#3143 Married To Medicine S12E05: OctoPurse-y

0:286011 And everybody, welcome to the show. We are here for Married to Medicine. Today is season 12, episode five, Baggage Claim. You can also find this on video over at Patreon or a week later for free on YouTube. Also, we are with a new network now. We're with ACAST. So hi, ACAST. And thanks for everything, Wondry. You were great. We loved being with you. But now we're with ACAST. So goodbye. Good luck. And just for all of you who are wondering where ad-free went, we will still be having an ad-free option. It will be moving over to Patreon, but it's going to take a while to get 3 ,000 episodes over.

1:07So give us a minute. But yeah, ad-free will still be available over on Patreon at the lowest tier. So that'll be there. That's also where you get bonus episodes. And it's also where you get these videos every day. So that's what's going on with us. How are you doing today, Ben? Doing just great. Happy to be back. Happy to be on the microphone and talking some merit to medicine. How about you? Merit to medicine. Me too. Love this show. I don't want a life without Heavenly. You know, when this season was starting back up and they said Heavenly was only going to be a friend of, I was not happy. I'm still not happy, to be honest.

1:47But, gosh, she makes me so happy when she's on my screen just dragging Toya. He was quite deserving of dragging, by the way. A lot of times it's Heavenly's fault. This time, no, it's Toya's fault. And I love every Heavenly second I get. I want to move so I can vote for Heavenly. Yeah, Heavenly is hilarious. And where we left off, Toya and Eugene had just had this party where Toya had a meltdown. And she sort of went at Eugene and said all sorts of insulting things. like be a leader, lead the man. Cause she just wanted them to play a party, a party game where she was going to humiliate Eugene of like, who has like, who can get into the best shape for going to the Caribbean.

2:33So now it's the aftermath. Yeah. She wanted to have a game where she could humiliate Eugene with like a sports thing and hula hoops. And then he didn't want to play it. So she humiliated him by screaming at him in front of all their friends and cursing him out. So it's typical. Oh yeah. It's typical Toya to do this. She's done it season after season, as we see in a clip later today. And she's an asshole. And I love that she never gets it. Because that's something else that's really good about Toya. Toya never learns. Toya never changes. Toya gets worse, I think, with every year. She doesn't get better.

3:08But it gets more fun to watch. Yeah. Yeah. She is. My favorite thing is the opening credits. More in the interstitials where you just see Toya standing with the group, like, hunched over. like who put a dent in my car door that's the look in her face she's like who would draw with crayons on the dining room table Avery did you leave this milk out here like she's just ready to scold us she's trying to be sexy and like and be like ooh me and there's like one shot where like when you know when they're like going to a Toya scene they have like a close up on her face like Toya and she just is like trying to serve a look and it's just not working and it actually really reminds me of season two of Top Chef or season three of Top Chef.

3:53This was like the origin of our Gail and Padma joke because in the promos for that season of Top Chef, they would show Gail Simmons and they had like a it was like a wind machine in her hair and she was like trying to like look at the camera like I'm Gail Simmons. Top Chef is coming back. But then Padma will come on and be like, Hi, I'm Padma Lakshmi. I'm a super model looking for a Gail. She's trying to serve CU and you know what the rest of that is. And she just can't do it. too bad and that's like what's what toy toy is serving gail simmons yeah um and it's hilarious it's it's menacing i will say it's it's a it's a bizarre choice that they went with on this opening so ujine has set up pool down in the basement he's just like waiting at the sad little table and he calls her down and she's like why are you sitting at this table and he's just at the sad table like a family meeting looks like he looks like he's at the part where he's already test driven his the the honda and now he's ready to sign some paperwork and so they've put him at a table and they're gonna make him wait a little bit before someone comes and helps him like he's ready he's ready to decide what he's gonna add on to his model his like his crv i actually just went through that experience uh getting my niece a car my niece needed a car so we were getting her car and man they are so nice to you when you're on that lot and the second they sit you down at that table they just start they bend you over and they just start pounding you yeah every single oh by the way the interest rates are 10 get the fuck out of here i just spent six hours here sir you waited until six hours later to tell me this and they have that tech they do i swear to god i think it's purely just some sort of negotiating um lever that they pull i don't think they ever have to do this.

5:40They'll be like, oh, so wait, you said you want air conditioning in your car. Hold on one second. And they leave with a little circular table for 25 minutes. And then they come back like, uh, yeah, it looks like we can add air conditioning to your car. I'm like, we, I know you can add air conditioning. You just let me sit here at the table for a long time. It's like some sort of tactic. So like you sit at that table for hours and hours and hours. Yeah. We were, we wanted the car for like 4 ,000 less. And what, you know, whatever we did the, the numbers and all that. We're like, we can get this car for 4 ,000 less somewhere else.

6:12And so they were like, okay, okay, we can do that. Are you sure you can do it? Yeah, we can do it. So we sit down at the table and of course the, the little guy comes up, it's the same price. And I said, this is not the price. And he said, oh, well, you see, normally what we do is when we sell you a Toyota of round rock, by the way, is who I'm talking about. You dumb asses. When we actually sell you the car, we charge you$4 ,000 above this, for all this stuff, like a coating on your car and a tinting on your car, this other$4 ,000 package, which we didn't order anyway. But they said, we charge you this on top of the car, but we won't put that stuff on.

6:50So we'll leave that off. I was like, okay, so you're gonna give us a bunch of stuff that we didn't ask for, but you're still not gonna give it to us, but you're not gonna charge us for the stuff we didn't ask for and keep the car at the same price. Goodbye, goodbye. And they're like, well, is there anything we can do? And I was like, yeah, you could tell me what you told me six hours ago instead of making me sit here like an idiot i would rather drive across town than ever do this with you again and they're still texting me like oh you're coming back no i'm not coming back you jackasses you you're tinting get the fuck out of here that's crazy that's so yeah the point is eugene is having a family meeting with toya at the pool in the pool room so they're gonna play pool and he's like i was making margaritas to make up for yesterday you might notice i have two margarita machines sure we just need one but who cares we'll make you some margaritas without actually any like margarita glasses.

7:39Well, actually, no, he's got tumblers, so that's okay. I think you're ready to bring them down for their glass choice. Well, because they have a whole little scene with their glasses. They seem like they don't know what to do, right? They've never made margaritas before, it seems like, even though they just did the last episode outside, but they look, they have like a debate over what sort of glasses should go into, and it's actually hilarious because, you know, Toya's like, what about a mason jar? We can use a mason jar. He's like, well, what about a, let's do a cocktail glass. She's like, and a cocktail glass.

