#3023 RHOM S7E18: Sleeping with the Enemy

0:21Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crap Ends, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo we love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker. Joining me today is the hilarious and glorious Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How are you? Well, hello. How's it going? It's going really well. We're talking about the Miami reunion today, which was pretty amazing. Very excited to get into it. Monday, we've got crappy hour, so join us for that. That's going to be 530 on the West Coast, 830 on the East Coast. and also join us on Patreon. We did a recap of With Love Megan, which is on Netflix. So that's our bonus episode. You also have video content on there that's available for a week before it goes to YouTube.

1:03So you get that exclusive window. So we have a lot of fun on there. Excited for that. I want to give out, can I give a shout out to our friend Michelle Collins? I forgot to mention this on the OC recap, but I went to see her show Wednesday night, her show, and I think it's called Wait Why Don't I Know You? That's the name of her show. When I tell you it was the funniest thing ever I literally, I almost peed my pants and that's not an exaggeration. I literally had a moment where I thought wow I'm getting old because I really had to be content. So that's just my way of saying if she's coming to your city definitely go see her.

1:40It was so funny. We always have to support our friends. Go check out Michelle's show and it's also appropriate because she's from Miami so there's a tie in to this. But yeah, just wanted to give her a shout out about that. She is one of the funniest people on the planet. Yeah. She's hilarious, that lady. Good for her. Right on, Michelle. Another tour. Nail it, baby. Nail it. But today, we're talking about other funny women who are funny for different reasons. And that is this reunion. What did you think, Ronnie, about this first installment? Love it. I can't believe they gave us the bombshell.

2:14Do you think that was the bombshell or is there another one? That was the bombshell. that I guess it was such a big bombshell that's going to have a repercussions throughout the rest of the rest of the reunion but I was not expecting that as the bombshell we've seen the preview that Adriana gives Julia a box and she's like I have a I have a present for you and so she opens it and everyone's shocked like it's a tiny little Gwyneth's head in there or something so I thought that was going to be the bombshell so I don't know are there more bombshells coming yeah I thought the bombshell was going to be like Adriana always liked my friend, but it turns out we're going to get some emails that were threatening and abusive, whatever.

2:51I thought it was going to be like that, but I wasn't expecting this. That was a good one. Good for you, Julia. We open with everybody coming to the reunion, getting their makeup did as usual. Lee says, it's cool as a cucumber. I'm as cool as a cucumber because you know what I have on my side? The truth. The truth is on my side. Then Jody, you have Jody on your side. You always got me. Listen, I can guarantee you this. I don't know what's going on today. I'm not going to open. Laura says like, I'm not really like a receipt girl. Like, I don't need to keep like things on my phone. Like, I keep beautiful photos of my feet, my children, my boyfriend.

3:31Not in first grade. It's like, I love that order of priorities. My feet, my children, and my boyfriend. I'm not in first grade. Yeah. Mature people keep pictures of their feet on their phones. Liza. I keep beautiful photos of my feet, my children, and my boyfriend. That is such an amazing quote. I hope that gets put on to a poster someday.

3:55So we see her boyfriend, Jeff Kobe. He's laughing on the couch. He just loves this. He's like, my feet, my children, my boyfriend, our man, in for life, I tell you. So we go over to Stephanie's dressing room, and she's just being wacky. Stephanie really corrected in the middle of the season, and now she's just going to be fun and love everybody. I don't know. Changing her delivery. I don't know. Yeah. Guys, no joke, you have 11 minutes. Which by the way, how many times does she say that to makeup people? That's like the moment she loves. Guys, no joke, it's 11 minutes, you better hurry up. Then we go to Julia and she's like already crying.

4:30She's like, it's just the last month, a lot of comments. It was really hard for me and for my family. And we see all these quotes of people being like, Julia needs to be deported back to Russia. Julia needs to be dragged, literally and figuratively. Oops, Julia's running the show. 100 % hated this bitch. so she's not doing so well emotionally with the fact that the audience has turned on her massively no she's like i'm not weak i'm just so sensitive and she's like sobbing in her chair and i'm i felt for her for a minute and then i remembered that she's going to be awful at about five so i was like i'm going to hold off on that i'll hold off on my um empathy or my sympathy for a while babe so um then adriana is checking on gertie and uh they're both ready for battle and meanwhile while Julie is still sobbing.

5:15She's like, I don't even have Martina with me. She's with the boys at home. I really wish she could be here for me to admit to America that I cheated on her. Oh, I have to do this alone. Alexi and Marisol run in. Oh, bro. Okay, come on, Jay. It's not like they give a big group hug. Like, oh, no, it's okay. We got you. We got you. We got you. I just want you. And he walks in and he's like, hey, hey, Cher. Oh, that's what I was going for. but with more dick. Well, that's perfect. How are you feeling about today? Well, we have our little difference, but we'll get to it. Wrong answer. You're supposed to say we're going to scream at each other and I don't know how we get through it.

5:54Okay. All right. Setting intention. Okay. Going to say hi to Alexia now. Hi, Alexia. Hola. Hey, how? Check. I'm moving and eat too. Oh, me gusta la naranches. Amarillo. Amarillo. It's Amarillo. Amarillo. It's your mama Tambien Biddy biddy Bamba La la la La la Bamba So then Stephanie comes out oh this is a beautiful set Oh this is almost this is almost as nice As Shoma Bazaar this is really nice This is really really nice do you guys have a Do you guys have a like an espresso machine Slash stage for Adriana's band no okay And she gets first chair, which I think is. You're right. I didn't even pay attention to that.

6:46She did get first chair. Yeah, she got first chair. And so then Kiki, you know, everybody arrives and compliments each other. But Kiki doesn't like that Stephanie doesn't have her tits out. She's like, you need more tit. That's what you need. Next time, more tits out. So then Julia comes. You know, everybody comes out and says hi. But the big news is Lisa is on time, everybody. And they're shocked. and Adriana brings her damn dog on Basquiat and she's like it's my emotional support dog Andy I need Basquiat here I love him I don't know if you've heard my new single which is raging all over the charts I love my dog I love my dog I love my dog she literally released that as a song did she?

7:30I love my dog I posted a thing of Taylor Swift's new album coming out and put her face on it I love my dog and I'm like yeah it's a good album Taylor's best album in years and yeah that's from the professional recording of I Love My Dog oh but I didn't realize she like released it on like iTunes I thought it was just it's fine well I would expect nothing less from her so then Bosky can't stay out there it'll be too chaotic because we know that Bosky is going to try to hump every leg we saw the footage from earlier in the season when he went to his horse let dog have one last trip to paradise that was good that was my favorite scene of the season I think that was great actually.

