#3084 RHOC S19E20 Part Two: Liked and Loaded

0:22Hi everyone, welcome back. This is part 2 of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part 1 was, well go check in the feed and subscribe. so that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode. So Andy's like, Hey, Tamara, what were your intentions of bringing this to Gina in the first place? And I'm curious, did you think about bringing it to Heather first, who's kind of the most personally affected? Huh, what? Huh? Well, me and Heather have had conversations in the past about her beliefs. And we see unseen footage from the cake party of Tamara saying to Heather, You yourself said three years ago that you had to distance yourself from Gretchen because you know what?

1:00I did not say that to you. Yeah, you did. We were just sitting in Jen's yoga thing in Newport. Tamara, if you ever bring this up again, it will cost you out. I've had enough. Goodbye, Tamara. No, Alfredo. Terrible timing. Terrible. And so this just goes back to the fact that of course they all knew, right? So Tamara's like, well, it wasn't about the post. It's about other stuff. And she's like, no, you sent me the post. Okay, look, you sent it to me while we were in the middle of filming and you sent it to me and I texted you back. I don't want any part of this. And so Heather says, and then you brought up again in front of everyone at the cake party.

1:36And again, it comes up with another flashback. And Tamara's like, you sat down, man. You said I don't want to talk to her. I did not. Because of her political stance and her stance is on gays and lesbians. Do not do that, Tamara. Do not do that. Oh, but that's what Tamara does. Bring it up. Stirring the pot. That's what she does. Stirring the pot. Oh, here lies Shamdor, killed by a pot that fell on my head because it was turned too hard. Well, I felt like you were trying to give it to me, to drop it in my lap or do something with it. And I really didn't want any part of that. And she's probably right.

2:10Tamara's like, Heather, go after her. So Emily is like, well, why did you tell Gina? Because I feel like you put her in an awkward position. Oh, poor Gina. Poor Gina put her in an awkward position. Gina, this is Gina's role. Every single season, people give her something. They give her the ticking time bomb. It's in a box with a bow on it. And she never seems to realize. And it blows up in her face. She goes, what? Oh, my God. Next season, I'm never going to get in the middle of it ever again. It's like a camel complaining about carrying water. That's literally what you were designed to do. It's the only reason Gina still has a job.

2:47It's because she carries everybody's water every fucking season. She's like a drug mule that keeps getting caught. Like, okay, you know what? Now that I've done my time, I'm never going to smuggle drugs back into this country. Like, hey, ma 'am, could you put this up your butt? Okay, sure. Okay. You guys, why do I have diarrhea?

3:07Where were we? Jesus. I'm just like shaking my head. I'm shaking my head so much I can't even follow these notes. So now we're sad for Emily for having to carry this information to camera. Which, by the way, yeah. But by the way, Emily, you were right there in that bed with her when you said to Gina, we've had this information for two weeks and we haven't done anything with it. So, I mean, you guys are just so ridiculous. So Emily's like, but if, you know, why not just bring it up yourself, Tamara? And she's like, why am I getting saying for her liking homophobic stuff? And he's like, you're not.

3:41This is getting gross. This is getting gross. Well, I'm asking you. I'm trying to understand the lead up to it. The lead up to it is that you all had the information. you were all told not to bring it up and Tamara did it anyway because of production and you helped Tamara. So just cop to it. This is crazy. I'm filming a reality show, Emily. I understand that, but I'm saying, okay, then let me explain. Don't talk to me condescending, first of all. Well, don't talk to me condescending. And this is where now the reunion starts to go from like, you know, make rage inducing to now being, back to being funny because they're just swabbling over stupid shit.

4:16So Emily's like, I'm not being condescending at all. I'm asking you a question I feel badly for Gina Oh my god She used my line And as her best friend I felt badly Oh my god She did it again And I felt like She was in a very bad spot Yeah Yeah Why do you have to be Such an asshole all the time I don't know why When she When she screamed that I just Cracked up Why do you have to be An asshole all the time I'm like I want to make that I'm not an asshole all the time You're an asshole And you want to talk about Being an asshole all the time that's you that's you that's yeah and y 'all was poking at me and all i've ever done is oh i know here we go again where was your advocacy when i was stuck in a size 10 susan bender slack what are you talking about you called her shrek for a year oh yeah are we going back to that but also what she's got a podcast Tamara suddenly doesn't want to go back.

5:14Tamara's like, oh, we're going to go back? Oh, just because I got this trick for years. So what? She's been called worse, like, Snufflepuffagus. What? I thought we were past Snufflepuff. Oh, don't bring up my Snufflepuffagus hair. But wait, she's got a podcast on my network. And Shanna's like, well, she separated, didn't she? Well, yeah, I'm not on your network anymore, so stop bringing that up. By the way, you are You're back I love that Tamara's like, yeah, your podcast sucks And it's on my network Don't call me a sweetheart Well, we have to put you back on my network Because when you fall off, it sucks, bitch Yeah, well, this is a problem, Tamara That's not cool to talk about her show tanking Oh, yeah, well, let's talk about who's an asshole right now Let's talk about that Well, guess what, everyone?