8:09Like she's never had a margarita and a cocktail glass. She's like, Toya's horrified. She thinks it's the craziest thing she's ever heard. So anyway, Eugene. You know what they need on this channel is they need a hookup with decent pina colada machines or margarita machines, frozen drink machines because they just suck on this show, on this channel. We just saw it on Southern Charm. They couldn't make them on this. This one, it was all watery as well. I mean, come on. somebody's got to step into this market and make it like slime. Yeah. So, um, Eugene is telling us that he doesn't like having conflict.

8:38He likes to resolve things quickly. And she's like, well, I actually handled things. I handled things head on. And if I see what, if I see that they're going in a certain way, he's like, yeah, like a collision. She's like, yes, exactly. Absolutely. He's like, okay, well I'm starting, you know, I started to think, what did I do wrong? It's just no, no. Cause usually they'd like it, like if something else happens, He'll put it right on top of that. And then he blows up. And he's like, I think you're projecting. Because Eugene did not blow up, ever. We've never seen Eugene blow up. Toria, you blew up.

9:09So he's like, okay, let's get the heavy lifting out of the way where I apologize for doing nothing wrong. And then you nod and accept it. He's like, so one, I've been doing a lot of thinking. And I want to say, I'm sorry. I misjudged what the party meant for you. But I do feel like you need to take a little ownership with what you said in front of people who we don't even feel safe around. Because there were a lot of emasculating jokes. Dun, dun, dun. Okay, the emasculating joke was about your penis size. And that comes from Toya complaining about your penis size to all the ladies. So why are you blaming Heavenly?

9:45Toya did that. Yeah. And Toya's like, well, at that party, it was like, you looked at me like I was one of them. And I'm like, when did I become just one of them? Because I said to be a leader, lead the man. be that person, be a wonderful leader in history. I should be able to use words like leader. He's like, yeah, you didn't really say it like that. The way you said it was hurtful. He's like, yeah. He's like, okay, here's what I own. I played too much. I should have left you alone because I do know that you need to have some space. I shouldn't have cursed. I shouldn't have let your friends get in my head because I don't like it when they talk about me.

10:25I shouldn't have been upset when your friends had had a small dick. And then I shouldn't have been upset when you wanted to further emasculate me by making me do a hula hoop thing and then take off my shirt. I shouldn't have been upset by those things. So now what did you do? She's like, uh, thank you for your apology. I'm sorry for throwing a really good party that you ruined. Yeah, I don't really know what else from there. Yeah, I like that she just goes, thank you for your apology. She goes, okay, well, what did I, okay, I was being pushy. And what I did second, I shouldn't respond when people pull me into a negative scenario.

11:07No, you are the negative scenario. What are you talking about? No one did this to you. You did this. And she's basically blaming him. She's like, I forgive myself for letting myself be negative because you made me. Yeah. So she's like, I definitely could be better at feeding you more words of affirmation because I do it for the boys and I take it for granted that sometimes, you know, like, you know, you're working really hard and like, I guess it's nice that I can depend on you. She like sort of had, I think she went to chat GPT and was like, what should I say to Eugene right now? It's like one thing you could do.

11:43That's a great question. One thing you could do is you could say thank you for supporting me. I really do appreciate you. And I sometimes forget to appreciate you. Okay, great. That's what I'll do. She's like even though you all got a lot He's like okay you can leave that part out Well I used chat UGT So sorry She's like but man you know it's nice that I could depend on you And he goes okay And you appreciate pool And she's like yeah but I would like it if we could play spades more And he's like no Because you know every time I play spades it turns into a fight And she's like honey that's what all black people do And then they laugh So now we go to Brandy's house and she is giving...

12:25If it helps, I've never played a game of spades that hasn't turned into a fight either. Maybe it's the game. I don't know. It's an evil game. Hearts also sucks. That's also a fight. Hearts just doesn't really go anywhere interesting, you know. So Brandy's house. Brandy is one of our new cast members. I really like Brandy a lot. I think she's giving a good Greek chorus energy. so she's giving pizza to her kids and everything and Angel and Mimi come over it's sort of like a newbie scene so Brandy you know the kids are all there and Brandy's like you know you could have brought Stevie and Mimi's like yeah I'm not gonna do that to you okay like my baby he's kind of he's like broken TVs at people's houses and they're like oh yeah and so Mimi's just saying like there's lots of twists and turns when parenting a child with special needs and see if you were here i would have to have one eye over there and one eye on him and she's basically like yeah this is we're gonna leave him at home in this case yeah and they're talking about how long they've been married both about 10 years and brandy says uh it's been 10 years for her and she's like and you know we miss out on all the gossip like i need to know what's going on on the streets so you guys need to tell me and uh they start laughing and she's like i mean i could be at least be entertained you know because i have single friends and I'm like what that's a thing which is true I'm single and I still hear from single friends and I'm like what the fuck you did what with your wear huh yeah what does this app do again this app locates you in whatever bath you like what what angels basically are like all eyes on angel the resident single girl of this group right now and they're like so angel what's it like out there what's happening would you want to date someone do you want to date what do you tell us all about them and show us pictures.

14:12Do you want to swipe? Let's do some swiping. So Angel's like, you know, my, my life is just, it's just so wrapped up into working and taking care of kids. But like, I do want to date. I would love to, I just, I would love to find an amazing man that could just come in and ignite my softness, which that's kind of a funny turn of phrase.

14:32I just want someone to come in here all exciting and full of energy to make me soft. but angels angels kids are named okay she's angel and I forget what their I forget their names but it's like angel worship and church or something it's like angel worship and bible so angel and heaven it's a little wings

15:06my children pearly gates and psalms are we playing pyramid with our children right now okay angel heaven um um um um um um okay we uh i have a new i have a son named pearly and i also have a dog named gates come on um um um um um is it i have a stepchild named satan he is named satan okay uh uh is it purgatory yes that That is correct. That is correct. Okay, what's the next round? This is my niece, you better pray. Okay. Like, what's the next round? It's like, there's another round. I mean, our names are permanent. Yeah, yeah, we're doing more than one round of Pyramid Angel. You do have more children for this game, right?

15:51Don't. So she says that being a single mother doesn't come with a manual. I like when people say that. I love that. It's not easy being a parent. It doesn't come with a manual. Well, neither does being a kid. Okay. Nothing comes with a manual. I don't know. Read some books. Let me tell you something. There's plenty of manuals for being a parent anyway. There are manuals, actually, now that I think about it. There's like, love your kid harder or whatever they're called, like tough love. Have you read some of the manuals lately that are coming in with some products? Manuals are not helpful. Yeah, man.

