#3006 RHOM S7E16: The Icing on the Cake

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1:26Ben Mandelker: Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens?

1:56Ben Mandelker: about Real Housewives of Miami. Before we get into that, tonight is crappy hour. It's on YouTube. Go check out our YouTube channel. It's there. It's a YouTube live experience. Starts at 5.30 on the West Coast, 8.30 on the East Coast. It's also simulcast on Instagram, so you can watch it there. But if you're on YouTube, you can actually join us. We pull people up onto the stage and talk with them at the end of the show. So come join us for that. We always have a blast talking about headlines, et cetera. We also have a wonderful Patreon. We have a bonus episode every single week. Last week we did.

2:26Ben Mandelker: trailer trash where we broke down every single shot and scene and moment of the new housewives edition of wife swap that they're bringing out. And before that, we also did the trailer breakdown for Salt Lake City and for Potomac and Med, all that fun stuff. And then we sometimes just shoot the shit. So that's on Patreon where we also have a video offering where you can watch us, not just listen. So patreon.com slash watch our crap ins. That's all the good stuff. And that's all the administrative housekeeping out of the way. Let's dive into it. It's our second to last episode of Miami before the reunions, of course.

3:00Ben Mandelker: Shall we just dive in, Ronnie? How'd you feel? How are you feeling? What's new? What's going on?

3:04Ronnie Karam: It was so cram. I mean, look, Adriana, I'm rooting for you, but oh, this ending with Adriana was like, no, please, no, please. It's so funny. It's so funny. It's so ridiculous. It's just so wrong. I'm like, please just stop this. um but she has a black friend she has a black friend oh when she when she willed out the black friend i can't believe the whole i have a black friend and she said i'm not racist say it say it i'm not racist right she's like no she's not racist see you heard it here first a black friend said it i'm not a racist i was like oh my god no one called you a racist what are you doing here

3:48Ben Mandelker: Oh, God. But shall we go back? To the beginning. Ah. Which is Larsa's moving day. She's like moving out of her apartment, like, to like her house, like, because it's going to be like a house, like. Hey, Claudia, like, like, what do you need me to help you with? Because you want me to do this and that and XYZ? Because I can do that, like.

4:09Ronnie Karam: Claudia, like, what are you, like, going to do, like, with that, like, picture of me, like, standing by the pool in a swimsuit, like. Like, I need to make sure the artist, like, hung did it right. Like, come on, Claudia.

4:19Ben Mandelker: Come on, Claudia, like. And then Lisa and Jodi are walking on the beach, and it's windy. And he's like, oh, my God, it's so windy. I keep on, like, almost losing my hat. Like, it's so windy, my jaw might get blown open for a second. It's crazy.

4:33Ronnie Karam: The personality literally just got blown out of my body. Yeah, it's literally blowing me away. My hat. So she's chasing a hat.

4:42Ben Mandelker: And now it's three days. She's not just chasing. She's torturing the audience because the wind blows her hat off and it goes tumbling down the hill. And watching Lisa chase this hat was actually, it was like a dream. You know, in a dream where you're running to get someplace, but you're not getting there. It's like, Lisa, this hat is blowing in slow motion and Lisa's like, ah. And she's running after it and she cannot seem to reach it or pick it up. She finally gets it. But watching her just not able to catch up with the hat. And then when she does catch up, when she reaches down, she misses it.

5:12Ben Mandelker: I was like, this is low key causing me to have a panic attack.

5:17Ronnie Karam: So you have the dream where you're chasing, you're like, you're running, but you never get somewhere. Sometimes I do. What are you running towards, Ben? Larsa Pippen.

5:29Ben Mandelker: I'm like, get to your house. Like you have to start a podcast.

5:32Ronnie Karam: Like I don't have that one, but I do have one that I'm walking around in different cities, different places. and I'm almost, you know, where I'm supposed to meet my friends or family or whoever's in the dream. And I never get there. And it's like all night. The dream goes all night. And I go into all sorts of different rooms and situations and hang out with different kinds of people. But I just never find the people I'm looking for. I mean, it's just so on the nose, you know?

5:57Ben Mandelker: I've had a few dreams lately where I've been actually like hugging dogs and liking dogs. Aw, I want that dream. I do it in real life. It's actually really cute.

6:06Ronnie Karam: I'm living my dream life, basically. So it's three days before Art Basel and Adriana is so excited. Art Basel is around the corner where the best is now, Miami. And everyone from all over the world comes to see what we have to show. It's not Basel, by the way. It's not an orb. It's Basel, like the detective in the Great Mouse Detective.

6:32Ben Mandelker: Basel. Yeah.

6:35Ronnie Karam: So she tells us all about Art Basel. They've got 90 ,000 people in one week. It's crazy. And Stephanie's like, yeah, Art Basel is the it week to be in Miami. Yeah.

6:49Ben Mandelker: It's so fun. What I do is I fly my private plane from Shoma Bazaar all the way down to South Beach across the bridge. And it is the best. Yeah. There's like artists from like all around the world, like, and like people fly in, like, and like they come like, it's like they fly in from like Paris from like everywhere.

7:11Ronnie Karam: Like, yeah. It's so much. They come from so many other places, like Paris. And like. Paris. It's like the only place I can like really think of.

7:24Ben Mandelker: No, like they also come from like Paris.

7:28Ronnie Karam: Paris. Yeah. They come from like Paris. It's like, we not only celebrate the art of it, but we celebrate fashion and we celebrate music. And that's what we do. That's how we do it. Please celebrate in front of Frankie. That's what he needs right now. That's what he needs.

7:43Ben Mandelker: It bring the whole city alive. Never more gods in Miami than during Art Puzzle. And Lisa's like, yeah, everyone plans their outfits on where they're going to go. And it's like, you know, for some people, like not myself, it's like really difficult to get into some of the parties. Although, I guess I wasn't invited to Lenny's party this year.

8:02Ronnie Karam: Lenny! Lenny! Well, I've been in the art world now for two decades. I've represented international artists from France, Sweden, Brazil, and also I've worked with our friend Martina even and gave her a solo show. So don't forget, I'm a good friend. Don't forget about it.

8:20Ben Mandelker: Here's my art where I hit tennis balls into a canvas and pretended it was Andre Agassi's face.

8:27Ronnie Karam: these pieces were made on the first court i played tennis on in my hometown in the czech republic oh that's basically an unusable space now but i got a picture out of it that probably never sold i don't really know what happened to that art we never really heard i don't know i can't believe that didn't take off a lady hitting a ball at a canvas full of paint how did that not take off

8:52Ben Mandelker: yeah i don't know well this art basal i have found this new emerging artist from britain and i'm gonna bring him to my the miami show to show his exquisite artwork but at night when the light comes down it is party time and by party time it means i'm going to prove to everyone i'm

9:10Ronnie Karam: not racist i'm this is the super bowl of art and her assistant's like um or the world cup okay or the world cup well said then you're fired do not argue with me about super bowl i've been here decades decades so now we go to a plane hanger and kiki's getting her hair makeup done because

9:32Ben Mandelker: she's going to be doing a photo shoot and la rest her father arrives i think there's something i just i have to get off my chest which is that like i think the rest he's an attractive man isn't it weird to have like an attractive dad on the show i texted courtney from two judgy girls I was like, you know what? I think Larest has to go into your March Madness poll this year, right? Like this guy.

9:54Ronnie Karam: I mean, he's handsome. Yeah, he's handsome.

9:57Ben Mandelker: He's handsome. Like, I would say that Larest, I would say he qualifies to be a hot dad. Larest is a hot dad. And I just want to put it out there. I feel like we have not. I'm sorry.

10:06Ronnie Karam: Did you not watch Nicole's final season with her father? That guy was a stud. R.I.P. That guy was hot as hell.

10:16Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Well, the point is that Kiki comes from good stock. So they say hi. And this is the resolution of the storyline, which, you know, I'm so happy that they gave Kiki a storyline this season. I can't say I'm very compelled by it. So I sort of like I'm rooting for her. But basically, it's that everyone in Haiti thinks that models are sluts and whores and prostitutes. And she is proving that guess what? You're not.

