#2996 RHOLondon Part 2: Dental Damned

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1:36Ben Mandelker: Watch what happens. Watch what crap it. Guess what happens when there's so bad it happens. It's a bunch of crap. Oh, well, you don't need to crap it.

1:48Ronnie Karam: Who cares what happens when there's so much that crap it's? Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crap It's. This is part two.

1:59Ben Mandelker: Oh, now we go to Karen. And Karen is this drop-dead gorgeous woman with also a drop-dead gorgeous daughter named Javanna. No relationship to Carvana. And Javanna's like, wow, it's a really lovely day today. She's like, oh, on days like this, I think about global warming. She's like, thanks. It's really nice, mom. Thanks, mom.

2:21Ronnie Karam: Honestly, you know, spring is coming, but it's a bit too soon. I know, it just makes me worry. Worry. The world is getting so, so hot. I'm going to need to buy bigger air conditioners. She's like, well, you've also been in Jersey, mom, so you've got good weather, okay? We've had gray weather here, so let me enjoy the weather. Enjoy the weather. We're just all dying very, very soon is all I'm saying.

2:43Ben Mandelker: Well, the good thing about this is vitamin D. Hold on. Okay, here we go. We're going in. Okay, we're going in. So they're at this townhouse. They're pushing the door. They finally get into it. And Karen tells us, my name is Karen Lodrick-Peace, and I'm originally from Jamaica. And I moved here in my 20s to study fashion, and I met my husband here. And we have three beautiful children, Jaren, Javanna, and Jolan.

3:08Ronnie Karam: Lots of J's. Really love the letter J. Love the letter, Jay. So they finally get to this house. They're gutting this house and redoing it all for themselves. And they've got a million houses. We see London Townhouse, London Pieta Terre, Jersey Home, Jersey Property, Staffordshire Home. Damn, that's a lot. And we find out they have those because Jeremy had this house way before we met. My husband is a former owner of West Bromwich Albion Football Club. Before Jeremy sold the football club, he moved to Jersey. So now I have homes all over the UK.

3:48Ben Mandelker: So they're walking through this area that is, they're walking through this construction site, this enormous, enormous townhouse. Like it looks like a museum in there. It is so big. At one point they're up like on like another story looking down. I was like, this is huge. It's huge. So she says, they're talking about how they're renovating the house. And she's like, other girls ask for jewelry. I ask for property. So Jayvana's like, mom, there's like gaps, mom. No, there's loose. It's loose. Mom, it's loose. That looks loose. That looks loose. That looks loose. Jayvana starts to freak out. I think she thinks her mom's going to go like crashing through the floor or something like that.

4:24Ronnie Karam: Before we had five floors, basement, ground floor, first floor, second floor, third floor. that's five floors right oh wait so now we're renovating we're gonna have a sixth floor it's six right because five plus one is six like oh my god i can't how are you this rich yes five

4:44Ben Mandelker: plus one is six so basically the world is not fair yeah they're basically karen's saying how the kids are going to get their own little self-contained flat inside this place that because they need to be in their own space. But it's just going to be a small portion of it. And she's saying how in London, space is everything. The property market is very expensive, but this area is on another level. Joan Collins lived around the road for me. And Margaret Thatcher used to live down the road for me as well. And someone else popular from the 80s probably lived around me as well. She's like, here's some people from 1984 who lived in this neighborhood once 40 years ago.

5:25Ronnie Karam: So they're talking about the jacuzzi and the sauna and the steam room and the cold plunge. And she goes, yes, and that's the pool there. So on all the walls, we're going to have marble and textured fabric. And the daughter's like, yeah, are you going to learn to swim so you can be in the pool? Because you're going to have a pool and you can't swim. She's like, shut up. Shut your face. So now we go to Juliette. And she's like, oh, my gosh, now that was a pretty horse. Let's go horse riding. So she's meeting her friend. What's her face? Amanda at the horse place. And she's meeting the horse. And she really is just like she is to humans, even to the horses.

6:04Ronnie Karam: She's like, oh, look at this horse. You're the most gorgeous horse I've ever seen in my life. What a big boy. Hello, darling. God, the most handsome boy in the entire world.

6:15Ben Mandelker: No one's as handsome as you. I remember I came to boarding school here. And they're like, I want to do horse riding. and they made me do dressage. And I was like, I want to go. I just want to get on that horse. I grew up like a true Aussie bareback all day long. Like literally the first time I really properly rode was I was like four and a half years old. I jumped on the back of a Bromby. Okay. And that Bromby was Tata. I mean, this is a real Jilly Roo Bromby right here, which by the way, a Bromby is a horse that hasn't broken into you. And that horse just took off. And I hung on for dear life, bumping around, hanging on Jilly Roo type.

