#2999 RHOM S7E15: Ships and Giggles

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2:28Ronnie Karam: Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, everybody. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben. Hi, Ben. Hi.

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4:20Ben Mandelker: Party, baby. Party. Honestly, wow. Welcome. Welcome, welcome. Ronnie, how are you doing today? Great. You know, I love a Monday. I love a Monday, too. Also, I have to say, I had a real rush when this episode ended of Miami because I thought for sure with all the talk about this Christmas party at the Shoma Bazaar, I was like, okay, I'm ready for it for them to say next week on the season finale. But they didn't say it. I was like, oh, we still have another episode. I don't know how long this season is, but I was actually a little shocked that the season finale was not announced for next week.

5:01Ronnie Karam: Yeah, nice. get more more miami in our lives never hurt anybody that's for sure yeah and actually want to get to the reunion though because i want to know what this big historic moment the reunion is it's going to be can you tell me more about this stupid what have what have you heard so far because i've i've heard he did an interview and she was saying oh the the uh reunion something huge happens it's never happened a huge bomb has dropped it's going to be crazy and everybody's like oh my god Yeah, the reunion's nuts and no one's going to believe it's historic. The first time this has ever happened at a reunion.

5:35Ronnie Karam: So people are trying to figure out what it is. My guess was that Stephanie quits because she had some post after the reunion that, I don't know, seemed like that. But it's not really my idea. I'd like saw something like that on Reddit and was like, maybe that's what happened. But I don't know, because now that I'm watching it, I don't think Stephanie's going to quit.

5:53Ben Mandelker: No, maybe Andy's like, you know what? I've had enough. We're done. We're ending the reunion right now. and he just leaves himself. I can see that. It's like, I'm out of here. He just drops the mic. I'm out. Fuck you guys. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, Miami reunions have been rough for him ever since the very first one. I will never forget that first one when they had them lined up in the clubhouse and those women were like, we're going to get a season two and they squabbled and it was mainly Adriana and it was such a pile on. It was crazy and they've been doing it ever since. The Miami reunions are, they require a certain amount of patience as a host.

6:28Ben Mandelker: So I'm going to say my, I'm going to predict that Andy finally says, you know what? We're ending this reunion early.

6:36Ronnie Karam: I'm out of here. I'm a dad now. Okay. So episode 15 of season seven birthdays, blues cruise. So Kiki meets with Julia and Julia's, I don't know, getting crazy hair done. And Kiki's like, Oh my God, I party so hard. who's coming to this all of us like oh some girls we have workout today aerobics yes there's aerobics

7:01Ben Mandelker: day for some girls yeah uh it's gonna be like a 70s 80s thing i just want to point out that julia winds up getting essentially like partial cornrows which is like what every girl in my middle school would do and that they like went down to the caribbean for spring break because they come back with the cornrows and julia is like i am of a certain age and i will still do it as well okay good for you

7:25Ronnie Karam: and then we go to Lars with Stephanie and they're dressed in their 80s leg warmers outfits they're doing aerobics today you guys so they go check it out and it's this big crazy like dance room like a party room not a party room but like a club you know like an 80s club and it's VHS aerobics and so a guy comes in and he's like we are doing aerobics today Queens, I got you. Yes, yes, Queens, yes. That ball changed back.

8:01Ben Mandelker: Oh, my God. Look at this. They got shake weights. I mean, imagine. This reminds me of Steve. This reminds me of Steve when he sees a bird out the window. Wow. He just starts to pull something like this. He's a crazy guy, right? Anyone want a cocky? Anyone?

8:15Ronnie Karam: I mean, what even are these things? They look perverse. What are you saying? They look like a penis or something? No, they look like weights. Penises aren't perverse. Working out as. So, Larsa's like, oh, my God, you could like this look like. Like, look, shake it. Like, look, oh, my God, can someone film this? I need it for content. It's like a shake weight shaking like, oh, my God, but why is the tip jangling?

8:43Ben Mandelker: It's like, because that's what they're supposed to do, Marisol.

8:48Ben Mandelker: well i'm leading aerobics today whether i like it or not i don't want dick to get mad at me if i lead a bad aerobics class am i right dick remember richard branson we call him dick because it's like dick here's my thing i like to say the word dick a lot but then when i see something that's actually undulating i'm like oh my god this is perverted i don't know so am i am a prude or am i sassy i I can't tell.

9:10Ronnie Karam: And then Gertie comes in way too excited as usual. It's like, oh my God, look at this. This is aerobics. We're going to do aerobics today. This is crazy. This is absolutely nuts. Look at my wig. Look at this wig. It's like flash dance. We're going to do flash dance or like Gertie dance. That's what I call it. Gertie dance. Rebrand. Rebrand. Let's do it.

9:32Ben Mandelker: DJ, give me a beat. Ooh, Gertie, Gertie, Gertie, Gertie, Gertie. So they're all dancing. They're doing all this. And then it's like, we get like some bits of like the eighties. What do we think about the eighties? And it's funny because they, everyone's reminiscing about the eighties and we were seeing all of them with photos from the eighties. You know, Gertie, we see Gertie's photos from the eighties, which are so cute. And I just love that everyone gives a photo from the eighties, except for Marisol. Marisol is just like a picture of her from like 10 years ago, but at an eighties party.

10:00Ronnie Karam: No, I was going to say, Marisol's always looked like this. I think it was not from the eighties.

10:06Ben Mandelker: It could have been. I felt like it was just her dressed up for the 80s. I don't think it was actually Marisol in the 80s.

10:13Ronnie Karam: No, I was wondering about that picture. And Alexi is like, oh, in the 80s, Miami was caliente. I was dating a cocaine cowboy, and I didn't even know that he was a cocaine cowboy. It was crazy. Oh, okay. The 80s are crazy.

10:26Ben Mandelker: I had no idea. Yeah, that's crazy. And then also then for Larsa, we don't even see a picture of Larsa. Instead, we see a picture of Jon Bon Jovi, because she's like, I'm not going to show you a picture of my old face like. so you have to look at Jon Bon Jovi instead. I was like obsessed with Jon Bon Jovi like, they're like, well, that doesn't seem like your type, Larsa. And she's like, yeah, he was definitely in my type back then.

10:50Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I don't believe it, but Larsa seems to be dating a new man. I saw her holding hands with a guy and then I looked him up and he went to Columbia University. And I just was like, I just wasn't trying to imagine what those conversations were like. I just can't imagine Larsa and this guy having much. Who is it? He's like a guy who, I think he's like a basketball player, but I don't think he's in the NBA, but he's just some guy. It's like John something or another.

11:19Ronnie Karam: I'm looking at Lars's boyfriend. Lars's boyfriend, former pro basketball player, Jeff Kobe. Jeff Kobe. I'm like John something or another.