10:42Ronnie Karam: When you're a model, you're actually just a professional. so i actually like her storyline because i've never heard any of this stuff before you know it's like fresh like the um it's a fresh storyline which i like you know because most of these are just recycled but i like the whole like her family from haiti is now threatening her and she had to have her dad go talk to them i mean she's got a lot going on that one actually i kind of like she

11:05Ben Mandelker: does she does but like i also felt like i felt like we sort of put a pin in it a few episodes ago so it's like it's one of those things where it's like it's back and i'm like oh okay we're still trying to tell this dad that like what she does is actually something you should be proud of

11:22Ronnie Karam: he also got her dad to eat um salmon so it's i mean you're right it's going a pretty good clip for me uh so he's like oh you look so gorgeous my daughter and she's like oh the first time you're going to see me do a photo shoot first time so i'm excited you're here look my dad's so proud of me My dad kicked me out for modeling. But now I'm modeling. So she models and he's like, wow, you're modeling. She's like, look, I'm modeling. He's like, this is crazy. You're modeling. She's like, dad, papa, I'm modeling. That's good.

11:57Ben Mandelker: Yeah, and he's like taking videos. He's like a proud dad and everything. And it's exciting. And now she's happy because he's proud of her. So now we go to Larsa's new home. and um she is she's outside and there's like this big piece of like fake jeff coons art that's being unloaded into her backyard i just like wow this is like gorgeous like it's like oh my god i love it like a big metallic like animal like this is amazing and apparently it's um it's a piece of conceptual art from uh someone named wizby or oh no what i'm sorry i thought his name was wisby but it's w h and it's capital i s and it's b like who is he who is he who's b who's b i don't know if this guy is a big artist or not because if he's a big influential artist then i'm making a fool of myself but if he's just a guy then i am doing my job well which is being like who the fuck is

12:54Ronnie Karam: this person whizby yeah that's what i would call him he's a street artist okay and he's super into gummy bears. He does gummy bear art. That's what he does. He's got gummy bear art. And if you look him up, you can see lots of gummy bears. He does gummy bear paintings. He does gummy bear sculptures. I think I've actually seen these small gummy bears, big gummy bears. I mean, is that even legal? Those are already a thing.

13:19Ben Mandelker: I think I actually have seen this stuff around, but either way, Wisby, he's actually like, I feel like he's like one of these people who's like a model turned artist. He sort of has that look because he's like he's like a very good looking guy but he's like look i do like oversized jeff coons like art but

13:37Ronnie Karam: it's like my own thing but they're literally all gummy bears i guess i would suggest that wispy maybe you know show some artistic growth i don't know maybe like a gummy worm why why are we not seeing gummy worms by pools you know branch out babe you you can do more you're so talented It's like when you take a drawing class when you're young, like I used to trace stuff and I figured out how to draw like an eye. Like my first thing. And I would just draw eyes everywhere. And my mom told a shrink when I was a kid. Shocker that I had to go to a shrink when I was a kid. But she was like, he's drawing eyes everywhere.

14:15Ronnie Karam: And they were trying to like figure out why I kept drawing eyes. It's literally all I knew how to draw. Okay. So then I branched out and I learned how to draw Droopy Dog from the cartoons. and then I was drawing Drippy Dog everywhere and I'll bet that really threw him for a fucking loop. So I think Wisby's got the same problem. Go to a child therapist and just confuse everybody. That's my advice.

14:36Ben Mandelker: Well, Wisby, I'm on Wisby's Wikipedia page. Wisby does seem to be, by the way, a legitimate artist. And I'm like, Wisby, what's kimchi? But he's a legitimate artist. But the Wikipedia page, that's a callback to Food Network Star where they were auditioning people and someone had to cook with kimchi and she acted like it was an alien species.

14:59Ronnie Karam: Kimchi? Kimchi? What is this? What the heck? What am I supposed to do with this stinky stuff? I don't even know what this is. Who knows what kimchi is? Kimchi.

15:10Ben Mandelker: So this is what's funny to me. This is the Wikipedia page for Wisby. It says, Wisby is a New York City-based street artist of unverified identity known for both the street art and fine art. So is that meaning that we don't know what his real name is, if it's unverified identity, or is it like we don't know who he is? Because if we're not supposed to know who he is, I'll just leave the top off that one.

15:31Ronnie Karam: Why do we have a Wikipedia? Am I right, ladies? I think it's kind of going against Wisby's brand.

15:38Ben Mandelker: Last time I checked, you didn't have a boat like Dick. Am I right, everyone? Wisby, more like cocky. Can you get me one?

15:44Ronnie Karam: I'll tell you who you're not finding in a phone box. Wisby, am I right?

15:50Ben Mandelker: Wisby. to Wizbee or to not Wizbee that is the question. Who is this guy? Am I right? Unverified identity. The only reason why he's unverified is because no one even cares to know what his name is in the first place.

16:01Ronnie Karam: Hi you guys. Like this is Larsa. Here's my feed. Okay. Look. Look at this sick like beautiful bear just like got like like the man that like legend to like whiz like be like himself came here to like give me like a bear like. Okay. That's that's your payment. Thanks for coming over with me. You just got You just got Instagram by Larsa Pippen Congratulations You like Rich Lack Yeah

16:25Ben Mandelker: Unfortunately he's not a basketball player So I won't be having a relationship with him So he can leave now Bye This is like my first official night In like my new like house And like the only thing done Is the kitchen and the living room And like my bedroom in the backyard Is like under construction Bye Whisby Bye You can leave now So like Yeah I didn't stay under budget Like this house cost me like a fortune Like

16:49Ronnie Karam: We see it cost like$5 million. Yeah, and everything's still under construction. Everything's still under construction. And hell no, I didn't like stay. So Stephanie arrives and she's like, oh my God, it's a house. It's a house under construction. I really thought this house was going to be more done, but it's like not done. It's like living in a construction zone. This is crazy. Like I'm coming over to visit somebody when their house is under construction.

17:18Ben Mandelker: Por favor, senor. Could you give us some privacy? Sorry, I'm just amused to saying that in construction sites. Sorry, Larsa. It's an instinct.

17:26Ronnie Karam: I thought you were going to have a pajama party with me. Why are you in clothes? She's like, oh, I got them in my purse. Okay. I mean, I was expecting furniture, but there's no furniture because it's a construction zone. This is nuts.

17:39Ben Mandelker: This is like the craziest thing I've ever seen. They toast and then Alexia shows up and she's like, oh my God, this is beautiful. like this is like almost as nice as like the Alexi and Frankie beauty lab like this is actually so beautiful like you're moving into construction everything's going on like it's crazy because like Todd like we're under construction so it's basically like moving into Todd you're in Todd

17:56Ronnie Karam: right now I love it but like this is like the first like house like that I've like owned by myself like so like it's like totally different like sensibilities than like my husband like Scotty like I'm a girl you you've changed your faces more times than you've changed the house oh my god they show her back and they just show her from behind i was like the editors really like you this season for giving you that yeah well it's actually really funny as we see a side

18:20Ben Mandelker: by side of her of the house she lived in in 2010 in this house and the one in 2010 was sort of like maybe faux tuscan ish or whatever yeah tuscan faux paintings and then this one is like a stark cold you know modern miami house and i just thought it was so funny when she's like now I can decide how I want my house to be. It doesn't have to be super masculine anymore. Did you see the before and after? Like you're actually, you're in like the, you're like in the cold European male house right now. It's like, finally a feminine house. Nothing but concrete walls.

18:55Ronnie Karam: The other one was just Florida Lee everywhere and like faux paintings. She's like,

18:59Ben Mandelker: oh my God, that's like so manly. That manly house. I'm just so glad I could be in just like a woman's den with stainless steel surfaces and right angles.

19:12Ronnie Karam: It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

19:19Ben Mandelker: Your space should feel like you, and if it doesn't, that's probably not a taste problem. It's a budget problem, and Wayfair really can fix that. What did your space look like before Wayfair, Ronnie? What were you most excited to change or refresh about your current space? Because I'll tell you one thing. This office that I record out of, it was just a generic office, four walls and a little green carpet. And then I went to Wayfair and I got two comfy chairs and I put them right behind this desk with some microphones. And boom, I now have a recording studio and I'm so excited to use it.

19:49Ronnie Karam: Oh, yeah. I mean, I got my rug in my office from Wayfair. I got my curtains from Wayfair. I got a couple of chairs. I got all my outdoor furniture from Wayfair. I love that place because it's also great to order things and have it put together. You know, you can have you have the option with Wayfair that they just come. They deliver it. They put it together in the room that you want. And boom, you're done. You're not messing around with the little, you know, tools and all of that stuff. So it's my jam, baby.

