#2992 RHOM S7E14: Cruise Controlling

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4:46Ben Mandelker: Hello and welcome to Watch What Crap Ends, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the one and only, the perfect and special Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going?

5:01Ronnie Karam: Well, hello. How's it been going with you?

5:04Ben Mandelker: It's going well. You know, it's Miami Day and, you know, it's kind of like my favorite day. like because you know i'm not gonna do my whole typical monologue about how much i love this show you guys all know i love the show so i'm happy what's what's new with you nothing having a great

5:19Ronnie Karam: time over here still looking for a little bobcat in my neighborhood i saw it one time a little baby bobcat and so now i'm like yeah all over for it to make it my little friend but i haven't seen it again since so i'm getting kind of set over here well i hope it's okay typical bobcat but here we are with some real housewives of me jammy season seven episode 14 navigating friendships

5:44Ben Mandelker: yes um so this is the episode where they have just gotten back from a cast trip and now they're going on another cast trip i don't think we've ever had back-to-back cast trips and by the way they had a cast trip they had a trip embedded within the cast trip and now they're going on another trip i'm like i'm very impressed they really they really upped the budget on this one

6:06Ronnie Karam: this season yeah well we opened with gertie at home in her closet uh facetiming stephanie she's like hello baby girl i was starting to pack for the trip and then i was like should i get a little bit of a pulse for stephanie because that first trip it was so chaotic girl it was a lot it was a lot how do you feel tell me everything tell me how you feel like tell me deep down i feel like

6:28Ben Mandelker: that trip was a lot for me. That trip was a lot for me. It was a lot. It was a lot. A lot of money that I spent on a private plane. Have you spoken to Julia,

6:37Ronnie Karam: Marisol, Alexia? Where are you with all the girls? Where are you with the girls? Tell me.

6:42Ben Mandelker: No, I most definitely have not spoken with any of them. None of them. No. I only speak to the men who I'm surrounded with because I work with men. That's the only people I've spoken to. Definitely not spoken to them.

6:53Ronnie Karam: I get it. You know why? Because it was a lot. It was a lot.

6:58Ben Mandelker: Then we go to the Alexia and Frankie beauty bar and Larsa calls Alexia and she's like, hi, what's going on? Like, I'm at the beauty bar.

7:08Ronnie Karam: Hey, Frankie, you know what? You should say hi to Larsa because she's calling right now while we're at the beauty bar. He's like, hello, love. I love I miss you. I miss you. I love that Frankie has just become like Miami, you know, salon owner because, you know, he just says that to everybody like, hello, love. What are we doing today on your hands?

7:33Ben Mandelker: Oh, my love, I miss you, love, like, and this and that, and XYZ. What's going on?

7:38Ronnie Karam: Are you ready for the cruise? We're going to go on a cruise. Are you ready for it? Was it a lot?

7:42Ben Mandelker: I mean, I'm, like, all packed up. Like, hopefully we can go on this cruise and, like, have, like, a good time, like, and make good memories, like, and not necessarily fight, like.

7:51Ronnie Karam: Well, I'm not trying to fight anybody, and I really hope you and Lisa are not trying to fight each other either, because you know what? It's so hard between both of you, Larsa. It's like so hard. Frankie, what would you say right now to Lisa if she was here? Hello, my love. That's right. Listen to Frankie.

8:07Ben Mandelker: Well, help me fix it. Like help her fix it. Like help us fix it. Like let's us be fixed. Like.

8:13Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Okay. Okay. Then maybe you can like help me with Stephanie too, because like, I really did feel offended that she came at me at the plaza. Like, how could you come to me at the plaza in front of the St. Francis ski?

8:26Ben Mandelker: so then we cut back to the to gerti and stephanie talking and stephanie's like i don't understand how my words get misconstrued and it's been like a tough adjustment for me like i don't understand when i say if you don't do exactly what i say and on your best behavior both on the plane and off the plane i'm gonna leave you behind and if you die you die that's not my fault because you don't work in business how does that get misconstrued all the time i know so misconstrued

8:47Ronnie Karam: it's like crazy misconstrued yeah i mean i want everyone to cool down and my whole vibe for this Cruise is nautical Steph. You're going to hear that word a lot because that's going to be what makes me really charming and hilarious this episode. Nautical Steph. Nautical Steph. Yeah, I'm going to be hilarious. Nautical Steph.

9:02Ben Mandelker: I'm going to be hilarious right now. Okay, because Stephanie, if you guys don't mind if I speak about myself in third person, Stephanie has a lot of personalities. She has one personality that puts her tongue on one of her lips and then laughs. So spin the wheel, bitch. Spin the wheel. Because who are you going to get today? Because nautical Steph, she's super calm. She's always unbothered. and she's definitely going to be America's favorite. I think it's just like rolls off the tongue. Nautical Steph.

9:27Ronnie Karam: Oh, Nautical Steph. Nautical Steph. I love that. How is she doing? How is Nautical Steph doing? Tell me. Tell me.

9:33Ben Mandelker: Can I jump in this scene here as Marisol as the resident jokester of Real Houses of Miami? Nautical Steph. More like not a cool Steph. All right. You may need a khaki to enjoy that one. Okay. Okay. Okay.

9:47Ronnie Karam: She tried it. She tried it. Marisol tried it, right? That was a good one. That was a good one. She tried it. Okay. Nautical Steph, right? Nautical Steph. Okay, Steph. Nautical Steph. I'm going to go with that. Nautical Steph.

10:00Ben Mandelker: Yeah, because it's like every time I hit the ocean, I'm just chilling. Like, don't you remember when I was very chill on the yacht earlier this season and I called Alexia a Rottweiler? Like, remember that? That was easy. I'm like, chill.

10:14Ronnie Karam: So back to Alexia and Larsa. She's like, I'll help you with Lisa if you help me with Stephanie. And the four of us are going to be hanging out. Okay? Because we're going to help each other. And Lush is like, can't be like. So then Marisol arrives to meet Julie at a cafe. Julia is dressed like, I don't know, like a lady who owned sheep in the 20s. I don't know. It's like some sort of music hair. I don't know. I think she got a new stylist. She was like, we're going to do crazy things with your hair today. She's like, okay, I like.

10:46Ben Mandelker: It's like braids at the top. It was like she was creating a surface that she could put a plate on or something.

10:53Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I thought it was kind of pretty, I think. I'm not sure, but I don't know. Listen, I love some new hair. I'm just always jealous of people with hair.

11:02Ben Mandelker: Marisol comes in and goes, oh, I love the hair, which is her way of saying, God, I hate that hair. And Julia's like, you look so cute. She's like, well, you look terrific. And by terrific, you look terrible. And the weather is delicious, isn't it? By that, I mean it's humid. What are you having? Is that tea? Is that a khaki? Is it a cocky? Is it tea and cocky all together? Come on, spill the beans.

11:22Ronnie Karam: Thank God the weather's delicious, because it's all I'm going to eat. Am I right? I feel so proper. You want to feel proper? Have some English tea? Oh, yes, English tea with scone. So proper.

11:37Ben Mandelker: Scone. I don't even know what that is. How are the boys? Oh, well, Martina's in kitchen, and she said, I'm baking my mother's cake. Like mother cake. Like a cake of a mother. Like the mother who made cake and then breathes. Oh, wow, wow, wow, Martina. She's such a mommy chica. Mommy, momchica, babushka.

