#3246 Southern Charm S11E14: Blood, Sweat, and Heals

0:00What happens? Watch what crap is. Watch what crap is.

0:07Ben Mandelker: Who cares what happens when there's so much that crap is? It's so funny. Watch what crap is. Oh, I mean, don't be so crap. Who cares what happens when there's so much that crap is? Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crap Is, podcast about all that crap on Bravo we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me today is the glorious, perhaps sweaty and healed, Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How are you? Hi. What you doing? I am just sitting here podcasting with you and enjoying the fact that I did not have to endure a sweat lodge last night, although we did watch it on Southern Charm.

0:48Ben Mandelker: Before we get into that, we are still basking in the glory of the creppies. Ronnie just put out a tremendous bonus newsletter that I contributed to this week where we talked. We both did. We both did. It was joint effort. But you actually pressed publish on the document. So I'm going to give you all the credit where we talk about the road that leading up to and through the crappies and what we did. And Ronnie put in some really cool BTS stuff, some videos from rehearsal, some pictures, things like that. So if you want to see how the sausage is made and see how it all came together, what our experience was with all that gloriousness, go check out our newsletter that's over on Patreon, but it's free to everyone.

1:36Ben Mandelker: You don't have to be a Patreon member. It just lives on Patreon. That's where it's home is. So go check it out there. Patreon.com slash watch what crap happens. Thanks to everyone who has been supporting on Patreon and also who's been getting our live feed. just a reminder if you miss the show or you're starting to feel some FOMO you can still actually watch it crappies.kizwe.com or just go to our website watchwhatcrappies.com and you can watch the replay that's going to be available through the end of next week and then it's gone forever so definitely take a look at that thanks to it by the way on a personal note thanks to everyone who joined me last night I was cooking onions for 45 minutes and I decided to flip on the live switch on our Instagram and I was up there and I was chatting and then the campfire joined.

2:23Ben Mandelker: So thanks to everyone who joined for the Instagram live last night. That was fun. And then all the usual great stuff. We got bonus episodes this week. We were doing two bonus episodes. They're both free. The first one already went up. It was Rob Sessonino. Rob has a podcast and the traders. And we talked about the traders and survivor. You should have already seen that in your feed, but if you missed it, it's there. Rob is a joy and he's a wonder. and then we have another interview that we're doing later today but we're not going to say who it is in case it falls through but needless to say it is another member of the traders and I think you guys are going to want to hear this one so keep eyes and ears out for that video on Patreon joy on Patreon love on Patreon patreon.com slash watch what crappens and that is that Ronnie what do you say

3:15Ronnie Karam: nothing Nothing. Well, the computer updated itself, and now I can't move. I can't drag things. Oh, my God. I just figured it out. So during your opening, I figured out how to turn on drag again with three fingers on a trackpad. And now I'm okay. I was about to lose my shit.

3:34Ben Mandelker: Yeah.

3:34Ronnie Karam: But look, I'm aware. This is crap.

3:35Ben Mandelker: We will never lose the ability to drag things.

3:40Ronnie Karam: I know. That's like my biggest. That's the only thing I have in life is dragging stuff. So don't take it away from me, please.

3:46Ben Mandelker: No computer will deprive us of that. So, Southern Charm. We are in Mexico still. And last time, as you may remember, Craig lost his shit in the van and screamed at Sally for really no good reason. I mean, she basically was like, you got bangs. Your bangs are in your eyes. And he's like, shut the fuck up. You're like the fucking worst.

4:09Ronnie Karam: Everyone hates you, man. Right after yelling at Vanita. So he's having a great Great track record there I'm shocked at all the people standing up for Craig Even after last, you know, then I thought Okay, well maybe they'll be different if it's Sally Like maybe, you know Maybe they just don't like Vanita or something But no, they're still like, Craig's amazing

4:30Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's actually kind of shocking So And I just give To that, I just give Charlie's lick

4:42Ronnie Karam: Still my favorite face

4:44Ben Mandelker: I know it's not just that she's frowning it's that she's also sort of like hunched over into her frown it's so amazing it's like definitely like that look needs to be up for a crappy next year if we remember so Craig is like oh so now we're sad at how we get punched back oh and Rodrigo's like stop the shit dude girlfriend and Craig's like you guys can cry all you want we already know the fucking issues and us like sally he does not deserve your tears stop crying don't cry don't give him the tears sally

5:19Ronnie Karam: it's insane she's like he's fucking crazy we had chickens together i'd still marry him i'd still marry him i forgive him he's so thankful he's mad so now it's 12 22 and by the way craig looks i mean craig is the epitome of coke bloat right now he is his face is bloated it's red he looks disgusting and I think a lot of people, another comment I'm seeing a lot, it's like, poor Craig, you know, Paige really, you know, put him into a spiral and now he fell off the wagon. You guys, alcoholism, alcohol does not make you a terrible person, okay? It like lightens up your filters a little bit, or eases your filters or whatever, but it doesn't just turn you into a terrible, Craig is a terrible person.

