#3060 RHOC S19E17 Part Two: And Just Like That…

0:20Hi everyone, welcome back. This is part 2 of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part 1 was, well go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. so that way you always get your episodes but enough of that let's get right back into the episode so now it's evening and everyone is getting ready for glam and um and shannon's like so you guys travel to paris and stuff and the glam people are like yeah she's like oh well i am taking a train there tomorrow to visit my daughter who tried to move across the world to get away from me but guess what surprise surprise second year in a row i'm coming over so gina and emily are still in their shitty messy room and um we see uh the decorated penis still in there which i like that emily kept that and she was like oh my god now emily i just brought my hair i just burnt you can't put plastic into an iron you you're your your hair is made out of like pom-pom material what are you putting it in there for

1:23yeah don't do that do not do not do that um then uh they're all getting into dinner and heather's like shannon are you wearing slippers to dinner honey i i am i well originally i called these my nice shoes but we can call them slippers too thanks thanks for that i just can't believe it's our last night guys i just can't believe it i just can't oh it's our last night i accept it I accept it. Let's eat. So they go in and they start talking about crab. Like, let's get crabbed. And Tamara's like, we don't want itchy crabs, okay, waiter? Yeah, I've had crabs before. He's like, okay, okay. Well, would you like to order something?

2:00I'm like, it's real bad. I'm on my vagina. It was hilarious. It was so bad. This place was crazy, by the way. They had, like, hanging fish everywhere, which, you know, whatever fish place. But also in their, like, fish display they had like several fish that they just like put citrus in their mouth like the fish was just like like it was like a ball gag and like i know like there's a tradition of you know like a suckling pig you put the apple in the pig's mouth and everything but i think the difference is that the the pig definitely looks dead and cooked it's like oh here is a cooked pig with a with an apple in its mouth but these fish still kind of look alive they're not but they just look alive because they they're just sort of in the same raw they're like at their raw state and you just look at these fish and you're like, can we give the fish just a shred more dignity before it's consumed by the likes of Tamara and Shannon?

2:52The lemon. It's just more fish. So they make a toast and Tamara's like, guys, it's been such a rough year for me. What was Gretchen coming after me for over a decade? And then we start getting the

3:13Our favorite song So good

3:20Key change Oh god Bridge That song

3:28Okay let's see what's going on Terry and Eddie have been spending lots of time in Big Bear And Sophie is planning to move to New York City To pitch in music She has no plan to record anything with her mother because she'll probably fuck somebody named Nelson.

3:44Okay, back to my speech. I just want to thank you guys for being there. And Heather, you helped me through some really dark times, and I appreciate that, which is my way of saying, why are you such a shitty friend to be a hoist? I owe you such a bad friend to be, bitch. What? Heather and Terry sold their Beverly Hills house at a$5.8 million loss. No big deal. and she doesn't plan on buying a new place in Orange County and that's no lie. Come on, Kyle Richards. We can be friends. Let me onto your show, please.

4:17Thank you, thank you. Yeah, everybody, so it was a great trip and I'm really looking forward to the future with you guys. The gated group is still going strong, as are Gina and Travis. And Gina's still living without fear Unless she's critiquing Heather's improv. Excuse me. I also have an update, which is to say, Shannon has a new guy in her life, Troy, a golden retriever, and she's riding this emotional high, space cake free. Can we get a new Alfredo in here for me, please? I don't like my bedumpches. May our glam always be flawless. May our receipts always be accurate. Okay. Oh, thank you. Thank you.

5:06Thank you. Thank you. This is, while Ryan and Jen still do not have a wedding day planned, Dawson recently graduated from Marine's bootcamp and passed out 20 minutes into the ceremony. So, God. I just, I, I won't get, is it, is it really true that as a new girl, I don't get a badumtcha? There really is. There's just, is there just no other badumtcha that's around there for me to, to hear? No? Okay.

5:35Is that a petum show or is there an actual medical emergency happening right now? Okay, that's fine. So now Heather's like, okay, I'll do it again. So maybe our friendships, although sometimes complicated, always be worth the ride. What is she talking about? She's terrible at cheersing. Did you just make that up or read it at chat GPT? Well, actually, funny story. I had Christy McNichol write it for me and then when she gave it to me I said well I'm glad you finally got a gig after 20 years here's$5 Emily continues to navigate Luke's evolving diagnoses and she's learning to embrace life's unpredictable ride including the one at the Abbey oh

6:25okay wait a minute are those sharks hanging down off the Selling And they're like Maybe it's a tuna I don't know Is that a tuna Or a shark Hey everyone Hey Gretchen Hey Gina They stopped playing The nice music At the end So I think that means You have to start Doing the dark stuff now Okay Oh okay Okay Okay Gretchen There's something That I have to address With y 'all When we were in Orange County Oh wait Wait Are you talking About the conversation We had together Yeah Yeah Because it's been Weighing on me Yeah Say it Say it Say it It's been waiting on me, and I cannot, I can't not bring this up, Gretchen.

7:04It's been waiting on me, too. Like, waiting on me so hard that I had to have Gina say it for me. Okay, go on. Go do it, Gina. Do it. Well, Tamara shared a lot of posts that you've liked that are, like, very disparaging towards the LGBTQ community. LGBTQ plus community. LGBTQ plus community. Oh, my gosh. I would never do that. I mean, if I liked something, then I probably didn't know what it was about. I'm dumb. I don't have any issue with the LGBTQ lethargic community. The lethargic LGBTQ community. But wait a minute. Then why are you on social media liking these things? And she's like, well, unfortunately, sometimes I'm probably scrolling quickly and liking things.

7:52And so I don't know. Maybe I'm not paying enough attention. Oh, no, ma 'am. I'm sorry. Oh really you just happened to press like On accident on every single Hateful fucking gay related post That there is come on Gretchen It's too much Slipped into that one You know sometimes I go on to no homo talk And I just like things by accident My bad So Shannon's like I mean by the way How did you see it Tamara Let's not forget Tamara over here Because this would be fun Well it was something that was sent through iHeart and Emma's like did you talk about it no I was like no that's why I had sent it to me cause they were like don't talk about this so Jen is like but Tamara do you have it up yeah here it is so they're looking at it and Gina's like oh my god there's like a lot of it and there's like one about Dylan Mulvaney Jen's like who's that she is a friend of mine and we have a flashback to earlier in the season when Dylan was on Heather's podcast and they talked about discrimination and the hate that Dylan receives as a trans woman.