11:56Ronnie Karam: I'm sorry, Ben, but I'm going to have to correct you because we're not calling her Martina today. Today it's only Marty, all right? Because we go way back, me and Marty. Oh, yes, Marty making cake. Cake by mommy cake. Yeah, Marty. Oh, good old Marty. Let's make that happen today. Call Marty. Yeah, let's call her up.

12:16Ben Mandelker: Look, look who I'm on phone with! Drunk lady! Look at her! Do you see her, Marty? Do you mind if I call her Marty now? They say if I want to be friends with cool girls, I have to call you Marty now!

12:27Ronnie Karam: Look! Marty, put one son on phone. Okay, son, look. This lady, this is what hides under bed. Not so scary, right? She only eats her, not children.

12:40Ben Mandelker: look oh martin marty i said you're making cake but you are making pie look look at it look at her berry pie show me the berry pie show me your berry pie that sounds dirty ah

12:55Ronnie Karam: it's beautiful well look at that i'm just so impressed i'm so i'm on there's jackson oh the boys look at the boys marty has boys oh their faces they're just so cute all right see you marty I didn't come to lunch to stare at your old lady pie and your weird face. Let's just go ahead and cut that. Boys, press end on your mother's phone.

13:20Ben Mandelker: Martina's at home with her berry pie being like, I didn't win 45 million goddamn Grand Slam titles and be called Marty.

13:30Ben Mandelker: She's like, who the fuck is this woman?

13:34Ronnie Karam: Oh my God, when I see those babies and those tongues in my heart. Ow, my heart. God, just get them over here. Get them over here. Give me a vampire facial with some of their blood. I could really use some of their youth. Just get them into my face. So now they're talking about...

13:53Ben Mandelker: I wish it could be six of us all the time, but it cannot be, because daughters do not accept little cute babies.

14:03Ronnie Karam: Before, when I talked to Vika, we would touch subject, And we will talk about the end of conversation. So painful. I knew it was painful for her. It was painful for me today. Hold on, tear. You know what? She told me, Mom, I got to go. But I love you. Oh, she said I love you. And Marisol's like, hold on. Let me dab up my eye a little bit. I think, can I get an olive? I've got some gray goose coming out of my eye. Sorry, that happens sometimes. What a beautiful story. I'm sorry. Who's Vika?

14:37Ben Mandelker: It's almost like someone tells you I love you for the first time. And I've been waiting so long for it. And the way she said I love you, it was encouraging. The way she said I love you, I guess. It was so special.

14:51Ronnie Karam: Well, cheers to Vika. Cheers to the boys. Cheers to not dying on the way home from Spain. Wasn't that something? I'm glad you thought I came here to talk about your stupid family and their idiotic problems. but I'm really here to talk about what a bitch Stephanie is.

15:06Ben Mandelker: All right. Can we just get to that? All that screaming left me with PTSD. I call that post-traumatic sidecar disorder because I drank a sidecar. I love cockies. I'm just trying to wedge it in. There's something so wrong with trying to build your brain.

15:24Ronnie Karam: That was a tough one, even though Stephanie's name begins with an S. What can I tell you?

15:30Ben Mandelker: Post-traumatic staff disorder. Oh, God, that would have been good, too.

15:32Ronnie Karam: Oh, just wait. It's about to be PT-NSD. MS.

15:40Ronnie Karam: Post-traumatic nautical step disorder. It's going to be fun. It's going to be good.

15:44Ben Mandelker: Wow. I already feel that one catching on. It's so catchy. Listen, little things are becoming a big deal. And of course, I'm specifically talking about Stephanie. She's very short. And I don't think it was a big deal that we didn't go to Marbella. I mean, what? You know, you ask someone to be their godfather. You plan this out for weeks and weeks in advance. and it was very special. You said it was one of the most important days of your life. Not a big deal, though. You missed it and stayed back in Sevilla and went to the Starbucks. You know, the Starbucks in Sevilla, they actually do a flamenco dance for you if you order a grande.

16:12Ben Mandelker: It was amazing.

16:13Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I said, they said, what's your name for the comp? And I said, Marisol. And when my drink was ready, they said, Marisol!

16:25Ben Mandelker: They gave me a free tie, tile, and they put polka dots on my cup.

16:31Ronnie Karam: The lady sobbed when she gave me my drink. She sobbed and told me not to let any man ever use me again.

16:40Ben Mandelker: Well, I feel like Stephanie felt offended that I came with her on the plane and that I took you off the fence. Well, she's got to tone it down because everybody yells so much. And I'm really worried about this cruise because I cannot be banished from Richard's kingdom. Julia's like, who is Richard? Who?

17:00Ronnie Karam: He's my godfather, all right? I'm at it about party, okay? It's cruise departure less than 48 hours. Oh, God, dumb me thinking I could put a fun cruise together. After all, we just went through in Spain. I mean, that was terrible what we went through. You know, all the stuff that I started and then refused to engage in and caught the big scene by not showing up for. Oh, it was just so much drama.

17:25Ben Mandelker: Oh, my God. You know, with Steph, you know, she's just, she's like FedEx Ground. Her delivery is always just wrong. And then it rubs everyone the wrong way. And she just hasn't perfected the lube delivery. You know, she's got to have a lube delivery. See what I'm saying? She's really loud. It's like she swallowed a megaphone. How hilarious was that? It's a joke. She swallowed a megaphone. Oh, God. It's out of control. It's so loud. I can't even think because that megaphone is going off. And it's got one of those buttons that sounds like a bomb is dropping. That's the last thing I need to hear is her mouth opens up in here.

17:58Ben Mandelker: Boom. Too stressful.

18:00Ronnie Karam: She's so bossy. She makes people uncomfortable, period. End of story. Well, I can't allow that for Mars. I've got to protect my piece. I like only demure people, which is why I hang out with Alexia. Like, what are you guys talking about? Isn't that the second time this season where you're like, oh, my God, this cast member is just too loud. I just can't take the loudness of the cast member. I'm like, oh, please. You're on Real Housewives of Miami. This is the loudest show on Bravo.

18:29Ben Mandelker: It really is. So now we go to a restaurant with Kiki and her father, L 'Orest, and they are ordering sushi. She's like, sushi, why can't you say sushi, dad? He's like, sushi. No, papa, sushi. He's like, goddammit, I hate coming onto her TV show. So she's ordered salmon, and he doesn't like salmon, and he doesn't want to eat this at all. And so she's like, you're so Haitian. And then they talk about her family stuff, because her family stuff is all messed up. because remember, she is having death threats from family members who think that she is actually massively famous in the United States and can afford to bring everyone from Haiti over to the U.S.

19:07Ben Mandelker: and sponsor them.

19:09Ronnie Karam: And then they start talking about how she was kicked out when she was 15 because he got a new wife that didn't want her there, and she wanted her kicked out, so the dad agreed with it. And she's like, that really hurt my feelings, Dad. He's like, well, it wasn't me. She goes, yeah, but you let her kick me out, and that was terrible for me. And he's like, okay, well, when are you going to get over it? She's like, dad, it really hurt me. It really traumatized me. And he's like, yeah, but look at all the cameras you have now. She's like, you're crazy.

