#2988 Below Deck S12E14 Part 2: Don’t Speak

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2:04Ben Mandelker: Hi, everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode.

2:18Ronnie Karam: So now let's go to some messiness in the mess. Elaine is talking to Damo while she eats and she's like, you start to be bad people today on you he goes what did i do you start to talk to me like from you know like uh at the beach you know well we would and that wasn't nice of you what you said at the beach he goes well you know we were told we weren't allowed to talk to you oh my god five what is wrong with you you're the oldest crinkliest five-year-old i've ever seen in my life

2:46Ben Mandelker: geez yeah which is funny because when they show him at like age five he's like the oldest his crinkliest five-year-old you've ever seen too. He looked very old at five years old. Like he was, he looked like a little banker at five, didn't he? Like a banker on the playground. Did they show him? Yeah, they showed little baby pictures.

3:05Ronnie Karam: Oh, I missed it. Did he have highlights? Was that like a thing that started when he was young? Because I don't understand why someone in 2025 would do that.

3:14Ben Mandelker: He was wearing a Toni Collette t-shirt. It was very strange.

3:26Ronnie Karam: so um she's like wait wait wait wait everyone on this bottle said don't talk to shunning yeah not because we're really nasty because you don't do any work when we talk to you apparently

3:36Ben Mandelker: god this guy's so gross i like yeah he's so bad at this then he's like i think selene has a has a as a person has a fantastic mythical unicorn and her work ethic is just appalling really and it's just blatant disrespect towards the people that she's living with and working with and rainbow she's really feeling the strain and like she does bust her ass and i'm up on lights with her and it seems like she's carrying the weight of the world on her shoulders and selena's getting away with murder so then why are you going to agitate the situation by doing this thing that's a going to make solene feel really shitty and b is going to you know just cause chaos maybe in his mind he thought like wow i'm gonna i'm gonna break the news to her and she's gonna feel such immense shame that she's going to be like scared straight and be a better worker but we know that's

4:22Ronnie Karam: not how slain is going to operate no and i don't think he was doing it with that intention anyway because he's he's a guy and we know that he her next week so i think he's breaking her down to get into the fortress breaking it down a little bit to get in there it's old guy i think that he

4:37Ben Mandelker: doesn't like i i think he doesn't like being told what to do and in this case he was told not to talk to selene and there's almost like an implication that like his previous talking to selene is part of the problem. I don't think he likes that. And this was his little rebellion to be like, you don't get to tell him what to do.

4:51Ronnie Karam: I mean, in my estimation, he's just being mean. Like he was being mean to her on the beach. He wasn't being very nice to her. And then now he's kind of being mean again by making it sound like everybody hates her. I mean, he's just, he's just an asshole.

5:02Ben Mandelker: He also doesn't want to be a bad guy. He is really uncomfortable being a bad guy. This is what we've seen all season. And when she's like, why are you being a dick to me? He would rather throw everything into disarray and be like, oh, I'm not inherently a bad guy. I was ordered to do this it's not actually me and we know he doesn't like being a bad guy because when he hooked up with salim before and then kyle he told kyle like hey you're mad at me and kyle was like clearly mad at him then damon went and started undermining kyle because he doesn't want to be seen as the bad guy

5:31Ronnie Karam: yeah and also it could be revenge you know like slight revenge because fraser you know he got in trouble for the stuff last week with the chef so maybe he's getting back at fraser by getting fraser in trouble. I don't know. It's so stupid. There's like so many little layers, but I think ultimately he's just an asshole. I don't like him. Yeah.

5:52Ben Mandelker: So, um, and he does this by the way, Fraser's right there. Fraser is sitting at the next table and also crazy that Fraser doesn't say anything right then and there. Why doesn't Fraser like jump in and say, um, like just shut it down and say the reason why I, and so let me clarify this. The reason what I said was I don't want people distracting you because you're easily distracted and i'm and and that's the end of it if you don't want if you don't want this to happen then be more focused like instead he just goes

6:22Ronnie Karam: literally leaves the room he leaves yeah well that's the thing like fraser is fine with just setting everybody else off and letting everybody else take the blame it's shitty you know it's shitty he should have said something right then and there but no he's gonna watch her spiral and just because he knows what's gonna happen he's known to lane long enough to know if she's already being confrontational about it she's going to ask everybody until they until she finds out and it's just going to cause more discord so what is his real goal here you know i don't know he's trying to make he's more like i don't want to fire her so i'm just going to make her make an ass out of herself in front of everybody else so maybe they'll fire her or they'll get her fired so i don't have to look like the bad guy to the internet i don't know what he's doing but he's coming off as a great wuss in this situation yeah so he goes up to hugo and he's like i'm worried i'm going to

