#3233 Summer House S10E4: Bro Chode

0:21Ronnie Karam: Hello and welcome to Watch What Crabbins. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben. Hello, Ben. Hello, Ronnie. How's it going? Great. Our agent's in town, so we got a fancy dinner last night, and I'm still smarting. I woke up like, oh, yeah. I ate some lobster, guys. I was just telling Bueller. I was like, yeah, I ate some lobster. What did you do last night? Nothing. That's right, sucker. So that was really fun. Also, we're getting ready for the Crappy Awards, which are this Friday. Are you guys so happy? Because we're telling you every single day. but they are finally here it's friday night the 27th in hollywood at the fonda theater uh i think there's like seven tickets left it's come on there's seven tickets you can do it i know so um yeah we're doing that and also it's being live streamed when you buy those live streaming tickets that lasts for two weeks so if you can't make it friday night or if you're on a different time zone or whatever don't worry you can still watch it okay it's gonna be great so go get your tickets at watch what crappens.com also if you want ad free listening traders bonus episodes or um uh the newsletter well the newsletter's free but still all of that you sign up for that over at patreon.com slash watch what crappens yeah and today is summer housing summer housing Season 10, episode 4.

1:51Ben Mandelker: Yes. Oh, the trials and tribulations of these people in the Hamptons. Well, guess what? It's Sunday. It's July 13th. And if you thought it's like 10 a.m., you're wrong. If you thought it was 10 to 10, you're wrong. If you thought it was 5 to 10, you're wrong. Because guess what? It's 9.54 a.m. And people are waking up.

2:12Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So we go to Bailey and Levi, and they're in bed. and they're talking about how nasty the downstairs is. And we go to the kitchen to see how nasty it is. It is. And West is going to be a big boy today, guys. And he's going to make a casserole. Watch out.

2:30Ben Mandelker: Yeah, this was a twist. West deciding to make a casserole. It was the big old Midwestern casserole, eggs. We don't even know what's happening. In fact, honestly, when Carl's like, oh, you're making a casserole? I was like, what is he talking about? West is going to cook something. There's going to be a casserole. What is it? But it winds up being a very cheesy, eggy casserole for everyone to enjoy. And did not see that. I couldn't tell. Did it look? What'd you say? Didn't see it coming. Did not see that coming. Did that look like a good casserole to you or a bad casserole?

3:04Ronnie Karam: I mean, I don't know. I'm not really a casserole queen. It looked maybe too thick. But like I thought I suspect it will be eggy on the inside because it It came out in clumps instead of like a cake. I mean, not that it's supposed to be like a cake, but I like when it'll come out in a full square. You know what I mean? Right. And this came out very like liquidy-ish. And they also didn't really respect it. They kind of slopped it all over their plates. And someone even said, this is like prison slop, you know, which no man wants to hear. You know, that was a big step for West making anything. Really.

3:35Ronnie Karam: Have we ever seen that?

3:37Ben Mandelker: No, I think that basically his mom gave him a recipe and he was like, I'm going to do this. This will endear me to America. and to the house and I'll be amazing. But what he did not account for clearly is that if you're going to bake a whole big thing and you're baking the eggs in there, it's going to take a long time to bake because baking eggs takes way longer than it does to make them in a pan. Sure does. And it sounds like they were all waiting around.

3:59Ronnie Karam: And you know, I'll tell you who is super upset about this scene. His name is Luke and he's living somewhere with a very big beard and chopping wood and making rings. And he was watching this and he was saying, casserole, do you mean a hot dish? Yeah. Because it's called the hot dish, not a casserole. You know, you don't need to dumb it down for us here in America. You don't have to be like, hey, I'm going to make a casserole just so Ronnie understands. I know what a hot dish is, Wes. Okay? Just call it a hot dish.

4:25Ben Mandelker: It's so funny because I woke up this morning and the first thing I went on to Instagram and the first thing that popped up is the chef Sola Wiley. And she is from like the New York Times. And she posted a video of making a Minnesota hot dish with tater tots. Isn't that crazy? Just like I guess that's the vibe of this morning for me. And then Dom made tater tots. And I had some. Whoa. What's happening? Whoa. Whoa. So many connections. I'm just connecting all the dots, guys.

4:58Ronnie Karam: Follow the breadcrumbs. You know, it's important to read the signs. Casserole. Casserole. Hot toddies. I mean, not hot toddies. Would you call them? Hot dish. No. Hot tater tots. Tater tots. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, he made a casserole. And Carl's like, well, you're making the casserole? Really in the mix. I wouldn't know this had I lived upstairs. But now I know. I'm the first one in the house to know there's a casserole being made. Yeah. Wow. Then we go back to Bailey and Levi. And Levi's like, guess who I saw on Raya yesterday? Ben. I saw Ben on Raya. And she's like, oh, my God. Ben? Our Ben? My husband, Ben?

5:38Ronnie Karam: She goes, yeah, we didn't match.

5:41Ben Mandelker: and bailey is like well i got to sit on his lap in the car ride home there was there wasn't enough spaces and i was like i could always sit on ben's lap and then he was like yeah get over here and i was like he was the hottest man ever i'm pretty sure we're in love now so it's gonna be pretty

5:53Ronnie Karam: amazing ben's cute and everything but i think they're overreacting i think they're acting i think everybody on this cast and the world is overreacting he's a very good looking you know guy but i mean kind of in a scarecrow way i don't know it's like he's cute and everything i just think that we're we're giving a standing ovation to attract song yeah yeah i i just i think that

6:22Ben Mandelker: like he's he's he's attractive but they're acting i feel like there have been more attractive people

6:27Ronnie Karam: in the world you know it's just a lot of lauding and you know he's cute and everything but i don't know it's like i don't know maybe because the olympics are on so i'm thinking of everything is scoring you know i'm like well it's a couple points away from a gold but you know who am i to say and i also think that it's because today if we were looking at this like olympic scoring today we saw ben putting on clothes but they didn't show his his butt so i'm wondering if it's just like seeing his underwear maybe that maybe that lowered the score but you know well let's be

6:58Ben Mandelker: honest because the olympics are on we've had two weeks of images of speed skaters with legs like tree trunks and and booties like um a hot dog cart you know and so when we see ben i'm like where's the rest of his leg and butt where does where his speed skater legs and butt

7:18Ronnie Karam: like where every other mediocre person in america becomes an expert on excellence

7:24Ben Mandelker: yeah i'm like why can't i put like a soft drink on your butt right now like i could a speed skaters

7:31Ronnie Karam: yeah so uh we go back to the kitchen west and carl making their cuss roll and people come in mia's shocked that someone is cooking and um she's like oh shit i just realized oh my god i think i left blue cheese in my purse girl we've all we have all been there yeah she we see a flashback

7:49Ben Mandelker: to uh the previous night and she they were all hanging out and she probably drunkenly was like guys, I'm going to put some blue cheese in my purse and we can enjoy some blue cheese at the club. She's probably thinking I'll bring a little bit of the charcuterie, right? Like a little bit of our cheese board to the club and this will be a great idea.

8:06Ronnie Karam: No, it's the blue cheese olives because they wanted them in their drinks. Oh, the blue cheese olives. Yeah, they wanted to put them in their drinks. Oh, well, yeah. And so the bar didn't have it. So they're going to bring some blue cheese olives from their house. Which I say, write a note to the manager. Say, hey, would you mind carrying blue cheese olives?

8:23Ben Mandelker: Also, next time use a Ziploc. I think she'd like put the blue cheese olives into like saran wrap or like into foil, whatever. It was like a, it was a loosely formed packet. And I feel like if you're going to have sort of wet dairy laden olives, you're going to need to use a Ziploc.