19:38Ben Mandelker: I basically made you famous. Like, if it weren't for me, you never would have been on TV. So you're welcome. That's such a parent thing.

19:46Ronnie Karam: Like, you traumatized me when I was young. You wouldn't be so great today if I hadn't traumatized you. Where's my thanks?

19:53Ben Mandelker: That's basically what it is. and then you know she's she's basically like like just eat the salmon eat the tartar try the tartar and he tastes it and he likes it she's like yeah you have to try something yeah it's nice so then

20:07Ronnie Karam: we go to lisa's condo and um jode lisa and jody scene so it's like i guess what i'm doing he's like uh packing for the next trip i don't know are you are you hacking for the next trip or something

20:21Ben Mandelker: yeah when when are we going to get jody tested for tetanus because it's it's becoming an issue now like that jaw does not move it is locked into place i worry for whatever dog bit him in the first

20:34Ronnie Karam: place because you know that dog's walking around probably jody's jody's got something going on

20:39Ben Mandelker: there i'm not really sure but nothing moves on his face it's so weird it's so strange in the in the confessional he he does move a little bit more his jaw does move but in this scene it was legitimately wild. He's literally like teeth clenched together. It's not clenched. They're just stuck. And his eyes are so big and he's like looking left and right like a Felix the Cat clock. I'm like, can we do a wellness check on this man, please?

21:05Ronnie Karam: Yeah, you don't want me to put too sexy in my suitcase, right? Because you don't want people coming on to me, right, Jody? He's like, yeah, can we just get things that cut your ankles and stuff? That would be great because I know that it could come on to you and stuff. Yeah, it feels like, you know what, Jody, it's just like so weird because like i haven't been a missus now for like a day and it's just so weird like i'm not a missus like i want to be a missus you know what i mean uh-huh yeah you know like to somebody who wants to marry me and stuff right uh uh-huh yeah because you know i'm like sitting here no ring on my finger jody see that he's like uh uh-huh all right you know being in being in a

21:44Ben Mandelker: relationship is like tough but like being in this relationship is like really really tough because like the lawsuits like never stop and like the attacks never stop and like the let the latest on larsow is like targeted at me and it's like it causes us to fight and to the point where i have to like sleep in another room because we said the fighting is so bad and then i'm like i'm gonna leave you and then you're like no i'm please don't leave and i'm like i had never really liked you in the first place i just agreed to be on the show with you so you could look like you're not alone and then you're like please no but haven't you developed feelings for me yet and i said well i me and they'll kind of like you're kind of cool to be around but like i don't want to be with you and i go to another room and then i call up marcus and i'm like god my my fucking my fucking bitch girlfriend am i right no stop stop stop too much too much we're happy america we're happy

22:28Ronnie Karam: we're happy couple okay stop um so she says okay because he's just silent staring at her when she's like basically begging him to propose and she goes okay well i only want to get married to someone that wants to be married to me. What do you think about that? He's like, I just, I, uh, uh, uh, uh. And he says that he loves Lisa, but it's really hard withstanding all of this. So basically -

22:52Ben Mandelker: Cut, cut, stop. No, no, no, no, America. We have a perfect relationship. We never fight. And if we do fight, we stay in the same bed. Everything is good between us. Don't you worry, everyone, America sweethearts. So how do you feel when you saw the email that I was divorced?

23:06Ronnie Karam: I mean, my face moves so much. I remember the look on my face. It was this. Yeah, I remember that. I remember that. That was something, Jody. That was really something.

23:17Ben Mandelker: I froze. I didn't know what to do. Yeah, I was relieved because I thought the drama would go down. And then it used to be like that almost all the drama came from the divorce. And lately it's been like half the divorce and like half the friends. And it's just like overwhelming right now.

23:31Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but Larza gathered the girls and she got riled them up over that stupid text message. It was so silly. He's like, I wasn't even angry. I mean, this was my face. Yeah, I've seen that one. It's the same one you made about the divorce email. He's like, no, that was this face. Oh, yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah, it's totally different. Yeah, but, you know, I had an agreement. Oh, Jodi says, I had an agreement from Larza that she would no longer bring me up and cause drama. So I texted her, Larza, what are you doing? I thought we had an agreement. And then we see a flashback to Larza being like, oh, my God, you guys, he texted me like, Oh my god, I'm like terrified for my life.

24:08Ronnie Karam: Jody, like texting me like. And he's like, I'm not even like the one that initiated the fact that we're texting. Like she's been texting me for a long time. So I just don't understand what's wrong.

24:21Ben Mandelker: Yeah, like how could this even happen? And Lisa's like, imagine, imagine if I've been texting Marcus. Like what would happen? Imagine if I texted Marcus. I was like, hey, let me come over. Let me meet your dad. Like maybe we can hang out. Introduce me to other famous people. Maybe we go to a party. Do you want to hang out? Do you want to have dinner? You want to go to P.F. Chang's? Imagine if I had texted those things. Theoretically, she would be furious.

24:44Ronnie Karam: That's why I put them all in an email instead. Still haven't heard back. So Jody's like, oh, I just don't understand why the bar for sending a message is such a big deal. But Russell, I mean, Russell yelled, show me respect last year. And then we see Russell being like, Larza, please be respectful to my wife. and Jodi's like, I mean, why was mine so much worse? I don't get it. Because you're being villainized because you're daring to go up against Larsa. That's why. And now you've hopefully learned your lesson not to ever text Larsa again because she will use that shit against you.

25:18Ben Mandelker: Exactly. So now we go to Shoma, the wonderful world of Shoma where nautical Steph is about to enter her nautical form. But first she has to have a pep talk from Anastasia. Or Anastasia. Is it Anastasia or Anastasia? of Beverly Hills, famous cosmetic tycoon. So Stephanie's like, okay, we have to finish wrapping these gifts, okay? Thank God for Anastasia Stasia, because all this time that things were sold out, she should be here any minute to give me stuff that no one else can get, because it's sold out. She is like, seriously, me? We think the same, and I wonder what her outfit's going to be today.

25:53Ben Mandelker: Oh my God, she's here. She's here. Oh my God. Nautical Anastasia. She's here.

25:57Ronnie Karam: She's like, leave, assistant, leave. Nobody wants you here. Go. Go. Anastasia, Hi, I'm so glad you're here all the way from LA. And she's like, I know Miami is gorgeous. By the way, I brought the beautiful sunshine. This is what we call Anastasia sunshine. It's beautiful. Followed me all the way here.

26:16Ben Mandelker: Thank God someone finally brought the sunshine to famously overcast and rainy Miami. So Stephanie is like, Anastasia is, I'm just gonna say, I'm gonna call her Anastasia because I don't know which way it is. I'm just gonna mix them both together. Anastasia is from Anastasia Beverly Hills. and she is like the biggest makeup tycoon. Her makeup is sold all over the world and her company is valued at over a billion dollars, which is like$5 in Shoma money. So yeah, it's like really cool.

26:44Ronnie Karam: I remember because she comes up to me and she says, I love how you run your Instagram. And I died. I literally died. That was back when I was Instagram. That was back when I was Instagram staff. And since that night, we clicked. We just clicked. I mean, someone who likes your Instagram, best friends basically.

