#3057 RHOSLC S608 Part 2: Below Deck Thrown Under

0:21Hello and welcome to Watch What Crap Ends, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about this is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap. So Meredith is like, well, you know, this is very Lucy Lucy Applejuice. And it's true. She's like, they're so worried about who planted a story, but they don't care about what Bronwyn did. You know, she's like, if Lisa did this, it's horrible. But, you know, correlation does not equal causation. And then she's like, smiles all self-satisfied.

0:52Now it's lawyer speak. okay wiggy wiggy party till you drop that was dj speak there's only so many coincidences in life for instance can you coincidentally be both a fashion icon and also a tremendous dj yes obviously that coincidentally can happen but like you know maybe this is a coincidence but you know what we all just want to move on we all want to move forward and we want this to end and we don't want to be living in this behavior and we've all made mistakes in our friendships and we've all owned up to big things we've all fed toddlers and we've all helped them with that thing where you stack the rings on top of each other and put the small ring on the top of the big ring on the bottom we've all done that and it's my way of saying ladies we have to come up with a better argument for today's episode so now angie is still sick and they're checking on her and mary's staying with her and uh everybody's getting ready for dinner and then Heather is like, okay, everybody, welcome to dinner.

1:53You might notice that there are eight of us on this trip and only six place settings. That's because someone has been murdered. So today we're going to try and figure out as a sisterhood how Lisa did it, with what weapon she used, and in what room she did it in. Welcome to Lisa Clue. You're accusing me? No, no one's accusing me. We're just saying it would be devastating if you were the murderer and we don't have any other thoughts on if anyone else was the murderer because you're really the only one we could see doing it but that's not an accusation so mary is in the room keeping angie company which is really sweet so she's going to have her dinner with them and everybody else has served food and heather's like well again i feel sad that we're missing angie and mary's commentary what a wacky episode that would have made and britney's like i don't Miss Mary's commentary.

2:41They're like, geez, Brittany. Oh, dear, Brittany, we have a rule. You can only talk shit if they're right in front of you, which is a rule we've all broken. Okay. And Brittany goes, well, I'm the only one who says what I feel to people's faces. I'm the only one. So now Bronwyn, this pisses off Bronwyn, her roommate, and goes, oh, really? What about the things that are not being said to people's faces? Because there's other people at this table that you're mad at, that you're not saying something about. Let's go to the flashback of us shopping in like a vintage store. Let's go to that part where I was pretending to be your friend five minutes so I could get a bunch of ammunition to use against you, which I'm going to do right now.

3:20So we go back to the store and Brittany is like, well, yeah, I feel like Lisa is just trying too hard to big sister me and I don't need that. I can fight my own battles. Oh, OK. So big sistering, you got it. OK. And what's going on with you and Meredith? What's the problem there? Hold on. Let me just get my little notepad while you try on that dress. OK, go ahead. Go ahead. If you'd like to use a certain, like a real standout word that might be a trigger for Meredith, that'd be great. Okay. Okay. Well, I haven't seen Meredith yet without her having a seizure of some sort. I just don't know why Meredith goes from zero to 100 in.02 seconds.

3:54It's almost like it's not even real. Oh, uh-huh. Well, I feel like Meredith has been supportive of you. No, no, no, no. No, no, she hasn't. Seizure. So, Bronwyn, we come back and Bronwyn's like, well, okay. Well, she said, you big sister her, you're in her business and she doesn't want your advice and it's bullshit, which she didn't say. And she said that you pretend to have seizures, which she also didn't say. Did not say that. And that you slur your words, which she didn't say. And she said you go from zero to 100 over nothing and she thinks it's an act and she doesn't believe anything that comes out of your mouth, which she didn't say.

