#3097 RHOSLC S612 Part One: Boston Pee Party

0:21Well, hello and welcome to Watch What's Crappin' I'm Ronnie, that's Benooni over there. Hello Ben, how are you? I'm great, thanks. How are you doing? Good. Everybody, welcome back to Watch What Crappens. It is Vanderpump Rules Day. For all those who celebrate, we will be covering that after Salt Lake City. So come back later for little pumpy rules. We're back, darling. Better than ever. I don't know if we're better than ever, but I'll tell you what. The Phillips Hue bulbs are still a-burnin' in that place. A lot of pink lighting. Okay. That's coming up. Monday we have an Amazon Live. Join us for that every Monday at 4 p.m.

1:02Pacific time. And that's it, really, right now. You know what? That's it, okay? We're getting ready to record with the Reality Gaze, our Christmas movie for the year. We finally decided it will be The Secret Santa, which is a really stupid movie on Netflix. An incredibly stupid movie on Netflix. Did you watch it already? No, I just watched a preview and I was like, why? Why do we do this? You know? I believe it's called My Secret Santa. Not The Secret Santa. My Secret Santa. Just to really make sure we're, you know, we want to honor the form. Yeah. It's about a girl who decides to pretend to be Santa.

1:44So she gets some gays over, I'm assuming. And they do all this like CGI and makeup on her. And so she becomes Santa. So guys Hilarity will ensue We'll be doing that during Christmas week Yes I have to say first of all Thank you to our listeners for listening to our show Because all this Spotify rap stuff Started coming out And so we looked at ours and the numbers were crazy And it said that our listeners On Spotify Listened to 230 million minutes Of us So thank you Thank you for spending that time. That is crazy. So thank you very much. Yes. And thanks to all the partners and husbands out there.

2:30Wives. Dogs. You are forced to listen. Yams are well. Suckers. We look forward to torturing you for another year. At least. But today we are torturing you with these sweet screeches of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Season 6, episode 12. First Amendment rights and wrongs. You know, Ronnie, you've often said that Salt Lake City is the community theater of the Housewives. And this was the closest that that has come to reality because this was an episode where the women got into cheap costumes and sat on a stage in sort of like a V formation, cheating out to the audience. And we're like literally putting on a scene for us at like a community, like a warehouse.

3:17Like it was, this was as close to your description as we could possibly get. I mean, they were literally in a warehouse doing a scene. And they were saying, like for anybody who's ever done community theater, we've heard these lines in rehearsal before. You know, like when you're sitting around and you're going through notes and somebody gets all mad because they keep getting a note and they just can't ever get their scene right or whatever. And then you just hear, alcoholic, pill popper. We've all been there. all been there. What an episode. And what was also great is that, as we will get to, they all had quill pens, which meant that then when they started to argue, they couldn't resist shaking their quill pens at each other.

4:03So even though they were having very serious arguments and yelling and crying and making accusations, they were shaking these like frilly feathers at each other. And it just was such a hilarious visual. And then my favorite piece of theater, Whitney Rose sitting on her patio with a glass of wine, pretending she didn't understand what MLMs were and blaming everything on Justin. What a dick this lady is. What an absolute piece of work this woman is. And you know what? I found it absolutely hilarious. And just Justin's face like, well, I don't really know what to say about that, Whit. Sorry. Her thought was a little odd.

4:43It was, well, we'll get to it, but it was very funny. How dare you force me to go into an animal lab? I could have been in Sephora's. No, no, you couldn't have. Girl, they wouldn't even take that shit in Luby's, and we all know it. She's acting like she turned down a billion dollars. She's acting like she's going to be the next Selena Gomez. Like, I was going to be Selena Gomez. Hilarious. Okay, so we open with Bronwyn in one of her wacky outfits, picking up Todd from the airport. This also, I mean, literally every scene in this I loved. You know, a lot of people have been maybe complaining about this episode online, just saying it's kind of boring.

5:21I did not think it was boring. What? I thought it was fabulous. I mean, even this first scene with her showing up in that airport in that sloth costume. But the best part, even though she's in an inflatable sloth costume, the best part was just watching Todd alone at baggage claim. Just the amount of annoyance and perturbance on his face. her perturbatory just being like perturbitude he was already he was just angry he was angry from flying he's angry for being at the bag carousel he was angry that there was cameras capturing him from two different angles and he knew that every single time a bag came down that that like uh conveyor belt he was like well it's another bag that's not mine what a day this is what a day of travel how am i gonna be the first person off the plane and the last person to get their luggage Someone call the manager What do you mean I had to Discard my Werther's Originals It's not even a liquid You can bring that through the security detectors What's wrong with that You can't even bring Listerine on a plane anymore Did anybody blow up a plane with Listerine Please point me to the news headline When that happens Yeah he already looked pre-grumpy Or post-grumpy from his flight He's probably grumpy because he can't look at all the things He wants to look at on an iPad anymore when he's sitting there in his seat.