6:08I just got a text message, and that's it puts you back on the T2T's in a pod network. What do you think about that, bitch? Okay, but that's not nice. Then don't call me fucking shit like that. What? Call you shit like what? What are you even talking about? And then Gina and Heather at the same time go, But you were the one that called her an asshole. I love Tam and being like, why are you such an asshole? and then say like, why'd you say things like that to me? I was like, oh, good. So good to laugh again. So now they all just start yelling at each other and talking over each other. And Tamara's like, I've always been so nice to you.

6:51I've always been so nice to you. No, you haven't been. You treated me like shit for years. Then I forgave you very recently. Yeah, well, you treat me like shit for years too. I love that now. Tamara, Tamara the queen, I'm like, oh, so we're going to go back in time. That's what she does. She always goes back and then, oh, for years you treated me like shit. For instance, it started in 2018. The time machine is selective. Well, you guys have seen all the episodes from the season, but we didn't send you the aftermath of the Amsterdam dinner. So we wanted you to watch it together. Today's a group for the first time and get your reactions on the other side.

7:30Katie, do you have something to say? Oh, wow. All right. Oh, great. Great. So, okay. So the day after dinner, I hope you guys are all ready for this. This is going to be explosive footage. We captured a car ride to the airport with Jenna, I mean, Jen, Emily, Gina, Tamara, and Heather. And we're going to take a look at five women who are pretty tired and woken up way too early and now have to go to Schiphol Airport. Here we go. So we see the scene again. They're kind of like, well, like, I feel bad because, like, what? like we accused her of something that like we didn't actually have proof of and all this stuff where there was being semi like remorseful about the way the night before ended up and this is Gina saying well I went to the pages of the people and she does follow these accounts but then I went to the polls that she supposedly likes and I can't want I can't find one that she actually liked okay but even even if this was true which it's not because Slade went back and deleted all of her likes but even if this was true she's still following all those accounts who post that shit all the time like why are you guys feeling bad and so tamra's like well they unlike the accounts and emily says well i don't know i mean you can't just sit across from someone and accuse them of doing something without knowing for sure let's just disregard my entire two seasons past with katie it's like china shouldn't you have done this due diligence before you made your Two weeks ago.

8:56Yeah. Two weeks ago. It's like, this is what I can't stand about, Gina. So she sits on this information for two weeks, which is already kind of like, hmm. But like, okay, whatever. I'll let you have your two weeks. I'll let you have your two weeks of processing. And then you do this. You put it out there. And then you're like, but then I decided to look. And she doesn't like anything. Why on God's green earth, you had an entire 10-hour flight from LAX to Amsterdam. damn why did you not get on your laptop once and say hmm maybe i should just before this is a very serious thing when you go on to tv and you're like hey you like homophobic and transphobic shit why did you not do your due diligence before instead of after and this is not a defense of gretchen but this is a like you're not going to make me feel bad for you feel bad you know because you're too like thick to do your research before like get all your ducks in a row before you do you're attacking come on right so she's like yeah but here's the root of the problem like let's not talk about roots please you and gretchen go for tip for tip all the time and i feel like it's all stemming from that and to be honest at this point i want to remove myself too late gina like you still have the sit on your face from when the bomb exploded in your hands um seriously you still Hold up half my fucking cookie in your mouth, Santa Claus, you goddamn robbing motherfucker.

10:24Now get your fat ass back up the chimney and leave me alone. Get out of my house. Or just use the door. Use the door. So Andy is like, okay, Gretchen, how does it feel seeing that there was remorse from Emily, Gina, and Heather? Does that make you feel a little bit better? So Gretchen's like, yeah, I didn't even know. Sharon's like, I mean, we all went to our room last night and we stayed up looking at stuff. I mean, it was, well, actually, I did take a moment to look at the Mackenzie Child sale. That was a very good sale. And I got myself a new picture. But then we looked at the homophobic stuff.

10:55And, you know, it was, you know, you wake up the next day and you say, how did this happen? Well, has anyone since Amsterdam seen any articles or credible sources talking about the post-aggressionist claim to have liked? And Emily's like, no. Yes, the New York Times ran a full, a full. Is this like a full three-day story on it? why do you need a credible story they were there they're printed is this almost like a legal thing does bravo have to kind of present kind of almost like a fair these questions that that sort of that can present a what's the right word does bravo have to ask these questions so that way gretchen does not look like her character's been assassinated or it's like a defamation thing like Like, hey, wait a second.

11:43Like, we're presenting both sides of this situation or a full perspective of the whole situation so that way Gretchen can't turn around and say, hey, I went on your show and I was falsely accused of being a homophobe and it's ruined my entire reputation and now I'm going to sue you, bravo. Do you think maybe that's why they have to sort of like say, wait a second, did anyone, was there any further research? What did you do? Like, they're sort of implicitly advocating for Gretchen in this moment and I wonder if that's almost like they have to. I don't know. I mean, I have no idea. I would doubt it because Bravo is Bravo.

