#3245 Vanderpump Rules S12E13: Goat Cheese Brawl

0:21Ben Mandelker: Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me today is someone who I just adore. We went through war together the first two months of this year, and now we've emerged. It's Ronnie Karam. How are you?

0:39Ronnie Karam: Well, hello, Ben.

0:42Ben Mandelker: Hello there. The war, of course, was planning for the crappies. We've mentioned it a lot, but some people just may not realize that if you missed the crappies, you can actually watch it on Kizwee. Crappies.Kizwee.com or just go to our website, watchfacrappies.com and there's a replay that's going to be available through the 13th of March. So watch it. There's all sorts of great stuff. We had an amazing, amazing time doing the show. Also, by the way, we have a crossover episode on our feed today with Rob has a podcast where we talked about the traitors and Survivor 50. that was a tremendous time so go check that out and guess what he's not going to be the only one from the traders we're going to talk to this week so just stay tuned okay everyone today we are talking Vanderpump rules oh and I should also mention we are going to have a bonus newsletter this week normally we only have one but this week we're doing a whole crappies newsletter where we're going to talk about we're both going to talk about our experience with the trap crappies with the trappies with the crappies and, you know, what it was like preparing and what the show was like, et cetera.

1:55Ben Mandelker: So keep an eye out for that. That'll be out later this week or maybe today, who knows when. But in the meantime, today we're talking Vanderpump Rules. Really excited to talk about this one. And I do want to highlight that these kids, they are so funny. Like we wound up having like the entire cast, almost the entire cast of the show come to the crappies. It wasn't even meant to be that way. We had, so we had Chris and Jason and they were like our, our little miss crappies. That's what we had last year. The person to bring people on and off and to carry the awards out, et cetera. So we're like, wouldn't it be fun if we have Chris and Jason, the eyebrow twins.

2:30Ben Mandelker: So they were, they were serving that role on the show. And then we had Marcus and Shane as guests, but then they all invited people from the cast. So then all of a sudden we had this like giant contingent from Vanderpump rules and it was so fun. They all came out on stage. They all lined up at the front of the stage. And I swear they were having the best time. They were, they were having their own party. Like that. It was like, we were, we were at the Vanderpump rule show. Those kids, they were partying their asses off. They were like, it was like, I think there's like, I'm not sure if this is true or not.

3:05Ben Mandelker: I felt like this was like their first big public thing that they've done as a cast since the show came out. Did you get that sense, Ronnie? Well,

3:11Ronnie Karam: I'm sure they've done other stuff, but man, they'll show up and party. That's for sure. They were great.

3:17Ben Mandelker: They were so nice. I have to say, it makes me feel bad to make fun of them. And I will continue to do that. You know, Chris and Jason arrived, you know, because they actually had a role in the show. They arrived so promptly, like so on time. They're like, hey, we're here. Well, how can we help? I mean, they were like professionals. And everyone was so lovely. Kim was so nice. Like the feedback that I got from the people working backstage was that Kim was one of the nicest people the entire night. I was like, Kim? But she was. She was so nice. Um, and, uh, and then Natalie came up to me at one point and she's like, oh my God, when you were like making fun of how I fell down the stairs, that was like so funny.

3:54Ben Mandelker: Cause you were like, hasn't she been to the other half? She's never like went to the other half of the house. And like, how does she even deal with parking garages? And the truth is I always fall down staircases. It's like crazy. Like, cause the thing is I was like raised in a single, single story home. So I think I just like don't understand staircases. Jerkai says, she cracked me up. So definitely like, yeah, really, really fun.

4:19Ronnie Karam: Nice group of people. They were all really sweet. Had a great time. Yeah.

4:23Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Now let's rip them apart.

4:25Ronnie Karam: Yes. Now let's rip them to shreds. Okay. So their first reunion, a lot of people are pretty surprised that this got a reunion because the Valley did not. The Valley, they were like, okay, here's$5 and nine episodes. That's it. Bye. Maybe Persian style. Yeah. Yes. Valley Persian style. But this one, they gave a full two-parter too, which is pretty good.

4:53Ben Mandelker: But you know, it's Vanderpump Rules. It's such a major show for the network. I think they just felt like they just had to. They had to do it. And I was okay with that. You know, you, you, there, apparently the show has had like, is, is like, like had like exponential growth over the course of the season. Like it really is like the, there were reports coming out over the past few days that like their ratings actually were really up hot, like, like really, really increased over the season. So it's a good sign for this cast. Cause we, you know, I won't say we, I'll say I really enjoy this, this show a lot.

5:25Ben Mandelker: And I think it's actually a really good cast of just kooky young kids trying to drink and be famous. Yeah.

5:34Ronnie Karam: And now it's interesting because it's the season has aired, obviously. And so this is the first time we've seen them since they've seen each other talking shit about each other. And this is when every reality show kind of starts to get good because that's when you truly get pissed and you see what everybody said behind your back. And that's when you start to unravel and you've seen how the audience is reacting to you and you get pissed off about that. Like, who's more popular on Twitter and who's, you know, getting more shit on Instagram comments and who has more Reddit threads hating them and stuff like that.

6:10Ronnie Karam: And that's what we're seeing today. I mean, the biggest the biggest one affected, obviously, is Audrey, who basically has a fit through the entire thing. And she's really going for it. You know, so I hand her that. She's making some effort here, but she is trying to blame a lot of shit that was her own fault on other people. And I think she kind of failed it. She was the only one that didn't really have a lot of grace. Everybody else was kind of giving each other grace. And I think she came off like kind of an asshole. Now, that said, I did appreciate that she and Venus both got that hair moisturized.

6:49Ronnie Karam: Their hair on both of those kids looked great.

6:52Ben Mandelker: so as your auntie i say thank you thank you that's all i needed seriously um i uh yeah i really enjoyed them oh my god there's a there's a fly in my coffee wow you know it's so kill it with fire um i have to say my favorite part of the reunion was the venus and marcus exchange when they were like fighting but then they started to both cry and marcus crying is like my favorite because he does that thing where he when he blinks he like squints both eyes because some people do that they're like instead of just like bling the like and so like marcus is like squinting out his tears he's like i didn't realize how much affected he was like straight guy tears and they're both like crying towards each other and i was like this is i know this is like a really sweet and lovely moment but i am laughing out loud right now the whole thing was funny okay so they're all

7:44Ronnie Karam: on stage and by stage i mean in front of the actual bar at sir and um so we right they were right weren't they really uh yeah they were yeah they were they were actually they were not on a set they were just actually at sir okay so um five four three here we go here we go guys here we go and marcus is like are we gonna start with some warm-up vibes you're just gonna get straight to What's going on here, guys? And then we see sneak peeks of the upcoming reunion, which I'm not going to go into. But the cast is watching stuff. And we go to the Sir Patio. And Venus is like, oh, my God. When you raised your voice, I got a boner.

8:28Ben Mandelker: Also, when you didn't raise your voice, I got a boner. I haven't had sex in eight years. I'm just getting a lot of boners left and right.

8:33Ronnie Karam: How old is Venus? He said he hasn't had sex in eight years. I mean, smuddle.

8:39Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I think he's like 25. No, he's got to be like 27 maybe. I'm not sure. By the way, Venus got a huge amount of applause from the audience. The audience loved Venus. It was interesting to see who was the audience favorites. It was like Shane and Venus were the ones that got the biggest reception, I think, on Friday night.

