#3115 RHOBH S15E02 Part 2 : Whine, Lose, or Draw

0:21Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crapens. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show. Okay, let's go back to the scene. So she's like, I'm best known for my never-ending coffee cup, rich as fuck, which helps women redefine their relationship with money and manifest stuff when it inadvertently has given me the nickname, the Money Queen. You call yourself the Money Queen. I know. Your boyfriend gave you that. Your boyfriend gave you that on Santa Monica Boulevard.

1:01He's like, hey, Money Queen. Oh my God, he's the one. So she's like, what are you guys doing this weekend? And so it's like, well, we're going to a party. It's a small party. It's at my friend's house, Jennifer Tilly. Okay, it's the Boho Cheek, sit in a chair party. She just sits in chairs. That's what she does. So look, it's sip and draw. Okay. You ever heard of that? Manifesty fest. This is the first time we've actually just seen sit and draw. Normally we see the painting, but this time they're like, uh-uh, we are not getting paint on our clothing. It'll be colored pencils. That's it. So Amanda's like, so where are you from?

1:38She's like, I got to Georgia. You know, oh my God, I'm from Sand Springs, Oklahoma. She says it like, oh my God, so close. And you see some be like, those places are not close to each other whatsoever. You are not going to compare Georgia to Oklahoma. Okay. Different part of the South. That's one thing we're not going to do today. Missy. Missy. Manifestor. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And she's like, well, yeah. Yeah. Sound Springs, though, you've heard of it, right? She's like, oh, stop it. I only know Oklahoma when you stop to get gas there. And Amanda's like, what? Oh, right. Because it's in the middle.

2:15Like you stop in the plane between Oklahoma. Okay. I get it. Sun's like, yeah, I'm cause she's clearly Amanda's trying to do a, we're both from the South or we're, but we're like, we're in the South or red state or trying to do some sort of like Alliance Southern. Yeah. And Sun's like, yeah, but I mean the posh South and you're in the flyover, uh, Exxon for airplane South. Maybe you can find someone who's having a painting party that's from Missouri or something. okay hold on um i'm gonna go talk to kyle and then i'm gonna come and talk to you for one second and then go back to talking to kyle we call that stop over that's that's what your state is but no one's really nice to amanda at first which cracks me up i think kyle's like uh this bitch who tore up my floors is coming on the show you guys what are we gonna do well we'll shame her for only getting gas where she comes from i got your back bitch i got your back well remember when vicky Gunvalson got into so much trouble for calling Oklahoma a flyover state.

3:17She's like, why would I go there? Why does Diana go to Oklahoma? You just fly over it. I just looked down on it. You just fly over it. Why would you ever stop there? And everyone got so mad at her. So now we go to Boza's house and it's a sweet scene with her daughter, Lael. She's like, where's my brush? And Lael has it. Okay, let's have a hairdoing scene. So they talk about how Boza wants to be proposed to or whatever and they talk about boys and stuff lael wants keely to uh ask her first before he proposes to bows um so that's that's what she wants and bows is saying um how the three of them have developed a really sweet little relationship together and um you know and she's and she's like i love that you want him to ask me your permission like oh you're my dad That's great.

4:08And she's really proud of Lael for being like, I'm proud of her for taking this dance, but I really hope the answer is yes. Because if she says no, mama's not going to be happy. Yeah, could you imagine? I want him to ask my permission so I can say no. And she's like, well, just make sure before he proposes that I've got my nails done. They need to be fresh within the past couple of days. so it's pretty cute and then we go over to Erica's and she's getting glam and I just it cracks me up how Erica's energy is just so different when she's around the gays when she's around the other women she's like hello I'm doing fine thank you very much going through a traumatic time and when she's with the gays oh yeah wow like everything about her is just so different she's like we're going to telly's house and we're going to paint a draw You know I can't do that shit.

5:03Come on, gays. What do I do? He's like, oh, my God. Are you going to have to, like, abstract, have, like, an abstract approach to it, and they all crack up? Like, it's the funniest thing. Like, oh, yeah, abstract drawing. That's hilarious. So now at Rachel's house, she's in her glam, and the guy is like, or whoever the makeup artist is, is like, will there be, like, a naked man that you're drawing? She's like, oh, my God. I hope not. Like, I die. Because, like, if it's Raj, oh, my God, if it's Raj naked, I'll literally die. I'll be like paralyzed. I can't. I definitely can't. I'm like not going to draw that.

