#3015 RHOM S7E17 Part Two: Slay-bells

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1:55Ronnie Karam: Welcome you to this very important case. We've got a surprise for you. Julia Lemongor, the star of stage and screen and the heart, our heart star, singing extraordinary. Julia Lemongor. Please, you're embarrassing yourself. She's not even donating money to you and you're kissing her ass like this. Oh, my God, girl. So everyone claps. They put their earplugs. I love that Maria is like, I'll do this, but I'm not doing it without a backup. So they bring in superstar Laura Leon from the Magic Flute. And so they have her sing. So Julia is singing next to this professional opera singer, and they're not even singing a duet.

2:40Ronnie Karam: They're singing the exact same thing. And it is so sad because you hear the opera singer singing it beautifully and on key. And it's like, and then you hear Julia going.

2:54Ben Mandelker: The fact that Julia, she's like, oh, I've just been training for nine months to be an opera singer and now I'm good enough to sing opera. The fact that she even thinks that is so hilarious when people spend years getting their voice in that condition and it's so hard, it requires such skill. And this poor opera singer having to duet with her while Julia's like,

3:21Ronnie Karam: oh my god i mean bless her heart like go for what you love you know it's like you're never too old to start something new you know i believe that um because i'm doing it you know i try my own new things these days you're learning opera too yes i already know opera sir but you know i like to take my piano classes like i'm i'm a big believer in like doing things no matter your age So it's not even that. But like, if you're really serious about something, go join, be in a choir or go audition for the opera and be in the chorus. You know what I mean? But like her only goal is to just have a scene where she can sing opera once a year.

3:59Ronnie Karam: And it's like, come on, get serious. Let's get serious here if we're going to do this, okay?

4:05Ben Mandelker: Just five months ago, we were giving up on adoption because we thought that maybe that was not our destiny. And then we got phone call that says, please stop leaving awful opera singing on our voicemails. we'll give you children just never call us again look now we have luca and the other one

4:24Ronnie Karam: so um during her opera singing which is literally like cats being skinned alive is what it sounds like um to to good opera music it's a good one singing um so we see a montage of martina with the boys and i do think it's cute that we see martina teaching the boys tennis or one of them at least because she said she wasn't going to do that earlier and she sure enough is out there showing them her sport which i thought was pretty cute yeah she realized that like it's she's like

4:53Ben Mandelker: i can't let their lives go by without me regularly just saying run faster pussies hit the ball

5:01Ronnie Karam: listen if you don't have somebody to say you want to end up like stuffy graf you fucking wuss then what kind of life are you leading let me tell you something if i'd been stabbed i wouldn't have given up monica got a little dark there sorry yeah it did i was like i'm already in the midst of a laugh already in the midst maybe i should have made us a stephanie what was that girl stephanie who was like gonna be doesn't matter where'd you go anacornicova more like

5:34Ben Mandelker: Anacorna, no career, vuh. There, I got us back on track.

5:41Ronnie Karam: So the crowd cheers, which is interesting to hear people clapping because they weren't clapping with their hands. They were clapping their hands over their ears really hard, like just trying to shake what they just heard out of their brain. So then we go to Stephanie's Christmas party and Gertie's getting ready and she's jumping in her closet and she pulls down this hilarious fucking purse. It's just like big bowling ball of a purse. And it's like, Cinderella, almost ready to go. There we go. We're going to go. It's going to be amazing. It's going to be crazy.

6:16Ben Mandelker: We're going to have a great night. And I'm going to get so much jewelry. So then we see everyone else getting ready, getting dressed. And Stephanie's in makeup. And she's boring the hell out of her poor makeup artist. So pretend like she cares about this. She's like, Shoma's motto is do it big. Do it bright. Do it in style. Alienate your twin sisters or don't do it at all. Yeah.

6:40Ronnie Karam: So then we go over to Kiki and she's coming in with her father. And there's a red carpet, et cetera. And she's like, oh, I'm going to be on the naughty side tonight. Let's start with some bubbles. Thank you. So everybody's just doing hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi. and Stephanie has gifts from them or for them rather, which are probably Shoma caps. I don't know. I'm guessing.