6:47Ben Mandelker: And yeah, this is the best time of my life. This Bromby. I'm like, wow, I always want to have nothing but Bromby. okay and bb but going like this so anytime on a horse i want to just like take off and usually bareback i mean i you know what i want i just want lots and lots of time barebacking and the fact that we can't ride like that in hyde park is just like so upsetting let's be honest so amanda

7:08Ronnie Karam: comes and julia tells us amanda now that's a force to be reckoned with i love that she's so bold like the other day she called me she was doing this glam shoot and she's like i was born for this and i said you are you're so gorgeous there's no one more gorgeous the entire planet than you amanda here she comes right now amanda you're so gorgeous you look so beautiful i've never seen

7:35Ben Mandelker: anyone so gorgeous i love that juliette's you know prime example of amanda being bold is amanda saying, I was born for this doing a glam shoot. She's so bold. What a bold take.

7:53Ronnie Karam: So they're going to ride in Hyde Park and Amanda's like, I can't believe this stable is even still here. I mean, it's been here for decades. Hyde Park stables. Who knew that would last?

8:04Ben Mandelker: I know, right? Tally ho. Okay. So they start riding their horses and you know, like Amanda is like, wow, look at us going so fast. Now I know what it was like for you to be a child barebacking on that grumpy of yours. The wind is in my hair. You know, for her, this is high-speed horse racing. They're strolling along alongside the pond.

8:26Ronnie Karam: Part of control fast. Oh, so Amanda's like, oh, the royal parks have always had roots in the monarchy, which I just love. Yes, monarchy. Love it. Love riding along the monarchy, feeling the monarchy blowing through my hair. Oh, God. I want to bear back the monarchy how about that how about that may I be so bold as to bear back the monarchy oh yeah

8:52Ben Mandelker: I love how bold you are do you know that all swans are royal property that's right they are god bless the monarchy I love the birds that they own she's like yes and I decided that Gertrude needs to meet a husband and this is where we learn about that that stuffed swan Gertrude that's behind her in her confessional

9:10Ronnie Karam: yeah she's like oh I just love go through 200, 400 years old, something like that. You know, I was just actually hunting. I was actively hunting. You know what that is? That's where you hunt not sitting on a couch. You actually walk around and hunt, which was quite interesting. And I saw one, Julian Chinchester, but he was just so aggressive. And he had his wings out like this and his head up. And I thought, oh, I can't have that in my drawing room. I need to kill something with a better personality. No one wants to kill a murderous one.

9:42Ben Mandelker: And Amanda's like, well, I've got a taxidermist if you need one, which is the exact sort of line I want to hear when I tune in to The Real Housewives of London.

9:52Ronnie Karam: Darling, all right, you're, so Julia's like, oh, you know, I got the, you do the most, I'm sorry, I think we messed up who's saying this, but she's like, oh God, thank you so much for inviting me for this gorgeous party thing. Your invitations are amazing, darling. Just gorgeous. It's the most gorgeous invitations I've ever seen. But, you know, you do give the most invitations. I mean, I want to be one of the most invited couples out there socially, you know. And Juliet's like, who are you talking about? And Amanda's like, well, my last husband. We were running around the world, invited to everything and entertaining.

10:29Ronnie Karam: I mean, we were on six super yacht trips within the space of three months and one year. I mean, it was crazy. and then I just felt like all of that stopped when I uncoupled. No one wants just single, you know, future billionaire empire owners at their parties.

10:46Ben Mandelker: Yes, it's tough being a skincare maven, because after my divorce I was very, very hurt and upset. The amount of times I cried into that nameless woman's shoulder who opened the door for me in my house. Oh, goodness, it was countless. But as you know, I was grieving for quite a long time, and then I was dating a pop star, Andrew Ridgely from Wham! I don't know if you know that. Don't fall off that horse, by the way, otherwise you're never going to dance again.

11:14Ronnie Karam: Let me tell you, if you want to stuff a good swan, Andrew Ridgely would be a good choice. Am I right, ladies? But men have always fallen from the sky into my life, just landed in front of me. Pop stars, the stars who do pop, just regular men who enjoy pop singing very well at the pop-style quality level. So I just don't see any reason why that won't happen again. Do you? Anybody? Anybody? No? No, Swan? You're dead, Swan. That Swan just raised its leg. Kill the Swan. Kill the Swan.

11:46Ben Mandelker: You know, I'm grateful for my journey. I just wish my journey was via super yacht instead of horse. And, you know, but the last piece of the puzzle, of course, would be a fabulous man to drop in and whisk me off into the sunset. God, I love celebrating International Women's Day. Only I had a man.

12:06Ronnie Karam: I can't wait till I have a man and won't have to celebrate International Women's Day anymore. But this is going to be a good party. Until then, party on, Garth. So now we go to Panthea, who's shopping with her friend Katie, who is the most dour person on the show. And I need every scene to have Katie in it. Because she just looks at everybody like, really?