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21:06Ronnie Karam: So they talk about the kids and her kids are really excited because Preston's graduating so he's going to come home, but Sophia wants to stay in LA for high school. And she's like, yeah, I can't be that mom that's like, no, you have to come here and finish high school like you're like. That's just not fair. Plus, Sophia would always be like you're like. So that's gross. so you know my kids are on like autopilot

21:31Ben Mandelker: yeah my kids are on like autopilot like so which is my way of saying this way I don't have to deal with them I can just be here and do my TV show like yeah

21:42Ronnie Karam: so Alexia is saying so what do you do with all this big house then if you don't have the kids like what are you going to do do you want Frankie to come over he likes big houses he can walk around you can do stuff in front of Frankie

21:53Ben Mandelker: he loves that you can yeah you know what build this house with men this is this house you know what i you know what i love about the super feminine house that you can just fit it with men you can have like lots of men here there's probably a room for ac for jody

22:03Ronnie Karam: like you can have so much fun here with all the men here let me ask you like a question that like alexia like what's going like going on with you like in your man like oh i don't know you know because todd and i were like dating again we're having so much fun because like we're dating you know so like we're together so it's fun but like isn't like the three-month extension like almost over like yeah it's done like january 1st something like that like january 1st exactly like possibly maybe around then but january 1st yeah on that day first like a couple of weeks like yeah yeah we haven't talked about it like we haven't talked about it though but it's like coming like

22:37Ben Mandelker: yeah it's coming he's gonna like bamboozle you like he's oh give to bamboo oh bamboozling means

22:43Ronnie Karam: yeah get ready yeah i'll be like bamboo yeah yeah yeah you're right you know and like i've given him a lot of power because like i wanted peace so like i gave him power and so like now we're happy and like now he's going to bamboozle me yeah you're right it's going to be fun yeah stephanie's like

23:02Ben Mandelker: you're not a piece you're not a piece at all unless you have a private private jet you're

23:06Ronnie Karam: just not a piece everyone knows that yeah and she's like if he decided we need to move uh if you know move forward you know you're not going to be like yeah i don't want to move forward either yeah but like well i don't know because like i have other things to say but like i'm not going to say them right now because like i could i could really do it i could say it but i'm not gonna say it because like i'm i'm together with todd right now until he bamboozles me what's bamboozled by the way that's a good thing right is that like propose again oh you know what

23:35Ben Mandelker: like the girls they have a right to feel the way that they do if anything like i love all of them for protecting me and like for showing me that they care so much but i'm like in love with him and like i want to be with him because you know what like all narcissists deserve to die but also they deserve love and i want to love to todd so we go to julia's and she's with jackson and luca

23:55Ronnie Karam: and they're packing little Christmas present gift things, like kind of food gifts or something like that for her daughters. And she's like, okay, Luca, Jackson, you help me. We're going to make a package for Vika and Emma. When she was a little girl, they loved some Russian chocolate. So let's pack for your sisters. Okay, now which one for Vika? And he's like, that one. Okay, and this one is for Jackson. No, not for Jackson. Jackson later. This is for weekend. This is for MFN. Okay, goat.

24:29Ben Mandelker: And this one goes for goat. When do we get something? I do not know. You know, this is going to be bittersweet Christmas because I'm not going to, it's not going to be because we have our boys, but because both my daughters won't be with us, we are not going to be full house for Christmas.

24:47Ronnie Karam: So we get clips of her basically being an absentee parent this whole time. she's like um your grades uh how are your grades emma and she's like mom do you even know the name of my school and she's like oh my god what's the name of my school mom oh geez come on emma emma go together me uh goat goat harvard ghost lake school

25:18Ronnie Karam: so martina comes in and she's like what are we up to in here or packing some snacks for those ungrateful bitches you birthed it's like oh we're having fun making christmas presents oh gosh i need a picture for vika like that with you hugging martina and wacky hat let's do it boys so they take little cute christmas videos they and she's like vika emma this is our pre-christmas Do you miss us? We miss you. Come back to us. Say hello. Say hello, replacements of Vika and Emma.

25:48Ben Mandelker: Say hello. Remember Vika and Emma when we used to do these photos with you? Oh, of course not, because we never did it, but we do it with the new tube. What do you call them? The do-overs.

25:59Ronnie Karam: So come on, come home with us. This is Mulligan and Mulligan number two. Mulligan and do-over. so um then we see her crying to her friend about not having her daughters anymore and um so martina's like well chocolate gets them every time that should be an easy choice and she's like well but now things are better with the daughters no and so she's talking about during thanksgiving she had a conversation with emma and it shifted and vika probably did her little magic because they finally understood there's room for everybody and i can just not wait for them to see them oh no you're eating emma's chocolate why are you eating emma's chocolate oh god the children won't speak to me now i cannot send them half eaten chocolate well you you definitely look less stressed now that

26:52Ben Mandelker: you've had a breakthrough with one of those girls i mean i felt really hopeless i was really upset about what i was doing to you more than anything those two little ungrateful bitches we gave them a whole modern house and free art and this is how they repay us i don't think so it was almost

27:06Ronnie Karam: enough to paint them and throw tennis balls at their faces and try and let adriana sell them in our puzzle well vika told me in her mind you know if we could have adopted the boys while they were living in the house the girls would it would have been easier for them oh god you're kidding

27:23Ben Mandelker: get out get out of dodge come on that's ridiculous okay oh wow they would have liked it better that don't make any sense to me and martina's totally right these girls are totally lying if they would have been they well the girls just wouldn't have been happy no matter what obviously they didn't they were uncomfortable the idea of suddenly having like two new siblings and they probably felt replaced or jealous or whatever it is we don't really we never really found out what was bothering the the sisters but um now they're saying like oh we could have been there we could have been part of the process but it's just something sprung on us i think they would have been unhappy no matter what yeah um and martina's not having it she's like well

27:59Ronnie Karam: it could have gone either way it could have whether they were here or not i think the way it went because we adhered to their wishes they didn't want to know about the process so we didn't tell them until it was too late for them so they don't want to know they don't know now they're mad they

28:12Ben Mandelker: don't know oh come on i can't yeah she's like these two spoiled brats travel the world we give them everything and now we do something for ourselves and they're mad about it i'm not going

28:24Ronnie Karam: to stand for it yeah martina you're so grumpy why why do you need to talk about this stuff i'm just being realistic your daughters are bitches the end it's pretty much so then we go

28:38Ben Mandelker: to lisa's house and there's a chef who's made some little sushi and stuff and the kids are there and she's like guess what kids jody surprised mommy tonight and we're having a romantic dinner isn't that sweet you want some and then jody's like yeah i want you yeah you ever tried that before it's like what are you saying are she

29:03Ronnie Karam: what i love about jody is he's all about not being able to say how much properly the family It's just so sweet Marty

29:18Ronnie Karam: Marty Marty Marty Read my blinks

29:25Ben Mandelker: Is he holding a goldfish in his mouth? Is he afraid? Or like a bird? Is there a little parakeet in his mouth That the moment he opens his jaws This bird can go flying out

29:35Ronnie Karam: He really is I think I made this comparison before He is like when me and my little sister were young we would go under the water in the swimming pool and then talk to each other and then see if we could figure out what the other person was saying. And it was always like... Like, you said, Bingo was his name. No, I said you're stupid and fat. You know, stuff like that. But that's how Jody talks.

29:59Ben Mandelker: Yeah, well, he's so great with my kids. He loves them. And my kids come over and they're always like, Jody, Jody, Jody. And he's always like... I'm watching them together.

30:12Ronnie Karam: Let's get a glass of wine. Adios, kids. I'm going to go cry for Jody and beg him to marry me so I don't feel like a loose woman. So they go outside, and she's telling us she got the second chance at a family. She's always dreamt of this. It makes me feel, look at this. We're having a special dinner, Jody. Almost like something special's about to happen. Ring finger, ring finger, lonely Jody.

30:38Ben Mandelker: yeah no i don't think so i don't know i don't know what you're saying jody but like i know i just got divorced but i don't like the term girlfriend what i like is wifey to be give me a ring okay and i think i'm just too old to be called a girlfriend uh i mean i would never like to say that i'm too old but let's be honest i'm a little too old for this so so i can't be i can't be with someone honestly going on three years and not at least being engaged she's like oh what you agree You want him, Archie? No, I don't know. I don't know, Joey. Why don't you text it to me?

31:14Ronnie Karam: I disagree with you. Look, I don't want to pressure you or nothing. I just want you to marry me right fucking now or I'm out of here. Do you understand me? You need to set me free. Be with me forever and set me free. No pressure. No pressure. Well, do you think that there's somebody else who would have sat through the seat that I sat through for the past few years? Is there anyone else in your life that would sit here and take everything I do love frigate Tony. Thank you for asking.

31:42Ben Mandelker: And the shady, shady editors then cut immediately to Lenny saying almost the exact same thing. Do you think there's anybody other than me that could put up with you? Yeah.