8:59Ronnie Karam: Well, one lady was going crazy for Shane. I mean, everybody went crazy for Shane, but one lady was like, Shane! Shane Davis!

9:07Ben Mandelker: Shane Davis!

9:08Ronnie Karam: that i looked at her face because she was screaming like that like she wanted to get him or something i was waiting to see her hold like a little caveman cudgel thing or like back or something to come get him and i looked at her face and her blonde hair was like sticking out like crazily and then she was making a real like she looked angry she was like oh my gosh did um i have a

9:31Ben Mandelker: question when you were doing your keytar song i i shouldn't call it that because it's just like your song, but I just like to call it your guitar song. Cause that was my favorite part when you pull up the guitar. When you were doing it, could you hear the Vanderpump Rules kids? Because they were loaded up in the wings. Cause they were going to be coming on stage not too long afterwards. And so there were like literally like eight of them. And I was back, I was with them and they were just there and they were just like having a party and you were singing. And I had to be like, guys, shh, guys, Ronnie's singing.

10:04Ben Mandelker: I was like the mom. I was like, guys, can you keep it down a little bit? But they were just having a party there. And I was like, Ronnie, could you hear them back there? Were they being disrupted?

10:13Ronnie Karam: We do not appreciate the theater. Get some respect over here.

10:19Ben Mandelker: Ronnie's doing a parody of Where the Hell is My Husband? I'm sorry.

10:23Ronnie Karam: Yeah, no, I was blacked out. I would have blackout during that stuff. I didn't hear anything.

10:27Ben Mandelker: By the way, I also don't know how you did that song. Like to this moment, like, I don't know. I'm sorry to be navel-gazy about our show. But like, honestly, you getting through all those lyrics, I don't I just don't know how you did it.

10:39Ronnie Karam: The teleprompter. That's how. Thank Jesus for teleprompters. I mean, the wheel was a pretty good invention, but the teleprompter lifesaver. OK. Yeah. Thank God for that thing. OK. So then we go to Audrey's like, yeah, that was deep. I had to let it out. Sorry, guys. Sorry, but I'm a badass. And now we see the parking lot and trailers and stuff like that. everybody's arriving and Audrey needs shots to get through the day. And this is when we see her new look. She's got a Marilyn Monroe look and she's very like diva coming to the show. It's like, I'm the star of this bitch.

11:14Ben Mandelker: And then Andy's sitting with Lisa in a trailer and he's like, wow, I'm excited. Whoa. Shane Davis. Wow. And Lisa's like, Oh, I love all of them right now. Right now. It's, it's pure. It's ambition. They think that they have a future. It's so delicious. I just want to inject it into my veins.

11:34Ronnie Karam: So much pain yet to be caused. So many wings to be broken. Then we cut to Chris, Chris, and he's like, I think it's going to be a slimy day, guys. I don't know what he meant by that, but the man works on only fans. How much worse could this be? Yeah. Yeah. You literally work with lube all day.

11:56Ben Mandelker: You're already dealing with slimy things. Like physically, no judgment, just like it's lube. Yeah, physically.

12:03Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I mean, like lube, like slime. So then we go, we see more sneak peeks, and then we cut to Andy talking to Angelica. You have a baby pact with Shane? And Shane's like, she would like to have my jeans. Ha, ha, ha.

12:20Ben Mandelker: Yeah. So anyway, after all this opening stuff, which we will obviously get to over the course of the reunion, we see the title card, and now we're here at the reunion stage welcome to the vanderbilt brule season 12 reunion i'm andy cohen and while the faces sir have changed we also have a new staff that was a dig at you lisa anyway the faces have changed drama dysfunction dreams of making an la are still on the menu right next to the goat cheese balls lisa you're aging reverse can you believe it's 13 years now I want to say something, um, at the after party, uh, we're talking to some people who were at the show and they were like, the craziest thing happened today.

13:02Ben Mandelker: We saw a huge Bentley and, uh, it had pulled up to a parking meter and the person trying to pay the meter was all confused. So like when someone in the group went up to help the person with the parking meter and then she came back and then they're like, uh, do you realize that was Lisa Vanderpump? And so they had helped Lisa Vanderpump with the parking meters. Then they went and they basically went back to Lisa and were like, hey, can we get a photo with you? So Lisa took a picture with them. And they're like, Ben, you won't believe it. She's like airbrushed in real life. And I saw the photo. Lisa's face looked 100 % facetuned.

13:39Ben Mandelker: But they were like, but we took this photo. We didn't facetune it. And it was shocking. Like Lisa is like so photogenic. She literally has filters that are like happening in real life. i've just never i've literally never seen that happen in a photo before did they show you that

13:56Ronnie Karam: picture no i didn't see it oh my god yeah lisa's gonna get buffed and she's like a bowling alley lane she's gonna get buffed before every night you know yeah it's amazing all right well lisa you are aging in reverse and she's like you too darling if reverse was forward times two now you know look the whole thing the hair dye i noticed it i feel like i've aged a lot more than 13 years with this lot, get it.

14:24Ben Mandelker: What do you mean with this lot? You mean like this parking lot? No, it's British for group, Andy. Keep up. And we see some flashbacks to the very first Vanderpump Rules re-ended in 2013. It's like, wow. So then now it's time to go around the horn. Hi, Venus. What are you manifesting for today? Sex. Just lots of sex. I'm so horny, Andy. And also, I guess, surviving the drama. Okay, Angelica, quick question. If I need a ride to LAX, can I get one? She's like, I'll drive you in a heartbeat, Andy.

14:55Ronnie Karam: I was really impressed that Andy didn't say, love the new bill. I know. That's an Andy thing, but he didn't do it today. And says hi to Shane. Your laugh has been quite the topic. People always commented. He's like, well, some people say I have a hot guy laugh. And some people say I have a dumb guy laugh, Andy. Well, which one is it? I guess it's a hot, dumb guy laugh, Andy. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha.

15:23Ben Mandelker: All right, very good. Marcus, bring me up to speed. Are you and Kim together right now? He's like, yeah, brother, we're together. And Kim's like, yeah, I know that's a surprise to everybody, but yeah, America's sweethearts back together.

15:37Ronnie Karam: Literally, nobody is surprised. Kim, you look beautiful. Marcus joked you're the only person in the world who's 100 % straight. Gross. How's that? She's like, well, he just doesn't understand that I'm not attracted to women in West Hollywood that are kissing and having fun. That's just not my vibe. Mostly the having fun part. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

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18:26Ronnie Karam: Yeah, we're totally fine with being gay.

18:30Ben Mandelker: So Marcus goes, yeah, I mean, she did recently, you know, admit to a girl crush on Angelica. And I was like, interesting. And he's like, okay. Well, Marcus, this begs the question. What percent straight are you? Would you like to explore your gay side? Have you ever hung out with Charisse's son from Potomac? Should we all get together?

18:54Ronnie Karam: Well, Andy, I'm about two fingers up my butt right now. So I guess that would leave me at 80 % straight. Not counting thumbs. I like that. Okay, Natalie, love your song, Passenger, JK. And I heard you grew up in the same town. It's Ariana Grande. Do you know Ariana Grande? Hey, could you text her right now and tell her, Andy's a dad?

19:22Ben Mandelker: Could you text her and say Wicked for good? More like Wicked for I'm a dad. Hey, Demi, I hear you have a new man in your life. She's like, his name is Reed. We've been together almost a year. He's the old GM from Sur. I keep it in the restaurant. I guess, God, he makes me so happy. Can you see I'm just like totally glowing right now?