11:29Ben Mandelker: John Bon Jovi. His name is John Bon Jovi. You've ever

11:34Ronnie Karam: seen him before? Yeah, I'm not really into him like. So then, sorry, now I'm looking at stupid Jeff Coby. Okay, so then we get to Marisol, and she's like, yeah, believe it or not, in the 80s, I worked out. I was a teenager, but I was always in the back because I didn't want anyone watching me like, you know. So then Larsa's twerking, and there's no movement in that butt, which is really funny. She's not move at all. Whatever she got put in there is extremely firm.

12:11Ben Mandelker: It looked not unlike on below deck when they got too close to another boat and they have to drop a fender off the side. I was like, oh. So then we heard just like more like 80s music and stuff. And Stephanie's like, in the 80s, I was like four. I was like in diapers. And Masood, he was in college. That's funny, right? We all care about that. Everyone loves Masood humor, right? We all care about Masood. Let's go to show him a bazaar. Gross.

12:36Ronnie Karam: So then the instructor's like, okay, see you all sailors, you did it, even the heaving hag in the back. Hey, wait a minute. So he jump kicks, as you do, and Marisol's like, alright ladies, excellent work. Wow, everybody did money in. I loved it. Oh, that's why I love the 80s. The 80s was the best time, man. God, who didn't love the 80s? I'm like raising my hand. Gay people. thanks personally you did okay well i mean i was a closeted young child of the 80s so it was a little bit of a different experience for me but uh okay i'll just move on from that so gertie is like i'll make it all dark i know i was like my guys the 80s was the darkest time in history.

13:28Ronnie Karam: Loved it. So they're talking about dinner. Larsa and Lisa met. You know, they had the two separate groups of dinner. So Larsa's was good. And Gertie's like, yeah, we were reflecting on things within the group, obviously. And you and Lisa, and I think that's a step forward. You know, the way that we talked about it is a step forward. Even though you didn't talk about it, but we talked about it, which felt like a good step. It was a good step. I had a good time. Guess what, everybody? I've made up with larsa and lisa well how are you feeling about that situation pips because we talked about it too

14:04Ben Mandelker: was her like like what did she say like but i'll be i was gonna be honest with her and told her like how much longer like we're gonna do this okay because it's getting boring okay we have to have season finale coming up we need to wrap this up it's getting stupid okay and you know you know it's kind of way way too long it's way too long too much you know the thing that i hate the most are storylines that go on too long. Oh, Todd! Todd! Todd!

14:27Ronnie Karam: All right, can you do this, Larza? Because I feel like your wheels are spinning. I can just, looking at you, it's like waiting for an old-timey elevator. I'm just watching a needle pass random number. Are you here? Are you here? It's like a spinning beach ball when my Mac is about to shut down. Are you here? Are you here? Now, to be fair,

14:45Ben Mandelker: your face does look like a Toyota hubcap these days, so it's not hard to see the wheel. But say, please, explain yourself, Larsa.

14:52Ronnie Karam: No, no, no. But like, I feel like X, Y, Z. Like, I feel like I've been there. But like, I'm saying like she really isn't a responsive friend. You know? Like, she's not responsive. I'm like, hello? Like, I'm checking for like breath under her nose to make sure she's even breathing. Because like, she doesn't respond.

15:07Ben Mandelker: All right. We're going back to details again, Pips. Like, no details. Okay. Who cares about details? If we cared about details, well, then I'm sure Steve would. I don't know. I don't know what I'm trying to say. I was trying to form a joke there. but sometimes you just reach out and there's just nothing there. Okay. Details. We don't like details.

15:23Ronnie Karam: I'm friends with both of you. And I really believe that like both of you want to fix this. I do. Even though both of you are like, I hate that bitch. And like, I think like you really like want to fix it. I get it. I do. I do.

15:34Ben Mandelker: You know what? Larson needs that both have to shut up and like not talk about the past anymore. They just have to say, you know what? I'm sorry. I was not sorry. I'm so sorry. I heard you. I want to fix this. But if they start talking about the past, like they're just going to get into a fight again. You know,

15:45Ronnie Karam: I just worry that you're not going to be able to help yourselves. I mean, drop the fucking details. Am I right? Right, Gertie?

15:53Ben Mandelker: And she's like, mm-hmm. Yep. Yep. That gets a big Gertie knot. Totally.

15:58Ronnie Karam: Big Gertie knot. So then on the outside, Kiki and Julia are lounging and Kiki's like, oh my God, my vagina needs some vitamin C.

16:12Ben Mandelker: She just breaths her legs out. and stephanie's like oh my god howdy that's a nice pose that's what you call banter with new

16:19Ronnie Karam: girlfriends i'm learning my vagina need the light so i'm giving it the light right now so they're all saying hello and stuff and stephanie's like oh um waiter person is that a mimosa okay so is that fresh squeezed yeah because i'm allergic to the ones that are not i break in the hives and i go like must be fresh squeezed no one you are not shut up the only people break

16:43Ben Mandelker: Any out into hives or any server who has to serve you, Stephanie.

16:47Ronnie Karam: Girl, they do not have time for this. They've got thousands of people to serve, ma 'am. So the server just nods at her. She goes, awesome. Thank you. Great. God, I'm not going to have to have a poor person version of a mimosa. Thank the Lord.

17:04Ben Mandelker: Although we call them Shoma-sas. With a Shoma in there.

17:09Ronnie Karam: Anyone? So now they're deciding that they need to do something for Adriana's birthday, even though she doesn't want it. And Julia's like, well, I talked to her about birthday. She doesn't want to celebrate. And then Gertie and Adriana come over. And Gertie's like, oh, my God, this is so nice. Look at this, Stephanie. What are you, nautical Stephanie now? This is nautical Stephanie. I love nautical Steph. Crazy times.

17:34Ben Mandelker: Everyone's like, are we still doing the nautical Stephanie thing? by everyone I see the audience says that so Adriana sits down she's like ah I'm sitting down old sad old sad sitting down like okay she's all she's very very down in the dumps although you know what was shocking what we find out later on which I didn't realize that Adriana is turning 59 and like holy smokes that I mean if I could ever if I could age as well as Adriana's aging I would be a happy person that she she looks well that's why it's confusing because you know i get the

18:10Ronnie Karam: whole aging thing especially for a beautiful woman you know like i get it i totally do but i'm also watching it like you're fucking stunningly gorgeous and i can only feel so bad for you because you still have like ultimate pretty privilege like i'm sitting over here like playing with my muffin top like staring at you cry about i can't i can't with you get over it You're gorgeous. Stop it. So Marisol comes over and she's like, Oh, how was the workout? Oh, it was so fun. Alexia didn't even recognize me. It's crazy.

18:46Ben Mandelker: Yeah, well, you know, Gertie's got rhythm. You know what? She doesn't have a nickname for me. I've given a nickname to everyone except for Gertie. So let's join that for a second. I'm still workshopping it. How about I call her Rhythmer? She's got rhythm. Hey, Rithy. Riddhi. Is that going to catch on anyone? Riddhi? No? Sky Riddhi?