31:54Ronnie Karam: That's not the best way to word it. But I know what Jody's saying. I thought Lenny was a monster. But I do see what Jody's saying. He's like, I've just been through complete trauma with you. It's not like I don't love you. you know like i've been here yeah hopefully he wasn't being lenny's version was like you're so

32:10Ben Mandelker: shitty there's no one else that would like you except for me and then jody's like no look i wouldn't still be here with given all the all the things that have happened i wouldn't still be here yeah so then but that was shady that was a shady edit it was a shady edit so jody's like listen i need to not hear that if i get engaged and work towards marriage that i'm not walking into chaos because anytime something happens there's always this chaos it's lenny and this and that and like If you go through shit and I can deal with shit, what I'm not here for is when you go through shit, like, you take it out on me.

32:40Ben Mandelker: I'm sorry. Were you saying that we should go to the movies? No. I'm just saying, can I tell you that, well, make a difference is basically, he's basically like, can you just go to therapy?

32:51Ronnie Karam: Well, he's saying, like, you've been going through trauma, but then you yell at me and you're constantly taking your trauma out on me. It makes it sound like he's getting screamed at all the time. That's what I'm getting from this. and she's like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm sorry and he's like you know and if i saw you

33:09Ben Mandelker: he literally says if you go to therapists or just start talking to someone start dealing with this like yeah i'll give you a ring right away it's i actually thought like that considering the weird ultimatums we've seen on bravo this is one of the more reasonable ones like listen i just need you just you need to start working on some of your emotional shit a little bit and then i'm ready

33:28Ronnie Karam: I just need to know I'm not torturing me. He's like, if you just stop torturing me. And he doesn't even make her go to therapy. He's like, I mean, even if you went to therapy or started books, even that. He would buy the four agreements. Okay? Buy that. It's very short. You can do it. We'll get married. We're so close.

33:47Ben Mandelker: We'll open up an Audible account for you. Just really anything. Anything. An instruction manual. If you could just tell me how the car works, I'll be happy. I just wanted to see a page turn. One page.

33:56Ronnie Karam: and she says she's going to work on it and I've never been so angry this shit has made me angry this shit has made me different you motherfuckers! Put down the knife

34:09Ben Mandelker: Can we just eat our haji and peace? What? Can we just eat our haji and peace?

34:16Ronnie Karam: I don't see hot pockets here but I'm down Where are they? So they kiss and it looks like it's all going to work out guys and now it's day one of Art Boss And Julie is at home getting her makeup done. And she wants to do those sexy, smoky, always sexy, smoky. And then Stephanie is getting her hair and makeup done. And they're trying to come up with something crazy because it's Art Basel. I'm crazy, bitches. Don't you come for me. This is what I'm trying to give. That's what I want to give for my fashion. So just put a gigantic no whammies button in the middle of my chest.

34:52Ben Mandelker: I know. just put the staples like that was easy button on my chest whatever it's crazy so uh it looked crazy that button it was definitely like no whammies family feud buzzer whatever doorknob so adriana gets out of her suv um and she goes there's a place called higher ground that seems to be attached to the arlo hotel or something and she goes up to this big party this big glamorous party that looks actually pretty amazing and they go and they walk through like there's gonna be 2 ,500 people coming to the party and they go to this gallery and adrian's like oh look at these smudges on canvas i love it what i love about this artist is that he's from britain and he paints like the great masters he has a brush stroke of rembrandt and the creativity of dolly and one of the ears of van gogh but obviously we know the second one

35:48Ronnie Karam: this better work because i have a successful event because i put a lot of money to make tonight happen so this is called the higher ground because it's up like 30 flights of stairs or that's good oh my god staircase that is insane um what about an elevator okay in those heels let's help some people out they've got the craziest heels too so larza comes you know everybody's coming and larza immediately starts some shit she's like so like what's going on like Like you look like 30 years old. Like you look so beautiful. By the way though, like that was so weird about that. Like cake like, how it had all those numbers on it.

36:22Ronnie Karam: And it was like that cake was like, you're an old dumb like bitch. Like remember the cake was like, oh my God. Like remember I had the cake, it was just like one big crutch. Remember it was like shaped like a crutch. That was so mean. Like who did that? That was mean.

36:38Ben Mandelker: Like you don't see math. Like that was so mean. Like who wrote that? Like it was like, I don't know. I don't know, but I wasn't very happy about it. I don't know who would do such a mean-spirited thing, but when I find out who did, that person is going to get the piece of my mind. My old mind, that is, because that equation wasn't even written nicely. I wish my artist had done it. The brushstroke of a Rembrandt, the palette of a Matisse, the vaginas of a Georgia O 'Keeffe.

37:10Ronnie Karam: Beautiful. so stephanie comes and um she's dressed crazily and um they get some drinks and stuff and she's like i'm so happy to be with you guys you know i really enjoyed the cruise like maybe i'm starting to fit in you know i don't know at this point with how i'm gonna handle marisol kill her push her down the stairs i mean this is a good place for it but not really sure but you know she's she slivers you know she slivers uh so she's getting ready for a big fight with marisol which she's going to lose. So I don't, I don't, I would never bet on Stephanie to win a fight against Marisol. We've seen her try it a few times and she just, Marisol disarms her so easily.

37:50Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she really does.

37:52Ben Mandelker: So then Marisol and Alexia are arriving and talking about Thanksgiving and Alexia's like, oh, well, you know, I had dinner with the boys and Peter's girlfriend, which I loved. I loved it. But Todd didn't come over because he had dinner with his mom and his daughters and like other narcissists. And we saw each other the night before after that. And like, not that night, but like, you know, they call it narcissist giving and they basically make people bring them turkeys and so it's like fun, I love it so much

38:15Ronnie Karam: His family came over on the narcissism flower that's just how they do it so yeah, like we were hanging out with oh you know Peter's girlfriend who is like a turkey like this girl was just like a turkey it's so crazy to like be sitting at the table with a turkey like eating a turkey but you know she was there so what did you guys do? I was like well listen when you don't talk about Todd Todd, you know, I don't ask about Todd. If you're not going to talk about him, she goes, well, but I don't want to be talking about Todd every day, you know?

38:45Ben Mandelker: She's like, I don't want to be like Lisa and Lenny, you know?

38:47Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I'm not going to be like Lisa and just talk about him every day. It's like, well, my brain, if you're not talking about him, then that's not good. So then I don't ask. Oh, you know why? Because you're negative. That's what? That's why.

39:01Ben Mandelker: I understand and respect the way Marcel feels, you know, like an old dumb lady. but there's like comes to a point where like no matter what you say it's not going to influence me and my decision okay i've just had a team narcissism that's me okay um and then a week earlier we see them like we see that dinner they had where marisol ate nothing and uh and marisol is talking about she doesn't like todd so lexie says you know i have to shut up the noise because like you know at the end of the day it's not between our friends it's between toad and i shut up the noise you are the noise yeah like at the end of the day you get nada for nada you know

39:37Ronnie Karam: that's all you can say for the life of the pobres that's it you know that's what I'm saying so she's like nothing's changed Mary so all right well it'll be what it'll be you know okay Sarah Sarah's thing you know I mean that's one of Dick's favorite songs I mean he's just had everybody sing it to him at Branson God I love Dick I miss Dick I wonder what Dick would feel about you being back with Todd I don't think Dick would like this Alexia

40:03Ben Mandelker: so Julia arrives and joins Larsa and Stephanie and Adriana and then Stephanie and Larsa have a you know go off to talk and Larsa's like so like nautical Stephanie like I don't know if you remember but like Adriana's cake had like a bunch of math equations on it it's like really confusing and I was wondering if anyone had a calculator because I still don't know what number it landed on

40:26Ronnie Karam: I love the most thing the most offensive thing that's happened to Larsa this season is that there has been math on a cake. Just like, yeah. Oh my God, like the math, there was like math, like that's just like unfair. Like, I don't even know how to do that. Like, what am I supposed to like add a cake? What am I like, Feinstein?

40:45Ben Mandelker: Like, yeah, that's like hard. Am I like Feinstein? Like, like math is like really hard. So like when you do it like on a cake, it's hard because like also like the cake is a circle. So then you're like rotating it and you're like, wait, if pie is math and why is this on cake? It's like using like, so.

41:02Ronnie Karam: How am I supposed to like, out on my fingers when I'm like holding a piece of cake?

41:05Ben Mandelker: Like, it's just like unfair, like. So then they do a whole bit about who could it be? Who are the suspects? They go through this whole thing.