19:42Ronnie Karam: He's a 76-year-old GM from Sir. We're totally happy. Thank you for asking. Okay, Jason, not going to say anything to you. Just say, Jason. Jason's eyebrows are like, hi. Hello, sir. Well, I'm not sure we've ever seen Lisa demote someone in the way she demoted you. So are you the host, Stanley? Where are you? Tell us the truth, Jason. He's like, well, like, honestly, I want to be real rounded. And, like, I figure you could know you could work the host, maybe serve, bartend, serve, jerk off, I don't know, paint signs, whatever they need.

20:18Ben Mandelker: He's like, okay, well, I don't really think that was your decision, though. And I think that this is when they show the clip of Lisa saying, can you please describe the crab cake? He's like, well, it's crab, and it comes in the form of cake, and it's, like, really good. I know it comes in the form of cake. It's called a crab cake, you idiot.

20:37Ronnie Karam: So Abby's like, hey, Audrey, you look gorgeous. Old Hollywood meets skin. She's like, yeah, it's giving like a slutty Marilyn Monroe. Okay, tell me you don't know who Marilyn Monroe is without telling me.

20:53Ronnie Karam: That's the point. That's the point of Marilyn Monroe. We wouldn't call it slutty, though. We'd call it sexy.

21:00Ben Mandelker: Some like a cold. Andy's like, oh, there you go. Chris, love that you normalize penis pumps. What? Why would you love that? You have one, Andrew. Oh, my goodness. Like, no. But I actually needed a little explanation on it. And Shane helped me out the other night. I watched what happens live. And then we see a flashback to Shane. They're talking about the penis pumps and how Shane's like, yeah, I don't use one because it hurts. I just use a erectile dysfunction mesh. That's just how I do it.

21:38Ronnie Karam: Yeah, this cast is pretty out of the closet with sex stuff. And sex help stuff. It's like, here's the crutch I use. How about you? Anybody? I'll raise you a cock ring. Anybody? Anybody? So Chris is like, yeah, you know, I really wanted to bring it to light because Everyone's so scared to talk about their sexuality Sometimes you just gotta pump it up a little bit That's my mission You know? I want to talk about guys' dicks And getting them bigger and harder Thank you I started a.org website Thank you

22:15Ben Mandelker: I'm waiting for a little inspirational drum

22:21Ronnie Karam: I'm not on TV for the fame I'm here to help dudes' dicks So

22:28Ben Mandelker: Well, let's get started. Last year, Bravo announced it was rebooting Vanderpump Rules with a new group of servers and bartenders sending shockwaves to the brinosphere. And Lisa, what do you say to people who compared this to the original Vanderpump Rules of the past?

22:45Ronnie Karam: Oh, I understand. Of course they're going to compare. But we're talking about different people, different problems, different lives, different boobies. And those are just in one season. Get it? This group had very strong personal stories so well. Take this one, Mindy. Mindy had a rough time letting go of her whole seat. My name is Audrey. I don't care, darling. Shut up. Here's the point. We finally got Cena out. You're welcome, America.

23:20Ben Mandelker: Natalie, the season kicked off with you returning from a week-long suspension for screaming at your ex-boyfriend at this very bar. So we see the footage of that again and Demi talking about it. And Natalie's like, just for the record, that was like so not my intention. I was there with like my family and my ex was being like so kind to them that it like kind of triggered them because I was like, why are you being nice to my family? Like, I don't even get it, really? Does that mean that you and I are good then? Because you weren't acting like you and I are good. And I was just like, ah, because that was like me singing my song as like revenge.

23:51Ben Mandelker: And then I fell down a staircase because I'm from a single-story home. So that just was a lot for me at first.

23:58Ronnie Karam: From a single-story home will always make me laugh until the end of time. And how'd that go? It's like, I mean, obviously not amazing. Obviously not. And he's like, okay, Paolo, the ex-boyfriend in question, was in an accident a few months ago, and thankfully he's doing much better. They're like, oh my God, thank God for Paolo. Yay, Paolo's great. And they tell the story of Paolo. And Natalie's like, I had dinner with Paolo, but I never heard from him again. So I knew. So I called Demi. And then sure enough, Paolo was in the ICU. Interesting that you called Demi. Wow. It's basically like calling an Amazon assistant to get a hug.

24:40Ben Mandelker: Yeah, well, Paolo is like one of my closest friends. Just like sometimes I just think back at all the fun times we've had together. I mean, look, look at me. I can't stop smiling.

24:51Ronnie Karam: yeah well do you two had a relationship did you not tell me it's like well i mean we had a fling but like it was just like i was just out of a five-year relationship and i wasn't ready for something serious that he wanted because you know every 50 year old wants to settle down with like a 25 year old but like he started seeing this new girl natalie without telling me so that was like

25:10Ben Mandelker: that was great but i had no idea because like that conversation happened on the second floor and i

25:16Ronnie Karam: just didn't even know how to get up there yeah whatever you knew what stairs were on because because you had no problem with making up with him on the stairs. So whatever, Natalie. Fucking liar. God. Natalie definitely saw us fighting, so.

25:27Ben Mandelker: Yeah, but like, that was the night that I found out about it. Whatever. Like, I only found out that there was something between you two after I'd already hooked up with him.

25:35Ronnie Karam: Oh my fucking God. I'm going to lose my mind. Look how heated I am right now. Oh my God. My temperature is through the roof. I'm shaking.

25:43Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it like fucked up our whole friendship. Yeah.

25:46Ronnie Karam: No, because like Paolo's brought me and Natalie together as friends. We were like, wow, isn't it crazy how his hair growing out of his ears? It was like nuts. But like now there's this whole narrative that we were like fighting over a guy and that never happened. We were fighting over like Natalie fucking the guy. It's totally different.

26:04Ben Mandelker: Kim, can you explain why any of this is interesting? Or actually, here's a better question. Can you explain why Natalie's friendship with Marcus was triggering

26:14Ronnie Karam: to you it wasn't triggering like most of marcus's friends are women and like mostly women he's hooked up with and stuff so like i've navigated friendships with girls and they have their tongue down his throat like whatever but like with natalie like as soon as she starts to chat with someone it's like text phone calls facetime you know like morse code you know sos and like i heard one phone call and she had she had with marcus and she was basically like bashing demi and i and That is not cool.

26:42Ben Mandelker: Wait, what? What? Okay, I want to explain that phone call. I wasn't bashing you guys. I was in the process of falling down a staircase. I'm just, like, not used to them.

26:51Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but, like, before filming, when you got suspended, you called Marcus saying Demi and I are not good friends.

26:57Ben Mandelker: Uh, yeah, okay. So, this is, like, that's, like, not what she said. I said that you had called because you were pissed that I was the only one who had your back.

