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3:11Ben Mandelker: Hello and welcome to Watch What Crap Ends, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. Now, this is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap. Now we go to a place called Fleur-de-Lis, because of course there's a place called Fleur-de-Lis, a.k.a. Gretchen's favorite thing to put on her wall.

3:32Ronnie Karam: There's not a stitch of Fleur-de-Lis in this place, by the way. Not a stitch. This place is so tacky. And they walk in, and Emily picks up what looks like something like a booger splatted against a wall. and she goes, oh, this is nice. Like, oh, God. There's no tackier show on Bravo. There really is. Like, literally every place they go is so tacky on this show.

3:57Ben Mandelker: And having this on the same night as Miami, where they just keep on going to, like, glamorous locales, like, one after the next, and you have this show, it's just, it's really hard. And, like, the good news is that you leave this show and go to the world of Miami, but the bad news is that I watch the screeners in reverse order. I watch Miami first. So to go from the luxe, colorful world of Miami to now flirt-ily of, like, Laguna Beach, I'm like, ugh, this is really hard. So Emily walks in, and then Shannon comes in, and then they, like, pretend to hide from each other. They're, like, looking at each other through, like, a bookcase.

4:27Ben Mandelker: Like, isn't this funny? It's a bookcase, but we can see each other, but we're acting like we can't see each other. God, I love having good girlfriends. Not toxic over here. So Gina's like, oh, my God, like, what are we, like, shopping for? I mean, I can, like, always shop, okay? and emily's like i don't know fun stuff let's get fun stuff that's why we're at fleur-de-lis home of fun stuff wacky wacky times oh well i think i found a pillow for emily look at this pillow it says it says not tonight i guess i'll give i guess i'll give this to earl um so that way he can tell me if tonight's the night he's gonna be trying vegetables

5:11Ronnie Karam: Shopkeep Do you have one of these pillows that says None of these men will be intimate with me

5:23Ben Mandelker: Do you have a pillow that on the front side says David and then the back side says David Okay no that's fine

5:32Ronnie Karam: What does the other side say The other side says tonight The sides never gonna see the Sun though. It's always gonna say not tonight

5:42Ben Mandelker: Well, we're so wacky

5:49Ronnie Karam: Family's like something and it's not tonight pillow on Subway sandwich hilarious Oh

5:58Ben Mandelker: By the way, um, if not tonight is supposed to reference me being an awful person guess what? that's tonight because guess what i have to tell you because it's on my mind but jen called me so we see jen a flashback of jen uh calling emily and and saying that katie said that the polygraph

6:17Ronnie Karam: people were paid actors you know what jen i get you not if you don't want to be dragged into katie's whatever that's fine but going from your best friend on the show to immediately turning around and calling everyone on the cast me like well here's what katie said and katie and katie's and Katie's accusing you guys of na-na-na. You're coming across as a real dick, Jen. And I'm actually surprised because I like Jen. Well, if you don't want to be in the middle of it, then don't be in the middle of it. Yeah, and stop calling everybody and putting yourself in the middle of it and staying in the middle of it, you ding-dong.

6:49Ronnie Karam: Middle, middle Mary. You're a bad friend. That's what you are. I thought you were a better friend than this.

6:52Ben Mandelker: You're choosing Gretchen over Katie. Hey, Jen, did you go to Middlebury College? Because as far as I can tell, you're in the middle and you kind of look like a Barry. so there um so emily is like she thinks it was like a setup like i planned all this that i had time on my hands i mean you literally put robes up like you put like blind like you put curtains up and set up two different polygraph rooms you and i also set up and through a whole person new year's

7:21Ronnie Karam: party you had the time you definitely i'm sorry i'm sorry you had to put your supreme course

7:27Ben Mandelker: court case to the side that you were trying but yeah i think you had the time here oh also

7:32Ronnie Karam: in the interview that Matt did with Stu, he said, oh, please, Emily's like a mall cop lawyer.

7:42Ben Mandelker: Mall cop lawyers need love representation to Innocence Project. So, and so Gina's like, I mean, well, you know who would think that is like somebody who sets people up. Okay, I don't think Katie was setting people up. I don't think Katie's Machiavellian like that. So Emily's like, Well, by the way, the person who set up Katie was you, Gina, last year when you told Katie to bring up the Heather stuff on camera. And then you totally backed off of it and was like, well, you got to confront Heather. Otherwise, I have to. So you're the setter upper.

8:16Ronnie Karam: You also set her up by calling Kiki Monique to come all the way to Mozambique so you could have this discussion about something that had nothing to fucking do with you. And then helped Emily with her stupid lie detector test party. Give me a fucking break with the setup. You know who else says that they were set up? People who were set up. You dummy.

8:35Ben Mandelker: Yeah, you dummy. And by the way, next time, why don't you go to Kiki Monique? Why'd you drag her all the way down to Mozambique? You should go up to Hollywood. Jeez. Go to 13. Like a real lady would. So then we go to more flashbacks. Okay, so we're back to the present. Emily's like, it wasn't a setup. Okay, just tell the fucking truth and you pass. um but like you guys all failed your polygraph tests in some way it's a question unfortunately literally and she lied so there you go so then she lied in her in her in her in her life test

9:12Ronnie Karam: not her polygraph so emily gets a ding and she's like oh hi luke and he's like mama let me take to go on a walk and she's like that's not home when he gets back you can ask him he says no i'm doing it now. It's like, no, Luke. No, Luke. Oh my God. He just hung up on me. I can't believe he's doing this. He's trying to take the dog on a walk. What does this mean about Luke? He refuses to listen to dogs. My son is taking the dog on a walk. Do you know how difficult this is? I can't with Kate. I came out with Emily. Just can't. I'm sorry.

9:43Ben Mandelker: He refuses to go to school. And I'm like, I'm sorry. Like, I don't know what to do. I'm like, what am I supposed to do?

9:50Ronnie Karam: Just stay home all day and not go to Florida Lee?