12:27Ben Mandelker: Katie is disgusted by this entire thing. So she's like, by the way, what time do you call this, by the way? And she's like, excuse me, I'm always on time. And she's like, not today, you're bloody not. You're bloody late, Panthea. Get in here. But the roads are closed. Well, so is my patients. So they start shopping.

12:48Ronnie Karam: Katie was making me laugh, even shopping. She goes, all right, look, here, I've got a spring palette. I just need springy things.

12:57Ben Mandelker: but for the party what are you just gonna wear are you gonna wear long are you gonna wear long

13:02Ronnie Karam: to the party yes i've got long of course i'm gonna wear long what else would i do trust me you need me in long all right so they're having fun and laughing around the store and panthea's like i didn't like all this gg in your face it's kind of rapper style look at all those boobs shoved in people's faces i can't do that honestly i've shopped so much in my lifetime that now going shopping is a chore. I mean, I spent$140 ,000 in one go in Harrods, which back then was equivalent to shopping 300-something thousand now. I mean, I literally took that Amex and I said, cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching.

13:37Ronnie Karam: What an idiot. I should have taken that money and bought an apartment and been renting it out or something like that.

13:43Ben Mandelker: Anyway, so don't mind if I spend about£140 ,000 right now on this dress? Okay, great. So Kitty's like, so now who's going to this bloody thing that you're dragging me to tonight, television. I'm mortified already. Is this going to be even shown on the Beeb? No? So Panthea's like, well, I presume Juliet's going, but to be honest, because they're good friends, right? Did you get the invite, by the way? Did you get invited? Or are you just a sad person tagging along? No, I got the invitation. Okay, I got it. Okay, I don't wear it long for nothing. I'm a proper invited woman.

14:16Ronnie Karam: She's like, oh, unbelievable. I mean, the flowers in the box, the whole invite, because we didn't even mention what the invites were. or I guess we're seeing it now, where they're receiving these invites. They're these big black boxes, and you open them, and there's tissue paper wrapped around gorgeous roses and an invitation that's very classy. So Juliet gets hers, and then we go back to the horses where Amanda is giving Juliet hers. Yeah, so she's like, oh, my God, this is the most beautiful invitation I've ever seen. Oh, invitation, you're the most gorgeous thing I've ever seen in my life. as anyone else needs such a gorgeous invitation.

14:53Ronnie Karam: Can I take this invitation to lunch? Do you think this invitation would like to sit with me at lunch? No? All right. I've just been turned down by an invitation.

15:01Ben Mandelker: Hold on. Let me just read this beautifully written invitation because the prose that you selected is just so special. I mean, you just have such a word, a way with words. You're so bold, both in what you're saying and how you write it. Okay. Everyone, this is what she wrote. You are invited to Champagne Caviar Celebration for International Women's Day. I mean, take my breath away already. That was just absolutely beautiful, Amanda Caroline.

15:22Ronnie Karam: I mean, you're so Shakespearean. I might need to name one of my children after you. Am I right? That's just gorgeous. I want the poetry of your face on the invitation. I mean, doesn't that just make everyone, what a gorgeous invitation. Look at this beautiful face on this invitation. Because her invitation is Amanda being like, oh, come to my party. With like a lipstick. As is everything in her life.

15:45Ben Mandelker: International Women's Day, it's an opportunity to come together to celebrate each other and think about the men that we could have someday if we are so lucky I love hosting I love doing birthday parties and by hosting I mean bossing around all the women that are names I don't really quite know just yet but they do a very lovely job of dusting things any excuse for a party really in my house I will do it

16:07Ronnie Karam: I've invited all the girls, my inner circle Nessie, Karen, Panthea you know, people like that and Julia's like, oh love her She's got such a good energy, Panthea. I love Panthea. Let me just get that on the record right now. I love Panthea. What a wonderful energy person. But you know she hates her because this is the first person Juliet's not like, gorgeous, Panthea, most gorgeous person on earth.

16:33Ben Mandelker: I know. And I love Amanda, this question that Amanda asks. She goes, so you know her really well or quite well or quite well or really well? Which one is it? I love it.