16:30It's just it comes with an L rent. Your kid comes with an L rent and something called a florbity jerk. Yeah, exactly. There's some arrows and then there's some broken English. And you just have to do the best that you can. Okay, we're all in the non-manual land at this point. Oh, here's our children's name. So Heaven's dad played professional basketball and Savior's dad, we were engaged. I think Savior is just a lot to live up to. I wonder if they're religious. also savior just keeps disappearing they're like oh my god when is savior gonna return well we just want him to work at complex magazine just for the pun of it all that's really it

17:13so she is the mom and the dad and so uh brandy's all about the cliches she really is she's like being a mom doesn't come with a manual i'm basically the mom and the dad that's the way cookie grumbles. I'm not going to cry over spilled milk. I wish there was a lot in my household. Two in a hand are better than two in a bush. Am I right, Savior? So Brandy's like, what's the most important thing you're looking for a man? His wiener, his brain? And she's like, no, none of that. I don't need an anaconda. I don't need that. So they're asking about the last person she dated. And she's like, I mean, it was weird.

17:50And they're like, you're in a safe space. You're actually with two medical providers. That's so condescending because she's angels are registered nurse. They're like, you're with two people who have actual advanced degrees. We're, we're bad. You're with doctors, not nurses right now. Angel, you get to be with the, you get to sit at the bed with the big dogs. Yeah. I've been, I've been in, I've been in some conversations with some medical providers lately and it seems great when you're in the office and then you get the bill where nothing is covered and everything's$90 ,000. Okay. No, I don't trust you.

18:21Yeah. Well, also what's so funny is that Angel is being elusive about what she wants. And they're like, come on. Come on. You're in a safe place. You can tell us. And Mimi's like, we can read between the lines. And Angel's like, yeah, everyone. This is a safe place. This is a safe place. Tell us. And then this teeters into just gossip about the other women. I was like, wait, we didn't get to find out what Angel wants in a man. She won't say. They're like, why are you deflecting? Because she doesn't want to put all this business out on TV yet. She's not ready, I think. That's what she's just a friend of.

18:50yeah she's like i'm not doing that i'm not being paid enough for this i'm getting five dollars a day to be on the show so no yeah so uh they're like yeah this is a safe place unlike the rest of the group so they're like and they're like is anyone is like who's safe to talk to no one's safe to talk to i don't know why i said to talk to to talk to so mimi is like yeah at toya and Eugene's house warming, there was some deflecting and they called you out. And Brandy's like, yeah, I know. I was caught off guard. Why was I called out? This is the second time in a row that Brandy's been called out out of nowhere because Contessa called out Brandy when Brandy was being nice to her and now Toya called out Brandy.

19:32I feel like Brandy's so nice and they just keep on going for her. I think just because they're new. So they're like, well, let's yell at the new people too so that they can feel like they're included. I think it's almost being nice. Let's just yell at this rando. we'll give them a shot, you know, but it never really works. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.

19:59So they're talking about this whole big thing and they don't know why they were called out. And Mimi saying, you know, you, you can tell when someone was trying to poke and poke and the owner of the house said she was going to kick out some hating ass bitches, but I'm not a hating ass bitch. And that was nighttime. Mimi. I forgot about nighttime. Mimi. Night time Mimi. Mimi after dark. So Angel's like, well, she felt like somebody was hating or somebody said some things that will affect her marriage. Mimi's like, well, if that's the case, that is imaginary. I mean, Siri, please play Drew Sedora, DeLulu.

20:37DeLulu, everyone? Anyone? No? How much did you get paid to say that? That was crazy to hear that song brought up randomly. I liked it. I was proud of Drew. I actually thought that was funny and I was proud of Drew. And it was nice for everyone to laugh and be like, who's that? It was nice to hear everybody's Siri across the country go, hmm? Yeah. I'm not familiar. So now we go to Simone having lunch with her sister Carmen. And Simone's like, it's always fun when we're together. together. We haven't had a trip together in a long time, though. And apparently they had a trip in January, which I'm going to say is not a long time.

21:24I don't know when this was filmed, but I'm going to say if it was within the calendar year, it's not a long time. It's never a long time from January. I don't know why I'm taking a stance on this. I'm like, guys, Simone says it's been a long time since they've had a trip. I think they've had a trip. Simone is lying. Simone the liar. Hey, Siri, please play DeLulu by Drew Sedora. Talked about DeLulu with her time frames. So she talks about her sister, Carmen, being her best friend, etc. Blah-de-blah. And I wish Carmen was on the show more. I like Carmen a lot. She was awesome. Yeah, I really liked her.

22:03I don't know. It's weird. It's weird that we're just meeting Carmen. And she's like, I tell Carmen everything. Where in the world is Carmen? Where in the world is Carmen? San Diego, maybe. I tell Carmen everything. What I'm wearing, what I ate for lunch, and especially when Cecil is getting on my nerves. So they're talking about Cecil, and she's crying. And she's like, Cecil's never on my side, which is a great point. And Cecil better watch his ass. I'm going to ask this every week. I know I've asked this every week since the beginning of time. Does Cecil work? I don't think so. I don't know. Cecil better get it together.

22:43Otherwise, he can go from Cecil to Sausal. Okay? Let's get this to you. Also, one thing that we never... Cecil to see ya! See ya, Sol! That's better than Sausal. But one thing we never brought up, but someone in social media did a few weeks ago, is that when those kids made that dinner before they tried to ask for a new car and everything, what was so funny is that they had gotten takeout and they had put the takeout into, like, disposable pans and heated it up. someone pointed out that when they poured the stuff out of the pans the pans still had like the labels on them they put the food in the oven on disposable pans that still had the plastic labels and you guys want and you guys want a free car when you can't even take the plastic label off of your metal disposable pan come on now come on yeah but also like do we blame simone for this Like there are some things that I'm like, your kid just fed you plastic.

23:40That's a social fault. Like whose fault is like, it's got to, at some point we have to like blame the parents. You know what I mean? I know you can't blame the parent for every little thing. God knows my parents don't deserve every, you know, the blame for every crime I've ever committed. But some of them they do. And I would like to think like if I put a fork in the microwave or something like that, they would be blamed. Sometimes it's okay to criminalize parents is what I'm saying. I think this is I'm going to I'm going to give this one to Cecil because I think Simone is off. You know, most busy.

24:11You're right. Yes. Simone's busy. And Cecil is like allegedly had a startup for like, you know, hiring kids to do chores. So like he's literally in the space of overseeing children being responsible. And so like it's on him to teach the kids to take the plastic off of your metal tins before. But maybe he wanted to have that business where kids had to work because he couldn't get his own kids to do chores. So he wanted to hire neighborhood kids to do the chores because his kids wouldn't do them. It's all making so much sense. I'm like upset about this. I'm really upset about this pasta thing. So Carmen, so basically venting about Cecil, et cetera.