12:17Bravo, Bravo, fucking Bravo. Bravo is Bravo. Bravo is Bravo. So I don't know. But I mean, I don't know. I just think it's funny that now they're all like, oh, my God, we're so sorry, Gretchen, for what we did to you. We maligned you. And Emily's like, well, I searched for it because I was trying to find something legit and I couldn't find anything. Did you not see the post with all the screenshots on it, ma 'am? Or you put those through an AI detector or whatever and see if those were Photoshopped. There's ways to see if things were Photoshopped. They weren't. Spoiler alert. They weren't. To me, your screenshot is not clear in convincing evidence.

12:53Like, I want to see the actual post. Case dismissed. Well, I do remember seeing. I want to see a lie detector test. I do remember seeing that night that there were still live posts up that you had liked. So I hate to rain on everyone's parade, but yeah, these were real. Ha ha ha ha ha Yeah, two days ago there were Yeah, whether intentionally or not They were there Which is why I still love you, Gretchen It's like, what? So Andy's like, well, I'm curious, Katie You weren't there, but you're seeing all this What's your reaction? And she's like, well, it's a little heartbreaking Because I don't stand on that side I'm very pro-LGBTQIA Me too Me too And the camera's like, so much so that you like all the posts Gretchen So Katie's like, and I'm very outward about that and that I don't follow the accounts.

13:44That would be the opposite. I just don't do that. So Andy's like, well, Gretchen, now you're crying because is this your last resort? Yeah, Andy. Because like I said that night, it's not who I am. It's not who I'm lying with. And I just felt like it was such a personal attack on me when all I was trying to do was make a personal attack on a group of people. And Tamara and I made up the day before and I really thought that we were like, Maybe I'll have a chance to move forward and we don't have that chance anymore. And then we need to do it in here. And Tamara's like, okay, whatever. Stop right there, stupid.

14:15Gina, when did I show you that post? It's like, when we was in Orange County. Okay. And so then Gretchen really goes for it. She's like, well, you're not a new tannies. And from my point of view, it felt like it was being plotted and planned. And it brought back memories of naked, wasted. And of course, we're going to get a naked, wasted. and we're going to make her do something stupid and you know what? It's so hard to sit here when someone's plotting against you. And then she does that thing where she can't really move her face, but she tries to stop. She's like, ooh, ooh, ooh. It's so fucked up.

14:49Do you remember? Do you know how traumatized I was by naked waist? I had to go to the hospital, not go to the hospital. It was so difficult for me. I mean, I was basically drunk, not drunk. It was terrible. I'll bring on the tears, Gretchen. Says Tamara, which is hilarious. I mean, they're both doing their biggest, They're doing the biggest things to win over the sympathy of the audience. You know what, Andy? This is life-changing. This is life-destroying. And you brought that up. You brought up the fact that that McKenzie child sale was over a day earlier. And I was on there browsing that website.

15:24I couldn't find a good deal for the life of me. And no one even told me that the sale was over. What are we talking about, by the way? Well, you know what else is life-changing? Saying that I drug somebody. I have business with drugging people I know right I have gotten so many death threats And I've gotten so much shit Because of the stuff that you are out Disseminating Telling other people Disseminating? You think I'm just sticking my hand up Some horse's asshole? No I'm not disseminating anything You are out disseminating You're a disseminator Hey guess what Guess what month comes after November?

16:06Disseminate, oh dear, bro. Okay, you gotta work out. The whole thread has been out for like two years. Shut up, Gerson. As they start yelling at each other, and Emily's like, wait, she's not talking about the Twitter feed. Okay, they're posting them currently because they got them recently. Oh yeah, and they got them for me. Is that what you're saying? I didn't say that, but you can make whatever connection you want. Yeah, you guys are saying that. That's what you're saying. If Tamara is guilty, then what is she guilty of? Making all the tweets? Liking all the tweets? faking all the tweets what is it loving to watch

16:43so gretchen's like every single one of those accounts you are attached to yeah there are accounts out there that are very pro tamra and those are the accounts that are posting the screenshots yeah well those are the accounts that are pro everybody everything's pro for cats up for everyone his accounts i hate me too bitch okay but who cares so if those and i I can't believe this has me sticking up for Tamara. But if Tamara has 20 bloggers out there who are all on Tamara's side and they are going to post shit against Gretchen, they found shit to post that was on Gretchen's own feed. So what are you mad about?

17:19You're mad at the person who found the evidence? You should be more upset at the crime. Fucking dimwits. I can't believe this. So Emily's like, well, I'm just saying it's very suspect. Okay. Well, you know, you should flip through this because look through this dossier because they're linking accounts that they say that you're somehow involved with. And Gretchen's like, yeah, those are all little accounts. And Tamara's the only one following those accounts. And Tamara's like, I'm not spreading anything bad. I'm not. And so Tamara's like, this is slave. This is slave bullshit. Gretchen's like, yeah, it's your little criminal network that you're reaching out to everybody.