5:34Like, what is this? Like the Titanic? Yeah. Like, what is this? The Titanic? I'm literally frozen to death underwater. Like I can't. Yeah. Like I can't. So Dorit's house, she's like, I'm wearing vintage McQueen. And her stylist is like, please don't wear that little boo-boo. Please. She's like, why don't you like me little boo-boo? It's like, that's the only way to keep PK close to you, Dorit. Just let it go. We see a shot of it and it does look like PK. Yeah. I am so excited for a few years from now when people look back at the LeBubu craze and just like laugh at all the wealthy people who put these stupid things on their Hermes bags.

6:15I hope that whoever invented those comes on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Like I'm the queen of money. I got a bunch of idiots to buy ugly stuffed animals for like$1 ,000. Now I'm rich as hell. like it's one thing like i get like toy fads like that's like i get it but it's just so funny that that these people are so status driven that they are like i am going to attach this stuffed goblin onto my hermes bag it's like this little pointy teeth and like a like a face like it's like a where's the wild where the wild things are it's like a marie sendat stuffed plushie and people just attaching it to their Hermes bags.

6:56It's like the funniest concept. And you know when everyone looks back at their pictures of like, this was me in my peak. And look at the glamorous life island. It's like, why do you have that strange thing attached to your bag? It's like, we're not talking about that anymore. Yeah. Oh, la boo boo. So now we go over to Jennifer's and she's like, well, I really wanted to have a party like to kick off the summer, you know because i did miss kyle summer whatever party outside doing crafts or i don't know what it was but i know my last party at caviar caspia did not turn out so well so i'm gonna have a drawing party because everybody loves art so i have a little surprise for the girls actually it's a big surprise

7:51It's nice to have her back. What a welcome. God, thank God. What a breath of fresh air. So her assistant is like, oh, well, there's some caviar. Oh, God, am I made out of money? Apparently. So Erica arrives and Rachel and Jennifer is like, I've met Rachel socially and I've gone to some events that she's at. And I'm a little bit in awe of her Because she's one of the most famous stylists in Hollywood So I'm a little bit intimidated by how super cool she is I just would love to see Rachel have a face-to-face with the Chucky doll Because I feel like Rachel would not know what to do She's like, literally, that doll It's like, I die It's not gonna kill me Is that Raj?

8:33Is that Caius? Caius, are you there? Speak to me, Caius I think you could do with pleated pants Just like trying to give advice to Chucky I'm not against plugs for men but maybe like a little more subtlety would work so she comes in and then Bo's and Sutton come and Kyle and then Amanda comes oh a stranger is going to come into our midst Sutton invited her friend Amanda hmm so then Rachel's looking around and she's like wow I think everyone did boho chic like really differently which is her way of being like you guys all did it wrong yeah you guys look like i'm the expert everyone else is wearing a potato sack and she comes in like this gold flowy dress she's like oh so i guess we took this directive a little bit differently so jennifer is like oh amanda um you know what you looked like in 1985 chanel where you had all the chanel models and motorcycle jackets and the sort of ball gowns it's a fabulous look she's like oh my god 1985 that was the year that i was born in pretty much the same state of sutton that's crazy oh 1985 really and she's like yeah 85 1985 i was in hollywood selling sandwiches out of a hamper 10 cents a sandwich 25 cents a salad so I would push the salads because I would make more money while she was struggling to get out of the womb I was just struggling so then Dorit shows up I like that they make 1985 sound like the 1910s 10 cents a sandwich sandwiches were not 10 cents in 1985 what is this?

10:33Dorit shows up and Kyle's like hi Dorit this is Amanda she bought my house in Bel Air for me yeah you may have seen her destroying the iconic floors you know chuckleboard floors remember her yeah she's in my house yeah she basically works for me at this point yeah uh-huh uh-huh this is her yeah go meet her oh well how many kids do you have Amunda and she's like I have four and Rachel's like you have four kids you were like just born she's like yeah well I mean the older two are my stepkids and they're nine and seven and Bo goes oh so they're his kids and she goes um well I'm raising them they're my stepchildren she goes oh well I don't know if I like that I don't know if I like another woman calling my daughter her daughter there's only one mama and that's me damn coming for that mom I know I know wow I don't think that was cool I mean, what do step parents say?