24:47And she says, Simone's saying that like this all happened and, you know, the whole fight and everything and how, how Cecil was very quiet. quiet. Um, and basically, uh, we cross cut this scene with Cecil's brother, David going down to Cecil's basement bar and Cecil's talking, you know, David just has gotten divorced and he's moved to Atlanta. And, uh, first they start talking about the divorce and everything. And Cecil then starts saying, see, a lot of times you and Simone and I, we're not even in the picture. And David's like, yeah, you know, Simone, that's my sister. And I mean, we've known each other since the nineties.

25:28And like, that's not an in-law. Okay. She's, and she called me and she was hurting. And when you see your wife upset, the first thing you do is create a united front with your wife. Because at the end of the day, we know this for a fact, when these kids move on, they're gone. But the person that's going to be by your side is her wife. He's basically saying, you fucked up. Well, he's also saying, I just got divorced. So do you want to do what I did? Okay. Then support your wife. And Cecil's just like, no, I'm sitting here drinking free liquor in the basement bar she bought me. So, no, I do not want to support her.

26:01And Cecil's getting on my last fucking nerve. And especially in this next clip where we get back to Cecil and he starts screaming and yelling about it. When we've never seen this kind of energy out of Cecil ever until this. And it's like, you don't make that money, sir. That money comes from her. So please stop saying we, we, we and RRR. That is her money. You don't do anything. Your kid's app is a failure, okay? What have you sold? What have you sold in real estate? Tell me. I don't believe you have a job and you don't get to be making decisions like this and not supporting your wife. Yeah. The only reason why Cecil is getting any sort of grace from me is because I just love saying the name Cecil.

26:34God, it's so fun. Cecil. But like Cecil is like, it's probably like a top 1 % fun name to say, right? Cecil. Well, isn't it like a cute mouse from a cartoon? I think he needs to keep that energy. I feel like Cecil the mouse would be supportive. Here are the names. here are two names that will give me that will like automatically get like a little bit of grace for me for no good reason which is cecil and chauncey i love those names those are just a good one yeah i love chauncey is like i love i love i love a chauncey i love i have a friend named chauncey and i think i'd like him i think a good portion of reason why i like him is just because his name is chauncey and because he brings you alcohol while you're sitting in your drawing room?

27:18I mean, what is he? Your butler? I've never known a real person named Chauncey. I thought that was like a butler name. A real Chauncey. And one of our listeners went to college with him. She came up to me in Cincinnati and was like, I went to school with Chauncey. And I was like, you know Chauncey? Did he bring around her car often? Excuse me, Chauncey, that Chauncey is for R.I.P. Chauncey on Southern Charm. Yes, he was pre - that Chauncey, yeah. and post you see he's got life there's chauncey billups the basketball player was just arrested as part of a giant like gambling ring thing and i was like that's terrible that he participated but his name is chauncey so i think you should let him go

28:06chauncey billups okay i know i wonder if we ran numbers like how many people in prison are even named chauncey probably none i feel like that's a pretty scot-free name you know you get off with That's an adorable name. Yeah, people just want you to serve. It's like a serving name. So we go back to Simone, and she's talking about how her husband, Cecil, was raised in a very iron-fisted home. His dad was really strict, and now he's going the opposite way in raising his kids, where he's like the sweet one, the fun one, and the nurturing one, and Simone now has to be Papa Whitmore. and so um carmen the sister is like well you know people of his generation they overcompensate for what they didn't get from their fathers and they didn't get the affection so now he's overcompensating so you know you have to agree on the limit and she's like but we can't agree on limits if he has no limits what are you looking at tesla's to buy my son i know which is where this all winds up going, by the way, for people who have not paid attention.

29:08So back to Cecil. And he's like, look, okay, here's the beauty. Here's the blessing from God. Our parents worked their hands to the bone. So we wouldn't be in the same situation as them. So we would have more money so that our boys don't have to stand in the financial aid line. Like I said, for three hours at Morehouse to get, to get, you know, mine. Okay. And when I came up, I said, you know what? My boys are never going to stand in the line for financial aid. Cause that is something I'm going to make sure of because that's the way it's supposed to be. We're supposed to be moving as black people.

29:38We get so caught up that we struggled and we struggled. So we, so we all have to struggle all the time because we are, we're going to be struggling forever. He's basically like, look, we're trying to get general generational wealth and we need to like use it. And I think, I mean, I think that like, there is a point to that, right? Like you, you work hard. So that way the generation under you can be better and better and better. But also there's something I believe that like the younger generation has to kind of show up too. So like, if you've got a kid who's just like, buy me a new car, that's different from saying like, I put in a lot of work.

30:15I've been like a good student. I've been, I've been working really hard, try to better myself. And then, you know, the parent says, I'm going to help you along the way. But if you have the kids that are just relying on that, I think that's what Simone is like. No, no, no, no. There's difference between trying to support your kids versus enabling spoiled brats. And I'm not saying these kids are spoiled brats. necessarily. Well, he was acting like a spoiled brat in the last episode for sure. They are definitely acting a bit entitled. And Simone's like, uh, I'm not going to do that. I think it's great.

30:41I think it's great when parents can, can pay it forward to those generations. And I totally get what Cecil is saying. But the truth was ultimately Simone was like, uh, I don't like this. And Cecil should have been backing up his wife in that instance. Even if he disagreed with her, they could talk about it later and say, look, your mom and I were talking and we decided that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But right in that moment, you've got to support Simone Cecil. Yeah, and I agree with what you're saying, like generational wealth and all that. And I can see what he's saying as far as that being important.

31:13And it's something new to him that he's glad to bestow upon his children and all that. But that doesn't mean giving your kids everything and making them do nothing. That's bullshit. It means like helping them when you can and teaching them to be responsible adults. I mean, we see so many kids in this world who are given everything and who turn into fucking assholes, you know? I mean, we're in LA. We're surrounded by these people. They're assholes. They're horrible people. And nobody likes them, okay? Nobody real likes these people. Like, you have to teach your kids how to work for what they get in addition to, like, them having the benefits of getting help.

31:49And, you know, Cecil does this whole monologue and says, like, I don't want them waiting in the financial aid line and stuff like this. Okay, I get that. But he's making it sound, first of all, it's not necessarily like that from what I, I mean, applying for scholarships and stuff like that. It's also graduate school. Yeah. Graduate school is different than college. I'm sorry. He's just a little too lit up over this for someone who's not paying for it. And that's the end of the day for me. Like, that's what it is for me at the end of the day. It's like, sir, she is the one out making all this money.