4:29So pretend to have seizures. Pretend to have seizures. I've never had a seizure in my life. But what's a horrible thing to say about somebody, there are people who do have seizures and they are very serious. And one of which was my child. So I find that to be despicable. How dare you bring up my child having seizures? How dare you? Stop saying seizure. Stop saying seizure. But she has a seizure. Look, she's having a seizure right now. Stop saying it. It's a child thing. But she's having a seizure. She's having a seizure. oh i've had enough of this so she takes a picture just pours it on britney again the third picture on britney you can stomp you can stomp are you kidding me are you serious this is and then so she tries to get up and throw her water at meredith but meredith blocks it with her own water so it's like water cascading and so it goes all over bronwyn and bronwyn's like nope nope you deserve it brahman you started this and you lied like 10 times so heather's probably by the way is wearing this crazy outfit like with these tall like asymmetrical shoulder pads that look like you know like like machu picchu or something like that but now it's all wet so everything's kind of like damp and like rearranged improperly so she's wearing some weird funeral dress like some black dress with some flowers on she looks crazy so yeah she gets water thrown all over her And so Heather's like, oh, wait, where am I?

6:03Heather says something. Oh, she's like, Meredith, turn up your hearing aids. She did not say Jared that time. That's the cue for pouring water from Britney. It's hilarious, right? So now we're making fun of hearing aids. You know, Meredith is going to hear that and be really pissed off. Now we're making fun of my disability. Britney, I've had enough of your nonsense. Well, I'm sick of Meredith treating me like shit. and no one's even batting an eye. I mean, no one even cares. Well, to say that someone has seizures, I mean, I don't think that's funny. I think it's disgraceful and I think it is this awesome.

6:41See, this is what I'm talking about. Look at the seizures she's having. Just trying to say disgraceful. Wow. You want to talk about the husbands? So Bernice says, I think she dislikes me so much because I think I'm the only one that isn't afraid of her. She's had this kind of like, oh, look, it's me. it's meredith marx oh i'm meredith marx but no one else will tell her no one else would be like meredith you're batshit crazy and this isn't normal oh she's like you go from zero to 100 in 0.2 seconds like how is it one second you're nice to me in the next second you're like freaking out because you just had bronwyn totally turn on you see bronwyn's very good you know she's very good at this like bronwyn just did all of this but now it's gonna leave britney and meredith fighting instead of anybody coming after Bronwyn.

7:26And also instead of Brittany coming after Bronwyn too. Like she's, she's pretty good at it. I have to hand it to her. So then in bed, Mary's eating and Angie's sleeping. It's like smells crunchy. So now back to the girls arguing. So Brittany's like, I mean, no one does that. No one goes from zero to 100 in 0.02 seconds. I'm like this cast. Anyone does it. Okay. Why you lie incessantly, always lying. and then we see a montage of like Britney and Meredith's greatest hits over the past, you know, last season. Yeah, saying she heard Meredith crying and throwing up in the middle of the night and then recording them on the sprint.

8:03You recorded us, clip of her recording. You've done really nasty things on the RV trip telling Whitney her business is getting dragged on social media. Why don't you just disengage, Meredith? Just disengage because I would be more than happy to disengage with you for the rest of all time, okay? Ladies, sisters, everyone at this table, we all need to own things in order to move on. And to show you that I am going to come for Lisa Barlow, but then pretend like I'm actually still her friend because that's what you do when you own things. So let's own this. Let's have an open conversation. This is not a pylon.

8:44Again, let me just point out that we are owning this. So this is not a pylon and I'm definitely owning that this is not a pylon. So let's pile on. We are adult women. We are privileged women. We are a sisterhood. And we are living our best fucking lives. Except for Lisa, whose life is fake. Well, what's the pile on? I said I'm disengaging. And you got her telling me I'm wrong. And Bronwyn's supporting me. And Lisa's supporting me. And there is no gang up. I'm perfectly happy. Everything's fine over here. I'm happy as a clam. I'm disengaged. Actually, this was really funny. Because Meredith, like, we're making it sound like Meredith was having this huge fit.

9:19And she kind of was, but it was very calm for Meredith. She was like still eating. It's like, oh, you are disgusting. Oh, I really enjoy the shrimp. Yeah, it was like she was like back to her normal self again. This is like, you know, this is the equivalent of Meredith doing that thing where they're fighting at a dinner table outside. And then she goes inside to be like, I'm leaving this dinner. And then she comes back out again, like wrapped in a comforter. And she's like, all right, I'm ready for the next one. Yeah. Or it's like when you go see Beyonce and she's giving it her all. And then she gets to that section where it's like just singing all of her greatest hits.

