#3078 Crappy Hour 11/17/25: BravoCon Breakdown With Two Judgey Girls

0:20This episode was brought to you by Virgin Voyages. well hello and welcome to crappy hour this is monday november 17th i'm ronnie and that's ben over there hello man hi ronnie how's it going good how are you how's everything going today it's going so well it's like i feel like everything for the past four days was like a fever dream did Did any of that really happen? How are you feeling? Yes. We just got back from BravoCon, a four-day whirlwind through that fever dream. My God, that was crazy. We had a really good time. But, of course, probably like everybody who came back today, we are wrecked.

1:06We are busted. I'm spent. I need rehab. I need therapy. I need therapy. It was a lot more. This time we were on a panel. We did the Next Gen NYC panel, which was the final panel of the whole weekend. And it was fun. You know, it was cool talking to the kids and stuff like that and getting to do our first panel. But we also got to get a lot closer to a lot of the people on Bravo than I was expecting. And we really didn't even have to go up to some of these people and say anything. I was surprised how many of them listened to the show. And I think one of the things I heard the most this weekend was the phrase, why do you hate me?

1:45It was a lot of that. It was a lot of soothing nerves and then promising to still diss your ass tomorrow, which he knows what's going to happen because that's us, you know. But it was great. How did you feel about the whole thing? Oh, my God. I had the best time. My first BravoCon, I didn't know what to expect. I didn't understand the lay of the land. And it was just sort of like a whirlwind of Bravo stars. We also had our friends who were podcasters or content creators that were there. And so it was like this, there's so much was going on. We did some radio shows and it was like, it was like we had through a party.

2:26We threw a dinner. It was like everything. It was like, it was so much. And I loved it. I loved every, every ounce of it. And like you said, what was actually so funny was that like, I was like a little slightly apprehensive that some Bravo stars would come up to me and be like angry at us. But what would happen was that we got a lot of people who were like, I know you hate me, but I think you're really funny. And it was almost like they were scared of us. It's like that nature thing. Like when you see an animal, like you see a bee and your mom says, it's more scared of you than you are of it.

2:55That's kind of how I felt about the Bravo stars sometimes. Yeah, it was weird. I figured people who were meaner to, you know, like the Emily Simpsons and the Joao's, you know, people like that, I figure would just avoid us like the plague. But they didn't. They came right up and they were like, well, you know, they kind of stated their case. So there was a lot of that. And then there was a lot of promising like, you know, my reaction, my reaction was basically like, look, this is a comedy show. It's not made for you guys. We're making fun of you. You could be perfect and we're still going to rag on your ass and we're still going to rag on your ass tomorrow.

3:29But nice to meet you. You know, hugs. But it was really cool meeting so many people. So thank you to everybody over there who was so kind to us. But beyond the Bravo, the Bravo liberties and stuff, it was so great to meet so many of you. We had a big meetup. We had like 350 people there. And that was super fun. So we hugged a lot of you guys, which was great. And the best part of the whole weekend was, you know, for us, this is like when you go to a work conference and you see all the people that you work with or that you work in the same field as. And so we got to hang out with some of our besties in there.

4:02You know, Ryan was there. Ryan Bailey was there. Danny Pellegrino, Michelle Collins, Brian What's-His-Buns from Vulture. I'm sorry, I'm just old. Brian Moylan, the two judgy girls, obviously, Courtney and Mary, and then Ceci and Angela, who we love. We went to a Bravo Creator meetup the first night hosted by the Prima Donald. So thanks for letting us into that one. and met so many creators there. And it was really fun. But to break this all down, Ben and I, you know, can talk for hours and we probably will all week. But we wanted to bring our friends on to talk about it with us because what better way to discuss it than with friends?

4:40Am I right? So let's welcome to the stage the two judgiest judgy girls, Mary and Courtney from Two Judgy Girls. Hi, guys. Hi. Oh, my God. This is so fun. i love that everyone has like a bit of a horse voice right now because it's like mary and i were laughing yesterday we got in a cab and we're like yeah we're off to do some interviews and the guy's like you want to practice on me and i said not to be rude i don't i'm trying to conserve my voice and then he just talked the whole time and i was like this went the opposite direction but i think a horse voice is an indication of a strong weekend for sure yeah i woke up like every morning sounding like Bea Arthur.

5:21It was really insane. It was like, hello there. It's really because there's so much at their parties, and there's music playing, and you're just shouting, and you don't realize how much you're shouting until you get home, and you do sound like Lisa Barlow. I love that. Mary, how are you holding up? I mean, you guys all flew out this morning. I got to fly out last night, so I feel like I'm going to be a day ahead of you. Okay. You know? You got a little rest. Yeah, but you also have a newborn. I didn't get it. I woke up at 530 in the morning. Yeah. To a baby. You had a day ahead, but you had to go back to full-time mothering.

6:01So I don't know that you had it easier. Mary, what do you prefer, waking up next to me or waking up next to your baby? That's really a trade-off. I will say, I woke up every morning. I was like, what is that noise? I'm like, oh, my God, she's pumping.

6:18Yeah. This is just our new normal now, and I kind of love it. Like, it's great. Is it like an electric machine that's just like, oh, is that what it is? Yes. It's disgusting. I love it. I'm going to get one. Okay, so what are your general thoughts? Like, how did the weekend go for you? Should we talk about, like, who we met or stories? How do you guys want to do it? Yeah. I mean, overall, I thought that with the weekend, like I said, I didn't know what to expect on it. I thought I'm an exhausted, a grateful exhausted. I thought it was so amazing. There were so many people, like you guys said, we had so many Bravo Leopardy's.

6:58We met so many fans. And you guys were saying in the beginning, like you were worried about people, like they were going to, like if they were going to talk to you or not because they were feeling mean. I felt like all the Bravo Leopardy's were very gracious throughout the weekend. Now, granted, I think they should probably just be nice in general, but they didn't have to be as nice as they were. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, that's how I felt, too. I was shocked, actually. I was expecting to get slapped. What kind of gossip did you hear from people over there? I'll start. I heard the two pieces that I heard from multiple people.

7:31This isn't like huge gossip, but just the general vibe of people. is that Whitney from Salt Lake City was just shit-faced the entire weekend. I didn't hear from anyone who said that that woman was sober even for five minutes. So she apparently made an ass out of herself all weekend, which I felt kind of bad for. Like, it's not surprising, but Ben and I were talking about how, oh, you wait until Heather's mad at you because that will be your storyline. She will have you be the alcoholic. Yeah, I witnessed it firsthand. I witnessed Whitney Rose drunk firsthand. And I landed my flight in from L.A.

8:09I landed at the exact same time. I know I've told like many people I like I like really bragged about this a lot over the weekend. I was like, guys, my flight landed at the same time. This is your claim to fame of the weekend. This is my I'm like, guys, I have the adjacent. I have said it a lot. But for people who haven't heard, like literally, if you guys saw on Instagram, there was these videos of Brittany singing on a plane and all that. That flight landed at the same time as my flight. and I like walked off at the same time. I walked into the airport as Brittany was walking in. I was like, oh my God.