9:54Ben Mandelker: Just stop answering the phone if you know it's your kids get a call every two seconds. Just stop stop I know you probably should answer the phone, but just don't It's an emergency tell the kid how to leave a voicemail so Emily's like Luke is very attached to me And if I leave the house he gets so upset and then I feel like I should just leave and go be with him And then I think is that the best thing for him for me to just never do anything else ever You wonder why he talks like a baby. Maybe you should stop babying him. Okay, drop him off Make him go to school. Bye Make him go to school. See you later, sucker.

10:26Ben Mandelker: Seriously.

10:27Ronnie Karam: Or if he's not, hire a really stern tutor or something to be there at the house and make him do his work anyway. I mean, he's taking off. Listen, I used to do it all the time. I would be like, I'm sick, mommy. I didn't want to be with you. I did it all the time. So maybe that's me projecting a little bit of my stuff onto this. But I'm like, come on, stop crying because your son would rather not. You know who else would rather not go to school to hang out at home all day? Every kid. Everyone. Every kid.

11:00Ben Mandelker: Just grab him. Put him in the car. Yeah. Drop him. Drop him.

11:06Ronnie Karam: Kick him into the school.

11:10Ben Mandelker: I understand. Parenting is complicated. And especially if he is on the spectrum, there's like added, you know, there's added things to that. But also it sounds like your baby and your kid. And then you're like, he talks like a baby. Why is very attached to me? Why does that happen? And it's like, because from everything you've told us, it sounds like you're babying him. So, you know.

11:29Ronnie Karam: Yeah, you know, we've gotten some messages from people with autistic children or children on the spectrum and stuff like that. I'm not even commenting on that. I have no idea medically what's going on with the kid. Emily doesn't know yet either. You know, like her, she doesn't know yet. So that's all still up in the air. So I'm not like making fun of that or saying, here's how to deal with an autistic child or anything like that. I'm solely commenting on Emily's behavior. To me, Emily's behavior is just so overdramatic. She's always crying about something. She's always turning something into some huge deal for TV.

12:06Ronnie Karam: And from what we've just seen, the kid wants to take the dog for a walk. Like, I can't. I can't with you, Emily. Like, I'm not going to sit here and cry in a store over your kid wanting to take the dog for a walk. Do you know how many parents are begging their kids to take the dog for a walk?

12:20Ben Mandelker: yeah um either way it sounds like a difficult situation so emily is like i just don't know how to help him i'm so lost and she's like i know like we are shane right now so i guess shane had to go pick up annabelle um and he couldn't take luke because luke refused to go along as well so uh emily and then he then he starts to facetime again and she's like luke can you please just chill for a minute till dad gets home okay i don't know what the fuck i'm going to listen you say luke if you fucking call me one more time i am going to put on some kenny g very loudly and that's all you're going to hear at home for the next seven days until you will go to school kenny g the old the old kenny g be careful be careful what you do because that kid could

13:07Ronnie Karam: grow out his hair start perming it and like learning to play the electric flute or whatever for the fuck that guy played. Would it be so bad?

13:14Ben Mandelker: So wrong? So wrong with that? Not a terrible fate for the kid.

13:19Ronnie Karam: So Emily is talking about how hard it is on her marriage because she wants to parent one way and Shane wants to parent another way and they're going to get divorced over it and, you know, all of their energy is spent on Luke and Luke's need and they're basically just roommates living on this house navigating these kids. And do you know what we call that? Some of us call that parenting, but she's like there's no joy in this there is no joy on this he won't eat a sweet potato

13:50Ben Mandelker: here's what i don't here's what i did not love about this moment was when she said like we're getting to a point where we're going to end up divorced because i don't know how to parent luke he doesn't know how to parent luke and then we fight each other if this kid sees this and if they do divorce it's going to be met that's not going to be good because the whole thing is that right like in divorce you don't want the kids to feel like it's their fault and she's literally on tv saying like yeah we're gonna divorce because we don't know how to deal with this kid this kid i wanted the kid this way he wants to get this way and we don't know what to do with luke so we're gonna get divorced i mean like this is not good to have on on the permanent record i would

14:26Ronnie Karam: have yeah i agree with you i think that that's a good point and that's my problem with emily it's the way she's navigating this whole thing with her kid whatever's going on with her kid how emily is handling it on TV is really, really bad for this kid's future. And, you know, you can make the argument for a lot of other housewives and how they've dealt with kid issues and stuff on this show. And I mean, I guess you could take that case by case, but in this case, it's Emily and she sucks at it. It's, it's really hard. Yeah.

14:51Ben Mandelker: I mean, I, I actually respect the transparency of it all. Like I, like she is struggling with her kids and I do want authentic things on this show. And I think that is an authentic, true pressure that she's feeling. And I think it is hard. Like all Snarka said, I think she's in a very hard situation because for whatever led to this point in their relationship with their child, that's just where they are now. And they're trying to deal with it. And so I enjoy the transparency of it all and getting a peek into her personal struggles of what she's dealing with versus like, oh, I've got a sandwich in my purse.

15:27Ben Mandelker: but that being said like it's it's one of those tough things where it's like i want authenticity but then you cringe that um like about but what damage she might be doing in the long run to her

15:38Ronnie Karam: to her child if any so then we go over to katie and matt and oh by the way the ladies are crying in the store shannon's like honey honey come here can we just get a pillow that says go to school let's get that pillow we can go to katie and matt's house by the way and by the way put the

15:56Ben Mandelker: dog, put the dog in the car. And next time Luke wants to walk the dog, you just trickling. He goes into the car like, aha, guess what? Now you're going to help me pick up Annabelle. Congratulations, Luke. You just use the tools, use the tools that you have. Use that dog to your advantage. I guess I just didn't have that many options as a kid.

16:13Ronnie Karam: It was like, Ronnie, if you're going to stay home, I have to leave. I'm not leaving you alone. We're getting your sister from school. I didn't get to be like, no, I don't want to. And then do whatever I wanted. I got a fly swatter to the head and shoved it in the back of the car. Okay. Like there was no option.

16:26Ben Mandelker: There was no option.

16:27Ronnie Karam: Get this. Like, you know, I don't get it.