9:51And so it goes from her like crying on the floor to being like, all the single ladies, all the single ladies, all the single ladies, all the single ladies. Get me bodied, get me bodied, get me bodied. And then she gets back to the real stuff and she's crying again on the floor.

10:07So Heather's like, OK, we're going to talk. We all need to own things. So what else do we need to own at this table? Does anyone need to own anything? anyone at all maybe want to own things about leaking things to the media is anyone um i'm going to own the fact that i have no idea who i'm talking about right now i don't know if anyone wants to volunteer i'm definitely owning this that this is not a planned attack and she and whitney look at each other and then they look at meredith and meredith is just eating she's like calmed down from her fight now and whitney goes well i think you need to own something and meredith and she goes what and she's like yeah remember the little conversation we had on our bed earlier remember and Meredith just goes oh okay yes well then you guys should talk about that you should knowing exactly what they're doing exactly because that was so clunky they hatched this little plan and then they want Meredith to be the one to go against Lisa they're trying to like produce this fight right and they're trying to like have a rift between those friends and Meredith's like no you You brought me in and you like floated ideas by me.

11:10But I know I in no way said I'm going to co-sign on this revolution against Lisa. If you guys want to go against Lisa, have at it. But I already went through this and it was an annoying two years of my life. And it's really highlighting what I've been saying about Heather, how Heather is pretending to Lisa's face like, oh, my God, look how much I'm sticking up for you. Because in Heather's mind, she can say, well, remember the lunch at the lunch? I was the one coming for Bronwyn. I'm the one that was coming for Bronwyn that whole time and asking her questions like I was sticking up for you. I totally had your back.

11:38And then she would have had this dinner where Meredith came for Lisa. So Heather still would have looked like a good friend. But now it's blowing up, blowing up in her face. So she's like, well, I was trying and she even admits it. She's like, well, I was trying to make grounds with Lisa and I thought it would go over better if Meredith was with me. But now it just feels like leaving me high and dry. Heather, it's your plan. She's not leaving you high and dry. She's just letting you do your own show. So good luck. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So Heather goes, I don't care about anyone outside of the people seated at this table.

12:09I don't care about that. Any of that whatsoever. Especially my daughters. I'm just gonna be honest with you. I think that you are the source of all the dirt, even though it was me who actually found out the dirt about Monica. But I think you are the source of all the other dirt. Wait, why are you guys even questioning me? Why are you questioning me? Because we feel like you always know the information before, before everybody. I'm sorry but this information was out last season yeah because you just questioned me even though she thought you were questioning me you just questioned me well apparently whenever Europe said something gets leaked and that was the commentary from these two oh my gosh this is so dumb I hope you have my back Meredith I hope you have my back I said I hope it's not true and I didn't think it was true No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

13:04We don't have to hope it's not true. It's not true. It's not fucking true. Oh. And Meredith does her like just opening her mouth like a fish on land where she's like. That's all I need. It's not the source of anything. People tell me stuff and I'm all of a sudden responsible. I got my thoughts. You know everything. Well, they think you're the one who has fed everything to the logs. Yeah. You are the grand poobah. Oh, yeah. I'm the motherfucking Don of Salt Lake City, I guess, because this is fucking weird. This is weird. Okay. I've never dug up dirt on any of these motherfucking patches. And I'm so sick of being accused of this.

13:44I'm so sick of that. People tell me stuff. Okay. I'm at fucking Harmon's and I hear stuff. I hear shit. I also go to like the Angie Harmon Club, which is a really cool club because like I'm friends with Angie Harmon also. And I still hear stuff there too. And I go get like a Diet Coke and I hear stuff. I go to Wendy's and I hear stuff. I can't take this anymore, you guys. Shut the fuck up about me. I don't do anything. Don't come near me. Don't come fucking near me. And Whitney does that thing where she stands up and she starts coming at her. And she's like, don't come near me. Do not come near me, Whitney.

14:13Yeah, but I'm coming near you. What are you going to do about it? Sit your little butt down, okay? You know what? I'm leaving if you come near me. I'm leaving. Downstairs, Angie and Mary just sitting on the bed watching TV. And you just hear the muffled voices. And Mary's like, wait. I feel like I hear Whitney and Lisa. So Lisa's like, you guys have no one to beat up on if I'm not here. That's it. It's like, and when he's like, you're not our punching bag. You're just a bag that we like to punch, but not technically a punching bag. No one's accusing you. And Heather's doing the gaslighting thing where she's like, are you fucking kidding me, Lisa?