41:13Ronnie Karam: First of all, can we just say, not that big of a deal. Your friends threw you a birthday party. They were really nice to you. They got you kind of a hideous cake, but you know, they made the effort. And you're 59 and you're going to have, that's something you have to deal with. It's just, it's not torturing. you. Yeah, you're gorgeous. And it's not torturing you by saying happy 59th birthday. Was it slightly tasteless? Sure. I mean, maybe it's because I've already heard the explanation for this that I have this opinion. Was it maybe a bad joke? Sure. But it's like your friends, they're fucking with you.

41:47Ronnie Karam: This is not the end of the world. And Larsa getting this woman riled up is cray-cray. Don't do this.

41:53Ben Mandelker: Please don't do this. Because this was dead and done. They've already had Thanksgiving. They went, they did the bravo the whatever it was the the miami whatever they did last year fan fest thing fan fest they went and did the cruise then they all went off to thanksgiving and now it's art basel which means it's probably december 4th or 5th or 6th or something like that so it's been like two weeks and now lars is like wow remember that frosting that was so offensive that frosting i'm like really i guarantee even if adriana was like that's like tacky like she's she's over it but you're bringing it all back.

42:29Ben Mandelker: Now it's like, you know, people do birthday cake things where they say like, oh, I'm not turning 40. It's like, I'm turning 20 times two, right? It's like a way to say it differently. And I think it, like Kiki just did it wrong. Obviously she did it wrong. She was like, oh, it's, she tried to do the, I'm 32 times two, but that doesn't work. So minus five. And then she's like, oh, in case you can't tell, that's 59, which is like, no, Kiki, you messed that up. But Larsa is trying to turn this into like the biggest, the most offensive thing that could have happened.

42:58Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so they're trying to figure out who did it. So they're all coming up with the biggest suspect or whatever. But it's funny because then they get to Lisa and Lars is like, maybe like Lisa, but I don't think Lisa can count like that highlight. And Stephanie goes, yeah, I don't think that Algebra's her thing. We're basically counting.

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45:02Ben Mandelker: So then Lisa shows up and Alexia has an announcement. She goes, guys, guys, you have to listen to this story. Okay. I go to Lisa's apartment after Thanksgiving and we ran into each other at Thanksgiving dinner at like prime one, one, two, one, twelve. And then she invited me to like to her house to have a drink. And then she had bought like two Christmas trees. And Jodi's like, oh yeah. oh yeah like lisa hired somebody to put up the christmas tree like it cost me a thousand dollars it's not a great story guys isn't that kind of normal for rich people to do that yeah it is right a second is the point of the story that lisa put up a christmas tree for a thousand dollars was the point of the story that you can understand what jody was saying

45:43Ronnie Karam: exactly okay like do it yourself so like with a thousand dollars like and it tells you to take it off like what julie's like 79.99 this is what i paid for my tree this is what i did marisol's here monkey i mean sorry monkeys here monkey we just heard about your tree what a disaster what an awful awful trial of tribulation bingo say por favor diga me what's up with the tree monkey

46:12Ben Mandelker: you know victoria and emma are like this is why we're not coming home mother because you're a shitty cheap$80 tree. Give us a$1 ,000 tree, mother. I cut myself every time I pass that wiry ass tree. You are married to a sports icon and the best you can do is an$80 fucking tree. Now you want us to be happy about it?

46:32Ronnie Karam: Oh my God, Lisa, listen to this. Julia buys her own Christmas tree at Home Depot and she decorates it. What do you think of that? That's what she does. She does it herself. She's like, I don't see the problem. I'm hiring someone to put up a tree. Listen, it's not hurting anybody. I'm literally helping the economy.

46:50Ben Mandelker: Oh, look at Lisa. Lisa Hochstein, the very godmother of trickle-down economics. This is true.

46:59Ronnie Karam: Listen, it's better than dribble-down dinner, which is what I had with Jody last night. God, watching that man try to chew. Can't wait to marry him.

47:09Ben Mandelker: So, Adriana's birthday cake on the cruise. This is Stephanie talking, by the way. adriana's birthday cake on the cruise yeah you see it yeah oh yeah i saw it yeah i saw it i did larsa is trying to piece together who did it like do you know do you even know who did it

47:23Ronnie Karam: what we wanted to know who put the numbers on the cake who put the numbers on the cake

47:32Ben Mandelker: someone put numbers on cake okay we don't they're like oh yeah i already know who it is you know it's like oh well because it was supposed to be a big mystery and we're supposed to like have a big fight and we're going to accuse each other and like maybe frame Julia for it and then like get to the bottom of it and we're it was you but you guys know oh yeah I guess maybe like next time tell us before we start the scene yeah this episode

47:53Ronnie Karam: 16 I just don't have time for this it was kinky and kinky

47:57Ben Mandelker: did it yeah so you guys don't want to have like a fight about it you just want to like you're just going to say who it is you don't want to draw it out you don't want to like make it like a you don't want to like do like a cover up and then like do like three episodes of like you know like who knows you know

48:10Ronnie Karam: do you want to say it? Terrible. Kiki. It was Kiki. It was Kiki La Terrible. Okay, that's it. I saw that. There I saw that. Sorry, Doc. I know Richard Branson.

48:24Ben Mandelker: Kiki and Gertie are driving along and Kiki's like, have you talked to any of the girls since the cruise? Oh, yes. Well, I texted Adriana and then she was like, who put the numbers on the cake? And I was like, I don't know. So who did it? And Kiki's like, I did it. Oh, I thought we were going to do a round of like, it could have been so. It was Kiki.

48:42Ronnie Karam: No, it was me.

48:43Ben Mandelker: You're just going to admit it. We're not going to like - Yeah, it was Kiki. You're not going to deny it and then like admit it to him for me. It was Kiki. It was just you. It was me. Okay. I did it. All right. I did it. You know, we still have another episode left for season finale that it could have come out in, right?

48:57Ronnie Karam: Well, let me tell you. You want another episode? My father had never seen a birthday cake with numbers on it. And now he has. Now he has. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair.

49:08Ben Mandelker: so kiki explains that when they're on the boat like you know what what they were talking about like what was like um an age that you'd want to go back to and then adriana had said 32 and so and we see we see a i guess like um how old would you want to be an adrian said 35 whatever so then And Kiki was like, I like it saying, not 32 on the screen.

49:35Ronnie Karam: It said,

49:35Ben Mandelker: ding, ding, ding, not 32. So Kiki's like, so on the cake, I came up with this little idea. Well, if it's not her age, it's like, it's like more like math, which is funny. And Alexia goes, and how are you going to do that? Like math? Like, you know, it's, it's us, right? No, I put like 32 times two, but it's like minus five because you need to get to the 59, right? Because 32 times 32 is 64. Like, I'm not following.

50:00Ronnie Karam: how is 32 and 32 64 yeah like that's a lot of numbers that don't like make sense like you got 32 minus five like what is what even is that like how am i supposed to do that if you put two 32

50:12Ben Mandelker: year olds together they're not like adriana's age that doesn't make sense like yeah like i don't get

50:17Ronnie Karam: it that's stupid like i don't get it marisol's like oh my god all right you know what you do it go ahead and you do it and then we're just gonna sit back and watch this with popcorn because it's going to be funny. It's going to be ridiculous. Like, yeah, because it's going to be funny. Stupid.

50:36Ben Mandelker: I am feeling awful because I didn't want her to feel like I was age-shaming her, which is why at the time when it happened, I said absolutely nothing. And then the next time I get Adriana cake, it's just going to say, happy birthday. You are the most beautiful woman on earth. Or even better yet, shoot, maybe I don't even give her a cake at all. Look at her vibrators, right? Kiki talking, vibrators. I actually laughed at that. She had funny timing.

51:01Ronnie Karam: It's like, yeah, maybe I don't even give her a cake next time. Next time I give her vibrators. It's like, there it is. There it is. So now everybody is coming to the venue. Gertie's tripping. It's like, ah, ah. I stuck the landing. I almost tripped, but I got it. Stuck it. Nailed it. Gertified that curb.

51:21Ben Mandelker: And then they're all looking at art. And Adrian's like, everyone, please welcome. This is Chris Rivers. he has the brush stroke of early caveman and the color palette of Cate Blanchett in that one movie where she was an artist I think it wasn't her it may have been someone else

51:42Ronnie Karam: Chris Revers Larsa Pippin, Julia Lemingova this is all of you brilliant artists, people I kind of know on TV who are mostly horrible and he's like hello nice to meet you like is this like all your work like? That's like crazy. Did you just like sign it or is it like your work? Do you know Wisby? Cause I do. He like gave me free stuff. Yeah. Do you make gummy bears? Gummy bears are real art. Like what is this? Like you put paint on stuff? That's disgusting. I don't get it. Like this art is sick.