6:41Damn it. Gotta just read the headlines. Hi, Todd. Todd, honey, what you doing on the plane? And he's like, well, I've watched some videos on the iPad. I did not watch any boobies on my textist just in case any of your lady spies are behind me. That was great. Yeah, he literally says, he's like, I watched some stuff. I looked at some stuff I downloaded onto my iPad. I was like Todd just don't even don't talk Just don't mention the iPad don't don't bring that up Don't mention things you downloaded Just say just say you watch Crazy Rich Asians that is the catch all For this show now I don't remember the ending though How come no one End knows the ending to that movie I honestly Don't remember the ending of the movie either I just Remember the mahjong scene and then that's it After that it's a blank The mahjong scene was the best yes with the mom When she finally like won the mom over in the mahjong scene yeah yeah why have we not gotten a sequel i feel like we've been sitting here waiting dutifully for years and years we get sequels like every other yeah we get sequels to every other inane movie that's out there but like no but it's a rough economy and no one's no one's crazy rich anymore yeah we were crazy rich till we saw our netflix bill no crazy poor asians with netflix with two decent shows on it it's true honestly everything's so expensive it's you know you're right how many times i'm gonna watch wednesday in a row yeah it's like

8:16so um rowan's saying that basically uh you know like she and todd are married and you know it's so you know they are having issues but doesn't mean she doesn't want to be married to him you know and that their relationship can uh can withstand the good times and the hard times she's basically like yeah todd's still todd's still grumpy and todd is also still very very rich I'm staying I had a week with just Muzzy and Gwyn and like once we all got our matching bobs we sort of ran out of things to talk about so decided I'd bring Todd back into the mix I can't quit my husband until he's got a bob everyone in my household will have a bob like we don't even see the dogs anymore and you know they're walking around with little bobs why don't we see those dogs anymore what happened to all the dogs like I get it you know You got shamed for all the dog poop in your house.

9:07So now what do you do? Slaughter the dogs? Were the dogs like fed to people under a bridge? Where are the dogs? I'm worried about the dogs now. Is the reunion being taped right now, by the way? I think it's happening today. Yeah, I think it is. Andy sent out that bat signal last night saying like, whoever has any questions, ask them. And I was trying to come up with a really good and funny question about Bob's. But I got distracted. Also, I'm currently being dragged on Twitter, which is like very fun. Oh, yeah. What did you do? Because I posted that stupid list of housewives that like best house.

9:43I was like, here's my work in progress of best housewives who were cast from season five or later. But it was, well, I did this right before we did our bonus episode. Oh, yeah. So shout out to our bonus episode. Among other things, we talked about this list. We talked it through, revised it. We both agreed that I had initially put Portia way too low. I don't know. Like I did the list initial list was like 2am and I just, you know, you start to overthink things. And I was like, well, I like Porsche. Porsche is great, but I don't know. Is she overrated? Is she not overrated? Sometimes she checks out.

10:12So I put her at number seven, which is still very high. And then we moved her up to number five. Like you, you made a very good point of like, she should definitely be top five. Well, the initial list is out there on Twitter and people are not happy. And well, but then again, people are not happy about literally every single thing. Like people are like, where's, where's this person? Where's that person? That person to love rena should be number five rena should be number 12 how could you say this you said dr tiffany moon but you didn't say dr wendy ocefo it's like everyone it's actually hilarious you withheld the doctor title on accident well because well it was by accident but also i'm thinking like medical doctor and i'm also like i always feel like we always call tiffany moon dr tiffany moon but we never say dr wendy ocefo it's a fair point actually i mean she's still a doctor she deserves her doctorate but either way it's like i'm getting it left and right but it's fun that's like i've never housewives opinions that's what you get i know i know exactly it's just funny because i've never gotten um such hostility before but i but it's fun it's like really fun to experience you're toughening up over there jeez i know you gotta go through it once well our our friend remember eric williams from um yes podcast you know he posted that halloween costume he did back in october you know about this what was it just for people who don't know so uh he since he has a um a passing resemblance to the dad from inside inside out from pixar he posted he made that like he did like a sexy version of that where he basically just like stuffed his crotch and he put that on twitter and it got nine million responses from basically gays saying that he like wishes he looked like that he's like no all the gays just attacked him 9 million gays attacked him 9 million He had like 9 million responses It went viral, it's hilarious I've had like 40, I'm like oh my god Wow, you should have had the cover The cover image of your list of housewives With you just with your junk stuffed I know I should have People are unhappy that I put Dolores so high People are really unhappy that I put Dolores and Sutton So high, which I get it But it's like, but they're like angry They're actually like very angry Yeah, like it's your personal list.

12:23You know, everybody has their own list. You know, you make your own list. Okay. Make your own. I know, but people are like, they're pissed. They're pissed. I've made the people angry, but I think we'll all survive. But it's also kind of funny. That's kind of a red badge of courage. So, yeah, I like it. A red badge of courage. It is. Yeah. I made it through this. I made it through 40 people. 40 people were angry at me. you're going to make it into 2026 so much stronger because of this then you did it but it is a work in progress and i and i will i did all right and i did post the revised version from patreon on twitter as well so but no one seems to care about the revised no one cares about the revised version they only care about the initial rough draft yeah well you know what we're all a work in progress everybody do you just keep putting one foot in front of the other let's just keep on moving Keep it moving So Todd's like so how was your week While I'm gone let me guess you bought a bunch of Extensive clothes and threw Sheets over dog shit on the ground Instead of cleaning it up Um well yes and Um also uh my week Was like not that good I'm in Big trouble I um I released a rough draft of a list Of housewives on twitter and people are not happy about That and also um Additionally uh can you Guess the other reason why I'm not in a good mood in good graces right now?

13:47Maybe because you put Sutton too far up when she's a dingbat, do nothing, gold digging, hump of nothing. Well, I think that people have to realize that like, yes, she is that, but like when she has her meltdown, they're pretty famous and she has a lot of famous lines and I don't know, people need to reconsider that. Oh, I don't want to talk about Sutton. What did your friends do? Okay, well. Now one more thing. How could you put somebody on a list who got rid of who betrayed black girl missing well you know i mean like yes i'm not saying that she's like uh does not to be our hero she can be our villain but like you know she's she's still worth being on the list there and she revitalized real house house of beverly hills when it was definitely in its rut and it's post lisa vanderbump rut so you know i think they deserve credit for that too but i really want to talk about my friends todd i'm unfollowing this newspaper What are you calling now?