8:58Here's the thing. You know, they're saying like, oh, this was just sent to Tamara and iHeart. iHeart Radio sent Tamara headlines, meaning they were things that were already out in the news. This was not something that was like, oh, iHeart's doing this deep-cutting investigative journalism. All the ladies knew that this has been out. I mean, this is crazy. This stuff has been out for over a year at least. It's been out a couple of years. I've known about it. And I'm not like some magic person doing detective work here. They all know this. You're telling me that no one, no one texted Heather Dubrow and said, look at all these likes of Gretchen's.

9:35No one really in all of this time. Someone reminded me this morning. They added me and there is a giant thread on X that says it's a thread exposing Orange County alum Gretchen Rossi's problematic views, including racism, homophobia, transphobia, COVID misinformation, et cetera. And it's like, it's one thing. It's like one screenshot after another, after another, after another of like the things that Gretchen has liked. And that was August 5th, 2023. So it has like - It's been out there. It's been out. So everybody pretending they've never heard of this and they can't believe it. And they're all so shocked, especially Heather.

10:17Like, what are you talking about? This stuff has been out there forever and someone sent this to you. And I don't believe for one second that the rest of us saw it, but you didn't. That's just absolute bullshit. I think the show told them, listen, we're going to bring Heather. We're going to bring Gretchen on here. And we don't want this to become, you know, some hate filled blah, blah, blah. We don't want you to go for her for that. Because, you know, Tamara's had this in her back pocket for years to use. Anybody who doesn't like Gretchen has. So I'm just not buying this. And it just seems crazy to me.

10:46I don't know if I'm going to say that Heather like knew, knew. I think I sometimes I think like Heather could be like me where it's like I hear from like you. Oh, Gretchen's been posting like really homophobic stuff. And I'm like, OK, I I trust that you said it. I trust you. And I'm like, oh, I hear that she does homophobic stuff. But like I don't really like go necessarily like go out and find the tweet and look at what she liked because I'm lazy. And I'm like, OK, I trust Ronnie on this one. And but but by me not doing that, I just I'm like, OK, whatever. not whatever like that's okay but it doesn't hit with the same potency as it does when you actually see what she has liked and I would not be surprised if Heather is sort of in a similar place because I do think that Heather is she is a really strong advocate for these things and I don't think that if Heather had seen it with her own eyes I don't think she would be chill I really don't I think maybe she had known about it and I can imagine she did a mental workaround where she said, well, she's conservative.

11:49I'm liberal. We'll find a way to shoot together, find a way. And I don't think she really knew or she was in denial or whatever until this moment. Maybe I'm being naive, but that's really how I read the situation. I just don't see a world where someone in the audience didn't send her some of these screenshots. I mean, I'm going to go over some of these right now because these are insane. And some of them, like in the one you sent where there's 20. Some of that you can argue and say, well, these are just conservative views. These are what people are saying all the time on Twitter. OK, some of them.

12:21We teach gender ideology in school. And so it's normal for half of preteen classrooms to be gender questioning. Kids admit the cool kids in their class are transgender. So they just want to be trans, too. It's all too much. Dems have gone too far. I'm out. So things like that. I read that. I'm extremely offended, but I read it all the time in conservative threads. So I'm also not shocked that someone who's really MAGA and conservative would say that, right? But then you get to posts like this one. Hold on a second. I've got these all over my phone. This was by Tyson James, liked by Gretchen Rossi.

12:56When you opened the door to homosexuality, you opened the door to pedophilia. You'll never win by normalizing perversion. Sin is a slippery slope. You think it's bad now? Give it a couple of years. If you want to save the kids, start by calling homosexuality what it is. That was July 14th so there's no world in which somebody like me or somebody in the audience doesn't send this to these people in the cast i just don't believe it so i don't know i think it's a thing i think other people in the cast may have known i think that i don't know it's i don't do you think that gina do you think gina had seen these before yes they've all seen them these people are all on here all the time looking at instagram and seeing what everybody's talking about that's all they talk about on housewives now it's like what's going on on the blogs who's talking to the blogs who said what they all know they're certain bloggers they're all caught talking to the bloggers i just can't believe and they're all on instagram constantly and their assistants and their social media people are on there constantly there's no world in which heather doesn't have a million people telling her heather this woman is crazy and look at all the stuff she's liking on here this stuff this is not some hidden thing that hasn't been out this has been out for a long time so do you think gina acted very much like this is the first time she'd seen these do you think it was a situation where by tamra bringing it up on camera i think it was like do you think it was a situation where they're all looking the other way because it was like this is the sort of thing that's like a little too serious for the real housewives do you think that when tamra brought it up to gina on camera gina realized that she had to kind of like take a stand and say something rather than being accused of looking the other way?

14:39Do you think she was getting ahead of the story in that way, which is why she confronted her? Which is similar to the advice she gave Katie regarding Heather Dubrow last season. Like you have to talk to Heather Dubrow because if you don't, I'm going to have to do it. Do you think that was what happened? I think she's like a producer plant and she and Emily do whatever the producers want is what I think. Like anytime something needs to move forward, they're always the ones to come forward and do it. But if Tamara told them two or three weeks ago before this, they've all just been sitting there on this, not saying anything on camera, which is bullshit.

15:08I don't believe that any of them would do that. I don't believe Tamara would sit on this for a whole year when she's going against Gretchen and fake quitting the show and doing all this stuff if she had this in her pocket. I think production was saying, you're not going to be able to use it. And Tamara was like, well, I'm going to use it. And so for two weeks, they've been trying to figure out how are we going to deal with this? Okay, let's put it in the last five seconds of the show. So, and then we'll, and then producers turned it back on Tamara by saying, okay, well, if Tamara's going to do that, then we're going to blow it all back on her and expose all Tamra's shit and make Tamra the villain in all of this.

15:37It's just so crazy. And it's crazy that me, of all people, would stick up for Tamra in this situation. Because I do 100 % believe that Tamra has relationships with bloggers and that she's shady and she's doing everything that they're accusing her of. But it doesn't change the fact that Gretchen, like all these, there's tons of them. There's tons of them. There's tons of them. We're like, I got my Trump hat. And it's like there is a line of like, okay, we're watching TV and politics. And especially if you're doing something in Orange County where there's a lot of conservative people in Orange County.