27:02Ben Mandelker: there is no way that this lady who is a famous cosmetics person. She has a big old building in Beverly Hills. You know, it's like right as you like are leaving century city. It's like right there. There's just no way, way that this lady is like looking at Stephanie's Instagram. And it's like, Ooh, I love the way that she is running this generic Instagram full of selfies. I need to know how she does it. No, Stephanie totally went up to her. I was like, Oh my God, I'm such a big fan of all your products. It's like, show me everything. If you give me like a free lip gloss, I'll give you a house. Like, like that's how it happened.

27:36Ronnie Karam: Well, Anastasia just gets me and I get her cause she's a business woman and I'm a business woman. I mean, it's basically the same thing. I sell real estate kind of sometimes. And she has a huge makeup empire. So we're basically twins. I mean, we're straight shooters. We talk all the time. We both like really old guys. And you know, if, if ever I have any problems, that's the first person that I would call. She's not really the first person that would answer, but I do call her. I do try. I'll have my assistant try. Never answers her either. But, you know, sisters.

28:10Ben Mandelker: So, first of all, thank you so much for coming here. Obviously, you know, the only makeup I wear is Anastasia. Unfortunately, the only makeup that Nautical Steph wears is just she just takes powder that she finds around the around the around the boat and puts it on her face. that sounded like cocaine and maybe it was but I actually just meant actual talc that she had air conditioning okay that's just nautical stuff just trying to try to just show I've got two different personalities like different types of things on her face anyway what was I saying I'm just so I'm just really nervous around you Anastasia she's like yes I know I know and I always have extra stock for my friend I'm so happy we still have some please please let's sit on the sofa so you can enjoy my brown tweed suit with gold medals on it.

28:57Ben Mandelker: Now, should we have a talk?

28:58Ronnie Karam: I'm going to host a Christmas party for all my new girlfriends. So that's going to be really fun. So I want to give them all your makeup. But then also we're going to be creating a drink at this Christmas party. And all the proceeds from this special drink are going to my friend's Haiti cause. So it's like, you know, don't hate on Haiti, the cause. And so if we sell drinks, the more drinks we sell, the more money we get to Haiti. I'm like, how big is this Christmas party? What are you going to send them? $75 at the end of the party? And you're having a closed bar at your party where you're charging people for the drinks?

29:31Ronnie Karam: What the fuck? What are you talking about?

29:33Ben Mandelker: And she says she's going to turn Shoma Bazaar into the Santa's Wonderland. Shoma Bazaar, where she went earlier in the season, it was like this corporate lobby with a coffee bar in it. She's like, we're going to turn this corporate lobby into the most whimsical holiday experience you've ever had. I'm like, yes, I can't wait to see that tremana turned into Santa's workshop.

29:59Ronnie Karam: Well, when you called me, I was in a meeting, and I have to tell you something. Immediately, I went, she's pregnant. I can't wait to see the baby's Instagram. What will the engagement be like? Can babies engage? Do they know how to double tap?

30:14Ben Mandelker: What would a little baby look like in brown tweed business suit? That's what I want to know. would the baby have a bun on its head yes or no will there be a gold medallion that a brown scarf will come out of and go over it's the baby's shoulder because that's kind of a cool thing

30:30Ronnie Karam: these days it's like i don't even know like a baby i mean masood's so much older than me i mean god he's like you she's like okay i get it but like he's like 24 years older so like imagine like when my baby is 10 is masood gonna even want to go to a baseball game i mean oh absolutely he will

30:48Ben Mandelker: because he doesn't understand that he is a very old man. If he doesn't understand he's old now, he won't understand he's old in 10 years. Trust me. So then we see proof that Masuda's younger heart is him talking to a dog and saying, how was your day? And then we come back. Peter Pan syndrome, am I right?

31:12Ronnie Karam: So then we cut back and she's like, I can't control a kid. I mean, what if they got, Oh, well, first Anastasia is like, I mean, he should have three kids right now. Doesn't he have kids? Why are we pretending Masoud doesn't have kids? He already does have kids. He's already done this. It's like, oh, poor Masoud, never had children. Oh, yes, he's got them. I believe they don't speak to him right now, but he's got them. So Stephanie's like, I can't control a kid. I mean, what if they go to school and they're bullied? What if they do drugs? What if they become like absolutely crazy? What if they want to poop on a plane?

31:46Ben Mandelker: i have not developed parent steph yet as a personality i'm just still working on nautical steph okay this is too much for me to do you know i just turned 40 this year and if i'm going to do it like i have to freeze my eggs right now she's like oh yes immediately yes you know you will be the best mom you will cause children to have so much therapy later in life and that's that's all a parent could ever want so go do this journey well it's funny you're saying that because

32:11Ronnie Karam: apparently the biggest problem I have in this group is my delivery. So let's talk about that. She goes, yeah, well, it's because you're a boss lady. That's why you're so bossy. You know, you're a boss lady like me, Anastasia, with the lipsticks.

32:26Ben Mandelker: You are like Fergie, you're bossy, bossy. But you're a businesswoman. You're surrounded by men and women. Women must be like men to be surrounded by men. She's like, yes, that's what I have been saying. And you have to act like this because if you show weakness, and you feel like you cannot get what's wrong. And they always say you are either a shark or you're the food and it's business. It's always one or the other. Okay, that's metaphor, Stephanie. Okay, that's what she says. You're the shark or the food. Yes, or something like that. If you have to deal with men, you have to be strong. You cannot show emotion.

33:00Ronnie Karam: It's like, yeah. Oh my God, thank you so much. Because these ladies, let me tell you what these ladies are going to do for you. They're going to make you softer. She's like, oh my God, that sounds great. this is real housewives has never turned anybody softer no no this show beats you to hell and then gets you paranoid about every little thing ever said and gets you searching reddit and online all day every day okay this is gonna make her insane and i'm here for the journey cheers i know

33:28Ben Mandelker: many by the way i also know many badass women in business who really like yeah in business it's, you know, like they, they, they get tough as nails and like, you just, you don't fuck with them, but it's not what they know how to actually talk to their friends. Like, like you could just can't keep relying on this excuse of like, I'm surrounded by men in business. I have to be tough in business. I have, when you're dealing with a fleet of 80 construction workers, you have to be tough. Like, that's fine. I'm not going to take that away. But you, like, if you, if you want to, if you want to pretend to me that you're so savvy in business and yet you can't figure out how to shift gears to deal with your friends are you

34:09Ronnie Karam: really that savvy then are you really yeah so then we go to the virgin cruise ship and everybody's getting out of their cars and getting on the ship and stuff and uh mary still's like all right for the next two days you're all virgins richard branson is a miracle worker all right even you

34:29Ben Mandelker: larsa all right five days ago we're all screaming and we're all screaming in spain no one's getting along but like call me crazy great time to go on a cruise a good dick fixes everything that's that's richard richard branson dick you see you know you know the the name richard often gets turned into the name dick and dick is also what you call a penis is everyone following my joke here no no

34:54Ronnie Karam: Oh my God. Thank God Stephanie's BJ is not involved in this trip. Okay. Hopefully this time around, we can have more respect for each other. You know, unlike the last time where I ditched, where I ditched a vacation, you know, a private plane early, I went to do something else, which was very respectful to her.