19:04Ronnie Karam: Curd. I think that's a disease. I'm not going to call her that. So then we go to Lisa. Lisa. Lisa. While everyone else is cheering, but Lisa is sitting by herself and texting on her phone. And she's like, hey, Larsa, can you meet me by the bard? We should talk.

19:26Ben Mandelker: You know where Larsa is? you have like, you know, you have like an air tag on her normally. And Stephanie's like, well, I mean, last I heard she was talking to Lisa. My God, should we check to see if anybody's floating overboard?

19:36Ronnie Karam: Oh my God, can Larsa even swim? Oh God, Larsa floats. Are you kidding me? Larsa won't float.

19:44Ben Mandelker: Adriana chuckles

19:45Ronnie Karam: on the side.

19:46Ben Mandelker: She's like, okay.

19:49Ronnie Karam: So they get their drinks and so Larsa and Lisa, so they get drinks and Lisa's got a bunch of drinks and she's like wait like these are like yours like well i wanted to detox and retox so i got a green smoothie and then some wine though what do you want from me oh my god i don't know why i'm so nervous right

20:09Ben Mandelker: now i'm so nervous don't be nervous like relax like i'm not nervous i just said i i don't know why i'm nervous but i want to let you know i'm not nervous but i'm nervous oh i just have anxiety okay you know i don't want this i think it's terrible i think it's gone too far and i don't get to a point where there's absolutely no coming back okay okay like same yeah well i i just think

20:31Ronnie Karam: i think we gotta stop though gotta stop okay okay like i know like you were going through like a lot like and i feel like you said like things to me like that like we're like i don't know like that like they like hurt me to my like bone like like honestly like and like i don't want to like go through all of it like but like i think you're saying that you know the paparazzi that i hired like that was like really crazy because like i didn't like hire like a paparazzi that was like Really crazy. So then we see three hours earlier. To move on, we just can't go back to talk about these things. Okay.

21:01Ronnie Karam: You're sure you're not going to talk about the things? Okay. Okay, let's go to three hours ahead. But like, I'm talking about like the things like.

21:11Ben Mandelker: So then they have this moment where like, like Larissa takes off her sunglasses and then Lisa takes off her sunglasses. They're like, they're going to look at each other eye to eye. Lisa's like, how many times have we tried? we've been over this over over all the entire world talking about this trying to fix this literally the entire world and we see milan and sevilla and miami all the times they've talked about this and uh then we we come back here to the boat and he says like look i think for us to get so angry it's because there are a lot of feelings there i don't want to ever say jody's name again but like we know we you know we come as a pair we've been together for one now and i I don't want you two to have a thing when we're all together.

21:50Ben Mandelker: I hate it. All right. It makes him so stressed. He almost opened his jaw. Yeah.

21:56Ronnie Karam: Like me too. Like, and like, I don't want to make you sad. Like, cause that's not my like intent. Like, you know, and like, I feel like we've been like friends for so long and we've like had so many like good times. Like, Oh my God, I'm crying. I'm crying. I'm sorry. But like, I don't want you to cry. Like, so now they had, and they decide their friends again. Okay. And like, I'm sorry. I talked like about your boyfriend, but like, I'll never talk about him again, okay? Okay, I also want to apologize because I unfollowed you. So I'll go back on here and re-follow. You unfollowed me, like? That is devious.

22:29Ronnie Karam: That's like diabolical. Such a brat, like.

22:34Ben Mandelker: Just so you know, that was like Braddish. You're such a brat. Oh my God, thank you so much. That is honestly what I've always aspired to be. Not like the doll. I mean like a brat. Oh, yeah, well, sorry. I'm following you now.

22:47Ronnie Karam: Okay. Yeah, but like if I knew that you weren't like following me, like I would have taken like all your photos off too. Like, and then like, I've got like a lot of photos of you like. So like, that would have been a lot of photos. You're so funny. So now we go back to everybody else. Girls, I rented all the spa, the entire spa. You can have whatever you want. It's on deck. All right.

23:09Ben Mandelker: Oh, guys, girls, Larsa just wrote back to my Shoma Bizarre phone. Okay, guys. Okay, ready? And I was like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. She goes, I made up with Lisa. I'm on the deck. Oh, wow. Wow. Congratulations. It finally happened. My God. Thank you, baby Jesus. So now we can all have dinner together tonight. I like it. This is good. You know, I'm going to wear red tonight because it's a scarlet night, girls.

23:33Ronnie Karam: Okay. Well, now maybe that we need, now that everyone's getting up, maybe we need to touch base with Stephanie's situation and you, Alexia. Maybe you could fight. Oh, well, I feel like I always get blamed for everything. And it was really more Marisol that was so adamant about me not going. And you just let her off the hook. And Marisol's like, wait a minute. I'm sitting right here. I'm sitting literally right here.

23:57Ben Mandelker: I'm shaking with this accusation. Oh, wait. It's just one of those weights from the aerobics earlier. God, this thing is like a penis.

24:04Ronnie Karam: Absolutely shaking. Hold on. I'm better. Okay, I'm better. It really hurt me, Stephanie. Okay. And she's like, well, I was hurt too. and I think we should talk about it by ourselves. So she's like, me and Alexi about heads because we're both alphas.

24:25Ben Mandelker: Listen, for everyone to make up, we all come together. We're removing, I'm going to remove one piece of clothing for everyone who makes up. Julia's like,

24:32Ronnie Karam: Oh, you're going to be naked pretty soon. I don't want to see your tits anymore, man. God, bro, I've had enough titties. Oh my God. You know my tits are the best tits you've seen. They're great, but I've seen enough of them. Show me your dick. I'm already showing you mine. We're on his boat right now. Hi, Dick. Hey, is Dick connected to any of these cameras here? Like the guy who owns all the Cheesecake Factory? You know, I hear the guy who owns the Cheesecake Factory stares at those cameras in his underwear all day. Isn't that crazy? Hi, Dick. You and your tiny whinies.

25:07Ben Mandelker: Excuse me. Excuse me. I'm going to go to the bathroom. Does anyone have a walker for the old lady? So Adriana, she just sadly leaves to go to the bathroom. And Julie's like, guys, since Adriana stepped out, maybe that's a moment we can talk about our birthday. What are we going to do tonight? Should we make a cake that has her name written out in big letters and says oldie old face over here? It has an arrow pointing to her. Can we do that?

25:37Ronnie Karam: Sure, we can get her a cake, hopefully made with cyanide or something like that. Just remember yesterday she said nothing for birthday. Well, we have to do it. Whether she says she wants to or not, we're going to do it. I love it. I love it. I love cakes. I love birthdays. I love Adriana. We're going to do it all. It's going to be crazy. People are going to be like, what did that lady have a birthday and get a cake? Wow, that's nuts. That's nuts.