8:41That was the first of about five different times I met Brittany over the weekend and each time she didn't remember, she's like, hi, how are you? Did she have the unicorn each time? I think she had the unicorn four out of five times. She carried that thing the whole trip for sure. You know, we got it, Britt. Like it's not the bunny. Yeah. So Ben saw them. yeah and so I I encountered uh Whitney and Heather I went to the bathroom when I came out the bathroom Whitney and Heather were coming out of the bathroom at the exact same time and and Heather was just kind of like propping up Whitney uh Whitney was not like she wasn't gonna like fall over but she was like steady enough unsteady enough that like Heather just sort of had an arm around her and so I said hi to Heather I was like hey Heather it's Ben from Watcher Crap and she goes I know who you are Ben Mandelker how are you um first and last name yeah she said the full as she said the full name yeah uh but Whitney um I told Whitney I told them both I was like oh we're having a party on Saturday night that was when I still had an illusion that any bravo celebrity would ever come to our party instead of like hanging out at the four seasons so uh Whitney was like DM me DM me and she was so drunk and she like grabbed my arms and he goes, I'm coming.

9:55DM me. And I was like, okay. And I DM'd her. She never even read it. God bless. The thought that counts. That's fantastic. So Heather told Ben something like, well, I guess Ronnie's not going to gamble with me next time because we got into like a little thing where she wanted us to change a nomination because she didn't like Monica was nominated for the crappies. So whatever, we got in some stupid spat. But to me, it's not a spat. She just got mad at us or whatever. And I figured, you know, that would blow over. So I saw her and I was like, okay, I'll go make peace. So I went up to her and I said hi.

10:30And I said, Ben said you hated me. And I don't hate you. Which I never said. I never said that. I was paraphrasing. I was paraphrasing. I was taking the general idea. And she said, no, I didn't say that. I just said you wouldn't gamble with me anymore. And I said, no, I'll still gamble with you. But you need to pick a less stupid game. Because she plays, I think she likes pie gout, which is really hard. It's like really hard to learn the rules to this game. I lost so much money and I was like, this is stupid. Let's just make peace. So we made peace and hugged, but then she walked away really fast.

10:59And I was like, I don't know. I don't know if we meant that, but it felt good because I don't like being in stupid spats, especially with, I don't know, someone on the TV. Right. I have their characters to us. I know they're real people. They're characters. Yeah, it feels weird. So for years, who'd you guys see? I want to say, I think it's okay. I just one last button on this because they were the ones who suggested that we should like Heather was the one who said we should do a picture. So like that felt like a. You were there. My interaction was very positive with her. So maybe she was concerned about where she stood with you.

11:34I'm not sure. I don't know. I don't know. I think we'll just see. We'll see. I felt like it's a few. Yeah, I think when people are like, I think it's fine. It's not really even a feud. And it's stupid that I even said anything about it. The only reason I even said anything in the first place was because she unfollowed us both. And so people noticed and were asking. And I was on here one night and, of course, opened my big mouth. I was like, oh, shut up, Heather. You know, I did that whole thing. But I wouldn't have even mentioned it. And it's just stupid to have a spat. And I don't like these bloggers spatting with everybody anyway.

12:03And I don't want to be one of them. So I was like, let's just make up. I feel fine. Even if she still hates me, who cares? She's a lady on my TV. So how about you guys? What were your personal interactions like? i mean my goal of the weekend was to have a sig with lou that was literally i put it out in the universe and i did get to interview her on the like creator carpet on sunday and i didn't have a sig on me but i mean we did a fake like so that's all that counts again you know

12:37i also i so i ran into shep twice and the first time he gave me a hug and i've hung out with him in san francisco and um i was like i don't know if he knew who i was and then i got deeply offended that he didn't know who i was and i was unsure if he knew who i was and then i were mary give the give like where it was happening that him and Austin had just done a panel on that outside stage and they came down to take pictures with people and there were like hundreds of girls trying to take their photos. Mary had like big sunglasses on. And so I think she said something and it didn't register with him.

13:18It wasn't to like that. He didn't remember her. I think he just was like glossed over. So I didn't want her to get it. It made me feel forgettable. and then luckily I ran into him luckily I ran into him in the hallway and I was like I don't think you know who I was yesterday redemption no I remember and he's like and you posted a bad photo of me um and then we took a photo and Courtney got it where my eyes are closed and she posted that photo which he reposted so he looks good in it so how was a way there i did realize it is a live photo because when i posted our our recap of the people that we met it did show your eyes open so i can i'll change it mary i'll make sure that you have it i will apologize i had one second to take it we were like it was like no pictures and i'm like no way someone just put csbs put those poor bravo libs this is the best moment of their lives but we're all there converging on these people yeah you know we're converging on these people we all talk shit in some way shape or form and then we get there and we're like hi and we're like oh well I feel bad because I think well I wonder why haven't you seen the people posting like oh you know so-and-so brushed me off or like so-and-so was rude to me and i was like i don't think that that's they're not trying to be and this is not me defending bravo liberties but we've seen some of their schedules for the weekend like they are literally go go go and i'm like i feel like people are finding them just at the time where they're like disassociating because i will tell you at one point i was standing there at the end of the day and i was like the lights are on nobody is home right now like you ronnie even yesterday you said you need to go take an app i was like i do yeah we were like hey let's have a let's have an end of trip dinner and you're like yeah i can't wait let's just go hang out and just relax i said do you have nap face you need to get your ass to a bed because and i did i said we didn't we did have dinner we had like a casual dinner and then just crashed out well you don't know what happened afterwards ronnie which is that so ronnie and i went and had a dinner with asia and hannah from below deck as well as our friend kimberly and And we're like, we're just going to have like a nice chill, relaxing dinner, wind down, share some stories, just easy.

15:45And that's what we did. It was like just nice. It was lovely. It was just a lovely way to spend like Sunday night. And then we were like, when we walked into the casino, into Mandalay Bay. And then we're like, Aisha and some of her friends came to meet up. And then like we sort of like split. Some people went to go gamble. And then the rest of us went. There's like a little bar to go. Like, let's get a drink. drink and this bar had a dance floor and then all of a sudden Asia's like oh yes this is my gym and next thing you know we're on the dance floor Asia is like twerking on me and I'm like wait how am I on a dance floor right now this is this crazy and then I was like well let me see what time my flight is tomorrow I was like I have to wake up at six in the morning and I'm suddenly dancing on my chill night what is going on and I was like I have to go I have to go I have to go and I like chugged my drink and I was like bye Asia bye everyone I didn't even say bye I was like I couldn't I didn't know where you were ronnie i was like i'm going home but i just want to let you know ronnie 10 minutes and i came back in there and i was like oh hell no why would they go in there it was like a it was like a dinner cruise everybody in their like weird skirts dancing to like brick house it was like get me it was like all the riggers fans had converged a sunday in vegas is always scary you know like you don't want to be there on the sunday yeah it was weird well because there was like a fan you know i guess in vegas what happens is that with all the conventions and events there's always like this turnover so like all weekend long it's like people in t-shirts that have countess luann's face on it's like countess luann countess luann clip clip you know all these phrases and then all of a sudden sunday afternoon it's just like a sea of raiders fans because monday night football is cowboys and it was cowboys yeah so you had this strange like pivot to football and i was like i don't know if i can deal with this right now and i say this as someone who likes football yeah it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial

17:41the other thing i heard consistently was that rachel zo wasn't very nice to people and not not us but the other bravo lebs were saying that um really i don't i don't know if any of us met her i saw her pass by but i didn't say anything to her but um i heard that i heard that whitney was wasted um i can also asking about like hair i can also see like rachel like she was she's never been an ensemble cast and like she was the star so maybe she's having trouble like sharing the spotlight i could see that she also lives in a world of real celebrities and so now you have all these bravo celebrities doing like celebrity cosplay and like one of the weird mind fucks of the weekend is that all the bravo leberties suddenly become a-listers and then all of us we get to be we get we we move up to the level of reality star fam so we're we are the new d-listers and so but they get to be a-listers but rachel's always like but no i actually interact with a-listers like i this is not she's got to get over that because now she's one of them you know And like we were saying the whole weekend, we're like the, all the Bravo celebrities are, they're the Beatles for the weekend.

18:50Like we were in the VIP at one point, um, on the first day and Amira from next gen came out. And I don't know if you guys had gone in there, but they had basically like maybe like three different entrances that people were coming from the green rooms and they take three steps out. And I mean, I'm not kidding when I say mobbed, like you see people sprinting and I'm like, what is happening? And then they're just surround. So like, they just surrounded her and then just started chanting next gen, next gen. And I was like, I, I don't know what to do with this info, you know? And then Amira, who is obviously like, it's her first time at this problem.

19:24So she, I'm sure that's her first time on the floor at that point too. Cause that was on a Friday. I'm like, Oh no. Courtney, Courtney at one point you had like, um, you were helping the next gen people. Like at the one point, gathering brooks and ariana on the creator carpet they're like what do we do like after we had interviewed them they're like so what do we do i'm like what do you mean like what do we do on this carpet i'm like oh you just like go to the next room like do you not have a handler they're like no so then i saw them standing i was like let me get i felt like i was their mom like i was meredith mark sing it right now like let me take you to someone like if you need help please come to me so they're like thank you so much they like couldn't have been nicer but i felt like very like maternal and like protective over them at one point i did too because we did their panel and And I felt the same way.

20:06Like some of the questions I just felt mean asking. And then they, you know, you can tell they feel bad. And I'm like, it's okay, honey. You know, like, come here. You know, you just want to like hug them. And it is interesting how to see the backstage stuff, how Bravo treats different tiers of their stars. Tell us more. Next Gen is new, so they don't have the handlers. Whereas some of the blow deck people who have been there forever have people literally carrying their shoes and carrying their makeup. And like, do you want this? Do you want that? and they're like running around them like i won't look you in the eye you know treating them like they're jennifer lopez and then the next gen kids they're just like all right get out there do your thing yeah you know it's like your audition or whatever tell me about charlie tell me about charlie charlie was uh very aloof he i mean he was i mean he said some something nice backstage i don't remember what he said to us he was like he's like good job good job with him he like complimented us he's like you guys did a good job and that's the big compliment coming from charlie I think if he says good job.

21:02Yeah. I mean, he was just doing his brat pack from the eighties thing where he's like, I'm going to wear sunglasses and I'm above it. And like, he's slink. He sat in his chair like this the whole time. It's like, I'm Charlie. I was like, babe. You brought up Lindsay Lohan. He's like, Oh yeah, that was high school. It's like, okay, Charlie, not to be rude. She's a star. Now I do want to comment that there's a very large age difference between the two of them, but I'm like, use that as your claim to fame but also before we start like i just also want to just give you guys the biggest props because you hosted your first panel it was the last one of the weekend you absolutely killed it like the crowd while people watch that show the crowd was for you guys like everybody there could not have been more excited to see you like i heard people talking about it like when is ben and ronnie's panel like where what stage is it at like they were so excited to see your success so i just want to like shout that out that like you guys everyone was so nice to us we had so much fun at that thing there were so many people there it was crazy to walk out and see so many people and you know i'm not kidding the crowd was for you guys like everyone whispering around me we're just like oh my and they were just so proud of you me too but you know what i mean like everyone was really very happy to see you thank you we've we've been getting so much love from like top to bottom people at bravo people in the audience um random people have have messaged us and have been so complimentary rachel roy came right up to us and was like you guys did such a good job congratulations oh you were so wonderful and you know what i said what's your name and she said oh she said i'm rachel i'm ava's mom i said oh my god you look so different i said you're so pretty and real but you know it's like you're seeing this model and she just had her hair up in a baseball cap so i don't recognize anybody out of glam darling who would be at least you didn't say becky you know i know because of course that's the first thing i was like becky what would be your dream um cast panel for next bravo con oh miami was lit and kiki had miami and she was like oh my god you guys you know you could just tell she was like okay ladies sit down i mean I would love that.

23:17I think I was interviewing Kiki and Sonia Morgan kept on coming into the interview and interrupting it. And then Kiki literally started interviewing Sonia for me. Like that is the chaos of the red carpet at BravoCon. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, I would love Salt Lake City. Yeah, sorry. No, no, no. Go on. I would say Salt Lake City would be great. I just also want to say like that experience of walking out onto that stage. we were they actually put us on like the big stage which was cool for people who weren't there there's like the big stage which is the gold stage then there's like the bravo verse stage which i i don't think i actually went into that room and then there was like a smaller stage that was in like the bazaar and they put us on the big one and you know we were like i've been in that room and i've seen that that room is big but it's like when you come around that corner and you're up there on the stage and you look out it's massive it's like a full-on convention room and there's just chairs just go and like you know like we've played some nice sized places over the past year over the past years but like this one you just sort of it just felt like just went it just kept on like a football field i was like oh my god this is huge it was crazy and it was just and we had a little earpiece in and there's a teleprompter it was it was wild it was really wild yeah thank you to everyone who showed it but it was just you guys just absolutely killed it and i think too is having that last panel of the weekend that's a tough spot to be in right Because that's the last spot.