16:44Ronnie Karam: Is she a quite or was she a really? Well, quite a bit. I know her quite a bit. Oh, really? Because that wasn't really one of the options. It was quite well, really well. Well, but quite a bit. Oh, my God, you hate this bitch, don't you? Well, you know, back in the day when Annabelle's first opened, Panthea and I met on the social scene like six or seven years ago. We'd see each other at fashion shows and I'd say, darling, you're so gorgeous. I mean, she's so much fun. What a bundle of energy. she's got the gift of gab that one I like that about her all of her gabbing that she does talkie talkie gabby gabby who doesn't love Juliet

17:22Ben Mandelker: yes you know Panthea she just gabs and gabs even when she's not really supposed to be gabbing I mean people will be like shut up you're really speaking out of place now but she just gabs and gabs don't we all love that about her so then we go to Panthea who's talking to Katie and Panthea's like she's like you know Juliet Juliette. So she wears a fake and she goes, darling, it's real. That's like, I can tell, I can so tell that that's fake. I know I shouldn't go on and on about that, but should I go on and on? Kitty's like, absolutely. She's like, okay, well, fine. But I just want to tell you a story.

17:54Ben Mandelker: So Juliette and I had a mutual friend who was a dentist. This dentist one day calls me and we're chatting. And I said, tell my silly son who's going to New York tomorrow that his brace has been broken. Can you hurry up and fix it? And she said, yes, let him come tomorrow and I'll do it. And he goes in there and my son comes home and he goes, it's not fixed. And I said, what do you mean it's not fixed? And he goes, she didn't have the glue. So she went on and she looked at my mouth and she said, well, let me see. And oh yeah, you need six or seven fillings. What?

18:22Ronnie Karam: Yes. And literally the next day I called her up and I'm like, listen, first of all, you didn't address the problem, which was the glue. You go and give all these fillings, but oh, he needed them. Oh, I went fair enough. I'd like to see the x-ray. Oops. Didn't have time to do an x-ray. Really? So you were just guessing about the fillings then? Were you just guessing about the feelings then? It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

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20:18Ben Mandelker: Results based on a January 2026 analysis of 14 ,203 Noom GLP-1 RX program members who logged weight over a 40-week period. Higher app engagement was associated with greater weight loss at 16 weeks. First of all, I think they should just be so happy that someone wants to give fillings. Okay. Because British dentistry does not have a great reputation. Second of all, what is the story with this glue? You've got a broken braces and then you're like, I need, is it like the one, the metal things fall off the tooth? Do people even use those? I thought it's all like Invisalign. Now I was a little confused about the initial issue that her son was having.

20:51Ronnie Karam: And then the kid goes in there and you know that you're supposed to fix her braces, but you don't have the glue. That's weird. And then you just do fillings without x-rays. yeah it's pretty weird does not make sense yeah this all sounds fishy so um pantheon's like yes so then you know um also butthead over there knows her and so she took the dentist side and she took the girl's side and that girl did so much to my son's teeth i mean where's your loyalty for

21:18Ben Mandelker: god's sake i mean could there be anything more offensive than trying to make someone's teeth hole. I was just absolutely gobsmacked by it all. I was very hurt by Juliet because loyalty for me and friendship is everything. And considering I introduced the two of them, Juliet never once picked up the phone and said, why are you not talking to the dentist? She took her side and never talked to me. You know, you don't do that. I didn't expect that from her.

21:44Ronnie Karam: Oh, how does she not call me up and say, Panthea, you know what happened to try and sort it out? But she didn't. And she called me, oh, your friend owns this shop. Can I go and borrow of 3 ,000 pounds of clothes because I want to take it to Australia. Okay, she did that. You know, a couple of weeks later, I see her at a party and I went, listen, we need to talk about the dentist situation. I mean, darling, she's darling, we're at a birthday party. We cannot bring this up here. That's not the time and place. So we've never actually talked about it face to face. Never talked about the dentist. What kind of friend is that?

22:14Ronnie Karam: I mean, ever since Teethgate, Julia's been fake with me every soiree. Well, yeah, lady, because she's got some crazy lady chasing her around wanting to fight over a dentist. That's crazy.

22:25Ben Mandelker: And Panthea already elevating this to teeth gate. I feel like it's a one-sided controversy. Controversy. I feel like Panthea is the only one who actually cares about this, about this dentist, because everyone's like, hello, I'm on television, and I choose not to be associated with a working class dentist. Thank you very much. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not friends with dentists. No, no, no. I'm friends with fabulous people.

22:45Ronnie Karam: She's like, well, I'm going to call it out. You know, when I get angry, I'm like a child, and I'm going to be a child right now because I'm very angry about it, very upset about it. This other chick's like, okay, well, can't wait to hang out with you at the party. It's going to be amazing. So when we go back to Horsies, and Amanda's like, so what I'm getting at, you don't hang out with her much now, because you know her quite a bit. Is that what you said? Quite a bit. She's like, oh, well, you know, we know a lot of people on the out, you know, like socially together. So the bigger part is, yes, but honestly, I've been so busy in the past year, our paths haven't really crossed.