35:12Ben Mandelker: Stephanie's like, is there a way that we could divide up the screw ships? That way people can be isolated and shamed in our group. No. Okay. Oh,

35:20Ronnie Karam: I have one question before we take off. Are people allowed to poop here?

35:26Ben Mandelker: Do you have cruziket? Or is that just jet-a-kit that we have to be concerned with?

35:31Ronnie Karam: Okay, everybody. Nautical Steph is here. We can do this. So then we get the people who are like the, I guess, what do you call these people? They come on and they do.

35:46Ben Mandelker: It's like Julie from the love boat or whatever.

35:51Ronnie Karam: Greeters. They're greeters. This is an aggressive greeter. Okay, I will say that. I've never seen a greeter like this. I was like, wow, they really do party on this vote. That greeter was like, welcome to Virgin Cruise Lines. Yes, I've got short shorts, tall boots, and a cowboy hat, bitch. Get on here. Get the hell on here right now. It's like, oh, my God, that is an aggressively happy cruise director.

36:17Ben Mandelker: They're having a great time.

36:18Ronnie Karam: so um they larsa kind of gives them a look like what is happening on this cruise you're about to

36:27Ben Mandelker: party baby larsa's like wow they just get so excited when a famous person like me comes on board wow so uh they're like let's go bitches and like this will be the most epic cruise ever yes so then they go to this cruise and it really like it's like amazing i'm not even gonna lie i know i know we did a whole thing at the top of the episode but this is like authentic like it's really so cool i was really jealous so we see cutaways of the cruise and drinks being poured

36:58Ronnie Karam: on the bars like dun dun dun dun a big pool guest lounging women walking around the deck and they're like, oh my God, you guys, look at the skyline. This is incredible. What a crazy, incredible cruise line. That's Miami Alexia. Oh, yeah, yeah. I live there. I live in that place.

37:21Ben Mandelker: Yeah, so everyone, this is the maiden voyage of the resilient lady. That's why we're all here. Oh, wow. So they're like, woo, and they're like looking at the skyline. I swear to God, this show, I know I said every week, this show is so beautiful like this is they had this like sunset like orange sky the lights of miami the the water this like beautiful cruise ship i was like and again coming from going to the fleur-de-lis boutique in orange county with like emily and shannon this is we really need this this is like a very important okay i need to i need to see miami so kiki sees that lisa's

38:01Ronnie Karam: still wearing her ring and she's like is that the lenny ring you still wear that she's like on my middle finger though it's like that's not the same i mean i like it it just means nothing to me it's just a you know wedding finger from someone who i don't speak to anymore who i hate which is he was dead but it's not a different thing it's a diamond it's a time just holding on let me hold on let me hold on to the diamond please i don't think it's your finger well so adrian's gonna do that thing

38:27Ben Mandelker: where they're all having fun and Adriana's going to do that thing where she's like, I'm sad in the corner. So she's all glum. I mean, you're sitting here literally on a beautiful cruise ship looking at the gorgeous skyline of Miami and you're going to sit there and be like, oh, woe is me. I'm like, come on. Don't tell me when I'm allowed to be depressed. No, but this is that showy depression this is her being like oh remember when i was called old she's like i'm just tired nothing special just tired i pinched my nerve i get it actually i get i get her whole thing because

39:10Ronnie Karam: gertie comes over she's like girl come on what is wrong let's talk about it and she's like oh it's just been so intense she's like i know i'm just saying it's your birthday coming up i don't know why you want to deny it and pretend it's not happening she's like because there is ageism in this world and people when they find out your age they treat you different and so she's basically saying like she doesn't like to celebrate her birthday since she turned 40 because um you know when you get older as a woman it's you know you start feeling like you're losing your worth i mean i totally get that especially for extremely beautiful people you know who are yeah like when that starts to turn and you're not really it's kind of like an identity crisis you know Like you've always been given so much power because of one thing.

39:55Ronnie Karam: And then when that thing starts going away, it's like, well, what, what do I have? Am I worthy of anything beyond that? I mean, I totally get it.

40:04Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I think she's just having like a little pity party for herself in the corner. I'm not saying ageism isn't a thing. I'm not saying like, you know, it's sometimes getting older can be depressing, but I think in this case, I think she's just trying to like pull attention. So Gertie is like, um, hello. like this is the stereotype like no one's gonna do that to you okay she's like but there's a lot of stereotypes and so then adriana's like i've you know i've just you know i've been exchanged for a younger model twice you know so gertie is like gertie's like okay embrace it adriana your fucking beautiful life is ticking and i should be the one to tell you that's firsthand she's like oh i just feel the pressure of society i'm like what now like why is she all of a sudden going through this existential crisis.

40:52Ben Mandelker: I think it's that she wants to have something. I think she wants to do something big and special. And they're like, no, we want to go on a cruise instead.

40:59Ronnie Karam: No, I think her birthday is coming up and she's freaking out. I mean, I've seen it happen a lot. I'm friends with a lot of ladies, but I see it happen all the time. It's like, oh my God, am I worth it anymore? What is happening? Of course you are worth it, but I don't know. She probably doesn't have that French hooker she was dating or whatever anymore. and I don't know. I get it. People get melancholy on their birthdays, you know? Yeah, I guess so.

41:23Ben Mandelker: So, uh, then the, uh, horn blares and, uh, Marissa's like, all right, everyone come to my room. It's the rock star, sweet snacks and booze. Let's go. Cockies, cockies. So they go to this suite, which is, it has like a, it has, is that a hot, it has like a hot tub in it and everything. It was humongous. It was crazy.

41:44Ronnie Karam: Yeah. This was really big. had like guitars on the wall and a piano and like its own like kind of deck right yeah had its own deck and stuff and um a tub and a hot tub and he's like what the fuck there's a hot tub just sitting there there's more food in here i mean what the hell uh kiki's like well if anyone deserves a rock star suite if anyone deserves a rock star suit it would be me i got

42:08Ben Mandelker: my father to eat salmon like don't you mean sweet she goes uh sweet suit i don't know Wow. So Marisol's like, hey, everyone, how sweet is my sweet, right? I mean, after that, Radisson, right? Oh, God, garbage.

42:23Ronnie Karam: I was really on a roll today, this one.

42:28Ben Mandelker: So they've got all this, like, they've been nice, like, you know, order of spread laid out and everything. And Stephanie's like, oh, my God, oh, my God, the food, it all went down my boobs. Isn't that hilarious? Nautical Stephanie is having a hilarious time. Food goes down Nautical Stephanie's boobs. Okay, regular Stephanie, it stays on top. But Nautical goes right down.

42:43Ronnie Karam: That's why I don't show cleavage, because all the food just went down. And nautical Steph is, like, calm and cool and collected, and she doesn't care what falls on her boobs. Okay? Larsa must find so many snacks in there. Larsa must have, like, a buffet down there.

42:59Ben Mandelker: Well, obviously, yeah, okay, ladies. Obviously, before we left Spain, we all left quite divided. And I thought that night after the chaos in Plaza de España, that maybe we should do a little separate group. You know, we were so divided, and I thought the only way we can bring ourselves together is to do more divided things, right? So that's what we're going to do tonight.