26:01Ben Mandelker: Should we get her an Ovaltine flavored one? What do you guys think?

26:06Ronnie Karam: is Veritol. Let's go to the spa. So Marisol and Alexi arrive and it's the Redemption Spa. Okay. Only sinners around in here.

26:19Ben Mandelker: Yeah. So they go in this really very large spa and they're all like doing spa stuff and everything. It's like mud. It's organic mud. And everyone's relaxing, etc. What is non-organic mud.

26:35Ronnie Karam: Is there non-organic mud? Mud is organic, isn't it? It's dirt and water. Like, what the fuck? Can I get some fake mud?

26:47Ben Mandelker: Sure, there's some non-organic mud around here. So then they're going to get some beverage, and Marisol's like, well, you know a similar drink to a screwdriver that you would like? You know what you should get? You guys should get a Harvey Wallbanger, which then leads to like a five-minute bit about like, who can say wallbanger wallbanger warbanger i will say there was one time i went oh do you say ben one time i went to a restaurant and i i was like hi uh reservation under mandelker they go wallbanger i was like no and i i thought that was like the funniest thing in the world when it happened they thought my name was wallbanger little did i realize i was setting up lore to tell on a Real Housewives of Miami recap.

27:28Ben Mandelker: Not life.

27:29Ronnie Karam: Look what the word does. Oh, the direction of life can take you. It's a real wallbanger. Real wallbanger.

27:36Ben Mandelker: I actually really enjoy a Harvey wallbanger, but you have to have a very specific, you have to have Galeano to make a good wallbanger. Who wants that whole ball of Galeano around?

27:45Ronnie Karam: So the other girls come, and Kiki's like, oh my God, I'm going into this tub. I'm going in, and it's a 100 degree tub. And so she's sitting in there, and then Stephanie comes. Oh, look, it's Mighty Mouse. Hi, Mighty Mouse. Hey, Mousey, Mighty Mouse. I'm trying it out. Mighty Mouse. Mighty Mouse.

28:04Ben Mandelker: Mighty Mouse. Hi, Mighty. Hey, Mighty. Mighty's here, girls. Look at Mighty. She's here. Mighty. Mighty Mouse.

28:11Ronnie Karam: So then Kiki goes from the hot tub into the cold tub. Oh, my God. She's so brave. Let me tell you. That's crazy going from the hot to the cold like that. Oh, my God. What is she even doing over there? So Adriana comes. She's like, hello, lady. it's me.

28:30Ben Mandelker: Her pouting is so hilarious this episode.

28:33Ronnie Karam: But also I read that this happened right after Bravo, not BravoCon obviously, but like FanFest, you know how they have those FanFest things and all the cast went and then they went straight from that to this. So I'm wondering if something happened at FanFest that upset her.

28:48Ben Mandelker: Maybe, maybe she had just found out that she won't be a full-time cast member or something. I was actually wondering.

28:53Ronnie Karam: we've got a new announcement at fan fest we're dumping adriana it's like wait a minute but um yeah i wonder if she got like asked a nasty question or if they got into a fight there that she can't talk about because it's weird what did you do out there a listener who was at fan fest you did something what did you do come tell us in the comments it was to read somehow so

29:18Ben Mandelker: she's moping around, you know, and then Larsa and Lisa walk in holding hands. They're like, oh, wow. The band's all back together. We got our two dumb, dumb lead singers here, too. They're all hugging. And Larsa's like, I feel so much better. It's like a heavy weight that's got, what did you call me? Sorry, I won't rephrase that.

29:42Ronnie Karam: Hey, just get a con. Can you step right over to Marisol's bar pimps. Oh, God, it's beautiful. It's like a bride and groom walking in after their wedding. My heart is melting. My heart melted a long time ago. Who are we kidding? My face is still on. That's really all I ask for. So now Alexia and Stephanie are going to go to the mudroom together for a talk. Yes. And meanwhile, Julia is massaging Marisol and Larzo's feet. And Julia's like, oh, I cannot

30:13Ben Mandelker: I can't believe I am massaging the most famous feet in America. And after this, I go home and I massage the most famous hoof in America. Got, got off.

30:22Ronnie Karam: And we see a flashback of Larza saying, there's this guy who was a correctional officer in Minnesota. And he was like, oh, there was this fight in prison. And I felt so bad that he had such a hard day at work that I started sending him a whole video. And yeah, I paid my mortgage.

30:40Ben Mandelker: so like oh god not the toe squeeze oh it's like little kittens licking my toes oh i love it so much which then made me think of serial mom with that dog looking at ladies feet while she was watching annie so then uh kiki they're just talking about this so now gertie is adriana sits with gertie and he's like oh my god i feel like i haven't had a spa day like this in so long like just to relax you know and one thing that we love to talk about when when we are relaxing at a spa is going to therapy god couples therapy i'm doing so much of it now i gotta do my own therapy because i got trauma trauma i tell you are you relaxing yet adrian are you relaxing yet

31:20Ronnie Karam: therapy trauma trauma trauma trauma well it's depression but it's kind of like relax good good i'm going to therapy oh well i'm glad i sat by you so then um gertie tells us that she's learned through therapy with Russell that she probably needs to go to solo therapy and work through a lot of her stuff. So then she's scared to do it. But now let's go to the main event in the mud room. So Alexia comes in to Stephanie rubbing mud all over herself. She's like, is that organic mud? I hope so. Okay.

31:56Ben Mandelker: Alexia does not have her microphone on, which I'll never forgive her for because the entire scene just sounds like this. Oh, well, you know, Peter. you know what i heard about meritor is like oh my god put your microphone on alexia so stephanie's like um i can't believe we're the ones that decide to do this i guess we are someone alike we're both alphas right yeah i guess we'll do you know i i i i'm glad that we get this time alone from the group from everyone's opinions because it's like a lot of opinions and

32:22Ronnie Karam: we're alphas right right right yeah for whatever reason like we're always doing great and then like something happens and in this case the Sevilla trip you really hurt me because I wasn't expecting that I wasn't expecting it well I'm really glad that you were I'm really glad that

32:35Ben Mandelker: we're talking about this because what happened from my point of view as someone who works in business with 80 men all around them all the time when I'd left that night at dinner I was very upset and I got in the car and the first thing I thought was oh I thought it'd be Larsa who'd be coming to me but it was Alexia Marisol who came with me and I was like oh because they're my friends I saw you as my friends okay and then we have a flashback of me thinking you were friends but then you showed me with actions that you were going to be my safe space. And I get up, you're going to be a safe space like the Shoma Bazaar.