23:21Ronnie Karam: just a bit just a bit

23:24Ben Mandelker: I've had so many things to do like going to good parties with upper cross people and not idiots so I just haven't seen Panthea there but next time I go to a Marmite party I'm sure I'll see her there behind the velvet rope waiting to get in so Panthea's like

23:40Ronnie Karam: I just feel that there's unfinished business and I'm going to get her and she needs to admit that she was wrong and she shouldn't have taken the dentist's side

23:49Ben Mandelker: Katie goes you've just got to have a dad with her don't you? Katie is setting Panthea up Katie's like I don't care about Panthea at all and I don't care about this Australian so might as well watch them fight

23:59Ronnie Karam: I think Katie's having that moment where you're on a new housewife show no one really knows each other that well but you're all like okay we're going to stick together right? Yeah okay let's go shoot at the store and then you realize right away that the person you buddied up with is insane and you're like oh never mind Yeah, she's like, oh God, what do I do now? So let's see. It's the day of Amanda's International Women's Day event.

24:24Ben Mandelker: Yes, there's caviar coordination happening and Nessie arrives and she has the cake. And Amanda's like, I know Nessie through Juliet and she's everything I like in a woman. So charming, so elegant, so offering a free cake. Very hardworking, so bright. She ticks all the boxes.

24:42Ronnie Karam: I don't know if you've heard but in this town we really love when things tick boxes you'll hear that about 10 times in this episode and she really ticked that box

24:52Ben Mandelker: yes box ticker she literally arrived with a giant box with a cake in it I mean if you're not ticking a box at least have a cake in it oh well this looks absolutely phenomenal I can't wait to not eat any of it oh it's just so chic and isn't you know she's made cakes for all the royals so if it's good enough for the royal family it's definitely good enough for someone who once dated Andrew Ridgely of Wham, if I say so myself.

25:14Ronnie Karam: Oh, I'm so excited. So this is a Lambeth cake, five layers of vanilla sponge with a pink icing and some berry compote just for you, my love. Oh, it's so beautiful. So Nessie knows her through the London social scene. They have tons of mutual friends and she's got a total girl crush on Amanda. She's like amazed by Amanda. And we know they don't know where that, She doesn't know her that well because she's never been to this house. So she gets a little tour of the house. And we go into the office, which is just covered in Amanda's face. I mean, it's Amanda's face everywhere. And Nessie's like, this is amazing.

25:51Ronnie Karam: Oh, my God. She's got her own clinic behind a secret door. I want my own clinic behind a secret door.

25:59Ben Mandelker: This is where the magic happens. Okay, Nessie, you could be part of this world. Come into the clinic, the Amanda Caroline Clinic. This could all be yours. did you enjoy this tour? And Nessie's like, oh my goodness, she sort of lives in a fairytale world. You know, she lives in a Barbie dream house and she drives a Bentley and she's a businesswoman and she wears a pussy bow and she's like Snow White and the Seven Dwarves if you were to replace the dwarves with little personal assistants and servants who would just go future-hipp out in the corners and you think you see one out of the corner of your eye and you look and it disappears around the corner.

26:31Ronnie Karam: It's just basically everything that Snow White wanted, you know, lymphatic drain massage right at your own home.

26:40Ben Mandelker: by the way how is how is it that none of these women have a daughter named lambeth when she said this is a lambeth cake i was like that's gonna be the next child that shows up this is my daughter lambeth named after the cake lambeth ophelia saturn belgravia don't put it past

26:57Ronnie Karam: um so um then everyone's getting ready for this party it's like the typical housewives getting ready scene and karen's on the phone with her husband and she's just back on the scene so she's very excited a lot of gossip and amanda's hosting an international women's day soiree and panthea is getting ready and um she's trying to get an outfit together but everyone who works for panthea hates her because her her makeup artist cookie is like um that outfit is giving me ABBA. Yeah, I wouldn't wear that.

27:31Ben Mandelker: And Amanda's getting ready with her stylist Arabella and you know, of course there's like already two Arabellas on the show and they're like, she's getting ready there and yeah, it's all the fun stuff. So now it's later in the day and now Amanda's doing the last looks at the party, which I love because she's just walking from room to room and she's bossing around everyone just like, this loo needs to be checked every 15 minutes because it'll be conagency and dust that surface. Okay, this table got dirty again. Who touched the table? Which one of you? I can see those are poor fingerprints. You can tell they have a different color.

28:03Ben Mandelker: Please wipe them away. Wipe away your dirt smudges. Okay, no touching on the table.

28:07Ronnie Karam: Brush the carpet on the stairs. Brush the carpet on the stairs. That would look nice. Do that. It's like, damn.

28:14Ben Mandelker: Let me ask the brushing staircases. Always be brushing. Always be brushing. Okay, did we check for under the banister? Has that been polished? Under Bannister must be polished. Come on, let's get with it, girls. Chop, chop.