16:06Everybody knows it, you know. And so how much of that do you put on the show? And how much of it do you want the audience fighting over political shit? Right. And I can see how the producers wouldn't want that because it's going to piss everybody off. And nobody wants to see that on TV. However, this is beyond just political shit. She is posting nasty, homophobic, transphobic, horrible, horrible, horrible shit that they're just trying to sweep under the rug here. And it's gross. It's fucking gross. And I think the whole cast is complicit in agreeing to go along with it in the first place. And I think they do it a lot where they're just like, OK, we're going to let this person get away with bad behavior because we want our job on this TV show.

16:44And they choose. I think that's I think that's that's a fair point. And I mean, if Tamara saw these headlines a year ago, what's hard to imagine, I guess I don't know if I'm walking back some of my words or not, but I'm just sort of thinking through it like on the fly. It's hard to imagine that the moment that Tamara hears that Gretchen's coming back on the show, her arch rival, that Tamara doesn't immediately call up Heather Dubrow and say, Gretchen's coming back. And just so you know, she's done this, this, this, this. These are all her tweets. It's hard to believe. And in fact, they ask her later on, like, why would you, why would you reach out to Gina and not Heather?

17:21And that is a really weird thing. So I don't know why she wouldn't reach out to Heather. Maybe, maybe in that moment, Tamara is actually protecting Heather. Maybe she had reached out to Heather and she's not saying that she did that because she doesn't want to put Heather in a really tough situation. So she says she just only reached out to Gina. I'm not sure. There's really a lot to speculate on in this situation, but you're right. In the end, seeing, really looking at those tweets today, this morning, it's pretty shocking what Gretchen liked. And what's also, what's even more shocking is her inability to, like her attempt to actually act like it wasn't her, that she didn't do it.

18:00I'm like, you cannot come onto this show with that hair, praying in a family circle before you go up to Beverly Hills for sleepover, praying to Jesus, and then act like, and act shocked that anyone would even think there's any, like, that people would accuse you of liking these things. It'd be one thing if you turn it on and then you see Lisa Rinna liking all this stuff. And you're like, whoa, Lisa Rinna was probably hacked. I don't know why Lisa Rinna is my choice, but whatever. But I would still think Lisa Rinna is hacked. But Gretchen, you come on here, dress like Megyn Kelly meets the 1950s.

18:42And you're very, very religious. and then you're hot liking very sort of right wing hateful views on on gays and trans people and then you act like it's crazy that people would think that those are real likes like you can't bamboozle us yeah we're not that fucking stupid lady my god it's crazy well some people are because i'm reading the comments and i'm like what people are falling for this bullshit this is such crap i can't believe it but i just i just find it interesting that everybody's taking aside it's like either i believe that there are a lot of people who believe gretchen's innocent and they're like you guys need to leave conservatives alone we're being bullied and then there are a lot of people are like no fuck gretchen get her off this show but i don't i don't see why everyone's not outraged at this whole thing because everybody fucking knew this was going on everybody including heather and heather re-followed gretchen last week and all of this other shit so i don't understand what's happening and i guess maybe the reunion will explain it but unless someone went seriously photoshop crazy photoshopped all these rants which seems like such a random way to get at somebody like oh my god look what post she liked i don't think that would be something that you fake you would fake actual posts that she made right no one's gonna go fake a whole internet history for years and years of this shit so i don't know what they're doing to explain it that heather would even forgive this at all or any of them would forgive this shit at all but for them to all act like they've just heard it is absolute hogwash and i think this this show owes everybody an apology because this is bullshit this is bullshit and we've got a lot more to go that was that's just the start it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial so they're confronting gretchen and she's like um oh my god they've got to be kidding me right because like out of all the things you could say this is what you're going to come up with i mean this is just ridiculous nothing's true and heather's like do you understand that i just threw an event for the trevor project lgbtq plus youth in so in danger right now every 40 seconds she's like yeah somebody commits suicide i know and so now they're like kind of chatting at each other and tamra's like well yeah and you know what and heather goes i am speaking i was like yes this is a righteous my turn still me i was like yes it's and a righteous version of it.

21:06I love it. And so she says like every 45 seconds, a queer child tries to kill themselves. And Gretchen's like, yeah, I know, I know, I know. It's like, do you understand what hate rhetoric like this does to our children? It's like, yes, yes, I do. No, you don't. You obviously do not. No, you don't. And you don't care. And she's just sitting there really calmly, like trying to figure out what to do. You know, like her whole demeanor is really weird. She's like, but no, it's not true. I mean, what? I mean, it's just unbelievable. if I am, honestly, if I am pro-gay and I'm being accused on camera of being anti-gay or like, well, obviously I'm gay.

21:43How about, let's say like racism. Okay. Someone says I'm a racist and I'm on camera and I, I believe my heart of hearts. I am not racist. And I said, and, and, and I, and someone accused me of that on camera. I'm not going to be like, no, no. I'd be like, what? no absolutely not like what happened like how can i clear this up like there must be some misunderstanding show me what happened i need to like address this right away because like if i if i did something if i put that out there like oh i need to clear this up and if i said something wrong i need to apologize like i need to like like i i is mandatory mandatory that people know that that's not what's in my heart right now and gretchen's just sitting there like huh Because like you said, she's trying to figure out like, oh, shit, this is coming up.

22:30How do I spend this? How do I get out of this? Like, what do I do? I thought I already put this fire out. Yeah, she knew. She knew it was going to come up. So she's like, wait a minute. Didn't we already delete all these likes? Like, how am I getting? How am I getting pummeled for this? Like, you can see her so confused about it. And also one little thing that's missing here, which is, I think, the smoking gun is if somebody comes at you and says there's all these posts that you like. and Tamara has the screenshots, when are you going to say, show me the screenshots? Show me the accounts. Go online right now.