6:02Ronnie Karam: The alcohol just like takes off the rose-colored glasses for the rest of us. So stop with this. Stop blaming alcohol for everything.

6:10Ben Mandelker: justice for tito's can we also like not blame page for craig falling off the wagon he like voluntarily like took a step he told the wagon to stop and took a few steps off of it and also why do you think page left okay do you do what about this episode makes you think like uh that there was any good reason for page to stay i mean we all know that he treated her like this behind the scenes at some point like she basically alluded to it and then it's like oh it's her fault that he's acting this way. She left because of this behavior. So they arrive at the hotel and Craig storms out and he's like, get me out of this fucking shit.

6:51Ben Mandelker: Wait, what's your problem? Oh, you're the one?

6:54Ronnie Karam: Oh, it's hard for you being on this van? Oh, really?

6:59Ben Mandelker: Yeah, sorry. You're the one who's ruining this van. And Sally's like, you're the one who farted in the van, sir.

7:05Ronnie Karam: You're the one who dealt it. And then you're complaining about being the one that smelled it.

7:10Ben Mandelker: Yeah, you probably smell like dip too, let's be honest. So, where's the hotel? Craig's so drunk he doesn't even realize where the hotel is, even though they stopped at the front of the hotel. At the hotel.

7:23Ronnie Karam: So everyone comes out, and Rodrigo is just like, oh my God, our fucking ride was insane. Yeah, Rodrigo, way to do nothing, as usual. Okay, except gossip and start problems and fucking do nothing when it comes down to it. Nothing. except go whoa move your eyes around like that come on rodrigo yeah whitner and venita are like

7:43Ben Mandelker: what happened and sally's like he went fucking nuts which is funny because i want fucking nuts

7:49Ronnie Karam: austin's nuts charlie's like yeah i mean for no fucking reason too i mean it was like crazy like went crazy guys and sally's like i didn't even say a goddamn thing like yeah she didn't really even say anything this time Whitney's like what what what the fuck happened I mean there were cameras there right right well he goes you're a fucking loser and I don't want to be friends with you you're fucking full of shit and I'm like fuck you fucking asshole I'm killing popcorn after this I'm killing popcorn popcorn's dead melon gets to stay in cantaloupe too but popcorn you're gone popcorn never fit in anyway Whitney's like well I'm sorry to hear that whole

8:30Ben Mandelker: mother she's it was awful and i'm like guess who's riding him off me fuck you craig little fucking bastard and rodrigo's like oh my god girl girlfriend snap so everyone goes to their rooms gay exclamation gay exclamation

8:49Ronnie Karam: well it sucks to have a friend yell you like that like i generally am hurt like wait what where's our key i think i have our key where's our key charlie's like oh my god it should not be this hard just oh my god just let me do it hold on it'll open with my face

9:07Ben Mandelker: door's like she does charlie does have like perfect um like bottle opener face like she like you could turn her face into a little bottle opener and snap the tops off of bottles

9:18Ronnie Karam: um she i mean i know you i know you're making a joke but i live in texas and people really do use their face to open bottles sometimes.

9:26Ben Mandelker: That's true. She also makes the perfect Charlie Brown crying face. She does. Because it's exactly Peanuts. It's like that giant line that's being on his head.

9:37Ronnie Karam: Winnie's strangling Snoopy and Snoopy's like

9:40Ben Mandelker: Yeah. She basically is a Peanuts character. So I was like, guys, let's smoke a drunk cig, please. And Winnie's like, oh, merci beaucoup. what the fuck happened in the fucking ride by the way? Greg's insane. It was just him going off. It was bad. It was bad, bro. Yeah. I don't, I don't know what the fuck is going on with Greg. He goes from Bruce Banner to the incredible Hulk in a millisecond. I'm like, does Bruce Banner also do the same thing? Isn't that the nature of Bruce Banner?

10:13Ronnie Karam: He goes from Bruce Banner to the incredible Hulk in a millisecond. Yeah. I guess he's just saying he's the incredible.