16:30Ben Mandelker: It's not like the, please, please. Will you get in the car? It was never, there was, there was not a single please ever. There was no, it was get in the car. You know, I mean, I was a good kid. So usually they didn't have to say things like my parents didn't have to say things, but like, you know, there was no option. It's just like your parents told you what to do and you did it.

16:48Ronnie Karam: And yeah, I mean, I didn't, but there were wars over it. It was never just like, So at Katie's house, she is sitting with Matt, and they're talking about what a clusterfuck this all is. And I kind of feel for Matt because he's just like, oh, hi, my wife's home. And she's like, here's what's going on with the ladies. And you just see him, like, dying inside. He's like, oh, Jesus. So he's like, what is happening with Jen and Ryan pretending like they didn't hear it? You know, like, do you know how many three-way calls I've been on with Ryan and Slade talking about what they told us at dinner? I mean, look at the amount of calls.

17:20Ronnie Karam: So he shows his phone and he shows multiple calls from my spicy Asian with a little chili pepper thing on it. And apparently Katie entered her name as my spicy Asian on his phone. She said on X Twitter. And he's and then we see some we see a call from Slade. Hold on. Let me see.

17:48Ben Mandelker: I screenshotted it so I could someone online screenshotted also that like also that like Slade's texts were like in case people are wondering about the authenticity of what Matt was saying. It was like clearly clearly Slade had sent Matt Tamara's IG story saying that she'd quit the show. So like definitely Slade was talking about Tamara.

18:09Ronnie Karam: in case there was any like notes calls thing so slade called matt matt calls slade and then matt calls him back and then talks to katie a couple of times and then calls slade another couple of times and then slade there's a missed call from slade so i don't know what the damning thing is except that the guys have been talking you know about like it was enough that like enough

18:31Ben Mandelker: that like people needed to get on the phone and have a and have discussions like in a in a in a in a fury. And, uh, like that does not seem like someone would be like, whatever, this is, this is stupid. This is, this is like, no big deal. Like, I think you have those big conversations. If there's like a coverup, if it's like, what? No, like, like Gretchen never said that. And it's like, Oh, okay. Like whatever. It was just stupid. Tamara. She's just trying to stir up shit. But the fact that there's all this conversation to me, this is a smoke and fire situation.

19:01Ronnie Karam: And Matt's like, well, 43 minutes on March 10th. I mean, just shooting the shit with Slade? Really? Like, who wants it

19:08Ben Mandelker: with Slade for 43 minutes?

19:08Ronnie Karam: How long can I talk about his crooked penis

19:10Ben Mandelker: for?

19:10Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And he says, you don't think he's trying to manipulate this? I mean, 911, he puts on the phone. He essentially said Gretchen is going to deny it, and Katie needs to hold the line and stay with Gretchen. And I said, I got a hold of Katie, I told her what you told me, and she'll stay with Gretchen. Okay? So that he originally agreed to go on the plan. We're going on this plan. So Katie's like, yeah, Slade alerted Matt and Ryan about this whole naked wasted situation while we were in New Orleans. And I think he was trying to cover his tracks. And he thought by telling Ryan and Matt, he would control Jen and I.

19:42Ronnie Karam: So God shows my brain scrambled. So Matt's like, yeah. And whenever I've hung out with Slade, he's it's always him telling us how we started Housewives. And someone sent me a clip where he talks about, oh, if Joe's not on, then I'm not on. And then we see a flashback from the reunion in 2016 with Andy going, Slade, can you understand why some people think you're a media whore? And he's like, no, I mean, you should remember that after the second season, I made the decision not to continue on The Housewives. I made that decision. He's like, uh, well, Joe wasn't a housewife anymore, so there was no place for you on the show.

20:19And Slade's like, correct.

20:22Ben Mandelker: I feel such a beef bag. i think slate i guess is slade trying to imply that it was like he told joe not to go back or something like that like i don't know like he is so stupid like no it's awful implying that it was

20:35Ronnie Karam: his like he was the main cast member and it was his decision not to come back on the show he's so ridiculous and we know this is true because when we met slade 10 years ago this is exactly what he was telling us as well oh i created the housewives and you know this was all my idea and he even told me you know i mean if it wasn't for me you guys wouldn't even have a job really what would you be

20:56Ben Mandelker: talking about i mean i started this whole thing like oh okay okay yeah slade slade did sure it's

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22:38Ben Mandelker: Results based on a January 2026 analysis of 14 ,203 Noom GLP-1 RX program members who logged weight over a 40-week period. Higher app engagement was associated with greater weight loss at 16 weeks. Matt's saying, you know, every time we've ever been anywhere near Slade and Gretchen, it's the same stories over and over and over and over again. And Katie's like, yeah, let's make you hate the person that we hate. Yeah, they're out to bury Tamara. Right. And then Jen just left you out to dry. Yes. and that's honestly the most hurtful part of all this is my dearest friend is like, I didn't hear it and neither did Ryan.

23:13Ben Mandelker: And Matt's like, they were there. She's like, I just miss Jen. I know it's stupid. Jen, that is. She's very stupid. I know she's stupid, but I just do. I do. It feels stupid missing someone so stupid, but call me a stupid person. I miss her. I miss her.

23:28Ronnie Karam: And she's like, I just don't know. I didn't do anything to Jen. Why would she do this to me? I just can't figure it out. Because you keep trying to drag her into drama and she doesn't want the drama. She doesn't want your drama. You know, Katie, ultimately, it was we've said it a million times. Ultimately, this is on you for going and telling a blogger in the first place or a podcaster. I don't know why you keep calling her.

23:47Ben Mandelker: Well, also, there is a fable. There is a moral to the story. I mean, it is boy who cried wolf, which is that, like, again, there's a few times earlier this season where Katie was caught in stupid lies that were inconsequential. But enough so that now when there's something big like this that happens, she just doesn't have credibility. And that's that's kind of on her. Again, I'm team Katie, but like she's just saying like I lied, but I only lied because they told me to lie.