8:40Ronnie Karam: Mm-hmm. So Carl's like, oh my God, what is that? Blue cheese. Oh my God. It's inside your purse. Why is there blue cheese in your purse? She's like, oh my God. Now my purse smells like blue cheese. God. Oh God. So she's really upset because she's ruined her purse with blue cheese. I mean, I get it.

8:59Ben Mandelker: That's tough.

8:59Ronnie Karam: That's tough. It's a tough break. Yeah. So Jesse comes in. Jesse's mouth comes in. Basically, it's all I see. He's like, hey. Hugs everybody. And Carl's like, oh, trying a new look. It's just my underwear.

9:15Ben Mandelker: Carl, 14.0, just wear the underwear for breakfast. Wes is like, did you work out, guys? and Jesse is, Wes is like, Jesse says he went for a walk and he's like, yeah, it was great. By the way, how do we ensure that this breakfast is good? Which is his way of saying, Wes doesn't know how to cook. What are we going to do to make sure that this is edible? And Wes is like, no, don't worry. No, this is, it's fine. I can make it. He's like, look, I'll be, if I'm involved, I'll be, it'll be good. Don't worry. And girl, thank you very much. So they're like, okay, whatever. No, actually, that's not how he answers.

9:48Ronnie Karam: He says, how are we going to make sure good and west is like you don't have to have any that's how you answer you see because west is now defensive because he's cooking that's what happens you start cooking and then unappreciated people who don't cook come in here and start giving you shit don't eat my fucking casserole then sir guess what you're getting for for breakfast a blue cheese olive with some lipstick on it fuck out of here jesse solomon mouth it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial

10:19Ben Mandelker: KJ is still sleeping And they're all like wow he's still sleeping And people are just slowly arriving into the kitchen Slowly one after another For many many minutes And then we see Jesse, Sierra and Amanda They go to the bed to do some gossiping And Amanda's asking how their night was Sierra says it was really good And she's asking what do they all think about Mia Because Mia just arrived on the show last week And Jesse's like I really love her Or she just gives off like a great energy and then like cuts to Mia just like laying on the sofa while everyone else is cooking and making

10:51Ronnie Karam: breakfast yeah she's like well the breakfast smells good Wes but it takes a really long time but you know it smells good but it's taking a really long time he's like I love her energy I love her shaming Wes about the timing of his breakfast so he's like you know some Jesse back in bed is by the way this whole Jesse being a bed bug thing now I'm not into and he needs to stop it I'm not buying Jesse's whole like smiling and I'm just one of the girls now you're trying to fuck one of the girls okay you're not allowed to be a bed bug if you're trying to fuck one of the people in the bed this is to gossip and talk shit about people not to try and get laid

11:28Ben Mandelker: Jesse yeah yeah Jesse like they're letting him be an honorary bed bug just because there's no other options and it's good to have three but it's not a natural not a natural combo you know so he's saying that he thinks that she's really nice. And he's like, sometimes girls are so mean to like be flirty and fun, but I'm just like, how about try being nice? I give lots of compliments. I'm just, Jesse, I'm nice. And they're like, you do, Jesse, you're so great. And in the kitchen, Levi, Bailey, and Ben and KJ are hanging out. And Levi, you know, Levi's not really getting a lot of screen time, I'd like to add.

12:04Ben Mandelker: I feel like we don't have much more time with Levi. Do you sort of feel like there's this new girl, Dara, who appeared this episode, who is going to start taking over Levi's position in the house because I like Levi and I feel like we don't get a lot of her and what we have gotten I've really enjoyed, but she's barely in the episode now. And then suddenly there's a new person and I'm like, she's in danger. She's in danger of going back to a life where she can be productive and not have her entire reputation ruined because it's on a TV show for the rest of her life.

12:34Ronnie Karam: Yeah, well, Summer House always has those people who don't really make an impression. They're just there for a minute or then I'll make an impression and they're there for nine years like Danielle. You know, there's like some people who are just like ensemble and they're just there to be like, oh, my God, guess what I saw on Raya? And then that's their only line for the day. I will say that the new girl is definitely a presence, you know. She comes on. It's like, whoa, like it comes to life suddenly. Comes to life. Yeah, she's going to do well. She's basically like figuratively sleeping downstairs now.

13:07Ronnie Karam: She's in the mix. She found some common ground. So they come down for breakfast and back to the bed bugs. Amanda's like, what time did you go to bed, Sierra? It's like, oh, I'm 3.30. And then Wes and Kyle were in the fort and I made everybody go to bed. I was like, you go to bed. Go to bed. And Jesse's like, well, you know, Wes would do whatever you said last night. He's like holding five drinks. He's like, yo, take a picture of me. Like when Sierra tells me to get a drink, I'll do whatever she says.

13:33Ben Mandelker: Yeah. and um and then sierra's like well everyone's trained so well in this house now and amanda's like yeah they know better and jesse says not everyone meaning kyle because wes was like really pumped about you guys being like a little friendly last night by the way sierra right and she's like well what did you say he goes well i think he just it was just like nice to see you guys getting along and it's so good that now that your relationship is repaired i'm gonna come right

14:03Ronnie Karam: in and try to steal you away from him okay yeah and here's the thing you know if jesse just liked sierra and wanted to go for sierra i mean who can stop him west didn't really date sierra that long i mean i don't think it was really that deep but it's the fact that he keeps every single episode and the entire episode of every single episode so far out of four episodes it's been jesse gassing Wes up to Sierra. It's like he's every single episode, like you forgive Wes. You like, you like, you would like Wes. Yeah, look at Wes. Wes is looking at you. Wes got animals for you. Wes is into you. Wes wants you.

14:38Ronnie Karam: Do you want Wes? You're going to go back for like, he's trying to gas up Wes for Sierra just so he can come in and try and compete with Wes. And that's just so him. It's so gross. He's such a douche.

14:48Ben Mandelker: Yeah. But he also seems to have more game than Wes as well because he immediately manages to put his head right on Sierra's chest. like wow he really is laying the groundwork i mean the funny part is i don't know that that's game well he's flirting he's got his flirt game on and i will say that by the way i agree with everything you said by the way first and foremost second of all my favorite song play it again yeah but second of all what's so funny is that later in the episode he's gonna be like i think like he sort of asks west permission or basically tells west i'm gonna go for sierra but the truth is that he's already in the it's already in the process as evidenced by his flirtatious you know uh actions right here just putting his face on her chest and everything and she's and amanda's like wow it's like a little pillow and he's like it's a big pillow you know if wes were just like ready to settle down and sierra would be a great match for him and he's just not ready and we differ in that sense like someone like i'm very clear that i want to find someone that i can spend the rest of my life with but Wes is just like chilling and that's just not what Sierra's looking for like since when do you want to settle down I think that maybe you like the idea of like how that could make you look but there's been nothing in the history of Jesse in the way that Jesse has moved that seems to suggest that he is ready to settle down whatsoever last year when he was playing house with Lexi he still managed to put his toe into a threesome and uh and spoil that situation so I don't know where his like like I'm I'm like the mature option I'm the start a family option I don't know where

16:22Ronnie Karam: that came from yeah no one who's like coming out with like recording into their voice notes and then putting it out on Spotify I think is ready for like marriage I just think that that's like a number one sign that you're not ready I think he's just saying things to get the audience on his side he's just being like I'm looking for a relationship I'm looking for dating he's just so He's building his image. He's just like a, he's like an audience ass kisser. And I don't buy anything from this guy. Well, it's fuckboy language.

16:53Ben Mandelker: He's just like, I just want to be in a, I just want to settle down. I'm looking for the right one. This is all I want. I'm a nice guy. So, uh, hey, breakfast is ready. Casserole. Ha, come on downstairs. Get in the mix. It's a casserole mix. Ha, everyone sit down.