43:18Ronnie Karam: I want to bring this group together by splitting everybody up to talk shit about each other so we have something proper to fight about tomorrow. Everybody got it?

43:28Ben Mandelker: It's called doing research. It's called scene prep, all right? So we're going to do half and half, and we're going to do lots of fun things around this boat.

43:36Ronnie Karam: and she's like yeah because in the plaza de españa that was so embarrassing by the way god you remember when alexia kept screaming don't fight in front of frankie and she was like covering that statue so weird really it was it was so embarrassing it was so bad oh my god you guys guess what we're here look at this beautiful city oh my god this is so beautiful it got us here so fast uh still miami honey oh i live there well look none of us are none of us are allowed back

44:05Ben Mandelker: in sevilla by the way no no because actually the commissioner dm me and said we're welcome anytime uh i'm pretty sure that was a jamba juice manager who messaged you because he messaged me too wait isn't jamba the same as sevilla okay pips you have to work on that of course the commissioner

44:25Ronnie Karam: is reaching out to larsa over dms i'll bet i'll bet he did um so we came up with a plan because we can't just sweep it under the wrong, right? So we're going to split up. So pips, cakes, jeans, stuff are going to the test kitchen, and the rest of us are going to go talk about you guys. But you know what? We're talking with the wrong people because these aren't even the people that we're fighting with. So we're like, why are we doing it like that? Let me do it this way, all right? This is how Dick wants it. What Dick wants, Dick gets.

44:59Ben Mandelker: Yeah, so, okay, we don't want any conflict. Okay, so this is an exercise in therapy. even when there's nothing therapeutic about this. We're just going to talk shit about each other. We're not going to sweep it under the rug. You know, the more I say that, the more this sounds like it's good for us. And we're just going to talk it out and we have some cockies. We're going to have to listen to each other in order to be better. Am I right? And by listen to each other, I mean, talk over, talk over, but in separate groups. That sounds good, right?

45:25Ronnie Karam: Well, I'm not going to risk going to cruise jail because there's like a prison in cruises and I'm not going to prison. Oh, that's just if you bring drugs. No, it's if you're unruly. All right, so don't be unruly. And don't do drugs. All right?

45:39Ben Mandelker: I will only accept cruise jail if we can isolate a member of our friend group in there. Are we allowed to do that? No? Damn it.

45:47Ronnie Karam: Are you allowed to move in cruise jail?

45:51Ben Mandelker: Can we do a 22-minute dance party in cruise jail? So the first group is going to be Julia, Lisa, Marisol, Alexia, and Adriana. And they're going to go to Wake. and then um julia and lisa arrive first and lisa's like you know what you're the first one here and i'm the second one here everyone else is late well guess what 12 years of showing up late just

46:13Ronnie Karam: went out the window because i was on time once look at me the new me on time that's right two for Lady.

46:25Ben Mandelker: Nautical Lisa is here. She's on time.

46:31Ben Mandelker: So they're all late, of course. So Marisol shows up and Lisa's like, thanks for joining us. And she was like, yes, you are forgiven to be 53 minutes late because you look so gorgeous. Marisol was 53 minutes late. That is really bad. Okay. You cannot, you can't come after monkey and then show up 53 minutes late in yourself.

46:53Ronnie Karam: Yeah. But as they point out, this is Lisa has been late for 90 ,000 years.

46:59Ben Mandelker: They're late one time, but 53 is a lot. My God. Well, but the worst part is that like Julia and Lisa were sitting side by side at a table. And so they had to sit side by side for like an hour, which is like not a, that's, that's a strange arrangement. you know like at that point i'd be like okay you know what i'm gonna sit across from me and julia i was like no but producers say we have to sit side by side so they're sitting there side by side for a whole hour making small talk and what what do lisa and julia have to talk about have they ever talked just the two of them alone is this the first time we've ever seen them alone

47:29Ronnie Karam: together i don't know what do you talk about with either one of them sitting there alone

47:35Ben Mandelker: side by side yeah they're playing a piano

47:42Ronnie Karam: oh well thanks for joining us guys because when you guys are late it's like cool and cute Marissa's like oh god well that's how you do it you smile and we giggle and we forget about it except for when we bring it up over and over season after season well no more giggles anymore with me though oh because you have a pattern you have a pattern with it

47:59Ben Mandelker: I love Alexia to say that you have a pattern so sorry so um so then they they're all just talking about that and marissa's like monkey shouldn't even be talking right now the amount of coupons and credits i have with tardiness at this point i mean that's gonna last me a lifetime so now we go to the other group of women kiki gertie

48:21Ronnie Karam: lars and stephanie at the test kitchen right and they're all late too kiki's the only one there waiting for them and um finally larsa comes and she's like you guys like the bootleg it's moving like a lot like like oh my god yes you know i'm used to like the boats that are like very still you mean your apartment yeah yeah you guys like i was walking on the deck and like one of the guys said oh my god get over here i might need to use you as a flotation device was that like a compliment

48:54Ben Mandelker: like larsa also i think she needs to go out in public more because she's like guys so we all

49:01Ronnie Karam: get our own tables yes you're in a restaurant i think she meant the i'll get their own chef or

49:08Ben Mandelker: something because she's like oh we don't like what like table like wait we all get our own table like and server like that's crazy like yeah i guess because you have your own bars and your

49:23Ronnie Karam: own bartender and your own your own uh chef or whatever yeah she says you get your own bar you

49:29Ben Mandelker: they do have like a little like setup there. And, and it's actually a cute little thing. And Kiki saying, it's like, it's a bummer because they are, they just have to be a small group and there'd be fun if they were like the whole big group. So Kiki is, you know, she's like, I just want the whole group to be there. And there she's like, I want to know from Larsa what she wants from Lisa. What does she need from Lisa? And what does Stephanie want from Alexia? So that way we can all grow together.

49:58Ronnie Karam: Yeah. like what do I do and Stephanie well the server comes over and Kiki's like we'll take everything so they do a shot and now Mary's soul is like alright well everyone's getting along it's good I'm glad I invited my only people that I liked so that was a good move alright let's make it fun alright listen you know I'm always about that and you fuckers aren't allowed to embarrass me and get banished from Dick's kingdom nothing's more fun than Dick am I right yeah

50:28Ben Mandelker: Kiki, are we doing the whole trip? Is that what's happening? Kiki said they're only going to do a half trip or whatever. I'm sorry. I thought it was the trip. They're doing the whole thing. The shot.

50:43Ronnie Karam: We're talking about shots. I was like... They just kicked Marcia off. They drove a rubber board halfway through. I'm sorry. The audience is controlling this boat. Richard Branson has asked that we throw Larsa overboard.

51:05Ben Mandelker: Okay, it's a shot. Okay, I got totally confused. Yeah, so doing shots and everything, and they're all having fun, and then Larsa starts waving a napkin in the air. And then the other women, Adriana finally joins them, and they greet Adriana and everything, and Marissa goes, oh, wow, Lisa likes it. You got the monkey check of approval.