14:42Go ahead. Bitch about your friends. Bitch about the friends I told you to stop hanging out with. Well, just so you know, it's called Twitter, but now it's called X. I don't want to talk about my X. How many times did I tell you? Why are we still talking about my texts? So she's like, well, what did you advise me to do before you left when we went to get coffee? And he's like, well, not get involved with the situation on an airplane. Snakes on a plane. That's the last thing I'll talk about in any situation on a plane. I don't want to talk about airplanes no more. They bring nothing but bad news to this family.

15:19Whatever happened to horses? Remember the days when you would put in some headphones like that or a stethoscope and plug them into the armrest? That's what it's called, TWA. I miss that airline. Well, what do you think I did? I'm sure you got involved with a bunch of dingbats in a situation on a plane and I'm sure turned into a shit show. Well, yeah, that's true. That's exactly what happened. So, well, I was trying to do the right thing and Whitney's mad because I told Meredith what she said and I'm really bummed now because Whitney's not going to trust me and she's going to be mad at me. I'm like, yeah, but that's because Whitney said that thing and you went and told Meredith.

16:01So, of course, she's not going to trust you, Bronwyn. Yeah, anyone's an idiot to trust Bronwyn. She's the worst. I mean, and that's saying a lot because this is Housewives and that's a normal thing to like hear one thing and then go, I mean, she's even worse than Heather and Heather is the worst of all the franchises until Bronwyn. But Bronwyn, yeah, I wouldn't trust her. So Todd's like, well, this group needs to sit down and have a kumbaya and drink some fiber because you're all, you're all constipated. Every one of you. Yeah, you're stupid. Okay, well, you know what? That was unnecessary, Todd, that last remark.

16:38You don't have to approve of what we do, but you don't have to call us stupid. But you know what I'm starting to think? It's maybe we can't seem to move forward because - Well, there's a newsflash. Hold on. Let me roll down the window. Hey, newsflash. My wife is starting to think. Well, I think that everybody's worried that everybody still has something that they don't know about. You know, does that make sense? So I had this idea. Well, my first idea was everyone should get a bob. And then I realized people are not going to do that. So I thought, well, to celebrate my citizenship and becoming an American, I was thinking of having a spill of the Boston Tea Party, which is funny because I'm pretty sure no one in the cast knows what the Boston Tea Party even is.

17:18They probably think it has something to do with brewing some Lipton and then knocking it over and saying go Sox. But that's okay. Yeah, it's a Boston Tea Party. So I want to get all the gossip out and all of our animosity out. And then I think we come together and we form a new constitution, Todd. What do you think of that? And he's like, wow, God, you know, they hang the traitors in that area. That's what they did. You going to hang them? What are you going to hang? Lisa Barlow from a scarecrow post? Dare you. Oh! Get away from me, crows. You're disgusting. If I only had a bride. So then we go to Whitney's house.

18:00And now here's Sirius Whitney staring off into the hills of her. Staring off into the freeway. Whatever the hell. The freeway by a pond. She's just sitting there with her glass of wine like, I am so mad. I'm going to have a scene about it. She looks at the lights at the Paneras coming on as the sun sets. So Justin's like. Nothing calms my nerves like meditating while I stare at people parking at Jersey Mike's.

18:40People come, people go. They get their subways. And I stay here in the same place. Because I failed. I failed. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappins commercial.

19:01so justin comes out there and he's like oh hey wit she's just staring at the panera and he's like uh so uh what are you thinking about there wit what are you thinking a question no one has ever asked her what are you thinking about whitney um do you have a blank whiteboard i feel like what she thinks about is like i i feel like she's still trying to figure out a puzzle from like classic concentration in 1997. It was an I, but then there was a C and then there was a sheep. What does that mean? I see you. Thank you for understanding. We still can't figure this out though. Well, I just saw a large transfer from our bank account to one of our vendors and that hurt.

19:49I don't say tease at the end of words. That hurt. Yeah. I had to lose all my T's because I, because I failed. I lost the right to use the T's. So then Justin is like, I like that. She's saying that like, Oh my God. He is like, he's making payments without her consent. And then he's like, well, I just felt like we have to make things right with people we owe money to. She's like, but why? This woman who was just screaming at Lisa Barlow for not paying her bills at the beginning of the season and screwing people over in the in business wants to screw people over in business i mean this is just so hypocritical whitney it tracks it totally tracks i was really hurt when you paid the vendor we owed money to i think which is really all the people that we ripped off i'm assuming what she meant is like it's just a reminder of how much they failed is that they had to pay all this it's like more money going out the door so she's like it just sucks because my intuition going into this knew not to do it and I didn't listen.

20:56I'm like, is it about your hair color? We all understand it was for a good cause. It's all okay, Whitney. Is it that top? We took Woldrose. We took Woldrose. I kept thinking she was saying Valders. Like, she has such a weird way of pronouncing it. Did you notice that? She kept going, we took Woldrose Beauty and we merged it into a new entity. And unfortunately, I made a really bad decision. And right now I'm trying to get out of ownership of this company. I'm fighting to get my name off it, to remove me as an owner, and to get back to my biggest asset, which is the name, the brand, and the inventory.

21:37I was like, so the whole thing. Does anybody understand what the fuck Whitney is talking about in the scene? Because I actually had to do research at the end of this. And I used to actually follow Whitney's businesses quite a bit because they were always in trouble. You know, Whitney has been in trouble for years, ever since she's come on this show, for her businesses being MLMs and everything else. Them coming for Whitney for this. And there was a big TikTok scandal last year, in October of last year, which I know because I looked it up, about this business. And I still don't understand what the hell is going on.

22:06I still don't. And I'm trying, you guys. I'm making an effort. But apparently she had an MLM with Justin's MLM because she met Justin doing MLMs. That's when they started their affair. He was running an MLM. She was working for the MLM. They had an affair on both their spouses, whatever. They left their spouses. Fine. They're having fun now. They're happy. But he's continued to do MLMs. That's the company that he left after their chocolate sex spanking scandal. That is now the job that he has again. So the fact that Whitney is just pretending like, well, you talked me into an MLM. I never wanted to do that.