17:58I don't have a criminal network, Gretchen. I have a job, bitch. Sure. Do you not ever talk to bloggers? Do you never leak any information about this show ever? And Tim was like, no, what are you talking about? Never in my life. Okay. Okay. Okay, everyone. Come on. All right. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crapins commercial.

18:25Well, about a week after the Amsterdam trip ended, we picked cameras back up to see how everything was processing, and some poor cameraman had to go hang out with Jen, Gina, and Shannon at Jen's house after the cameras went down. Now keep in mind, this was shot on May 9th, 2025, four days after Shannon probably wore a sombrero somewhere and was probably a little bit offensive to Latin Americans. Okay, so this was also before any trailers or episodes had aired. Watch this! After production wrapped Some of the women received DMs From a person with information about the show Which was not yet known To the public So we see this Sheena Oh my god She wishes I'm here Corner The scene in Jen's house So they're talking about Wait a minute Gina goes oh my god The account is back and now it has a different name And Shanna's like well how did you get it Well Emily just sent me a screenshot And they said I know you don't know who I am I'm just someone who wants to expose the tools And Tamara's been leaking details About the entire season So we get this guy With the Chris Samuels voice being like Then I heard that Tamara went to Costa Mesa And checked in To see what the sales were at Bloomingdale's like oh my god he knows everything so so they're showing this to everyone and everyone's just shocked by this we come back and Gina's like this is all about content this is a whole show he leaked our entire show to everyone he knew everything and I felt mad about that so then yeah this person is like saying all the gossip or whatever and Gina is like yeah well like um like clearly uh tamra's trying to make this look like it's a my fault sort of thing but i've got nothing to do with this like that's insane so the tamra's like looking around the reunion set who is this guy who's who is this guy she goes the voice i i don't know who that voice is um i'm wondering is it is it the ghost of james y 'all jones i think he i think he was still alive at that point i think it was i think it was james y 'all jones i mean it's actually kind of an honor that he watched us in his final days of life.

20:50But, you know, I guess he knew everything and, like, wow, I'm actually sort of impressed that Tamara knows James Earl Jones. I don't know James Earl Jones, bitch! His voice is disguised! Can we listen to that again, please? Okay, just roll that back again. I predict that Shannon will be showing up wearing children's clothes on their way to church and Verizon, the best deal in America. I knew it! I knew it! Luke, I am your father. I love him. Did anyone notice that this blogger appeared in the sky as a set of stars? That's quite impressive. All right. Well, you all agreed to do the show and you all agreed to keep everything you shoot confidential.

21:33So please explain how this person knows this. It's not me. It's not me. This is bullshit. This is an ambush. Tamara in that seat. She was like a little puppet. you know like it was like a muppet looking left and right like the way her her body was like herky-jerky left and right i was like i could i swear i could saw little poles holding up her hands so jen's like so you don't talk about anybody you don't talk to bloggers you don't tell information no i don't give away it so let's i don't do that but you don't talk to bloggers have been on this show for what what for how many years we all talk to bloggers we all do it guys right like it's all it's something we all do we all we all took a blood bag we'll talk to bloggers but we want to talk about it, right?

22:13I don't. Heather. I only talk to the Hollywood Reporter in Variety about the various acting roles I land. That's it. I only speak to my own husband when the cameras are rolling. Please, you think I'm going to talk to bloggers? Thank you. So Shannon is like, well, people are finally coming out and they're talking about it. What am I doing? Well, this guy said that you've been doing it for years For years you've been doing it And Tam was like What's your first thing, buddy? Show me the proof Oh yeah, and then when people come after you They go out on social media And they support you And they do that because you supply them With storyline ahead of time So you keep them in the know These crazy storylines that happen None of the good storylines this season were leaked Period Period.

23:12They just weren't. This wasn't leaked and neither was the thing about Katie's whatever or the naked wasted thing. None of that was leaked. So even if she is talking to this and I hate standing up for Tamara. I just see what they're doing. They're just turning this all to make it against Tamara. This stuff is all probably true about Tamara. I would believe it. And normally I would like seeing Tamara get her comeuppance. It's just that this is the price that they're just going to ignore all this other stuff and turn it into this. this making me fucking crazy and i will say like tamra has never leaked anything to us not that i remember i mean we don't really know tamra we don't know her but i'm saying that like i think like we would be someone that she would probably leak to she hasn't leaked to us so there's that then again i guess not a lot of people leak to us now i think about it no why would she leak to us well because we have a podcast you know and like well we went on to her show so you would think that she would be like, well, let me tell you something, guys.

24:09But she hasn't. She never did that. So, you know, that's like, I think, there's a little something in her favor. But Tamara is, she's like, this is bullshit. This is all Slade's friend. And Critch is like, it's not Slade's friend. And Andy's like, but they weren't scenes that she was in, you know? Where she's like, yes. She's like, yes, they were. There were scenes I wasn't in, Tamara. And Tamara's like, show me proof. Show me my rotten bitch. okay so shannon's like well on that call he said something that happened in amsterdam was you were upset that you didn't get asked to go to the upfront so we see unseen footage and um we see we hear this voice he's like uh if you want your monthly plan you can get it cheaper if you just pay in advance and sunday she told my friend that shannon you were mad because you didn't get invited to the upfronts on monday but then you called upper management and threw a fit because you thought you should go.