28:27Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So now a kilo of caviar, guys, is$14.50, which is almost$2 ,000 USD. And Karen comes. And she's like, I know Amanda for a while. We're in the same social scene. We go to parties. But before I met her, I used to see her walking with her daughter up and down the street. And she would be like, you know, so well posed and her shoulders up. You know, you look twice at her. You look twice at her. and this one of my first parties since being back in London and it's just so good to be back. It's good to be back. I'm ready to mingle, to get to know Amanda's friends and have a good time.

29:03Ben Mandelker: So they're all mixing and mingling and saying hello and, you know, Amanda's... Your dress is so pretty.

29:10Ronnie Karam: No, your dress is so pretty.

29:12Ben Mandelker: It's a Zimmerman. It's a Zimmerman. Oh, it's a Zimmerman. It's a Zimmerman.

29:17Ronnie Karam: So now Karen, so now Juliette comes and she's like, oh hello everybody oh my god what a gorgeous place with gorgeous faces i've never seen anyone so gorgeous in my life so who else is coming to this darling well you know only panthea so did we remember how well you know panthea was it quite well or a bit well and nancy's like oh i can't wait to meet her and then not talk to her oh it's gonna be wonderful

29:45Ben Mandelker: so by the way this party is like a very posh party there's caviar everywhere it's it's like It's very, very wealthy and exclusive. But the entire time, I just felt cramped. Because as beautiful as this townhome is, there just seems to be all these random glass door and dividers and everything. And I just felt like everyone was just sort of cramped together. And I'm just imagining these roving cameras and people not being able to move. So I was like, I felt uncomfortable. I felt claustrophobic during it.

30:13Ronnie Karam: Yeah, it was a cramped party. And there were also a lot of people there. Well, I mean, it looked like it because it was cramped. so Panthea is coming late and she's like oh my god I'm so tense coming into this party I just wanted to enjoy myself it's a national women's day I mean what is more fun than that you know my husband told me don't give Juliet the time of day do not react do not come out with everything but I don't know maybe I have to say something but I probably won't but maybe I will and then we see her like stumble up the steps as she comes like this woman's a mess she's like yes

30:42Ben Mandelker: and the first thing she does is she goes right up to Juliet and hugs her she comes up hugs her and kisses her And Juliet's like, oh, long time now. See, hello, beautiful. You look amazing. You look gorgeous. And she's like, oh, you look beautiful. But there's no need to be fake. It's fine. I'm like, you're the one who walked up to her and gave her a hug and a kiss first. Yeah.

31:01Ronnie Karam: She's like, but I'm not a fake. Oh, we both know where we stand, Juliet. She goes, what? Where do we stand? I don't know, Juliet. Honestly, I don't even know where we stand. Oh, okay, Juliet. Okay. Let me give you a hint.

31:17Ronnie Karam: close your lips around the straw close your lips around the straw

31:23Ben Mandelker: memories memories I don't understand these I don't understand what you're trying to lead to I'm just like totally flawed I actually don't even know where we stand are we talking about Amanda Caroline's apartment because that's where we literally stand Juliet so then Katie is like oh hello Amanda's just here so Pantheon's like oh my god thank you so much this is the most house. I love it. So now they're all saying, hi, happy International Women's Day. And Juliet's just still standing there like, I didn't even know there was an issue. Apparently there's an issue. I can't even believe it. I mean, what sort of jewelry party is this where you just walk in and say that there's an issue with someone?

32:00Ronnie Karam: And she's talking to Nessie, and Nessie's like, oh no, not an issue. Wait, is this Panthea? And she's like, yeah. She goes, you're going to introduce me, aren't you? I'm like, Nessie getting messy. Nessie's all ready to jump right in. So Juliet's like, I'm absolutely stunned. I mean, she's late. She storms up the stairs. She comes in shouting, waving her arms. I mean, absolutely ridiculous, isn't it?

32:26Ben Mandelker: She was literally not storming up the stairs, and she was literally not shouting. So I was like, okay. So Juliet has like a little Karen in her. I love these ladies. I love all of them so far.

32:36Ronnie Karam: They're all so ridiculous.

32:37Ben Mandelker: The way she came up the staircase with that flying thrower, threatening to burn down the whole place. I mean, she was absolutely out of control. The smoke was literally coming out of her ears because she set her hair on fire because she was already so angry. I couldn't even believe the scene that she was making.

32:51Ronnie Karam: All right, ladies, ladies, ding, ding, ding. I'd like to give a little speech now. Thank you for coming to International Women's Day where we celebrate women, particularly international women. Well, I don't know. You could maybe be national and still be international on the inside. Or you could be a woman who loves to travel internationally. I'm not really sure. I'm not really sure what that's about, but it's important not to just celebrate one location-specific type of woman.