24:43People are tired. But the crowd, I still feel, I know you said that you couldn't really hear the crowd that much, but the crowd was like electric for you guys. And to have the last panel. The crowd was amazing. Yeah, the crowd was really great. And Meredith Mark showed up too. The kids are just like they're all filming a film, you know, where they're like, hey, like they'll answer like this. You know, they're just very natural. And you ask them something and they're like, well, here's how I feel about it. Hey, Brooks, how do you, one of the first questions was something like, so brooks do you think you've come more out of your shell this season he's like yeah i've really like he actually had a really funny snarky comment on the panel and i can't remember what it was but i was like oh my i'm like oh maybe he really is kind of coming out of his shell they were that was like a great yeah well he was flaring his eyes they were all mad at charlie and he kept flaring his eyes like he was just about to go off and i kept nodding at him like bring it you know because he was looking he was so pissed but he wouldn't vocalize whatever he was pissed off about so i need to get better maybe maybe if i have more practice i'll know how to be like brooks i think 2027 you guys are gonna have like five panels you guys i think you guys that that was the audition to do more panels like you're gonna be all over it in 2027 well what was really fun to me was that um towards the end you know there's q a from the audience and so the the the directions they gave us was we would alternate back and forth like you know ronnie would say okay you over there on the left and i would say you over there on the right something like that but we'd alternate back and forth so uh ronnie ronnie cued someone in the line and they had this question that was like what's what are your favorite spots in the city to eat at and so then i was supposed to be the next one and they answered i don't know if you notice this ronnie we never talked about this they trickled out their answer and every time i thought they were done another one would say something so like they're so low key so it'd be like lure i really like going to lure and then they'd be like dead air and i'm like okay and then some of the brooks would be like i like pasta house they're like okay and um i like um spumoni's okay and over the left i also like pietro it's like it was like this i was like i was like you guys enough we don't need every single place and you noticed that they just kept on tricking out these answers and i kept on stepping on them because i kept on thinking they were done but they kept on like every single one of them wants to give like a very quiet answer and i was like okay so silly all right well let's talk about some of the gossip that came out of the weekend um porsche this the newest one is that porsche got in trouble on a plane she got in trouble on her flight back tmz uh has reporters waiting at the gate i guess because we see the air marshals escorting her off the plane.

27:30And she's, of course, being escorted off just as you think Portia would be. She's like, love you, love you, like waving to fans. Unbothered. We don't know what happened on that plane yet, I don't think. Have you guys heard? No, but Cara Berry, do you guys follow her? Everybody's business online. Oh, yeah, we love her. She was on threads yesterday, and she said, I have some, like, information about somebody on a flight, and it's not Meredith. and then the fortune and so and i'm like do i need to text her and see but then i was you know i'm gonna wait so when the story came out she just said told you but i was like oh my god well why didn't she tell us what it yeah she should have told everybody not giving it to tmz come on cara give us maybe she made money on that yeah maybe she did tell tmz and that's why they got the footage oh maybe we don't know we don't know guys don't tell us though don't be still i have to i have to run right now but i'm so happy i got to chat for just a little bit um yeah we love you mary we love i love seeing you guys irl and thank you for having me for a bit but i gotta yeah we love seeing you and thanks for coming and spending some time with us and also congrats on your baby Thank you so much.

28:47Okay, we'll talk to you soon, but we're going to keep Courtney, sucka. See you later. Okay. Finally. She's gone. The baby maker's out of here. Thank God. See ya. One thing that I really liked that came out of it was, man, these Bravo viewers, we as a group are messy bitches. All of us are. and someone was videotaping Shep going off in a bar on Craig and Tom. I think it was just straight up at Bravo. It wasn't even at a bar. It was just right there on the floor. It was like one of those bars in Vegas. I think he was talking to the Southern. Yeah. It doesn't even matter. It felt like Bradley was in that.

29:31But you know what's crazy? Because he was bad in 2023, right? And so I'm like, I think people are like, okay, he's like learned his lesson. And then, of course, he has to close out the weekend doing something ridiculous, right? He always. Yes. Like he what's his like he hates. There's a ridiculous amount of hate he has for Paige. And it's like, why? Because she chose like Craig over you. I can't figure out why he hates her so much. You said it. I think that's it. And it's also hatred for Craig. He's always resented Craig since the beginning and undermined Craig. And so the fact that Craig got, I mean, he was going off on both of them, really.

30:07He was saying, if you guys haven't seen this video, it's basically him saying, yeah, Paige, you know, broke up with him on a podcast. Who does that? And, you know, it was a sham the whole time. These two were faking it, and they got millions of, they made millions of dollars. And how many followers did Paige get off of Craig's back? And they were just faking it this whole time to make millions of dollars. I mean, really bitter and really yelling. And everyone was laughing at him. But man, whoever had their phone, I was very proud of them because they held it very stable. And they kept it hidden.

30:43My messy queen, whoever it was. Yeah. It's like, Kara, was that you again? I know. My theory is that, well, Shep has always been jealous on some degree of Craig's success. But I also think that like Shep sees Craig as someone who fails upwards in life. and I think he sees Craig as this nice guy who kind of lies and is slippery with the truth and now he got to be with Paige and they got to somehow be designated as like America's sweethearts for like three years and the entire time Shep is like America's sweethearts but like there's problems in this relationship and like there's inequities or whatever it is and then Craig gets this whole glow up which goes side by side with his sewing down south coming up and you know Shep is thinking Craig is just a figurehead jerry's doing all the work and like you can see that shep is like this is all like there's more to the story than this and i'm the one who gets to be the bad guy and everyone loves craig and he's like loses his mind and now here he is at the end of a probably a weekend of seeing an enormous sewing down south state farm activation that was there and jake with state farm is there doing sewing down south sewing down south state farm and shep probably just can only do so much also a new Ken Burns documentary premiered last night and he probably just was in such an emotional state that he was like I can't even deal do you find like similarities between Shep and then like Lala with Ariana like Shep and Craig, Lala and Ariana because I feel like Lala was stupid well no but like the jealousy of like Ariana and having like kind of something similar like Craig and Shep kind of live similar lives and I feel like Shep is kind of why not me and then like with like Lala and Ariana it was a little bit for Lala like well why not me with like when it happened to me with Randall.

32:25Oh, she kept missing every boat. That was always the running joke with Lala. You know, she wanted the wedding. Someone else got the wedding. She wanted the pregnancy storyline. Someone else got pregnant first. She wanted the breakup. Someone else had the big breakup, you know? So Lala's always kind of, Lala was always kind of getting stood up on her news. Oh, speaking of them, we saw Sandoval. I haven't seen Sandoval in years, but we saw him and we were like, hey i mean i think it's been four years or something since we've seen him right ben yeah four years it's been like four years so we saw him and he was like oh hey guys yeah it's much better this time like people are cool because traders like you know traders gave him the redemption arc and then he just keeps going and he's like you should see my shows bro we've got like such cool stuff now like we've got these video machines and we've got these things called ego risers and they make you look taller it's like badass so anyway what are you guys up to we're like oh we're going to the bazaar you know we just like kind of twirled away but um it was funny seeing he was drunk he was he was he was i mean he wasn't like he wasn't like a disaster but like he was just he was just having a good time his backstage and just like he was like oh my god i'm no longer people like me again i'm celebrating and he was like dude man sometimes started talking about ai he's like dude if you want to make a lot of money why don't you invent the thing that like can detect ai because like that's where like the money is maybe i'll be the one to invent it you know right he's like laughing he's like maybe it'll be me i told him i said there's an ai detector just a little late tom but yeah it's like seriously they should invent it we were dying um what's the drama that happened because they're saying that like lindsey and his girlfriend got in a fight but when i watched the clip it looks like tom and victoria were fighting and lindsey was there like trying to break it up kind of siding with victoria Like, yeah, I'd be pissed, too.