27:06Ronnie Karam: Well, I wasn't pissed, though. Well, I wasn't pissed. Like, I was hurt. I was like hysterically crying like I was so upset like you guys don't know what it's like it's like really hard it's like really really hard

27:18Ben Mandelker: yeah well so as soon as I heard that I texted Natalie in a non-attacking way and I was like I love you but I'm uncomfortable with how you've been calling and navigating your friendship with Marcus in your stupid slutty shoes blah blah blah blah blah and so Natalie's response in my opinion should have been like I'm so sorry you feel that way and instead her response was so you're saying i can't talk to him like how come demi can talk to him and i can't to me that's like a red flag like don't challenge me when i'm setting boundaries as a friend whatever but i don't

27:51Ronnie Karam: like call marcus to be like how's your day like i call marcus to be like oh my god your girlfriend's such a bitch i mean it's totally different i'm like why can't i call marcus but everyone else can call marcus it's just like so unfair it's like literally so unfair you literally stood up

28:06Ben Mandelker: towering over me and screaming with your hands in my face at the belmont that's and that's why i decided to take space from you hashtag boundaries yeah but i did that because you said i was being

28:16Ronnie Karam: inappropriate with your boyfriend so i was pissed but like don't accuse me of not being a girl's

28:20Ben Mandelker: girl i'm a total girl's girl yeah but you're not a girl's girl let me lean forward in my stool to emphasize this okay let's talk about all the press you've done throwing us under the bus and lying about all of us. You said that I've been a bully. Tell me when I've bullied you, okay? And if you can't give me a good answer, I'm going to take your lunch money. Sorry.

28:39Ronnie Karam: You were mean all season, Kim. Venus is like, you were mean. There, I said it. I said it, girl.

28:45Ben Mandelker: Split screen. We're taking it up a level. Split screen. Now they're pointing and they're yelling and everything. Now it's like, you told me I'm pathetic and stupid. Yeah, but you

28:54Ronnie Karam: went on Lala's podcast and said she thinks I want her man. And I said, and you said I'm insecure in my relationship and also you went on Lala's podcast like who does that

29:05Ben Mandelker: who goes on an old person's podcast it's like yeah but I do think you're insecure in your relationship and when I saw the first episode I was like so hurt do you think I want to keep coming to work and be uncomfortable around you you guys are always good but when I come into work I get like ignored and I'm the singer of passengers being ignored

29:25Ronnie Karam: no you don't you don't get ignored yes i do and you've said multiple times lies about me and like we can all we can go back and forth all day and andy goes no we can't okay i want to move on moving on so natalie and kim now get louder and yell over each other and andy's like oh geez chris is just plugging his ears they're like i just want peace no i want peace no i want peace darlings take a breath now breathe out birdies came out magic welcome back to the Vanderbilt Rules in our reunion Chris and Audrey

30:04Ben Mandelker: this season mostly seemed like the healthiest couple on the group but as they inch towards being exclusive Chris was not quite ready for Audrey to be his only fan they're like oh that That was good. That was good, Andy. That was good.

30:23Ronnie Karam: So it seemed like there were sparks in the beginning for you and Chris. What did you first like about him? And Audrey's like, well, I asked him about his type. And he was like, tall, dark hair. So I was like, fuck, I'm screwed. So I was like, you know, like, what about personality? And he was like, you know, personality is good, too. But like, I can't come on his face. You know what I mean? And I thought that made sense.

30:43Ben Mandelker: Chris, what did you, what drew you to Audrey? He's like, well, I think we had chemistry, and she's definitely mature for 22. And I think it's kind of fun when I go to her house and Mary Faith pops out from the shadows. And we both get a scare because I love horror movies. So, I don't know. That's why I was really drawn to that. Okay. And you're 31.

31:02Ronnie Karam: We sticking with that? He's like, yep, 31. And you still used to like older women, I hear. He's like, oh, yeah, I dated a lot of older women. I have a weird thing for older women. And Lisa's like, oh, don't drag me into the equation, tiger.

31:17Ben Mandelker: Yeah, well, Ken better watch out. Ha, ha, ha.

31:21Ronnie Karam: So older women, huh? And he's like, well, like when I was in my teens. Your teens? Wow, let's dig into that one. He's like, well, you know, it was a kink. You know, I thought maybe they're more experienced in bed, so they could teach me a few things. Like magic tricks. Oh, you. You stop it.

31:38Ben Mandelker: I always wondered could I have sex with someone who could saw me in half safely of course Stop it.

31:45Ronnie Karam: What's the point of getting sawed in half? I've never done that one before What do you mean get right to the point anyway and Andre goes fucking Lisa fucking oh my goodness Do ladies speak like that here in the 18th century?

32:03Ben Mandelker: Audrey what was your reaction to Chris being on two reality shows before this one she's like well I was surprised I didn't you know I didn't find out that until you know he came horseback riding and Andy's like and by the way by going on these shows were you trying to make a name for

32:17Ronnie Karam: yourself because that is hilarious that would be terrible people coming on reality tv to make a name for themselves shameful I like that Audrey is also the only person on the planet who just doesn't google stuff yeah she's like yep didn't know anything about him never go like how do you date you google the people what are you doing and if someone you find out someone has an only fans get your damn 1999 out and go look at the only fans do i have to go over there and teach you how

32:46Ben Mandelker: to use the internet seriously so uh andy's like were you trying to find love and chris is like yeah you know to get on the show i would say that but it wasn't really to find love you know you know it's so easy you just tell people what they need to hear just to get in their good graces and then the rest is easy. I mean, sorry, sorry, Audrey. I didn't say that part out loud.

33:05Ronnie Karam: Demi's like, oh my God, I love that he's owning that. I love that.

33:12Ben Mandelker: I don't know why I'm like amused by like, let's check out how Demi's enjoying this reunion.

33:17Ronnie Karam: I think Demi is so underrated on this show. Everyone else gets all the attention, but Demi is so fucking funny on this. She's just so deadpan, you know? Yeah. So Chris is like, well, I mean, sorry. I just wanted to start a new live. and reality TV seemed like the way, like hundreds of people, you know? That's what y 'all do. So Andy asked Audrey about her broken bed frame and she's like, that was more an Ikea problem than like an us problem. But we did have a good time and then we still slept on it, so.

33:47Ben Mandelker: And Marcus is like, nice. And he goes, that's not the answer Chris wants to hear. Because she's like, just say you broke it by having sex. Andy wants to hear about the sex. Yeah, Jason, you said five weeks was a long time for Chris to have been seeing someone at that point. Jason's like, yeah, he's an Aries. Dude's like fire, you know, just like bouncing around. So obviously there was something special in Audrey for him to hold her down. And I see it. She's beautiful on the outside and the inside. She's a very mature girl. Isn't Aries wind? I don't. I thought Aries was war. I don't know.

34:27Ronnie Karam: what is let's look it up yeah let's look it up is air i'm gonna put is aries wind is oh it's the ram it's the ram um the elemental ships um let's see fire one aries aries is fire

34:46Ben Mandelker: i had no idea look at that oh well look look at us learning from sweet sweet young jason

34:52Ronnie Karam: his eyebrows something from jason okay so um and andy's like audrey you were chris on the phone saying you wanted to bat bang mad bitches in valley mad bitches yes so what's the first red flag for chris it was that the first red flag and she's like um it was definitely like the second but like he didn't respond to jason's brother in the way like oh yeah bro getting bitches he was like shut the fuck up so i wasn't really mad at first but then i started spiraling in my head because I realized I really liked him. And just, you know, he said he's been on other shows for not the right reasons. So that made me wonder, is this even real?

35:34Ben Mandelker: I mean, he couldn't even do limited magic at Wonderful World of Harry Potter at Universal Studios. It's like, big red flag. Chris is like, I understand that so much. Well, would you say, Chris, that you're being your authentic self on the show? He's like, yeah, I mean, so the main point of it was that those were dating shows and that was like really it. Like there's a prize at the end. Like that's it, you know? So they're the people at the end of the show and like fake relationships and they want clout to win the prize. But this isn't a dating show. I'm not here for clout. I'm here for networking and to be the next star of Tangled live action movie.