33:02Ben Mandelker: And I hear you're not coming on the bus. And I'm like, you're not the Shoma Bazaar after all. This is actually just bizarre. And Julia gets up and says, they're not coming because you have too many rules and they feel like you're going to leave them stranded. And on top of that, they think you're very bossy.

33:13Ronnie Karam: Oh, well, we do think you're bossy. Yeah, that's true.

33:18Ben Mandelker: I love Alexia does that all the time. Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, we do think that.

33:23Ronnie Karam: Well, Stephanie thinks if she confronts people and says, like, it hurts my feelings, that they're going to be like, no, no, we don't think that. No, no, your stuff about the plane was totally normal. The fact is, you are bossy and you were an asshole about that plane. And I love that both Alexia and Marisol are like, no, you are bossy. So Stephanie just looks at her like, oh, look, I was scared that we would go on the plane and then something would happen, you know, because like the thing is we never know you know like we're good and then we're not good and so that was kind of like my thing you know and then marisol had way more other things you know like lots of things like a whole bag of things about it but you know like you had lunch with adriana and that really bothered marisol she didn't like that so that's what this is really about because i was like wow what way to stab your friend in the back what the hell that's crazy and amazing to see.

34:17Ronnie Karam: I loved it. Yeah.

34:20Ben Mandelker: You know what? Larsa introduced me to the group. However, I wanted to get to know the girls. I wanted to get to know Adriana myself. And I'm sad that Marisol felt a certain way about me going to lunch with Adriana. Okay. If there's a problem with me getting along with somebody just because you don't get like to get along with them, is that a problem? Because like, I feel like maybe like she's the one that has more of a problem with me. And I thought it was you all this time.

34:42Ronnie Karam: But Alexi and Marisol are famous on this show for drawing those lines in the sand where they're like nope sides here are the sides you know and if you're not on this side then go inside then go back inside to the horrible horrible text on the screen you know so stephanie is like oh you know i felt like she's the one that has a problem with me now like i thought it was you she's oh like marisol and i mean like we're two different people you know but just so you know like i'm the one that has a bigger mouth you know so i'll say it but like she always thinks like me if not even more like me like she thinks so much like me she was thinking things i wasn't even thinking, you know?

35:18Ben Mandelker: What I'm trying to say is, if I say something, she always has my back. And if she says something, I have her back, but we'll throw her under the bus because I can do that because I'm a main cast member and star and she's a friend of.

35:28Ronnie Karam: Yeah, like I don't have to do that in the mudroom, you know? And I'm all about the truth, you know? Like whether it's truth, like somebody else is truth, I'll say it. So then back in the other room, Marisol's like, guys, I'm so nervous that Stephanie and Alexia are trapped in a soundproof room and we can't hear earth yelling. I mean, what are we supposed to, how am I supposed to hold this against somebody if I don't know what they're saying?

35:51Ben Mandelker: I need a real wallbanger to knock down that wall so we can hear something. Am I right? So then Alexis, yeah, back to the mudroom. I was going to say, Alexis just says that Marisol does not like confrontation at all. So this is not surprising.

36:05Ronnie Karam: So she's like, I woke up that day and Stephanie and I wanted to go and I was like, Marisol, you know, please let's go. Like, I don't want to do this. it's always the ones you least expect yeah i don't want to do this you know i didn't feel good about myself because like i don't like to hurt people you know i'm so sorry i hurt you but

36:21Ben Mandelker: it was marisol who did it oh you're okay i know i keep just it's great i love it i love it i like to just like marisol is like such a punching bag because she has to grin and take it she's a friend of if she ever wants to advance on this show she just has to play along so stephanie goes okay i'm gonna keep on saying this and i know it's it's and it's a positive although but it's not it's not a negative but it sounds like a negative but like it's a positive like you actually remind me of my sister but i like the same time i feel like my sisters don't even realize like they don't they truly don't even realize how much they hurt me and i'm like does alexa even know that she's hurting me unintentionally like my sisters are such fucking bitches they are like two c words like two c words on top of each other like if you put them back to back they would make an o because it's two c's together like they're really like the worst people in the world but really take it positively okay because you remind me exactly both of them together well i can relate to you

37:08Ronnie Karam: about that you're about your heart because like i have the same situation with my sister i do ever since my mom died i got like i like i talked to her now but like for two years we didn't talk any results oh my god your sisters hate you yeah they hate me so much oh my god so we're like sisters so why don't you be the sister that hates me and i'll be the sister that hates you okay so we can still hate each other yeah like sisters oh my god this makes me feel so much better

37:36Ben Mandelker: now i know why alexia doesn't like stephanie this is gonna be alexia's storyline i have a sister who doesn't like me so stephanie's like you know i don't talk to my sisters yeah so yeah we i didn't even realize this or i'd forgotten that she had a sister but apparently they just alexia doesn't talk to her sister either which now they're bonded over sisters that hate them which is so fucking funny to me alexia really is the simpsons of housewives like It's like Alexia did it first.

38:02Ronnie Karam: It always happened to Alexia first. So now Julia, Larsa, and Stephanie are walking together, and they run into Lisa, and she's taking selfies in the hallway, of course. And Stephanie's like, how did you beat us? And so she goes, guess who's the first one, ladies? Me. And the producer's like, wow, so how are you on time these days? What did you start doing differently, Lisa? And she's like, well, I set a timer for everything that I do to get ready. And it takes 30 minutes to do my makeup. And I have someone do my hair. And that usually takes an hour. And then to get dressed and pick out the outfit, that's 30 minutes.

38:40Ronnie Karam: Plus, put on my shoes, put my jewelry on, clean my jewelry off. That's another 20 minutes. And I edit it all up. And now that I know, now I know how long it takes me to get ready.

38:51Ben Mandelker: It's like three hours, right?

38:53Ronnie Karam: Doesn't say three hours at the bottom. Yeah, it says three hours. but she's just such a dingbat. I love that. She's like, well, it was very, she actually got a stop clock and did it, you know.

39:04Ben Mandelker: I like that it like finally dawned on her that like if she wants to be on time, she should actually consider how much time it takes to do the things she wants to do before she has to be somewhere.

39:16Ronnie Karam: So now people come join them at the table and Gertie has these like lace rabbit ears on with a lace thing covering her eyes. Yes.

39:28Ben Mandelker: Gritty, can you see me where you're going? Like, what is this like? This is crazy. Like, I think Gritty like missed the memo, like for the attire for like the evening. Cause she looks like she's going to a swingers party in Fort Lauderdale. And I was like, wow, I don't know what the politics are. And by politics, I mean social politics are between like Fort Lauderdale, Miami, but I just have to sense that like someone from Miami saying, you look like you're going to a party in Fort Lauderdale had to be one of the most withering things you can say. Yes. Is that like saying to someone in Manhattan, wow, where are you going?

40:00Ben Mandelker: Satin Island. Because the way she said Fort Lauderdale, I was like, oh, shit. I don't even fully understand the dynamics of that disc, but I know it was scathing.