8:09Hey everybody. Welcome to Miami season seven reunion. I'm Andy Cohen, hoping to earn all the red flags for most likely to ask shady questions tonight. Hola sombreros. Hola. Oh Macarena. Okay. Ladies tonight, our location is inspired by one of Miami's many iconic and vibrant rooftop bars and it would be a Miami reunion unless we kick things off with some tequila. God, I wonder why these reunions are always so chaotic. Okay, everyone, drink up. He says, this is the only reunion where we begin with the tequila shot, which is funny. So, they take Hey, Kiki, don't try to get too late. Come on, like.

8:58Alright, Mary's soul, give us a toast. Cheers, everybody. Let's just have a good fucking reunion, alright? That's my cheers. all right stephanie if nautical staff was as cool as a cucumber what can we expect from reunion staff thank you andy thank you for making a callback to like my viral joke that i like broke the internet like nautical staff is so funny hashtag nautical staff i'm just gonna try to be cool as cucumber too but you know like i'm i'm still gonna like voice my opinion like all right and larsa you brought a special guest today is it a framed photo of your feet no like i feel like i I brought my boyfriend like because I feel like everybody's like I feel like met him like.

9:37So, but like he's here like. How long has it been? I think like eight months. No, since you guys last broke up. Oh, probably like two days ago. But yeah, it's great. And he wants to marry you by the end of the year. I read it in the French magazine. And it says Real Housewives, Larsa Pippen reacts to Jeff Gobi saying they're getting married in November. as he talks about ring shopping. Plus, she reveals why he stands out from past relationships. So, is she going to be Mrs. Kobe by 2026? She's like, I feel like I think so like feel like. Yeah, I think so. Okay, cool. Well, we all know this is going to end in failure so we'll let you try to pretend like it's going to be something.

10:26Mrs. Kobe trying it. So, Andy's like, Kiki! What's the latest on the new condo? You're living in a show about condos? She's like, no, I'm living in a different condo, but I'd already made plans to move into a show about before I even knew about Stephanie. So, Stephanie, you got to give me half off. And Stephanie's like, what? Half off? That's crazy. You know, it doesn't work that way. This is big discount. Marisol, how is your pristine colon? She's like, oh, great, colon questions. Oh, today it feels especially gun-amity. My knees could use a little help. My knees are taking a little bit of a bullying this season And even my colon's feeling fine Thanks for asking Adriana, who has a higher sex drive?

11:09You or Basquiat? Remember when you had a boyfriend for one episode At the beginning of the season? Basquiat However, he has not hired somebody from France To come in and pretend that he's the boyfriend For a few months So I don't know who wins this one, Andy It's a toss-up It's a toss-up Julia, you're coming up on a year since you and Martina have had the boys in your life. Do they have any sense of what a champion Martina is? Yes, I think they do. Because Martina walks in and wakes them up every morning by saying, Wake up, a champion is waking you up. So I think they're starting to get the point.

11:44They understand because Martina watches tennis all day and she tells the boys, Champion on TV, look at Champion on TV. I can tell you they call Steffi Graf useless and sorryful. I don't know. You take this how you will. Whenever we go to Denny's, Martina will only allow them to eat a Grand Slam. And she says, I won that, but the real one. Not some pussy version with pancakes. And then she throws the pancake on the floor. It's so funny. Lisa, we're gonna cover a lot of different topics. Any plans to take notes? I always take notes, Andy. Well, you recently rang the opening bell at NASDAQ, which was hilarious.

12:27Why did they let you in the room? What the fuck were you doing at NASDAQ? Why are all the other celebrities taking that day? How did Lisa Hoxstein ring a bell at the NASDAQ? Did she think it was NASCAR? What happened here? That was a real bitch-me moment, Andy. It was on my bucket list. Really? my bucket list. I want to ring the bell at the New York Stock Exchange. No, she didn't even do the stock. She did the NASDAQ, which is not even the stock exchange. Gertie got to do the New York Stock Exchange. Not that one's better than the other, I don't think. But like, I do like that Lisa has his moment with NASDAQ, but then it's like, it's superseded by Gertie doing the New York Stock Exchange instead.

13:09She's like, yes, I got to do that. It was really amazing. I couldn't believe that I was able to do that. And unlike a cruise ship, I was actually allowed to be there and I wasn't kicked off for some reason. But yeah, it was for breast cancer. It was symbolic. Where's your bell, Captain Sandy? Alexia, when I last saw you, you said your relationship with Todd changes. So how's it doing at 11.35 a.m. today? He's like, we're no longer together, Andy. And zero contact. I haven't seen, I haven't spoken to him. I blocked him from my social media, from my phone, from my emails, from everything. It's the only way to do it, Andy.

13:43That's how I am. Strong. It's me. Strong. Hold on. Something's buzzing in my pocket. Maybe it's Todd. Maybe it's not. It's not that we're still broken up. Are you still going by Nipola? Well, legally I am, but like, not that it matters, but like on social media, I removed Nipola. I just Alexia, you know, like Madonna. I'm just Alexia. I never really identified with that last name. I never feel like, you know, and I feel like you really have to feel it. You know, I never felt like Nipola, you know, like, you know what? I feel free, Andy, because all you have, you have no idea. I would come to these reunions and I would be in a fight and he would torture me and And he would say that.

14:17None of you women were my friends. And I would say, no, but I'm a star. Of course they love me. I'm a star. And you know what? You know, like that's what I was going through on this show. Yeah, he would pick fights with her. And she'd tell me the day before, Tom picked a fight with me. And then we'd go to the reunion. He wouldn't talk to her. She'd go home and he still wouldn't talk to her. I mean, I don't know how she came out of here and did it because the reunion is a hard day. It's a very difficult day. We're artists. And to come out here and just perform our art like this, it takes something, Andy.

14:45I mean, we all went to school for this for many, many years. This is a very, very difficult profession. And to not have the support of the old man who's currently funding your condo dreams. I mean, it's rough, Andy. I mean, thank God I got Steve back there being like the iron that I need to keep me going. Like, hey, Steve, how are you doing? Oh, can someone wake up, Steve? I don't think he realizes. Hey, can we cut to the Steve cam to see what Steve's up to? Cut to Steve just being like, so your name is Jeff. Play football. Football. Yeah, basketball. Yeah, I'm more of a golf kind of a person myself.

15:25You golf? No? You ever listen to Frankie Avalon? No. So Andy is like, okay, well, Todd's been active on social media. Islington Boys on Instagram posted a question to Todd, and he said the wife of a friend said that she's driving his fake car living in his fake apartment. what should she do to which Todd replied hello Eslington boys I would like to say I'm very sorry that you had to be adore that question over here on social media the truth is that actually it depends does the woman bring anything to the relationship or is she just there to get things hold on new piece of paper I apologize to Alexia when I said that comment 10 seconds ago that was not my best self I was in an angry place and sometimes when you're angry you say things you don't mean.