23:01And why aren't they saying, where's your phone? Show us who you follow on your phone. Show us that you didn't like these things. Go ahead. Show us. Nobody's doing that. So I just, this whole thing is so gross. So then Heather's saying, this doesn't seem like Gretchen, because Gretchen's always had a lot of friends in the community. And if it's true, she has no words. I mean, people that you pay to do your hair aren't really friends in the community. And hiring somebody to come be a clown at your fucking drag queen Tupperware party in 2012 doesn't prove anything either. Well, it's also like saying, well, I have some of my best friends are black.

23:37You know, people, there are a lot of, we see it all the time where people kind of like to visit a marginalized community in a sense and yet not actually support them. you know it's like sometimes you people like to come and get the perks of it and love the association of it but when it comes down to actually what you're voting for what you care about what you advocate for it's like crickets so gretchen's saying that she had a drag tupperware party and she like if that's the best you can do is like cite a party you had in 2009 okay an on-camera party with drag queens like oh okay okay Gretchen so she's saying it's not like me Heather and she goes why are you not horrified like can someone at least show her that because she still hasn't even asked to see them so Gretchen's like well it just makes me really sad guys and she goes it makes you sad and Tamara's like yeah well if you feel that way just say you feel that way and at least stand up for what you believe you know because you're representing us when you're on this show, basically.

24:39So Gina does show Gretchen the phone and Gretchen doesn't really look at it, you know? And Heather's like, this is about human decency. And then Jen tries to jump in and help her. And she's like, well, maybe do you feel biblically like this is something? Because I know you're very strong in your faith. And Heather's like, biblical? You know, like, don't even start this shit. Don't even start it. And Jen's like, I'm just asking her. I'm just trying to find out why she would do this. And Tamara's like, Jesus, that's good. And she's like, whoa, no, I'm sorry. I'm just trying to figure it out. And Heather goes, Jesus does not like, hey.

25:15She's like, I'm not saying that, Heather. Jen, this is, Heather is angry right now. Just step back. Because Heather, I mean, Heather was livid. I mean, she was, I mean, the rage was in her eyes. And justifiably so. So, she, you know, they're like, Jesus doesn't hate. And Jen's like, listen, I'm not trying to stand up for Gretchen. I'm just trying to give her an escape hat to leave out of and get out of here. So Jen, friend to no one. Jen's like, well, I'm just trying to understand. Where would her fucking mind be? I mean, it doesn't add up. You know, I know Gretchen. I know her soul. And I know her heart.

25:52And something's amiss here. And I don't think it is. I mean, if you've looked at her Instagram at one time, you pretty much know where she stands. I don't know how this is shocking to you, Jen. But okay. Well, also the nose is amiss because it's really been facetuned out. So Heather says, you are intentionally liking hate rhetoric. She's like, I don't know what you're talking about. So that's why I'm asking. You did that. And so Gina's like, look, it's here, right? You see that? Like, she's going to need an explanation. You see, like, that heart? You see your name on there? That means you like something, okay?

26:24And Gretchen is just stalling out. She's just trying to figure out what her game plan is. She's like, yeah, I understand. She's like, all I know is I'm seeing a screenshot of something I supposedly liked, and I've never seen it in my life. and I'm completely blindsided with this information that is not my truth. I don't have the answers for you right now because it's just not who I am. I mean, how do you say you don't have the answers for you because it's not who I am? I don't, like, it's wild. Like, the thing is, we're all, the whole, like, the spoof texts, spoof phone calls, this comes up on Bravo every now and then.

26:58It's always a losing argument. Like, you liked it. If anything, just say, you know what? I like these things two or three years ago. I, uh, it's something that I believed in at that time. I have since done a lot of work and I've learned from people and I realized it was a really closed minded, like just attempt to do something like that. And she just can't even do that. I mean, she's just, and also as we find out later, she still follows all these accounts, these same accounts. These are not just like random posts that never come up on these, the Matt Welsh blog, et cetera. This is like rhetoric.

27:30You don't, or rhetoric, sorry, that you don't just see once in a while on these accounts. The shit is on those accounts all the time. Fucking, I mean, it's just ridiculous. So she's like, well, I ain't never even seen those screenshots. And that's, listen, I'm telling you, that's how I felt. And Heather's like, Gretchen, why would you do that? And she's like, I don't know. And they're like, I don't know. It's not a good answer. She goes, I don't know though. So then of course she runs off and calls Slade. And Shannon's like upset and she's crying. And she's like, some of my best friends are in that community and I can't believe this.

28:05And so now that Gretchen has run off, Jen's like, so wait, Tamara, you knew about this for how long? And she goes, about a year. And Shannon's like, well, why wouldn't you say anything before? And she's like, because no matter what I say, I'm the bad guy. And Shannon's like, but if it's, that's not the point. Don't try to deflect by it. Why don't you say something sooner? Are you defending her? She's like, no, but it's a legitimate question. if something heinous happened, why wouldn't you let us know? She's like, because it's so gross. It was too dark. And if it was something this dark and this gross, she'd only be brought up on a cast trip by Gina.

28:39Yeah. It's so gross, it's so dark. I mean, if it was something fun and light, like cheating on your boyfriend with cancer, that would have been fun. But, you know, this is too dark. Too dark. You know, and she was doing this whole, like, you guys are trying to blame me for not telling you. Yeah, but the point of this is you're making them look bad if they didn't know, which obviously I don't believe at all. But if they didn't know and you did know, you're making that, you're putting them in a position where they're supporting this person all year long. And then boom, at the end of the year, you're like, ha ha, you've been supporting a hateful bigot this whole time.

29:13You know? So you are putting them in a bad situation. Assuming that Chan is telling the truth. It's shitty of Tamara because she's like, well, I'm always the bad guy. But like that has never, ever stopped Tamara before. She'll say things, but she willingly does things like this before. And if this is something that she was like, she actually was truly upset about. I mean, I'm not saying that she's not upset about it, but I'm saying like, she's obviously like, this is so bothersome to me, but you've held onto it for a year and you didn't ever say anything like that. Any true ally would have said something, period.