40:10Ronnie Karam: Yeah, Lauderdale just got burned, baby. So, okay, I'll start a conversation. When was the last time any of you got laid? Two days ago. Two days ago. I know you want to know. Like, everyone wants to know. Like, when I got laid.

40:25Ben Mandelker: Yeah, everyone really wants to know, sis. Everyone wants to know. Like, my sister never tells me. So you please tell me. So we can, like, mend the sister relationship.

40:32Ronnie Karam: And Marisol's all annoyed. And so Kiki's like, oh, wait, do you know something we don't know, Marisol? Well, I only have one sexual partner. And the last time we saw each other was probably Wednesday or Thursday night. So I guess then. Booty call. No, no, it's not a booty call because he's my husband. Okay, so don't call it a booty call. I don't like that, you know. It's not the walk of shame because that's my husband. Okay. I'm joking. I'm joking. Right. But you know, I'm very sensitive and that's my husband. So you say walk of shame and you say booty call and then you know what's going to happen, you know, and I'm going to put my head kind of sideways and not a very fast one.

41:08Ronnie Karam: I blink more slowly. Okay. That's what's going to happen. I'm going to get very sensitive about it.

41:14Ben Mandelker: Julia's telling us that, um, hearing that Alexia had sex with Todd two days ago, she's like, Oh, well, clearly I plan to get our thoughts away from Todd. Didn't work out so well. No, it didn't work out as well, especially because you spent no time on the screws whatsoever trying to lure her away into the arms of another man or anything like that. You've spent literally no effort trying to get her to not think about Todd. But yeah, but either way, Alexia's like, my husband, my husband, absolutely my husband. I slept with my husband. It's right. It's my husband.

41:42Ronnie Karam: So did you guys argue at all? No, zero arguing. What about you girls? Did you argue? Why are you asking me if I argued? Did you? Larissa's like, no, no, like, I didn't like her. You like, guys, I love this. It's beautiful. I can't believe you pulled it together. Look at Lisa and Larsa getting along, everything. I mean, we're actually getting along. I didn't know you guys could do it. You really impressed me. I'm just so happy. And to Mighty Mouse, our new addition. We love you, Mighty. We love you.

42:11Ben Mandelker: All's well and ends well. I'm so proud that I was able to orchestrate this wonderful season finale. All right, cheers, everyone. We're going to keep on filming Marisol. That's okay with you.

42:23Ronnie Karam: So now Stephanie is like, Marisol has two faces. And depending on what you're facing, you get a different story. Because one face says one thing. And then the other face says another thing. Because she's got two faces.

42:34Ben Mandelker: So then Adriana is sitting there, Moby. So they throw like a napkin at her. Oh, yeah. Come on. Smile. Whatever. She's like, oh. But then the cake comes and it has a microphone on it. It's like really cute. And it's like, yeah, happy birthday. Happy birthday. Everything's like great. and wonderful and like Adriana is finally smiling and then they look at the cake and the cake says 32 times 2 minus 5 equals 59. How is that supposed to make it any better? How is that? You're still putting, first of all, you're still putting 59 onto the cake. But you're just adding math to it.

43:08Ronnie Karam: Marisol totally ordered this cake. A hundred percent Marisol ordered this. And Grinny's like, who didn't pick up the memo that she hates her birthday and she wants no part of it? And now we've got a whole numerical system happening on top about the birthday cake? Come on. Come on.

43:22Ben Mandelker: This did not help things. Oh my God, we're pouring salt on the flame. Like, salt on the wound. Oh my God, someone got wounded? No, it's an expression. What?

43:35Ronnie Karam: So, Adriana just flashes him the bird. And so now it's time for boys, guys. So, handsome men come in and they've got shot trays and light sticks. And so, Adriana's like, I don't know who did this cake and why? Because I hate this cake, but it's nice that the girls did it. Guys, we're going to go to the Scarlet Party now. They go to a poolside dance party, and everyone's dancing red. They have a great time, guys. And the cruise ends on a high.

44:06Ben Mandelker: But the season continues because now we're back in Miami and we're in Julia's home, and she needs some diapers for the goat.

44:15Ronnie Karam: and for the goat yes so then we go to lisa's house and she's getting a congressman haircut for her son logan and god that guy is just a little lenny isn't he he's really he really is he's just a little tiny lenny he's like hey uh ma uh give me a conservative haircut and also get me a voice teacher for my new girlfriend she's going places have you seen that kiki Ben? No. Lenny put on Instagram like, hey, give me anyone know talented voice coaches in the Miami area. People are like, oh no, he's got this new 20-year-old girlfriend or whatever. I was going to say five, that's creepy. 20, which is creepy, but it's not five creepy.

44:59Ronnie Karam: 20-year-old girlfriend or whatever. Well, it's five plus five plus

45:02Ben Mandelker: five plus six minus one.

45:05Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and he got her a vocal coach because he's gonna make her a singer he's gonna make her into a famous singer so then she put herself on instagram singing and she's got the big headphones on and like a vocal mic with a spit guard or whatever and she's like somewhere over the rainbows yeah bluebirds fly somewhere over the rainbow or whatever she's singing and it's just so lenny oh my god we're gonna make you a star kid

45:38Ben Mandelker: Total Lenny. Sell it. Kiki's driving around in her Land Rover and she calls Shamar who's not picking up. Her daughter, Summer, is in the back saying, What happened to Shamar? I do not know. Shamar's kissing a girl. She's like, Shamar's kissing a girl? How do you know? She smiles. It's cute. It's funny.

46:00Ronnie Karam: So then Russell and Gertie go to therapy. Dun, dun, dun. Um, so they go in and meet with the doctor and, uh, Gertie's like, you know, I should have done this a long time ago, but like, it's never, Oh, this is not couples therapy. Russell's just driving her to her therapy. Right. So this is her first day at singles therapy. And I was like, what kind of therapy is this? Cause you walk in and there's just like a bunch of lotion bottles and Kleenex. And I was like, Oh, it's like gay guy therapy. But then I realized it was probably like hand sanitizer.

46:32Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And there was like a little, the doctor's desk had like a little thing that said the anger volcano. And it had like this volcano exploding. And it was like all these like rage, like fury, resentment. I was like, oh, I love a therapist who loves visual tools.

46:45Ronnie Karam: Yeah. This is a word art therapist. There was a big pillow on the couch and it said something like healing vibes, loving vibes. Yeah. Feeling vibes or whatever.