17:10Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And, um, so Wes is like, um, guys, um, thanks for being patient. Sorry that took so long. It's just that I'm a boy. A boy trying to make a casserole. I simplified the name though. So I hope that works.

17:26Ben Mandelker: So Bailey's like, this is redneck quiche. He's like, yeah, redneck quiche. That's fair. Oh, okay. So they all sit down and start serving themselves. This is where Amanda's like, I just feel like I'm giving slop at the jailhouse. And then Jesse's like, yeah, we're in the jailhouse now. and they all

17:46Ronnie Karam: Hey, you want to explain what a casserole is, man? Not everybody knows what a casserole is. He's like, it's just a bunch of shit that's baked together. Oh, good. You don't know what a casserole is. Okay, well, you know, while we have everyone, like before everyone gets out of here, Thursday we're going to do an Australian themed singles bash. You know, because all the boys talked and Ben said that he's ready to find love. So somebody was like, um, hi, I'm getting warmer, getting warmer, getting warmer. Okay. You're cold. You're cold. Why is he walking outside? Why is he going? Yeah. Um, yeah.

18:24Ben Mandelker: Apparently there's like, it just seems like wherever he goes, you just can't find anyone who would be as interested in him as he would be in them at all whatsoever. I'm like literally right here. I'm right here. Yeah. If there's, I mean, we wouldn't even have this mixture if there were someone in this house who shows any interest in Ben. Is there anyone? Raise your hands if you're interested in Ben. Anyone? He's just looking for a woman.

18:44Ronnie Karam: A woman who won't waste a salad at Fresh Greens by throwing it on the ground while she's getting dumped. She's like, wait a minute. So Bailey announces that she was not going to eat this. But now I'm trying it because I saw how much love you put into it, West. Let me taste it. Wow. Turns out love doesn't taste good. But thanks. Thanks for trying. That was a good breakfast.

19:08Ben Mandelker: That was really good. There's a reason why I always go to Sweet Greens. Okay. Um, so then West is, so they're putting together the singles thing because Ben, uh, has been unlucky in love. And so they're going to try to find someone for, for Ben to fall in love with. So, uh, you know, you know, it's, I'm really glad they're doing this for Ben because I just feel like hot Australian men just, they need a leg up in life. You know, someone needs to give them an assist.

19:38Ronnie Karam: Well, I'm ready to be in a relationship long term. So when I meet someone and I get a good connection and the energies are really good, then I'll give it a good shot. Right. And for the rest of this episode, I'm just going to let my butt speak for me. Thank you very much. And Jess is like, oh, I can't even imagine a girl saying no to you. What the heck? So West is saying, yeah, I mean, in theory, this party is just to get badass, basically.

20:05Ben Mandelker: Yeah, pretty much. And then maybe West can, like, pick up some of the scraps. so then everyone starts to pack to leave and Levi is she lost her Dolce & Gabbana heel so she does contribute to this episode because she says oh my god I lost the Dolce & Gabbana heel and Bailey goes that's one of my favorite shoes that you own you need to find that she goes oh I found it so really beautiful three act structure to her storyline this week Levi really needs to learn how to pace her storylines yeah spread them out and then Kyle and Amanda Kyle's like, Amanda, I'm sorry for yesterday. I don't know. I just, I don't think I'm good.

20:44Ben Mandelker: And I hate, I even like these last two nights, the drunkest have been in a year. And she goes, that's not true, but okay. I'm not even getting into like the drinking of it all. Like, I'm just more concerned. You seem to blame everything on me and you have so many other things in your life going on.

20:59Ronnie Karam: Yeah, you never even asked me about my life. Like, you don't ask me anything. Like, you don't have a clue what's going on in my life. Yeah, she does. You're drunk every day. and and djing at clubs till six in the morning like she knows yeah is there something deeper to it than that so she's like well we're partners and i just view things differently it's like well that's the thing i don't feel like it well when i you know but i say you're my best friend when i talk about you you know when something exciting happens with me then i can't wait to tell you so like i tell you i don't wait for you to ask me about it like if something interesting happens or it's difficult you have to tell me you know like when you're stressed i ask if you're okay and then you make it sound like i'm a terrible person like i never do this and i always do this and that hasn't happened and this hasn't happened uh amanda i'm not sitting here

21:49Ben Mandelker: making stuff up you are and if you're like that miserable with me then like i just don't get it and he's like well that wasn't my intention i don't think i'm in a bit of a i'm just not a great place, you know? Sorry. I just hope we can turn a corner, you know? Yeah. You won't. There's only so many corners in the square. And you've reached the last one, unfortunately.

22:13Ronnie Karam: So it's time to go home. We get some city, which I like. I like some episodes with some city. Because remember when they were like years that they were like, let's just not show them in the city anymore. No. I want to see them in the city. I will say, I think this show could use more people with jobs, because I don't think anybody does anything anymore except work on this show and i used to really like when they would go to the city and they had jobs and sent we would cindy we would see um what's her face crazy face lindsey we would see lindsey like working on her pr stuff and be like oh my god i'm working on a taco contract and the whole season you're like oh my god is she gonna get the taco contract and then she's like i got the taco contract i ain't got it i really like that

22:55Ben Mandelker: I didn't need more of that. I miss the days of Lindsay moving her entire fleet of interns into the shared apartment with Christina Gibson. And Christina's sitting there trying to do her work while there was like five girls being like, oh my God, should we like talk about the campaign for like Dunkin' Donuts? Like, yeah, let's talk about the Dunkin' Donuts command. Oh my God, let's totally talk about it. And Christina was like, this is a shared space.

23:20Ronnie Karam: I'm sorry, but I've got people trying to reinvent the taco. So, do you know what that? It's like, ah. Pizza bitch. So good. Pizza bitch. So they all go back to the city. And Ben works out. So that's something. And Sierra and Mia take Mia's dog for a walk. And I love Mia's dog because it just lies there on the sidewalk. It's like, yeah, I'm not moving. And it's a little dog, too. I'm used to big dogs doing that. But the little dog was like, nah.

23:46Ben Mandelker: No, I was not happy about it. And then it's Thursday. And Wes and Jesse show up to the singles bash. And so people arrive, Bailey and Levi. Everyone says hello. Ben shows up with his friends. And West is like, you think an Australian guy with blue eyes needs a fucking singles cocktail mixer? No, it's for me. No, I'm kidding. It's for me. And I said it's for Ben. See, I knew. I knew it. And so then Lindsay, everyone shows up. And this is Lindsay's first proper group scene with the whole gang. And so everyone's like, whoa, Lindsay, look out. Yes. I'm a elf. So everyone hugs her. and says hi to her.

24:24Ben Mandelker: They introduce Lindsay to Ben and Wes is like, yeah, this is Ben. If you can't tell, he's Australian. Oh, no.

24:33Ronnie Karam: No. Is that how Australian say no? No. I saw it on TikTok. No. And he's like, yes. Yes, I get it. He's like, yeah, he's single, but he's looking for love and like, you know what? I just figured maybe we could do like a mixture. Oh, you're looking for love? He's like, yeah, I'm lonely. Oh, well, really? Anything you're going to find love this summer? Have you ever heard of tacos? I, they're sort of a big deal on my resume. Having a family and having a baby, that's always been my ultimate goal, and I have that now,

25:04Ben Mandelker: so like the pressure's off, like no longer am I looking for the one. I'm not choosing the wrong guy because I'm like up against the biological clock. I get to fuck around and find out and maybe get a sandwich out of it. So with a condom, of course. So if a guy with blonde hair, blue eyes, and from Australia, falls in my lap. I'm sorry.