33:23Ben Mandelker: It's women coming together, supporting each other, and there's so many people. Hold on, just one moment. Brush the staircase. It's been 15 minutes. I'm seeing some piling. Brush the staircase. case. It's really about women supporting women. And I just want to say thank you to everyone. The coffee table, I'm seeing some fingerprints. What's wrong with you? I've given you explicit directions and the loo, it's been about 16 minutes and no one's even been in there.

33:49Ronnie Karam: I told you it would be absolute carnage if you didn't take care of that every 15 minutes. And carnage I smell. Get to it, international woman. All right. It's really about women supporting women, really. Yes. And women also supporting toilet brushes, which they are holding to clean the carnage of the bathroom, which you've all done. But I celebrate the carnage you have brought to my powder room. So thank you all to that. And anyone who's brought a gift for me, especially Nessie, who brought me a cake, that was wonderful. What a cake! She makes it for the royals. I don't know if you've heard. Wonderful stuff.

34:23Ronnie Karam: Thank you. And to everybody who brought a gift for me on International Women's Day, that was very touching. I'd just like to read a statement from my friend at a little place you might know called Wham! Wake me up before you go, go. Ain't no use crying on an old man solo. Oh, wasn't that gorgeous? Now, he's not a woman, but this song sung about woman. I think, I think so. Anyway, I'd like to send him a piece of cake. Why am I still speaking? Please clean up the cat hair on the stairs. I don't even have a cat. Where did the cat hair come from?

35:03Ben Mandelker: Everyone, I must apologise. Panthea, with the way she stormed up the staircase, unfortunately caused quite a bit of a dust-up. And just please don't look at the unbrushed staircase for the moment. You know, a wise man once said, last Christmas you gave me a beautiful cake. And the very next day you gave it away. I'm not giving away this cake. Nessie, thank you so much for this wonderful, wonderful cake. International Women's Day, everyone.

35:25Ronnie Karam: This year, to save me from tears, I'm throwing you down a staircase. All right. All right, everybody. mingle, everybody mingle. So they break up and then all the cast ladies get together and they do another cheers. And she's like, I just wanted to thank you all, thank you all for coming to me to celebrate international women on a day and not a night. And Panthea's like, yes, to women that we always fix their crowns. Hmm? And without them knowing that their crowns are falling, to people that keep it real and keep us braced, to understand, keep us braced, to women who do the flossy. Do we understand what I'm getting at now?

36:03Ronnie Karam: She's like, alright, alright. Now,

36:06Ben Mandelker: this one over here, the Australian, I did love her at one point. Well, I love you still. Oh, shut the fuck up. I mean, come on, be honest. You're such a good actress. You're so, oh, oh, oh. No, I'm actually authentic with my friends.

36:20Ronnie Karam: I'm authentic with my friends.

36:23Ben Mandelker: Hello, Nessie speaking. I've known Juliet for quite a long time, and this is from her, this is who she is from day one she has absolutely not changed oh but that's because you two are

36:34Ronnie Karam: close i mean the truth is juliet everyone knows you borrow your clothes i've never borrowed any of my clothes what does this have to do with anything she is so ridiculous oh shut up you don't you don't borrow your clothes i'm totally transparent i'll show you anything i borrowed which is probably about three or four things oh three or four things i hate liars

36:58Ben Mandelker: well everyone reaches out oh shut up nessie i do not borrow clothes i've never borrowed clothes i do not reach out to borrow clothes and amanda's like well i didn't even know that was a thing

37:13Ronnie Karam: yeah well it is a thing and let me tell you another but we always share clothes it gets normal for girls to share clothes oh first of all i don't borrow clothes and now we always share So which is it, Juliet? Which is it? Borrower, borrower, borrower.

37:30Ben Mandelker: Well, let me clarify this. Panthea's friend who owns a store actually reached out to me and she said if I can ever do some product placement for her, why would I do it? And so I had an invitation to the BAFTAs the very next day. And so here's a picture of me at the BAFTAs. Don't look beautiful. Okay, my teeth look great because I've got a dentist friend. And I asked if I could borrow this beautiful gold dress for the event. And I tagged her. And I mean, it was what she wanted me to do. I didn't see what the big deal was.

37:53Ronnie Karam: This has nothing to do with the BAFTAs. Six months prior to the BAFTAs, she borrowed six dresses to take them all to Australia and said she was going to be putting them in all these, you know, fancy magazines and was going to be tagging my friends. And that's why she gave her those clothes. And she's talking about a completely different time again, trying to weasel her way just like she does every single time.

38:16Ben Mandelker: I hate people that lie. Own it. Own it. Own it. Tell the truth. I'm Panthea Rinna. that's what i want i can't sit here and be fake especially on a day like today when women are meant to have each other's back which is exactly why i came into this party and started fighting

38:33Ronnie Karam: with another woman and karen's cracking up she's like oh she seems so put together you know nice clothes and in my head i'm thinking did she borrow that dress too that's a good dress

38:44Ben Mandelker: and nancy's like this is international women's day we're literally sitting here having a good time who cares if you're borrowing dresses.