11:24Don't they say they're my kids? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I think some say they're my step kids and then some will say it's a blended family. I think it depends on how long or how intimate the relationship is, right? Because they're definitely step parents who just refer to their stepchildren as their kids. So I don't know. But just wouldn't it be bitchy if you were like, how many kids do you have? And then she was like, well, I mean, I have two kids, but then, you know, I also have two other kids at my house. Like I have stepkids. Yeah, I agree. I think it's like, like, it's like you want to treat all the kids as like, like they're, there's no difference.

12:01And so Bo's is, you know, Bo's being like, oh, you mean they're not yours? I was like, oh, I feel like this will be a, this will be an issue going forward. It's going to be an issue. Amanda, you see it in Amanda's face. It's like, okay, the first time I'm on camera with them, they diss Oklahoma and call it a place to get gas. And the second time I'm with them, they diss me for saying I'm a mother of stepchildren. So you see the points start tallying in that brain. So Jennifer's like, okay, well, the invitation said sip and draw, and we've already been sipping. So now it's time for the drawing portion, everybody.

12:38so let's go outside and look at some penises. They go outside and guys drop their robes and there's a lot of wieners hanging out. Let me just say, I'm glad we're not painting teeth or cheekbones because these men were all about the wieners. Otherwise, it would have looked like a LaBubu painting party. Yeah, it was a lot. It was a naked LaBubu painting party. yeah so erica's like well i'll take a bag of dicks over a bowl of fruit anything who cares about still life i was married to that for long enough so then i'm still trying to get a divorce from still life they're drawing and erica's like oh that one over there is not circumcised and kyle's like i mean i've never had a mushroom but like now might be the time to try one so um now there's drinks and stuff and they're all cracking up and be like oh my god penises we are scandalized so um amanda's like so uh do you guys have a mocktail of some kind i can have and because like oh boo you've got to drink alcohol i mean unless you're kyle she's like um it's not exactly that i don't drink ever it's just that i prefer not to drink but i don't know who erica is that thinks she could comment on my not drinking all right am i going to be shamed for good life choices is that her mo i was like oh i love that bitchy response That was so perfect.

14:09I'm going to be shitting for good life choices. I'm going to start making a list of shit that Amanda is going to consider extremely rude. So living in Oklahoma, gas, I'm going to put. Okay, what was the second thing? Stepchildren. Stepchildren. And then mocktail shaming. Mocktail shaming. I think we should start keeping a tally because you know this is going to come up in a fight. And I want to see how many we get, like our bingo card of like, what is the thing that she's going to finally burst her? And then she's going to list all of these other things. So one of the models is, has taken this pose where he has put like his hand on the lower part of his back and is arching his back.

14:55And, you know, and Jennifer goes up. Girl, can we just talk about this pose? He sits on the chair backwards and then sticks his ass all the way out. Is this a Cherry Boys? What are we painting here, sir? Put your cornhole away. So Jennifer's like, I really like your pose. Can you hold that for a long period of time? And he's like, no, it hurts.

15:23It hurts. Amanda was really funny with them. She's like, okay, so I just, sorry, I just accidentally scrolled. What did she say? Okay, she's like, so what about, she's like, has anyone ever ogled you in a way that made you feel uncomfortable? No. Have you ever gotten a boner? No. Have you ever considered your life choices? No. Have you heard of Oklahoma? Yes. Okay, I will draw your penis. Are you a stepchild? So they, you know, pencils down, hands up. So everyone's showing each other their drawings. They're just laughing. And Erica's like, you can tell it was not having sex base on these pictures.

16:04Erica's are like balls dragging like a mile behind the guy. Jennifer's like, I definitely do not think that we have unearthed any artistic geniuses. None of these girls are particularly going to be the next Monet.