7:05Ben Mandelker: Shoma the money. Shoma the money. My makeup artist said that. It was so funny. So then they all have, they go into their like little section and Kiki is saying that she brought her dad because he's Haitian and that this is going to be a fundraiser for Haiti. So that's going to be it. And then everyone's like saying hi to Loretta. They're like, oh my God, thank you. You did such a good job with Kiki. thank you so much for coming he's like uh thank you thank you he has no idea what anyone's saying he's like i can barely keep up he's like uh i'm just gonna say thank you because i don't speak this language so kiki's like oh yeah i think my i think the ladies will love my dad and maybe he'll love some of them because my dad is a flirt let's be honest so people show up carmen makes her big return after they hyped up carmen and she was on one episode and now she's back and uh carmen has

7:52Ronnie Karam: no lines right i think she says somebody's hot and that's all we hear from her the whole episode

7:57Ben Mandelker: because Kiki's like oh Carmen your boyfriend's hot and Kiki's like oh sorry Carmen and Carmen's like no he is hot that was it

8:06Ronnie Karam: yeah so then Lisa and Jodi arrive and I just love Lisa I love watching her arrive anywhere taking the red carpet like posing and Gertie meets Stephanie's parents and Lisa poses with Santa and Mrs. Claus and all that good stuff and Jody is mistaken for a nutcracker, which is awkward. Santa tries to put a walnut in his mouth.

8:33Ben Mandelker: He 100 % is a nutcracker, like off-duty. Off-duty nutcracker.

8:41Ronnie Karam: So Lars is like, I mean, I'm okay with seeing Jody because it's like the holiday likes. So I'm in the Christmas spirit, and I don't want to be like a screw-like. just like you know

8:55Ben Mandelker: so Kiki pulls Adriana and she's like can we talk bibs and so Adriana's like you look beautiful she's like yes you do too and are you excited about okay look I know you get nervous Adriana and I'm sorry we have to have this conversation now but I can't want to go in with a peaceful mind okay and I want to apologize to you she goes thank you about the whole cake thing and I'm sorry I did it but it was not coming from a bad place alright that's fine I accept your apology like adriana you have had a fissy hit a fissy hit a hissy fit for two episodes straight this that you screamed you had you you have meltdowns and then it's just like okay yeah i'm fine bye thanks like no like it's so like there's something that drives me nuts about that i feel like your apology has to kind of match the energy of not the apology the the way you accept the apology has to kind of match the energy of like the amount of time everyone invested in hearing you complain about a situation.

9:47Ben Mandelker: If you're going to complain and be annoyed and cause drama over birthday cake frosting, like a bad joke, but then you're not going to let Kiki sort of apologize properly because you're just going to brush it off and be like, yeah, no, it's fine. Bye. I'm like, that's not fair to us.

10:05Ronnie Karam: Well, here's my feeling about my guess about it. It's not really a deep feeling. You guys don't worry. I'm not going to pour feelings on you, but my thought is this. Adriana has somebody telling her, Adriana, stop. Just stop it. After that whole last episode, that was not a good look for Adriana. And I think someone was like, okay, you just had an episode where you brought your black friend on and said, look, I can't be racist. I have a black friend. This is really cringe. Stop it. Make this go away. You're in trouble. Make it go away. And so I think she's just like, okay, I forgive you.

10:40Ben Mandelker: It's also like the classic you can't fight a war on two fronts. So she's now decided, oh, yeah, Julia is my target. I don't. We all get Julia tonight. Because this is, yeah, this is like, everything's fine with me and Kiki. Yeah, it's fine. I need my allies right now. So now we're friends again.