16:10Please accept this box of Godiva chocolates on my behalf to know that I meant nothing by it at all. Thank you. Todd. I would like to apologize heretofore and now at then to Dippin' Dots for not offering their services during my apologies. I have now remedied this and sent Alexia Dippin' Dots to apologize for my behavior, which was theretofore unreliably nasty. Thank you so much for your matter to this attention Well you know first of all That's like very typical Todd Because we all know he loves to do videos And then we see videos of Todd Like giving all those apologies And like so it doesn't It doesn't surprise me that he would say something like that Because he obviously knows that I wasn't there for the money Okay I was just there for the eco department Okay well Which is why I'm dating a poor person right now Andy You know Like my next person is going to be poor Really?

17:07No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding, Andy. Come on. I'm not there for the money, but I would not be there without the money. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

17:24Basically, she's like, we all know Todd's a raging fucking crazy person and goes and makes rude videos online. That's part of his charm, Andy. So then the question is, okay well you now finally admit that that uh narcissist party was for todd and so of course alexia flip-flops and she's like okay now i'm gonna admit it stephanie that was for him that was for him that's true that's true i i know it's like a big shock to everybody like after i said this is a narcissist party and it's for todd but it was for todd it was stephanie's like i knew it i knew it was about todd and it's like okay there you go so are you gonna start date are you gonna start dating?

18:04Well, I feel like I should, but because you know, like, you know that there's an old expression that says one nail drives out another. That's like a Spanish saying that's like a new nail takes out, like when you cut your nail, the nail, another nail grows back. So, you know, like what I'm trying to say is I'm going to get a manicure after this at Frankie and Alexia's nail salon. Thank you. Well, um, Mary's all explains that it means like the best way to get, uh, over somebody is to get under somebody new. Basically. Oh, is that what that meant? Yeah, she's like... I thought she pointed at the finger.

18:36I thought when she pointed at the finger, it meant like a new nail comes in when you get rid of the old one. My biggest revenge is getting my power, Andy. That's my biggest revenge, okay? You know what I'm taking my... You know what? I gave somebody new hair today, and I won. I won, Andy. So you feel like you have your power back? Yes, I do. Although, actually, there's a power out there, so I actually don't have power in the condo. But, like, you know, generally speaking... But I got it back, yeah. It's not powerful, but I got it. I got it. That's great. All right. Let's switch gears. Gertie, viewers love seeing you with Nicole this season for five minutes.

19:10How was that? Do you hang out? We're set to see each other very soon. It'll be a mini reunion, Andy. Mini reunion. It's going to be amazing. Here, I have the details for it right here. Please join Nicole on a boat with Captain Sandy. God damn it. I'm going to get kicked out of the restaurant again. Well, I'm curious if you think your issues with Julia would have turned out differently if Nicole were there. My issue with Julia would be great if she had picked up the phone and called me directly, Andy, instead of having some lady named Norma call me and telling me that I'm fired. Well, one of the biggest things that viewers reacted to was the women's lack of reaction to the water toss.

19:49So we see all that and Gertie is saying, well, I was like, I was repacked. It was like, I literally repacked. I literally repacked. I don't know what she's even trying to say there. But then, oh, I guess this is just the fight. Sorry. Sorry, I thought we're back in present time, but we're still in the flashback. So they have the fight, the water thing. And Alexia's like, yeah, I mean, like looking back and reliving this and like watching it, like I wish I would have said something and I wish I would have done more. And I mean, the way that Julia disrespected Gertie, that was not okay. Okay, it was not right.

20:21You know, and I feel like we were just in shock because who would do that in front of a star? right and at that moment there's like no excuse that we didn't stick up for gertie except for all the excuses we're about to give yeah so i wanted to i want you to know that there's no excuse and like i'm never going to say anything about it even though i'm about to make 20 excuses about it and tell you how it's your fault okay and so lars is like yeah but like like sometimes like we're like what happened but like but we were like i feel like i don't condone this behavior but like julia didn't know she was going to do that so it wasn't rehearsed or something so like it's okay because she didn't rehearse it so like i think it was like very reactive like she just wanted to throw it at the table and we all got soaked it wasn't just it wasn't just gertie i'm like oh okay okay so you guys don't want to make any excuses all dresses matter yeah all tablecloths matter guys it's like the same thing so wait you confirmed that she intended to throw the water towards me uh well it was directly at her like what do you what do you need confirmation i'm saying like we should have all done more but like however like sometimes when you're sitting there you don't do anything like you didn't do anything when adriana threw a whole glass at me and gertie and then we go back to 2022 dun dun dun and we see that there was that did happen and there no there was no reaction from anyone and adriana's like i did not throw a glass at you she's you threw a whole glass at me a drink and a glass a drink inside of a glass but the drink came out of the glass because you threw it so it fell out of the glass but they both came out also you threw ice at me that day don't forget like you threw ice at me because there was like you threw a straw at me too remember there's an umbrella someone took an umbrella and shrank it and put it in the in the glass instead of like celebrating that like amazing feat of science you threw it you almost broke the scientific miracle yeah that is called beaker deflection okay you're trying to bring science into something to deflect okay and i don't know what you're saying like what are you getting at right now wait do you accept alexia's apology no that wasn't an apology no no i literally came to listen more than i'm going to speak so i would like to listen for an apology they're like um but like she so she's like okay well you know what there is a history in this group and there is a pattern of people throwing objects or things and not liking it but when it happens to you that's when you get upset which i don't know there's a history of throwing things in this group and you don't say anything but what happens to you you get upset and you have every right to be upset just like everyone else did when it happened to them we've all had things thrown at each other it comes for you one of these days first they throw a cocktail umbrella at larsa we say nothing then they throw an ice cube at adriana and we say nothing and then you know what the juice box comes at lisa and we said nothing you know and then the water came but now you're saying something about the water like i don't think so kiki's like my thing is me and gertie we were good and even at that event like i stood up for you as a friend which is i understand you probably think i did not do my best but as a friend in that moment that's what i would want a friend to do for me and we see footage of like kiki kind of like at that moment trying to like pull Gertie away and like calm her down and Kiki basically says that in the wake of that she actually got threats and people were saying that she was racist or something like that.