34:17But the main thing was that Victoria is not wearing shoes in Vegas. And that's what I took away from it. Yeah, I just that to me, I was like, no, shoes are needed always. I don't care if you're in socks. You need a pair of shoes, even if it's slippers in Vegas. Yeah. Someone just told us about that. Who was someone last night was telling us? Yeah, they saw Sandoval and his girlfriend and she was all dressed to the nines. And they were coming into the celebrity entrance where all the paparazzi waits and all the fans wait. and they scream for everybody as they come in and all this. And so they were coming in there and Tom tried to do a trick like by lifting her up and throwing her over his shoulder and her ass came out of her dress.

34:54And so he was like, you know, twirling her lady parts all over. And then... She's like one of the dolls on Traders. And then everyone was disgusted with her because she was barefoot. So that's what I heard. I just was like, what a Tom Sandoval story. I mean, he was on what was it on the traders panel that they were like, you know, we've been approached for like the valley. You guys want to see me back on the valley? And the whole crowd booed. And he's like, OK, that's not how I thought it was going to go. Well, the biggest boo, as has been widely reported, and I didn't see this, but Jared Osmond, when he when they asked him to stand up at the panel and apparently like the biggest, biggest, biggest, biggest, biggest boos happened when when he stood up.

35:41which is i was there i love when the bravo community comes together well hold so after so then i was with ryan after that panel because he wanted to get something to eat we come back in and jared's standing there and we're like we like when will we see this person again next week on slc i'm sure but in person so we go up to him and he like he's waiting for people to write he's standing there like waiting for people so and we like don't tell him who we are or whatever we're She's like, oh, my God, Jared, can we get a pic? I saw you guys also got a picture with him, too. Did he tell you why he got Britney the unicorn?

36:15No. But he said Build-A-Bear owes him money. He's like, Build-A-Bear owes me some money because I've given them a lot of press. Yeah. So he was like, well, I buy Build-A-Bears for my kids. And I'm like, okay. And he's like, so I asked Britney, has anybody ever gotten you a Build-A-Bear? And she said, no, nobody's ever. He's like, yeah, because you're 54. yeah like not that you can't have a build-a-bear but like you're telling me how you buy your kids build-a-bears and then you're so then you're like well i must get you a build-a-bear i'm like yeah okay jared yeah like yeah it was just well brittany got a real story right ben because we went that night we saw them out and um britney had just said earlier in the day she had done some panel saying oh yeah we're broken up you know doing her ding ding ding thing britney's just so enamored with herself which is so funny but she's like yeah guys i have an announcement ding ding ding we are finally broken up and that's what she went with but then that night we got a picture with them at the four seasons and then ben made a thing and spread it all around i made a video apparently we called justin and told justin i'm flying to vegas and so he wasn't originally there i guess they were good friends and then he decided i want attention we'll get back together for the weekend yeah and and do you see her post too she posted like this is just for my subscribers on her public instagram page that then put it on threads too and it was like her rubbing jared's arm and singing i'm like this is just like you keep me entertained but your life is chaotic yeah yeah i mean she is like we've mentioned before like seeing her walking around i mean this was definitely her moment she was like i started like looking at the tall build like the tall ceilings and this and that and it's just like you know there was part of me that was very happy for her like sort of like child like step static mental state you know where she was like wow it's like those movies when the farm girl goes to the city so there's part of me that's like you know it's like when bet midler when country bet midler arrives in new york city and big business and she's like wow look at that skyscraper or britney and everything we've ever seen her in and i just feel like she's just like like i don't know i was happy for her but i was like man you are you're a deluded lady you're a real definitely stunted i believe like there's yeah that's stunted yeah i'm not saying something when you're talking about bravo stars you know when you stand out as being stunted girl commercials here comes one right now

38:58so um another big thing that was coming out of the weekend was a fight i never saw coming Oh, I love this. Cy De Silva versus Madison from Southern Charm. I was shocked at this one. So apparently they were doing, Madison was doing a panel, and Austin had a picture of Cy over his face where, you know, she had to describe the picture that was over his forehead, and he had to guess it. So what do you call that game? It's like heads up or whatever, basically, but with Bravo Labs. Yeah, so it was Cy's face, and she's like, oh, I'll tell you, that's the meanest lady I ever met. And Austin was like, oh, yeah, you mean you?

39:36and she said no it's from new york city but she said si is the meanest person she's ever met so si commented on this clip that was posted and it says you must have me confused because not all brown people look alike i never even met her before so then gibson johns got uh actually geordie cray by the way gibson gives him the credit later but geordie cray is the one who found this photo and vanita also by the way weighs in and says before we get to that part but but side of silva says you mix you know you're not all brown people look alike and vanita goes well she's just she's just proving her point lol and i'm assuming what vanita meant by that was like uh si you're proving that madison is correct is that is that what vanita meant by that so i think what happened was that geordie cray then posted a photo of them being on a panel at bravo con two years ago together like sitting or watch what happens live or something and then madison then then like tagged her in something and then they started going off in the dms and then i think was it comments by bravo that picked up somebody picked up and then that's why bravo so that's why i need a comment yeah so the interaction that they have um with comments that comments on bravo put out there which by the way love comments by bravo so much um in this sort of dm that Cy and Madison are having.

40:54Cy's like, listen, girl, leave me alone. I don't know you, and I don't remember sitting next to you two years ago. Madison goes, well, you remember now, bitch. And then Cy responds, I still couldn't pick you out of the lineup. You're extremely unmemorable for laughing emojis. Now, to me, I'm like, you guys are both mean girls, so that's fine. But also, it's like, Cy, you're not doing yourself any favors here. Take the L on this one, And just you could just say, oh, I just didn't remember her. Like, I don't know. I feel like she was trying to, like, make a moment of this and it backfired in both ways.

41:31People get very offended. There were a few people that we talked to, you know, the Bravo Leberties who are like, well, so-and-so didn't even know who I was on the panel. And that bitch doesn't even know me. And this one doesn't even watch my show. Like, they get so upset that they don't know each other. There's hundreds of you, you know, and a lot of them don't watch, you know, like below deck people don't watch Housewives shows. and housewife shows do not watch below deck, you know? And so there was a lot of offense taken in there. And I thought that was so funny. They're just like, how dare you not know who I am?