10:57Ronnie Karam: But it would have been nice if Adriana had reciprocated there a little bit. Because she's like, well, all I know is that I said things and I apologize. But, you know, I didn't want to say things the way I said it. So maybe I chose the wrong word. But I want to move on and have a good night. I mean, okay. But I think you need a better apology. because Kiki's being really nice here, you know? And Kiki, whatever people say about the cake thing being so mean and this and that, okay, even if it was like shady, which, okay, it's still not that bad. It didn't deserve the punishment that it got. I don't think that was cool.

11:32Ronnie Karam: So she deserves an apology too, but they're getting over it. So that's good. So - And Kiki is so kind. I'm sorry.

11:38Ben Mandelker: Kiki is like, and to be honest with you, Adriana, I still think you are one of the most beautiful women your age.

11:45Ronnie Karam: she goes oh my age huh is that a backhanded compliment geeky i'm like just take it it just was like just please stop being offended over every little thing but it's very adriana because she goes it's christmas night i have the christmas spirit and i'm receiving and accepting the gift of apology and i have a full performance so i don't want to be distracted by petty little things which translates into i will yell at her tomorrow but i've emilio stephan's here yeah and adriana's

12:13Ben Mandelker: basically like, look, nothing's going to make me scream tonight. And then it goes, 30 minutes later, her screaming at Julia.

12:22Ronnie Karam: Alright, so now Kiki and Marisol are both with her. And Kiki's like, well, we miss you at Julia's event. She's like, well, I could not reschedule 12 people. The best musicians in Miami, okay? Oh, she was really her, you know, her little swan. Little swan. It was a swan song. It was a swan song. Very Sam Swan. Yeah.

12:45Ben Mandelker: So that's in 30 minutes to come. A little teaser of what's to come because she winds up screaming at Julia there and being like, fuck off, fuck off, fuck off. So then now Alexi and Julia arrive and Kiki, there's like Joe. Kiki's like, because Santa's like, ho, ho, ho. And Kiki's like, did you just call us hoes? And then - If the shoe fits, wear it right.

13:05Ronnie Karam: Am I right, Santa? Okay. I'm so good with Santa.

13:08Ben Mandelker: Everybody knows it. I'm a star. I like to call me Starry Claus. Except for the producer, it says, Alexia, have you been naughty this year or have you been nice? She was like, well, I'm always a combination of both, you know. And Larsa says, I haven't had sex in forever. So doesn't that automatically put you on the nice list like? I'm nice like.

13:30Ronnie Karam: No, virgins are assholes too. Yeah. I mean, what the hell? And so the women are posing for pictures with Santa and stuff. So then Kiki is with Julia. So she's like, oh my God, Adriana went off on us. She just missed us so bad. And Marisol's like, yeah, let's sit and talk about it. Well, we decided to take it upon ourselves to find out why Adriana didn't show up at your event. And Julia's like, well, I texted her the next day and I said, Adriana, I hope your rehearsal went well. Such a pity that you didn't. You missed my special event because it was so special. No response. No response. Zero. Zero response.

14:10Ben Mandelker: And Julia has a really sick burn here. She goes, so much emotion. I swept under the carpet for years. So much emotion under the carpet. It's not even a rug anymore. It's almost like a hill mountain with a rug on top of it. Okay. All right. All right.

14:27Ronnie Karam: So now Stephanie goes to the gifts and gives a speech. She's like, thank you so much for coming. Okay. This is very loud. Can we get this quieter? Because this is ridiculous. You're all fired. Okay. so we're gonna walk to the section next door for a concert so now they go next door and um it's 10 minutes late for the concert and stephanie's like um i don't know but this isn't a j-lo moment like we're not gonna be waiting i have stuff to do we need to get the show going this is my party

14:58Ben Mandelker: and they're all waiting because they all know it's gonna be a shitty concert and they're sitting there waiting and waiting and waiting and then like the music director go jonathan goes out to Adriana's like, everyone's waiting for you. She's like, well, they need to back off from the piano because nobody can be in this range. I have to leave the piano and walk to the stage. They all have to back the way the fuck up. She's like having a diva meltdown over her three-song concert that she's about to do.