23:45And she says yeah I'm getting all sorts of threats and Gertie's like racist about what? And she says because I wasn't supporting you. And she says oh so now you're racist? And she said well that's what the whole internet was saying. I'm being tagged from your post from everything. And Andy's like wait it's my understanding that you said in the press that by her removing by her removing you she made you look like an angry black woman okay well that's not saying that she's a racist right right i'm gertie never said that i mean i can understand how they would say okay well everybody's coming at us online and calling us racist you know gertie said that's the audience doing that not gertie but i guess they're saying gertie is like in a detractive article in a detractive article gertie is quoted as saying because this is on they put this up and she's saying i'm being pulled physically when I haven't done anything, but you want to make it seem like I'm being held back because I'm about to swing like an angry black woman.

24:36Kiki, stop it. Let's not do that. So Gertie is also saying that. And so Kiki is like, like I'm getting tagged and people are threatening me and they're literally saying like, faffo, fuck around and find out. Alex is like, what's happening? Gertie is the second half of the season. We go to Spain and there was some kind of resolution and we're all getting along. And even you and Julia appear to be in a good place. And then the show comes out and then you went and do a press tour. And then this whole war starts on social media, you know, and it didn't even include me a star. And so then we see like more headlines about all this.

25:07Yeah. But also she's talking about stuff that happened on the show. I mean, what the hell? Like they all do it. They all talk about whatever storylines are going on the show. Like the fight is fresh. So I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I kind of get what they're saying here, but like they're basically, basically I, what I hear Alexia saying is we had a little fight. There was some water thrown. It wasn't that big of a deal. It happens all the time. Then you made up and then you act like you're offended again and let everybody call us racist. This is basically what she's saying, right? Which, okay, I can see that.

25:39But it's not Gertie's job to go out there and say, they're not racist. Nothing they did. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We all saw the show. I mean, the audience pretty overwhelmingly felt like it was not cool what you guys did and how you overreacted to Gertie putting text up on a screen but didn't give a shit that Julia just, like, attacked her in this thing. That's not cool. And it doesn't matter that you do it all the time because you all have something to say about it when it happens to you. It's not like it just goes by without anybody saying anything. So the audience saw it. So blame the audience.

26:08And there was something like even before we got to the text message thing that happened later at Gertia's event, we all clocked it when it happened. Right after the episode aired, we all clocked at this. There was an undertone of something feeling problematic about this because it wasn't just like the other like water throwing things were like little like whatever. but there was something about like being in like a wedding and like it was like julia was julia's basis for being angry at gertie felt so tenuous at best already and there was something about like she just like really soaked gertie at like in a context that just felt it just felt like more humiliating than the other things we saw like you cannot compare kiki throwing a juice box at lisa on that boat to that moment.

26:56Like that was not a humiliating moment, okay? Even if Lisa felt some sort of way about having an object being thrown at her, like, I'm sorry, this was just, you know, it was like all the loved ones were there, the husbands were there. It just was like a time when you sort of don't expect that. And it just was, it came off as really sort of like more hurtful than the other spills. It was also the lead up to it because the season started with Alexia being like, you know what, Gordy, you're just too much. You're too loud. You're just too loud. You need to stop being so loud. And Mary's still being like, yeah, you're just too much.

27:30You're just too loud. No one wants to be around that. So it had come after that. That's how the season opened with you guys being like, she's too much and everybody kind of trying to ice her out and saying she's too much and she's too loud and she's too energetic and she's too this and that. And then when Julia came after her at that wedding, it was literally out of nowhere. They were having a little argument about text and then she stands up and just, it was so over the top and nobody did anything and then took her side and that's why it's yeah weird you know it didn't i don't want to go as far as to say like racist it just no it felt icky and it felt like you should know better all of you agreed although what we find out later in this episode which i thought was fascinating was that there actually was a bit more of a reaction towards julia than what they actually had aired which is a little fucked up because it kind of like held a lot of these women out to dry you know they're like oh they didn't have any reaction but we saw that they actually did have some reaction but it still was not as big as the reaction later on in the season yeah now all of this said i do think that gertie you know she's so stubborn in her yeah she's like no no you know she's she's got the wins of the audience behind her as well so i think she's coming into this like i won this little she's a little hot anyway yeah she's a little The thing with when Gertie is angry, she like literally cannot hear input.

28:51So it is frustrating on these shows, especially at the reunion. Like the rule is you fight and then you make up, then you fight and then you make up and then you have a huge fight and it's entertaining. And then you have to forgive each other and stuff. And I don't necessarily blame Gertie for being like, no, you don't get to just come here and pretend you're sorry because social media got mad at you, which I think is what she's saying right now without saying it. But Alexi is like, oh, you know, I never would have done that after thinking about it. Like I'm really sad for Gertie now. Like, no, you're mad because the, like you're saying that because the audience is coming for you, you know?

29:23So I don't blame Gertie for not just immediately swallowing it and moving on. The fact is it was some bullshit. Yeah. So, so then Alexia is saying, Alexia is basically now like complaining that Gertie went to social media and like sort of attacked them on social media. She's like, you know, every single episode when this was happening, I mean, like, we, you know, like, I mean, we're all together. we don't think that it's right it's not right it's not right that you go on social media fan the flames you're fanning the flames and we see gertie's text and everything and gertie's like no no these were bad i don't i think that they're they're overreacting to stuff they're trying to accuse her of saying that they're racist and she never said that and i don't think she hinted at it either this thing with kiki was another black woman and she didn't say she was just saying like you should know better than to try and make me look like an angry black woman in front of all these people so gertie's like okay well show me then tell me exactly what you're talking about these tweets or whatever i did so we see one from her and it says they came to perform i came to inform they thought chaos was power well i just let uh lego do the heavy lifting gertie hashtag gertie i don't think that that was fanning the flames or being bad i think that's a normal they all get on social media yeah they all get on social media and say crazy things i mean larsa for crying out loud so gertie is like i wasn't saying this she did this because of this because create some sort of flame that's like okay well you're not aware of it no i'm asking you like what it is what did i put on social media just i would like to know and she's like well for example the one with like julia through the water she's like well i never posted that well you never acknowledged on your press that you were in a good place with julia's like well and he's like okay all right well maybe she was reacting to what was airing at the time alexia that's what it was gertie's like well i do appreciate that you saying that the press that you wish that you could have done more but because like you know what you did you did do you did do more and now we're going to play the footage of what happened after I got the water tossed.

31:14Not a towel, not a gritty. I'm going to, I'm going to do all security. Okay. Like let's, let's roll the footage. Let's roll the footage, which I love when housewives prompt the director to like package. Roll that beautiful bean footage, please. Um, so you didn't get me a towel. You didn't get me security, nothing. We're going to see that right now. And I like that. Larson's like, well, you didn't get me a towel two years ago. And I got to guess what I mean. You didn't tell me either when someone was throwing water on me. What I did is get you guys verbally then hazing me after that. So you did do a lot after.