16:22So they pick Rachel as the winner. And she's like, wow, literally just flatlined. So then they go inside to get dessert and um catch up so jennifer asks bows how his man is oh such a cutie and kyle are you dating now and she's like um what what am i dating that's crazy no i'm not no what dates i love dates the fruit that is i'm not a fruit wait that's like no wait what huh so Bo's like here we go again why does she have to be such a freak every time they ask her just say no not right like I'm lightly dating but nobody important right now like why does she have to she's like oh my god dating and gets this deer in the headlights look and then it's like oh my god why is everybody asking about me because you look like you're about to have a heart attack every time they ask you yeah she is so unprepared for the nosiest questions that she by the way always asks everyone else all the time so Bo's like here we go again Why can't we just get to the heart of the matter?

17:23Everybody's seen the pictures. We've heard the rumors. Like, you know, either kill it altogether or admit to it. So Kyle's like, Dorit, have you gone on any dates? And she's like, no, because my husband is too busy torturing me. Just this morning, an entire package of chicken salad around at the doorstep. Why does he keep buying it and sending me the bill and then sending me the chicken salad too? It's crazy, the demented games he plays. Oh, is he back in LA right now? Because I haven't checked my location today. Oh, yes, he's back in LA. He came back after being gone two weeks in Europe. My kids are supposed to go to Florida with their grandparents, and they're so excited to go into Florida.

18:04But now, PK, I got a letter today from the lawyer saying, PK is gonna bloke it. Right? From going? from going. Yes, yes, this is true. Just to be mean. God, I love that, man. I love that. And Dorit's like, yes, just to be mean. And Jekka has been walking around like he's got the weight of the world. Have I mentioned the weight of the world yet today? Weight of the world. I don't see my son anymore. I just see a world and two little feet under it because the world is on top of him. Do you know how heartbreaking that is for a mother? And he's been asking for dad. And he's asking for my dad and not his own father.

18:41For my father, Sabah, just like the hummus. And you know what? Five minutes after him arriving, Jagger came into that, into like the same boy that I've been familiar with. Do you know what that's like for me? And going to sleep every night thinking, my God, how are they going to be affected? Gee! I don't even recognize my son anymore. He went from being little sweet Jigga to the Monopoly man and the go to jail card. It was so sad. But then he heard Saba and he's back to New York. Like, okay. And so Kyle hugs her and Sutton's like, well, I'm just breathless watching Dorit crumble in front of everybody.

19:19This is good. She's like, the emotions are taking me back. It's like a time machine. I want to cry with her. It's just heartbreaking, but also really fun. It's like beaches, basically. It breaks your heart by the end, but you want to watch it over and over again. Guys, my kids, they need love and support. and just to be around family. And this is the first time I'm seeing the impact of mine and PK's divorce. And it's ripping my heart out of my chest. It just feels like whatever I'm doing is not enough. Some would say he has the weight of the world on him. So he just wants to be around family. But I mean, PK's his dad.

19:58Like, isn't part of the argument that he doesn't see the kids? So I guess he's wanting to see the kids. But like PK, you're gone all the time. and you were just in Europe for two weeks, they can go to fucking Florida. Okay. Exactly. I think the point is, it's like, yeah, he's the dad, but suddenly he wants to step up to the plate right when she's planned something nice for the kid. And the kid's been begging to go to Florida with grandpa. Yeah, I see that. And then suddenly PK is going to swoop in. No, we all know it's a game. It's manipulative. By the way, I may make fun of Dorit, and I think I speak for both of us probably, that we're like 100 % team Dorit on this.

20:34Oh, 100. We've said get rid of that man for years. Yeah, 110 ,000%. Yeah, and I still can't wait for PK to go to jail someday. I know it's going to happen. It's going to happen. I know it's going to happen. Although Dorit's pretty full of shit herself. But still, team Dorit over PK. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

20:59Well, it's too overwhelming to think about everything. So if the most immediate thing right now is getting your kids to Florida so they can have a good time, let's solve it get those children to florida um the florida mandate the only show where people are trying to flee to florida right now i know right today's climate like oh let's get to florida so um yeah um uh dorit's like yeah he called up he spoke to phoenix and he said okay well if they're going then daddy's gonna come to florida too and we'll We'll all stay in a hotel and you'll be with me. And Kyle says, well, maybe by him going, I mean, if you have to meet in the middle, like if he wants to go to Florida and stay in a hotel, then I mean, why can't he do that?