42:02Did you see Jesse Solomon shade Vicky Gumbelson? What did he say? Jesse Solomon from Summer House. So they said something about Vicky getting her orange back because obviously that was like a big news item of the weekend too, right? I thought it was a surprise, but like she obviously had to know about it. I mean, I thought it was a surprise. I'm so gullible. I was like it was not a surprise at all okay I feel like she's probably called Andy week after week saying I will sign that contract today I will sign it today I will sign it today I feel like it was I don't think she's that good of an actress to be so surprised on stage like maybe she knew it was gonna happen at some point well they have to go through contract negotiations they're not you say it out loud it makes sense but like in my mind I was like she's so surprised married she's like are you kidding me i'm like oh she carried that oratron okay santa is not real court me well okay two things now that i've been told that i didn't know okay but yeah but jesse i guess was like who is she like who is that it's like you were literally here because of vicky yes you don't know who little yeah how dare you just shut your mouth shut your giant mouth jesse okay and also everybody who ran into jesse said what a douche they were like what a douche i didn't hear one person say wow jesse was so nice everybody was like this well west west just posted something let me find it i was like this isn't this isn't newsworthy and then of course now i'm like where is it but west posted something that he re he re uh tweeted someone who was like like i don't know like west is like not spending a lot of time with the fans at all he's like nowhere like he's just like he's clearly in it for the celebrity he's like not backstage he's not hanging out he's not the vip he's like not in it so he he retweets this and he's like wow imagine spending an entire weekend with this like amazing crowd of people and you're just like with all these people just to drive just to fly home and you read this i'm like okay relax sir wait i'm on his side you guys no i'm not saying i'm not saying he's wrong but i'm like like like relax like he's like oh poor it's like once again the guys on summer house they love pulling the poor me card over and over again like if you know you did it like just go on i saw him and i would because i i saw him and i was like west and they were leaving and he's like they're like no he has to go and i was like oh you know courtney blah blah and he's like oh my god and he was so nice and like hugged me like how are you let's take a photo like he was so kind so i just feel like it's such a bummer maybe i just was like lucky to get such good interactions with people but i just feel bad when it is like wow you had like one one bad interaction that like changes the whole trajectory of how somebody's going to view you because they didn't they didn't see you when you're out there yeah so i guess i don't yeah why am i defending them i don't know maybe i'm just no you don't have to i wasn't saying that he i wasn't saying like yeah he was being too cool for school at all i just thought it was so funny that he was pulling the move on twitter i was like come on you're a celebrity don't pull that move one thing that i loved by the way one of my favorite features of of the con is that there's like this via there's like this there's a vip lounge and that's different from the backstage yard but there's a vip lounge where if you have a vip thing a bracelet you can go into it and if you stand outside of that but the entrance there was some weird thing where like out of nowhere a bravo liberty would materialize with like three handlers and they would whisk them down the hall to the stage they had to go to it's like and you never knew where they should they appeared from you just would like turn around and like there was camille grammar and then she would just sort of float by quickly and they wouldn't they weren't able to stop and talk to people because they had to go to their panels but it was like every five minutes like one would pop up and then float by and it was so quick and surreal that you're like wait did that just like did that just happen integration you know yeah and then like jake from state farm jicks from state farm was everywhere everywhere they made that guy work his ass off jake from state his name is kevin i found out oh really it's not even jake like what uh yeah um someone uh court ordered creations is talking about this uh and i heard this a lot this weekend too people were upset because the last bravo con they got to meet a lot of the celebrities because if you go into that vip lounge you know some of them would come out and people would get to talk to them and have a drink with them and stuff and this time they were all hidden pretty much so people felt like they paid for that experience and didn't get to talk to them but i'm wondering if that's just because it got so out of hand because the last time i was i was there because patricia the only reason i went last time is because patricia from southern charm was like i need an escort because the person who was going to go with me isn't going to go and i just need someone to kind of walk me around a couple times or whatever and so i was like of course you know um so i went with her and being with her i I mean, she was sitting on a couch, and Adriana was on the other couch.

46:59So I was talking to Adriana, and someone else was talking to her. When I tell you, and they had security guards surrounding them. When I tell you, people crawled over those couches. They were crawling over them. They would try to distract the security guard and then get around him. I'm like, well, what are you going to do, jumper? Are you going to jump on Patricia? Like, what do you think is going to happen? So I don't know if that's why. Like, they were keeping them more sequestered. sequestered but yeah people were complaining about that a lot yeah yeah yeah it's also hard the the logistics of that space are really difficult like just getting there and getting and there was this rainstorm i didn't i didn't know it could rain in vegas and that saturday we didn't even bother going down to the con because there's so it's so hard to get in and out of there like you think that when they built that convention center that they would make some sort of consideration for like how people would arrive to it and it's like impossible and so gridlocked it's it's crazy that's definitely one of my takeaways is like dealing with the logistics of that place because it was wild also you know it was no it was the most stressful part of the weekend for me were the bracelets that they gave us because they don't they're not these like plastic ones that you get like at a music fair you know it's like there are these um they're like ribbons and they have a little plastic thing and if you can tighten them you can't loosen them and like once you tighten it there's no going back and like i initially tightened it like i was like and then i was like oh shit i can't untighten it and it was like stuck to me all weekend and this morning i finally was able to find someone with scissors like get this thing off of me please look at mine i still have you're still on i tried taking mine off last night at dinner with a steak knife do you see it's all great it's so scary i've looked ridiculous and janky all day but i didn't get it and then i came home and i was so tired i didn't even bother cutting it i just i just slept with it but uh this vicky thing just going back to this vicky thing really quick you've got a show that just had a huge scandal with somebody getting caught with all these transphobic homophobic and basically horrible rape i mean i don't know i'm sure we'll go into it again on the recap and then you bring back vicky gumbleson are you paying attention who is running who is driving the car i mean i know i'm i feel very like after she said like heather doesn't fit in the cast because she's too liberal because she's like an ally to the lgbtqia community i'm like okay now i don't really want you back but then also if i'm like okay if i'm gonna look at you as a character because that's what i have to do to like try to separate the art from the artist if you will Well, Vicky has to come back in some capacity for the 20th season.

49:42And I think it should just be hosting a party in her backyard in the grotto where someone gives her an award for being the OG of the OC. And then she falls down those stairs again. Like, yeah. And then scene cut. That's it. But yeah, I mean, why would you bring back such a bigoted monster? I mean, the woman, the woman is a nutcase and she's a terrible human being. I can't believe they're bringing her back. first this show's in enough trouble you guys need to do some fixing and now they're out on the red carpet and gretchen's gretchen's out there like yeah everybody knew those tweets were a lie because people who knows me know that i'm the biggest supporter of gay and lesbian people and listen i had the first drag queen ever on a housewife show listen we are not your freaking monkeys and pinatas at a child's birthday party like bringing a child bringing a drag queen to a birthday party does not mean you're pro-gay rights, you fucking nutcase.