24:12Ronnie Karam: But now I'm not lying. But I but I am kind of lying because I didn't tell Kiki Minnick the other thing. There's too many things of like I'm lying, but I'm not lying. But I am lying. But I'm but I wasn't lying. But I but I'm lying now. But I'm not lying now.

24:24Ben Mandelker: But I was like, yeah, it's like, oh, well, I was recording you, Shan, but I only showed this. But I didn't say it. But yes, I did do this. Or it's like it's too much.

24:32Ronnie Karam: So then we go to Jen and her sons are coming to Beach Day, which is I still find it so funny that she named her son Dawson. I don't know why. I just think it's so funny that Jen's like, I really love that guy. He was just so nice to Felicity.

24:49Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I she probably did name him Dawson from that show. Of course. Yeah.

24:56Ronnie Karam: Is Dawson a name that people name people other than that? I don't think I've ever known another Dawson.

25:04Ben Mandelker: I'm thinking if I know any Dawson's. I don't know any Dawson's, but, you know. To be fair, this is also the same show that gives us Chanel, who's Heather's friend, spelled S-H-A-N-E-L. I'm shocked that Heather is friends with someone who misspelled Chanel. This is Chanel. She's the Canal Street version of Chanel, because she's spelled with an S. I thought she'd get along with Gina.

25:28Ben Mandelker: Pretty much. So they're all gathering. And guess who Tamara has brought? She's brought Joe. So Joe is back again. Tamara's really trying to do the weaponized Joe. And it's not totally working. It's sort of working. Not really, though. Not to the effect that she wants.

25:44Ronnie Karam: Yeah, especially because the first time Gretchen saw Joe, she went up and gave her a hug and told her hi. So it's like it doesn't seem to be working, but it's working better today because Gretchen sees Joe. She's like, why would you do that again? And then just kind of gives her the cold shoulder. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, and Tamar's like,

26:03Ben Mandelker: whatever, whoever my friends are, I'm a friend. I'm not here to please Gretchen Rossi. So, um, they're all gathering and, um, they all are going to go play some, uh, some volleyball. Yeah. Jen's like, my sons are here.

26:16Ronnie Karam: They're going to show it. They're going to show us how to play volleyball. Okay. Well, while they're teaching us volleyball, how about we teach them and not to sign hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loans for each other because their parents are nincompoops. Okay. What about that? That's a good, let's share some knowledge. those poor kids i was like run dawson run away um so then shannon's like well i am just gonna grab

26:38Ben Mandelker: a piece of cheese instead of playing sports okay okay okay i'll play i'll play so it's volleyball and it's fun times and they're all they're all doing it they're all talking about like i'm sporty spice i'm posh spice i am posh spice okay how hilarious i'm just your best friend heather

26:57Ronnie Karam: to broke posh spice so emily's that was emily's big joke in here i forgot she's like

27:03Ben Mandelker: disheveled spice what is it disheveled spice shannon is disheveled spice

27:14Ronnie Karam: please get emily off this show i don't know how many times i need to beg you

27:18Ben Mandelker: fucking people get her off my get her off this show it's done i can't so so then um they all sit down and then jen has provided them all gifts and they all open up their boxes and it's like supermarket croissants like small the small size ones too mini croissants and she goes well i'm on a budget and gretchen just goes what's the point of this because they don't even know what to do with a croissant i love that you're responsible i love it so heather is like okay everyone something really cool happened i went to a bakery and had a full-size croissant much better than this one so i just want to say i've been out in the world thank you everyone thank you so much

28:08Ronnie Karam: thank you well i did order it and stare at it and then i left it alone um so that was fun but That's a huge... Go ahead, Ben.

28:17Ben Mandelker: I was going to say, I loved this story that Heather had to say because it had a twist that somehow... Well, I'll explain. Everyone, Katarina, Katarina got into so many schools. She got into Emerson. She got into Chapman. She got into UT Austin. But what her dream school, the school that was so hard for her to get into, was USC. Shannon, did you hear that? USC. she really wanted to get into usc and she's oh usc oh well i have no pole it's a very exclusive school it's very very difficult to get into so good luck getting it well she got into yell she's going to yell instead i love that because it was like puffing up shannon to be like your school is the amazing school the grail school that we all want to get our children into and then shannon gets all excited and is like oh yes usc and heather's like i'm gonna one-up you now yell sorry haha

29:13Ronnie Karam: well actually what kind of cracked me up is that Shannon's attitude when she said that cracked me up because she goes you know what her dream school is USC and Shannon goes I have no pull like don't even fucking ask me I'm not going to the bat for your fucking daughter do bro okay I still have your monologue running through my head every single night before I go to sleep if you ever come for me or my family she's like i've got no pole please don't ask me and she's like don't need it she's going somewhere better yeah oh she's not gonna be going to university of spoiled children that's still a good one bitch shut up really dodge you're also running in my head every night before i go to

29:55Ben Mandelker: see god i hate that woman it's also by the way it's such a strange like selection of colleges to choose from like chapman yale ut austin it's no shade to any of the schools but just it's sort of like all over the map in terms of like different types of schools and different tiers of schools i just i don't think that there was ever any serious consideration about those other schools i think it was always going to be yale and i think heather wanted to like seem like a little humble and i just i just love the rope-a-dope on shannon on this one because it's like i just feel like she she lifted shannon up into thinking like her school was like the one it was the reach it was so hard it was out of place and then just like oh no but she got into a much, much, much harder school.

30:40Ben Mandelker: So yeah, I'm living your school behind in the dust.

30:42Ronnie Karam: Am I surprised that Kat got into Yale? Absolutely not. Kat is just one of those kids who are all better than Shannon's kids. And am I sad that she's going across the country? Of course. Am I glad that she's going to be away from the influence of Shannon? Of course. But you know, I'm thrilled for her. And I'm thrilled that Shannon got to go to her lesser school all those years ago.

31:07Ben Mandelker: And I'm so happy for the kids that do get to go to USC, whether through their own merits or through the Felicity Huffman style of getting into USC. I'm happy for them. But my kid's going to yell.

31:19Ronnie Karam: Well, I'm going to say I got some good news, too. Sophia's got a French boyfriend. I think he ate somebody. It was in the lyrics of the song she wrote.