51:29Ronnie Karam: She made it. I fell asleep. I'm not feeling great. Same, but you look amazing. Very, very classy. I know how difficult it is for Adriana to embrace birthday, but I don't know what is happening with her, with us in general. I just don't know. Well, you're a shitty friend to her, so that sucks. Yeah, you could maybe call her or ask her if you see her struggling with something. But I guess that's probably a little hard for you to do.

51:58Ben Mandelker: Go up to the deck. Go up to the deck and have a heart-to-heart. Seriously. But she's like, what is happening to her? I do not know. I'm like, you can just carve out some time to hang out with your friend and check in on her.

52:09Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So then waiters bring some food to the other table, to the other - The test kitchen. Test kitchen people. And Kiki's like, okay, well, listen, you and Lisa, like we spoke to you. We went, okay, we got her to and follow Marcus and then you guys can move forward. What else do you need? No, like, no, because, like, no, guys, like, no. She, like, said, like, really, like, hurtful, like, things to, like, me, like, you guys. Like, she said, like, she knows, like, I feel like the paparazzi that I hired to take Marcus's photos. Like, what? Like, what? Like, really? Like, I know a paparazzi that I can call and take a picture in the south of France, like, here, here, XYZ, like, this and that?

52:50Ronnie Karam: Like, what?

52:52Ben Mandelker: Like, what am I? Am I like the CIA? Like, am I like, am I like a CIA? Or as I call it, acai? I'm going to have like CIA in a bowl and be like a super fruit? I knew that like he was going to be like outside at a pool and doing like what? Like I'm supposed to just know that? You know what she is? She's like Coco for Cocoa Puffs like.

53:17Ronnie Karam: Yeah, like I'm not like that. Like it hurt me to like my bones, like for here to hear her say that I would do something like that. Like I'm capable. Like no one has ever like called me capable before you guys. So whatever.

53:30Ben Mandelker: So then we go back to wake and Alexis like, by the way, like Lisa, like you guys haven't spoken in months. Yeah. It's gotten really out of hand. I mean, like you let it go too far, too long. Okay. You disrespected her, you know, like I feel like instead of like, you know, like with, like with Jody, like, you know, when he texted her in that place, like he should not have done that. and she's like jody never did nothing wrong never she texted jody first but you know what

53:55Ronnie Karam: she's on only fans and she's probably talking to people's husbands so please don't pretend to be a victim wow didn't really have anything to do with the situation but it's a fun pot shot that was funny yeah she's like all he did was be friends with marcus so then we go back to the other group and lars is like yeah i would just like appreciate like it like if she was some have some like account like ability like like i have no problem of apologizing but like when i called her a bitch in her house like i owned up to it i was like hey i'm sorry i called you a bitch in your house like i shouldn't have called a bitch a bitch in her like bitch like house like

54:32Ben Mandelker: bitch well if she apologized to you then you guys can at least like try to take a step to move forward. My apology is here and her apology needs to be like up here. Okay? Which is funny because in life I'm up here and she's down here, Kelly Ben Simone. And Courtney's like, I suggest muzzles for both of them. You get a muzzle. You get a muzzle. That's right, honey. Muzzles that are goodified. Goodified muzzles for both of you. So back to the other group. Not a bad observation.

55:03Ronnie Karam: Mary's still saying, alright, why do we need to move forward so we can fix that? I just need to like leave Jody out of it. Well, Jody needs to leave himself out of it too. Because that's a problem, Lisa. Okay? Like, just accept it. It's like a problem.

55:17Ben Mandelker: Just accept it. Like, keep it between her and I. And Adriana's like, guys, we're going around in circles like the sun around the earth. Or the earth around the sun. Another year gone by.

55:29Ronnie Karam: We are going around in circles like I'm going around like circle of drain. Could we please?

55:36Ben Mandelker: like going around like circles like the ones that are growing bigger under my eyes

55:42Ronnie Karam: so um so they agree that they need to make up and put their egos aside and lisa and mary said well i don't think you're gonna be your best friend again because stephanie's our new best friend now so well i don't even like to throw that word around best friend best friend i mean what what's a best friend she's my best friend she's my but what are we five what are we on a playground? I mean, come on.

56:04Ben Mandelker: I feel like I'm on a playground all the time. Am I right? I'm on Dick's playground right now. Right, guys? Right, Dick? Right? No. So then back to the test kitchen, Kiki's like, Stephanie, why are you so quiet tonight? She's like, oh, well, I told you I'm nautical Steph tonight. I'm really making this happen. Like, I already can tell America loves this whole thing. Nautical Steph. Hilarious.

56:27Ronnie Karam: Nautical Steph is very demure and very mindful. She's chill. Okay? And I'm just concerned. And yeah, Gertie says, yes, she's so mindful, but I'm concerned as to how long nautical Steph might be with us, depending on the drama. We'll see. I don't know about nautical Steph. Jury's out on nautical Steph. You get a nautical Steph. You get a nautical. I don't know. I'll do it again.

56:48Ben Mandelker: I'll do it again. Stephanie is pretending to have introspection here because she says, like, you know, my sisters say I have bad delivery and now my friends have bad delivery. So I'm going to try really hard to improve my delivery. You're not going to try really hard. You're just going to acknowledge those things as like some sense of immunity, but you're just going to still be the same land stuff as you are nautical stuff.

57:08Ronnie Karam: The delivery can improve, but the package kind of still sucks. Like, I think you should work on the package.

57:12Ben Mandelker: Yeah. The delivery is the least of the problems. Yeah. Yeah. If you still get poop in a box, it doesn't matter what time it arrives. It's still poop in a box.

57:21Ronnie Karam: So she says that she's like, I mean, look, if there's constructive criticism, I'm open to hearing it, but I'm not accepting that because my delivery was bad. I was wrong for what happened in Spain. Okay, nautical Steph has left the building. She's gone. Where did nautical Steph go? She's gone.

57:39Ben Mandelker: Nautical Steph has gone overboard. So, Stephanie, take your shot. She was hilarious. Stephanie, take your shot, like. Take your shot, like. Are you going to take the rest of yours? Come on, do the shot. So now it's like two hours and five tequila shots later, and we're in Marisol's suite and Julie and Alexia and Marisol are FaceTiming with Larsa from Marisol's room and Alexia, she's like oh, so are you in bed? What are you showing me? Are those your soft legs? I need to take photos for OnlyFans so I can pay the bills like. Legs for OnlyFans like. So then Marisol's like, Pips, Pips, did you have some shots tonight?

58:22Ben Mandelker: Because you are very frisky tonight, Pips. Come on, look at her. Look how frisky Pips is.

58:26Ronnie Karam: She's like, yeah, I'm making like my OnlyFans video. I'm going to put out my boobs right now. She just pulls out her boobs on FaceTime. I'm like, oh my God, I can't believe she did that right now on the FaceTime. That's crazy.

58:40Ben Mandelker: I love Adriana. Alexia cups the phone to hide it from the camera. And then she looks at the camera like, oh my God, you're not getting this, are you? Oh my God. She's like, don't look. Don't look at the boob. Don't look at the boob.

58:53Ronnie Karam: So now the next morning, Stephanie's skipping down the hallway in her derobics outfit. to go to Marisol's suite. So she's like, oh my God, this room is so nice in the daytime because sometimes things are beautiful in the night, but they're not in the morning.