50:34I can't believe people are falling for her shit. You get a pass for 20 years now because you had that in 2009. So it's coming up on the renewal. How was she not booed off of the Bravo Con stage? I can't believe she was there and everybody's like fine with whitewashing all of this, but whatever. Have fun, Vicky. I'm going to have fun with you back. Yeah. Evil eyes. Speaking of Orange County, Shane Simpson. Did you talk about this? How Shane Simpson came right up to us? Shane Simpson walked right up to us walked right up to us and he put out his arm his hand he goes hey guys I just have to say you guys are so funny what you guys say you guys are so good I was like uh oh because I was like I was trying to avoid um I was trying to avoid Emily and Gina I was avoiding only because I was just on um Gibson's podcast and I had done my my new my new shtick right now is to say hey it's been seven or eight years and emily and gina have not had a single memorable iconic gifable moment and this is an issue and i've said it on crap it's before but i said it on gibson's and he made a clip of it it's been going around and so i was like oh god i basically i'm saying like they should be fired and like who wants like i don't like this is people's employment and now like i don't want to have to come face to face with someone and be like oh my god i said you should be fired from your job well we say it every week i mean the last recap was like screw these people i hate them get rid of them these bigoted idiots i know them fuck emily fuck gino fire them and so he goes hey emily come over here and emily's standing there she's like hey she goes oh god should i hit you should i slap you and i was like i wouldn't blame you if you did and she's like well i mean i get it i mean i've i've listened to it i mean i get it whatever you don't like me fine and i was like well you know we just comment on the show but nothing personal you know she was actually cool shane was she was like a fan he's like you guys are so funny you guys are just so funny like just keep like i'm so impressed with you guys he was actually so effusive and he was like great job you guys i'm so impressed with what the work that you guys do that is so good i was like this is not what i was expecting at all at all but that was most of our interactions this weekend was like okay i've heard it no you hate me but so fun stuff you know don't listen don't listen don't listen it's not for you And that's, we can't just come back and be like, oh, we met, you know, Emily at a buffet.

52:56So we have to be nice now. You know, I was like, oh God, this is going to. Is that where you really met her, Ronnie? Literally at a buffet. Yeah. We were, no, we were at the buffet, the backstage buffet. Oh, I thought you were making a mean joke. No. No. We were there. No, I'm not being mean. It was more of a salad bar. To be fair, it was more of like a salad bar. So we were walking there and they came up. And I also, I want to clarify one thing briefly. Something I said on Kiki and Dorinda's show, which is I was talking about how Abe the Babe called me a fucking asshole. And I was like, yeah, well, I mean, like, I'm like, I'm gonna lose sleep if he calls me a fucking asshole.

53:37I kind of feel like what I didn't really express properly was that, like, it was a totally, like, funny interaction. And that it was like he busted my balls. And, like, it was like a bro. It was like he sort of got it out. he was busting my ball but he was sort of getting something out but like it was like it was fine and it was like ended with laughter and it was like a good interaction and he's like I get what you guys do what else are you going to say to us you know what else are you going to say to us I respect him for doing that no but I'm saying because people were saying like they called like Abe called Ben a fucking asshole and I want to be like well it wasn't like deep like that you know well I went up to the camera too and said I was like hey and she was like motherfucker hey bitch you know and then was but you got to give them at least one motherfucker to get out of their system but overall it was a really go ahead no i was gonna say about tamra is that what's so funny is that uh her her makeup girl was like i listened to every single one of your episodes you guys are so funny i love when you guys do tamra's voice and so like she like someone really close in tamra's orbit knows every single shitty thing we say about her but like tamra's like whatever she loves being no she's got eyes on everyone that tamra judge eyes on everyone she knows what's happening all all at all times like every account every podcast like we were blocked she's unblocked us now i was afraid i was going to run into her at bravo con i didn't she was that was one i was like oh god i'm a little scared about that one yeah she she frightens me because then i also am like would i like actually like her though like when you meet everybody they're just they really are so lovely and so like i feel like when you're talking to them you're like okay now i'm like i just want you to know my opinion of you on the show is not going to change like how you act on the show i'm still going to be discussing but you're a very lovely human being and thank you for the nice conversation well i've always said the ones that i meanest to are probably the ones i would get along best with in real life like kyle makes me crazy on beverly hills she's always made me crazy she triggers me there's something she does every year that just and every year i start fresh but ever it's like that's my biggest one that makes me she just makes me nuts but i probably get along with her great it's just everything's like they're throwing your family under the bus it's the it's everything all the time with her it's a fakery of like queer baiting for two years i mean it's just the whole thing but um i'd probably get along with her great she seems like a really fun girl and tamra seems like a really fun girl she's made me crazy for years too so who knows you know i talked about southern charm i the guys from southern charm on that show i've ripped them to shreds they make me nuts and i think they're great in real life they're all really nice in real life well i don't know shit but austin and um craig are really nice and yeah i i had a i had a really fun conversation with janet i find i i went up to her and i was like i really enjoy you as a as like a very plain villain and she's like thank you so much i really appreciate that i really enjoy being just like a basic villain um but uh that's funny ronnie nick says did you guys get to meet any of the mcb boys oh my god how did i not talk about that okay so we were at a party we're not supposed to talk well nothing really it's a it's a it's a but i saw them yeah yeah galena came right up to us go ahead no i was just gonna explain everyone it was supposed to be a uh like an off the record party so it's like everything is like sphere of safety But this I was to say, but this was not a gossipy moment.

57:04This is just like, oh, we saw some. No, it wasn't gossipy. So Galena came right up to us. And, you know, I love Galena. I love Galena. And she looked beautiful. She was in like a full Russian beauty queen glitter dress, you know. So I talked to her a little while and I saw the boys because they're not very subtle. I mean, the boys, they were in these colored suits. You know, they all had a different colored suit on. And then they wore big, wide brimmed cowboy hats, really nice cowboy hats. And they weren't really the Bravo people ignored them. Like the other people on Bravo just didn't really pay attention to them.

57:34They stood at one table kind of towards the front door the whole time. And no one really talked to them. And that I saw because, you know, I watched them the whole night because I love Jesse McBee. And so Bitch Sesh was there, Danielle and Casey, who are really lovely ladies. So Casey was like, oh, my God, the McBee boys, I'm a stan. I was like, we're the only stans here. Let's go get them. So we went over there and like an idiot, I said, Casey, you do it with your phone. Cause I didn't want people to be juggling phones and I still need to get that picture from her. I should have made her do it with my phone, but we got a picture with Jesse McBee.

58:10Someone told me, maybe it was you, Courtney, someone over the course of the weekend said that there was some sort of like some, some event where they said that, um, when the McBees walked in, they got like the loudest ovation out of everyone like it was there was something where the cheers yeah it was and i was like at bravo con there was something where they walked into something i don't know if it was the panel or if it was like a bravo palooza a fan thing they walked into something and they got the biggest cheers out of everyone and i just went no that means 10 years of mcbee oh my god mcbee dynasty is with us for 10 years now and we're gonna get spin-offs and we're gonna see what that twit is doing down in texas with her friends i don't even remember her name he's got a new girlfriend now so she's gone and the new girlfriend looks exactly like her oh yeah he's got a new girlfriend so don't worry i don't think we'll be going to dallas i i mean the amount of hate you have for the show is i'm like obsessed with it because the fact that you still will watch every episode and do a recap i will probably start to like it my trajectory is a lot of times when i hate something very passionately i somehow start to love it and i like i i hate that that might happen with me with mcb's and what i've always said is it's not that it's about farmers it's just that it's like i think it's just like a really shitty like a like poorly produced show it's me it's like a and e drivel and i just think that like if bravo could like make it like nice make it nice then i could probably get into it but like right now i'm like i have to i have to keep my high my high bravo standards okay because as goes bravo so goes the rest of this country and like the bravo is the last thing standing i think between us and a civilized nation and so we need to preserve it okay we need to have the bravo standards have to apply to every show no exceptions they need truly original over there Whoever does Salt Lake City, get on the McBees, too.