31:30Ben Mandelker: Oh, and did he go to Yale? Well, I'm sorry. I'm still in my yell moment here. And you're trying to one up it with a boyfriend. And my daughter got into a world class institution, but that's okay.

31:41Ronnie Karam: I'm sorry. I said Yale, not yell. Okay.

31:46Ben Mandelker: Well, if I could tail end on that, Sophie met a guy and she really started to fall for him. And last night he ended it and she was in tears. So she flew. I'm like, why are you crying over Sophie's like fling? She's sitting here crying. And she's like, so she flew in for the weekend and she's going to come here pretty soon. So I'm excited for you to see her. Really, really excited for you to see her because I think, as we all know, nothing makes us feel better than seeing the youth of America be heartbroken.

32:19Ronnie Karam: Oh, I'm so glad to put a tail end button on this flood of good news about our children. Sophie got dumped. So that's been really rough on both of us.

32:30Ben Mandelker: Oh, sort of the way USC got dumped by Katarina when she chose Yale, a better option. Right, Chaddon? This was so good.

32:38Ronnie Karam: She's like, so Sophie just got dumped. And Heather goes, oh, this is a good news Friday. And they're like, Heather, Jesus. And she goes, no, I mean, it's good news that she's coming to visit her mom. That's what I meant. Everything Heather says today, you're like, what the fuck is going on with Heather?

32:55Ben Mandelker: Well, this is good news. This is good news. Two broken hearts come together and become one full heart. That's great news. Or they're just two broken hearts all in just two heart pieces on the floor. Either way, my daughter's going to Yale.

33:13Ronnie Karam: I'm so happy to hear someone from an inferior school was heartbroken. Katerina will know that she made the right decision. She'll know.

33:21Ben Mandelker: Well, I'm sure Sophie has many more beautiful options from the men that she met when she was going to Princeton, for instance. No, she went to, I think, she went to a school in Texas. Oh, sorry. I guess it's my daughter who's going to an Ivy League school. Not yours. Apologies.

33:42Ronnie Karam: I'm sorry. I was thinking of Ivy League, Sophie's more bowling league. Okay, let's get to that. Was he a bowler? Was this guy a bowler?

33:53Ben Mandelker: Oh, sorry, Shannon. Ivy League is not a nursing school league where they teach you how to put in IVs. Sorry. Sorry. I know that some of your other children here are on that path.

34:07Ronnie Karam: So Tamara's like, oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, I guess that breakup's good news, huh? She goes, good news Friday. Say something good. Okay. Shannon's miserable as usual. So who else has something else? And Emily's like, oh, Shane's dad came home from the hospital. So that was good. We pulled the lie detector test on him. Turns out he was lying about being sick in the first place. Motherfucker. I made him eat eight figs.

34:32Ben Mandelker: Well, he had a severe liver infection, but he's doing well and he's coming home today.

34:37Ronnie Karam: And then I gathered the whole family and did a strip tease for him. I will never forget Emily's first season of like Shane doesn't find me sexually attractive. So I'm going to do a strip tease school for his father in Las Vegas. for the fuck that thing was.

34:53Ben Mandelker: Well, no, because she was going to do a striptease for Shane, but then Shane backed out, but his parents went instead.

34:57Ronnie Karam: So she did it for her father-in-law and her mother-in-law?

35:01Ben Mandelker: Oh, God. She should have been gone after that. Let's be honest. Whatever. So Emily's like, I have not seen Shane cry many times in our 16-year relationship, but as dad being ill and dealing with Luke and Luke's needs, it was just way too much at one time for us. So for his dad to come home, it makes me happy. It's a win. You know what would be a really good news Friday? The new cast for season 19 of this show, season 20 of this show, and Emily's not in it. That's good news Friday.

35:30Ronnie Karam: Yeah, replace her with Perry. That's what I say. So Jean was like, okay, I got good news. Sienna Rose did a character counts award this morning for being the kindest little girl in a class. So that was nice. She showed up and gave everybody aspirin and a Mediterranean cookpies.

35:49Ben Mandelker: we're really having diminishing returns on this good news Friday. I'm not, I'm not going to lie. Like I guess coming home from the hospital, that's good news. But I think I just, I just want, we need to work on this good news. I'm just like your daughter getting kind of little girl in her class. That's nice, I guess. But do you, do you personally have good news in your life? Like not your daughter's life. So Joe's like, well, my husband and I, Taryn have officially decided to try and have a baby. 44 and trying. Here we go. Oh, great. So I guess in about 20 years or so or 18 years, that baby will be applying and not getting into Yale.

36:29Ben Mandelker: I'm so happy for you.

36:32Ronnie Karam: I'm so excited for you to ask Shannon for contacts to that inferior US whatever.

36:39Ben Mandelker: University of spoiled and also stupid children, right, Shannon? Right? Elbow nudge.

36:44Ronnie Karam: um hi everybody i'm brit i'm here too so um my good news is going to be really good news every day not just friday because matt's here and i could not imagine my life without matt or skits in my life or even my life and it was just a really scary moment because he almost let me in on the back end but he is still here he's still here and chan's like oh it is just so amazing the relationship that you two have wow wow someone can stand gina that is just incredible Do you take any kind of drugs or do you just, do you use earplugs? What do you, how do you do it?

37:22Ben Mandelker: How do you do it? You know, I always told David, you know, even though we are partying, I would love to have a good relationship with whoever is new in your life. So next time you're walking on the beach with some slut, invite her up. I would love to look at her slutty fakes and her slutty outfit and see, this is who you left me for?

37:38Ronnie Karam: And then I'd serve her some quinoa. Well, guys, I've got good news too. Thank you so much for giving me the time, by the way. And thank you so much for everybody not eating your croissants in front of me and waiting until you get home. But, you know, Tamara and I sat down and we had a conversation. And this woman who has been nothing but vile to me now for two years, I've forgiven while not forgiving Katie, who's done nothing to me. So can I get a round of applause? That would be great. Thank you, guys. Thank you so much.