38:51Ronnie Karam: And you also talked behind my back. I've never talked behind your back. Yes, you did to that stupid dentist. Yes, you did. Because she's not stupid. She's a lovely girl, and she really handles the drill quite well. I mean, listen, I saw that dentist. I said, you are so beautiful. I've never seen a more beautiful dentist in my life.

39:10Ben Mandelker: What happened with the dentist? Was she dating someone from Wham as well? You know, George Michael was gay.

39:15Ronnie Karam: All right, fine. Well, this dentist, I knew a dentist. I introduced you, And basically my son goes through this whole story again. And she took the dentist side. I defended her because you were going for her. And all I wanted to do, well, you take her side. You were my friend. And you doubled down. Why didn't you put the phone down and call me?

39:35Ben Mandelker: Well, what I didn't like was Panthea is you were going to social media and writing horrible things about this dentist.

39:41Ronnie Karam: So we find out what Panthea was really doing, which was going and trashing this woman all over social media.

39:50Ben Mandelker: And, you know, Juliette's like, everything that she accused that person of was false. Annihilating another person is unacceptable as far as I'm concerned, okay? You've been offended, so you go for the lowest common denominator. And you know that for me is where I sort of saw a side of the personality that I did not like, and I backed away, okay? Because there's two sides of it. And I, Juliet, am a defender of the underdog at all times. Don't you remember? I was around poor people from the ages of zero to 11 and then went to boarding school and stopped hanging out with them. But I carry the memory of filthy poor people with me to this day.

40:23Ben Mandelker: But you didn't call me.

40:24Ronnie Karam: We spoke. You're a great actress, Juliet. Oh, well, thank you. I'll take that. I'll take that. I want you to be honest. I was a good friend to you, but I did talk behind your back. That's what I want you to say. I took mine, you're back to a dentist. And she was your friend and I did this. And I'm sorry you feel this way. And I'm sorry we lost our friendship. That's what I want from you.

40:46Ben Mandelker: And Amanda goes, God, talking about teeth at someone's party. Really don't want to hear that. No, not teeth. Okay? Not a topic. Could someone go brush the staircase again? Anything to distract away from this.

40:59Ronnie Karam: So she just won't let up. And she's being ridiculous. She's throwing all of this shit at the walls. Like, first it was a dentist. Then it's that she borrows clothes. Then it's that she talks behind her back. And it's embarrassing because everyone's staring at them in the party. And she's really, she's just one of those who's like, guess what? I'm on Housewives. I'm going to go and be the biggest storyline maker there is. I'm going to have a fight. It's going to be amazing. And she's kind of falling on her face. I mean, she looks like an idiot. Yeah. So Amanda. Amanda breaks it up. She's like, we're going to mingle now.

41:29Ronnie Karam: We're going to mingle, ladies.

41:33Ben Mandelker: So they all get up. they follow the queen bee and everyone steps away from this big fight. And Juliet's like, it's just not the time of the place. But there's never a time in the place. This is crazy. Honestly, I'm genuinely sorry. I'm sorry I've let you down and I'm sorry. I genuinely am very sorry. I say that as someone who knows you quite a bit well. Okay. I want to say I'm sorry. And Karen is loving it.

41:55Ronnie Karam: She's like, Panthea clipped Juliet wings. She came in flying on balloons and Panthea burst them all. Pop, pop, pop, pop.

42:04Ben Mandelker: that's just like at the moment we just need to time out i'm just so floored i'm floored by this

42:09Ronnie Karam: girl thinking anything like this about me and she's like just take a breath you're queen you're a queen oh well i gotta go i've just gotta go i'm feeling very i mean oh goodbye amanda i just can't be here with liars i can't spend time with liars dentist side taker so this is panthea she's she's

42:30Ben Mandelker: of this mold where she is the person who makes a scene and makes brash, rude accusations all under the sanctimonious banner of rooting out liars. So we've seen this housewife stereotype or archetype so many times and this is where Panthea falls into. So now she's going to say like, oh, now, now I'm going to look like a lunatic because I lost it. And she's coming across as this eloquent, no, I didn't. What is she saying? I'm shocked. I'm sorry. With her borrowed clothes, disgusting. you're acting like a lunatic that's why

43:02Ronnie Karam: this show's crazy i loved it uh this panthea seems terrible um and then we see the coming up for the rest of the season and it looks amazing dorinda comes on uh oh my god stanbury's on it just looks so so good so i'm hoping they can work some kind of deal to get this uh to our neck of the woods soon so we can all watch this because it's great that would be wonderful

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