25:06And Tamara's like, yeah, but we all knew that. Shannon's always threatening people. Well, that was the clincher because how did this guy, I'd just gotten back from Paris the day before. So how did he know that? The call is coming from inside the house. So we see more unseen footage from the car. Shannon's saying, did every single person from the casket invite you to the upfront but me? Did everyone but me? Which I loved because I love the idea of Shannon spiraling because she's not going to the NBC up front. So Shannon. But what about the Love Hotel? I guess, oh, it's fine. I guess maybe I was too hard on Earl the Pearl just because he didn't eat vegetables and now suddenly I can't be in the up front.

25:44Well, I guess so much for me being up front about my desires in a romance. And then we see unseen footage from dinner and she's like, well, I did call it Bravo and I said, well, I just want to know, is there a reason I wasn't asked to do up front? And Tamara's like, you ready to do that badge? He goes, yeah, I did. And they said, no, absolutely not. We'd love you. Okay, but wasn't this unseen footage from dinner where they all were? How is this only Tamara that heard this? This is crazy. Yeah, I agree. So Tamara's like, I didn't do this badge. And Jen goes, but that's the problem. And this is where we now lie.

26:22Like, we don't know. Did you do this? We don't know. She does. And Angie's like, well, why did you guys find this person to be credible on the call in the first place? Well, because he knew things, Andy. He knew that I was cruelly left out of the upfronts. He knew that. And then I called up NBC and I said, see, even James Earl Jones knows I wasn't invited to the upfronts. And he's very upset about it. Very, very upset. So can I come? Can I come, please? What, you think I'm the only person on this cast? Well, it's someone here for sure. And Katie goes, not me. And he's like, well, like, yeah, you exonerated yourself.

26:56And Heather's like, yeah, guess what, Katie? You're clean on this one. and so emily's like well it's just very suspect to me that he knew about a specific setup between these two people and gretchen and the screenshots and the only people that knew about that are the people sitting in this room so gretchen's like it wasn't me it wasn't even me emily's like and i know it wasn't when it wasn't gina she's like yeah hearing the person say and gina's plotting against gretchen it made me feel like you're doing this and now you're like trying to pass the book to me. Why would I do that, bitch? Because the same person texted me.

27:30Oh, sorry. I think Gretchen, you say what I was going to say. Because the same person that texted me said Tamara had been plotting and planning against you for a long time and she didn't know you were coming back to the show. And so Katie is like, well, I want to see the messages. And Andy goes, well, but she didn't know you were coming back to the show. And she goes, no, but he said that it wouldn't be like in the last two weeks. He said he knew. And Tamara's like, it was from you. That's why she goes, nah, yeah, Slade's working overtime. I think that's true. I think it's Slade. I think it's very, very obviously Slade that called that planned this whole thing.

28:07We heard him. I already said this, but we heard him in the finale being like, oh, really? Well, I'm going to call everybody and figure this out. I know exactly this. This is Slade. I'm not falling for this. And I think they all have a feeling it's Slade because of the way they start to cover up right now. So Gretchen's like oh my god you fucking Oh my god you're a fucking Liar you're just mad cause you got Caused like nah I'm not I'm not Mexican And Jenna's like well I'll tell you something Else she said Gina and Jen you were on The call do you also remember That he said when those crank calls were happening Where it said Kelly Dawn So now we go to this Crank call thing and so we see Unseen footage at Jen's house and Jen's Like what was the prank call Well I got prank called and I didn't tell one person about it, not a single person about it, but I got a prank call.

28:56Well, first, I thought it was William Sonoma calling, saying, guess what? Your picture from Mackenzie Childs has arrived and it was just a prank call. And then the second one I said it was Kelly Dodd. I was like, well, maybe she knows where my picture is, so I answered that and it was another prank call. And the next one was from a Nigerian prince. I thought, oh, well, maybe they sent my Mackenzie Childs picture to Nigeria by accident and that was a prank call too. Turns out it's just a lot of prank calls. So she's saying, okay, well, you thought it would be funny, So you gave Heather's number and my number to the prank caller.

29:22And I remember getting this prank call. And Heather's like, oh, I did get that call. I got a call saying Alfredo has fallen down a well. And I said, that's hilarious because I threw Alfredo down a well. Hilarious. And I said, did any of the Nobu plates break when he fell down the well? Can we retrieve those? And then we'll deal with Alfredo later. And then they hung up. on my children's life I've never done this this is fucked up well Heather what do you make about this this I find concerning now the transphobic tweets etc that can go prank calling very very bad it's a continue that they never came out and turned girls inside of the slates here that's all the shit that she's done that's all the shit he's done I'm sorry stop everything anything what what is this thing with the prank calls so shannon got a prank call what was a prank call and then heather got a prank call what was the prank call what does that have to do with anything i'm so confused are they saying that tamra was giving their numbers away so that proves that she was calling bloggers i think that's what they're implying also why did we not have a camera ready to see shannon get prank called because you know that shannon getting prank called is the funniest shit ever you know that she probably is like hello who is this what you're you're you're trapped somewhere.