38:08Ben Mandelker: She's also wearing her own tracks. It's all good, everyone. Her own tracks. Oh, well, now she's wearing a croissant. Okay, well, you know, baby steps.

38:16Ronnie Karam: Oh, yeah, this hair is just, it's hanging off me, girl. Do you have any extras, Tamara? I'll take it. Isn't that hilarious? Isn't this so fun? Well, the question is, what do we do? And points to Tamara and Gretchen. What do we do with you two? And Gretchen's like, well, I keep asking the girls, should Tamara and I just talk? Or, like, do you think we need a meditator? Like, what do we need to do?

38:38Ben Mandelker: How do I need a meditator? I'm just confused because I asked you Do you ever say that you had to go to the hospital And you said yes Um no I don't remember saying that And if I did then I misspoke

38:48Ronnie Karam: Oh you misspoke when you said But I did have to go to the hospital Because I just felt so sick Hmm But like you literally said

38:59Ben Mandelker: Yeah I mean Oh I misspoke

39:03Ronnie Karam: While we're excoriating liars Can we kick her out

39:06Ben Mandelker: Oh I just misspoke I just misspoke. Which, by the way, also, to be fair, lesson to Katie, next time, just say you misspoke. It's the oldest trick in the book. Oh, well, I misspoke. Just do it as like fake accountability. You're technically taking accountability, but you're actually not about it.

39:24Ronnie Karam: I didn't leave the show. I'm just spending some time with my family. But I'll be back. So, Gretchen's, so Tamara's like, yeah, you know, what the hell? You said yes. Okay, she didn't misspoke, misspeak, whatever you said. It's English. It's stupid. Okay, I don't even know. You told me in New Orleans you went to the hospital. So which one is it? And Gretchen's like, no, that's not what happened. I did not go to the hospital. I remember saying that I was so sick that night that I probably should have gone to the hospital, but that was the extent of it. And then we see a flashback for, you know, lying.

39:58Ronnie Karam: And so then Tamara is like, well, Katie said, Slade and Matt called Matt. Wait, Katie said, Slade called Matt and say, we can't talk about this. What about that? I'm going to start nodding my head very quickly. What about that? What about it?

40:15Ben Mandelker: And, um, uh, that's not true. Like, that's not what happened. Okay, you can call Slade. And Tamra's like, so she's lying about that too? No, well, she's been lying about a lot of things, Tamra. And, like, it's literally crazy that you think that.

40:30Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So, you're, you're lying. Like a liar. so then um they go is this where they go talk by themselves yeah so they go to talk alone and um everybody's watching them and jen's like oh my god she looks so fiery why does she bring joe is she really good friends with joe i don't really get it and gina's like well but that's not the spirit of good news right well y 'all well maybe if tamra maybe tamra doesn't have any other friends i mean just tamra so tamra's like you know what gretchen i don't understand why my name keeps

41:06Ben Mandelker: getting brought up she's um out of all people you could bring like why do you bring joe does it bother you that she's here i mean it's more about like what your intent is no i'm sorry

41:17Ronnie Karam: it's intense Intent. Intent. Intent?

41:22Ben Mandelker: Isn't your intent?

41:26Ronnie Karam: You think I'm about to hear to go ask you or what? Well, I just think that maybe not bringing the person who is maybe Slade's ex is the best thing because we've had issues, you know, with Slade's exes. And she goes, oh, I didn't even call that. I mean, it's just so. You know, some girl, you say Slade or whatever. I had nothing to do with that.

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45:07Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So Gina's like, oh, my God, congrats with it, Tim and Sweaty. Was she a bridesmaid? As if they didn't watch every episode of this show before they came on. And Heather's like, no, but I was a bridesmaid. It was interesting. I still smell Vienna sausages being passed around. Is that a weird memory?

45:31Ben Mandelker: Tamra, let me ask you this. Do you feel any remorse for anything when you said that I was cheating on GF? And let me see flashbacks of Tamra with her gumdrop hairstyle back then, where it was hair that would have a plateau. Gumdrop hairstyle?

45:49Ronnie Karam: Wait, what did you say? I didn't mean to cut you off. I thought it was insane.

45:52Ben Mandelker: No, because her hair, it was flat on top, and then it would cascade down and go a little wider. It was like she had a blonde hair gumdrop on her head, It was that look for a while in Orange County. It started like season one and lasted through season like 14.

46:09Ronnie Karam: I saw you sitting on a guy's vibe at St. Regis. But does that mean I'm having an affair on Jeff? While you kissed him and Jeff was in the hospital.

46:20Ben Mandelker: Timra,

46:24Ben Mandelker: when you go and sleep, a deadbeat Ned.

46:26Ronnie Karam: And then we see the deadbeat dad thing. I'm sorry, Gretchen, but Slade was a deadbeat dad. Okay, so I pulled this up from the ever-so-trustworthy People magazine, which I think that's pretty trustworthy in this world, right? Let's see here. Where is it? The mom, basically, the mom is saying that there was, in terms of child support, Smiley owes$152 ,655.27, according to a court order obtained by people at the time. So what does that mean? If he owed$152 ,000 according to court orders and he didn't pay it, wouldn't that make him a deadbeat dad? I'm extremely confused about how we're defining this now.

47:16Ronnie Karam: The mother also told people she created a GoFundMe to help with cost for Grayson's memorial as well as to pay for his existing medical bills. She received donations from the two judges, two judge, sorry, two T's in a pod co-hosts. Slade and Gretchen can keep the money that rightfully belonged to my child, but they cannot shamefully capitalize on his sweet memory as I will no longer permit it. And in death, I will be his voice. She said enough is enough. So I don't know if you don't want that shit being spread around, then talk to that lady and the court or the court papers that says that Slade owed that much money.

47:50Ben Mandelker: Literally don't care. And I think at this point, it's such old news. The fact that Gretchen's bringing it up is so stupid.

47:54Ronnie Karam: So Gretchen is like, she's like, you literally started saying these things from like from the very get go making accusations that like weren't even true.