14:48You think we're beating up on you right now? We are being your friends. Heather really has some nerve trying to pull this angle. And in fact, it's so ballsy. I almost applaud her because the fact that she can sit there and tell Lisa Barlow, we think you're digging up dirt on all of us. We think you're leaking stuff to the press. This is like a cardinal sin in the world of the housewives. But we're not beating up on you. We're actually being a friend right now. Like, what? That's crazy. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

15:24So Lisa takes her face and she goes, you know everything I know. and Lisa Whitney's still going you're not a punching bag. She'll sit down Whitney just sit down. You you sit down then sit down and talk to me like a friend would. I like this when Lisa said you know everything I know because it means that Lisa and Heather have been sitting there talking about it together and now Heather's making it sound like it was all Lisa and Lisa's the only person who's been doing this. So now you call me Jen Shaw. You're lucky I haven't talked to any of you. Yeah, you know what? I'm so fucking sick of that.

16:00I'm sick of it. Oh, fuck off with that, Lisa. She goes, no, you fuck off with that. Yeah, I've been a very good friend to you, Lisa. Please name a time when you have been a good friend to Lisa. I've never fucking seen it. I've never seen it. Heather is such a good gaslighter, and she does it through this whole episode. She just keeps pounding it in. Guys, I'm just a good friend to Lisa. I'm always a good friend to Lisa. And then I go read comments. Oh, my God. Heather's been such a good friend to Lisa. It's nice to see her finally stand up to Lisa. She's been doing the same thing since season one.

16:29If you don't defend me, oh my God, you better say I'm fucking sorry right now. Cause I defended you. You know what? Don't be fucking afraid of her. She's throwing her weight around like right now. Like fuck you, Lisa Barlow. I've been a good fucking friend to you for so, for no other fucking reason. The fact that we have a fucking history, Lisa Barlow. Yeah. What are you even talking about right now? Cause I'm honestly like, I don't think it's so funny that Heather is trying to act like she's being a really good friend right now. She's saying that like, by being this brutal honesty that she is having, this is the evidence of being a good friend.

16:59But like, but meanwhile, Heather is the one whose definition of being a good friend has been to ride or die. You cover things up for your friends. But now all of a sudden the definition has changed for her. I just think it's hilarious that she's doing this. And she's like, and now you're going to fucking throw a fit right now. You're going to, are you kidding me? You're going to throw a fit. It's Lisa Barlow and you're accusing her of leaking everything to the media. And then you're surprised that Lisa Barlow is going to have a fit. She would have a fit over things that are a fraction of as inflammatory as this.

17:29And she's like, just own it, Lisa. She goes, own what? She goes, you're the source of all the dirt. She goes, fuck that. I'm not owning that. I'm not the source of any fucking dirt. And don't you ever put that on me ever again. Don't you ever do it again. So now they're trying to serve dinner. And Jason comes out, which is wow. And they're all standing around, like clearly trying. And Lisa actually moves back to take her plate. but they won't serve it because they're still yelling. Like, you guys, you're not the show here. Just serve. This is dinner theater. Serve the fucking food and leave. This isn't about you.

18:01Serve it. So this goes back and forth for a long time. Like, you know all the dirt. You know all the dirt. I don't know any dirt. I don't know any dirt. You know all the dirt. You know everything. I'll say it. Grand larceny theft. Well, it's all over the internet. So that part made me crack up because whether or not Lisa leaked these things, Lisa defending everything, and be like, well, it's all over the internet. Like if I talk about it, it's all over the internet. It's like, that was the exact inverse of what happened earlier this season when they all sat around and Lisa put up the poster board of like the accusations and Bronwyn was saying, hey, Lisa, I wasn't like digging things up.

18:40It was in the newspaper. I read it and I was curious. It was on the internet basically. And Lisa's like, no, you dug it up. And now when the shoe's on the other foot, Lisa's like, it was on the internet. It was on the internet. It wasn't my fault. I wasn't digging anything up. So I just think it's so funny how convenient, like how everyone is so hypocritical on this show at all times. Yeah, they literally all are. Yeah, because she's being a hypocrite. And so were they by bringing up stuff from the Internet after they were like, how dare you? How dare you? So she's like, why am I responsible for what's on the Internet?