32:23Double, because she's the star of this show, too, or a star of this show. I would. and she's working her ass off and it's not like you're doing all this stay at home dad stuff you built yourself a bar sir you know what i mean like she's doing it you don't get to just go spend this money and i know when you're married it's both of your money but not to this degree i'm gonna say let's you've just taking out the idea like oh she brings all the money because i think if if it were reversed i would hate it if like the wife doesn't get a say just because like like a stay-at-home mom who's well but just to amend it just to amend it though because in that situation a lot of times the wife is the stay-at-home mom and she's doing all the caretaking, which is another job.

33:01That's like a totally different thing. Cecil doesn't do that. Cecil's not sitting at home making their lunches, doing carpools and all of that shit. Those boys are away. They're at school. Cecil's not doing anything. And Simone's still out there working her ass off. So that's why I think it's different. I think what's more offensive is that he's more, he's fired up about this. And I feel like he should have shown some energy to be like, don't talk to your mom that way. Not that the kids really set off to her. He did. He did. He did. He did sass after her. But she said, what are you what are your plans to do this?

33:29And he said, well, my mom makes money. I hear my mom's pretty rich. Like, you're lucky I don't have a fly swatter. Yeah. Also, the thing is this. What I was going to say before a little bit was that, like, you know, paying for your kids college is one thing. But, you know, graduate school, I think, you know, if a parent can help with something and they want to, I think it's great. I actually would, I would never, you know, I think it's, it's really, it's wonderful when, when a parent can support their kid if they choose to. But I think that with graduate school, it's like, there's a, there's a different cadence to that.

34:02Like there are a lot of people who go to work after college and they get experience and they, they earn money or whatever. And then they, they do put themselves through graduate school. It's a little different than college. If a parent says, Hey, I want to help you. You want to further yourself and your career. I want to help. That's great too but i don't think it's i don't think it's quite the same as college i think they're with college i mean it's a big ask to but it is something that people do which is that like at 18 you pay for your own college it's definitely something to do but it's a big ask so like there are a lot of parents that will help out their kids but i think graduate school you know you're sort of like now stepped into adulthood now but i think the whole thing wasn't even really about if it's graduate or college it was the it was the tone of the conversation when he said she's saying well we need to start thinking about your schooling and what are you doing and he's just like oh well you're gonna pay for it like his whole attitude i think if she said okay what are your plans in order to get this car what are your plans in order to go to this college and he said well i want to work but it's going to be hard for me to work full time and pay for the do all of this i might need help then she would have said i would be glad to help you if you're working right that's where the conversation would go she's not saying she doesn't want to support the kids.

35:14I mean, she bought them an apartment. She's given them all this stuff. It's not like she doesn't give them anything. So the whole fight started because he smarted off to her and Cecil didn't stand up for him and is now acting like she should just pay for everything. And it's just like she's feeling taken advantage of. It's like, I work my ass off. These people aren't even grateful. And then they turn me into the bitch when they don't get every single thing that they want. The first thing he asked for was actually a new Jeep. He was like, I had a Jeep and that was cool, but now it's not so cool anymore.

35:42Now it's boring. Two and a half, four years. So his priority was his Jeep. It was not the law school. It's almost like he looped in the law school to sort of almost seem like he had some responsible aspirations. And maybe he does. But again, these situations are also very subjective. They're a case-by-case basis. And you do have to look at the fact that they got him an apartment. They did this for him. They did this as well as the older brother. And that they've done, it's actually been a lot. They've used up a lot of capital and not just cash. It's like, you know, they, and so I think at this point, Simone's like, you just asked for a car and now you're going to tack on law school.

36:18It's like, at some point it's like, it can't just be about asking for things. You got to go out into the world and start earning your keep. And like, and the fact that Cecil just sat there while she, what she's getting really upset. And he's not even saying, listen, you guys better apologize to your mother or you guys are being, you know, you guys are being really entitled. because everything that Cecil said isn't necessarily wrong, but has nothing to do with the way that the entitlement that the kids were showing in that moment. Right. Yeah. So Cecil's going on and how his dad was so rough and he's promised his kids are never going to have to struggle.

36:52And his brother says, yeah, but we grew up in the same. By the way, isn't it funny that he talks exactly like Cecil? He's speaking back. And they look like we grew up in the same. Yeah. Yeah. So he's like, we grew up in the same house. I get it. But you're not, you know, you're not catching this. It's like your wife is amazing and you can't discount her. And he's like, you know, you, you're saying I, I, I, I, and we've got the money, but you, you know, your kids are going to be all right, but you're going to be stuck with your wife. That's the one who's your partner. So shut up. Exactly. It's like, it's, and again, it's not like they graduated college, like the financial aid, like they're fine.

37:30They will figure out a way to make this work. So when they're, once they're gone out, truly out of the house, you've got a, you got your wife. so then uh simona's meanwhile she's like crying and she's because she feels unheard she feels unconsidered and it's really really hard and she's at her breaking point and she's exhausted she's tired and it's like too much for her and so her sister is consoling her it's like really it's a really good scene actually so now we go to quad and she's packing while king is watching her and she's like king are you packed already and he's like the thing that that doesn't look like you're going for medical purposes it looks like you're going for a party uh why are you wearing gucci to the hospital oh king this little two piece is a comfortable little two piece that's gucci bring good to the hospital that is what i've got king you make gucci to the hospital yeah shut up who do you think you're with she wears gucci to go get the fucking groceries in the morning of course she's going to wear gucci to the hospital who do you think you're marrying sir i'm sick of i'm sick of king's smart ass over there okay and especially after this scene so quad's like king and i are headed to ghana for our third round of egg retrievals and so they she talks about how the ladies had this supportive party for her which there was no fights at which is why they didn't show it so we see a clip from that and they're all lying around on pool floaties and um jackie's like this is where we support our new mother of the group and hope that something enters her vagina and gives her a child or whatever and then quad just jumps on her sobbing she's like commercials here comes one right now

39:16she's full sobbing you know she's probably so mad that that whole scene got cut so king is like so what happens if we don't get the results that we're looking for on this trip well i'm praying this is our last time but i mean we're gonna be hopeful but we got to be practical at the same time practical what am i not being practical about you told me you don't mind you just said all we do is have to do is make more money you said you didn't mind so what's happening like it's been non-stop though like i have to go with you like come on she's like but we did it we knew we were gonna have to go through this struggle he's like no we thought it was gonna be one and done okay really?