22:43It's crazy. Right. Well, also when she's like, she's like, I need to get back my biggest asset, which is my Wild Rose beauty name. I'm like, is that your biggest asset? Because you just said it's like, it's just a big failure. It's nothing but failure. I'm like, even if you do get it back, people are going to see Wild Rose and just associate it with whatever thing it just got associated with. Start fresh, Whitney. I mean, cash in on your fame for sure, but start fresh. It's okay. There are other names out there. You can make other words with Rose. It's all good. I say leave it behind and start something new.

23:23Like, this is too much work. Too much work. And it's her third one since the show started. It's her third business, which is crazy. Don't throw bad, good money after bad. You know what? Like after TVgasm, I, you know, look, I left TVgasm. That was something I had started. And I was like, you know what? Moved on. And you just move on. You just start something new. You just go forward. You know? Like it's sad to leave your babies behind, but you know, well, luckily my baby was in the hands of you. So it was in good, good stewardship. But you know what I'm saying. Yeah. It wasn't really your fault.

23:54But either way, the point is that like, sometimes you make things and then you move on. It's okay. Come on. wild roast you see well i moved on to trash talk tv and then and then crap it's it all it all works guys it all works out yeah so um now a little business advice for your aunts yeah your aunties and a lot of them will fail and that's okay failure's fine okay keep going so whitney is saying she doesn't feel like she was being told the truth with justin because i never would have fucking done this my vision was to go to sephora and ulta and target and to get away from mlm and then literally the week that she made a decision to go direct selling mlm was the week that she met the buyer of sephora to get wild rose beauty into big box stores and then justin and the partners flashed numbers in front of her and she felt like she had no other choice but to go mlm and so she did it because she trusted justin and she's really mad at herself Okay, Whitney, if you had...

24:56Go ahead. Did they flash numbers in front of her face or was she taking a selfie with a timer and I was saying 3, 2, 1? They were throwing spaghettios at your face, okay? Because you wouldn't get out of the way of the projector, okay? And those were letters, not numbers. You're just looking at the speedometer on your car. Look at all those numbers.

25:17Okay, you had a meeting with Sephora. Did you get into Sephora? Because this is the thing. You can have a meeting with people, but if your goal was to get into Sephora, I think that's a great goal. I mean, look, of course, I'm saying like ain't nobody want that in Sephora. OK, that's my opinion. But also my opinion is if that's your goal, that's a great goal to have. That's a cool goal. But to give it up the week that you have your first meeting, it's not like you had already sold it to Sephora. I don't know. I have a problem with her blaming everything on Justin. I have a problem with it because this is very we've watched from the very beginning.

25:49Justin had his job then he lost his job because of the stuff they were doing on camera then that was rough on her and then blah blah blah then she took all the money out of their account to put it into this business and that was another big thing between them that she did that and now she's blaming him for losing everything I don't know I don't think that's fair that's not wrong to me I I'm okay with blaming some of it on Justin if she had a vision and then he like pressured her to go his route i mean look you know she's her own person and she should she can make her own decisions and her choices she learned the hard way what happens when you don't uh i think like she's allowed to have some resentment towards justin like but we're assuming that her story is completely true and i'm i'm right now it's whitney um but i'm taking it at face value um but i don't because i think the thing is stuff out they leave all this stuff out about all this mlm stuff here's what i can see what happened now first of all my opinion is based on only what we're seeing on the show and what i've found on the internet there is no concrete truth to this nobody really knows what happened to the business she's saying that they got wrapped up in a justin company because the company failed and that's it from what i see happened they changed they took wild rose beauty immediately into an mlm it was never anything else so they took wild Rose Beauty.

27:10They had all those openings last year that we saw for influencers and all of that, which were basically people to build the pyramids, which is what MLMs are. Then she got called out. Then it became a huge thing on TikTok because people who worked there were talking about what a ripoff it was and how they were all getting ripped off from this thing. It turned into a PR disaster. And then that's when it went south. So I think she's trying to blame all of that that we know about on the internet on justin and i just don't think that's fair they've been they've been in they've these two have been involved in mlms for years and years and years so i don't think it's like winnie just didn't know it's now on them and she could have been in sephora's i just don't buy it but that's all i'll say i've already monologued for an hour about it to me what's i mean i think all things can be true i think i think i think i think she could still have pressured her and i think that that um she still knowingly went down that path what i do think though is what i was kind of chuckling about the entire time and you know it's it's mean to chuckle at someone's business you know going down the tubes especially because businesses are off limits which by the way they're not businesses are not off limits on a real housewife show i think they are totally on limits children fine because you can like you can cause trauma in their in their development and they could lead to like terrible, terrible things in their lives.

28:31But businesses, yeah, come on. But, um, uh, I do think, uh, there was a part of me that was chuckling every time she was sort of like implying, like she had her sliding doors moment. And, um, if she just pivoted in one direction instead towards this buyer at Sephora, like she would have had like billions of dollars. I'm like, I don't know if that's guaranteed to be honest. You never know. You You never know who's going to make it big in these spaces, but I'm just not sure Whitney was the one who was going to break through at Sephora. Yeah. Well, she says, the minute you had an opportunity to take my baby, you said, let's make a billion dollar company.

29:13And that's why I said yes, because if Justin believes it and we're working together, then it can't fail. Well, so then this is where I thought it was strange. Her whole thing was like, you've never, ever, ever taken an interest in my businesses. And I really resent you for that. And then you finally did. And then you ruined it. That's kind of what she's saying. I'm like, so are you, are you saying that you were unhappy that he came in? Or are you saying that you wish that he had, like, are you happy? Are you unhappy that he never paid attention to your business? Are you unhappy that he did pay attention to your business in this case?