15:23Ronnie Karam: She's mad because all her friends are too close to the stage and they all have their cell phones out and she doesn't want that. She's like pulling a big diva. She's like, no, this is very important. I'm an artist. And he's like, just get out there because Stephanie's like, oh my God, I'm going to kill her. Like you just see Stephanie in the front, she's losing it. So now it's 20 minutes late, but she comes out. And, you know, we make fun of people for singing to track a lot on these shows because it's like obvious that they're not even trying. But sometimes you should sing to track. And this is one of those times.

15:57Ronnie Karam: Track it up.

15:58Ben Mandelker: Yeah, not amazing. So she comes out on stage, the band starts playing. It sounds very much like a wedding band. And she's like, first she does feel the rush, which is the theme song to this show that we're watching, which is great. She's the only housewife who's had her song actually ascend to being like the theme song to her franchise. So she sings that and they're like, Maricel's like, I thought this was going to be a new song. I mean, what sort of wretched music is this?

16:25Ronnie Karam: Don't be careful what you wish for because you know she's got old wrinkled knees being written as we speak. It's her first torch song. My knees. Your knees are so old and wrinkle.

16:43Ben Mandelker: No, it'll just be in the style of Sabrina Carpenter. Knees, knees, knees.

16:51Ronnie Karam: Why aren't you smooth?

16:57Ben Mandelker: Knees, knees, knees.

17:00Ronnie Karam: Knees, knees. When it's cold outside, why do you get so frozen? You won't move.

17:07Ben Mandelker: I put on moisturizer and rub it in hard, but they still say wrinkled and look so old. Why?

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19:11Ronnie Karam: So everyone's dancing and taking videos. And next up is fire, fire. And then she sits down and like gets her flared arms out. you know, her whatever you call them. Like she's got flares all over her arms. And then she stands up. She's done. And I love, I love that last week she's like, I've been practicing the piano for this. Yeah.

19:39Ben Mandelker: I love my dog. I love my dog. I love my dog. I love my dog. I love my dog. I love my dog. I really love my dog. I really love my dog. I really love my dog. And the funny thing is that like, Robin Thicke actually has a song that does like the same thing. He literally has a song that takes Beethoven's fifth and he goes singing around with it. It's crazy. Oh, really? She's the new Robin. She's the new Robin.

20:02Ronnie Karam: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Who sings about their dog? I think it's stupid because if you really love your dog, you don't have to sing about it. And if you do, you should sing it at home to your dog so your dog can hear you sing it. Like, it's not in the middle of a stage. Like, nobody wants to hear that.

20:21Ben Mandelker: Alexia is so dead serious about her own logic on this which could be applied to any love song I just want to say don't sing about your dog in public you shouldn't do that it's not nice

20:32Ronnie Karam: who sings about their dog so yeah she's still singing about the dog like she really goes there and that's her final song it has a slideshow too an AV experience they're all like wow and everyone cheers and then it just cuts to Kiki and she goes, wow, the mighty has fallen.

20:55Ben Mandelker: Unlike her age, this one is really dropping. So they're like, wow, that was good. Larsa, Adriana, that was like so good. Like that was like really good. And Stephanie's like, the dog song took me off guard. Was that a tribute to the two dogs that we put into the apartment upstairs? Remember when that was gonna be a storyline? The dogs had pooped in the apartment. Remember that? So Julia's like, okay, well, can I pull my bestie from one singer to another? I want to congratulate her in person. So Julia pulls Adriana. And, you know, Adriana's like, oh, I'm so out of breath. It's been a long day. She's like, oh, I'm, you know that I am happy for you.

21:34You know, I'm really, really, really happy for you.

21:38Ben Mandelker: So happy.

21:39Ronnie Karam: Okay, well, maybe I don't know, Julia, because, I mean, you've been so, like, weird, you know, recently.

21:45Ben Mandelker: Oh, was I? Was I being weird?

21:48Ronnie Karam: Yeah, you like being to yourself and to Marisol, okay? So, there.

21:53Ben Mandelker: Well, you introduced me to that group, and I feel like you are punishing me now for getting close to me.