25:23Ronnie Karam: So now Sierra arrives and Jesse's like, oh, I'm going to try. I'm going to try now. Then we go to Bailey talking to a guy. And she's like, I've been single for two years. I thought it was going to fall in my lap. I was like, I've always had a boyfriend. Like, obviously, what will, like, find me? But, like, if it doesn't and, you know, like, I'm two years deep and I'm still waiting for it to fall. It's a drought. It's basically a drought. You know, I've seen most of these men on Bumble and Hinge before. And, you know, New York dating scene is just like so small. Oh, my gosh, girl. New York dating, there's like 12 million people in New York.

25:57Ronnie Karam: Isn't that one of the biggest dating scenes in the world?

26:00Ben Mandelker: Maybe adjust your filters a little bit. Just going to say that right now. But, yeah. Also, like, maybe not a great move is be like, hi, nice to meet you. I'm Bailey. You know, I've been single for two years and I thought a boyfriend would just fall into my lap. but hasn't yet. So are you the one? Did you fall in my lap?

26:21Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So she's like, well, you know, you know, your soulmate could be just walking by. Like maybe it's a Calvin Klein bottle with an Australian accent. You never know.

26:31Ben Mandelker: Got to Ben just like walking past Bailey without even noticing that she's there. He puts like a drink on her head. It's like, oh, thank God I got a table here. So then we see Lindsay giving Sierra spicy margarita with an, oh, wants an ego friendly strong and uh people are arriving so levi is like wow i can't believe you just had a baby yeah yeah bought his bag thank you and then amanda's like everyone in the house is single but me and kyle and mia have you met mia kyle and then mia and comes in and meets everyone's kind of coming in and like kissing the uh the ring of lindsey to be like we are the new cast members thank you for having us on your television show yeah

27:14Ronnie Karam: so they're asking me about her relationship and all that good stuff and then Carl comes up to Wes and Jesse and Wes is like um did you bring two hot chicks and a bro I mean come on we're all supposed to bring people he's like oh I mean the summer house Carl was upon us that's right they're like wow the self-proclaimed summer of Carl

27:33Ben Mandelker: SOC yeah summer of Carl you know what SOC stands for in the mix sort of weird but it does So then They're asking It's so Carl to be like oh my god It's going to be the most amazing summer I'm calling it sock Yeah sock I feel like also The last person who had a summer of was Lindsay Isn't that always Lindsay summer of Lindsay Of course Carl would steal summer of Lindsay And turn it into summer of Carl

28:02Ronnie Karam: You know it's always going to be a little Uncomfortable in certain settings seeing Lindsay Because you know like being friendly And cordial like that isn't the best course of action but like, I'm not sure. Like, do I say something? Do I let her happen organically? I mean, she's not interested in like hugging, so that's fine. But I mean, I don't know. What should I do? I'm just like going with the flow. And by going with the flow, I mean, I'm just going to stand here hunched behind this bar until she leaves. Summer Carl, suck.

28:28Ben Mandelker: Oh, I know she's not interested in hugging, but like, God, what I would do for a hub house hug. Oh, harder, harder, tighter.

28:36Ronnie Karam: Yeah, oh, hub house hug. Yeah. And then enters Dara, an influencer. Dun, dun, dun. And she comes right up to West and she's like, hey, it's me, Dara. He says that he was seeing Dara when he got laid off. And she was super supportive and a lovely friend but is not going to date a jobless loser with stupid broccoli hair like he's in the 12th grade. So she dumped him. But they stayed friends and she's dope. and you know it's like it's so weird that people want to like hate all their exes you know like i mean they're cool they're hot they can loan you 20 bucks when you're unemployed i mean no one i don't hate any of them i don't hate any of them so darrow's like um i guess happy australian party

29:23Ben Mandelker: what the fuck is this am i right guys am i right am i right ben's like yeah i mean i think that we're shopping this whole idea oh my god workshopping okay is that like an australian thing oh my god can i come sit with you guys move out the way i'm sitting darrow is here

29:38Ronnie Karam: so Lindsay is talking to the girls getting the tea and Jessie joins them and she's like I want someone to film me on what I missed last weekend in other words on the tea and so they're talking about how they went out and partied and Jessie's like yeah you know like it's really crazy like it changes the energy with you guys coming out it's like 11 out of 10 hanging out with us you know everyone's looking at us and Sierra's like what? what is he talking about? and Lindsay's like I don't know I just tune him out sometimes all I hear is mouth

30:10Ben Mandelker: yeah just nod and smile commercials here comes one right now so Lindsay turns to Jesse and she's like well you're single have you met anyone are you kissed anyone he's like no I haven't done anything with anyone in the house yet and Amanda's like in the house and then Mia suddenly everyone sees sitting down so Mia comes by with like she starts thinking a glass of a spoon and she's like um everyone we are at a singles event and not that I am of course I found a boyfriend so which makes me a little bit more superior than all of you guys but we're here and we're all sitting down and I need you all to get up okay because you two know each other you two okay you guys have to start standing up I like that she's like why is everyone sitting at this if I have to come to a stupid singles event you all better mingle because this is stupid that we're all sitting here on benches

31:03Ronnie Karam: And Ben and Lindsay are chatting. And he's like, they have so much fun. I'll get along with everyone. She's like, oh, so you're a bad TV. Okay, well, at least you're hot. And Bailey sees them. And she's like, oh, my God, look at Lindsay and Ben. I mean, that could be great. You know, they would make hot babies. I mean, I'm really happy for her. This is going great for her. Good for Lindsay. So happy for her. Wow. Already found love and a baby still needs to take a man off the market. Good for her. Love that for her. Love that for her.

31:30Ben Mandelker: Amanda says, well, I know Lindsay's face. and she can't understand what he's saying right now. And Lindsay's like, uh-huh, uh-huh. She's like, what's a wallaby? What's a Sheila? What's a didgeridoo?

31:43Ronnie Karam: I'm sorry, but really the only word I know is gnar. So. And he's saying, well, I heard little bits and pieces from Carl. She's like, um, Kyle or Carl? Carl. Um, Kyle or Carl, really don't know what you're saying. Um, can we get an interpreter over here? Thank you.

32:00Ben Mandelker: So tell me about your life, what do you do? she's like well i was a publicist for the majority of my life like literally i came out of the womb and i was doing a press release and then um but now i'm a former publicist garrant milf that's what i do love it love that love that for you i love that she says she was a publicist for the majority of her life that is i don't know why that's so funny to me started in school yeah like like if she was, if she started in PR at age 22 and now she's like 36, like, I guess maybe that's still not quite the, it's just like, when you say majority of her life, it's like, she truly is an Olympian, you know, like at age five, they were pulled out of school and had to be homeschooled.

32:42Ben Mandelker: That way they could go into a special program to learn how to do the parallel bars. Except for Lindsay, it was like media alerts.

32:49Ronnie Karam: Yeah.

32:50Ben Mandelker: I'm on an Olympic track. She went to a normal school,

32:52Ronnie Karam: but she had everybody convert over to Singapore math. She was that into it. She just always showed that PR streak. Yeah. She was really good at just swaying the narrative at school. They're like, the stock in Capri Suns went up 90 % when Lindsay was in our preschool.

33:12Ben Mandelker: Media alert. The cafeteria will be serving orange juice today. Thank you very much.

33:22Ronnie Karam: So Bailey's like, wow. Yeah. Look at that. Oh no, I'm sorry. Bailey's saying Oh my god, if that man touched me, I would not know what to do with myself. I would faint. Like he's the most beautiful man I've ever seen. He's like Thor. He's not like Thor. But you're just making things up in your head now. He's like if a scarecrow was playing Hugh Grant in something. And it's like, has nobody else noticed that he goes swimming every morning and then he comes back in with a little towel wrapped around his abs? Has anybody else seen it? Amanda's like, no.