29:48Like, I'm sort of like, I couldn't quite get the through line there. Well, I think she wanted him to do the MLM thing with her business years ago, and he couldn't because he had non-compete clauses with his job. So he couldn't help her in that way. But now that he can help her, he did bring it into an MLM and then it failed. And they also had another partner in the MLM. So if this was failing or felling, as she says, as a bigger thing within an entity, they're going to cut that one off, right? You know, especially if it has all this bad press and everybody's dogging its name, you can't really win that back online.

30:20If everyone on TikTok is like, this business sucks and it's robbing people and it's ripping people off and it's an MLM, there's really no coming back from that. Which is why it's funny that she wants to keep her Wild Rose name. She's like, that's the most important asset that I have, a tarnished brand. All I want is to be able to come out and call my store Blockbuster. I've decided to rebrand and my new company's name is Enron.

30:50BP. So Justin's like, well, I don't really know what to say except saying sorry for getting you involved. I mean, he looks so confused. He's like, really? You're going to you. You told me this was going to be a scene of us looking at the Panera closing down. And now it has to be. Now it's you dogging me on TV. God damn it. We were supposed to make a wish at 1111 over the lights of the Panera. And now instead you're making me have to explain the situation. So she's like, I'm trying not to resent you. It's just hard to separate you from that. And so the producer says, is there going to be a change in the marriage or has there been one?

31:29Because in the beginning when it was all crumbling, I did bring, it did bring Justin and I closer and it's really making me struggle because separation from the business and the marriage, it's all become like one. and now I can't, I don't know. She literally like runs out of steam while she's doing her professional. Like, come on, Whitney, you can do it. You can make it to the end of your monologue. Yeah. I'm just kind of there. And he's like, well, I mean, look, I made a mistake. Like, obviously I feel the resentment, but you know, like I always know your company is going to be successful. I just thought it was a way we could work together, babe.

32:10She's like, yeah, but that was my everything. I had that company for two weeks. It was everything. And now it's gone. Listen, why don't you just go to where the real money is? Open up a soda shop. You're there in Utah. Your daughter will be there. Her gums will be on the spigot with all of her classmates. Just go to where the kids are, okay? Give them the caffeine and the sugar that they want. No, you can't become a heroin dealer when your daughter is an addict, okay? That's a bad family advisor. And we all know that Bobby is a soda addict. We've seen that little drunk at the skating rink when she's like, I'm at whatever it started out with my mama.

32:48I'm going to get me some Sprite and some Dr. Pepper. What you going to say about that, witch? I know. I say, like, join in. Do it. Riding off, speeding off in her golf cart, running over a baby in the street. Girl, that girl's a drunk. That's a soda drunk. Everyone's trying to be Bethany Frankel. Everyone's trying to come up with, like, a business idea. They're trying to capitalize on their fame on these shows. And I get it. It's very American to do that. And everyone's like, I can be the one that pushes through. And I can have a huge success. Yada, yada, yada. I get it. But like, I don't know.

33:24Like, go for something a little bit more local. Like, open up a soda parlor. Open up a bowling alley. I don't know. Like, not everything has to make it to Forbes. Also, don't do like a predatory business, maybe. You know, don't open a business that's like predatory on women trying to make a living, which is what MLMs for the most part are like. I'm not going to feel sorry for Whitney, who's an MLM head. Those those are known for being monstrous businesses. And now she's acting like a victim. Well, ha ha. Maybe come up with a real idea that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't involve, you know, hurting, hurting women, ma 'am.

34:02How about. Yeah. Call it. How about multi-level milkshakes? now that i'm into yes suddenly i'm a whitney rose fan yes whitney for president yeah just like you know i think my general note for the housewives who are trying to cash in on their on their fleeting fame my note is stop trying to come up with things we've seen a million times on shark tank skin care pet food all that stuff like like address a real need not i'm sorry i shouldn't say a real need obviously pets pets need their food and uh and people need their skincare. That was totally the wrong wording. What I really meant is like, come up with something, like address something like that's, that's like not being addressed.

34:43So like kids want their soda. I don't know. Like just there's, there's a world outside of, there's a world outside of doing your fashion line of doing your skincare of doing this, like just do something different. And it does, don't try, don't try to be like a nationwide brand right out of the gate. Just, just maybe steps. Get good at something and then do that. But who knows? So we go over to Heather's house and we just leave Justin's teeth behind because Justin is really like this. He's just like confused and we just see the top row of his teeth and gums. He's like, what the fuck? He's like the Chester cat.

35:23Yeah. So then we go to Heather's house and she is decorating her daughter Annabelle's room in Tampa college colors, which are red and black. Who knew? I didn't know. I feel like Tampa would have like more Miami type colors, right? Yeah. Pastelis. I'm actually a little disappointed in Tampa. Like you're, you're in Florida. Like they gives you licenses to do like all sorts of like fun, bright colors, but red and black is a little gloomy, a little bloody, you know? Yeah. And I'm in Austin. And so I see that color and I think of the Aggies, you know, and I don't even know anything about football, but I know we're supposed to hate them.

35:58So every time you see maroon people crossing a crosswalk, you have to rev your engine. Like you're about to hit them, you know? Wow. And then they look at you like, and then you do longhorns in their face and you speed off and you roll your window down and goes, yeah, suck that Aggie. Suck it. Although now that I think about it, isn't red and black also University of Utah? My nephew goes there and I gave me a sweatshirt that I believe was red and black. I don't know, like this, this Tampa red and black. I don't know. I think that it's fine for Utah to be red and black. I just think that Tampa should be like flamingo colors, you know, pink and black.