7:08Ben Mandelker: face an issue because Sir Lane's been told by your crew the rule that we had and that is immature and Hugo's like, oh god, what the fuck? He's like, and this is going against what our crew needs. I don't know if you told them not to say anything but surely they would know not to say anything to her, right? He's like, well, I said don't fucking distract her on the beach. I mean they're fucking having a hard enough time with Fraser, like, doesn't want us to have a hard enough time and Fraser doesn't want us distracting her so don't fucking talk. You would just think would be implied but i you know whatever so he's like sorry i didn't mean for that to explode in

7:41Ronnie Karam: your face but also going and saying fraser made me do that is weak yeah you're not going to get

7:48Ben Mandelker: people falling in line people are not going to take it seriously basically everybody in this

7:54Ronnie Karam: situation handled it badly all of them yeah so anthony is now making his boob cake and he's like oh i feel like michael lynch at all sculpting the marble what now i'm really because those are some uneven half-ass cakes. That is some half-ass work you're doing right there. He made these two little round things, cut them all unevenly, and what did he do? Just shove some whipped cream in there? Come on now.

8:18Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it was a little odd-looking. Yeah. So then Fraser's checking in on Solene, and she's like, guess what? The deckhand made some new words about me. Don't speak to Solene. And then Rainbow's like, well, that's your own fault. She goes, I don't understand. And Fraser goes, it's not. it's don't distract solane she goes no different so no no no it's like different rules eh don't speak to solane about when you work eh we are here to work we always work so don't speak to solane why does fraser not say the deck crew did not make that rule i made that rule how does he like

8:51Ronnie Karam: not correct her in that moment yeah and he's like well i cannot put solane on a leash and follow her around and make sure she's doing her work i mean she really is replaceable but i want to try and fix this for her and for our team and make sure we can make it to the end no you want to make it to the end but you're not willing to do the you're trying to make everybody else do your job and yes you can i think you're right ben that yes you can put her on a leash and follow her around i mean figuratively you could be there on the beach and tell her to stop talking to people the hell some

9:21Ben Mandelker: someone got into fraser's head that someone said fraser's not a good leader because when it gets tough he just tries to get people fired maybe it does well the captain like i mean the captain said

9:32Ronnie Karam: we see a clip of the captain telling him last season listen uh leadership is not firing people leadership is working with people and figuring whatever he says they showed the clip in this episode of him being like uh you can't just fire everybody dude like you actually gotta learn how to work with different personalities even if you don't like them this is a profession

9:54Ben Mandelker: that's right but like when Fraser says she's replaceable maybe you need to make her feel like she's replaceable or maybe you should replace her like it's I just feel like he's acting so he's acting in a very powerless way he's just not acting in a way where someone is going to grow from it he's he's just not this is why I say that he's just I don't know if he has

10:15Ronnie Karam: like a management skill set in him you know who's acting in a way that will make her grow and be better, and we've seen it. Barbara and Rainbow, both are very good with her. Barbara's especially good with her. I mean, Rainbow's technique could use some zhuzhing, special day, but yeah, definitely Barbara. But I think both of them have done a really good job with her. I mean, Selene's a lot better than when she started. And a lot of this we have to remember is Selene is some Love Island girl that they put on the cast for drama. She doesn't know how to do this. There's always one a season and she's at least learned.

10:52Ronnie Karam: I mean, she's doing a lot better. Even she's even getting compliments from rainbow occasionally. So Barbara had the right thing,

10:59Ben Mandelker: which is that she just yelled at her. She just would yell and be like, I'm not, I don't want to hear any of your excuses. I'm telling you what you did wrong. Go fix it. That's what Soleil needs. She needs like, she's like a kid who is like going to push the boundaries and push the parameters and going to see what they can get away with. and you just need to give like a like a like a swift rebuke and say no absolutely not and like barbara was great with that fly fan yeah yeah 100 get the flies water out yeah okay get the water gun you know and like squirt her when she gets on the counter look at my shiny shirt do you like my shiny shirts let me make the screen bigger since i'm sitting so far away from my computer screen today i have to actually make it keep shaking my shiny shirt it is shiny you like it

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12:07Ben Mandelker: on Amazon Live next time. Oh, I will.