52:12Ben Mandelker: It's beautiful. It's sick. This art is so sick. Wow. It's like Wisby level, but like, it's like if you took a gummy bear and like flattened it and then put in a frame, And that's like what your art is. It's like Whispy Black.

52:27Ronnie Karam: Sick. This is your art? Wow, amazing. Good for you. You look terrified. Was it scary art? Why are you shaking? Why are you hiding behind that lady's knee? You look very scared. Wow, art from a terrified, pasty person, everybody. Give him some applause. Not too loud. He's very scared.

52:49Ben Mandelker: Oh, by the way, say hi to Dick for me. You're going back to Britain, aren't you? Okay. And this lady, Jennifer, comes out. Thank you all for coming to our show. I'd like to introduce Adriana, although everybody knows her, right? She's been around for 59 years at this point. Am I right, everyone? How dare you?

53:05Ronnie Karam: How dare you? I'm going to throw you down the stairs of the higher ground. Okay, thank you. Thank you to Chris Rivers. Okay, Chris, come up. He's hiding under the table right now. Chris, come up and say hello. Okay, you know, you won't do it. Okay, Chris did it. Thank you, everybody. Now open your wallets and start buying pieces. is yeah like maybe like get some gummy bears or something like he flew all the way over the pond

53:28Ben Mandelker: to get here or should i say the rivers because that's his last name he has the brush stroke of anna paquin when she's painting in her off time but the the taste level of the guy from duncan donuts who decides to make one donut really nice the brush stroke of anna paquin and the follow through of pac-man so the dedication of the ghosts but the perseverance of pac-man

53:59Ronnie Karam: so she introduces him to lisa and lisa's like oh my god you're paying a tease let me touch i'm like no you can't touch the art girl you're buying the art now i'll take it i'm like seriously gonna take it okay it's 18 000 what do i care i love art i collect art like when i moved to the Star Island house. It was all art. That was my art. And we see the picture. We just see a picture of, like, Lisa naked but, like, painted over. It's like, yeah. It's all, like, Lisa Pop art. That's some serious art. It's, like, fake Lichtenstein

54:27Ben Mandelker: art of her being, like, look at me. Pop art. It's, like, fake Warhols like her in a soup can. I love Lisa being, like, I love art. That's why I always touch it with my full hand. Yeah. Like, Lisa, you got Tamachi on the art.

54:47Ronnie Karam: Oh, so, Marisol, let's talk to Steph. Marisol and Stephanie, so what did you guys do for Thanksgiving? I haven't had Instagram since I lost my phone. I would assume your husband's still on Facebook. I would have had to check there anyway. So how's my fellow senior doing? Did you guys have fun?

55:05Ben Mandelker: Well, we were in Canada. How about you? Well, I went to the Yacht Club with Steve and Hunter. We sat around the piano, sang some peaches and cream. You know, it's not the same having Thanksgiving with a family, you know, but I don't have my family around anymore. So anyway, if you want to stop for me. Well, you know what? Family is so important. And I don't talk to my sisters because they're bitches, which brings me to my topic. My sisters are bitches. Okay. When I joined this friend group, I felt like I had a connection with you and I don't want to fight with you. It's like, why would we be fighting?

55:37Ben Mandelker: What are you talking about? Mighty Mouse. We're not even fighting. Okay. We're just sitting around.

55:43Ronnie Karam: I thought we're good. We talked. You expressed your feelings. I said your feelings were invalid. And I thought that was a perfectly nice conversation, Mighty Mouse. She's like, um, well, you know, but like, you know, it was before I had my talk with Alexi in the mudroom. And in the mudroom, Alexi said Marisol's really upset because you went to lunch with Adriana. And, you know, I think Marisol's really upset because Adriana got to fly on the plane first. No one said that. No one said that. You're making it about your fucking plane again. Nobody said Mary Soul's upset that Adriana's on the plane.

56:17Ronnie Karam: Why are you making stuff? You just want people to be upset about your plane. No one cares about your plane. Okay, Lisa cares about your plane. No one else cares about your plane.

56:27Ben Mandelker: Listen, I'm not upset about Adriana flying on the plane. I removed myself from the situation. I told you why I didn't go on the plane. I didn't go because Alexia wasn't included. It was me or her. And then after that, I didn't want to hear about the cost of it because I don't want to be beholden to anybody. She's like, but it wasn't me, Marisol. It wasn't me who said that. And we see a flashback that it was Larsa. It's like, she's spending$40 ,000. That's like two gummy bears that you could put in your backyard that she's not buying anymore. She's spending it on a plane-like.

56:57Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and Larsa said it, but it's because you told Larsa, which is also you being like, oh my God, I'm spending$40 ,000 to take these girls on a plane, et cetera, et cetera. And so Marisol's like, well, listen, I want our friendship to be pure, okay? I won't ever play a relationship. Oh, so you don't feel like it was pure? No, I mean, no. Not when you're talking about how much it costs and everything. I just think it's tacky. It's just tacky to be talking about money all the time. By the way, she's saying this in her confessional when she's like, this is just so tacky. This girl, everybody talking about their money and their brand.

57:28She's wearing like Louis Vuitton, Louis Vuitton, Louis Vuitton.

57:32Ronnie Karam: She's wearing one of those outfits with the pattern, with the brand literally everywhere. It's like, God, I just hate showy people.

57:39Ben Mandelker: she's like oh god i just hate a tacky person cut to alexia i was born a star i was born a star and russians are all prostitutes just look you you realize the milieu that you're in is all tackiness yeah well i think it's no go ahead me sorry it's me it's my turn to talk okay don't act like my sister okay all right i think it's you know what i think is tacky i think it's very tacky to not go and say to somebody, hey, I'm not going to go on the plane because of XXX. And I think it's tacky to send your message to your other friend. And when your room's three feet away, and given what Alexia said in the mudroom, she basically made it seem like it's Marisol behind a lot of the things she does.

58:18Ben Mandelker: And she said Marisol's the one that puts all these things in my head. So that's what it's tacky. That's what I think is tacky. And you know what? I think that Stephanie in this situation is actually correct. It was tacky. Stephanie was being tacky about the plane 100%, but Marisol was being tacky by just being a no-show. That's what

58:32Ronnie Karam: I think it was tacky, too. I will give her that. I think she's right on that. But then she lies again when she says, Marisol is the one that puts these things in my head, and she knows I'm the mouthpiece. That's not what she said. She said, Marisol and I, we're two different people, but just so you know, I'm the one that has the bigger mouth, so I'll say it. But she always thinks like me, if not more. That's not saying she puts the words in her head. That's saying they both have the same opinions, but she's the only one with the balls to say anything. It's not the same thing as being her mouthpiece.

59:02Ronnie Karam: I don't think.

59:04Ben Mandelker: But whatever. I don't come in balls a-blazing, but I do come in balls a-chugging, right? With Steve, you know, anyone? Hey. It's just that, like, when somebody can't really manipulate you, they make you feel like you're crazy. And I don't have my feelings all over the place. And she's like, what? Listen, I am the farthest thing from a manipulator. Go to the other side of the room. That's not me. Just get on my face. You need to be on your own for your own issues. Maybe fight with Gertie. You have an issue with me, okay? or maybe fight with Adriana. I don't know. Think about it. That's you and you, okay?

59:36Ben Mandelker: But I am not a manipulator. How long have I fought with Julia? That could be fun, too.

59:41Ronnie Karam: Oh, Mary, so give yourself a little credit. You're one of the greatest manipulators in Bravo history. Like, you do a good job. You're good at it, and you do it. You know, take credit. Take credit for things sometimes. And saying, well, her blaming me for problems with Alexia is crazy. I mean, she was starting nonstop with her Todd commentary, which is true as well. I mean, they're both making great points. And I think it's because they're both making points that the other one is an asshole. So I think that they're both correct, actually.

1:00:09Ben Mandelker: Yeah. So Stephanie's like, well, maybe this is your norm because you're married to a crazy guy. Oh, sorry. That was a flashback of me. Remember when I said that? That was so hilarious. So Marisol's like, look, it has nothing to do with me. And I think everyone here has a little bit of amnesia. Mine comes from all the khakis that I drink all the time. Outrageous.