36:09Ronnie Karam: I'm not here for clout. I'm here for followers. And how dare you ask me if I'm being authentic? Did you not just hear my penis pump answer?

36:22Ben Mandelker: Does it sound fake when I give a recommendation of the best body oil? Come on.

36:30Ronnie Karam: Well, talking to someone's not the same. Oh, Audrey's like, well, yeah, I was shown a Reddit thread with certain details that seemed believable. Like he's in people's DMs and stuff. And I was like, well, talking to someone's not the same thing as sleeping with somebody. Well, Natalie says, basically, like this person said that they were seeing you, Chris. And they said the relationship on the show is like fake. What do you say about that?

36:51Ben Mandelker: Yeah, because Andy brings up this question of, is it true that Chris was with someone the entire time? And then Audrey is like, unless men are evil monsters, and then everyone's like shaking their head like they are. And our relationship was all fake. I just don't believe it was disingenuine. And so Andy's like, was it for you? Was it? Chris, you just talked about how you were spent two different reality shows in fake relationships with fake datings that we get to a prize. so was this relationship real for you? He's like, it was 100 % real.

37:26Ronnie Karam: People talk shit, Andy, you know. But there were also rumors from our last dating show that my relationship was bullshit. So, I mean, you just said it was bullshit. Hello?

37:37Ben Mandelker: You just said it was everyone at the end that was in fake relationships. It is gonna hate. Okay. Riddle me this, Chris. You were shocked when Audrey You put the brakes on your relationship at Universal, part of the larger NBC Universal group. If you would like to get some discounts, go to UniversalTours.com. Then just a few days later, you're all in saying you want to commit to her. And then you tell Jason, you're out. So which one is it?

38:06Ronnie Karam: It's like, whoa, yeah, I know. That's so inconsistent. Whoa, bad on me, right? Oof, inconsistency, right? Yeah, super inconsistent. Well, I mean, I wanted to keep doing what we were doing, but also put the brakes on it and be honest about like the future when we might not be doing that thing. Because like I don't want to promise anything or saying something. I'm saying I'm ready for something when I'm not ready, even though I just said all I want is us and I'm ready. So I just, you know, I don't want to lie about something or keep bullshitting, you know, like lying to myself and lying to you. So I was kind of lying, but then I wasn't lying.

38:40Ronnie Karam: So now I'm not a liar.

38:44Ben Mandelker: I'm like, can we go from having a fake real relationship to just a real fake relationship?

38:52Ronnie Karam: Audrey was like, it was completely unfair. Yeah, 100%. So selfish. My bad. My bad. Well, I don't want the relationship. I don't think the relationship was fake, right? No, it was fake. No, no. But like, you know, maybe you just have a problem making up your mind. No, it was fake. Yeah, but like, but like, surely you were like, oh my God, I wonder what Audrey is doing. I was like, I hope Audrey's not coming over. Yeah, but still, like, you really meant, like, you wanted Audrey, right? He's like, no. Let it go. Cut the cord. Cut the cord.

39:23Ben Mandelker: The kale salad you served me, that was real kale, though. No, it was tissue paper. God, that makes so much more sense now.

39:32Ronnie Karam: I had trouble pooping for, like, a week. Oh, it just all seems so complicated, doesn't it? Children. Children with pain. Children with love. Next on Fandapump Roos.

39:46Ben Mandelker: Why didn't you guys just say we really like each other? I'm going away. Why don't you come with me? Or I go with you. Or here's a coin from behind your ear, magic.

39:56Ronnie Karam: What part of banging bad bitches and poly with my guys did you not understand?

40:01Ben Mandelker: I know, Lisa. Did you not watch your own show? Couldn't you just take Audrey to poly? You know, it really comes down to my commitment issues. And, you know, I'm just like at this point in life where I'm just like, I'm not where I think I should be to either be married or to have a girlfriend or waste anyone's time, which is why I told Audrey, I just want to be with you and no one else. I'm all in. I'm not seeing anyone else. Let's go back to the wizarding world of Harry Potter. Am I right?

40:30Ronnie Karam: But you wanted to waste my time and you wanted to like go away and travel and still get to know me. Yes. I mean, that's called dating, though, you know. and he's like yeah but that's what i meant by me wanting to leave the door open for you you know because like look i learned a long time ago like you should hold the door open for a girl and if you don't want to do that you should just leave it open so then i'm still a gentleman like what you're wasting my time and uh andy's like well it seemed over you had her over for salads and natalie's like that is so la by the way

41:03Ben Mandelker: it is yeah you had her over for salads and then said you want to see other people you didn't even give her a vase for the flowers that you were breaking her up with what was the intention there and uh chris is like well i thought you were ready for commitment a commitment to a lower calorie diet and i was just like yeah i know and like i thought you were going to ask me to be your girlfriend and then all of a sudden you give me tulips and a sandwich and say you want to see other people like that was crazy natalie's just like here's a salad don't want to be exclusive so chris is like well i either commit and ask you to be my girlfriend or if it wasn't that that's it and we're done and i just wasn't ready to do either one of those things so i thought maybe we could just have salad and bang i don't know yeah so

41:51Ronnie Karam: So Audrey is like really animated now. And she's like, well, I understand. But like I was expecting to be at least at a point where we weren't going to see other people. And I didn't need you to be my boyfriend. But like we shouldn't see other people. I mean, isn't that the same thing? How is that different? If you're not seeing other people, doesn't that mean you're boyfriend and girlfriend?

42:10Ben Mandelker: I'm not used. I'm really not sure. I think that basically she was embarrassed by the situation because she opened her heart back up to him. And then he was like, actually, I don't want to be exclusive. And she was embarrassed, so she's just like, it's like, no, I'm not fired. I quit. That's basically what's happening.

42:27Ronnie Karam: I think that she has reason to be annoyed because he did fuck with her. But I think she's annoyed because she didn't really want to be with him anyway. She got the ick from him very early on at that trip. She heard the OnlyFans stuff, probably went to watch it, got grossed out, then was talking herself out of it. Then when he did the whole, but I'm here for us, she was like, well, this could be a good show. I think that she was kind of thinking of it as a showmance as much as he was because i didn't get any sense that she actually really liked him

42:56Ben Mandelker: ever yeah no i think it's like no it's like but it's like embarrassing because you're like i have the ick but fine i'll bring this great guy back and then right away you're like oh shit like i never should have done this and now i'm mortified because like you made me look like a fool for taking back and everyone's gonna be like well you never should take him back in the first place

43:14Ronnie Karam: yeah and i agree i agree that that's true and she should she does have a reason to annoy to be annoyed. I think my only point is that she was being as fake as he was. She's like, you're so fake for this show, and you went on dating shows, and everyone's kind of attacking him for being fake, but I think she was being fake, too. I don't think she liked him.

43:33Ben Mandelker: Hot take. I hope Mary Faith is okay with that.

43:37Ronnie Karam: God damn it, Mary Faith! She's like, I've been here the whole time.

43:41Ben Mandelker: I was feeding the lines into Ronnie's ear.

43:45Ronnie Karam: Commercials. Here comes one right now.