12:10Ronnie Karam: Oh, I will. Okay, so now the guests are like, wow, Captain, great job parking the boat, huh? So Anthony is making his dinner and the guests are talking about getting penile implants if he can't get it up and Carrie's eating with them. So he's like, oh, wait, what do you do? You put a rod in there. They're like, no, it's a pump. You just pump it up if you ever need it. And he goes, I need the opposite. I need a deep pump. Unpump this, this more. This more. Med mooring, all right? Hey, you know what they call my penis around Australia? The med moor.

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13:12Ben Mandelker: Okay, enjoy. So Hugo meets with Demo and he's like, what happened with Celine? He's like, well, why are you asking me? I mean, you never said don't tell her. He's like, yeah, but I think it was understood. He said, well, when you come and tell me that I can't talk to her on the beach, it's like, okay, sweet. Like we're treating her like a child now. Yes, that is actually exactly right. If you've listened to this entire podcast, we've referred to Selene as a child the entire time. And guess what? You are one, too. You are, too.

13:40Ronnie Karam: Like, I have to tell you not to run and tattletale to your sister. I mean, seriously. My God. And he's like, well, I mean, there's just so much drama over this shit. I'm really over it. Well, sorry I put you in a bad place, but this is not my fault. It is. It's literally your fault.

13:59Ben Mandelker: No, it's literally all his fault. And this is his whole thing. He's like, I'm in a selfish part of my life right now, and I just have to think about me. It's like, no, you know what? You're in a stupid part of your life, and I think it's going to last for the next 70 years. So then if you go...

14:13Ronnie Karam: I love when people say that. Like, I'm just in a selfish part of my life. No, you're just selfish. You're selfish. You don't get to say, like, oh, it's just that fun, selfish chapter. You're just selfish.

14:25Ben Mandelker: You're selfish. twice. So then Shannon is the lady and she's like, well, here's a bidding farewell to your breasts, friends. Okay. May the special occasion give you the perfect lift. Cheers to the lady. Hurrah of your tatas. The last hurrah. Not the lady hurrah. I'm drunk. The last hurrah of your tatas. So they toast because the cake comes out and everything. I like Emily. She's like,

14:52Ronnie Karam: thank you guys so much and thank you for being here. and you know, this is the last time you see them, but they're going to be back bigger and better than ever.

15:05Ben Mandelker: Brazier's like, I thought that was just cute. Yeah, and we see the nipples are like strawberries or something, and then there's some sort of green stuff under. Brazier's like, what was that? I don't know much about breasts, but I don't think the Ariona's a green. So then everyone goes to bed.

15:23Ronnie Karam: Have you hung out with Kyle. Because I'll bet Kyles have turned green on occasion. He's so gross. So, Rainbow.

15:32Ben Mandelker: Oh, Kyle. Kyle, yeah. Oh, Kyle. This Kyle. Kyle's still here. Yeah. There's definitely some gangrene happening in his area.

15:40Ronnie Karam: You know he's like slept in the winter outside and come back in with green nipples and been like, the girl back. So, Rainbow is giving Celine some glasses and she's like, um, I'm gonna give you some glasses for the bar. That's work. your favorite thing it's like oh no i know i eat well good we are good it is 11.

16:02Ben Mandelker: hell yeah we're good tonight i like this yeah i don't have energy i don't have energy she's like yeah i like it maybe it's wigs okay we see tomorrow i don't know yeah they're getting

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18:07Ronnie Karam: So then Jess gets into bed with Barbara and Damo's working on deck. So Selene is cleaning the bar and talking to Damo. And she's like, oh, this is why I wanted to be the can to do baby nap like you. You know, you can take baby nap.

18:22Ben Mandelker: So you're okay? She's like, why am I not okay? If they're all shot in the cream of it, she's like, oh, sir, you want I stop to talk to you? You're allowed to, I can talk to you now? He's like, no, no, I don't want you to stop. Like, you can work and you can talk now. She's like, yes, of course, but these people who make this rule don't think and like, hey, they don't believe in me. So like, I'm going to investigate tomorrow and I will know and I'm going to speak to them because I know, I know it's a man who came up with this.