33:49Ben Mandelker: You liar, Amanda. And then Bailey goes Well, I mean, so does Wes, but it doesn't hit the same. And we see like side-by-side footage of Ben getting out of the pool and Wes getting out of the pool. And you're right. It does not hit quite the same way. So Amanda's like, well, you got to lay the groundwork. You know, you got to like build that friendship, have that banter. Let him know that you're interested. Okay, great. I will lay the groundwork. I will walk by him and not say anything and hope that he notices me. Give me one second.

34:18Ronnie Karam: I'm sure that he doesn't notice that she's interested. I mean, come on. We're talking about Bailey. What kind of advice is this? You're going to get a restraining order put on this girl. Like, you know what he really needs to know? That you're interested. He knows. We all know. Okay. Yeah.

34:34Ben Mandelker: I mean, I would giggle. I'd be like, oh, he's better suited for someone else. It's like too good. Like, by the way, I don't also hate him and Lindsay right now. I feel like that's like kind of a stunning couple right there. And Mia's like, no, we're trying to talk about you and him. They're like, stop. Stop putting him onto Lindsay. You can do it. She's like, okay. I mean, I'm not going. I'm not. But I'm not at the same time. I'm like outgoing, but ingoing. I'm kind of like, you know, when you go to an office and there's like a lady there who has like two trays and one says outgoing mail and ingoing mail.

35:00Ben Mandelker: That's me. I'm the desk. I'm just a desk in a relationship. And you can put things on me and that's fine. And I'll be okay. And you can just walk by and you'll never notice me because I'm a desk. What are we talking about again?

35:09Ronnie Karam: So she's like, well, you know, it's hard for me because I was in a relationship with someone who was constantly telling me that I'm not good enough. I'm not smart enough. People don't like me. You know, I look fat. I need to watch my calories. And I was like, oh, my God, did you date my mother?

35:26Ronnie Karam: Well, texting my mom.

35:27Ben Mandelker: Is there some history here you haven't shared? Look, I'm not saying this for sympathy. I just want you to be sympathetic towards me. And, you know, that's how I told Levi. I said, it's being in this situation, being in this house and like going in, going into a new group of friends. I just had to remind myself multiple times that you're like you're being paranoid and like people don't hate you. Everyone around is like falling asleep. They'd be like, okay, this has been a bit of an overshare. We're just at a mixer now. We're going to go over there.

35:53Ronnie Karam: The newbies are so free with their feelings. Everyone else is like, why are you still talking? Okay, well, here's today's insecurity. And, you know, after my breakup, I was afraid of men. Like, because I see the pain they're going to cause me a month from now or two years from now. I'm just going to end up crying over you. So before they even talk to me, I'm like, save it, cancel it, whatever. I'm just done. I mean, I'm well aware that that's fully fucked up and I have a million issues and I'm working on them. Just give me some time. oh where'd everybody go I'm talking to a table tent so then um Amanda and Wes are sitting and

36:26Ben Mandelker: Amanda's like what are you doing he's like well I'm coming to make sure you're you're good as a non-single and she's like I just feel better than everyone he's like really yeah because I'm in the perfect relationship with the love of my life and there's no issues whatsoever are you having fun wait who's that girl did you bring her that girl who's that one i am dara oh i guess her name is dara yeah her name is dara we flinged oh what does that mean well we hooked up for a bit and then like a year ago but like way before i met you and like and like then like we had a far away

36:59Ronnie Karam: relationship um so you invited a girl that you used to hook up with for ben he's like um i think like i'm just like not bringing her in here to fucking banger in front of you guys i mean that's

37:10Ben Mandelker: not my intention god i'm just a little boy who makes casseroles so he tells us the progress from last summer to the summer with him and sierra is like it's there and they're back to like a flirty and fun place and everything is cool and he's like i would never fuck with that despite how messy this relationship has been there are still boundaries that we both try to like hold and just respect with each other and it's just like super important to keep you know our little family together, you know?

37:41Ronnie Karam: So now it's July 18th and we're back at the Hamptons. And Kyle comes in. It takes six hours to get there. How did I never realize? I thought it took like three hours to get there. How are you going to go somewhere where you have to drive six hours? Oh, okay.

37:55Ben Mandelker: He drove from New Hampshire.

37:57Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Jeez. Oh, yeah, because it was his family reunion. I should have kept paying attention. I was like, six hours? I'm out of this show. That's painful. How long is the drive from NYC to Hamptons. Let's see. It is. Oh, it's like a couple hours. Yeah. Yeah, it's not bad. I got upset with the Hamptons. It's like, fuck that place. I hate that place now. So, yeah, you know, I went to a family reunion. I got a DJ gig on the beach. And by gig, I mean, yeah, I was on the beach and my mom was there swinging around her bra and saying, you go, kid. So that was fun. And, you know, sold out show 800 people.

38:36Ronnie Karam: and there was a little frustration on my part that I'm mad it wasn't coming, but I don't know. I just feel like neither one of us wants to have another weekend like last weekend, so I'm going to come in on a clean slate then. Now it's 7.01 p.m. and Carl, KJ, and Sierra arrive. God, they almost made it there at 7, but it was one minute later. So Sierra's like, yeah, I'm easy to please, but I'm not carrying my bags, so someone else do it. and Lindsay comes this time and she's with Bailey and they're chatting and stuff and you know it's Summer House coming back so it's 20 minutes of hellos and Lindsay's like um Carl's like not at the top of my mind alright like I'd love to sit here and be like oh my god I wonder how it's gonna be with Carl this year in the same house but like I don't give a fuck I broke up with that guy and like um whatever I gave it up like I really truly do not think of that man unless I see a brick and mortar store and I just slowly mumbled to myself, failure, as I pass by.

39:40Ben Mandelker: Well, you're not even thinking about me even though it's the summer of Carl. I'm in the mix, so you should probably think about me a little bit more, a little bit more. I'm here, I'm here, new Carl, new Carl.

39:50Ronnie Karam: Kyle and Amanda, Kyle's sitting there working, by the way, and by working, I mean, he's like doing, he's bopping his head to music. He's like, yeah, that's gonna be a good one. Yeah, oh, hey, you know what? Oh, wait, hold on. Brick house She's a brick brick brick house Yeah nailed it Amanda's like oh wow you made it Kyle Are you prepping for tonight And she's like putting her hair over his face And trying to be flirting He's like I'm trying alright She's like you didn't even comment on my hair Carl I mean Kyle I didn't comment on it either Sorry about that It is good though Great hair It's really in the mix Was that fun loving sounding

40:28Ben Mandelker: because this is the year of sock. Yeah, it's a sock year, which is funny because I don't wear socks at breakfast anymore. Just Carl 14.0, just underwear only, no socks. So Amanda says that it's been a rough summer for her and Kyle, but she feels like if we're going to move forward and figure this out, they need to focus on the positives and do whatever it takes to have a good time. So as long as no one else ruins it for her, she'll be staying positive this weekend cut to her saying you didn't even say anything about my hair so Amanda that is like I guess as positive as Amanda can get it looks good so then well I've got

41:13Ronnie Karam: some positive news there is a Mil Mupp in the house mom who'd like to fuck while she makes an upside down pineapple gang because I'm making an upside down pineapple gang because it's Lindsay. It's the summer of upside-down pineapple cake.

41:30Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's kind of my thing. It's kind of my thing the way doing PR at six years old was kind of my thing in the playground. So I'm making my famous pineapple up-and-down cake. So they're like, okay, cool. The newbies have no idea about the significance of this cake. They're just like, okay, make your pineapple cake. That sounds great. And by the way, her timing on it is strange because she makes this whole cake, but I feel like they don't even touch it until like three in the morning, but that's fine, whatever. Kyle, Wes, Bailey, Jesse, and Sierra and Mia go outside and Amanda goes to bed because she's feeling sick and she's like hacking up a lung for the rest of the episode.