48:02Ben Mandelker: And she's like, yeah, but there are articles about him not paying child support. So I mentioned it like now there's no articles about him. I was like, why do you guys keep talking about Slade and the child support? Like, it's it's been years. Like, we all know.

48:13Ronnie Karam: Slade Smiley has faced multiple court orders for child support with his ex-partner, Michelle, claiming he owed blah, blah, blah. reports yeah so i mean i don't know you what what we do here's what we do know is that

48:26Ben Mandelker: what we do know is that the heart of all this bullshit every single one thing everything is slade it's always because then tamra's like oh yeah i have to remember that 13 years ago slade was on stage calling me fat and then we see him doing his stand-up where he's like you know if bf goodrich issued a press release said that tamra barney is replacing the michelin

48:43Ronnie Karam: man is their mascot okay okay yeah and then uh god he was just hilarious wasn't he and uh brett's like yeah this is a problem because we go back and forth okay so let me start with this but you don't even let me talk brett's in okay then but let me start with this but i can't talk about it well let me start with this man what i can't talk but i'm just saying let me start because i'm sorry for reaching out to your daughter it's like oh okay you can stop there you start you start

49:13Ben Mandelker: I'm sorry I did that because I did I know that it hurt you and that was not my intent at the time and so then over at the table shans like well I hope that Gretchen can get to the point where I am which is I I just have total indifference to Tamara like I'm I am so indifferent like when I see Tamara do I get angry nope do I yell at her nope do I want to throw little cubes of cheese at her forehead nope yes I I want to have those for myself I am totally different Shannon indifferent that's what i'm known for being indifferent and not emotional yeah but i feel like you go back

49:45Ronnie Karam: and forth because in new orleans you're friendly and you guys go to a bar but then in my house you're indifferent what is it shannon but it must be difficult for you to talk the line of

49:56Ben Mandelker: having fun with someone you have history with and it's like wait a minute i gotta be smart and protect myself i get that i'm a person of the people it's easy for me television's other to bro.

50:10Ronnie Karam: So then back to the other two, Gretchen's like, well, I was hoping that you could come to the table and say, Gretchen, I'm sorry I got involved. And she's like, well, we haven't even gotten there, Gretchen, because you won't let me talk. So let me talk about it soon. Okay, I'm going to talk now. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. That's not anything to do with what we're talking about. Let me see what I want. It's my turn to talk, bitch.

50:34Ben Mandelker: So Tamara's saying that she's

50:36Ronnie Karam: like, I did not call him a deadbeat dad,

50:38Ben Mandelker: which of course she basically did. And Gretchen's like, yeah, what you talked about in your podcast is the same as calling him that. Like that was the intent of it and everything. She's like, well, first of all, I can't control what gets put on the podcast. I have put together all of our headlines. I have stitches together all the words that I say. I can't help it. I just, they say they had me walking and they had me do the entire phonetic alphabet and then they just type out the entire podcast. It's not my fault.

51:01Ronnie Karam: That was so crazy. Blaming I heart. It was literally on your podcast. What are you talking about? and so Gretchen's like well you could say you don't want to talk about it she goes why would I do that I don't like you Gretchen okay do you want to move forward or not she's like well yeah I want to move forward but I can't dwell on the past Gretchen okay I can't sit with the past you're so upset with me hi Joe hi Joe I know right

51:30Ben Mandelker: right so uh so Tamar's like yeah what's it gonna take for you to let things go and Gretchen's like okay I'm not gonna let go like what you did because I got like so much pain and hurt to both like Slade and I in our lives because like when you put out that Slade is a deadbeat dad like when Slade tries to get work and help support his family and to help his son back in the day people would just like google it and look it up and be like Slade is a deadbeat dad like I actually guarantee what stopped Slade's employment opportunities even more was the stand-up clip that we just showed that they just showed and him calling Vicky Miss Piggy and also just his general behavior on the Real Housewives of being awful as he's been

52:09Ronnie Karam: awful to all of us for seven years yeah he's gross he's a gross person because if you do a search if

52:14Ben Mandelker: you do a search for Slade Smiley you're going to find a million comments and a million items and a million articles talking about how no one likes Slade Smiley everyone's like oh get rid of Slade Smiley Slade Smiley is gross Slade Smiley is disgusting that is what's affecting the employment

52:29Ronnie Karam: opportunities so and back in your day you were saying that you wouldn't marry slade because he had too much debt and all this other stuff that was going on and he wasn't working so slade has never been working since you've known him so why are we pretending that slade was this like rich guy with a job when that hasn't happened since season two so i don't know he also like

52:49Ben Mandelker: he basically gave up like corporate life to to follow fame right he started trying to be an actor or try to do stand up and comedy. And then he's like shocked that he can't just like insert himself right back into like the corporate world.

53:02Ronnie Karam: Or has he even, I don't know.

53:06Ben Mandelker: I mean, I may have all my facts jumbled up, but I, I can't imagine the deadbeat. The deadbeat element is, is the only thing that's preventing him from getting work. That's what I'm. Yeah.

53:17Ronnie Karam: And also if anybody looks it up, it wasn't just Tamara saying he was a deadbeat. It was because he wasn't paying his child support. There were multiple court orders against him. So, I mean, it's like that's also searchable, Gretchen. So and I can't believe you're making me stand up for Tamron. But like, seriously, my God, you're with Slade and Slade is the ultimate worst on this show. Slade even started all this shit that they're fighting about right now. You know, Slade has always been a problem and he's always going to be a problem. He got you fired the first time and he's going to get you fired the second time.

53:46Ben Mandelker: So when Gretchen said like that Slade has not been able to get work because of what Tamron said, Tamron goes, wait, so I stopped him? from getting jobs? Yeah. I wasn't aware of that. At that point, Tamara's like, I won. I did it. I won this war. I can forgive now. I don't, we can, we can put down our swords.

54:07Ronnie Karam: Well, I feel like I won this argument years ago. It's got stupid. Okay. Come on. I'm sorry. I'm going to put my knees up against your knees. Okay. Now listen to your question. We're like sisters. I love you so much. I'm so glad we're friends now. Great. Gretchen, can't wait to break your hand, comb and brush it, and tell you how much I love you, Gretchen. We're best friends now.