18:49Ronnie Karam: I have to find out what happened. I don't know who did it. Who said it? Oh, why you don't tell me in the first period? But I'm feeling maybe persecuted. I'm persecuted. Someone wants me to stay in shadow. No, someone wants to stay in shadow and persecute. I am persecuted. Well, you are being persecuted, but I think it's a good persecution.

19:15Ben Mandelker: I'm going to sign off on this persecution. I support it.

19:19Ronnie Karam: You think it's a deserved persecution is what you're saying?

19:22Ben Mandelker: Even a broken persecution is right twice a day. So let's take the judgment out of who we call persecutors. Yeah. You know, listen, you can't spell persecute without cute. Okay. It can be a nice thing. Or purse.

19:38Ronnie Karam: Who doesn't like purses? Who doesn't like cute purses? Where did that term even come from? Purse of cute. It's like your tongue. I love your purse of cute. Oh, so cute.

19:46Ben Mandelker: Purse of cute. Purse of cute. Purse of cute. um the next day yeah we're this is we're really this is you know out of control everyone's having breakfast and kyle is bragging he's like social house came crawling back she came in give me a good night kiss last night crawling back oh man uh like i just i really don't care so then we go

20:11Ronnie Karam: to carrie's trying to make what are you trying to make just jealous she's like whatever so then uh Yeah, all right, everybody. Remember yesterday? Medmore? God, that was rough. All right, but we're all still alive, I think. Jess, glad you got your head sewn back on. Let's get rid of these guests, all right? Let's get rid of them.

20:32Ben Mandelker: All right, Selene, if you'd like to do your weekly falling over for no good reason, that was your Janice. And then we cut to Selene bringing a bag off the boat and just falling off onto the dock. I mean, she really falls a lot.

20:48Ronnie Karam: um so rainbow's like are you okay she goes oh yes the blood is inside i'm fine she goes um you fucked up the suitcase oh saline dead but you don't care only the suitcase she goes yeah the first question i asked you is if you're good and you said you're good but you can't drop a fucking guest suitcase bro so then the guests leave they hug they say goodbye trip of a lifetime

21:12Ben Mandelker: and that's all that nice stuff. And then it's time to clean. And now it is time for our tip meeting. Well, what a lovely group of people. Really, really happy with this charter. We're just about at the end of our charter season and I want to keep that momentum going. It's school night, so don't have much time to turn the boat around, quite literally, Medmore style. I need everyone firing on all cylinders tomorrow, assuming you have a cylinder. Selene. Alrighty, today's tip is$21 ,000. which is actually pretty low, but we're not going to make fun of these people because, you know, the seaweed and not that kind of seaweed.

21:47Ben Mandelker: So that works out to being 16, 15 each. Thank you, everyone.

21:51Ronnie Karam: I wondered about this. So this wasn't much higher than the tip they all cried about. So is it because it was a shorter charter?

22:00Ben Mandelker: Maybe it was a little shorter. I don't know, but it seemed like it was full of more peril. What with all that med mooring. Medmore.

22:08Ronnie Karam: Meddeadmore. So Demo likes making money because it's more than he makes in Australia, that's for sure. When I grew up, money was tight. Like through high school and everything, I worked. So I've been responsible with my money because I've always had to earn it. I'm making money, laughing with friends, tattletaling on people, being out in cities, you know, getting shot down by multiple women and men, traveling the world, seeing amazing places, meeting amazing people. God, making bad choices in between. God, that dick piercing is still really a punch in the dick, quite literally. But, you know, it's good fun.

22:46Ronnie Karam: It's good fun having a great time. Having a great time.

22:49Ben Mandelker: So then Anthony puts out this lunch. This was steak and crab legs. I was like, and these fuckers, this demo had the nerve to complain last week. Like, this is it. Or two weeks ago, this is all we get for lunch when this guy's like giving them crab legs on the regular. And then you like one week you get like a sandwich the way every single other person in the world eats. Well, actually, that's not even true. Like it's not that. But I'm meaning that like sandwiches are not a crazy thing. Like it's not crazy that for lunch you're just stuck with a sandwich. It just is what happens sometimes. And sometimes.

23:23Ben Mandelker: And the fact that this guy's getting crab legs now and then we don't even see it. Maybe this happened. It wasn't shown. But the fact that he wasn't like, wow, thanks. You really went above and beyond for us. I was just like this guy's such a spoiled brat.