21:58Ronnie Karam: Don't gaslight me. Don't gaslight me. What happened?

22:02Ben Mandelker: Why didn't you come for my event where I sang terrible opera next to piano for foster children?

22:07Ronnie Karam: I have a band. A band for 12 people, okay? This is very big. This is my dream since I was a little baby.

22:15Ben Mandelker: Oh, well, why you never text me? Even a foster child who never listened to opera would text me back.

22:23Ronnie Karam: Yes, a foster child just texted me and said, please stop singing. So even they know how to text. Come on. And she's like, I have dreams of this. You want to come compete with me, Julia? You started this last year. You know, I've been doing this for 14 years, Julia. This is important. Oh, so you're jealous of me singing. she's like no I'm not jealous you didn't even tell me you were doing that okay so this is very Julia to be like not even mention it and then get mad that you didn't show up for it

22:53Ben Mandelker: yeah and Julia is like it's about this thing and Adriana is saying like no it's about this is about you being fake and mischievous and a bad friend and I don't want to throw you under the bus like this but you keep on pushing me I'm gonna do it like shame on you Adriana shame on you she's like Oh, shame on you. Shame on you for not respecting my lifetime dream to sing about my dog in the lobby of a building. For trying to get my life from me. You're toxic. The mask is off.

23:21Ronnie Karam: I wish you love. She goes, oh, I see you for who you are. And now I'm going to treat you like you treat me and I'm going to be your friend of me too. So see how you like it.

23:32Ben Mandelker: So she walks off. Stephanie's like, are you kidding me? Adriana and Julia are fighting at the holiday party for the Shoma Bazaar? what the fuck is going on with these girls it's christmas and we have an espresso station in the corner for people who want to turn this into a workspace after the party i can't believe they

23:46Ronnie Karam: would do this well if that's how you want to leave it oh do you support me do you know that my band is 12 people did you tell me when your thing is so you see she didn't even tell her when her thing was this is so fucking julia and this is why adriana always loses because she's got a point but she acts like such an idiot that no one ever listens to her you know she goes off and acts crazy and nobody listens to what she's saying but i fucking knew that she didn't tell her i knew it

24:13Ben Mandelker: and then julia tries to pull this card she goes well have you checked in on my children she goes well am i their godmother she's really she's you'll use me how how did i use it to get into this group and now you don't feel like you need me anymore go go be with your real friends um so

24:30Ronnie Karam: meanwhile we just get a shot of marisol alexia you know lying all over each other on the couch playing kissy face and they're going like i love you bro i love you bro oh you found your tribe julia look at them over there knees casing old wrinkly knees intertwined okay um you manipulate your gas light and then adriana tells us i mean who gets engaged nine times nine times until she finally landed you know a champion player you're here tonight because of me because nobody would

25:06Ben Mandelker: ever found you in that shit place you lived in okay nobody would have ever found you there i brought you in here i brought you into this group i gave you all your moments you are a user you are user julia's like there's no hope for you i have seen adriana yelling and screaming numerous times on different people. And then we see quite a significant montage of Adriana yelling at everyone. I mean, Adriana has yelled at everyone. Let's be honest. Julia's not wrong on this front.

25:36Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but Julia has too. Julia has yelled at a lot of people too. And Julia gets physical and throws things at people. She threw water. She threw a bucket of ice on Marisol. So it's not like she's some little innocent bystander.

25:47Ben Mandelker: I threw a party for opera singers and foster babies. so adriana's like do we have to get into every conversation and so uh anyway sorry so we just see like a montage of the screaming and julia's like that's how she does things so adriana sits down next to lisa he's like come on over here you'll be fine she's like can you believe i have to hear that shit after my big performance like okay well at least he did not play woodstock

26:13Ronnie Karam: yeah yeah i don't know how you got that classical thing out i mean that was really rough That was huge. Oh, well, what people don't know is in front of everybody, she was acting like my best friend, but behind closed doors. She was guilt-tripping me for things. She was controlling me. She was yelling at me. She was making me feel smaller than this all the time.