42:06Ben Mandelker: And then Wes is like, you're going to bed but your boyfriend has a big performance and Amanda's like, yeah, my boyfriend right, my boyfriend. So Sierra's sitting on the sofa. I'm sorry it's more like Sierra sits on the edge of the sofa next Next to Jesse, even though there's a full seat for her next to Wes, she sits on the arm of the sofa next to Jesse, which is significant because he then says, funny that there's an open seat over there, but she chooses this.

42:41Ronnie Karam: Yeah. She's like, ha ha. So then Ben and Lindsay are in the kitchen. She's like, do you cook? And he goes, I do. Breakfast. Or I'm handy on a barbecue sometimes. I'm like, oh, yeah, it's hard to get a read on Ben because like, I don't know, like on paper, like he's a beautiful specimen of a man. But like, is he flirting? Like, I have no idea. Do people flirt by talking about making breakfast? He's like, oh, I don't have any recipes, but there were a few things I could do. OK, she's like, oh, that's all that matters. You're really, really boring.

43:11Ben Mandelker: And then outside, Jesse is asking Kyle how long is that's going to be? And it's going to be like two hours. and like, geez. And Billy goes, Billy Joel was two hours. Just such a strange comp. Like, wow.

43:28Ronnie Karam: That's as long as a Billy Joel concert. Guys, he's pressing play on a machine. He's not sitting there at a piano for two hours. They're like, wow, two hours of playing other people's music. That is crazy. And so now they're getting ready. And Kyle and Amanda stay outside for a talk and say, um Kyle how mad would you be if I didn't go Kyle he's like I mean I was really hoping we could rally it was a really big deal for me really huge I'm gonna be at a common ground it's a pretty big deal man I don't know if you've heard of it oh did somebody say common ground

44:03Ben Mandelker: it's a great place I was just thinking about it when we were while I was training for the marathon this morning after breakfast where I was wearing socks and so then uh Jesse and Sierra are are flirting in the mirror and stuff. And they're both wearing cowboy hats. And Sierra's like, imagine this is like our engagement photos. And Jesse's like, I mean, Sierra is so hot. And we're having such a nice time. And like last summer, she just, she had just dated my best friend. So obviously I would never pursue it. But I'm just thinking like, maybe Sierra would be open to something with me now, you know?

44:36Ben Mandelker: Oh God. Yeah. Yeah. He's a shitty friend, I think. I do think this is a shitty, very shitty of him. He's a shitty friend.

44:47Ronnie Karam: And does he even really like Sierra? It's like you've had a whole, you've had this whole year in between. Why is it now only at the house you want it? Because he's there to compete with on TV. I just don't believe that he really even likes her. And it's also very, you know, like an old fashioned book where the guys discuss it. Right. Like, oh, can I go for her? Can I have her? Can I have her? I doubt that Sierra wants you sir Although I don't know Sierra's not really known for her great taste in men So I don't know I mean I root for Sierra so I hope that she Wouldn't be wanting him but The track record's not great so

45:25Ben Mandelker: Yeah her track record is Actually hideously terrible Really beyond awful Awful awful awful So um now the guys The bros are just hanging out in the bedroom And now we have a significant scene because they're all hanging out in that in that room with the two uh twin beds and uh jesse goes hey uh west you don't care if i make out with sierra do you he's like um is that in the works i don't know but like i think if anything it would be just like a drunken you know just for fun kind of thing like i don't know something like that the guys are horrified by

46:03Ronnie Karam: the way all the guys are like what the fuck like yeah just read their face read the room sir. And KJ goes, yeah, that's wild. And Wes says, uh, whatever. I mean, go on. I mean, I had like a month-long relationship with this person. How dare you? So now everyone's getting ready and Ben's wearing a bucket hat. Big moment. And Bailey's like, oh, you cannot wear that hat. I refuse to let you. Dude, if you want a girl, like, you should definitely wear that hat. Don't listen to him. He's trying to ugly up. He's trying to ugly up so he has less

46:37Ben Mandelker: competition. Don't listen to him. Bailey's like, I mean, Ben's like, I feel like I'm hearing something about this hip. I don't know what that noise is coming from. Is it from the oven? Who's talking to me right now? It's me. It's Bailey. I'm one of your roommates. Oh, well, must be the house settling in.

46:52Ronnie Karam: And Amanda's like, I can't go, Kyle. I don't feel good. I think I need to stay home. He's like, all right, well, rest up. Don't be on your phone. That's what resting up is, being on your phone. How else do you rest up?

47:09Ben Mandelker: Seriously. So Kyle is like, he's like, well, we will be respectful when we come home, right? Everyone, we're gonna be quiet for Amanda. And Kyle's like, you better tell yourself that. God, I love being able to joke around now that I'm in the mix.

47:24Ronnie Karam: So we see Kyle DJing and coincidentally, it was two hours of Billy Joel music. Crazy. It was just pressure on repeat.

47:40Ronnie Karam: And they come home at 1255 a.m., which is crazy because it's not like 1257, which it could have been. And Bailey's like, I need to get Jesse's cardboard cut out out of my room. The mouth is too big. Can we put it in Sierra's bed? So now they do this like wacky cardboard cutout placement all over the house. Let's put the cardboard stuff in each other's beds.

48:01Ben Mandelker: It's, yeah, they do this everywhere. And then Mia is like, Jesse, I don't want to see you in my bed. Never, ever, right? Because she walks in and sees Jesse in her bed. Because people walk, Sierra walks in and she like gets startled. Then she opens the front door. She's like, oh my God, oh my God. She sees the cutout. So they're all, all these, it's like wackiness with these cutouts. It goes on way too long. And then four in the morning, 4 or 6 a.m. specifically, in case you thought they were coming in at 4.05, you'd be waiting around another minute because they did not arrive until 4.06. it's Ben West, KJ and Jesse.

48:34Ben Mandelker: They arrive home and West is like, I hate how the door works. It's so sad now, which is true. I feel like we want that door to be fixed all season, but now that it works normally, it just sort of feels anticlimactic. Like I'm waiting like every single episode for the door to stop working for it to like warp into awfulness again.

48:52Ronnie Karam: It's like the, um, non-human, it's the non-sentient version of Kyle, of Carl. It's like the door got door 2.0 And now it's really boring Yeah yeah exactly the door's sober now So The door got it shit together And now we're like okay you're still on TV though So uh Make an effort

49:13Ben Mandelker: The door's like hey I was thinking about opening up a brick and mortar store called Knobs So

49:23Ronnie Karam: Kyle's like oh I know I'm two dimensional But like how are you not spitting money how are you not spitting me right now? Ben has his arm around the cutout Kyle. He's like yeah. How are you not like trying to get to third base with me?

49:36Ben Mandelker: Kyle's cutout by the way is aimed just that way. It's eating Lindsay's upside down pineapple cake because everyone knows that Kyle eats carbs late at night.

49:46Ronnie Karam: So KJ's like well I can't believe Jesse asked about that shit. Kyle says what? And Wes is like oh yeah Jesse approached me and said I want to make out with Sierra. Do you think Sierra would be mad if she found out? Wait, do you think that Sierra would be mad if she found out he said that? Probably, right? And he's like, well, I mean, the whole thing's just weird. I mean, I don't know about that. She would destroy him if she knew.