39:52So you're mad at having to spend all this money and time on IVF? That's not how it works. IVF takes forever sometimes. I don't like his impatience. Is it the IVF or the trips to Ghana? Or is he like, I thought we only had to go to Ghana once. And he's like, we're going on our third trip to Ghana. Maybe. I mean, there are doctors that aren't in Ghana that there might be a more practical way to do this. I don't know. Maybe she got some Instagram deal where it's like the doctor in Ghana offered. So she's going to get those discounts or whatever. I don't know. It's housewives, so you never know. Just a shame that they don't know any OBGYNs in this group, you know?

40:30Yeah. Right. I just feel like he, if he's, he's not coming off as that supportive, even though she's trying to convince us that he is very supportive, but his whole like, well, maybe we should just accept it that we're not, it's not going to work. It's like, no. And if you think this is a pain in the ass, wait till you get the kids. Well, yeah, that's harder. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the thing is, he actually knows because he has a daughter. So Kwata's like, babe, I don't want to come across like I'm forcing you to do something. But ever since day one, when you said this is a dream of mine, this is what I would do.

41:03I would like to become a mom just being by my side and supporting me through all of this. Like you stopped your job and I recognize the sacrifices that you made for me. Sometimes I don't. I'm not the best with my attitude. And you just I'm telling you I'm owning that. He's like, you're owning it? And just like laughs. And she's like, yes, no one else can own my shit. I don't think anyone else wants to own that shit. Ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. And she's like, I don't want you to think I don't see what you're doing for me, okay? I don't know. I'm getting bad vibes from this guy. Like, I like that she's with a hot guy and she seems very happy, but I'm bothered.

41:42I'm bothered. There's a lot of warning signs about him. It's like, you know, I get a smart ass. I love a smart, obviously I am a smart ass, but it's rubbing me there. I agree. I agree. I think that some of his jokes, I don't, I've just never been comfortable with, with people who make jokes at the expense of their partners. I just feel like it's, I feel like it's a slippery slope. It might start off as like funny, like banter, but I feel like I've seen it across the board in all relationships and on TV, which is where our relationships are. the purists always go downhill to going from like funny banter slowly to like barbs to toxicity.

42:20So I get a little, like, I don't love that either. That being said, I do understand if I, if, if he is sort of like an availed way talking about like, uh, all these trips to Ghana, um, these are a little, this is a little impractical. If that's sort of what he's talking about, then I can kind of understand. But if he's talking about like, and I also understand like, let's not get overly consumed with this. If it's not meant to be, it's not meant to be. I understand that as well. But, um, if he's just kind of like, well, we tried it once. It didn't work. Oh, well, moving on. I don't like that. Yeah.

42:52I guess I think what's rubbing me the wrong way is that if he's felt this way, why is he waiting until they're on camera to say something to her? Cause she seems genuinely shocked when he says, aren't we done with like how many, how much more of this are we going to do? And she's like, but you knew we were going to have to do more. And he's like, no i thought it was a one-off it's like i don't know it's like he's too comfortable kind of cutting her down on camera already you know i just don't like it like the little comments then doing this and then her apologizing all the time like well i've apologized for my attitude it's like there's just a lot adding up that's making me not really like him he had to know it's not just a one-off because he did all that research on the last episode where he's like I know one at one minute you're an expert on vaginas and now you're confused that IVF takes more than one shot sometimes.

43:44Yeah. So if he's if he's saying I thought it was a one off on IVF, I'm like, sir. But if he says I thought it was a one off on going to Ghana, I'm like, you gotta get it. Yeah. So then we go over to Simone. It's a ladies event. Build a bag. We're going to build our own bags. So Toya arrives and Simone's like, we have so much tension in this group. So it started because Heavenly left her bag at Brandy's dinner and Toya called it fake. And then Heavenly forgot to take the bag again from Toya's house. And she's like, if we can't be shady about a bag, what are we doing? So Toya's like, well, we don't even understand why our friends have to carry fake bags.

44:29And there's this woman named Jackie who's like, well, we're going to make some real ones with some real leather today because she's like a... She's like a bag lady, not like a bag lady, but she's like a bag, a lady who makes bags and has events where people make their own little floppy bags with her trim. And so, so Toya's like, yeah, I'm like, but if you ain't got it, just don't do it. It ain't even that deep. I mean, says Toya, who's had a new house, a new rental every single year. Come on now. Yeah. I mean, come on. Come on, Toya. Come on. And there's a new story today that she's even looking for a new house again.

45:05So, come on. So Toria's like, well, I couldn't have heavily feel is that bad by just by calling a bag fake. But, you know, it's not like anybody thought it was real. You think that people think heavily is walking around the Jimmy Chul's and Balenciaga bags and Gucci and vending dresses? No, we always think it's fake. Yeah, but here's the thing. We always think yours are fake, too, because who in their right mind would spend that much money on shitty clothes just because they have a circle that says Gucci or Chanel on it? I mean, you look like a dumbass. So if yours isn't fake, you're actually the dumbest one on the show because that's crazy to be spending that kind of money on stupid shit.

45:44Yeah. So Mimi and Heavenly are driving there and Heavenly is driving very fast and Mimi is like, slow down, slow down. And Heavenly is like, so it's, you know, she said, no, Heavenly is in her nice girl voice. She's like, I got you, girl. Don't worry about a girl. I got a girl. Now see how I held that curve. Now you saw that. Now how we doing, girl? how we doing girl that's my favorite heavenly voice yeah so mimi's like he's like well speaking okay well let's talk about this group chat she's oh yeah that's group chat well all i said honestly was that we were telling each other happy father's day and toya said she loved her husband and she was appreciative of him and she's like uh well toya says so thankful for eugene and my fathers and i'm so blessed and so are my sons and please wish your fathers and husbands an amazing father's day.

46:33Yeah, it was very, very sweet. Very sweet. And you said, make sure to tell him that, Toya. Well, you don't know the history, though. You don't know the history why I said that. And she says that the history is that Toya is always disrespecting her man, and her man needs to hear her praise in front of the friends, because everything she sees in front of the friends is negative about her man, which is a good point. So then we go back to Toya, and she's like, oh, she should not be talking, because we had this conversation, and we said, don't mention my husband. So why are you on the text thread now telling me, tell your husband happy Father's Day?

47:06I mean, I know what to tell my husband. Like, I'm almost 50 years old. We got a good relationship. We got five green eggs. Yes, you know exactly what to tell your man, which is why you had to have a summit down in the basement by the Honda CRV signing table with margaritas and mason jar glasses. So Simone is like, well, I didn't, so Toya's talking with Simone. She's like, I didn't perceive it as shady until you said it. Well, how could you not? Like, okay, come on. Can I have a cocktail? That was very shady. So now, um, Jackie and Brandy arrive at the party and Angel shows up and Brandy is, uh, saying that she's excited of, you know, and she's, you know, about the, after all this back and forth with the bag, there's been so much drama and, uh, and she's basically like, yeah, you know, Simone, this, you're being shady by throwing this event, but like, I also love the shade, so I'm down for it.