26:35Ben Mandelker: So, Laura's was asking, like, what happened? And Julia's like, I'll tell you later. And she's like, and I can't take it anymore. I'm done. It's like four years of freaking mental psychological abuse. so uh speaking of which we now endure that because stephanie has the microphone good evening everyone and welcome to the magical christmas celebration here at shoma bazaar tonight is about celebrating the joy of the season with those who make life so special and i'm truly honored to share it with all of you here and i'm launching a new cocktail at the shoma bazaar called the kiki courage so now there's gonna be a beverage at this place and um it's for kiki and it's for her foundation for the people of haiti and um you know all these things come out these signs and big images of her of her face and kiki gets on stage and she thanks everyone and she talks about how haiti has gone through unimaginable struggles and she's really happy to have proceeds go to haitian health foundation which is really great and she's really happy because her dad gets to see her in this

27:36Ronnie Karam: moment giving back to the country yeah so alexia and stephanie are holding up cutouts of kiki's face they're all cheering for her and so they move on to the drinks and everyone's posing for photos and um adriana uh so adriana is talking to kiki again so kiki is like adriana i have a question earlier i was talking to marisol and marisol clearly said that she was the one that told you not to use the word to say ratchet to say ratchet and she's like oh my i've just was like oh my god

28:08Ben Mandelker: i mean this season here's why the season is so good you have larsa and lisa how it starts with larsa and lisa having a fight over marcus jordan and then eventually lisa unfollows marcus jordan and took forever, all season long. She unfollows Marcus Jordan. They go to a dinner. Adriana says that Lisa did this. She wasn't supposed to say it. Kiki tells her you weren't supposed to say it. Adriana says, stop being ratchet. Kiki is like, you were too old to be saying those things. It becomes a fight. Julia does not stand up for Adriana enough. And now this entire fight, like this entire fight, this entire thing, it all just, it's all connected to all these storylines.

28:51Ben Mandelker: And I think those are the best seasons when you have one stupid thing in the beginning that just gets bigger and bigger and bigger and then just like, it's like a entertaining cancer that takes over the entire cast. And now this is where we are. Yep. Yes, no balls.

29:04Ronnie Karam: So we see one hour earlier, Marisol is telling Kiki, she was like, well, she did call you ratchet. And I gave her the word wretched to save her fucking ass. Okay, well, how does that make you look good? Yeah, exactly. If you believe that Adriana said something fucking terrible and that has problematic, that's highly problematic to a black woman and you didn't stand up and say, Adriana, you don't say that to a black woman and instead went and helped her come up with some little excuse or some alibi or whatever, then doesn't that make you fucking wretched? Like, what the fuck? Yeah. Gross. Like, only Marisol would think, like, I'm going to stick her with this one.

29:49Ronnie Karam: It's like, you look worse. Like, yeah.

29:51Ben Mandelker: She goes, I said, I'm going to help you clear this ratchet thing up. And I'm going to come up with a word that sounds just like it. And you can explain, you can just say it's your accent. And I said, and I helped you. And I said, don't fucking put me, like, don't come for me for two more years. Just leave me alone. But now stuff's coming back to me. You can't leave me alone. So then Marisol explained, Pips told me under the radar that she had said something to Stephanie, to Stephanie, to get Stephanie mad at me. I was like, what? What?

30:23Ronnie Karam: So Adriana said something to Stephanie to get Stephanie mad at her. No, Stephanie started that whole conversation. Larza, shut up, Larza. That whole conversation was Stephanie sitting down with Marisol and getting mad at Marisol on her own. That had nothing to do with Adriana doing it. And Stephanie was the one who sat with her at that lunch and said, you know, I think Marisol is really a backstabber and two-faced and this and that. And Adriana just smiled.