43:49Ben Mandelker: so Lisa's like good for you for standing up for yourself whoever you are person next to me on this television show so then um uh they have not hooked up ever since they broke up and Chris Andy's like are you seeing anyone now and Chris like a little bit a little bit I'm seeing someone

44:07Ronnie Karam: yeah he gets quiet just look at him and Audrey's like um well guess what I'm seeing myself and I'm focusing on me and I'm not seeing anyone until I decide if they're worth my time and my energy and my body. And I hope that the person you're seeing that they're ready for you and that you figured yourself out because a bag of salad doesn't cut it.

44:28Ben Mandelker: I hope that whoever you're seeing knows that you can't just wave a wand and make a window light up at Universal Studios. Okay.

44:36Ronnie Karam: Literally, you're terrible at it.

44:39Ben Mandelker: It's literally always supposed to happen for everyone in the theme Park and it doesn't happen for you. Five year olds do it

44:45Ronnie Karam: but you can't.

44:50Ben Mandelker: Be better at limited magic. So Andy's like, welcome back! Marcus and Kim's on and off again wait a second, on again relationship had their colleagues looking at them like they were from Mars, but when Venus fell out of their orbit, the Sir Galaxy became more toxic than ever, see, because Venus is a planet and Mars is Mars, so it's like space and like, you know, solar system okay let's just go let's go forward so kim when you heard marcus say he was falling

45:20Ronnie Karam: out of love that was rough that was rough i called him i called him didn't call me back still waiting on that text but then then you were back together 12 hours later what's the deal with that she's like yeah i was in survival mode because like i was like kind of holding him up when he lost his mom. And then I thought if I were to lose him at the same time, I would lose it.

45:44Ben Mandelker: Lisa immediately goes into broken bird mode because they cut to her and her lower lip is out. She's like, mood is a broken bird. I sense there will be tears coming soon. I'm ready. She's there with a chalice. Like, do it in here.

45:58Ronnie Karam: Do it into this. When it mixes with the stem cells I took from Audrey when she was bent over picking up a Kleenex off the floor, it becomes magic.

46:10Ben Mandelker: So Andy is like, Marcus, what drove you to say that you were falling out of love with Kim? He's like, yeah, well, we were going through a tough time that night, you know, because I wanted to be a DJ. She wanted to just have me answer simple questions, and I didn't want to talk to her face, and I decided I just... She wanted me to answer simple questions. I just... I was like, stop asking me about where the car's parked. I'm out of love with you.

46:37Ronnie Karam: seems like this relationship has been bumpy oh god we're still talking about marcus and kim i have to fast forward because this is this is too much so then um now we get over to venus he's like okay venus is this their typical pattern and venus is like oh my god since the beginning girl like and i truly think like they're not even compatible i mean marcus is like a 35 year old frat boy and kim's like an office executive you know what i mean like what is she even doing like looking for staplers everywhere i mean it's ridiculous and i just think to get like together it's really embarrassing okay and they can both do better him is like that's offensive and i'm reporting you to hr you are not getting the bathroom pass at all today as per my previous email i don't like it when you talk to me like that way could you be cc on me on this next time okay she's like yeah but Venus has not been involved in our relationship for the past six months.

47:34Ronnie Karam: So to say that we're still embarrassing, like people can improve a lot in six months. And Audrey's like, well, that doesn't disregard how he felt about your relationship at that time though. Audrey's on fire for no reason through this whole thing. She's like, and another thing. And everyone else is just looking at her like, uh.

47:54Ben Mandelker: Okay. And Marcus is like, Marcus sort of has like a low blow here. He's like, the thing is with Venus, Venus's perspective comes like somebody who like doesn't know what it feels like to be in love and go through turmoil or to deal with, you know, you know, like Natalie trying to find a paperclip. It's like a really intense thing for us.

48:14Ronnie Karam: I mean, that was kind of low, but it's also true, you know, and I get caught in the same situation because I'm never in a relationship either. And so when sometimes I'll be going off to somebody and they're like, what the fuck do you know? Like, you don't have to deal. You don't you never even have to deal with this, you know?

48:28Ben Mandelker: yeah but like i think the you are not a relationship so you don't really know what you're talking about like i kind of feel like that's half bullshit because oh really well call

48:38Ronnie Karam: me when you're a mother and you understand what it's like to raise children but just because like

48:43Ben Mandelker: you know yes it's you never really know what goes on behind closed doors and they're like sometimes the bickering and the fighting is like a love language but there's also like a lot of couples that don't don't do what marcus and natalie do like it's not the constant breaking up and getting back together it's not bickering in the fighting and using other people as like sort of props in their fighting so like yeah like yes he is not in a relationship so he doesn't understand maybe all the nuances of the thing that happened once you're in a relationship but also like it doesn't take a genius to know like there's some fundamental issues with these these two unfortunately one also

49:19Ronnie Karam: yeah we don't have to be relationship experts to be dragged into it because you keep dragging us into it so i think if venus was there like giving his opinion when he wasn't asked it's one thing but yeah they drag him into it constantly so yeah that's a good point yeah okay so kim is uh

49:36Ben Mandelker: oh sorry venus is saying like you know like that he has his opinion matters because he's been around them more than anyone and angelica's like guys like the last six months i've really been in their corner and i've seen their relationship grow stronger and i do see a foundation of love there and I do think they can work it out. And they're just like, they are growing the way my chest is growing. That's all I'll say about that.

50:00Ronnie Karam: Well, I think they've proven to me that I just need to like love them at a distance. And like, I don't trust either of them. So.

50:07Ben Mandelker: Well, do you think if they were split up, your relationships with both of them would improve? It's like, I guess, but like more with Kim, you know, because she has like so much to teach me about like, you know, doing an invoice or like doing a proper letter, you know.

50:22Ronnie Karam: Changing the ink on Xerox machines is hard, girl. Like I'll take the advice, you know? But like Marcus, like I'll feel the same about Marcus no matter what, like whatever.

50:31Ben Mandelker: Yeah, she knows how to fix like a paper jam. So that's like really helpful to me. It seems like, well, Venus has been in a bad relationship in the past. And the truth is it was a toxic relationship. And I think that like Marcus reminds him of his ex and he's projected a lot of that onto Marcus and I. And Venus is like, yeah, that's true. He's like, yeah. Yeah.

50:50Ronnie Karam: And Kim's like, but I'm not you. That's true, too. Thank God. Okay. So Venus admits that he's like, you know, like, I look at their relationship through my own relationship and protect all my bullshit. So that is true. And he's like, when Marcus is screaming at Kim, like, I don't only get triggered personally, but like, it also unsettles me for her based on how I experienced that situation with me.

51:13Ben Mandelker: So Andy's like, well, I thought that you weren't sexually active in a while. and so he says this is his eighth year uh without sex and so instead of finding love for himself he just inserts himself into other relationships um and now he's just he's like now i've learned i

51:31Ronnie Karam: just won't do that anymore hair fling hair yeah um and he's like kind of crying and stuff and then marcus is like just one more thing like i went out of my way to apologize to venus when he's affected by me and Kim fighting, and I will never include you in that again, okay? Like, have I ever included you since then? No? Right? Okay. Why are you crying? Why are you crying? And Lisa's like, Oh, you crying! Hand me the chalice!

51:56Ben Mandelker: Lisa's like, Wait a second! I didn't realize there's a broken bird just right here to my left. They're everywhere!

52:02Ronnie Karam: Ben, get a Ken, better get a bucket, darling!

52:07Ben Mandelker: We need more chalices! There's tears everywhere! They're gonna come pouring out!