29:49And that's my problem with all of these ladies. you know you choose something like a television you're on a fucking gay network and i'm sure that that's why the network i'm sure was like we're not bringing this shit up on the network like hell no this is like a very big like gays love this network you know we're not going to touch this but you brought her back knowing that this shit was going on and then you were just going to try and sweep it under the rug and be quiet no you all you fucking all suck you all suck like i don't think there's any standing up for any of them in this for me like they're all fucking gross yeah so tamra tamra's basically saying if i were accused of being a homophobic bitch i'd be crying my eyes out and gretchen's like but i know i'm not i'm not i'm i i'm i'm upset like about something but that i i'm not upset about something that i know that i know who i am and what my heart feels gretchen's saying she's not going to get upset because she knows her truth i'm like i think that's the most time that's exactly when you get upset when you know exactly who you are what you believe in and you are being misrepresented in a massive and hurtful way on tv you get very upset she got upset over less this is where she's like oh this is crazy i mean i had a drag queen tupper party in 2009 which we see and uh she's like i've never been judgmental or had anything negative to say you know like i don't care but people live their life and we see heather she's moved off to the bar to call Terry and she's crying and saying, oh my God, Gretchen has been liking all these anti-gay, anti-trans posts.

31:19And then back at the table, Gretchen is still saying she's shocked and she doesn't remember liking any of this. She's like, what? I don't even know the account that you just showed me that I follow. And Tamara's like, I'm not buying your bullshit. And she's like, well, you guys are trying me, make me out to be a homophobic person. It's like, oh my God. And Emily's like, you're just sitting there going, I don't know, I don't know. And they're basically like, go talk to Heather. Okay. She's obviously upset. Like, yeah, the burden, Emily says the burden's on you to make her feel better. So Gretchen leaves the table and Emily is like, if I was being accused of something I absolutely did not do, I'd be crawling across the table beating the fucking shit out of Tamra Judge.

31:54I mean, I'll do that anyway. And the fact is that she's angry. She doesn't make it, she's not angry. It doesn't make any sense to me. So Gretchen goes up to Heather and Heather is like, I don't know what to say. I'm horrified. Horrified. And Gretchen's like, but do you think I have hate towards your children? and it's like it's frustrating it's frustrating at least Barlow would say because people underestimate their ability to compartmentalize and that like Gretchen can be sweet and lovely to Heather's children in one space but then like an Instagram post in another and it's like people don't realize how they do that and then they're like what but just because I like this one thing over here look how nice of these people over here i'm like yeah because you're kind of like i don't know is this the definition of exceptionalism or whatever but you're sort of viewing those like oh well i like heather's kids they're they're like the good ones or whatever so like she doesn't realize i think it's typical in extreme religious i grew up in a very extreme religious environment and i cannot tell you how many times i was told like oh you're you know what ronnie we love you so much but you know it's just hate to center don't hate to see or hate to sin don't hate the sinner you know what you're doing is wrong i don't agree with your lifestyle no of course you shouldn't have the right to get married of course you shouldn't because that's just not god's will but it doesn't mean i have to hate you it's almost like look at what a good person i am by being nice to somebody that's an absolute garbage sinner you know which is the attitude you get a lot and you will get it straight to your face and people telling you you don't deserve your equal rights and you don't deserve shit and you should have the right they should have the right to discriminate against you.

33:35And if we gave you the right to get married, we'd be given the same right to people to marry their goat. I mean, I've been told this shit to my face by my own family. Like, this is not some new thing, this new phenomenon that's just happening with people like Gretchen. And it's a pretty interesting reckoning right now in our country where this stuff is happening. And now we're seeing these people take over the laws and we're seeing what they're doing with the laws to turn them against gay people, minorities, what they're doing with ICE, what they're doing. I mean, it's just a fucking clusterfuck right now in this country.

34:09And now we have to listen to these people being like, oh my God, you guys are bigots. Who are the real bigots? It's you guys who are calling us out on your podcast and you're calling us out in comments and you're calling us out online and you're trying to cancel us and we're just trying to have an opinion. Fuck you. Your opinion is that nobody else should have rights except you. So go fuck yourself, Gretchen. I'm not going to sit here and listen to you fucking cry. And I'm not going to sit here and listen to these other ladies act like they're fucking heroes for calling her on Instagram posts that have been out for years and they did nothing about so they can make their fucking paycheck sitting on this show and pretending that they like her for money.

34:43Fuck all you guys. Yeah, well said. So the back at the table, you know, Shannon and Tamara, Shannon's talking about how the damage is really deep and everything. And Tamara's saying it's disgusting and it's a horrible situation. and then naturally Tamra goes, I mean, she's a horrible fucking person. She's been going after me for 12 years. I'm like, okay, Tamra, no, you can't. This is not your moment. Yeah, you're a real fucking stonewall, Tamra. Tamra once again tried to like push her going after me for 12 years agenda. So Gretchen calls up Slade and she's like, they're accusing me of liking posts on Instagram that are homophobic.

35:23And he's like, what? what? Yeah, you have no idea. He's like, well, that's crazy. I mean, that's like, that's so not like you. I'm confused. Yeah, they're accusing me of being homophobic. Wow, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. And you know that they're planning this because they automatically have, they automatically have their backup, right? So it's like, oh, really? Tamara, the lady who made a homophobic slur on camera at me in 2008 when she said, I look like a homo for wearing white thong sandals. Okay. Yes. That was terrible too. I'm not letting Tamara off on anything. That was 2008.

36:02This was last year. This is right now, Slade. Like, come on. Yeah. Yes, exactly. So then Slade's like, I mean she made a gay slur. When you search Tamara and gay slur, she comes up on the internet. Well, of course she comes up because you typed in her name. You idiot. So Gretchen's like, I agree. So she goes back to the table. That's awkward. Tamra's like, did Slade give you any good advice? She's like, well, he just said he knows it's absolute bullshit. And he said, you don't have to defend anything. Like, you literally have to defend so much right now. Like, please do not go to Slade Smiley for PR advice right now.