30:44Someone's, Oh my God, there's someone who's trapped. There's, there's someone who's trapped. We need to save them. Wait a second. This is Ronald Reagan. I thought you had died. Guys, it's Ronald Reagan. This is what an amazing, you're alive. Wait, does anyone know that you're alive? Should I tell anyone? It's just a secret between you and me. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. I'm still dressing like your wife. Tell Nancy I love her. I will say no to drugs. I will do it. I don't understand the prank call thing or why they left that in. That was very confusing. Like, I need to know what? What is happening?

31:19So Tam was like, it was slayed. It's been slayed the whole time. Will it piss me off? Because, like, my name got thrown in there. And, like, I do believe that. Like, I don't play this game. Girl, yes, you do. The only reason your name is in there is because you went and blabbed information and let yourself get used like a moron again. Gina, shut up, Gina. And so Jen's like, oh, so you thought you were being set up by Tamara? She's like, yeah, like I believe that because the only people that knew that we knew about the post, Gretchen, are you and I. That's not true because you said in the finale that Emily knew as well and that you guys had been sitting there for two weeks sitting on this information.

31:56So at least Emily knew about it. And we also know that Heather knew about it because we saw a scene where Tamara was telling Heather about it earlier in the season. You're all liars. You're all fucking liars. You all did it. You're all guilty. Yeah. So Andy's like, well, what's your response? It's bullshit. It's all over social media. I mean, we've gone through a season. And he's like, so she's saying that she feels set up by you. What's your response by her? She should feel set up by slave. No one knew that this whole thing about accusing Gretchen was between the two of you. No, that's not true.

32:34that accusing Gretchen was between the two of you. It's just not true, Emily. You were the third. Tamara's like, 15 fucking years I've been on this show and I've never had this problem. And this, this comes back and guess what? Oh, don't say cut fitness. Guess what? Now all of a sudden Slade's pulling his magic. I know. But Slade wouldn't have known that information because if she didn't know it. Yeah, I didn't even know it. I was ambushed. But wait, the blogger was saying that he knew this information, but he was saying it after it had all happened. So why are we assuming that the blogger knew that information and wasn't saying what he already knew happened because Slade and Gretchen were there?

33:19They're acting like this is some smoking gun, but everybody had shot the show. So by the time they talked to the blogger, everybody on the show already knew what happened the whole season. So if this blogger is lying, he's lying about storylines that have already happened. If they had talked to the blogger at the beginning of the season, it would have been different. But this stuff had already been shot. Everybody already knew this stuff. So this isn't a smoking gun. I'm confusing myself. This must be confusing to listen to. Because I'm like, what the hell? There's no smoking gun. They all knew the plots of the show by the time the blogger was on the phone.

33:51I'd like to add something else, by the way. Some more evidence into this flimsy case that we're all compiling. On finale night, we went out to dinner afterwards. and Tamara, you had a very smug look on your face. In fact, I said you even looked orgasmic and I'm like, excuse me, you're not the one who got a phone call from Ronald Reagan, who's still alive, I'd like to say. And it was like, oh, I got it. I won. And it made all of us comment on it and we felt very uncomfortable, Tamara. Yeah, she was smug because she just outed Gretchen for all of her transphobic posts and she did feel like she won.

34:24Why is that so weird? Well, I think that the thing that I would like to know from Tamara before I end on this, LOL, this reunion's never ending, is to me, you and Gina are good buddies, though I can see how many pages are left in our notes and there's still a lot to go. Oh, wow, wow. So I actually think this kind of comes down to between the two of you, because I know that things have been troubled with Jen and we know where you've been with Shannon, so how do you two move on from this? Because she's saying she felt set up by you in this situation, Tamara. So what America wants to know is, will Tamara and Gina be okay?

35:03Oh, God. You know what? This is so stupid. Gina feels set up every year because she is set up. She's easily used. She just comes in. She punches in. She takes that money and leaves. Okay? I'm not going to feel bad for Gina. She is literally like a scrim and a backdrop. She is set up all the time. So Tamara's like, well, bring the person out. You guys are just like giving some fake voice on the phone. where is this coming from why are we protecting this blogger why are we protecting this person weird what this is not this is not like the press you don't have to protect your sources here why are we protecting this random this rando who's getting in the middle of everything yeah so um gina's like well in this situation like it doesn't even have to do with gretchen like it's between you and i like if you're telling anybody about what's happening here like it's getting out and It's a problem.