50:09Ben Mandelker: She would destroy him. So basically, the reading in between the lines, Wes will do the nuclear option if Jesse pursues this. He's going to be like, Wes is clearly going to go to Sierra and say, hey, Jesse's been saying this, treating you like an object that's passed around, right? and so uh i i suspect west is going to bring it to sierra so kyle's like are they testing the waters i was like well i don't think he's there yet which is like why i'm like why would you bring it up to me you know it's like well that's your boy's ex-girlfriend yeah it's not like it was a hookup it's just like you guys were like dating and like that was like your girlfriend like fuck all that bro oh god that's crazy being raised around women right guys yeah i don't know if

50:54Ronnie Karam: that was his girlfriend, but maybe I'm remembering it different. And Kyle's like, yeah, I mean, maybe it was a gray area, but like, you guys did go through some shit. Ben's like, yeah, I understand why people would have a crush on her. I mean, when I talk to her, I'm like, fuck, you're next level. Me? Who? I've been here the whole time.

51:13Ben Mandelker: I've been actually with you guys. I came back with you guys. I'm part of the 4.50, 4.06 AM crew. You didn't realize I was here, but I've been here.

51:20Ronnie Karam: And Wes doesn't think that Sierra's going to go for it anyway. So he's like, whatever. So now it's 8.48 a.m. And Lindsay wakes up and she's like, oh my god, Gemma, let's FaceTime. Oh my god, hi, it's your mommy. How are you doing? Did you get a contract today? I need you to be less lazy while mommy's away.

51:42Ben Mandelker: Can you show me your press releases you wrote today? Thank you. Sierra and Mia are in bed and Mia's like, I had the weirdest dream. It was a spicy dream about Jon Hamm. And they're like, see how it's like, because we all know it probably was like really annoying. Right. Because honestly, Jon Hamm outside of Mad Men is just not the same. Right. He's just so he's so goofy. Just doesn't hit the same. Yeah.

52:12Ronnie Karam: I mean, he played such a good asshole on Mad Men and it was about an asshole. But yeah, I mean, it worked for Mad Men. But yeah, in other things, I don't. He's just been trying to be funny ever since.

52:23Ben Mandelker: And I'm like, just please stop. Just go back to doing Jon Hamm characters.

52:27Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Here's one thing I don't want to see Jon Hamm do. Smile. And he smiles. You know, like when they make him smile and things. I'm like, whoa, whoa. That's a different person. I don't want to see him smile. Yeah.

52:37Ben Mandelker: I want to see him moody and sullen. Yeah. And giving an ad pitch. Yeah. So that's my way of saying I can only imagine how that must have been for me to have that dream. So Sierra is like, ooh, I'm uncomfortable. She's like, yeah, it was uncomfortable. He kept on trying to do comedy bits during the dream. It was just not working.

52:58Ronnie Karam: Then we go to Kyle, Lindsay, and Bailey outside. And Lindsay's like, oh, my God. I was like such a good hype girl yesterday. And Ben goes swimming. And Bailey's like, good day, mate. Good day, mate. Wow.

53:12Ben Mandelker: Hey, who let the Calvin Klein model in here, right, guys? So Sierra's asking Mia how she looks. and she's going to make a matcha. And then in the backyard, Lindsay's sitting next to Ben and she's like, sorry. Sorry for what? I just accidentally, you know, touched me.

53:31Ronnie Karam: Yeah, sorry.

53:33Ben Mandelker: My dad's like, I'm doing it again.

53:34Ronnie Karam: Whoops, whoops. Oh my God, I'm sorry I keep touching your arm.

53:39Ben Mandelker: How do you say arm in Australian? Arm. Arm. Rim. Rock it out. So Bailey is like, wow. Lindsay, she could flirt with a rock. I mean, it's the craziest thing I've ever seen. They are literally just like in awe of her. I mean, she's just being herself and she's just so confident. I'm just like, wow, I aspire to be like this. Olympic status flirter.

54:02Ronnie Karam: So now Ben sees Kyle and he's like, are you mustaching it right now? Should I get on that train? I'd like a hairy train. I really do. I feel like it makes people more manly. I mean, not Kyle, but you know, he is trying. So that's nice. Well, all right. I'll grow a mustache then for the rest of the summer. Oh, do you think I know how to flirt, by the way? yes. Thank you. Thank you. He's, by the way, completely ignoring her. He's talking to everybody else and she's kind of on the other couch and she's like, I'm not a flirt. And he just kind of like looks back but not looks back at her. He just turns his head enough to go, yes.

54:38Ben Mandelker: And then turns away. It's like he's driving and he's like turning his head back to speak to someone in the backseat. He's like, yes, you're doing a great job with the flirting. Love your commentary about how you like a man with a mustache. And then we see a flashback again i've heard be like i like a hairy man the hairy man are really hot i like a hairy sweaty man so ben says well i think once or twice maybe like i think you can like turn it on when you want to like you can definitely flirt if you try i have been trying oh well uh i think you have potential to be an even better flirter okay well i'm just gonna be a complete today that's what i'm gonna do I'm a whore is this the flirting I'm not sure

55:19Ronnie Karam: tell everybody when I walk out the village whore is here the village whore has arrived am I flirting so Lindsay is like the village whore is here oh my god she just called me a whore so Carl and KJ come back because they went running and they brought back food guys so Carl's like oh guys let's load up the quiller you know why suck I love hosting parties I think Renaissance Fair is like one of the best themes we've ever come up with. So I'm going all out. Big motherfucking turkey legs, knights armor, bells of hay. It has the opportunity to be literally the best party we've ever had. Ren Faire. Yeah.

55:57Ben Mandelker: I love that I came up with the idea of Ren Faire. What an original idea. So people are eating food and people are asking me. I was asking how she can help with the party. Well, I think I just need a repulsive energy and enthusiasm. You know, some of Carl energy. Oh, sock energy. You know what I'm saying? it's like okay well what time did you guys leave the club and they're saying uh oh it was late and she goes well i just remember kj you had two girls sitting on your lap which means that uh now we're gonna get another kj monologue about what it's like being torn between being a man whore and a non-man whore well there's a part of me that's kind of enjoying it like oh bro you got all these girls on your lap and you're surrounded but then like my feminine side is like this isn't right like if my mom saw this she'd be like what are you doing like who do you think you are i'm just like trying, trying not to be a lover boy feels very fraudulent.

56:48Ben Mandelker: We're going to have to wrap up the storyline. It's not working for me. Like KJ seems nice and lovely, but him, uh, debating, like grappling between being a lover boy or a non lover boy is just like really not doing it for me. Yeah.

57:04Ronnie Karam: Uh, so then Jesse is getting into bed with Sierra and Mia comes. And so first we see when West and Lindsay in her room and she's like um is that my bestie Westie um it rhymes is that how it was last night and he's like um I was just mixing it up yeah well how are things going with Sierra well good but like we got along but then Jesse told me do you care if I make out with Sierra I'm really determined that somebody tells Sierra this so maybe you can finally be the one to take this back to her because I've told everyone in the house and no one said anything help a brother out yeah so lindsey's like wait back it up jesse asked you and like a serious like

57:43Ben Mandelker: like seriously like where were you there you know and kj's like yeah i was there it was really hard for me because i'm like what would a lover boy do what would a non-lover boy do i didn't really

57:54Ronnie Karam: think anything of it but then ben last night was like that was the weirdest shit ever like you know it's weird timing so like ben said it oh my god ben's hot yeah like a really hot guy said it so must be really offensive. I wonder if he's going to tell Sierra. I hope no one tells her.

58:12Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it would be terrible if someone told her and like ruined Jessie's chance to ever get with her. By the way, I was thinking about something. Do you think that KJ, his whole like lover boy thing, like, oh man, I really want to be a man slut. But then the side of me says, no, don't be a man slut. Do you think that Wes told him before the season, look, last season, Emeril basically got on the bad side of all the women in the house because he brought back too many women. and then the viewers didn't like him at all because of it and they thought he was like really gross. So you can't bring in anyone home.