36:42Yeah, Slade also said you didn't have to pay your fucking child support. And that's still why you can't marry him, you idiot. So Heather's like, well, that's where he's wrong, though. That's where he's wrong. And Gretchen's like, okay. and the other goes yeah you do have to explain if you want your friendship to last you do need to explain and she's like but you guys gotta understand this is brand new information to me no it's not and you must have known that this was gonna come in some shape or form you need to be better prepared you know no I think the issue is that she knows she has this in the past but she thought it was never something that was gonna wind up on the show and so that's why it's new information so uh Tamara's like I don't think Heather wants to hear what you have to say 12 years I've been tormented 12 years so Heather is really mad and Gina's like I think she wants to hear something else from you and they're like we're gonna go so they're all gonna go and Jen's like you need to defend yourself Gretchen that's the fucking problem I tried to give you the biblical thing you didn't even take that defend yourself she's like but I did defend myself she's like no you didn't I mean this is sad even I Jen Petranti can see that you're not defending yourself I even gave you a Bible as a weapon Just swing it people and you still wouldn't do it Like I handed you the weapon Yeah And she's like and then you called Slade That's the worst thing you could have done is call Slade So then they basically get a different car for Gretchen Yeah they're like she's not coming in this car So Jen's like You know she needs to tell everybody I did not do this which she did do But they're not going to believe it So Gretchen comes to get in the car And Tamara's like no no no And Emily's like Gretchen you need a separate car honey and now Gretchen finally gets some fire now that Gretchen realizes that she's being iced out by the cast she's not going to be in the sprinter van now suddenly she's able to summon the emotion that she should have had the outrage that she should have had if she were truly innocent yeah and she's like okay well that's fine I understand but you guys you don't know what I believe and you're doing this to me and Heather's like doing this to you and she starts having a fit a tearless fit screaming like you guys, why are you doing this to me?

38:47I don't know where this is coming from. I've never seen it. I mean, I don't, you know, this isn't who I am, Heather. Why would I have all these people in my life? And she's like, I don't know. And then they're basically like leave. And then those tears, there's no tears. Hershey just dropped her whole act. Yeah, dry face. Yeah, it's like, fuck these people and walks off to her own car. And I mean, I think we pretty much see the fakery right there. Oh, loser. So then Tam is like, Do you guys understand why this entire year I've been so fucking annoyed? She's not a good person. Oh, yes. This sounds like these homophobic likes have really been weighing heavily on you, Tamara, which is why you didn't mention them at all at any moment.

39:27You didn't even allude to things. Tamara didn't even do her class. They're like, I know things. I've seen things. It's not good. She didn't even do that. Yeah, and saying like, you see what I've been saying this whole year? This whole year, we've seen you trying to make up with Gretchen and make a truce with Gretchen. And just today in this episode, you made a friendship pack with Gretchen. So stop, please get off the ally hill. You're not like the queen of the allies here, okay? The only reason you give a shit is because you can hurt Gretchen with it. You don't win any awards. You ain't gonna be glad.

39:56Speaking so much truth today. These people are such fucking hypocrites. I can't, especially with Tamara. It's like, congratulations. It's like you called the fire department when the house was already burnt down. Mm-hmm.

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40:18so now it's the next day and everyone's in the car going to the airport and gina kicks off the scene with a variation on her trademark i felt awful about the way that dinner went

40:33i felt blah blah and that's like i didn't sleep until 3 45 it's like but i went in the actual oh god this really this is when i started losing my i know i've already lost my mind today i'm trying to stay calm i know i'm not really staying calm but i told myself going into this i wouldn't go too crazy today i'm trying okay but watching the show this is everything you're saying is so everything you're saying is so true and it's so real and uh i think you just i think you're doing but i'm just like okay veins don't pop out but this when i'm watching the show this is what really killed me when we saw what they were gonna do i was like you've got to be fucking kidding me bravo so gina's like well i went to the actual pages of the people and she does follow these accounts okay case closed then because honestly some of these accounts are so fucking disgusting that even that is enough for me to convict.

41:27But she's like, but then I went to the post that she supposedly liked and I can't find one. Really? Maybe it's because this was all in the press recently and Slade went back and unliked every single post. Yes. Duh. Exactly. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, they're like, what, of a year old? And Dean's like, yeah, but like, I can't find the actual proof. So what sort of proof did you get when you ran Katie off the show? Just wondering. So Tamara's like - did she just go and unlike these accounts so emily's like well i don't know that's the question you can't just sit across from someone and accuse them of doing something without knowing for sure and then here we are judging her reply and maybe she was just in shock and didn't know what to do and basically like like emily says that question's response did bother her but like we have to decipher what happened in real time without a lot of information i mean really this was not like one post that someone, it's like an enormous, an enormous amount of screenshots that are out there.

42:27Also, this argument doesn't work that you're processing this in real time because you've had these posts for two to three weeks by your own admission. Tamara gave you this information two to three weeks ago. So if you really wanted to do all this proof and you really wanted to do all this, why weren't you looking this shit up then? Why are you only looking it up now? You're acting like you're, you're acting like you never had time to do this. You've had these pose for over a year. So Emily is like, I'm just going to go to sleep and wake up the night. You just can't like just wake up smiling happy about this.

42:58So Heather feels, you know, she's like feels bad. Like she feels terrible because it's a triggering conversation. And she obviously like saw red when it all happened. And Heather's like, you know, but she's also a friend for a long time. So I don't know. Gretchen's always been really kind to me and my family. I would hate to ever accuse someone of something that's not true. yeah i have to know what they what they've talked i have to know what they talked about in the off season that made heather follow gretchen again and i'm sure it's going to come out in the reunion yeah who knows because i saw a preview for the reunion and it doesn't look like gretchen's like okay i did say those things and i'm different i've learned it's nothing like that she's blaming everybody else and saying it's all fake like somebody hacked her or something so i don't know what happened either but it's it's crazy that that happened so it'll be interesting to see but um heather's like you know i said i hope this isn't true and gretchen said it isn't so i guess we'll find out and gina's like but guys okay it's my finale i feel really really really bad i want to bring something based on information that i thought was true but now i'm not sure it's true so i don't know i'm just not sure take a look at the account she stills follow and then tell me it's not true that's true it's true so gina's like well i mean she's saying she didn't do it, you know?

44:13So she seemed like very confused by it. It's funny. I wonder if Gretchen thinks that, I wonder if Gretchen feels like she deserves a second chance and for people to understand her. And I wonder if she feels like she's banging her head against the wall because the group has already made a decision about her and now she's been, you know, kicked out. I wonder, and I wonder if she feels those things and then she has any sort of reflection about Katie because of course she doesn't. Of course she doesn't. Not to make it all about Katie, but I love I love going They're all hypocrites Yeah they're hypocrites So Emily's like yeah she should have said fuck you For Tambor for bringing this up You guys brought it up actually And Gina's like This just goes back to the root of the problem You know like you and Gretchen go Tit for tat all the time I'm removing myself And Tambor's like oh so now it's my fault And they're all like oh yeah Gina totally got played Gina declaring that she's removing herself from the tit for tap between two people is now becoming a tradition on Orange County.