46:57Ben Mandelker: It's very, Iyanla Van Zandt. I remember with Starting Over, she once had someone in the Starting Over house. in order to get over the luggage that she brought or the baggage that she had, not the luggage, the baggage she had in her relationship. They had her like carry actual luggage across the driveway and was like, there, you've left your luggage behind. You've been carrying it, now put it down. Now keep walking. God, I love that show. There's a generation of people that do not know about starting over and all the literal visual therapy they would do on that show. Like the time they brought one lady they had they put one lady into a courtroom and had a mannequin that represented her be like her prosecutor or something like that and the judge was della reese it was just della reese that was that was real therapy right there back when therapy meant something so gertie is saying yeah i was gonna say this this therapist seems fun

47:58Ronnie Karam: yeah i mean i mean tell a Reese isn't here so you're kind of failing but um thanks for the hand sanitizer okay so um they talk about what brought gertie here and she's saying that um basically she's saying you know she was can't she's cancer free now you know and she it was like amazing girl power and all that but she wakes up and she sees her body and she's like oh my god i didn't ask for this like where's my body what are all these changes and so she's like no i think you need to go back further to your original trauma like your earliest traumas because obviously it started way before this so gertie talks about how her and her brother came to america and they were told they're going to stay with quote-unquote family but she's like i don't know these people and then they get stuck there.

48:47Ronnie Karam: They don't know the language. They weren't even allowed to leave their room. Kids were mean. They made fun of her name. They made fun of everything about her. They would come diss her to her face and she didn't even know till later when she asked what things meant because she didn't know the language. And it just sounds fucking horrible. My God, the way she was talking about being a little girl and experiencing all that was so sad.

49:10Ben Mandelker: It was a very sad story. Yeah. and she also equates it to, not equates it, but she draws a link to what she feels her behavior and they sort of show flashbacks of her fighting with Julia and everything and saying that she has certain reactions that seem to be trauma based, which I love that she's in therapy and dealing with her trauma, but I also think that Julia was being an asshole. I think that's I don't think that has to do with your childhood in the sense of you don't have to worry that you have unresolved trauma, which is why you react a certain way you reacted the right way which was that julia was being an asshole and you

49:44Ronnie Karam: did the right thing yeah so yeah but she's saying it reminds her being bullied as a kid in school you know which what and then we see a clip of what happened and it is very bullying you know and everybody like don't talk to gertie and all that stuff i did like the story about her name though because it's so gertie she goes yeah you know my name was elisha bah and they couldn't pronounce it so automatically we have bullying with my name bullying with my name you know and so i changed my name um so now you know and i'm thinking well if you're like they're bowling for your name like the first choice would be alicia right because your name is alicia so it seems like he would just switch to alerted she's like i was bullied for my name so i went for gertie and i was like yes gertie and she's talking about how it's so powerful because now it's her whole brand you know she's taking that and she's turned it into her whole brand but it's even hearing the name reminds her that she changed it because she was made fun of for her first name.

50:40That's a lot of sad shit.

50:42Ben Mandelker: I felt bad for her, but I'm glad that she's on the road and that's therapist basically echoes that. Now we go to Marisol's house. Alexia arrives with Frankie because Marisol and Steve are going to have Alexia and Frankie over. Steve's going to make Thor and Steve's cooking dinner, guys. Steve puts out some varsity soccer team dinner shit of like pasta with like meat sauce and like a ice cream salad on the side. I was like, okay, very exciting stuff. I expected more from Steve because

51:13Ronnie Karam: isn't he like the gourmet chef or whatever? Now, the pasta sauce did look quite good, but I was surprised that he just poured it over some cooked pasta. Like, that's not how you do it. Instead of mixing it all together. Yeah, you got to mix it up there, boy. You can't just pour sauce on top of the rigatoni. Come on, rigafoni. That's why I felt like it was like a rigafoni, sir.

51:33Ben Mandelker: that's what I felt like it was like a sports dinner or something like that or like the dinners we used to do at my fraternity where we like it's like pasta night and someone like heats up the frozen you know garlic bread and someone makes a giant thing of ragu and then pours it over the chewy pasta um so then marisol doesn't even eat by the way they're all sitting there eating and of course has an empty plate and she's like some vegan cheese had some vegan cheese right before this lady you knew you were having guests over for dinner why did you have vegan cheese

52:03Ronnie Karam: right before this no i respect it you stay starving girl so then um they come in and i'm

52:10Ben Mandelker: like just pretend just put the food on your plate for the for for the show like you're just sitting there like we're watching as an audience this big white glaring empty plate in the foreground at least like just for the symmetry of it all just put some pasta on there and just give it to Eve later.

52:24Ronnie Karam: So Marisol's like, oh, Frankie, how handsome. Look who's here. Handsome Frankie. Am I right, Steve? What a honey. Hey, Steve, will you make us a couple of drinks? And Frankie goes, Marisol, a little bit drunk today. A little bit. He's like, oh, take it down a notch. He's saying, take it down. Yes, thank you. He doesn't even know what he's talking about. I haven't had a drink all day, Frankie.

52:51Ben Mandelker: Marisol, you're talking to Avaz. Oh, Frankie, you're over there. You don't know what you're talking about.

52:56Ronnie Karam: I'm not drunk. I love it. She goes, I haven't had a drink all day, Frankie. And he goes, please.

53:04Ben Mandelker: I'm not only a great bartender, I'm a great cruise director. I'm so happy this cruise was fucking awesome. Thank you, everyone. Can I be a full-fledged cast member yet? No, when do we get this to happen? I took this entire cast onto a free cruise, and you still won't make me a cast member. Why?

53:21Ronnie Karam: All right. Well, have you talked about moving in a good direction with Todd, with Peter? Like, how's Peter reacting to the Todd stuff? No, because this has happened so quickly between Todd and I. You know, it's only been a whole season that I've been back together with Todd, but not telling anybody about it. So I didn't have time to tell Peter, you know, and we didn't have time to talk about it. But, you know, he knows I talk with Todd and, you know, well, you know, Peter, you know, he's always like very reserved. And like he never has anything negative to say. well really anything in a sentence he can't really do sentences yet but you know like he's not said anything

53:55Ben Mandelker: he doesn't really talk much right well he doesn't really have an opinion no he doesn't really he doesn't have too many brain cells left either I have to say like a lot of weed a lot of weed happening there well he just

54:07Ronnie Karam: stands to himself and that's not good either you know I mean he can't keep to himself all the time you know you're gonna talk to people there's people in the world you need to talk to them How are you going to be upset if somebody goes to lunch if you're not out there being friends with people and going to lunch with them?

54:24Ben Mandelker: And she's like, well, you know, but soon we'll all be going out together again. Well, who do you mean we're all going out together again? You know, like us, like the old gang, like fun times with Todd.

54:35Ronnie Karam: Yeah, you know, like me, you, Steve, this is going to be so fun, you know? Like Todd was just saying the other day, you know, I wish I had some like cooked pasta with some sauce haphazardly poured over it.

54:48Ben Mandelker: Referably from a jar. And Frankie's like, Marisol's like, I mean, Steve, Steve, do you hear what he's saying? I'm going to slap you on the arm, Steve. Steve, do you hear? And Frankie goes, Marisol.