21:43And Dorit's like, I don't think you understand, Kyle. I'm not dealing with someone who's like, oh, let's meet in the middle. Yeah, but he's saying if he's going to go to Florida and like get a hotel, I mean, let him do that. I mean, that's kind of a win. Like they can go see there and see the grandparents and see him. Kyle, Kyle's such a great friend. And sometimes I forget how good of a friend Kyle is until she steps up in moments like these. Gosh, what I would do to have a Kyle in my life. Yeah. And she's like, but they don't want you, Kyle. It's like, I'm just trying to find a way, like, to be in the middle, like meet in the middle.

22:16She's like, he's doing it to hurt me, Kyle. It's like, okay, like, look, we're not saying, I mean, look, maybe he is, maybe he's not. I mean, I don't know. Like, Kyle, I mean, even if you think that. Look, I think any reasonable advice would be like, OK, well, the complaint is, OK, I'm not going to call it reasonable. I would say I was thinking, OK, you say the dad doesn't want to see the kids. So he does want to see the kids. If he's offering to go to Florida, that doesn't have to be so. But I don't think the actual advice of it is that terrible. But I do think it's her tone. Right. It's I don't think the advice is that terrible.

22:49But you're clearly in a position, you're in a bad position with Dorit already because you were cozying up to her husband and kind of taking his side, which appeared to be taking his side over her. And now she's freaking out over this last thing after he hasn't seen the kids for God knows how long. You don't even talk to her anymore. And you're going to try and be friends with her. And this is the way you're going to do it. I mean, whether you're right or you're wrong with your advice, sometimes it's best to just say, how can I support you? You know what I mean? Because this is crazy. And the thing is what Kyle needs to do, which is what the rest of them do, is you can kind of get the same advice, but you do it in a way that's like, fuck him.

23:24You say, well, then you know what, Dorit? Then you send those kids to Florida. And if he wants to show up in a hotel, he can do it and that's his choice, but you send your kids to Florida, which is essentially the same thing. But Kyle, her tone is more like, well, Dorit, let's not be unreasonable here. Let's not be crazy. You don't know if he's trying to hurt you. Like you're taking this out of, like out of context which is so dismissive and like you want your girlfriend to be like fuck him and if he wants to do this then fuck him and it'll be on him but you keep doing what you do because this is your life and you're an independent lady now like that's the vibe that like Dorit wants from her friends and what she deserves but Kyle's just like treating her like an imbecile which I mean Dorit is an imbecile but you don't want to hear that from your friend yeah I mean wow and And especially when you see it going bad and that she's getting upset to be like, oh, well, is he doing it to hurt you?

24:18Maybe, maybe not. You know, no, no. Like there's a time you just back down and say she's really upset. How do I support you? That's it. That's all you need to do here. It's not that hard, especially in front of a group of people. You know what I mean? Like if you're having a conversation, if you're with a friend who's going through a divorce, my sister went through a divorce last year. And so there's a lot of discussion about divorce and like what's the right way to deal with this? And what's what's the right way to deal with this, you know, without villainizing the guy to the kids? And like, how do we go about this in the best way?

24:48And there's advice maybe she didn't want to hear. But there would never be a time where I would be in front of anybody doing that to her. You know what I mean? It's almost like you support your partner in this situation. My sister, you support your friend. Always publicly. And if you have anything where maybe you're going a little wrong or maybe you're overreacting, you do it in private. I mean, what the hell? And I shouldn't have to teach a girl this. This is like girl code. Yeah. Well, don't forget, Kyle's kind of having the best divorce in history. So like, huh? Like she leads by example. So when you haven't even spoken to her, Kyle, like that's the other thing.

25:28Like you're coming to this after not even speaking to her since the last season after you took his side then. And you're coming back and you're immediately taking his side again. Like, oh, well, I think in Kyle's mind, she's she's saying what you really they need now is like a cool head and don't leave the worst in your ex because like the way to get to healthy co-parenting is to actually have people the benefit of the doubt don't villainize them blah blah blah blah blah but that's not what Dorit wants or needs right now and Kyle's just being a shitty friend to Dorit once again as she has been for the past three seasons so Dorit's like yeah Dorit's like really you could actually have the audacity to say well maybe and maybe not do you know how to ever show up 100 % ever huh?