23:35Ronnie Karam: I know right after his monologue about how not spoiled he is. Yeah. So Damo, of course, doesn't even know how to eat a fucking crab leg, which Dome was shocked. So he has to ask. And he's like, so does anybody but Selene know how to crack these? And Selene is like, oh, Captain Carrie, by the way, did you make rules about me? You made rules. You made rules about me. And he's like, oh. Jess is like, oh, my God. He goes, what, did I make rules about you? Yes, I want to know, did you make a rule? What is this rule? Because I hear someone making rules about me, and I'm rule. And don't speak to Celine.

24:14Ronnie Karam: And everybody have to avoid me while we are working. So I just want to know. And he goes, you think, oh, I made that? And, of course, Fraser's still sitting there and not saying a thing.

24:24Ben Mandelker: Yeah. As usual.

24:25Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I do.

24:26Ben Mandelker: He's like, well, my understanding is Fraser asked the dick crew to stop harassing you so you can do your job. And Barbara's like, harassing? She's like, harassing. And Carrie's like, all right, because we want you to succeed in your job. So Carrie tells us, like, yeah, I don't think that she understands really how to talk to your superior, especially the captain. But, like, the fact is this. She's the one who needs to start doing her work. She's the one who needs to go, like, hey, look, you're distracting me. I've got to focus. Got to do a med ball with the vacuum right now. Get out of my face.

24:58Ben Mandelker: That's on her.

24:58Ronnie Karam: But just the language they're using, it's not that they're distracting her. She is the one talking to everybody. It's not like they're coming up and distracting her. So he goes, so you understand? No. It's about, and Fraser says, it's about distracting you. Oh, so someone told all the crew, you think Captain was upset about my question? And Barbara's like, yeah, you shouldn't have asked about this, babe. Come on. No.

25:24Ben Mandelker: Because at this point, Kerry has left the table. He's just like, whatever, fuck this. he's going off to his area and Jess is like you never should have asked also I'm going to be quite honest with you guys even if this carries many consequences for my actions I'm so sorry to do this while everyone is eating but like I don't want people coming to us and telling us that we can't speak to you you haven't been doing your job and to counter that they are trying to take things away that are distracting you and for one it is

25:54Ronnie Karam: I am talking I am talking. Let me talk. Consequences.

26:00Ben Mandelker: Either you didn't get distracted or they would have fired you. That would have been it. So instead of firing you, they wanted to be like, let's put you in an environment that we can make her work better. And that's what it was. But it's making our team look bad. And I'm not going to take that. Okay? Like, well, also your team looks bad because you're not honoring the spirit of the rules that were set out in front of you. So like that's on you as well. But yeah, I think Jess's point is like actually very strong.

26:30Ronnie Karam: Yeah. But also Jess is the one like dropping the shackles or whatever at the wrong time and not communicating right and stuff like that. But okay. Yeah. But in this, I'll give it to her. And so Lane's like, it is not exactly this. And Hugo says, so, so, it is exactly that. It is 100 % this. But Captain said the same thing. Well, he's at lunch. I mean, go into the office and talk to private. You're not supposed to be talking in front of everybody to the captain.

26:59Ben Mandelker: You keep doing these things and you don't realize that they are repercussions. And that's their whole season.

27:08Ronnie Karam: There are consequences to your actions.

27:14Ben Mandelker: And that's not okay. You need to take responsibility for that. I'm not going to take this. I don't know this. I don't know that BS. Don't come here with that. I'm so angry. I'm going to walk awkwardly behind you on the star and get out of here. Repercussions.

27:30Ronnie Karam: You speak to me? Yes, I'm speaking to you. Don't come here with that. I don't want that. What I told you is super clear. You are disrespectful. And the fact that you don't see it blows my mind. It blows it.

27:44Ben Mandelker: Okay, Selene, this is what we call in English a last resort. But it's nothing personal for many of us. And oh, God, I'm so, so I'm sorry for raising my voice. I shouldn't have. Too late. Too late. Oh, so many consequences to my actions of speaking loudly.

28:02Ronnie Karam: Go, go. Raise your voice again if you want. I don't care. I don't care. Raise it. Raise it up. You know what? I'm not even sorry, to be honest. So now Carrie is radioing Fraser up to the wheelhouse and Selene is upset and she's crying. It is more painful because it comes from chess. What did I do to deserve that? I work hard. I do my best. I try. I don't know. I would never ever let someone be alone like this. And she cries. And I actually did feel kind of bad for her because that's crazy. Like this, this like came to a big head. Of course, she's a dummy for bringing that up in front of everybody to the captain.