55:02Ronnie Karam: It's like, come on. Come on, Marisol. Too much.

55:09Ronnie Karam: So, let's see. So then Marisol's like, all right i don't know if we can go on a double date steams still very upset you know he doesn't like the way that tom treated alexia and so she's like okay so now we gotta like him again i hurt for you but my hurt isn't the same as your hurt i get it because my heart my heart i hurt for you she's like well luckily for me i'm like past all the hurt you know because like it was very hurtful it was so hurtful you guys but like it's painful but like it was painful for him too you know and And when you love each other, it's hard to know the other person's in pain, you know?

55:43Ronnie Karam: But now I know, I was in pain too. It was very difficult for Todd.

55:47Ben Mandelker: You know, like, of course, well, you know, Peter, I want Marisol to support my decision to be with Todd and to spend time with Todd. But like, it's not up to her, you know, like this is my relationship and she's just a friend of, okay? And at this point, it should be only between him and a star, which is me, because like, we're really putting in the effort to make things work.

56:05Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Okay. Well, maybe stop sobbing and telling everybody he's a narcissist who's ruining your life. And that all narcissists should die. Yeah. He's literally texting me right now. Oh, I'm telling you, there's a listening device. I'm telling you, I'm going to end up at the bottom of the Miami River. This isn't going to end well for me.

56:23Ben Mandelker: Let's go to the Shoma Bazaar, shall we? So Stephanie walks in and there's like assistants around. She's like, you, stand up straight. You, mop that floor. You, there's a cobweb. Go find it and clean it up. Come on. Okay, we have one hour to finalize the Christmas party. Let's do a quick run through of everything we're going to do for the event. Okay. Where's that crazy guy with a beard in Santa? Yeah. Whoever he is. Where's he? Where is he? Is he going to get in here? You can sit over there. Okay. Come on. Show them what bizarre. We are fun.

56:47Ronnie Karam: We are fun. Why is this like the lobby of a Hyatt place? I just don't understand this space. I don't understand what it is. Is it a restaurant? Is it a waiting room for the, for the office?

56:57Ben Mandelker: I feel like it's like a, a workspace. It's like a, almost like a WeWorky kind of space. Like that's at the base of like one of these, one of like their apartment buildings. So like the idea is that like you come down to this sort of common area. You can get food. You can do work. It's like a, you don't need to leave. You don't need to leave Shoma. Everything is here. Don't leave Shoma. Don't leave Shoma.

57:22Ronnie Karam: Oh, we have Santa Claus, Mrs. Claus, all of the Christmas treats, the toys for the tots. Okay. This there, this there. Stop smiling. Stop frowning. Everybody get it together. I'm a boss woman. so then um here comes uh adriana because she's gonna be the entertainment for the evening with her band so i'm gonna give you a quick rundown of how it's gonna go okay we have this whole space be your concert and she's like okay where's the piano i want it on the front of the stage because like we have a 10 people band you know it's gonna be big so a full band and this is like the best musicians because they're people who work with emilio stefan you know they they they play for all the big names, Louis Fonzie, Shakira, the best musicians Miami has.

58:06Ben Mandelker: And I'm sure they can't wait to brag about how they also played for a real house off of Miami in the lobby of an apartment building.

58:13Ronnie Karam: They said the only most recent concert that they played that was more impressive than mine was the board that attacked Shakira. I mean, that's a big deal.

58:26Ben Mandelker: So, yeah, Adrian was like, you know, I work so hard on my music. I've been writing songs recording songs, rehearsing the piano. And Stephanie's like, okay, well, you're going to kill it. You want to have something to drink? Okay. So they sit down. And she's saying that, like, Adriana is saying that she's grateful to Stephanie because she's only known her for a small amount of time, but she's been more supportive than some friends that she's just known for decades.

58:49Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So they are talking about the show a little bit, and then they move on to the cruise and why she was so upset. And she's like, well, there's two things. One, I miss my boyfriend because he's been in Paris for now like six weeks. And, you know, I'm a creative artistic type, so I'm very sensitive. And I just, when I hear all the constant fighting and the meanness, I just can't take it. You know, my brain, what are you talking about? You are the fightiest, meaniest person on the show. By the way, please don't change. But literally everybody is worrying about you because you're not fighting and causing negativity.

59:25Ronnie Karam: Everyone's like, oh, my God, Adrienne is not being toxic. Is she okay? Yeah.

59:30Ben Mandelker: She's like, I just hate being around negativity. You wrote a letter on behalf of Marisol's liver to Marisol.

59:38Ronnie Karam: Still one of my favorite housewives moments that will always make me laugh. That was so good.

59:44Ben Mandelker: That's one of the funniest things that they ever did. So Stephanie's like, hearing you talk about the art and hearing you talk about the concert, it's like I'm actually seeing happiness in your face. You're actually really smiling, which is why I got you a cupcake that says you're still 59. Okay. Oh, good. Now the smile's gone. Ah, I feel great. Happy holidays.

1:00:02Ronnie Karam: So I had a talk with Alexia and she mentioned in the sauna that Marisol's really upset that you and I hit it off. And Adriana just gives us a little smile like, of course she did. You know, she's like, that's very mature. That's like very high school. And, you know, like maybe sorority type situation where we can have our clique. She's like, yeah, but Alexia said verbatim, Marisol's the one behind it. I'm just her mouthpiece. Okay, that wasn't verbatim, first of all, but close enough.

1:00:29Ben Mandelker: wasn't yeah adriana's like oh what what i've been saying for years marisol is puppet master but she needs a mouthpiece and a puppet so we see flashbacks of marisol being a puppet master which i don't think that marisol is really a puppet master but i do think that she is non-confrontational and has alexia fight her battles she's one of the shadiest on this show

1:00:50Ronnie Karam: i think she comes on and acts all nice to everybody why are we fighting girls but then behind the scenes, she's like, she went to lunch with Stephanie, let's make her pay, we're not going on her fucking plane. Yeah, she's passive aggressive. Yeah, so then she's, Adriana is saying, well, you have to understand, Marisol had a PR company that went nowhere, so she knows how to influence people that go nowhere. She just uses all this knowledge, you know, she's got so much. And Stephanie's like, well, that's a horrible way to use your knowledge.

1:01:20Ben Mandelker: How mad are you that you didn't go on the plane to Marbella? To Julia's big announcement when I had given the seat next to me, the seat on the Shoma plane. That's a rare seat. Special people get to sit in that seat, and I gave it to her, and she didn't accept it. I know what I'm going up against, and I have a message for you. The message is, if you're going to come for me, you better hit a bullseye, because when it's my turn, I don't miss. Happy holidays.

1:01:45Ronnie Karam: So, now Stephanie's going to come for Marisol. I worry for her, because that's not an easy task, ma 'am, but good luck. Good luck to you.

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