35:52By the way, by the way, if Tamara is a leaky leaky poo and she's been leaking to this guy, why would she suddenly stop leaking? She would have leaked this guy's identity like three weeks ago. Three weeks ago, she would have. She would have outed him. She's a retaliatory. 100 % she would have. Yeah. So they're talking about the leak still, still. And Jen's like, you need accountability, you know, because Katie had to take it. So it should be taken across the board. and so Andy asked Tamara if he thinks someone close to her is betraying her like maybe if it's not her it's someone else she goes I don't know but I'm telling you I'm not reaching out to bloggers it was Sandy

36:30it was Sandy all along Sandy's dropping the dropping the kids to all the bloggers it's the guy from Costco that Sandy was fucking he's just hearing things in the kitchen with his backward baseball cap and his skateboard So then this goes back and forth. And so Heather's like, well, listen, this is a moment for everyone to say enough. And so Heather gives her monologue where she's like, we are adult women on this show. We are here to have a show about controversy and making up. We are not here that I say Taylor Armstrong enough. And Andy's like, wow, that was a beautiful speech. Well, it's hard enough to be in this group.

37:14and navigate all this without people, you know, being authentic and talking to bloggers. You know, we are sharing authentic things about our lives. For instance, the shape you feel when you have to wear a Susan Bender jean jacket when everyone else gets to wear a nice little dress. And it's so much harder when we have to navigate outside people, and outside people aren't our friends. So we have to deal with that. And it's hard. It's hard to do that. And he's like, all right, well, I just got bored real quickly. Heather's the real monologue queen of this show we all know it Emily so stop trying to steal her spotlight okay so let's leave it there and we're gonna wrap things up cause honestly I haven't been listening to what you guys have been saying for the past 45 minutes okay we're back final thoughts from the Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 Christina from the UK says if you can't take back one thing you've said this season what would it be sorry that was my attempt at a British accent so Gretchen's thing that she regrets ma then I brought up the thing about Tamra and the whole situation okay so now you're talking about naked so you're upset that you brought up naked wasted what is she talking about the boy band thing oh that okay god that's her biggest regret oh thanks people everywhere I'm sure would say thanks Gretchen fucking monster?

38:41Who says that after the season you just had? The thing you regret the most is the 98 Degrees guy? Oh, for fuck? Fuck you, Gretchen. Jesus, you fucking crazy. Okay, Shannon's is, um... Well, I was too extreme with Katie. You are nothing like Alexis Bellino. I apologize. Katie was like, thank you, Shannon. I said something about Jen in a confessional about having a strong taste taste for, and I regret that. I regret that I have a strong taste taste for, and I was like, what about you, Heather? Well, it's not something I regret saying. I regret that I allowed two poor people into my penthouse. That really was not the space for them.

39:23I think I gave them aspirations that they'll never be able to reach in their lives. So I apologize to Gretchen and Emily for showing you what it's like to have a chef make you an omelet in the morning. I apologize. How about you, Emily? Um, I don't regret anything. Well, I mean, I guess I can go back to Katie. Because remember last year, like, I wish I had formed the question better as opposed to making it about your children. That wasn't my intent. So, yeah, I wish I would have said in a more articulate way, like, I don't know, I should have been like, Katie, you're a terrible mother. And that's why your kids got taken away from you instead of yelling, you know.

40:01She's like, well, thank you, Emily. Thank you so much. you know what here's my regrets okay well it wasn't this season but obviously i regret having asked you katie about like what you were wearing that you know the bicycle and all that stuff and this season i obviously deeply regret saying that like heather that you're not funny because i do think you're funny here tell a joke heather oh okay um knock knock who's there um my wealthy friends who own a winery my wealthy friends who own a winery who They're just here We're having a dinner party Can we go now?

40:42Anyone? Okay, well it's my turn now Okay, well we have a conversation Katie, me and you Because when I was in the trailer I got a call that you were with Nicole just yesterday Oh god, here we go And Nicole's my friend And not that she can't be your friend too But Nicole said that you said I'm going to ask you something and tell me the truth was Ryan involved in Matt's booking? Katie's like, oh, wait, I'm back in the reunion now? Wait, what? I've just been sitting here for two hours. No, no, I mean, no, I didn't say that. She goes, no, Nicole Jen, she said that you were fishing. I was like, wait, I said, was he involved?

41:23And we see a flashback to Ryan telling her this. And Katie's like, no, my friend Lely, Lely, Lely, Lely hosted an event, and she was a guest and I was invited by my friend Laley who owns the event space and Jen is like no but you went out fishing for me again and that's where Katie is like no I have nothing but love, you say I have nothing but love, 100 % but love but you can't do that in real friendships okay, you can't do that I guess you can make problematic videos that are kind of racist but what you can't do is fish for the wives of bookies to find out if some you know guy who wears paint on his denim is involved in a scam yeah she's like you can't do that if you're my friend and Katie's like since when are we friends like you haven't you've dumped me what are you talking about you dumped me and helped ice me out of this show i mean she says it in a very katie way which is i haven't heard from you jen it's like but you're sitting here today saying you know and look i hope there's a path but i'm just in my my trailer trying to eat lunch and which is also very convenient to all of you talking about things that are being planted oh you just happen to be in your trailer eating lunch when you get a call on camera from this lady who's desperate to be on the show and she says Nicole says that she's driving him out to prison she goes but I don't have to prove anything because I trust her I trust her I mean she called me on the way to taking her husband to prison who's a compulsive liar and is why he's going to prison for scamming people it's like yeah that's the one to trust was that wait did Nicole call Jen or did Nicole call Ryan and Ryan talked when Ryan and Jen were talking they were they hashed it out or he told her I don't even remember I guess Nicole told Ryan.