48:01so angel is saying that she wanted to take um a friend of hers to meet a doctor they wanted to they want to introduce the new girl angel to a doctor so she's like i was trying to get you to come to the office to meet the doctor and angel's like well the top three things i look for a man is to know their connection with god because if they don't have one my kids names are going to make no sense and um they need to be smart and be loyal be good if he was hot but those those other things i really want a kid named tithe so i'm really working on a religious person i just can't wait to introduce this new man to my child confession these are my confessions so angel is like she's like okay so um what type of material are we using oh look okay that's right here but I don't want to touch heavily stuff until she tells us to touch it or Jackie's up to tell it.

48:58So they're like okay so they're just checking the bags and checking to see if it's real leather and she's like yeah yeah no it's real leather I mean is it okay though because the people seem to think to fit in they gotta come in with some fake shit if you know what I'm saying. It's like yes Toya we get it. You think that Heavenly has a fake bag. Yeah we get it Toya it's just your big story is Heavenly has a fake bag which Heavenly doesn't even care if she's admitted it's fake. Like who cares? So she's like why you You got to try and fit in like that. You got to have to ask Heavenly about it. And so Heavenly comes in and, you know, it's like, I know.

49:31I know. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm dirty, dirty. So then Contessa shows up. And Contessa, like, they're all sort of dressed relatively casually as much as one is on Bravo. And Contessa comes in in, like, this sequined blue-purple kind of dress that's, like, mini. I don't know what you call those sort of dresses. It's like a miniskirt, but it's like, you know, but it's like a going out, going out to the club dress. And I was like, Contessa, what is happening right now? Toria just goes, where are you going? She's like, just to see my girls. I've been cooped up with kids.

50:05I thought it was a sexy day. And they're like, no. And I guess it's later that they're like, no matter where Contessa goes, she will dress inappropriately. Like, they show a big clip of Contessa just dressing wrong for every event. yeah i think heavenly was like she's like this is a beautiful girl but she just doesn't know what to do with it yeah so this woman jackie's like trying to throw this event and she's like okay everyone welcome okay okay so uh we have a drinks and then you're gonna get one minute to choose materials but they're like not really paying attention because now we go over to the men's because what's more fun than watching the men sit around and smoke cigars i was like uh hot take i really don't care about the scenes when the men get together although this one was okay you know eugene was sort of confrontational but generally speaking when the men well it was good because usually it's eugene coming after everybody else right like and he tried it in this one it's like your wives you know he's always trying to do like the guys are crazy but the guys keep it separate it from the wives but this one he's trying to blame everything from his wife on to all the other wives and i like that they didn't let him do that because basically they bring up the uh party right they bring up the other party and the shit show that that was and um well no first they talk about the office they talk about this new office and eugene's like well you know i knew we were gonna rent from you scott but you know toya went and you know she's pretty judgmental And then we see Toria being like, you're supposed, people are going to be pooping outside of your office.

51:40And we're moving up like the Jeffersons. And it's like, yeah, Toria said no. So we'll be looking for a different place. Go to a different place. And Curtis is like, well, don't go up to Dunwoody or Duluth because then my wife's going to burn down your office. Yeah, because she's doing weight loss stuff too. So then we go back to the ladies. And they're like, okay, ladies, we're going to make our own leather clutch. so you're going to have one minute to get your stuff. And they're like, well, what if someone else takes our leather? Simone's like, you take it from them. No, Jackie says, you're going to take it from them.

52:16That's what you do. Take what's yours.

52:21So Jackie, so then Toya's like, by the way, so do we put the leather on the inside and the outside of the bag? And Jackie's like, yeah, this is a real leather bag. She goes, okay, because some people are not used to that. so brandy's like you're so shady well wait a second why is everyone looking at me like that i was just saying some people are not used to leather on the inside and the outside of their bags some people have fake leather bags that's all i'm saying because i have a friend whose purse i brought with me hey friend and she pulls out heavenly's bag and heavenly heavenly is like she's trying really trying to like not like pop off because she's like you know she's like well You know, all I know is my portfolio.

53:02Because she's saying, like, I'm running for office. I cannot go off on Toya. Which, unfortunately for her, does not. Yeah, you can go off on Toya. You can do whatever you want in office now. This is 2026. Do whatever the fuck. You could murder somebody and still win, you know? So Toya's like, I want her to be able to tell which one is real based on the leather. So I thought it would be a good example. She's like, well, I do know about my portfolio. Leo, that's what I know, Toya. That's all I know. And I think it's thicker than a lot of people's in here. Right, Toya? College funds? Something like that, Toya?

53:36And she's like, uh, well, no one wants to use this for an example? No one wants to use it? Jackie's like, you got one minute for materials. Come on, I'm trying to have a scene for you guys. So they all go and they pick out their materials and everything. And she's like, okay, you're going to make your bag. You're going to create a border and you're going to cut out the leather and stuff. And Contessa's like, you guys want to know something funny? to like something funny from Contessa. That would be a first. Well, guess what? Guess how Scott paid his way through medical school. He sold fake coach bags.

54:06He gave me a fake coach bag. And he was like, you can't even tell. And I was like, I can tell Scott. And I was like, why are all these girls calling Scott up? And it turns out he really was selling coaches. I went to his house. He really had coaches. And then I finally was like, okay, now that you finish your residency, you have to stop selling the coach bags. Guys, isn't this a hilarious story? I actually thought it was. And I loved this about Scott. This is the best thing we've ever learned about Scott. It actually made me like Scott. He paid his way through college making fake bags. I love that.

54:34That's such a unique husband story. He sold fake bags in order to get his real bag. Yeah, that's right. So then we go back to the men and they bring up Toya. So Scott's like, oh, okay. So Toya doesn't want to rent for me. So is she still mad at you from your party the other night? Is she mad? And is she still mad at all the other husbands? And Damon's like, I don't know. I hope not Dr. Daddy signing in yeah I mean you know look this is what Heavenly was saying that you and Toya's relationship you guys talk to each other in a way that you guys talk to each other and that works for you guys and Curtis is like yeah I mean we all have an opinion on how you and Toya relate to each other because it's not how Jackie and I relate to each other or how Scott and Contessa relate to each other or how Damon and heavenly relate to each other, how most people relate to each other.