31:47You hazed me. You hazed me. So then we see 11 minutes after the water tossed. And Alexi is going, well, I'm just saying, you know, like you put all your eggs in one basket. And how did that work out for you? And she's like, what? What are you talking about? And she's like, Larsa says, Nicole, because you're friends only with Nicole. And that's what we're saying. Like you're wondering like why we're not your friends now, but like you were only friends with Nicole and then Nicole's gone. You don't have like friends. Like, but I'm telling you and I'm telling you. So like I'm saying, I felt like you were a little bit disconnected with everybody in the group, which is why it's okay for you to get water thrown on your head.

32:20That's all. I, I, I, and she's like, yeah, I agree by the way. So like, this was like, they, they did like literally tear into her. So it's funny. Cause they, they do tear, we see them tear into Julia later, but I did forget that they also were like being really shitty to Gertie right afterwards. Yeah. So Andy's like, Gurney, what's your reaction to the equivocation of other people getting things thrown at them and not reacting? It's like, well, there's context behind that. And we all know that this is part of a bigger idea or concept. And Larsa's like, she never answers the question. Like, oh, my God, she literally did.

32:53But you're kind of a dumb. And Gurney had a good line here. I probably don't know what concept means. Yeah. Gurney, I like when Gurney said this. Well, you know what, Julia? She's a three-peat offender. Julia, of course. And the fact of the matter is that you've all tried it at Marisol, which Marisol forgets. You know, I didn't forget. I just, you didn't help me either. And you guys, by the way, no one helped me when she threw ice at me. By the way, remember that? No? Someone stopped her, didn't they? When she threw the ice bucket, someone came over and like, yeah. So someone helped you. And they couldn't really help you.

33:23They all have seats. You were all sitting down. Weren't they all sitting down like in a big circle in beach chairs or something? I mean, come on. and number two was at the mamacita's luncheon where for some reason she felt the need to break glassware and break a chair when Nicole had to pay for a replacement and then we see footage that we never saw before of Julia screaming like Marisol say yes did you say yes or no did you say yes stop stop stop did you say Marisol and she's banging a chair on the ground I was like why didn't we get to see that why didn't we get to see that why have they been holding Julia's crazy back and also how do people including me forget how fucking psycho Julia is.

34:01I mean, some of the clips they show it, I was like, oh my God, I forgot that Julia goes this crazy on people. Yeah. And then Gritty was like, and then number three is when she physically assaulted me and she finally landed her moment on TV. I was like, I like that. I like painting the narrative of Julia of like trying to have a big reality TV moment and like taking all these years. Yeah. Finally, she co-starred me. So she got picked up. That's what happened. Yeah. That's what happened. You're welcome. Well, why hasn't Julia spoken one word? She's like, yeah, well, I'm about to ask her. What made you throw the water that night?

34:37Oh, I understand that watching the footage brought you back horrible memories. And I'm very sorry. Again, I was out of character. I reacted. I overreacted. It was slightly tequila and healthy. But it is not excuse. There was no excuse for it. Nothing that I do is planned or really rehearsed. I am sorry. why do they keep saying that like that gets her off the hook when yeah because larza said it about her too like it's not like she planned it she's like yes i didn't plan it what does that think that she was accused of the plan because i think when she threw the water it felt like kind of awkward and clunky almost like she was planning to do that all along i think that people felt that at the time of the show it did seem like that it did seem like it was like i'm gonna be mad i'm gonna scream we're gonna have this huge fight and i'm gonna throw water it did feel like that but I don't think anybody said it here.

35:26I mean, I probably said it. But Gertie's like, wow, that's scary, Julia. She goes, well, this is how I am, scary. So? And so Adriana's like, except the defense you just got here. Well, it's been three times. You've done it three times. Let her finish, though. Like, let her finish, though. Let her finish, though. Like, she didn't panic. Go ahead, finish your speech. I am incredibly sorry. And I already said sorry to you, Gertie, and I would like to say it one more time because I mean it from not only my heart, but God's heart. And all I can say sincerely, I'm very, very sorry. Three times. Three times.

36:03Three. No excuse. Between you and I, it happened. It happened one time between one of us. Okay, it's just the scoreboard's really only one. Because it's brought around other people. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

36:23Okay, we've heard a bunch of fake stupid apologies. Let's talk about Gertie's celebration of life event. Dun, dun, dun. Ladies, the big issue that resonated with viewers was your outrage at Gertie showing the text versus your response to the water being thrown. Marisol, you are raising your knee? Go ahead. She's like, more. Yeah, you know what? I would like to say something because I took Julia to the bathroom to calm her down. And I told her we're mic'd, so you can roll the footage if you want. But I said, don't throw anything at anybody ever unless it's Adriana's face. So we see footage of Julia, like Marisol and Julia going to the bathroom at the wedding.

37:06And Julia's like, I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry. Oh, no, I'm literally going to cry. I'm going to cry. All right. Well, hey, just look. Don't throw things.

37:21i was very angry with julia and i was equally angry i just don't like it in public and there's a display it's humiliating you know neither of them were right to me i said that no no no no no i want to respond you know because the big difference between these two things like i'm happy that you said behind the scenes don't throw water but would have been great like hey ladies we need to have a discussion in front of me because that's the problem i never saw with me present but that's not true though like that's not true though so then we see another flashback to two minutes after the water toss they've left all this stuff out which yeah it's crazy so it's all this stuff that we haven't seen and kiki is now helping gertie clean water off and gertie and mary's still is like yeah i don't like throwing of stuff and lorza says yeah i don't like this like i feel like we can't like throw drinks like we can i feel like do that julia like she literally reprimands Julia like right in front of Gertie and Gertie goes well thank you Larsa thank you Larsa again this was not as big of a reaction as the other event but you know it was it was a reaction so Gertie's like well actions speak volume and you're in actions speak volume as well and they're like no Gertie but like you had the same situation last season with Larsa and Gertie's like well we're talking about this season no but like you're not going to tell me when like what I'm going to talk about, Gertie, because I'm talking about last season.

38:42And you sat here and we listened to you. And you need to respect us, too, because I'm going to say what I need to say, okay, because I'm a star. But what was the thing that she's saying, the situation with Larsa last year, the same situation with Larsa? I don't know, to be honest. Her situation with Larsa was just that Larsa blabbed about her cancer, right? Yes, she was blabbing about her cancer. That's what I thought, too. So Alexia is like, no, you need to let us talk. You know, we gave advice to Larsa that she should have had the conversation with you instead of making it about everybody else.