54:30Ben Mandelker: I don't want this to affect your life in any sort of way, Gretchen. Knees to knees touching, okay? We love each other now. And Gretchen's like, but it still is. And we're going to work through all of it then, and I'm willing to move forward. And basically, they agree that they're going to move forward, and they're going to be friends, and now they're going to hold hands and come back to the table.

54:52Ronnie Karam: wait a minute hell just froze over pigs are flying pigs in a blanket out of my purse and into my mouth wacky amelie well well look at that now i'm gonna be the asshole of the group i guess

55:04Ben Mandelker: i'm gonna be the one holding on to a grudge for tamra i'm like that's exactly right you thought that was not a consideration because like i like i've been saying upset yeah shannon shannon makes it about her but to be fair she's also making it about her because she knows like ultimately everything that Tamara is doing is part of like a larger war against Shannon. So Gretchen is just a pawn in that, you know?

55:26Ronnie Karam: So, um, she's like, wow. Well, if Shannon and Gretchen want, I mean, sorry, if Jen and Gretchen, if Gretchen and, uh, Jen want to resolve multiple years of issues with Tamara in a 10 minute conversation and then skip along the beach, like five year old sluts, then that's fine. I've been there and I've, I've done the skipping off too. I, I'm not going to do it anymore. Oh, oh, Hold on, let me make my lips into the hoop noise. Oh, so you made up? Oh, oh.

55:58Ben Mandelker: Is this step one? Or are there going to be multiple steps of making up? Or are you guys just going to say that you're good and put a Band-Aid over it? And just isolate me in the group and make me look like the bitch and run me off the show? Because I just want to prepare myself mentally.

56:12Ronnie Karam: Thanks so much. Thank you. To good news Friday. We're taking step one in going to Yale.

56:21Ben Mandelker: the producer's like do you think it's gonna last no i don't think it's gonna last and i was like their relationship is like what my career on this show should have been two weeks of life that's it

56:35Ronnie Karam: um so now poor sophie arrives at the beach her mother has just told everybody that she got dumped so of course emily comes in with the softest hand so before you got here shannon

56:48Ben Mandelker: told us you got dumped by a hottie sorry stupid in the spirit of it takes a village you're here with all your wise elders and the very elders shit anyway we're gonna help you out of it because we're gonna tell you all our worst breakup stories and we're gonna start with gina your mother's got five from just last week alone yeah i don't know i don't know if sophie needs the worst breakup stories i mean she's she's she her mom's shannon yeah she's had enough breakup stories geez she has perspective just give the kid the croissants in a box i know right so june's like well i would say like my worst breakup story was like my divorce but like like it all landed when it was supposed to and tamra's like yeah okay joe what was your worst breakup story that dude slayed i'm sorry and jade's just like yeah you don't want to know my story and we see the flashback of her and slate breaking up in therapy and now there's like well

57:51Ronnie Karam: i was in middle school once and i had a boyfriend and he broke up with me on a soccer field with his whole posse of guys by the way he's gay now and has never worked in the industry it's humiliating mostly for him yes i was standing there on the fields of horse grilly high school

58:11Ben Mandelker: being dumped by a gay man. And I thought, how sad for you, because I'm going to grow up and be wealthy, sending my child to Yale, and you're just going to be a gay in New York who somehow doesn't make it on Broadway. How terrible.

58:27Ronnie Karam: I remember I was so obsessed with this wrestler, and he had a Bronco, and I loved his hair so much that I got tracks to look just like his hair. And I just, I mean, he had a Bronco. And Heather's like, I mean, the Bronco alone. What is a Bronco? Oh, Terry and I just bought one of those.

58:47Ben Mandelker: We just actually bought one of those. Football team? God, I'm so impressed you dated someone with the football team also.

58:53Ronnie Karam: So I went to a house party, and I was like, you know, it's a small town, so we're just going to have sex. Oh, that's what happens when you're from a small town. I'm from a small town, too. That's what we do, too. Big towns people don't have sex like that, but in small towns we do.

59:08Ben Mandelker: Wait, so you had sex? you had sex with like a wrestler. Sophie, do not listen to this whatsoever. And she's like, yes, yes. And then, you know, he had his friend take me home and, you know, then I had sex with a friend. And then I was like, do you think he still likes me? And then the friend was like, I don't know. So it was a really great night for both of us. Sophie, okay, Sophie, you can go home now. Don't listen to Auntie Jen anymore.

59:27Ronnie Karam: Thanks, Sophie. I had a boyfriend back in the 80s. He was so hot and everything. And he dumped me. He had a girlfriend and stuff. So I had to go to his house. So I went to his house. And I got his favorite jacket. jacket and I stabbed him with a knife. I kept stabbing him and stabbing him. I said, fuck you, fuck die, fucker. And then I was leaving out the garage and I was standing there with the knife still held above my head and he opened the garage and he drove away because he saw me standing there with the knife.

59:54Ben Mandelker: It was so funny. It was so funny that I kept my hairstyle from that day for the next 20 years of my life. So then Jen...

1:00:06Ben Mandelker: So Jen's like, you showed him. And like, so they're all just like laughing and China goes, you know, someday Sophie, you're going to sit at a table and you're going to laugh about your breakup stories with another group of toxic women too.

1:00:20Ronnie Karam: Here's to Sophie getting kicked out of a party one day for lying about something. Everybody. Good news Friday.

1:00:29Ben Mandelker: And then we got the midseason trailer, which featured zero Katie. So it looks like she is done and done. Katie did say that she will be going to the reunion, but I think that's it for Katie for the regular episodes. She's done.

1:00:44Ronnie Karam: Yeah. It looks like that's a wrap on Katie, but the rest of the season still looks insane. So let's see. Of course, the Gretchen and Tamara truce lasts about five minutes as we all suspected. So I guess we'll see. We'll see where it goes. You know what?

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1:04:21Ronnie Karam: I mean, I just have. It is delicious. Caesar sauce is like a Parmesan, garlicky blend with some lemon in it. And you can dip anything in there.

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