36:33I think so too. And like, like flowers, you know, flowers or like a leopard print or something. Yeah. Something tacky. Every school in Florida has to have colors that would, that, that, that match that scheme. Like no primary colors, just pastels, pastels and fluorescence. And like Robert Goulet should be the principal. Yeah. Yeah. Even though he's dead. I just want, a hundred percent he can do it. I just want the University of Tampa to take notes. Is it University of Tampa? Tampa State University? Tampa Mechanical College? I'm looking at Tampa State School Colors. Yeah, scarlet and black. Commercials.

37:15Here comes one right now.

37:21So they're decorating and they're making small talk. I really don't care. This is super boring. Except it was fun when Heather said, I have had two major changes in my life this year. The first one is that I bought an air fryer. It's changed my life. And then we see her making what she calls, what do they call it? They call it like an all in the tub, a mixed bag. A mixed bag. Yeah. I have to say I'm like a bit shocked. I'm actually, of all the things I've been disappointed with, with Heather Gay, you know, as once our fearless leader on this show, you know, I think the thing I'm most disappointed is that it took her this long to get an air fryer because she just has air fryer energy.

38:08Like I would have actually thought she's had an air fryer this entire time. And I would have thought like the best part about Heather Gay is that, you know, you could probably like hit her up and be like, like, what are the air fryer recipes? And to know that she's a newbie with it is like shocking. It is. but i love air i love that heather is just catching on to air fryers like it i know it does kind of track you know so she talks about air frying and we see how excited she's been can't believe they cut that because that it looks like she planned on that being her storyline for the season and they're just fitting it in in episode 12 in a flashback and i felt kind of i would have her i would have preferred that to be honest like that's actually a storyline i would have 100 gotten behind like if every episode she was trying something new she's trying new recipes She's developing an air fryer cookbook.

38:50Like I'm into that. Like watching kids go to college is, well, it's not that we're watching the kids go to college. It's just that she's sort of just talking about how she redid her office. That's basically it. Yeah. So they talk about that and they talk about her going to college and I don't care. So then we go to, do you care? Can I move on? I care deeply. Let's go through every single detail. I'd rather talk about all the other useless crap we've talked about for 45 minutes. So we go to Bronwyn's house and she's full of pride flags, guys. And she's putting them in envelopes and she's asking Muzzy to bring her a spreadsheet.

39:27And she explains, I'm a big supporter of the LGBTQIA community. And I was horrified when there was a passing of a law in Utah that pride flags could not be displayed at any government building. So I just thought one way I could show support is just mailing people pride flags if they need one. so my mom and i have made you know multiple trips to the sex store that also sells pride flags so yeah she's dragged muzzy muzzy got some sort of media training where they're like muzzy we don't care how you feel about any of these things just smile and get along otherwise america will destroy you so she's like okay i'm at the sex store now this is quite okay this is interesting okay muzzy you are currently being stoned to death in public opinion uh go to the gay sex store okay anything that'll work so um so they're looking at something and she's like oh look at this oh this is like a penis don't say that word she's like i already did say it mother and it's not a bad word to say so she says mom you know you coming and doing this with me i know it's a big deal because you're a huge homophobe and hate gay people.

40:38And I know that this is, you know, how you feel politically and stuff. This isn't your lane. And, you know, I know sometimes it's very hard for you to support gay people. OK, look, everybody, that's my mother. She normally doesn't support gay people. Mother, I know this is it's this is not politically what you are into, but your eyebrows say otherwise. So I'm going to say they do have a big day. I don't know if you heard this, but your eyebrows have been hired to be a guest judge on RuPaul next season. So congratulations.

41:13Well, as long as it helps you, dear, I don't care. Now, if you ask me to go to a strip show, I might draw the line there. Okay. We've had enough line drawing all over your face. It is just those eyebrows. I seriously can't. I'm not going to help you though, because it's very important for me that America hates you while they see me being kind to you. Well, one of the reasons why I haven't fixed my mom's brows is she said you can either have the brows or the bob. And I chose the bob. So she gets the bob. She doesn't give her the bob. She has to keep her eyebrows. So, you know, sacrifices that we make.

41:44Well, you know, I love doing crazy things that I wouldn't do on my own. Crazy, crazy things. Like mailing pride flags. It's like, whoa. Normally when people say that, it's like bungee jumping or like streaking across the town square. It's like touching the pride flag. I love doing crazy things. And, you know, she's probably, you know, taking a Sharpie to those flags and just writing. Fix yourself. And then mailing them to the gay kids in Idaho or whatever. You could be better. So she says, well, you know, dear, I don't worry about what other people think anymore. like I used to because I'm a grown up now.

42:24Are you? So do I have to wait until I'm 80 to be a grown up? Because, you know, I very much worry about what other people think of me. I'm like, well, listen, you do show up at the airport dressed as an inflatable sloth. So if you're concerned about people viewing you as a grown up or not, you know, there are some ways you could adjust that. You dress like a melted crayon. Okay. So no, you don't. You have more confidence. You have more confidence than you lead on. And she's like, well, I do care what other people think about me still. I very much do, Mom. And I very much worry about what you think of me.

42:57And she goes, well, I think you should to a certain extent. I mean, I don't care what people think about me because I'm pretty awesome. But you, maybe you should think about that a little bit. Shame does have its upside. Well, Mother, you know, in the past, you and I have struggled because I was making choices that you didn't really agree with. And you were very vocal about those lessons, Mother. And she's like, well, I told you that I learned my lesson, Bronwyn. I told you. She goes, well, we have moved through it. And I actually think that it's very interesting that the thing that you were most mad at me about was having Gwen.

43:30And now the thing that you love best about me is Gwen. Well, you've been a great mom for Gwen, considering your setbacks, your personality, your needs, your neediness, all those things. But you need to be proud of what you're doing because you're doing a great job. I mean, everything you're doing is really great, except for all this insane flag bailing we're doing. I don't know. And since when do we add the L word, L to the word? I don't understand this. So these are for Care Bears. Is that correct?