39:11Yeah, but like you never like answered your phone like and you didn't like answer your texts like, like I said, you like flowers I feel like and you like I didn't, you didn't like respond. She's behind closed doors, behind closed doors. And Andy's like, she's agreeing with you. And she's like, oh, well, you know what? But they're ready to public shame me. So they can't public apologize, but they can public shame. Which I get. I'm trying to get that. No one's public shaming you. Stay on earth, stay on earth. I love that. Stay on earth. what what did the text messages prove that you put up well the point was that after like multiple attempts of saying guys look it's not true look look look no one wanted to listen yeah but what did it prove it proved everything but they don't read andy they just don't read and adrian's like well just say that you were invited and didn't ask and didn't ask to go and like that's what the point was yeah she's just trying to help her because they're just asking her for simple clarification and that's what she should have said they're proving that i never begged to go on this cruise, Julie is crazy, right?

40:10So Gertie's like, wait, wait, I get to a point with people not listening. You feel unseen. And, you know, it feels like I don't matter and can't reprimand her in front of me because of this little click thing. And then, you know, you get to a point where it doesn't matter. And that was my breaking point. And I said, I'm done. I'm done. I'm doing it and I'm done. That's it. Texts are going on the screen. All right. Well, so this event, these events, they happen on the show. She's apologized to you maybe five times on camera. now. Where do you go from here? Well, I think that we need to come to a place right now presently, and I wish it would have been at the premiere party, where you say, you know what?

40:45Something big happened between me and Yordi, but I want to move us, see us move forward. Okay, so what about tonight, though? I'm trying to set this up for a hug, an apology, something like that, so come on, you can do it. Well, where are you today, Julia? She said, where am I? I'm right in front of you. I'm girl. A girl. standing in front of God in bookstore wondering why Julia Roberts is on bus. Is she a new film? I love her. Okay, get to the point. Just say sorry. I'm so sorry. Okay, well, why didn't you call me before Watch What Happens Live apology? Why didn't you call me? You haven't called me for anything.

41:23Well, I did not call you. My children were under attack. You could have like a good friend you are. You could have volunteered and say something to stop spreading this hate. my children my boys oh stop with you dragging your boys on here as props that's crazy you could have still called her and worked this out that's nuts but i had no idea the public was attacking your your your children no not the public was martina making them up at four in the morning make them play tennis every single morning they're under attack them with balls saying run faster loser run faster so she says uh she went online she accuses gertie of going online and discussed publicly shaming us for changing the boy's name referring to them like grown children and we see the tweet from gertie and it says i've never judged martina for anything she has done in the public eye let alone never questioned them for renaming their adopted grown kids so then julia is saying that they can what was this why was this bad i don't i don't know i have to see what it was a reply to because i i've never judged martina for anything in the public eye so that means that it was based on something somebody had said about martina or something or martina must have said something let alone never question them for renaming their adopted grown kids saying they're so she's just saying i'm not she's saying i'm not judging them but i guess are saying that is judging them by bringing it up in a tweet very confused sure um but basically julia says they spoke to child psychologists and it was like okay and and he's like okay well you post about the kids for their security which i mean she's putting them on tv so i don't know that that really that was our personal choice for them and their security which i mean you're putting them on tv so guys kids are off limits like kids are off limits okay you don't ever talk about the kids you just wait for them to turn 18 and then you start dating them and he's like okay well so here we are here we are okay where do you go with this gurney well i'm right here okay i didn't start this fight i never knew about this fight can you at least admit that it was not about the cruise at all no uh it was not about the cruise yes because of the cruise i think you saw an opportunity but you just publicly humiliated me with text messages to prove that you were not asking to go on cruise but it's not about the clues.

43:45I don't, yes, yes. Why can't you follow along? Okay, I'm just going to say the only opportunity I'm seeing is how to move forward with you because how you and I are facing each other after eight months and that is the only goal and I am now apologizing for you. What is this? Nine times? Nine times apologizing? By the way, I hate when she keeps announcing the number of times she's apologized because that totally drains the sincerity out of it. If you're keeping tabs on how many times you've apologized, yes, you may have done it many times but if you sincerely really want to apologize and move on.

44:15You're not going to throw it in the other person's face. How many times you've apologized? Just say, I just keep saying like, I really, I truly, truly, truly want to move on with you. Well, it's also annoying because Andy started it by saying she apologized five times. So now every time she apologized, she goes, now it's a six time, right? Andy, now it's a six time, right? Andy, can we get counter up? And she's doing this whole thing where she's got her eyes half closed. Like she's just so, she's about to fall into a, just a depression hole. And she's like, my only girl, which aim, desire that I have is to go down on my knees to beg for your forgiveness.

44:52Like, oh, okay, okay. No one's asking for that. And Gertie's like, no, no, you called me psychopath scary. You said at Lisa's party, she's fake. And she goes, but I apologize 10 times now. But those things matter because I'm not fake and I've been nothing but a good friend to you. And so when we're there eight months and you have nothing bad, there's not one text message from you in eight months. you know like i can't believe it i can't believe it it's like i'm sorry what do i do to make it better how about not just apologize for shit when you're on tv how about like be a real life fucking decent person i think is her point you know her point is like why do i have to come on here and forgive all these people after they've been tortured online when not one of them has made a real life effort to be nice you know they're bitches to me all year it's like two years in a row with Julia working behind my back and being an evil asshole to me.

45:41And now all of a sudden I have to forgive her cause she's crying on TV and I have to make a public show. So people don't go bully her children, which by the way, stop bullying her children. If anybody's doing that, that's fucking psycho. But yeah, you know, obviously, but I don't think Gertie needs to like fold either. I don't believe one thing Julia says at this point. Yeah. She's like, well, the cruise, the cruise, but the cruise was two years ago. Well, she needs to admit that the cruise was a big deal. we're not gonna learn anything i'm like weren't you just saying we have to admit this isn't about the cruise this is the thing why it's also tough with gertie because she's like a moving target and like you it's like wait she was saying like it's not about the cruise but now it is about the cruise it's like it's a little like i would kind of go a little nuts trying to like reason with her i think you just have to like once she's like once she's pissed off and once she's activated you just kind of can't like you just you can't like really expect much you just have to wait for her to be calmed down and then you can have those things well i'm not defending julia i'm just saying that gertie is also like really like she just gets she gets into a mode and it's like you can't get through i have to say i get it because i feel like they're gaslighting her they keep acting like what but gertie i said i'm sorry but you're not saying what you apologize what you're sorry for you haven't admitted that the cruise thing was bullshit that you did all this stuff behind her back.

47:00Gertie's not like verbalizing. She's just saying like, I'm right, I'm right, I'm right, which I think is failing her. But she's not verbalizing what the real problems are. And I think it's making her crazy that this lady is just sitting there saying, but I said I'm sorry. And it's like, but you're not saying you're sorry. You didn't say anything about the cruise, why you were wrong about that, that you were lying behind my back and going to these ladies that you know don't like me and talking all this shit to them to get on their good side when none of this stuff even happened. I never begged you to go on a cruise.