28:44Ronnie Karam: So she's hard to stick up for. I'll say that.

28:46Ben Mandelker: Yeah. It's not a nice feeling. so i felt bad for her because she's a human it's not not nice to know that like everyone's sort of like been told to avoid you but you also um are you're you're kind of dumb you're so then you're a i've been saying you're kind of so then carrie is like all right phrase i want to go over the uncomfortable conversation at the table there i was a bit thrown off it was a bit bold of her to just come out like that like let her know that was inappropriate i'm not a work mate i'm a captain a captain of adventure, someone who just survived a Medmore and St. Bath, okay? So what's happening on your end?

29:23Ben Mandelker: He's like, well, I've been struggling with Selene since day one. We brought her from a green stew to someone who's now more like a chartreuse stew. And I don't know, she can work a whole charter. She can go from charter one to charter seven. I'm like, no, she can't work a whole charter season. You just haven't fired her because I don't know why. But I'm very proud of her and it's been incredibly difficult and frustrating

29:47Ronnie Karam: and draining absolutely but i'm proud of her all right well what have we got to work this out all right what do we got to do selene does bring an energy to the boat that's appreciated but there is a line all right there's also a way to hold the line there's also a way to drop the line there's also a way to cross the line but if you cross the lines you could kill everybody on board What's it going to be, Frase?

30:15Ben Mandelker: Oh, no other line options. I don't know. I don't like them very much. Okay, I'll speak to her very quickly. So then Damo and Hugo were just talking about the situation. It doesn't really matter. And then Fraser goes and finds Solane. It's like, Solane, I just want to talk about earlier about what the captain and about how you talk to the captain and speaking to the captain. It's just, it's uncomfortable for him. and meetings are held individually or within departments, not over the lunch table, Celine.

30:43Ronnie Karam: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. But if I do a bad job, maybe someone can tell me before everybody doing a bad job, doing a bad job. Are you doing a bad job or doing a bad job?

30:53Ben Mandelker: Yes, but when I've come to you, I've been frustrated many, many times. Roll the clips. Montage. Roll the clips. Look, here come several scenes in a row of me being so frustrated and me telling you clearly what you have to do better. Here's the first clip.

31:09Ronnie Karam: Selene, would you like to have lunch with me? Okay. Okay, roll the second clip. That one wasn't very good. Selene, listen to Rainbow More. I'm going to go eat lunch. All right. Roll the most incriminating one. Selene.

31:28Ben Mandelker: Just Fraser vacuuming. Sorry, Selene, I can't hear you.

31:34Ronnie Karam: I know you're working when you're working, But when you're not working, other people are still working. Do you understand? And that's frustrating for the team. It's frustrating to me. I just want you in the last trip to give it your all. Enjoy it. Selene, we love you. Everyone here loves you. Most of them actually physically multiple times. Oh, stop saying to people I'm doing a bad job.

31:59Ben Mandelker: I'm not saying you're doing a bad job. I'm just saying you're bad at your job.

32:03Ronnie Karam: No, because if I was doing a bad job, I left earlier. Because all of the tech teams think, sorry, bad job. So why am I here? Why? Why? Why am I here if I do a bad job?

32:15Ben Mandelker: My biggest mistake in the past was being reactive. Was letting people trigger me. And the easier way out was firing people. I really want to finish the season with the same team I set out with. For no good reason, except for this. I just decided I want that. So she has this last chance to get her shit together. and I don't want to fire her because we might not have an option.

32:39Ronnie Karam: You're here because you have made a huge progression. Also, you're extremely entertaining in a group of mostly boring people, let's face it, and the producers would not let us fire you. So you are a very enjoyable person to work with, and this tactic didn't work, did it? And she's like, Oh, finish? Are you finish? Are you finish? like yeah i think you might need to let her calm down a bit because at this point with how you've handled this yes it did become the entire boat turning on selene and coming at selene instead of you just nipping this in the bud so yeah your tactic didn't work sorry yeah it did not did not

33:18Ben Mandelker: work yeah well that was it um thanks everyone for being here that's fun yeah fun times so i guess we've got two episodes left of this craziness yep and then we go right back to the mediterranean and Medville.

33:32Ronnie Karam: More Med. More Med. Medville. Alright everybody, we will talk to you next time. Bye! Bye!

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