44:02This, you know, all that aside, this is nice to see. You know, I know Muzzy has pissed us all off, including me. But this is actually very nice to see the scene. I really like it. It's two weeks in a row where Muzzy has had decent scenes. I'm not saying the best. I know she called her an oopsie last week. But, you know, some of our moms just talk to us that way. And it's their way of being cute. But it's nice seeing it, you know. And as someone who's always had a up and down mostly, you know, when I was younger, mostly down relationship with my mom. I have a very difficult mom. And I can be very difficult as well.

44:35And I've, you know, talked about it on this show for years. Me and my mom have come to a place, and a lot of it has had to do with us both just letting go of shit from the past and also just letting go of shit from the present because there's just not anything we're going to do to change. And it has been worth it to me because there have been times where I think we both could have just cut each other off and gone no contact and done all that stuff. And we've actually put in the work to not do that. And honestly, the biggest piece of that work has both of us has been both of us shutting our fucking mouths a lot of the time.

45:10And it frustrates us both. But I think that it has worked. And so it is very good for me. I feel really good. And I'm really happy with it. And I'm really touched to see it happen for Bronwyn, too, because it's not easy, girl. And it's nice to see that on TV. You know, I know still I know people still want to throw Muzzy overboard, but I'm going to give it to her for this. This one. I feel for her. Well, I'm proud of Muzzy because normally it takes two seasons to have these scenes. You have your season where you get like trashed by the audience. And then the next season you've like seen it all.

45:49And you come back. You're like, this is the new me. I'm a nicer. And this is kind of like when they took Dancing with the Stars and made it like a one night affair. Like it used to be they would dance on one night and then you get the results the next night. And then they decided, no, we're going to do it all in one episode. And that's like basically what they're doing here. She's like, you know what? Like I was bad earlier in the season and I'm already having my redemption scenes in the same season. And it's like they just accelerated it. So like good for her. Yeah. She's all making out with Lynn in the corner.

46:17Oh, RIP. Yeah. So, oh, he died. Yeah, he died. I stopped watching that show. So they have a nice little scene and she's like, you know, but I am proud of you. And she goes, but I need to hear it. She's like, OK, Bronwyn, but I am proud of you, you know, and I don't say it a lot because I just don't like saying stuff like that. It's disgusting, you know, but I've always wanted to make you. And Bronwyn's like, well, I've always wanted to make you proud of me, mother. And I've always wanted you to think I did something worthwhile. She's like, well, I am proud of you because look at you. You've got a bob.

46:50Your daughter has got a bob and I've got a bob. What more do you need to say I'm a winner? What's the opposite of generational trauma? Generational Bobma. Okay. That's what we have. Bobberational trauma. Bobberational trauma. She's like, but you know, you're, you know, you always, you know, and you know, look, you always went around telling Gwen crazy things like you're the best thing or the smartest or you're so pretty, you know, things that you just would never tell a child and you did it. And, you know, it's working out pretty well. Well, we just did it different, Mom. Yeah, you did it the lazy, stupid way.

47:28And I did it the tough way. But I guess, look, she wound up with a Bob at the end of the day. So, you know, as they all say, at the end of the day, you get a Bob for a Bob. And that's where we all are. So, you know what? I'm all kidding with it. You did good, kid. I like when she said, you know, but you didn't like the way I raised you, being judgmental all the time. And so you changed it and you changed the cycle. And that's great. Good for you. You know? Your confidence in doing things incorrectly is to be commended, Bronwyn. And look at the way Gwen just rolled her eyes at you at the Bonsai store.

47:58It just goes to show you can be judgmental or not judgmental. They're still going to hate you for it, so might as well be judgmental and have fun with it. And then Muzzy subtly reminds us that Bronwyn is bad in another way. She's like, well, I would give you a hug, but I know how much you hate that. She goes, yeah, no hugs. She goes, yeah, you pass that on to Gwen. Look at her. your bob shield both of you walking around with a bob shield she's like yeah i'm prickly mother i'm like a hedgehog do not touch me okay okay we're good i thought you were gonna i thought you were gonna hug me but okay no i know that my mom sees that i've done things differently but in a way that's been successful but for her to be able to voice that like to be be willing to say it and be willing to say to me is a huge step for her and i think that like sometimes you just have to hear it that's why you get a bob so you have less hair in front of your ears you can hear the things.

48:47Yeah. And she's like, I just, this is all I wanted, Mom. This is all I wanted. Was it a baby? Mom. And she's like, oh, God, there you go. Off the deep end. Okay, well, now I'm finding out, too, that you made the spreadsheet wrong, and so the road or the circle or the drive goes on the next line. Oh, God. You just screwed over all the gays. Good job, Bronwyn. Producers, can we end this scene already? I think I've been nice enough to my daughter. I don't know why you're still filming me. And I only got spreadsheet content left. The camera pulls back. We just see her strangling a gerbil in her left hand, trying to make it through the scene.

49:22So now it's time for the main event. We go to Angie Kay arriving at like a loading dock. She's dressed like Betsy Ross. She's got like a little bonnet in her hair. And I think she has a flag. Maybe she has a basket. I don't know. I may be just misremembering a basket. There's probably no basket. But either way, she's there. and she's just standing on this like industrial loading dock in the middle of a parking lot. And she's as confused as we are. Listen, it's not Real Housewives of Salt Lake City if someone's not filming something at a U-Haul rental center. Seriously. So Heather's like, I have no idea because Heather Whitney and Brittany are in a car.