47:27I never did all this shit so I can see why she's kind of going crazy you know well it makes sense why she's going crazy but I wish she if that's the reason why what you were saying I wish she would that's the thing she's not like verbal tools to sort of say it yeah she's like assuming like you know she wants them to say like when you're wrong you want the other person to say I'm sorry and this is why I'm sorry you know what I mean and they're not going to give her that but as far as the cruise being two years ago Julie it's like the cruise was two years ago who cares but it was a year later that you were making it a storyline.

47:58It was not, it shouldn't have been a big deal then either, you know. It's crazy making. So Andy's like, well, it's clear you guys aren't going to resolve this tonight, so it's complicated, it's deep, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, what do you want to do, bully her? She's apologized 10 times, like, stop bullying her. It's like, oh my god. Okay, thanks, Larsa. So then Adriana's like, Garrity, you're taking the bait. You have to say about the lies, about the facts of the cruise you just have to say it right it's not about the details of the cruise i'm like but it is gertie i also feel like sometimes gertie is not honest with herself like it is about that that's why she put up the text messages in the first place and it's okay that it's about that you should be pissed because you were treated like shit on that cruise and then julia made it sound like you were a hanger on and being like a diva like it is about that and as well as other things yeah i think adriana was actually giving her good advice here she's like you need to just specify why you're mad and she's like please i promise you they already said they don't want to talk about the details so she goes okay well then i'm gonna go too like if everybody's gonna get up i'm gonna go pp too because now they're this is all kind of backstage stuff so gertie's like listen adriana you gotta get a hold of yourself she's but i'm just trying to help you and she's like no no it's not about the details nobody cares about the cruise okay we did good we did good i promise you now you're getting too heated she's like i'm not heated i know it's just like gertie's saying that so now they come back to the set and lisa's like i just want you guys to make up that song well there's no band-aids and it's because we've got to talk about the issue if we can't do that then we won't do that and then stephanie's like oh my god the sofa's green where i was sitting isn't that outrageous i am such an outrageous housewife there's an iconic moment right we're gonna remember this for the next 10 years the green sofa so show my group oh miss green careful on that plane now you hear oh she's like not getting like on that plane like with that outfit like There's no way.

49:46So she's going to be leaving literally right after this. Going to work, Andy. I've never multitasked so much in my life. Those condos don't show themselves. The reunion's going to be done at 9 p.m. She does like condo advertising. I don't know what this girl is trying to pull, but it's hilarious when she's like, oh my God, I'm such a boss, babe. I've got to go. I've got to go. This is crazy. Like, I've got so many things to do today for my internet ads for the condo. This season, we met a new housewife who made clear from the ghetto that she's a mighty mouse that brings home plenty of cheddar.

50:26But some thought that this no-nonsense businesswoman was a little too plain-spoken. Emphasis on plain. It's wordplay, Larsa. I know you were confused. Could someone spell out the two words for her and explain to Larsa? So, Stephanie, we got a lot of comments about you flaunting your wealth. Brantlin on Twitter says, why is my name Brantlin? It's a stupid name. Okay. Stephanie seems to be leading with her wealth. And Leva from Southern Charm says, Stephanie is doing the most. Every chance she gets, she's talking about her money. Well, let me explain. Okay. When a football player wins the Super Bowl, they wear a Super Bowl ring.

51:07And they walk around and they show the Super Bowl ring. So it's kind of like, you know, I've won the old man ball Super Bowl. Okay. I've got the biggest and the oldest old man balls. I literally fly on them, Andy. I won. It's literally like if Taylor Swift gets Jason Kelsey, I got Joe Montana, basically current era Joe Montana. It's like I literally won so much. So she says that she's like really proud. And he's like, well, you really came in so confidently. I'm curious, what did you learn about yourself watching the show back? Well, for sure, I learned that my tone is something that comes across so harsh, when it's not what I truly mean.

51:48But listen, Andy, I'm working in a predominantly male-dominated world, and you're not going to get very far in life in that industry being the soft-spoken, quiet one. Okay, those internet ads do not sell themselves. Sometimes you just got to say, I want 500 CPM, and they just have to listen to you. But you know what? My heart is pure, and I love deep. So I just need to express that. Okay. Okla from Homo says, would you ever consider hiring the ladies of Shoma or the ladies at Shoma? And she's like, I learned with my sisters that women are bitches, so I will never hire another woman in this male-dominated.

52:27No, she doesn't say that. She's like, no, I'm not going to hire a real fucking asshole. Are you crazy? Are you nuts? So then he's like asking, oh, Marisol Alexia, you called her bossy. What kind of boss do you think she would be? Oh, demanding one, but that's a good thing, huh? Yeah. So then Andy's asking about the rumor that she was hired by his ex-wife to be her assistant. She's like, oh my God, that's gotten so much traction, just like the runway under my private plane. Like so many podcasts, like never met. Okay, first of all, I never met his ex-wife, never worked for her, never her assistant.

53:04They were separated for eight years before anything even happened. Okay. Well, Intelli from Gent says, you didn't meet Masood at a basketball game. You were hired by his ex-wife to be her assistant. Oh, my God. Yeah. That is not true, Andy. That is absolutely. I haven't even met the woman. I haven't even met her. And Adriana goes, until recently when we were having lunch and we went to lunch and all of the sudden she froze. And she goes, oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's Masood's wife. She goes, ex-wife. I was like, I don't want her to yell at me about the fact that I basically tore up her entire swimming pool and moved a little bit farther down the yard.

53:44Oh, my God. That would be so awkward. Yeah. So Charlotte from the web says, Stephanie, I've had trouble with my sisters. Have you made progress with either of them? She goes, listen, I'm no piece of cake. I also don't eat pieces of cake. My sisters do, which is why they're hideous. and you know i've tried with them but you know it's like we speak different languages mine has dollar signs there's have you know ious so you understand andy they're poor yeah and i've learned so much by speaking to alexia and all the girls have taught me a lot actually and i've tried and there's like not a lot of progress but i have emailed because i like learned how to do that and like you know i'm like really hoping that they watch this show because i feel like they'll be able to see that like i really truly care but they'll also see like, look, she has problems with all her friends.

54:31So it's like, they'll see I'm an asshole, but an asshole to everyone. They're not just like on the receiving end of like targeted asshole behavior. I think that's really important. Yeah, like she's the problem, Andy. That's what she's like saying like. Yeah, that gives some perspective to say it's not just them. That's such a, if that winds up being the conciliatory tone that they need, it's like, no, I want you to know you guys think I'm targeting you. I'm an asshole to everyone. That's it. Don't you want to, don't you want to let this asshole to everyone back into your life? This person who can't get along with a single person in her own life.