26:10I'm broken. What more proof do you need? Little jabs, little jabs. That's all I get. You have known me almost 10 years. And how many times have you seen me this way? Well, to be fair, like literally like every episode, Dorit's like, and then I went to get a yogurt and they were sold out. Believe it, they went, they were sold out the crystal bombs. I said to the TV, like for four years, what are you talking about? And Dorit's like, see you, if you're going to help me out, put yourself in me shoes. You have a nine-year-old and it's something, Gibral, that girl, I'm not sure, around there, and they're leaving in 48 hours, and you're telling them they're leaving, and you're telling them to stay with your daddy, see your daddy, and they're crying as they're begging, saying, No, not Piquet, he tried to call me a Funyun and eat me whole.

26:58Please not, Diddy. That's what you think I should do, Coyle? And Bull's like, Well, you need to let him be the bearer of the bad news, And Amanda's like, yeah, let him either show up or not. Manifest that bitch. I'm putting that on the glass. And Jennifer was like. And like you said, yeah, this was the best advice. If he wants to be the bad guy in this situation and change everything up, then that's great. Let him do it. It's not your responsibility to do it. You're the primary caregiver because he's never there. So you do what you're going to do as the primary caregiver. And then his ass can go ruin their dreams.

27:31Absolutely. And Jennifer's like, oh, wow, there's crying. and now there's yelling and this party has really taken a turn for the worse.

27:43And Amanda says, well, just prep them. They're going with the grandparents and they're staying with them and then dad might stop by. And Erica's like, yeah, let him bear the responsibility of those children. He's not going to do it. He won't do it. Come on. Yeah, I'd like to pile on, please. Call his bluff. Like, send them to Florida and be like, when you get there, you're going to love Florida so much. You'll be like paralyzed. You'll be like dead. Like, look at that flamingo. that Flamingo is dead and you're dead and we're all dead in Florida together because it's so amazing and he's not going to show up and if he does it's like one night on the way to like Saint-Tropez which by the way Saint-Tropez I die I love it so much so everybody Dorit's furious she's just yelled at Kyle and everybody's like okay and Kyle just gets up and she's like yeah um I don't want to talk about this I don't think I can talk about that situation anymore and walks away.

28:32And Jennifer's just like, okay, well, I guess another party's over. Another successful party. I would like to thank all the penises for coming. Whatever. And then you just see that one of the guys is still out in the back, swimming in the pool with that kid, like doing butterflies. Angels. So Kyle, of course, makes herself the victim in this. She's like, Dorit responds differently to me whenever I make a suggestion versus the other ladies. But like the other women have never met PK. and whatever Dorit says, they just say yes. Like, what an asshole. What a narcissist. I can't help that I have met this person, have had experiences with this person, and see him in a different light.

29:08That has nothing to do with you being a good girlfriend. Like, we've all met people who we've liked, and then our primary friend breaks up with them, and you take your friend's side. Sorry, that's just what you do. Yeah, stupid Kyle. So now we go to Kyle and Erica over at Kyle's house for the Kyle pity scene. So Erica comes over, who really is who you want when you want to talk about something emotional. You know what? Get Erica. Get Erica over here immediately. So they sit outside in rocking chairs, and Kyle's wearing, like, pilot glasses, but clear. And she's like, so, you know, go ahead, Ben.

29:45What? Oh, I just said I liked them. That's it. I just added an editorial comment. Yeah. So, like, I was telling her, like, you know, about guys taking off their robes. And she was like, so you had to draw a wiener. And I was like, it's been a long time since I've seen any. So, well, you're right. It has been. But that can all change now that you're single. So there you go. Am I setting you up to discuss anything now, Kyle? I'm just so sick of people asking you about my dating life. You know, like, Erica, like, if you were seeing someone that you cared about very much that specifically says, you know, like, please, like, you know, I'm not part of this group.

30:25and, you know, like, be respectful. Like, would you betray that person just because people are curious? She was literally married to that person. Did you not watch your own show, Kyle? Erica's like, I will protect that person for sure. She's like, well, I mean, like, I've always told everybody just to be honest, and I'm always an honest person, you know, and I'm not a liar, but, you know, I don't know what people want from me. I'm single now, okay? Like, you know, I was just, I was seeing someone who I cared about very much, but dot dot dot dot dot. So this is the other thing. She's like, well, you know, you know, I'm not a part of this.