19:09What are you going to blame me for two girls and a cop, too? So then Jason goes down to visit, check in on Angie because Angie's still puking her face off. So he like adds some like warm blankets or something. oh this is worth it the highlight of the night what is going on up there and he's like well it's a lot a lot is happening i was like a ghost up there they didn't even see me yeah so then back at dinner lisa's like what do i need to say that she goes you don't need to do anything lisa but i'm gonna be honest with you that i think you're the source of the dirt okay well then you know what i just can't be your friend she's are you kidding me you can't be my friend because I'm accusing you of being a horrible person.

19:48I know. I got accused last year of leaking stuff that I didn't leak. And I actually defended you, Whitney. And I felt bad for you. And I really, I felt like really bad for you. Like what? Like if, what if you're the leak? Like, what if you're the leak? What if you're the leak? It's like not fucking me. It's not me. Yeah. So she's like, what about you? What if you're the leak? What if you're the leak? And Heather's like, I would own it. If I were the leak, I would own it. Oh yeah. I love how this got spun. It got spun. It's not spun. You're fucking spinning it, you moron. You're the one spinning it.

20:17No, no, I don't do spin class. I don't exercise. I did not know what you're accusing me of doing. And I just don't have anything more to say to you. She's also, you know, this is what's making me crazy. Like, I still don't know. Maybe Lisa is the one who found it. But what's making me crazy is that they keep gaslighting her. She's not spinning it. She's just saying she didn't do it. How is that a spin? She's just denying it. They're like, stop spinning it. She's not. She's saying she didn't do it. So she's like, you're spinning it. and you're spinning it the wrong way, Lisa. One day we spin things and they come back to hit us in the face because we are spinning women.

20:49She's like, I literally can't believe you would do this to me. I'm like in shock. I'm like in shock. Have I ever disparaged your marriage? Have I ever disparaged your business? Have I ever done fucking anything to you, Lisa Barlow? I'm going to say what I think. I'm going to say it to your face. And if you don't like it, fuck you. Get off the fucking gun if you can't hear what I have to say. If you don't like that I accuse you of being treacherous this entire group and someone that we should never trust, then fuck you. Okay, man. Okay, man. I'm happy to go. Because the fact that you accuse me of something that I would never do when I'm wearing a cowboy hat is really low, Heather.

21:24It's really low. And you know what, Meredith? Don't even come for me because, like, you've made it clear. Okay? And I've never been accused of something I did not do. I will not do that. And you know what? I don't need to be calmed down. You know what? Do you mean it? Do you want me to go? Do you want me to go? No, of course I don't want you to go. We have two more days of cornering you and accusing you of leaking things to the internet. You can't leave tonight. But how would you feel like if I was like, you're the source. You're the source. You just admitted, Heather, it's you. I have been a very good friend to you, which has nothing to do with this moment, but I'm going to bring it up again.

21:56And I'm a friend to you till the death for some reason. You know what? Being a friend to me is not telling me to admit to something I didn't do. That's not you being a friend. And that's being fucking everything else. Like what you've done to me. Like what you've done, Whitney. Lies. Like what you've done. Lies. You've done it to others. Ha. No, I've not done a fucking thing to you. Get that out of your head by now. No, I'm not going to get it out of my head. Because I know you have done things, that is. Ha. So now Heather's pulling Lisa away. And she's like, don't touch Whitney. Like she's trying to hurt Whitney.

22:34Oh, my God. She's like, you guys are liars and you're fakes. You're fakes. Listen to me. Why is it so fucking bad that you're the one that knows everything about everyone? That's not bad. That shows you know things. You're smart. You're intrepid. You know how to use the internet. You can research things. You know people at places. This is actually a very empowering moment for you. Why aren't you leaning into it? Talk about spinning it. Talk about spinning it right there. Why is it bad that you're the one that knows everything? What? It's crazy. And she's like, I'm not even defending Lisa. I just think that Heather's, I think that Heather's mind games are hilarious.