55:06Cause she's too much of a douchebag herself. Don't you want her back in your life? It's not against you personally. That shit was golden. She's so unselfaware. That was one of my favorite, like mental workarounds for why like someone should like resolve their issues. Like, no, you should get along with me because I'm actually terrible to so many different people. I think it's actually really important. All right, Lisa, I have a very important question. When Jody referred to AC, was he talking about me?

55:40Does he have any AC, by the way? I was going to say, it's kind of an odd parallel to make, but thinking back to the Kathy Griffin allegations from years ago. Yeah, that's true. So Lisa's like, oh my God, he was talking about AC means air conditioning. All right. Yeah, we know. Well, everyone knows that Lisa Hoxie lives in Lisa land. Lisa World. Lisa World. That's my website, Andy. Okay. Trying to do an intro here. Okay. We wrote it like that for a reason. Okay. And by the way, your website is Lisa World. Okay. Well, her behavior raised a few eyebrows and more than a few red flags. Lisa's already lost.

56:22It's a reference to the party you were at. Remember the party? Nope. Okay. So he asked, has she listened to what Jodi said about controlling the chaos? She goes, yeah, I got a therapist. And like, it's good because like it shows me about time management, you know, because like that really opened my eyes. I don't want people waiting on me. Okay. But that took years. She goes, yeah, but you know what? I have a problem. I don't calculate time, but I'm working on it and I take full accountability for that. Oh, yeah. She takes accountability. That's great. That's really wonderful how she does that.

56:54Okay.

56:59this show cracks me up just how the ladies all have something to say on each other's things and did you notice at one point no one shuts up and i noticed at one point that they turn off their mics on this one because on the other ones they never turn off their mic you hear every little thing they whisper but in this one andy will be asking a question and you literally hear people like talking at full voice in the background you do just had to turn off their mics. They've just stopped trying to control it. Speaking of controlled chaos. It's literally like filming a reunion in a, like a food hall.

57:30It's nothing but background voices. It's like when we do those bonus episodes in the food court or the, you know, an airplane or like an, uh, what am I saying? An airport or whatever.

57:46So, um, well, Alexia's nurses party, that was a rough night for you, right? She's like, Oh, she's like, yeah, I was late. So I had the target on my back from the gecko. Okay, well, you were not only late, you were defiant about it. I wonder if you had fallen on your sword a little bit. Yeah, well, why would I fall on a sword? That's stupid. You'd die. Okay, well, Stephanie's like, Andy, even if she would have walked in and said, sorry, done, whatever, I still would have been livid because that's who I am. I'm like, hilarious. Will you tell my sisters? I'm like so awful to people. That would help a lot.

58:16Thanks.

58:19so she finalized her divorce how was the co-parenting um martina recently said on twitter that surrogacy is wrong and sometimes you can't have it all and i wonder because both logan and l are born via surrogacy so what's your reaction she's like i was shocked i couldn't believe it at first i had to ask jody what all those letters meant and when he said it was surrogacy i was like is this a joke i'm surprised that she didn't even retract that oh she took the comment down we had numerous discussions about it and i disagree with her 100 with that and i got her to agree with this surrogacy is only wrong for trans people so take the olive branch we also there was also a moment where uh lisa was talking about like you know like is she gonna get engaged and she's like, well, everyone, big news.

59:13And she puts up her hands like, look at the ring. And they're like, oh, oh my God, wait. Is there a ring? She's like, no. But why did you hold up your hands? I was manifesting. It's like, you can't do that, Lisa. You can't hold up your hands like you're engaged. Oh, oh, sorry. That's the goal, Andy. That's the goal, okay? That's the goal. All right, well, Julia, by the way, obviously, we got to see you ask Derek and to be the boy's godfather in Marbella. Well, most of us got to see it because two of you didn't go. Anyway, you asked an old queen to be a godfather. Did you and Martina ever ask anyone to be the godmother?

59:57No. And was Adriana ever in contention to be the godmother? No. Wow. That is like the deepest dagger in my heart. That is the deepest dagger. And Gertie's like, didn't she write two character letters for you? She goes, exactly, because when they were trying and needed a home study, someone to vouch for them. And I did it not once, but twice. And I recorded it with piano behind it. And I asked you to be the godmother of Bosky. So why could... Adriana, you're doing so well. She was doing so well. She's like, that is so cool. I was there for you. I wrote letters for you. I asked you to be the godmother to my tiny little horny dog.

1:00:37So unserious. Julia was like, that's a little bit different. That is her baby. He's my baby. I love my dog. I love my dog. I love my dog. When Julia and Adriana first met, they were so upset with each other, they actually got friend games. Which we all saw it coming back then. But now the honeymoon's over. So we see some clips of them starting to sour, their friendship starting to sour. And then we come back to the present and Andy says, well, it seems like Mary saw an Alexia's friendship with Julia was the catalyst for the division in your friendship. Would you think that's fair? And Julia's like, Andy, can I say something to give some clarity?

1:01:23Well, he's asking me a question. He's asking me a question. Yeah, he asked her a question. Clarity, clarity, clarity. Hold on, hold on. I did ask her. I did ask her. Well, I feel like when she wanted to be friends with Alexia, I was fine with it. And Alexia wasn't instigating. But when Marisol got in the picture, Julia transformed herself. And she took a dive on the dark side. I didn't even know who she was. So, yes, there's something underneath it. Oh, wow. Blame me for everything. What am I? Just a lady with old knees who can't eat pasta for dinner and has to hang out with Steve every year and get married again.

1:01:58Why don't you take responsibility for your own behavior once, Adriana? Oh, maybe enabling her to bring her true self out. And, okay, so Julia finally gets to talk. And she's like, okay.

1:02:13I would like to say something that would bring clarity, hopefully, on why we are where we are with Adriana where we are. In the Hamptons, Adriana and I slept together. and everyone's like in the same bed right you shared a bed no we slept together lesbian tuna tuna you know what I'm saying I love that they show next week and Adriana's going I didn't season anybody this is what you do you seduce people so they bang so do you think it was just that one time or did they have like an affair I don't know I think we're going to find out but apparently they even do it I know it looks I read rumors that this is what it was going to be and I didn't believe it and that was actually it but doesn't that even make it worse on Julia's part like you slept with somebody and then you just ghosted them that's not cool it makes it complicated well we're going to find out next week it's a good cliffhanger for us thank you everyone for being here we hope you have a wonderful weekend And we're back on Monday with Potomac.

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