1:00:28Ronnie Karam: well i think that like deep down to the core like i was hurt and that's where i'm coming from she goes i'm sorry you're hurt my animals like i knew not going on the plane might hurt you know and i want to work things out and be friends i just you know what i want to go on that plane one day i want to poop on your plane all right am i gonna get to make a poop on your plane

1:00:48Ben Mandelker: it's called jetiquette okay and this is the reason why my sisters weren't allowed on the plane and this is why they won't talk to me to this day because they want to take a poop on my plane And I said, you can't do that. And then there are these stupid bitches who go off and won't talk to me when I'm the one who just is trying to enforce jetiquette. Okay. And I feel like we can be great friends if we were just like a little more straightforward with me. Especially if you were more straightforward with me instead of like going through Alexia. You got that, Marisol?

1:01:07Ronnie Karam: All right. Fine. Because I love you and I don't want to fight. Well, it's not the law. So then they go look at the art. And now Adriana is introducing her best friend Carol to the artist. And she's like, this is Carol. She's a fashion stylist. She's been dressing me for 17 years. She's my ride or die. And she's black. She's my black friend who's going to stand up for me today. Does everybody understand this without me labeling it 20 times in this scene? Okay.

1:01:37Ben Mandelker: This is my black friend who's known me for a long time and will be able to testify on my behalf in case it needs to be brought up. Okay, great. Yeah. And then Carol's like, oh, Chris Rivers, you have a horrible accent. It's like, really? Oh, no. It's like, yeah, it's British. I know. I love it, babe. I love it so much. See, I was being coy.

1:02:01Ronnie Karam: So then outside, Alexia is talking to Kiki, Julia, Marisol, and Lisa. And she's like, I don't know if you girls know, but Julia always comes to the beauty bar. Okay. So anyways, I was thinking I can have you girls come over sometime this week at the beauty bar and we can teach Lisa how to put up a tree, you know, because like Lisa paid for somebody to do that tree, you know? And it was actually Frankie's idea because we could have a happy hour, you know? But if you're going to fight, don't do it in front of Frankie. Please promise me right now we're not going to fight in front of Frankie, please.

1:02:33Ben Mandelker: So everything's going nicely. People are being silly. Larson and Gertie are being silly. And then Lisa's with Larsa. Lisa's like, wow, everyone's getting along, which is, it's always, the moment someone says that on any of these shows, that's the moment that the villagers close all the shutters and like turn off the lights

1:02:51Ronnie Karam: and lock the doors so lisa and larsa are hugging and boob touching and stuff and julie's like oh my god can i tell you i'm so loving you hugging but you know i miss adrian i see her standing there and i miss her so much which is why i never call her reach out to her and ask her to be god parent of my child and have befriended her two worst enemies so i just miss it so much

1:03:15Ben Mandelker: yeah so then they all go like larsa and adriana um larsa pulls adriana and she has to get adriana more angry about the uh the cake so they pull over and then uh kiki is confided to gertie and alexia about the cake she's explaining she's how like she feels really bad i came across as shady and she's trying to be have light you know like trying to bring light to it and everything was fine and all was it's all dancing and that was the goal and i'm like that's fine kiki but you you really need to go tell adriana this because you're running out of time and i know what happens do it immediately do it immediately right now the wrong people so then they're sitting down and lisa goes guys so adriana uh julia was having a conversation and she was saying how much she misses you and she's saying that she misses you so much like she misses hugging the way larsa and i hug come on hug it's like yes at that moment when i saw you two boob the boob eye to eye got off the goad off i was like oh and thought about you adriana oh that's like great that's

1:04:20Ronnie Karam: like great and like really like touching like but you know what let me ask you a question like who put the math equation on the birthday cake like because like that was math and it was really like

1:04:27Ben Mandelker: hard like and i just need to know the insincerity of this moment of like let's put let's pull adriana and Julia together to remind them that they can be great friends, but let's also talk about that icing that we think that Julia did to get at you, Adriana. Yes, exactly. Oh, yeah, but Kiki did it. Kiki did it? And Larsh is like, what? But we were going to tear them apart. What? Kiki did it? She's like, yeah. You weren't supposed to say it out loud, though.

1:04:56Ronnie Karam: Kiki did it? But she should know, like, and Adriana's like, that was fucking shady. Really, Kiki? Hurting me once wasn't enough? So then we see the clip of stopping so ratchet. Did you just call me ratchet? You're too old to be talking like this to people. This is ageism.

1:05:19Ben Mandelker: And we see the flashback to that. I love that moment. Every time they show Kiki saying, you are too old to be talking like this. I was like, so good every time. So mean.

1:05:28Ronnie Karam: So she's like, you really had to put your meanness in writing? so she's like talk about my art talk about my music don't talk about my age oh really someone talks about your art and your music and you're going to be okay with that come on it's like normally i'm not such a sensitive person right babe right right but i just don't know why she

1:05:48Ben Mandelker: would do that like why would she do that well i don't think kiki did it in a mean way she's like but there's like no other way to say it like julia stop talking there's like no other way larsa there is another way actually you're being an asshole because you are you're trying to get adriana mad and like there is a way where like like anyone could see that like like if that's written on a cake yes it could have been like done in a bitchy way but i think most people would give a friend a benefit of the doubt and say oh they were trying to make a joke that didn't land but larsa's like no that cannot happen whatsoever she's like yeah she like already called you old do you remember that or do you not remember because you're so old there's your memory going Sorry.

1:06:32Ronnie Karam: So, yeah. So, Julie is like, well, you know, this was maybe a conscious equation. And do you remember when you were, like, tipsy telling Marisol about her niece, though, Adriana? She's like, but I'm older than Marisol. And that was okay because Marisol and I go a long way. It's different. It's different when I'm age-shaming someone. No, it's not really. You're being a fucking hypocrite. And you're being a baby about this cake.

1:06:56Ben Mandelker: just you really are okay yeah so you can't be sad about your age and then also not act it okay but

1:07:05Ronnie Karam: then we get a flashback of my favorite part of the season off you old get plastic surgery on your wrinkled knees because they need it so you're defending kiki it was great you're defending

1:07:18Ben Mandelker: i said the marathon you're you're defending her like that's why that's why when you ask me why I am not close to you anymore. That's because you're defending Marisol and Kiki. She's like, oh my God, you know what? Maybe I'm not so close to you anymore because you're pushing me away because it is so difficult to be around you. She's like, no, because you're so close to them now. She's like, no, because you're difficult. You're not fun anymore. Ooh, that's when someone's already feeling sensitive about their age and you say, you're not fun anymore. When it's your birthday.

1:07:48Ronnie Karam: Julia, oh my God, Julia. so she's like but you're defending everyone else except me and she goes uh and lisa's like oh i'm just happy it's not us honey and loris is like yeah i seem like love you glad i started this like

1:08:01Ben Mandelker: i know adriana is telling us that my best friend air quotes julia always side with people that i'm having problem with but you're always having problems with people adriana okay yeah but that being said i mean we all acknowledge and we've seen that julia basically sold out her friendship with Adriana to be in with the cool kids. But that being said, Julia's like, you know, I have her back all the time at my own expense, at the risk of losing some new friends of the group. And we do see a montage of Julia really having Adriana's back a lot. And we also see, I had totally forgotten how Julia like poured a bowl of ice, like Marisol at one point.

1:08:43Ben Mandelker: Yeah. She tried it. So I guess it's sort of her thing. Yeah.

1:08:47Ronnie Karam: That's her thing. so then um yeah we see all these clips of her going hard but of course that was last year so the argument isn't that she didn't do it is that she doesn't do it anymore so julie is like but now i see red flag red flag that i've not seen over the last few years and so um now adriana is like it's not okay it's not okay to have prejudice it's not okay like what so now it's starting to turn. It's starting to go into a weird place. Like, I don't know what she was even meaning with that. So now Alexia comes over. We didn't understand at this point. Right. So Alexia comes over to comfort Kiki over the cake.

1:09:25Ronnie Karam: And she's like, once you say your true intentions and you explain it, like, there's nothing to argue about. So just do it. Surely she'll be very calm and accepting when you go talk to her. And

1:09:35Ben Mandelker: if Adriana had said, Kiki, I can't believe you wrote that on the cake. That was so mean. Kiki might have been able to explain her side and whatever. But instead, Adriana goes like she goes to like the not the nasty place but she's like Carol am I racist? She takes it to the next level of like we don't have to bring race into this Carol am I racist? No you're not. Who says that you're a racist? Well Kiki is telling me and calling me a racist and he doesn't realize I have black friends

1:10:07Ronnie Karam: Oh my gosh so now that we know first of all we know they didn't call her racist they didn't even say problematic They didn't even say as much as we did. I mean, I was like, that is shitty. You can't just be calling a black woman ratchet. Like, they didn't even go that far. They just said ratchet's not a nice word, basically. But whatever she's gotten in her head, because she knows, someone obviously explained to her at some point, when you call a black woman ratchet, that is problematic. You can't do that. And so now she's like, oh, so they're going to try and cancel me and make this that I was calling her a word I didn't call her.