30:48Ben Mandelker: well what's also funny is that the evidence of this is the the big thing that adriana did according to marisol is that adriana we see this scene of adriana stephanie sitting and adriana says you gotta understand marisol has a pr company she knows how to influence people so she uses all that knowledge that she has when it comes to that and meaning that like that like what marisol heard is that Adriana said she manipulates people and situations. And now Marisol's saying like, look, I manipulated a situation for her so I could influence the outcome. And now she's going around telling people that I manipulate situations and have influence over people.

31:28Ben Mandelker: I've had it.

31:30Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And I was like, are you kidding me? I mean, I just said lay off me for two years. So I said, oh, guess what? She said ratchet. I came up with ratchet and there you go. And Adriana's like, oh, she manipulates. She manipulates. She manipulates shit. She goes, oh, no, you said what you said. Are you going to manipulate also that you called me old, but it didn't hurt me as much as it hurt you when Kiki said it? She goes, yes, yes. And Marisol's like, you're the manipulator. So Adriana tells us, she's like, I was just pouring my heart explaining what I meant. And Marisol goes, oh, you meant this.

32:02Ronnie Karam: And she pulls out the word and says, you owe me forever. So that's an example of Marisol. And that actually does make more sense than what Marisol is saying.

32:10Ben Mandelker: It actually does. I don't think that Marisol was like, this is what you've got to say. It's more like, oh, this is the word you were thinking of. Yeah. Did you mean, were you trying to say wretched? It wasn't like she said, hey, kid, this is what you got to tell the people, right? Sort of hard. Let me think.

32:29Ronnie Karam: What would work? What sounds like wretched? What could it be? I mean, I just stayed up all night trying to come up with something to tell her. And then I thought of a word, wretched. I don't believe that.

32:41Ben Mandelker: She's like, yeah, you called her ratchet. Which by the way, I still believe that Adriana called her ratchet. And Adriana's like, she's like, no, you're wretched. Like you're old and miserable, you know, like wretched. Like remember when she said I was old and it was terrible? It turns out I called her old first, which was okay.

32:59Ronnie Karam: Oh, here we go again. You're calling me old again. And Alexis is like, Adriana, don't do it. Don't do it. Don't call people old. Oh, you look like you're going to a funeral, Marisol. because she was wearing black. And Marisol's like, I don't want to talk to you anymore. Oh, go to a funeral then. Go to the funeral. She's like, well, you look like you're going to an ice skating rink. An ice skating rink. Oh, burn. Burn on the ice, guys. I did it.

33:24Ben Mandelker: Listen, guys, don't fight at Shoma Bazaar. This is the holidays. It's about giving back, loving each other, trying to get onto my private plane. Okay, let's have fun. So Gertie's like, okay, gifts, gifts, gifts. Oh, God, we have gifts. Oh, my God, I'm so glad we have time for the gifts. Okay, can we hurry this up? Okay, we got, like five five minutes to open up these gifts so then people are opening up boxes and it's a makeup kit and kiki is like from now on whenever i fight one of those bitches i'm just gonna be like i got a gift for you and don't look at me etc so now they're all happy because they're opening up makeup and and things like that and marisol's like oh thank you santa thank you oh santa wow thank you so much so adriana's like thanking um she thanks stephanie and alexia she's like thank Thank you for being my backup dancers.

34:09Ben Mandelker: You girls were amazing. And now we start to see the little updates for the end of the season. So Adriana is working on taking her show on the road, but with one less fan in the crowd, because she's still not speaking to Julia.

34:24Ronnie Karam: Dun, dun, dun. And then we see Vika has finally met the boys, but Emma still hasn't.

34:33Ben Mandelker: And Kiki is working on a relationship with her dad, and she's getting ready to buy a condo in Stephanie's building.

34:41Ronnie Karam: Oh, and then we see Julie at home with the kids and Julie's like, Jackson, are you creating music? Oh,

34:52Ronnie Karam: look at him. He's eating lemon. He is my son. That's what I do. I eat lemon too. And Martina's like, they like lemon. They like olives. They like ginger. They like silence. They've been asking for that.

35:06Ben Mandelker: They like strong flavors, to which I say, strong flavors isn't going to bring the ball closer to your racket. Roam!