52:10Ronnie Karam: office manager lady go get the gallon water out from the back empty it out and bring it in here

52:16Ben Mandelker: we need it i do love that like kim and venus are basically fighting but now that venus is crying kim's like oh my god are you crying he's like well i mean it's just like the topic overwhelming

52:27Ronnie Karam: for a second but like i'm fine i'm fine about it it's like tell us what you're feeling tell us

52:32Ben Mandelker: this is such a this is such a this really is so like gen z vanderpump rules because it's like wait a second please explain your emotional state right now which is like it's just been so hard

52:46Ronnie Karam: it's been so hard watching markets and camp for so long and then pre-houching it it's like it just hit me is there anything you can share about your past relationship and so he is talking about being in high school and he was with someone who basically abused him who was like punching him hitting him and even when he was driving in a car with him like punched him when he was driving a car full of people which is fucking crazy and he was an alcoholic and he tortured him and then he had a fling with his boss who would make him have sex with him or not get paid what the fuck yeah

53:24Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And then he just like this, like ultimately led to like suicidal ideation. So he had a really rough go of it. And so he has actually a lot of trauma that's wrapped up in relationships and being with people. And then he decided he's just like not going to talk to men ever again. And he's just going to focus on himself. And that's why he moved to LA. So that way he could be the star that he always knew he could be. And he left all that behind. So no dating for right now. and so he has like a nice triumphant moment and they're all they actually all really rally and then this is where marcus he is like he's like it really breaks my heart to see you cry like this because i really felt like you were like fuck you but it makes me feel like damn he really did care about our friendship and in the way that i thought he did and so now they're both crying but like when marcus is crying because he's like i'm not i'm not making fun of a very serious moment in venus's life because by the time marcus is crying they've now like sort of moved past it so now marcus is just like crying about the two of them being friends.

54:20Ben Mandelker: So I'm like, I feel like I can make fun of it again. And he's just like doing this. He's like crying like, I just like Missy, bro. And then he's like saying that he's like, I could be a bitch, but maybe I push Venus to be cold towards him. And so now they're both, they're crying at each other and like loving on each other. And Venus is like, well, Marcus's shitheadiness is, it's endearing because it's like, it's part of our dynamic. He's like, yeah, it's part of our dynamic, bro. I love you, bro. I love you, bro.

54:44Ronnie Karam: Well, Shane, I'm curious how your flirtationship with Natalie started and then drove you to bring another girl to serve. That was hilarious. He's like, well, Marcus invited me out a month or so before filming. And I saw Natalie making out with some dude. It was my birthday. That's why. That's what you do on your birthday.

55:05Ben Mandelker: Yeah. So she was making out with a dude. And I was like, damn. Ha ha. I just like kind of want to be the one making out with her. Ha ha ha.

55:14Ronnie Karam: It was Millie Bobby Brown's brother. I filmed that. Demi.

55:20Ben Mandelker: Demi. Demi with the footnotes. Yeah, so it didn't happen that night, but then the next time I went out with the boys, we met up, and I thought it was a date, but she didn't think it was a date, so. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. And I was like, yeah, I thought we were just, like, meeting up before everyone else in the group. I didn't know it was, like, a date. so andy's like natalie that seems to be a running theme where you don't think it's a day but other

55:46Ronnie Karam: people do oh her brother's pretty cute right of course i had to come look up bill millie bobby

55:52Ben Mandelker: brown's brother yeah i'm gonna look him up also he's pretty cute i think well is this the right

55:58Ronnie Karam: guy three siblings yeah page charlie ava his name is charlie brown can i tell you something

56:05Ben Mandelker: these parents do that to your child why are you naming one child bobby brown another child charlie

56:09Ronnie Karam: brown i'm sorry they were determined to get those kids in to some to be famous somehow right yeah i guess so hold on let me show the people at home who this brother is and we can all decide together whether or not i think he's very hot okay let's look he's got like an eddie munster eddie munster

56:30Ben Mandelker: kind of like widow's peak thing he's cute he kind of looks to me like a young version of um Cersei's brother lover from Game of Thrones Alexander

56:40Ronnie Karam: Jamie Lannister

56:44Ben Mandelker: also Millie Bobby Brown how old is she she looks like she's like 20

56:51Ronnie Karam: I know she did a lot of growing up things I don't know what she did she looks like a full on 20 years later and they're remembering stranger things and not in like an aging way just like a styling way I guess Yeah, the styling way. That's what I meant. She's like, I'm Cindy Crawford. You know, she's got like that vibe. I'm Cindy Crawford. Hello, I'm Cindy Crawford now. I was 20 last week and I'm Cindy Crawford, goddammit. So anyway, they're talking about Natalie getting some Millie Bobby Brown brother ass, some Charlie Brown ass on her birthday. And it made Shane jealous. and so it couldn't happen that night but he figured he would try it again but then they met up and he thought it was a date but she didn't think it was a date she's like what wait what i thought we were just meeting up before everyone else in the group like why does everybody think

57:48Ben Mandelker: i'm on a date with them what what do you define as a date then she was like like having like an official plan like not on the spot being like hey do you want to meet up in an hour and then jason's like yeah but the painting we did was an official plan and christian's like yeah i think i think what it is is that you're like a flirtatious person so i could see how someone like jason would think that you would have feelings for him yeah and jason's a little sad it's like looking

58:13Ronnie Karam: down he's like where it's like yeah but like that's like the whole time i tried to reiterate that we were just friends you know i tried to let him know like i don't don't read into this okay like come on he's like well she did say that but it didn't feel like that but you said it and after that i guess it's not up to me anymore yeah you should have just like told me you were

58:33Ben Mandelker: developing feelings so I could like not have been so flirty because I thought I was like saying like we're friends we're friends we're friends I'm I'm a girl I'm just a girl from a one-story house like I don't understand these things and then you were okay with that he's like but I don't have to tell

58:47Ronnie Karam: you because I'm telling you with my actions and my actions are my eyebrows and no one's ever ever walked away from these before it's like whatever it was my birthday she's like well I'm sorry I

58:58Ben Mandelker: didn't read your mind. Love you.

59:01Ronnie Karam: Okay, well we've got a new dummy on the scene. This cast was already new, but we figured we needed to add someone else in. Here's Natalie's first image and she's falling on the ground. That was hilarious. Natalie, what's it like to fall on the ground the first second you walk in?

59:17Ben Mandelker: She's like, uh... My name's Angelica, uh, first and foremost.

59:21Ronnie Karam: What was I calling you? Natalie. Oh, sorry. My bad.

59:30Ben Mandelker: so we see angelica and andy's like well it wasn't long before she was planting her nose and chris and jason's business and planting her flag on shane angelica you seem to fall in love

59:43Ronnie Karam: really fast um you know like when i came into the group like i'd just gotten out of a really long year and a half long relationship so like i used to relationship with the guys like i was talking to a psychotic of a distraction.

59:57Ben Mandelker: Okay. Well, the jiu-jitsu date did not go well. And we see footage of that. And Andy's like, was it back pain or the realization that he was dating someone else? That hurt. No, the back pain didn't start hurting until the next day. And then it came back again once I got these gigantic boobs. And I guess it's just a chronic thing I have now. Thanks.