55:29I mean, you guys don't even buy vintage cars and drive around in them or anything like that. And the difference is that she'll just dump it out in public. And I've never really seen you come back at her in public. And, you know, that's fine. That's how it works for you guys. That's good for you. You guys have your own dysfunctional communication and it works for you. Dysfunctional for us, functional for you. Your wife for, you know, you forgive your wife for screaming at you in public. my wife forgives me for cheating. So we all have our things. And Eugene's like, well, you know, I think that, you know, a lot of the wives at this point are just stressing her out.

56:04You know, like I did hear Heavenly say that's not how Eugene likes to be talked to. I mean, I think that was a little bit of a jab. She was standing up for you because you were getting yelled at at your own party. I mean, what the hell? So Eugene's like, yeah, okay, look, we have unconventional communication. She likes screaming at me in public and I like saying I'm sorry and then buying multiple appliances, multiple small appliances. And Damon's like, well, you know, I mean, you look at it a little bit different. And Eugene's like, well, only because I'm privy to some of the comments they say to Toya.

56:40I mean, they're just not positive. Your wife is screaming at somebody right now across town, mocking them in front of everybody for like the fourth day in a row for having a fake purse. Yeah, exactly. You just don't have a leg to stand on when you're saying everybody's mean to Toria. I'm sorry. And that is not an insult of your manhood when we say you don't have a leg to stand on. You don't have a third leg to stand on. He's like, I don't know. I've just seen him running. It's like an insult to my manhood. And Damon's like, well, very rarely has my wife said something to you. He's like, well, not to me, but about me.

57:15And you never said anything that I thought was disrespectful to me or my family. None of you guys. All the guys are pretty. I mean, men, right? Men are pretty sane, right? But women, crazy. Curtis is like, yeah, but Toya has given it as good as she has gotten it. So let's not forget that. They show the clip of Toya being on Watch What Happens, and Curtis has had his hands on many of the women, so he needs to keep his hands to himself. And, I mean, probably in Eugene's mind, it's like, yeah, but that one made you look more like a man. That wasn't emasculating. Eugene's like yeah I'm not saying my wife is innocent or any wife is innocent I'm just saying you know like we're just one moment we're talking about a bag and then suddenly it's like your husband's got a little dick and I'm like where did that come from right right well yeah but it's okay when your wife is like poor shaming somebody or saying that she's richer than them and everything else and trying to humiliate them in that way you're totally fine with that until it comes to your little dick, which I'd like to point out again, only came up because Toria said it on camera.

58:17This little dick only came up that way. So Chris is like, well, the women have said stuff about every man in this group and it's just the way it goes. Okay. Women, women are crazy. Men are chill. Don't you know that's the first rule of the show. And Damon's like, yeah, and you know what needs to change the wives? And Eugene's like, wait, we've got to change wives. And then they all laugh. Yeah. And also good luck with that. Good luck with that. Damon. So then we go back to the ladies and Simone's like, so Toya, I did talk to Heavenly today and she confirmed that she did not mean any shade by the text on Father's Day.

58:54And she's like, well, I wanted to watch you didn't tell me that. I didn't mean anything by Toya. If I meant something about it, I would say it honestly. You know that about me, Toya. Honestly, I thought that was pretty direct. I'm so blessed and so are my sons. Please wish your father and husbands an amazing Father's day please make sure to tell him that on on camera to you that was pretty that was that was that was pretty mean and heavily was like yeah well i said in front of everybody you should say in front of everybody because you embarrass him in front of everybody and it makes us so feel so un-fucking so uncomfortable toy and so brenda's like yeah that was shady so heavily's like it was a positive text it was very very positive actually it wasn't a good text it was a really good text it was a Angel's like, well, this is what I have to say.

59:42Hello, I'm Angel. Okay, this is what I have to say. If you've sent a message out saying make sure to tell your husband that on camera, prior to that, Heavenly, it was a conversation about you speaking about her husband on his penis size, and she had a problem with that. And I don't think you know when you offend someone. And she's like, yeah, but she mentions my family on the other text, and you'll act like you didn't even see that whole fucking text. and we see Toya saying in text, you should focus on your own family, especially on camera. I'm sure they need that same support from you. And Toya's like, keep your name out of my mouth.

1:00:17And it's like, well, stop doing negative shit to your hope. And then, I mean, he might like it. I don't know. All I was saying, it was from a good place though. Evelyn, shut the fuck up. And Evelyn's like, you shut the fuck up. What you need is to shut the fuck up. He's like, well, you're deflected from what you said, which was shady. You do this shit all the time and you're a fucking liar. Yeah, you're a damn fake ass bitch. And then Jackie's like sitting there on the side being like, oh, God. Monologue from Jackie time, guys. And also, Toya, you started it with the first comment. I'm sorry. You can try and twist this any way you want to.

1:00:52Like, oh, she was meaner though. And they turn it in. Jackie says, you don't have to throw a boulder when they throw a rock. If you throw a rock at somebody and you get a boulder back in your face, you'll still go to jail for being the one that threw the rock. Right? Mm-hmm. people are allowed to defend themselves if it's a boulder it's a boulder don't get mad at the mountain after you threw a rock at it but anyway it's a monologue time for Jackie famous proverb don't get mad you think it's go tell it to the mountain no it's go throw the rock at the mountain see what sort of rock the mountain throws back and throw that rock back at it and just go back and forth until you realize you're just throwing rocks yeah dummy so then Jackie monologues She's like, Contessa, toil, angel, brandy, heavenly, Mariah.

1:01:43That other lady I forgot from the first season who had an English accent for no reason, Carrie. Now listen, I'm soft spoken. Because my heart hurts. It's broken. We've been there when times have been tough. And I'm really sad right now that we've created this group where we can't help each other. Pick out dildos. Or discuss vibrators over a nice calm lunch. You and Toya have never been this broken before. And Heavenly, don't throw a boulder if they threw a rock. You know, you're right. Thank you. You're right. Thank you, Doctor. And she's like, I just think it's sad we're at a place where we can't even make bags that look like unfilled raviolis without yelling at each other.

1:02:31We can't even create bags that look like envelopes from a bill collector covered in fur without fighting.

1:02:43Furry, unfilled raviolis. Jackie's like, I truly think that you were trying to come at Toyo the right way. I do. Wrong time. Wrong message thread. Oh, and by the way, I smell funky. You guys made me lose my deodorant. Thank you. It smells like I did not know what I was smelling. I'm funky now. I smell funky. Thank you, ladies. I thought it was the leather. So Heavenly is like, now, look, I really don't have a problem with Toya. I hope that we can learn from this and we can grow because we're sisterhood. And I will always be there for Toya when she gets ready. And when she needs me there to pay her rent, I'll be there for her.

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