35:15Ronnie Karam: Julia co-starred in Florida Grand Opera's Carmen. Oh, so I take it back. Julia is doing something. Oh, sorry, I rescind. Vika has finally met the boys, but Emma still hasn't. So then at Larza's, she's FaceTiming Justin, and she's like, Justin, look, I also wanted to show you the hot tub. There's a gummy bear staring at me. It's kind of weird. I don't like it.

35:37Ben Mandelker: To add to her new house, Larsa is dating a new man, a basketball player, Jeff Kobe. And Jeff predicts that they'll be married by the end of the year, just in case Larsa plans on freezing more eggs.

35:51Ronnie Karam: Haven't you frozen your face enough? I mean, do the eggs come out frozen too? They come out frozen. Just have them taken. You've got so much Botox in you. Those eggs have been frozen for years, okay?

36:04Ben Mandelker: Larsa, we know your timeline. Okay, I appreciate that you're freezing your eggs, but we know your timeline. So then you've been with us for many years. Okay. Also, I'm glad to see she's with yet another love-bomb-y basketball player. And then we go to Gertie's home. And now she's with the kids, and they're making jokes about cats. And Gertie continues to take solo therapy. She has no plans for additional reconstructive surgery. For now. Done.

36:39Ben Mandelker: And Lisa's condo, Lisa inspired by her tumultuous divorce, Lisa and Judy developed an app called Splitwell, which is, okay. It's kind of a good idea, I think.

36:52Ronnie Karam: Like they teach you how to get divorced. I thought so. Wasn't that last year's storyline? Yeah, I think that's true because I remember hearing that before. Yeah. I like it. It's kind of like a good companion to Madewell.

37:04Ben Mandelker: It's like, oh, you can buy something from the Madewell brand and then get something from Splitwell.

37:10Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So Stephanie is at her condo with Masood, her dreamboat, Masood. And she's like, a lot of thoughts are going through my head. The baby situation. I don't talk to my sisters. I left them voicemails. I just want a phone call from a sister. It doesn't have to be both. I mean, they're identical twins. I'll just take one.

37:28Ben Mandelker: Soon after Stephanie's dream came true, one twin started talking to her. Although technically what the twin said was shut the fuck up and stop talking about me on TV. That comes from me and my sister. Bye. It's a voicemail.

37:41Ronnie Karam: So Mary's souls, um, Mary's soul and Alexia are hanging out and, um, Mary's souls like, I'm just worried. I want you to be happy. Be with Todd. If it makes you happy. Bye. How do I work into the picture with you and Todd? I mean, well, am I going to still be your friend? She's like, okay, so if we get back together, you're always going to be in my life, except when I'm busy with Todd. and it doesn't matter what you say. I'm not going to hear it because I'm going to be with Todd. Like you were a great friend to me and I'm sorry that you've died to me as a friend. But you know what? You've always happened and he's going to have to understand that even though I'm never going to bring you around to bother Todd.

38:16Ben Mandelker: I talk shit about Todd. I don't care. So then Marisol and Steve are looking for their next wedding location. Water will not be served, but cockies sure will be.

38:27Ronnie Karam: And finally,

38:28Ben Mandelker: don't worry though, Todd and Alexia, They have spent all season working on their relationship. You know, she was so mad. She said narcissists should die. And then she started to realize that they do have something. They love each other, which is why inevitably we had this update. Tata has officially divorced Alexia.

38:46Ronnie Karam: So does that mean he did bamboozle her? And they were like, he's going to bamboozle you. Yeah.

38:51Ben Mandelker: They tried dating, but have broken up for now.

38:54Ronnie Karam: Oh, gosh. Well, Miami, great season as usual. Love this show. and we've still got three weeks of reunion coming up. So that should be pretty fun.

39:04Ben Mandelker: Yeah, looking forward to it. Thanks everyone for being here.

39:07Ronnie Karam: Thanks for being with us this season. We'll talk to you next time.

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