59:07Ben Mandelker: No, that's true. I mean, it's like me, right? Okay, next stop, the cat skills. I feel like we should just lay out here and just skip the exercise entirely. She's like, no, Marisol, no. I got these spandex from Canada. We're going to wear them. She's like, okay, well, I hate exercise. Like, well, what is this? Like, I look fat in this. I'm not going to come out. I'm not going to do it. Come on, Stephanie. Stop it.

59:29Ronnie Karam: I don't hate anything more in the world than I hate exercise. I will not do it. I would rather starve to death than do exercise. And I like that. Stick to your guns, girl. Stick to your guns. So let's get to what we're really here to talk about. Fighting with dinner. So dinner. So Marisol's like, yeah, our dinner was gone. And we're just talking to Lisa about fixing things with Larsa. Yeah, well, we had the same conversation with Larsa. And we obviously got to the topic of Alexi and I. So it's my personality. Like, I go from zero to 100 because I have no idea what the hell I'm saying because I get so angry.

1:00:09Ronnie Karam: Oh, okay, God. So you're not responsible for anything that you're saying because you get angry? Is that what you're saying?

1:00:17Ben Mandelker: Well, look, I was very, very, very heartbroken about what happened that night of dinner. and I was like clearly distraught. It was not nautical Steph. It was distraught Steph and I was really upset and I was crying and it was rough on me and so then she's talking about the dinner.

1:00:34Ronnie Karam: Can I just point out nothing happened to Stephanie at that dinner?

1:00:38Ben Mandelker: Nothing. Nothing. It wasn't about her at all.

1:00:40Ronnie Karam: She just ran out crying to like have a scene. She's ridiculous. Yes. I was so distraught

1:00:46Ben Mandelker: and she's going to act like it was she was distraught from the dinner where nothing happened to her that that's why she was acting over the top with the plane back at the hotel lobby i'm like that is not really that does not make it doesn't

1:00:58Ronnie Karam: make sense like i can't have people fighting on this show my plane so she's like well and when i got into the car with you i thought it was a safe space and she's like oh there are no safe spaces in this group you never know we're gonna talk shit about you no matter what happens all right

1:01:15Ben Mandelker: yeah well i mean but in my mind i thought for sure like larsa and marisol they're gonna be like my safe space. Like when I got on that bus, like on the way to the airport, truly, I was like, wait, wait, why are Alexia and Marisol like not coming? The safe space, right? Don't we have safe space? And then we see flashback to that whole fiasco. And Stephanie's like, nobody told me that you guys were mad at me. Okay. Marisol goes, well, I'm not really mad at you. I really like you. And I want to like you for you. You just, you don't have to offer me anything. I don't know how much that costs. I don't want to know how much it costs, you know, just put me on the plane and

1:01:49Ronnie Karam: say get me the dick right well i'm sorry that it has come across like i dangle my stuff because that was never my intention you know and i don't remember saying what the cost was i think it was larsa you know who probably heard it from me when i said what the cost was but the point of it is julia was the one who said alexia and marisol feel like if they break one of your rules you're gonna leave them stranded and she goes well you know i had a list you know i know how you love a

1:02:16Ben Mandelker: list i do love this i do love this list definitely yeah list definitely loves this yeah i just i didn't know it was so bad that you guys didn't want to that you guys didn't want to feel a certain way that like you'd rather just like not get on it's like well that was me that was me who didn't want to get on because like i'm the one who didn't want to go and then i said to alexia i was like you can go i mean i'll stay behind i mean what am i just your side can you just leave me in the dust i go to everything you go to you want to stay back with me like no no pressure bro but like later on i was like you know you haven't had a good day here and like you want to stay behind with me we can walk around sevilla you know let's get some fresh air let's do some shopping let's go to let's go to subway over there again you know see what their footlongs are like here in sevilla you know and she's like yeah okay i'll stay with you that's all it was so now stephanie

1:02:58Ronnie Karam: is not really getting a fight for marisol because marisol's like very kind of nicely sticking to her guns she's like i'm not taking back anything that i said she's like i'm not taking back anything i said about you and i'm not taking back the fact that i'm not going to apologize to you for not going on your fucking plane so i don't know what you want from me but she's saying it a very nice way so stephanie's not getting her fight so she's like okay well that's great then julia should have said that but julia said to me in front of the whole bus that you said i'm bossy and that if you if anyone breaks the rules you're gonna leave them stranded and she's like well i mean marisol doesn't really say this but you did say that stephanie like you were being bossy and you were dangling the plane and you were gonna kick people off so why are you gonna try and make it turn?

1:03:43Ronnie Karam: Why are you going to make it turn now that this is all Julia's fault for how she relayed the information? It's not. The information was relayed properly. You're an asshole and you're dangling the old man ball plane over people's heads. And they don't want to put up with that shit. What are you not hearing?

1:03:59Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I mean, you, the words came out of your mouth that you said, we'll leave them behind and they can drive as a three hour drive. Now Marisol, she should have said, don't be like that. That's not how we act in this group. You can't offer a flight and then say people will be left behind. Marisol instead just was like, okay, and then just doesn't show up the next day. So Marisol is also being very passive aggressive. Stephanie committed the crime, but Marisol, I think, was being kind of, I don't know what it is. Is it passive aggressive, fake, whatever it is. But Marisol could have also just been like, hey, lady, you're new to this group, but we don't do that with our cast members, unless it's Monk.

1:04:36Ben Mandelker: So Marisol goes, well, I was worried to, you know, Alexia, you know, you would have another pfft, and then we'd be stranded, and then that was on the list. Listen, I knew you weren't going to like it that we stayed behind. We didn't get a chance to talk about it, because, you know, we never get a chance to talk to you, and everything blew up in La Plaza, and then I was going to tell you, you know, as Larsa would say, X, Y, and Z, and I didn't have a problem. Like, I like you. I want to be friends with you, okay? Let's have a new start, Mighty Mouse, new start, new start.

1:05:02Ronnie Karam: And it's just funny because Stephanie's just sitting there blinking at her like, this woman is not giving me an inch here. She was not budging, but she was saying it very nice. And Stephanie just blinks. So finally, Marisol is just like, all right, all right. You know what? New start, Mighty Mouse. She goes, okay, well, new start, Mighty Mouse. And so they hug. But then we see eight hours later. And they're in a mudroom. And Alexi is like, just so you know, Marisol had way more other things that really bothered Marisol. Okay, there was like a whole list.

1:05:34Ben Mandelker: I just love like Marisol is so loyal to Alexia, but Alexia just like chucks Marisol under the bus. And then it's like, and then the, yeah. And, and Stephanie's like, and then like now, then the next day and Stephanie's saying like, I feel like Marisol is a jealous demon who disguised herself as a very loyal friend. And I know I'm going up, I know what I'm going up against now. And I have a message for you. The message is, if you're going to come for me, you better hit a bullseye because when it's my turn, I don't miss.

1:06:04Ben Mandelker: oh my gosh fun times fun times put these ladies on a boat and it's always gonna be a wild time um thank you everyone for listening we appreciate you and uh definitely tune in to a crappy hour later tonight and we'll catch you on the next episode bye everyone Bye. Bye.

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