23:10I'm like, she is working so quickly on such a different level. Oh, she's so gross in how she does it. And Lisa falls for it every time. I feel like everybody falls for it. It's so nice to hear you laughing about it. Cause I'm like, am I the only one seeing that? It's making me crazy. And everyone's like, oh yeah, go get her Heather. She's such a fucking liar. So Lisa's like, it's not true. It's not true. And she goes, okay, then who's the leak? Ask your buddies. just but you are my buddy that's why i'm asking you i'm gonna go john hey john oh i'm like so sad i am like so sad john there's not even a wendy's on the shot john lisa get the fuck away from me i'm so sad john no i'm not gonna leave you i'm not gonna leave you i'm friends till death which is why until your grave i'm gonna accuse you of being the leak like a good friend would do just accuse me of leaking all the blog stuff and like you know that's like the meanest thing that everyone's ever done to me and she goes admit it and she's saying just say you're the source john john are you hearing that's not what i did you're creating this out of your mind no you literally are doing that she's not even making this up fuck off if you want to walk downstairs fucking leave me then fucking leave me tell john what you said say you're the source and like i've never done anything to hurt them john not even once not once john are you there john are you there oh sorry it It was the Wendy's drive-thru.

24:28Hold on. Let me call John. I thought Heather and I had come so far. And for her to go back into this, like, Lisa's a villain. Lisa's the source. It's bullshit. And it's ridiculous. You know what? She's like, it's making, like, it's making me reassess our friendship. Yeah. So now we go back to the crew and Alicia's like, oh my God, that one's threatening to leave. It's amazing. It's amazing. She's loving it. so now heather i mean this is heather is actually almost like moving into like a leon locken space because she walks into angie mary's room and she's now she's sobbing i mean and i say that meaning that leon locken was like one of the queens of melodrama like when she was on dallas so now she's like like oh my god oh my god heather what's happening she's like i was coming to try to find lisa because she's so mad at me but first how are you feeling and angie's like don't worry about me.

25:20I'm just puking up all my feta cheese. What's happening with you? Well, okay. I just merely said, you're the source of all the lies and all the things that are getting leaked. No, something innocent like that. Something a good friend would say to someone. It's practically a Hallmark card. And she just fully freaked out. Why would she freak out on that? And Angie's like, oh, you are so brave. You are so brave. She's like, yeah, and I'm her friend over Bronwyn's, but like she is, you guys, she is the league. And Mary is like, don't cry over that because you're being real. You're being real and real friends need that real friends need it and you know what it is game over game over i don't care what you do it is wrong it is wrong and mary's like the captain was paying attention he said heather's getting at lisa so then whitney is now whitney's like i want to go on a tour daisy will you show me the tour of the kitchen and you know daisy hates this oh god i have to clean up my bedroom because she's gonna want to look inside of it so now whitney's going on some tour and she almost falls down the stairs.

26:21Yeah. And then Jason asked Brittany if she had a good night. She's like, oh, I sure did. So let me ask you this. Do you actually run the ship? It's like, yeah, I'm a captain. It's part of what happens when you're the captain. You become the captain of the ship. So the correlation, you know, when they say correlation does not mean causation. In this case, it does. When you're the captain, you're the captain. Well, could you give me a tour maybe of the ship? Well, tomorrow? Not tonight. I'm going to bed. I've been up since 4 a.m. Oh, but I was just looking for an excuse to get out of here. Okay, go away.

26:57There's other men here. So he leaves. And Whitney's still taking the tour. It's like, oh, my God, the food was amazing. Is this the kitchen where you cook things? Wow. I have a pan at home, too. Look, I could do a dance on it. She's like swinging from the pan rack. I just got a text from Bobby. he wants to know if you have any soda in the refrigerator. She's also clutching her fingers onto the kitchen island and turning pale. So Brittany goes to check on Lisa, and Lisa's now sitting on the edge of the swimming platform thing. And she's like, John, John, tomorrow come get me. I'm going to a hotel.

27:35Promise me you'll come get me, John! It was a 15-hour flight to get over there, by the way. So Brittany's like, hey, hey, Lisa. No, I don't want you near me. I don't want anyone near me. Don't come near me. No. A wise man said, you are loved. You are loved. Can I just hug you? No. No. You know what? It's the sickest thing I've ever heard in my life. Just leave me alone. You know what? I just want to be with John. Can I just say I love you? No. Gross. Don't. I don't want anyone touching me or near me. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So back to Heather crying to Angie and Mary. She goes, Mary, what do I say to her?