50:03And Heather's like, I have no idea what today is all about, but I love a theme. I love a theme as much as I love sisterhood, which is what we have. So she just said, get out of the loading dock, right? Like, that's all we have to do. And Brittany's like, well, we have to meet her on a platform. And that part is just so confusing. A platform. What's a platform? Okay, someone settle down, Brittany. Okay, you think that's the most confusing part? I thought I was dressing up like Hamilton was confusing. So then Lisa and Meredith are in their car. And Meredith's like, what do we have going on here?

50:33I don't know. You know, we're just going to some warehouse place, I guess. Like, where the hell are we going? Yeah, where are we going to? so now Angie's still waiting alone she's like I still don't know if I'm in the right place I swear this is the address she gave me now it's like no surprise that like in the previews for next week they wind up going to Greece because Angie K is probably like um yeah I spent a lot of money on this outfit just to wear it at a loading dock so um I'm gonna need us to go to someplace nice yeah I've had enough of this crap so now back in the Whitney car she's like Brittany how are you?

51:09I haven't seen you since my house. She's like, well, I did meet Meredith in the park. Whitney's like, why the park? Because you're on Salt Lake City. Where else would you meet? You've already gone to the two restaurants they'll allow you into in town. Sorry, the parking lot with the mound of dirty snow has been booked, so you'll have to go to the park. Sorry the rusty chain link fence is busy today. I know. Well, if Meredith called me to meet me at the park at high noon, I would say no thanks. It does seem like a duel, right? Like, it seems like walk ten paces and turn around and shoot. Like, isn't that, like, funny?

51:49I love that Brittany, who is a child of musical theater, dressed like Hamilton, doesn't even realize, like, can't even make a Hamilton joke right there. She doesn't even realize the link. She's like, it's really funny, right? It's almost like we're two founding fathers, but we're having a duel. God, that's so funny. Anyway, it seemed like she was just not contrite enough to apologize when I talked to her. And then I said, okay, well, I can see that what I said was a trigger and it was shady because it was. And Whitney's like, by the way, Whitney also did the makeup on her lip in such a way that her top lip looks like it's touching her nose.

52:26She overdid her line. She made it extend too high. So she looks kind of crazy this entire scene. She's like, so she didn't address verbally attacking you then what did she apologize for hurting my feelings and they just roll their eyes and um so heath meanwhile in the other car meredith is like well we agreed to treat each other with kindness and respect hope that's not gonna last long so heather's like wait a minute so you forgive her and you guys are friends now and she's like well maybe we'll never be friends, but I just don't want to harbor anger. And Whitney's like, wait, you're going to accept her apology like a step forward?

53:07Well, I'm proud of you because I don't think I could do it. And they're mad, of course, because their pawn in this has now settled things, which means that they're going to have to go into this fight against Meredith alone because Brittany has now left their side. And let's also not forget that the reason they're in this fight with Meredith is because Meredith refused to join their side against Lisa on that boat. Remember when they They called Meredith in and were like, we're going to go after Lisa. You're going to do it with me. And then Meredith refused. And then guess who they went after? Meredith.

53:36Immediately after Meredith refused to be their little bestie in film with them, they turned her into an alcoholic and a pill popper. Well, in rumors. She's probably already an alcoholic and a pill popper. So Wendy is like, I'm glad it made Brittany feel good that Meredith gave her an apology. but I would like Meredith to take accountability with everyone because Meredith accused us of lying about it. Yeah, because you were lying about it. In my humble opinion, you were exaggerating, which is a form of lying. Okay. So now they arrive and Angie's like, I thought I was tricked into this. I thought I was invited to a costume party and you guys were coming in ball gowns.

54:21We pioneered all the way over here Oh yes you are Mormon pioneer So Whitney starts putting on lip gloss And Heather's like there was no lip gloss In colonial times But you know what they did have in colonial times A flask A flask I was able to carry because my daughters are moving out of the house So I can have a flask She's my new daughter now And then they show a picture of like George Washington on a bowl or some shit With a flask drawn in she's like you'd be hard pressed to find a colonist without a flask um so then now they're like they're tasting they're they're drinking from the flask and angie k basically just sticks the whole thing in her mouth like no you're getting your lips you're supposed to just pour it into your mouth not suck from it so meredith comes in and they all get quiet again and um well because they're also pissed because lisa is not dressed properly as usual, Lisa refused to do the costume.

55:18Lisa is, yeah, she's sort of wearing a flouncy shirt or blouse that kind of suggests colonial times, but she's like, I'm not doing a costume. And Meredith is wearing some sort of sack shirt that's bundled. It's like a sack of money, but it's a shirt that's all bundled at the top with a drawstring. It's like, this is, you know, it's up there with that crazy outfit but she wore to the flower party. I don't know. She has some real funky looks, this Meredith Marks. Yeah. You can't just say that you're Hamilton. You have to be Hamilton. Well, maybe if you can cite the Gettybergs address. Yeah, I'm sure if I can, if I pull it up on my phone.

56:01Four score and 40 years ago, Whitney was a bitch, and she's still a bitch 40 scores later. Yeah. Where's Mary? So Mary's running late. But in the meantime, this door opens up at the loading dock and there's Bronwyn and she's in this giant black dress, which is actually kind of cool. And she is basically like, come on in. She's like, well, I've been studying for my American Citizenship test to become a U.S. citizen. So I love that everybody is humoring me with this. So if you follow me, come on in here and we're going to play a game that I have constructed and I will get very mad at, even though I knew all along it was a game.

56:39Okay, come on in. Oh my God, are you kidding me? This is all about citizenship? How did I not know this? I would have just called ice a season ago. So Bronwyn is like, well, I think we have to really channel a founding father's look, so everyone have a wig. So there's an array of powdered wigs out on the table for everyone to use. And Bronwyn's like, I'd like to have you step back to 1773. And they're all confused because I feel like they don't even understand. No one knows what the fuck is going on Which is great Yeah

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