1:00:18Please. Yeah. Please do that. All right. So, God, this has been an hour. Usually we stop this to talk, but we've gone to chat with people here in the waiting room or whatever. But we have chatted so long. Thank you so much for coming to talk to us. We love you, Courtney. I could talk for hours. So thanks for cutting me off. It's amazing. Yeah. This is such a fun weekend. Thanks for having me out. You guys never stop working. Are you like the hardest working guys in Bravo? No, I think Ryan Bailey is probably the hardest working guy. Did you see that guy? He was all over. He drove home last night.

1:00:54And Danny Pellegrino, too. Danny Pellegrino did like five panels. Michelle Collins did like ten. That guy's all over. Yeah, I mean, I think seven. Everybody was fantastic. But Ryan drove home last night from Vegas to be on Jeff Lewis this morning. Yeah, that's wild. Oh, my gosh. Jeff Lewis had a really controversial week, too, at the weekend. Oh, my gosh. gosh, he got in trouble left and right over there. Hecock viewers will not see what happened because they cut that from his panel. We watched it the other day. Oh, really? He made a comment about snap benefits with Monica Garcia. Yeah, he said something like, whatever with that girl.

1:01:29Didn't she get her snap benefits cut off? Yeesh. Yeah. Yikes. I watched that panel, and I like Jeff Lewis for being snarky. See, look at me. I'm going to talk about it. But I like him being snarky, but I felt like he was just being mean. It was like a little just too much. And now it seems like he's also kind of like blaming Andy for it, which is crazy because like you have this show that's going to be coming on Bravo. And instead of like apologizing and being like, look, I shouldn't have said that, whatever. He's like doubling down on it. Just, which I don't feel very just baby. Yeah. Yeah. So Vegas, you know, you got to double down.

1:02:03So you really do. Yeah. Now we all know this show's coming back though. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, I don't, I don't feel like he was supposed to announce that either. Oh, did they not make an official official announcement? I didn't. I mean, Andy confirmed it when Jeff said it, but I didn't see anything. Like, we got Rhode Island. We got a trailer. We got a post about that. I don't recall seeing anything about Jeff's show. So correct me if I'm wrong, anybody in the chat. But I don't remember seeing anything about it after that was confirmed. That's wild. Yeah. Yeah. He got in trouble. Yeah, he got in trouble.

1:02:36He got in trouble. He was like, wow, Jeff Lewis got in trouble. Shocker. Wait, can we give a shout out also to Margaret Josephs? Because Margaret Josephs held, I think, the best party of the weekend. Like, her party was great. She had a great party on Thursday night. She had a giant bowl of caviar. She had a photo booth. She had booze. I mean, of course, the best party beyond the Watcher Crappens party that we threw. I know. I feel like you guys need to have like a minute or two where you just talk about that. Well, that was great. I mean, that was just a lovely time. Like, everyone, like, we thought we were going to get 100 people, and it was just jam-packed.

1:03:14And we estimated it was, like, over 300 people. But, I mean, who knows? But it was just so fun. Everyone came in, and there was ice cream, Jenny's Ice Cream. Shout out Jenny's Ice Cream for hooking us up with all that free ice cream. They were so great to do that, and Beer Park accommodated everyone. That was amazing. That was really, really great. Because there's nothing to do. After the final, like, nighttime, you know, taping happens, there's nothing to do for people. So we were like, let's have a party and like, let's have people come over. So it was awesome that so many people showed up. Thank you to everyone who came by.

1:03:46We know it was like rainy and humid and it was probably super annoying for some people to make that schlep, but we really appreciate you coming to that. But also shout out to my person who invited all of us to her party. Yeah, we appreciate that. And you guys all coming to that and coming here to talk to us and Courtney, you being our friend, hanging out with us and talking to us here. Thank you so much. follow two judgy girls i'm sure you guys already all are check out their podcast and we will be back next time next time we'll do an extra long q a session with you guys to make up for what we missed tonight uh but we sure love you guys we'll talk to you soon bye watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors ain't no thing like alison king it's always a party on alison block our way is the amber way it's the foster and the furious it's amanda foster It's Always Automatic with Ashley Otto Put your hands together for Carly Clapp Get on the right foot with Chrissy Offutt We never miss her call, it's Diane Call Big yay, it's Emily Gauthier Erin McNicholas, she don't miss no trick-a-less Hava Nagila Weber You'll never hide from Heidi Eleanor Jones I go, you go, we all go for Hugo Jamie, she has no less name-y She's our kind of mess, it's Jennifer Messer Sipped some scotch with Jessica Trotch She's our favorite streamer, Caroline Peacock.

1:05:07Kristen the Piston Anderson. Get a bee in your bonnet with Lacey B. Que sera, sera, whatever we'll be, we'll Lauren Sills be. She gets an A from us, it's Lindsay D. Let's give a kisserino to Lisa Lino. Fresh as a daisy, it's Maisie McHenry. We love her on the rocks, it's Melissa Cox. Megan Berg. You can't have a burger without the Berg. This is Livin' with Michelle Vivian. I love-a-ya, Olivia Williamson. She sure is swell. It's Raquel. Yes, we canna. It's Sadana. Cast a spell with Shannon Spellman. Let's share with Sharon Eldridge. Darn skippy, it's tippy. And our super premium sponsors. Make way for AJ Lopez.

1:05:51She's VVIP. It's Amanda V. Can't lose when you're with Amy Baldwin. Somebody get us 10 cc's of Betsy MD. We're taking the gold with Brenda Silva. Let's get real with Caitlin O 'Neill. Put us on a stretcher. It's Charlotte Fletcher. Don't get salty with Christine Pepper. Can't have a meal without the Emily Sides. Who, what, why, where, and Gwen Pentland. Let's go into the woods with Guy Tubbs. Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall. Hail the cork master, the master of the cork, Jennifer Corcoran. We got our wish. It's Jen Plish. She's not harsh. She's Jill Hirsch. My favorite Murdo, Karen McMurdo.

1:06:29She's a total knockout. It's Katie Mannock. We love him madly. It's Kyle Podchadly. In the study with a candlestick, it's Leslie Peacock. G, it's Lisa H. We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder Baron. She's a whiz. It's Liz Sarthy. Always killing it. It's Lo Alkalani. The incredible edible Matthews sisters. She eases our woes. It's Melissa St. Rose. There's a chance of meatballs. It's Rebecca Cloud. Maximum love for Sandy Maximoska. She's the Queen Bee, it's Sarah Lemke. We cannot tell a lie, it's Sarah Talafson. Shannon, out of a cannon, Anthony. Please don't stop, it's Soli and Pop. Let's take off with Tam LaPlane.

1:07:10We're Obsessed Doll with Tessa V. You'll always get the full story with Tori Parsons. She ain't no shrinking Violet Kuchar. We love you guys.