28:12Well, you were telling the truth. Just say, I'm being a real friend, and I'm I'm telling you how I feel and I'm telling you how we all feel and we all feel and we all know it. So Mary, Heather's like, I'm going to go now. I'm carrying it for all of us. This is what I do for the sisterhood. I'm carrying it for all of us. Oh, the weight of accusing Lisa of doing something, which is what they do every single season. Like, I got you guys. I got you. I love you so much. That's why I'm going to carry these messages. Okay. so now she goes looking for lisa and britney's like well i was actually looking for you and i found lisa and she's like i'm gonna go talk to her okay is she is she leaving the boat and she's like no she's right there and so she sees her sitting on the end of the dock and lisa's just like john john why did they do this to me and it fades to black so i don't know if lisa leaked or not you know i think i i really do tend to believe this was the audience um like someone in the audience found this shit lisa may have maybe lisa called up a friend said you know what i'm supposed to get brawn when why don't you look up all these rumors that they're saying online like i would not be surprised if lisa gets messy but i think ultimately the takeaway for me was how heather really was heather basically is like wants to accuse Lisa of these things, but somehow also maintain the friendship and act like this is somehow a gesture of like humane sisterhood.

29:42I don't know, but it was hilarious. Yeah. I, I think that there, you know, I don't think Lisa's above talking to bloggers and stuff like that and being like, Oh my God, I heard this thing. Well, I also heard this thing or whatever. I don't think she's above it. The reason I just can't get on her is because I feel like they all fucking do it. I mean, Whitney had the jizz for jazz thing against Lisa. They were all excited to talk about all of Lisa's stuff. I just I just think that they all do it. And I would rather know what's going on with Bronwyn. I wish they would dig into Bronwyn's stuff. I don't think that someone being accused of all this stuff that you should just be able to come in and be like, oh, nothing.

30:17It was nothing. And you guys are ridiculous. And my husband's mad at you for bringing it up. And they're like, OK, let's get Lisa. It's just like you've got such good stuff there to work with. And you're just coming after Lisa again. You do it after you do it every single season, you know but i also would like to know what's going on with lisa because she's the one who actually has active cases against her that are that are happening so i also would like to know about that as well we've completely gotten away from that but i will say one thing i'm really not that interested i'm getting kind of tired of uh housewives fights about who leaked things to the media like i actually i'm starting to feel like that's not the most compelling argument because it's so meta it's really like you can never really get to the bottom of it um you know that aren't But what's happening on Orange County is sort of interesting because it kind of like with the launching off point for like a larger issue about lying in the group with Gretchen, yada, yada, yada.

31:07But like it got tiresome with Lucy, Lucy, Apple juice. I think it's like it's just not my favorite thing. I prefer when the fights are more about true interpersonal things that are happening within the show, within relationships, as opposed to who was talking to what blogger. Because it's sort of I don't know. I don't think it's really about as much the central premise of The Real Housewives about when it becomes about who said what to some outsider. It should be really about how do I feel about you as our relationship and et cetera, et cetera. Like when shifting loyalties, we were best friends.

31:42Now we're not friends anymore. That's more compelling to me. So while this was a very entertaining episode, I have to admit I wasn't totally invested in what they were squabbling about. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the stuff comes out. is going to be out there. So who at this point, like who even cares? Because if she did do it, like, okay, well then where'd you get the information? Like you just did a simple internet search. Like, what are you going to yell at somebody for Googling something? That's kind of what it's becoming, you know, it's like, oh, you Googled something and came up with someone's record sealed records.

32:11Ooh. I mean, I don't know. Yeah. I think like I have no problem Googling somebody. So I Google everybody I meet. So I don't, I don't know. To me, it's just not that big of a deal. Yeah. All right. Well, the Blow Deck Salt Lake City crossover will continue next week. I'm sure it took great effect. And thanks everyone for being here on this episode. We got more recaps coming up later this week. And so be sure that you're subscribed here to Watch What Crappens and we'll catch you on the next one. Bye everyone. Bye. Watch What Crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alison King.

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