1:00:16Ronnie Karam: Well, Chris seemed convinced you guys were playing it up with the back pain. Um, yeah, that was a little incensed and arrogant. And Jason's like,

1:00:24Ben Mandelker: that was malicious yeah but like jason like like jason did it on purpose which was like 100 % not the case like you made it sound like he tried to like hurt your back you know and jason's like yeah i never slammed angelica i was light with her i was light i was like having fun and she was like laughing and she slammed me on the floor right in front of everyone and any guy knows that he's physically more dominant stronger than a woman's just gonna treat him like a little bit want gently he's like when i look back at it i was like damn i could have been more light but in the moment the laughter and everything i thought it was just fun for me and you were weren't exhibiting any facial expression of pain except for you were kept on gritting your teeth and going ow ow ow ow ow ow ow but i thought that was just you being like flirty why would i want to break

1:01:10Ronnie Karam: your back when i want you on it most of the time that's my question she's like oh well that's not a terrible point so jason when she asked about your last relationship why did you lie and make it sound like you were single he's like um well actually it was like long distance so i was like single locally so like actually it was like in a different continent so i was like single continent continently and like we didn't even speak the same language so like it's it's pretty complicated but let me tell you one thing my girlfriend from another continent sure can't

1:01:42Ben Mandelker: give me directions i basically would just facetime with the granddaughter of risa gorbachev we didn't know what we're saying to each other but she's pretty hot okay well okay well jason are you aware how misleading it might have been for angelica and he's like not necessarily she's like yeah no you did he's like but on the first day of talking at this pool party you can shake your head all you want but it comes down to it i was getting to know you so for me it just felt like unfair yeah but

1:02:15Ronnie Karam: like i was getting to know you too and then like i lied with honesty because honesty goes a long way and if you were doing something with someone else doesn't matter if they're in another country or not jason's like um well then why don't you tell me you were still fucking your ex don't don't don't she goes but wait but i said i lived with my ex and everyone's laughing because she kind of gets caught there and and he's like but you didn't say you were still sleeping together They're like, well, but like, it's still an emotional connection, right? And like Angelica. And Natalie's like, well, Angelica wants to be the one girl that a guy's talking to.

1:02:44Ronnie Karam: And like, you know, I'm not even saying that to offend you, but like, she does.

1:02:49Ben Mandelker: Are we still living with my ex and we share two separate bedrooms? Like, we don't go to bed together at night. But you do sleep together still? I mean, yeah. I mean, that's the safest way. I'm not going to go sleep with a random person on the street. I mean, go down the hallway.

1:03:05Ronnie Karam: I love this. And then Jason's like, but you had intercourse with him, like sex. You said it. She goes, yeah, but like I was sleeping with my ex. I mean, I'm pretty sure that most people go through a breakup and still live with their ex are going to sleep with their ex. But like, it's not like I'm trying to connect with them. It's just like, you know, it's just easier to have sex before you go to work. Like you were forming a connection with the continent person.

1:03:29Ben Mandelker: How do you know that? Because you told me you were on top of me and you're saying it's over, by the way. Now let me kiss you. And then that's how it happened. and that's how it got away from me. And she's like, ah. She's like, this is how it happened. And he's like, no. Let me see. It actually is kind of how it happened.

1:03:45Ronnie Karam: Well, Angelica, you posted a screenshot of a text from Jason where he implied your jiu-jitsu bruises were from rough sex. Have you two slept together? He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. That was just a joke. That was just a joke. I don't even really like rough sex. I prefer sex when somebody is at least 6 ,000 miles away.

1:04:05Ben Mandelker: and is like uh we and andy explains angelica posted this bruise pictures on her stories and then jason was like can you take that down jason's like i was joking that we were rolling around rough like mr mrs smith but then you posted what you posted was rude and out of context quite frankly and if i did that you definitely wouldn't like it just niley's like yeah and there's other things that you posted specifically about us as a group that were hurtful you called us boring and you said that if we get another season it's because of yo and like i'm sorry i think we all know it's because of my number one smash hit passengers yeah but i'm sorry but like that's what other

1:04:42Ronnie Karam: people were like saying to me that you guys were like boring and then it goes um it's a screenshot of a text you sent saying that you were the one saying it just like okay yes okay in all fairness i thought you guys were boring because i asked you guys what was going on and like why is everyone fighting and then no one explained anything to me except Demi but even she said it's too complicated

1:05:02Ben Mandelker: so Angelica came on to this new show and was like oh my god we're just shooting a reality show but you guys are all so boring that's basically what she's saying

1:05:08Ronnie Karam: Audrey goes oh my god Angelica you need to be studied in a lab and then

1:05:14Ben Mandelker: we see footage that Natalie and Angelica did like go to the nail salon and everything and Natalie was like this friend group has never been so divided Kim was saying that she can't stand Demi and now they're like best friends and now she's screaming in my face that I'm a psychotic bitch And Demi's like, oh my god, you're so annoying And the next thing you know, I'm falling down a staircase And it's just like crazy

1:05:33Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so Then we see some unseen footage Okay, so Andy's like Well, I want to address something else Angelica, you got into an Instagram scuffle With Audrey after the jujitsu episode Dragging Audrey for calling you A homie hopper And Angelica's like Well, I was really offended by a homie hopper incident And I saw her call me that but she was the one encouraging me to homie hop in the first place so now how am i a homie hopper

1:06:01Ben Mandelker: and lisa's like andy what is a homie what is that is this something on h2tv gg tvs is this a new kind

1:06:11Ronnie Karam: of gay please tell me so i can plan the correct party darling i think it means just jumping

1:06:19Ben Mandelker: around from guy to guy oh if only i could do that but i've got ken saucy audrey's like well i already said sorry to the guys for telling you to make jason mad by going to shane and i don't think you'd be in his lap right i didn't think you'd be in his lap right away i was literally making a joke hello comedian over here to hold me hop don't hold me walk like sue me sue me okay i wasn't slut shaming you never even once yeah but then when chris called me a whore you just stood there

1:06:46Ronnie Karam: silent and chris is like i didn't call you a whore uh-huh at the abbey and she's like um if i heard that i would have said something she's no you didn't say anything when he called me a bitch um that's a good point that was yeah like because you were being a bitch because you were being a

1:07:01Ben Mandelker: in that moment and you already made made me mad so why would i stand up for you the only thing i stand up for is comedy stand-up comedian over here that's welcome can i ask a question audrey

1:07:12Ronnie Karam: why are you so mad today? You're very upset the whole reunion.

1:07:16Ben Mandelker: Because after the past two episodes have come out, I've been brutalized on social media. I've gotten death threats.

1:07:23Ronnie Karam: You're not the only one. I also got death threats. They were better than yours. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up.

1:07:28Ben Mandelker: No, but my... No, they were saying that, like, we're gonna kill you like you killed that room in the comedy place.

1:07:35Ronnie Karam: Don't talk to me like that. I will because you fucking started it, you stupid bitch. Okay. Audrey, you've been maligned on social media because you were a total asshole on the last two episodes. Sorry. No one made you do that. How are you going to make it Angelica's fault that you treated her like shit and publicly humiliated her on purpose? That's crazy.

1:07:57Ben Mandelker: It's crazy. Keep doing it. Thank you very much.

1:08:00Ronnie Karam: Keep it up.

1:08:01Ben Mandelker: So what a fun little crazy. I mean, amazing. Amazing. This is my kind of reunion is sort of like it just moves along, goes from beat to beat. and it's not drawn out over three episodes. It's as long as it needs to be. Very fun times over here for me. So good first episode of the reunion.

1:08:20Ronnie Karam: All right, everybody. Well, thanks so much for being here. We will talk to you next time.

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