42:59But yeah, so Katie is saying, no, I went to this party. This girl came up to me and said, listen, I would love to be on the show. I've been trying to get on this show for years. And I've got so much gossip about what's going on. And Katie just said, well, what is it? I mean, was Ryan guilty or whatever? And the way that she's hearing it is that she went – made a beeline to this lady and was like, ooh, tell me all the gossip about Ryan. I mean, I don't know. This is a tricky call because Katie is messy and she's slippery with the truth, which is what we discovered. But also, am I trusting the girlfriend of the bookie who is up to no good?

43:37like so they've clearly said that they're trying to get on the show the truth is somewhere in there so Andy's like okay okay okay let's too late too late you waited too long to bring this up because we're already in the we're at the closing stages the plane is landing they've cleared the runway it was too late to do this we can't take off again so that's it let's take a toast here's some we got everyone hurricanes so let's toast the hurricanes oh my god you guys are all horrified by the amount of sugar in these drinks because they all they all do their toast and they all sip from the hurricanes like, oh my god, there's so much sugar in here.

44:10This is disgusting. How could you do this? I am offended. This is the most offensive thing that's happened this entire reunion is the amount of sugar in this drink. Well, I would like to apologize to Earl the Pearl for drinking a hurricane. First of all. Could someone let Earl the Pearl know that this beverage is not heading towards his house? So I am off the hook. So now it's a very low-key ending. Andy, not even smiling and tamra just sits back down on the couch like flabbergasted that she just got beat in a reunion by slade and she's freaking out meanwhile the other ladies are taking selfies with that tamra and heather asks if she's okay she's like no it's not okay to set up i'm not okay and she's telling andy i didn't do this i didn't do this i didn't do this i was just you're just sitting there like it was like oh i'm sorry no it just reminded me of one of those wind-up dolls that was just left on a sofa.

45:11Her hands are shaking. Her whole body's like, I didn't do that. He's like, it's going to be okay. It's all right. You know how it goes. This is very much her in the van when Shannon's holding her head. I can't believe she said that about my daughter. In Ireland. So it is that. But this is where we hear, Katie says, what's the name of the account that reached out to you about all of this? And Gina's saying, um, well, they deleted the DM that they originally sent me. And honestly, I don't remember the name. Which is when I do. They're all fucking full of shit. That's crazy. And Tamara's like, what?

45:46Is it called bloggers? There's no information on it. I mean, this is bullshit. What's more bullshit is I can't find my fucking phone. I can't find it. Oh, well, I need to pull my Spanx down. Okay, I have to go. Okay, I've got to go. So Andy is like, so Tamara's on her phone. He's like, what are you looking for, Tamara? Tamara's like, my phone, where's my phone? I need to find my phone, hey. And so now they do like a group selfie, but Tamara's like not in it because she's like crying and everything. And so now they like are heading out to their trailers and in Jen's trailer, Jen's like, well, you know, when we fuck up, which we all done, you know, then, you know, just say you do it.

46:24Well, that's obvious, Jen. Your name is Jen, right? Jen, you're my friend, right? Oh, well, you know, when you were on the call, there's just too much circumstantial evidence and, you know, oh, by the way, this is like tape. What do I do with my like tape? I'm sorry. Well, look, at the end of the day, you get tacos for tacos and Katie and Tamara are friends because they're just alike. They're the same person. And Tamara meanwhile is like, you can't trust me? Why can't you trust me? What do you mean you can't trust me? I'll value my job, bitch. He doesn't trust Tamara. He doesn't trust Tamara. Well, you know, Well, you know, Tamara, going forward, you know who's in your corner and who's not.

47:06You know what I mean? Yes, I do. Which means that whoever's in my corner, I'm going to betray next season, and I'll become friends with the people who aren't. So, good luck to you, Katie. So, meanwhile, Gina's like, there were some things that only her and I would have known. Which is not true. Sorry. It's just not. And Emily's like, well, if it's not you, it doesn't take a fucking rocket scientist to figure out who the guilty party is. So then who does it take? No, that's just an expression. That's just where it ends. Wait, but you see, there's no one, there's no one who, I don't know. It's just over, Gina.

47:40It's over. The reunion's over. They rolled the credits. It's done. We left them my sentence. Oh, I feel bad that I ruined that. But, um, and that brings us to the end of another season of Real Housewives of Orange County. Wow. Wow. All right. Well, uh, it's nice. You know what I love? I love our reunion where we're pretty just chill as we recap it. Oh, me too. Yeah, I love just like a nice chill. We're just, yeah, just a barrel of laughs. I love just like a nice, even, happy tone through an entire two-hour recap. Controversially, I enjoyed this season. I think I've said this many times before, but I actually did enjoy this season.

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