31:02If you were seeing somebody that you cared very much about, that says to me that she's still with this person and she can't talk about it. But then she's like, well, but then we broke up, I guess. So from this, we're taking that she was seeing Morgan. Morgan didn't want to be out of the closet. So Kyle had to keep it in the closet. And then Morgan Morgan dumped her anyway because she's on a show. I think Morgan was out of the closet. I think it was that Morgan was uncomfortable with being thrust into the spotlight or maybe didn't anticipate it. No, Morgan's not out of the closet. Really? No, yeah.

31:35She's not gay or bi. She refuses to talk about it in her own interviews and stuff. I think the last time she ever talked about a relationship was a boyfriend who's in her band. He's like one of the guys in her band. And they used to be in a relationship and that ended. And that was when she was younger. so she hasn't talked about it yeah she doesn't talk about it so yeah she's closeted that's what kyle said she's like i'm dating i'm dating a closeted person and they don't want to be out of the closet and so shouldn't i respect that i mean that does in my mind that does add like a wrench into all my previous pontificating because you don't want to out someone um yeah that's a that's a that's a real humdinger right there change what i was saying because i mean i already knew that so to me it's still the same thing it's like okay but you're you're the one who doesn't want to talk about it but you still brought it on tv and then did that video where you were like in a bathtub and making out with kyle and then doing all that so like i get it but it's like you're having fun with the hinting about it but you don't want to talk about it but this is like a reality show where you talk about things so yeah i mean well it affects what i said before when I was like, wow, Kyle can't even say that she's in a relationship with a woman.

32:49I understand that. I understand not wanting to out someone, and I think that's fine. But I'm surprised. I always thought Morgan Wade was an outing grad lesbian. And I did not realize that she is actually, like, we don't know what her sexuality is. Oh, yeah, yeah. She's still closeted. So she says that um when she was married when she was separating from mo you just said she's still closeted she is no it's funny because it's like we're not gonna out anyone we're not gonna out she's still closeted because that's what's talking about that's that's what's so ridiculous about this whole thing it's like oh my god you guys we can't talk about morgan's being gay but we all know that she is at least bi but we can't say that like it has to be that's it's like this it's like being out of the closet but not having to suffer the repercussions of it in some way.

33:49It's like, okay, I don't know how to explain it, but obviously she's talking about Morgan, so she still is talking about this relationship. Everyone's not stupid. We all know what she's talking about. But by not saying Morgan, she technically didn't out her, so it's okay. It's like, what is this? You're already talking about it. No, I'm just laughing at the idea of being respectful being like, hey, it's not up to us to out someone and everyone's on their own journey, so we are not going to speculate on someone's sexuality because she's still closeted. Well, I know. She's still closeted, is basically saying like, we know what you are.

34:24Well, because she's saying it, because it's on the show, it's just how they're presenting it. And that's what I was saying at the beginning. Normally my stance is like, we shouldn't out people. You know, like I go with that stance. That's like a pretty normal stance in our community. But this case is different because they themselves have presented it differently. And now it's this big word salad that we're all supposed to say so that you don't actually suffer the repercussions, even though you guys are the ones who did it. And you guys are also making it sound like being gay is this huge villainous.

34:53It's becoming worse. In other words, like you not talking about it is making it worse for everybody. Like at this point, just for fuck's sake, just say we dated, but we don't want to talk about it. Because at this point, you're just making us all do somersaults over your stupid decisions. I know. I will also say, if you happen to be someone who is in the closet and you decide to date a reality star, maybe don't do that if you're still in the closet. You're not going to be in the closet anymore. I respect someone coming out on their own terms or even never coming out at all. But like also like, you know, consider these things if you want to stay in the closet.

35:38Maybe don't make like videos with you where it's about, you know, just just just consider consider these options. Don't do scenes where you're like feeding each other on camera and giggling with your arms around each other. Stuff like that. Like if you're if you're not worried about it. But yeah. So she says, separating from Mo, she was in a relationship. And by the way, it was before separating from Mo, just to correct the record. And she's like, and I was at a very vulnerable place. She was at a very vulnerable place, and she fell really hard. And, you know, she's in love with somebody. She wants to share that because she's an open person.