58:41Ben Mandelker: So like maybe your story should be that like you want to bring people home but you can't because you were like raised by like you have all sisters. Like because I can totally imagine Wes telling that to KJ. KJ would be like, okay, cool. That'll be my storyline.

58:54Ronnie Karam: It's a decent theory. I mean at the very least, yeah, they're going for an anti-M rule type thing where they go from like the biggest like man whore to someone who's like, I just can't. I'm addicted to respecting women. I'm addicted to respecting my sisters and mother. It does seem a little heavy handed. I mean, I didn't believe it at first. I just figure, no, that's a fuck boy. And he's just coming and he's laying down the groundwork. Like I'm going to try to be a fuck boy because I'm normally not one. Wish me luck guys. Yeah. I don't know. So, um, Lindsay is saying, um, like, well, we got the whole, like, He got this whole room of single guys together to make sure that everyone knew that he wants to make out with her.

59:37Ronnie Karam: Like, what the hell? He's like, Lindsay, goddammit, sometimes you're so good. She goes, no, I mean, that was him calling dibs. That's what he was doing.

59:46Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I like that Wes did not connect these dots. Or he did connect the dots, but he doesn't want to be the one to say it. So he's having Lindsay say it instead.

59:52Ronnie Karam: He was just being a wuss. Instead of saying something to Jesse, he's going to go around complaining and being a victim to everybody else in the house so that they say something to Jesse or Sierra because he doesn't want to do it. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1:00:05Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's pretty obvious that he was calling dibs. And Wes is like, wow, I didn't even think about that. So meanwhile, Sierra and Jesse are being flirtatious. The latest version of their flirtation is that they're spooning in bed. And Sierra's baby talking to him. And he's like, I'm just trying not to get a boner. She's like, please don't. You can call me King Solomon.

1:00:30Ronnie Karam: Now we go back to the other group. and Wes is like, I don't even think that Sierra would do anything with him. She's like, I'm just confused about Jesse in general right now. And Wes is asking her what she thinks changed in him. She's like, maybe he's catching

1:00:44Ben Mandelker: feelings for her.

1:00:48Ben Mandelker: So now they start setting up for the Renaissance party, which is fun. And Jesse has found a little toy piano. So he's like tinkering on it like a chicken on the Golden Girls. And he's making these little songs and amanda's like write me a song jesse solomon uh which is actually quite close to a billy joel lyric and jesse's like okay her name was amanda she had something to say she looks so good every single day she's like okay well that's better that should be your next spotify hit yeah you know it's so funny because i literally like i meet a girl and then i write a song about it for the next week and then immediately send her the file jesse solomon

1:01:34Ronnie Karam: yeah that was one of the songs is that cringe yeah it really is well i did just write a song about like being in love with your best friend it's so good you know i'm not saying who it's about secretly i want you so bad you're as shiny as a tiara just wish we could walk down the street holding hands with not gonna say the name

1:02:00Ben Mandelker: not gonna say the name guys I love the smell of Sierra yeah but I'm not gonna say who it is so the producers are like well it's Sierra right and he's like I'm not saying it's about Sierra I may have a very secret homosexual love for West who knows but she doesn't know

1:02:23Ronnie Karam: so um then we go to lindsey and bailey hanging out by the pool and lindsey's like oh my god did carl steal shrek's shoes again we see carl's uh crocs his green crocs yes and bailey's like i

1:02:38Ben Mandelker: like his bodega slides he's got them on i think he got them on sale and lindsey goes yeah i can so now lindsey and sierra are wearing inflatable riding horse costume thingies and are sword

1:02:51Ronnie Karam: fighting and uh amanda's like this is the most you'll ever see me and sierra fight oh she popped my tent then jesse and west are sharing a floaty in the pool and jesse's like oh there's a video of sierra it's like jokey flirty and she replied to it like oh west goes oh yeah so that video of

1:03:11Ben Mandelker: you guys in the car so it's like all jokey he's like yeah i think it is i mean we've always had a good friendship and like you know she's hot and we've just been like vibing and flirting you know and he's like um so you were asking permission no which is the nice thing to do you know like just in you know in case we got drunk and made out like i don't want it to be like weird you know

1:03:33Ronnie Karam: you know bro yeah and he's like well i mean i just want you to know like i talked to the guys and they thought it was really really weird so i don't know i thought it was weird this is kind

1:03:48Ben Mandelker: of like a weird kind of pussy note from him like just say that you think it's weird you don't have he's like he's like afraid to say it he's like um i spoke to like a lot of people and they all think it's weird so i guess i think it's weird too but i just want you to know everyone thinks it's weird so it's not just me so you can't get mad at me yeah well you know what it's been a really long

1:04:06Ronnie Karam: time now and i made a rhyme with tiara so i don't know i was like well i mean just saying like the guys thought it was really weird kj and bent both thought it was really weird and jesse does that thing where he gets mad but he keeps his big stupid open smile and he's like his smile starts

1:04:23Ben Mandelker: to slowly descend into like the upside down trapezoid and so then west is like yeah i mean um man was like really bugged out and he's like a celebrity so we don't want to bug him out you know it's like really like yeah i mean like on paper you ask your boy if you can like make out with his ex but like i think most people in my position would be like would like call you like a weirdo or like a dickhead for asking you know you know what i'm saying like some some people would do that like i don't know if i'm doing it but like some some would do it i mean what am i

1:04:52Ronnie Karam: what should i have done just like not asked and not done it i mean like the fact that you dated her makes it like weirder but it's not gonna stop me and west is like uh yeah i mean look i don't know that west gets to call dibs on sierra there's only so many people allowed in the house and i I don't think you're allowed to do that in this. I get what he means that Jesse is supposed to be his best friend and stuff, but he's also kind of besties with Sierra. So I don't know. I don't know. I think Jesse is also competitive.

1:05:25Ben Mandelker: And I think that, you know, he alluded to it last year.

1:05:27Ronnie Karam: I think ultimately, I think Jesse's a douchebag. I just think that West is kind of getting off here and everyone's going to go for Jesse as the douchebag, which Jesse is a douchebag. But I don't know. They're both kind of being gross. Like, I don't know that you really get to fight for Sierra either. You fucked her over. Like, you kind of gave up your rights to that.

1:05:47Ben Mandelker: You did fuck her over. And there's no future between you and Sierra. So there's that. And I think Jesse, his whole, what he alluded to last season was like, I was interested in Sierra also. It just so happened that, like, Wes called dibs on her first. So I never had a shot at her. So I feel like I want to have my shot at her. So that's what, that's where I think Jesse's coming from. And he's sort of coming from the Love Island school of I'm just here to find love. And like, yeah, Fred would be great. But like, I've got to like look out for me because like that's what I'm here to do is to find love.

1:06:18Ben Mandelker: Which is not really a real life way to approach situations. But I think that's the kind of vibe he's putting in. Like you had your shot. It didn't work out. It doesn't change anything between us. But now I want to take my shot. But it's just life isn't really like that. I mean, it's your best friend and it's just a little weird. Yeah.

1:06:36Ronnie Karam: Well, let's see what happens, everybody. Yeah, I don't know. I think if it's surreal, then try it on the offseason and don't wait until the cameras start rolling again. And then you can, you know, build up Wes the entire time just to try and compete with him. He's very transparent in this whole thing. Yeah, I agree. I agree. So let's see what happens. All right, everybody. We will talk to you later. See some of you in Los Angeles this Friday night. If you want to be there, go get streaming tickets at WatchWhatCrapins.com and we'll talk to you soon. Bye. Bye.

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