45:14Like every, at the end of every season, I'm going to remove myself because you're such a fucking idiot. You get played so easily. You were such an obvious chess piece for everyone on this show. And like every time she announces that she's going to no longer, no longer be part of the manipulations, she just falls into someone else's trap. And it's always right after she does the thing that she was being tricked into doing. It's like you walked in there with a bomb vest and now you exploded it. And you're like, well, I'm not doing that anymore. It's like, oh, idiot. So Tamara's like, oh, God, fuck you.

45:46You're going to make it seem like it's my fault. And Emily's like, no, or just say that you guys keep coming after each other about stuff you see on mine. And she's like, oh, my God, I don't want to be around her. Like, I don't fight with her. She's a terrible person. And Gina's like, you know, they go on about this. And Tamara's like, you know, how much shit am I supposed to take from this girl? Like, all these things she can say about me and I just sit back? No, fuck, checkmate, bitch. yeah so now uh she's like i'm not destroying my fucking life and gretchen rossi will never fucking destroy my life because i have a good life and i'm not out here liking things so gina's like well she feels the same well that was a really good speech tamra she feels the same way and now look at the position she's in well maybe she did it to herself because maybe calm is a Bitch.

46:30God. So now we go to one week later at Gretchen's house. So Slade's like, how are you holding up, honey? And she's like, oh, I'm trying to pretend I'm okay. And she's so depressed because her friends are questioning her. And, you know, she should have thought to say at the time, show me the post, not a screenshot. Like, I wouldn't ever like something like this. You did, Gretchen. You liked hundreds of things like that. And then you went back and deleted all the likes. and she's like yeah the only reason i said i don't think so is because i'm seeing what everybody else is seeing so i mean i thought it must be true fucking stupid so now tamra is over talking to eddie she's like my biggest concern right now is their retaliation against me and you 12 years 12 years we've had to endure this hardship i can't i'm scared hold me eddie hold me i don't want to go down like this they're gonna attack when the lights go out hold the can turn on a candle because otherwise we're dead after production wraps some of the women received dms from a person with information about the show which was not yet known to the public let's get him on the phone so gina's like oh my god the account is back and now it has a different name um yeah emily just sent me a screenshot and they said i know you don't know who i am i'm just someone who wants to expose the truth and tamra's been leaking details about the entire season throughout filming to bloggers and fan pages?

47:57Okay, then why didn't we know about this season? No one knew anything about this season before it came out. So where were these leaks? No, we knew that Katie wasn't filming. I think we knew some other stuff. Not until the season was going. No, we knew, oh, before the season, we knew that Katie wasn't on the cast trip. We knew that there was a big fight. We knew that there was, like that maybe Katie wasn't filming anymore. So we knew certain things for sure. Oh, I thought stuff like that just came out after. Okay, okay. Then resend it. So if you want to test my knowledge, feel free. I can prove everything I'm saying.

48:29So then we hear the infamous disguised voice on the phone. Like the Jerry Springer voice. It's probably Matt Janela and like a mustache. So everyone's online. It's like, that's Slade. It's totally Slade. So yeah, the voice basically is like, I know this. I know that. I think you guys went to Costa Mesa. There is a detail about Costa Mesa. It was like, oh yeah, you filmed at a restaurant in Costa Mesa. They're like, Costa Mesa, he knows everything now. But yeah, this person did no details, specific details about the shooting. And then the producers are like cross-cutting between what this person's saying and actual scenes that happened.

49:10It was like the end of the usual suspects. It's like, I'm expecting, you know, Tamra to like lose a limp and go walking off into the sunset after this scene. They're all just like shocked. And it's like, oh my God. Like Tamara is getting away with leaking info Get holding Katie accountable For doing the exact same thing So the first thing I'm going to do Is not call Katie and apologize to her So one thing I want to point out That we didn't mention Is in Slade and Gretchen's thing One of the last things he said in that scene Is I'm going to get to the bottom of where they came from And I'm going to find out who's the owner Of this freaking page So I think Slade has a lot to do with this What's going on here at the end because this totally seems like revenge because Slade could have called whoever this person is and told them all of those details too.

49:57You know? But that said, I 100 % believe that Tamara was doing this. So I believe that Tamara does it. I think a lot of them do it. I think Tamara's been guilty of this for years and everybody knows it. She got caught in that, she got caught in one of these things with that blonde hair, blue, black heart Twitter guy who, you know, she was fighting with him over stuff that she had told him and then he turned against her. I mean, she's been having this problem with bloggers and stuff for years. So I 100 % believe this about Tamara. However, none of this matters. It's not what we're talking about.

50:33The point is Gretchen. The point is Gretchen's posts. And now they're all making it that Tamara has been talking. Who cares? We know that Tamara talks to bloggers. We've known it for years. It's a well-known out of the closet. It's not a secret. Gretchen still liked those posts. So now what are you guys saying? Are you saying that Gretchen faked all of this? I want to hear you say it. No, I don't. I actually, to me, I didn't see this as like anything that like negates what Gretchen did. I think it's just showing that like it's saying, you know, Tamara is fucking messy also. And that they, I feel like it's a weird, like a weird resolution for Katie.

51:08Honestly, I think it was their way of saying like, look at what Tamara does too. Now tune in next week for the reunion. I think that's kind of what it was. it was like a little something to queue up the reunion. Be like, let's get it to her girls. Okay, so you don't think it had anything to do with getting Gretchen and Slade off? Off the hook, I mean. Off. Although it did probably get him off watching Tamara finally get hurt at the end. I really liked your theory that you said earlier, because of course I didn't think of it. It didn't even occur to me. But I liked your conspiracy theory that the producers were angry that Tamara brought this onto the show.