36:16But it doesn't mean the person she's with feels the same way. So I'm guessing what happens. All my judgment aside, I'm guessing what happens. She starts DMing this chick on Instagram. they start hanging out they start flirting they start maybe hooking up now and then and it was a fun flirty thing like oh there's all these rumors about us now let's make this music video just making fun of the rumors because that would be fun and then it backfires to where everyone's like oh my god Morgan's a lesbian and then it has to become this big PR thing because she's in country music and then it becomes this nightclub for her and then it's like okay well let's just not talk about it anymore which didn't work because that was a whole year of people questioning it and so i mean i get how it would be a conundrum um for kyle yeah a hundred percent and that's why it like throws a wrench into everything that i was thinking and saying earlier because before i was thinking that kyle was in a relationship with an out person and so her being like cagey like did not really make sense but if her coming out then makes forces someone else out that is a much more in delicate situation so i have to like i have to like go back into into my fortress of solitude and consider my stance on this because i think it's actually it's more it's more complex than like a sort of like a flippant off the cuff hot take you know deserves or i should say not deserves but like then it deserves more than like an off the take off the cuff take but um i'm like i'm clearly like so surprised about this like i really cannot believe it anyway so kyle is going and she's saying she's like oh the speculation all the talking is what ultimately ended it and i could have weathered the storm but this is not for everyone i'm like well yeah the speculation yeah i guess what bothers me is i hate how she turns it on us like we destroyed this thing that she that's what's making me crazy like stop making making me feel bad that you did this.

38:12You did it. I don't care if you're gay. I literally don't care. I mean, if Kyle came out and Morgan came out, I would be rooting for both of them even though Kyle makes me crazy. Like I would, I think that that would be ballsy. But the way you're doing it is not ballsy. And it's not like you have a responsibility to come out and all that stuff, but you're the one who set this up and now you're making us feel bad about it. And that's, I just don't like that. Like stop criminalizing everybody else. You guys did this to yourself. Now just proud already and stop. and if country music is going to be that way it's too late you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube okay so country music to fuck the fuck off and get on with your life this is to don't live in fear like this it's crazy and stop trying to appease a community that you are think will not accept you because you know like that's no way to live either so kyle is like she's like well i don't understand it's like people think they're oh they're owed an answer and if it was only me I would give all the answers that they want, but it's just like, not only about me.

39:08Well, there are two people here, not just one person. Thank you, Erica, for half listening to whatever Kyle's saying and giving that very perfunctory amount of advice. Yeah, but also to what Kyle's saying, you've got a choice to make. You're either going to go for the love or you're going to go for the, for the, and I'm not saying like you should do it over someone you're just dating. Like, I'm not saying she should have done this years ago. But if it's to the point now where you can't be a reality star because you can't talk about your life or you can't be with like the love of your life, like choose one, you know, just choose.

39:40Or maybe she did. And that's why she's sad. Yeah. But Kyle is the one who's often pressed people for answers for years and years and years. And now she's like, people want answers. And sometimes they're just aren't answers. I'm like, well, that's what's also frustrating because you're being inconsistent with us. So Erica's saying, imagine getting out of close to a 30-year marriage, unexpectedly fall in love with someone, but you can't talk about that love because you decided to put it out in front of everyone, but you can't talk about it. That's a really hard place to be. Even though this relationship is over, the women are still going to question Kyle until she addresses it once and for all and clears everything up.

40:16so kyle's like i mean if this person weren't so afraid of public scrutiny and life under a microscope and erica's like well when you love someone and you're projecting someone it sucks because you can't be free and uh she says that until she says kyle is the most honest with herself she's ever been and she's open and understanding and finally willing to be vulnerable you're in a rock and a hot place kyle i don't really know what to say in these things i'm just gonna kind of just say something that's the way the cookie crumbles can't have your cake and eat it too no soliciting i read that one on a door once i really like that which means wet floor yeah so i don't know so this was the coming out of coming out as being in the closet episode guess is what we can call it like i'm out of the closet about being in the closet where's my float so I guess we'll see what happens on that end alright everyone thank you so much for being here please don't forget to join us on Monday for both Amazon live and crappy hour our last crappy hour of the year we can't wait check our social media for the times etc at watch what crappens and we will catch you on Monday bye watch what crappens would like to thank It's premium sponsors.

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