1:10:41Ronnie Karam: I was saying ratchet, okay? I still think she was saying ratchet. Like, I don't care. But even if she did say ratchet, I think that it would be, I think it would be understandable if she said, look, I said ratchet. It's something I hear all the time, like slaying. I didn't, I wasn't aware that it was offensive to black women. I just thought it was like a general diss, right? That would have been acceptable. But then she's making it like, no, I said ratchet because that's such a normal thing to call people to, you know, the whole thing. but then coming back so i think she's been festering thinking oh my god they've been calling they're and they tried to insinuate that i was being racist and they're going to try to cancel me and that's why she's been so sad because after that episode they went they did the bravo fan fest thing and now they're on the boat and she's not talking and i think she's like oh great if i open my mouth they're going to try and come for me and call me a racist yeah that's exactly right that's

1:11:35Ben Mandelker: a really good point so then adrian was like you know they're mentioning my age you know what they're shaming my age because I used the word ratchet. What? Ratch, ration. What? So then Carol goes, ratchet is a word for everybody. It has nothing to do with racism. So don't let anybody make you feel that way. You know, you're not, you know what I mean? I mean, look around you, all your friends are chocolate sisters. And Adrian was like, see, I have black friends. I was like, not the strongest, like not the strongest case here.

1:12:09Ronnie Karam: anytime somebody is called racist or problematic and immediately goes i'm not racist i have a black friend my black friend never thinks i'm right i'm dating a black person how dare you it's like oh my god it's just so cringy and i hate this for adriana i hate this i know she's like kiki you're

1:12:27Ben Mandelker: calling me a racist because i used the word ratchet so carol has some words from you black friend would you like to say something it's basically like a black person has my back would Would you like to say, it was like, so like, it was so cringy. And Kiki's like, who called you racist? She goes, you did. She goes, who told you I called you racist? She goes, because you are saying that I called you ratchet. She goes, I never said you're racist. She goes, tell her, tell her, Carol, tell her what ratchet means. It's like so insulting. And then Kiki is turning to Gertie and she's like, she says I call her racist.

1:12:58Ben Mandelker: And Gertie's like, who, what, huh, what, huh, what, huh.

1:13:01Ronnie Karam: And they're both like. So Gertie's like, so wait, she called you a racist? and Adriana goes yes and Gurley says when when when tonight did this happen tonight did it happen after I stuck the landing or before I stuck the landing because there's like two times in history tonight okay when did this happen and she's like when I used the word ratchet I meant miserable

1:13:23Ben Mandelker: Kiki's like I'm not gonna deal with this Kiki was like ready to apologize and she's like oh no now you're gonna take it to this level I'm not dealing with this

1:13:31Ronnie Karam: yeah she just walks away she just walks out because adriana is losing her shit now and she's like yelling about this shit and she's like no she thinks there's a racial connection which i did not use by the way she says i meant miserable well that's not what wretched means either uh so kiki does it uh you could say it i think miserable and wretched or yeah close enough okay i rescind so Gertie's like okay I understand and she's like no it was not racial so Kiki's like I never called her racist like I don't know where she got that from I don't even understand like I don't think anyone in this group is racist and she's like oh you know what had Carol been sitting at that table and if I use that word would you take it personally Carol say it as a black person and Carol's like no

1:14:18Ben Mandelker: it's fine if Carol doesn't it's fine if Carol doesn't because you have a different relationship with Carol just as you previously said about five seconds ago, how like it's one thing if you age shame Marisol is different than if Kiki age shames you because you have a different relationship, but like context always matters in these things. It's just like not uniform. And like Carol's experience may be one thing and Carol may receive it in a different way, but like you have a different context with Carol. You have a 17 year long context with her in a way that you don't with Kiki. And also like the surrounding conversation about it is different.

1:14:50Ben Mandelker: The point is Adriana is being ridiculous and she could have just said, I thought we had settled this. Why did you make fun of my age on that cake? But I think your theory is very strong, which is that Adriana is living in fear of quote-unquote cancel culture, and she's been festering, and then she's angry about it. She's angry that she's going to get canceled, and she's worked up this whole thing in her head, and now she's like, it's the last straw. I can't deal with it anymore, and I've got proof that you can't cancel me. And meanwhile, everyone's like, we weren't going.

1:15:21Ronnie Karam: Literally, no one was doing that oh my gosh and so she's like okay well i want carol who's a black woman in case you didn't notice who i love and adore to give her position on this give her a microphone get carol

1:15:34Ben Mandelker: up and gertia's sitting there like she's telling us she's like oh a little bit less like like everyone's just like okay i love you but stay less so then kiki does her like every season kiki does something that's like, wait, what? And Kiki goes out to the street. She walks up to like an Amazon truck and she's like, I need help. I need to get out of here. Can you give me a ride?

1:15:59Ronnie Karam: I was like, was it production? I didn't know what that was, but I love the idea that it's an Amazon driver. And she's like, please, I'm a model. Please help. And they're like, okay, ma 'am, get on in.

1:16:10Ben Mandelker: And she just - I thought this only happened in the movies. It's always like a movie where some regular person is there and the model has to, I mean, it's Notting Hill. it's like i need to get away take me wherever that's pretty person privilege totally like i

1:16:22Ronnie Karam: need to go somewhere you'll take me right i'm beautiful they're like sure get on in

1:16:29Ben Mandelker: yeah so julia's like where did she go she disappeared on some kind of magic she went out to street where there are lots of cars and cabs and she disappeared it's like yeah she got a ride so adrian's like i don't care about the cake i care about being called racist because what i meant was w-r-e-t-c-h-e-d which means miserable ratchet okay okay yes yes when yes you showed me the definition you know but and larsha's like yeah she also speaks five different languages like so like that's my point about something you know what there's like math

1:17:06Ronnie Karam: on cake. And I think we need to talk about that.

1:17:12Ben Mandelker: When I went downstairs, she's gone. I look everywhere. She's basically my daughter at this point. Just nowhere to be found.

1:17:20Ronnie Karam: Why are you protecting her instead of me? You're supposed to be my best friend.

1:17:26Ben Mandelker: Martina! I mean, sorry. God, Martina, I can't believe I just called you Martina when you're just not nearly as sexy as she is. Oh my goodness, how could I even say that? Really?

1:17:34Ronnie Karam: You're not even worried about my feelings? She called me racist. And I have to call Carol to have my back and not you? How about that? How about what a good friend you are? Oh, yeah. And Julie's like, oh, the problem is she feels like everyone has bad intentions. And that's just not true. She's like, oh, she's trying to get me canceled and get me in trouble and calling me a racist. Carol, who has been my black friend longer than you've been my non-black friend, knows who I am.

1:18:02Ben Mandelker: This is exactly what everyone for years was warning me about and I refuse to listen. I'm ready to go. I think Julia is actually right about something. I do think that Adriana, because of whatever her past experiences in life, does think that everyone has the worst intentions. And what's more problematic is that she just naturally assumes that Kiki is trying to get her canceled. And actually, Kiki was not trying to do that at all. Kiki was merely trying to be like, hey, what you said right there, that's wrong. It's fucked up. It's problematic. And the fact that Adriana has now imposed this mindset, she's added this thing like, oh, well, she wants to get me canceled.

1:18:40Ben Mandelker: She wants to remove me. She wants to get me fired. The fact that she has now placed this like malevolent scheme on Kiki is that is actually really offensive. And that is what's more, I think, actually almost even more racist. I mean, I don't know. I'm a white guy. But like, like if that is really the offensive thing when someone's just trying to say, hey, don't call me that because that's like that like upsets me. There's a lot of connotation attached to what you just said. And Adriana takes it as like, now look at her trying to scheme or scheme, scheme her way and get me off this show.

1:19:13Ronnie Karam: well it's almost like that happened in that that argument half the wretched ratchet thing happened they had the apology and the i'm sorry for calling you old and then she thought okay well maybe i can let this go and then it's immediately like oh now she's fucking me with me for a cake so she is still coming for me she is going to come for me and they're going to call me race you know who knows but whatever is going on in her head this was a terrible episode for her oh my god this was just so cringy and so hard to watch I was like you've been doing so well all season why why it's Adriana

1:19:50Ben Mandelker: you can't she can't do well

1:19:53Ronnie Karam: yeah but Adriana usually has some kind of fun aspect to her fights like she's so campy and ridiculous that her fights are usually kind of funny but this is just oh girl no well no but good episode as usual um so we'll be back next week with the season finale of real housewives

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