51:44So the revenge is that they're going to expose Tamara for being, for leaking to the press. I think that's like a pretty good, you know, conspiracy theory, uh, BTS, but, um, I didn't, but it did not, the scene, regardless of that theory, regardless, I don't think the scene read to me as a, you know what? Like we shouldn't, we shouldn't be, uh, let me start over again. This, the scene did not read to me like it was exonerating Gretchen. And it just read to me like, you know what? Tamara is acting high and mighty, but she's also down there in the dirt. Okay. Well, they sure get Tamara at the end of this.

52:26Although I will point out, just to be fair, there is no proof except this one person's word. Where's the screenshots? Where's the text? Where's the DMs? So I don't know. I believe that Tamara did it. Heather gets so mad at you. Heather gets so mad at you that you messed up her line. Well, Heather doesn't even bring them. Heather's the one who made up the whole receipts proof timeline and she has none of that in Salt Lake City. But we'll get to that. We'll get to that next week. I think I would like going forward, and I said this at the end of the Salt Lake City recap, I think that Bravo needs to rein in some of this, like, who leaked what to the press.

53:05I just don't think this is the most compelling content. And I think it's actually a little toxic for these shows. Salt Lake City is fine because Salt Lake City is so funny. They can argue about anything, but I think it gets away from the central premise of what watching a real housewife show is about. We want it to be about dynamics amongst the women. And yes, of course, arguing about who leaked what does bring out those dynamics. But I just think it's too much stuff about stuff that happens in between seasons and off camera. And I don't think it's a good move. I think it was bad when it happened on Beverly Hills.

53:39I think it's bad when it's happening now. I think it puts Salt Lake City in a risky position. so i think going forward i would love it if bravo kind of when these things happen bravo says we're not talking we're not fighting about that it's too abstract or have like a zero you know have like a zero tolerance thing where if you're caught doing it you're fired yeah and that's it you know like do something to put a stop to it instead of leaning into it and making it a plot line on every single show because i think you're right it's like enough enough yeah it's too like like The best parts of the show is when we see someone say something or do something about their life or whatever, and then people react to it, and it becomes a thing.

54:23The most compelling seasons are when a friend stops being friends with someone else and starts being friends with someone else, and we weigh in on why did that friendship fall apart? Or, oh, this person's not treating this person well. But to kind of like every week have to weigh in on who leaked what did they leak, are we on their side? It's actually a bit tiresome for me. Like it's not, it's not a, it's not a debate that I fundamentally care about. I actually don't care who leaked what, because ultimately I think they all leak. I think they all say things and I don't like, I'm sort of sick of having to guess whether or not did maybe Katie said it as like, she didn't think it was a big deal.

54:57Or maybe she said it like this and was misheard this. Like how many times I have to talk about a game of telephone? Like, I think it's time for Bravo to definitely like tighten up this ship across, across the board on all their shows. I agree. just to play devil's advocate though the social media has been another character on this show for years. I mean we even have a character on this show named Sushal Medea because before they could say Twitter and all of that they would say you know we heard this from somewhere or someone and so we would always say and now the bitchiest housewife of all time Sushal Medea comes to the stage because it was always a character on the show like what you got caught saying about on whatever they didn't even allow them to say twitter or whatever forever and then once they started allowing it it made it it was kind of cool at first because it was like oh now they're calling it's like behind the scenes stuff where it's like okay now they're calling themselves out about the tv show stuff which is interesting i think that brought a really interesting dynamic but it's yeah i think it's gotten to the point where it's just like it's the whole show now it's every plot on every show is like who's talking to some fucking loser on twitter you know yeah and And like, I don't mind if there's drama that - No offense, people from Twitter, not calling you losers, but you know what I mean.

56:12Yeah, but like, you know, if someone, if Whitney Rose goes and writes a tweet that's obnoxious, let's say, and then Lisa Barlow sees it and gets annoyed at her, that's fair, like, because that's, you know, social media, we live in a world with social media. We participate in social media and that's, you know, but we can see tangibly that Whitney wrote something, Lisa read it, she was upset and she reacted. And that like, that is a dramatic stake that makes sense to us. But if it's all like you spoke to someone and then they said this thing about a thing and I can't believe you said that, it's just, it's too, it's too in the shadows and it's also too much about the show itself.

56:50And I just don't, I don't, it's just not compelling to me anymore. I'm a little over it. That being said, by the way, I love this season. Everyone hates this season. I love this season. Even with this dark ass finale, I thought this season was great. I was actually very much into it. I thought it lost theme after Katie left, but I still really enjoyed it. And, and I'm hopeful that it is our swan song for Emily and Regina. I think it's going to have to be a swan song for a lot of these people. I don't see how Gretchen is going to come back from this. I don't see how Tamara is going to come back from this.

57:25You know, I don't see them getting rid of Tamara, but I don't also, I also don't see how they're going to keep her after this. I think Emily and Gina are just done. Heather didn't even bother pretending to live in Orange County. And her end card said she's not even going to try. It's like she ain't going to come back to Orange County. So that's two hours away. I mean, that's not like so close drive. It's not like just being in a suburb. That's another city. It's far away. So I think we start with Emily and Gina. And then we see how the rest of the show fares with them. That's what I'm, that's, those are my notes.

58:03I understand that Heather lives in Beverly Hills, but she, look, she attended, she showed up. Tamara, I think is our villain. I think we keep Tamara. We don't get rid of our villains. Otherwise you wind up with a Heather and Gina situation again. Shannon, I would like to see less wackiness season, but like Shannon, you know, you always keep Shannon. She's always gonna have something going on. And I think they bring back Katie. I think they will bring it back. Katie is such a fan favorite that they bring back Katie. Gretchen not coming back for sure. I don't think they can bring back Gretchen. And I don't know.

58:33Maybe they'll give Lydia another shot. Lydia. Oh, God. That's all we need. Maybe Peggy Tannis. Oh, God. That's all we need is more of that. But yeah. Well, I mean, I guess, look, I just have to finish this season by just giving a nice solid fuck you to Gretchen. Fuck off, Gretchen.

58:57All right. Thanks everybody for being with us this season of real housewives of orange County. We will of course be back for the three part reunion extravaganza to see what bullshit they're going to try and make stick to the wall this time. We will talk to you next week, everybody. Thanks for being here. Bye. Watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alison King. It's always a party on Alison block. Our way is the Amber way. It's the foster and the furious. It's Amanda Foster. It's Always Automatic with Ashley Otto. Put your hands together for Carly Clapp.

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