10:19Ben Mandelker: not like bruce banner takes his time not like bruce banner's like you know what i'm getting a little angry oh instantly a little green guys just give it about 10 minutes and i'm probably become a real menace to you all so probably should start getting out of the way yeah he's

10:33Ronnie Karam: just spoiling he's just spoiling the hulk for those of you haven't seen it thanks a lot whitney so um shep is with molly and he's like oh if charlie doesn't see the writing on the wall i I mean, that's on her. I mean, big time. She's like, yeah, literally. I mean, God, there's so many lessons I've learned that people were telling me about, you know, but I had to find out for myself. So did I? Yeah. And, you know, is this going to stick for Charlie? I don't fucking know. She said I brought my tuba. I know. Which she actually says today and I loved.

11:06Ben Mandelker: I know. She said I brought my tuba. During a spiritual ceremony. Like, yes, that's exactly what this ceremony needs. A euphonium. So it's the next morning and Sally and everyone's passed out everyone's asleep people are waking up you know the usual sort of footage of like oh my god they had a hard night and then Shep goes at 10 a.m Shep goes to knock on Craig's door he's like knock knock knock little boy knocking hey Craig it's Shep just answer me real quick do you want to go fishing with us no answer Craig it's Shep blink twice if you hear me of course I can't see you blinking are you blinking I think he's blinking he's alive okay I'll see you later

11:45Ronnie Karam: so then he goes over to Shep's room and um no Austin's room sorry he's like oh it's good to wake you up like this I'm jumping on you oh it's been so long since we've woken up in bed together oh gosh Craig won't answer his door he must hate himself right now Austin's like uh does he though probably yeah when have you ever seen Craig hate himself he's never taken responsibility for anything.

12:10Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I'm sorry. That requires some sort of self-awareness and we're still waiting for that ship to arrive in the port. So Shep is like, gosh, I know what he's going through. Boy, do I know what he's going through. I just want to be kind to Craig because I've been there before and you need more support than you ever know.

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15:01Ronnie Karam: And cats, abusive assholes just need hugs, really. Yeah, but I don't want him to feel like a pariah. I want him to be relaxed. Whoa, I think that Shep is focusing on the wrong people to feel bad for. I mean, Craig is insane right now. You know, I feel bad for Sally. I mean, Craig does not have a conscience, So I just don't see Craig feeling bad.

15:20Ben Mandelker: I have a hot take. I think Craig should feel like a pariah. I think that's like literally what should happen. And I don't think he should relax. I think he should feel like an outcast as the consequence of his actions. And like for real, like if you do that to someone, you should feel like you've done something bad. You've broken a social pact with your group and that there are like repercussions to it. Not like he's probably feels so bad. He just needs to be supported. Poor Crank. Like I understand it's like a little, it's a little nuanced because when it comes to substance abuse, you want to support people in getting the help that they need, yada, yada, yada.

16:05Ben Mandelker: Well, I'm not allowed to get help,

16:06Ronnie Karam: but he's still a jackass. You still get thrown in jail for a DUI. They don't hug you on the way out. You know what I mean? You're not like, oh my God, you have a substance abuse issue. Give me a hug. Give me a hug. It's okay. Go. No, you get consequences for your fucking actions. Fucking Craig. Craig, you'll get the,

16:22Ben Mandelker: you'll get the hug after you do your work first, which is apologizing and show some contrition for how you behaved. And then you'll get the support, but you don't, you don't get the support before the victim gets the support. Ma 'am, Craig, ma 'am. So Austin is, I know.

16:40Ronnie Karam: I hope he has to go to court and the, the jury is Sally and Vanita.

16:47Ben Mandelker: Sally would be an annoying juror. Sally would just be waving at all the lawyers. Hi, lawyer. Looks like you got an advanced degree. I'm a doctor.

17:00Ben Mandelker: She would be one of them. She basically would be like in the porno. It's like the juror. It's like, you can't help but watching. You got a firm case.

17:09Ronnie Karam: what kind of children would a lawyer and a robot surgeon make

17:18Ben Mandelker: the chef is like gosh i just want him to go fishing with me well what did he say when you asked him well i knocked and he didn't answer because that would be you know a nice little rasp it from him just to like get away from this very stressful trip to beautiful port of where the weather is beautiful and we're doing nothing but swimming and enjoying alcohol. He needs a break.

17:43Ronnie Karam: It's just been so stressful for him with all the nothing he's had to do. You know, it's just me and Witten are at the moment. You want to come with us, Austin? He's like, uh, Shep, as much as fishing sounds amazing, I'm going to pass. I'm going to pass.

17:59Ben Mandelker: Gosh, all right. Or as they say in Cuba, already-o. oh so then sadly in cuba gorsho wow gorshocito don't you want to come on a boat and watch other

18:13Ronnie Karam: people bait my fish for me and then cast a line for me and then just watch me take it out of the water to take a selfie on instagram with it seriously i love that austin called that so well the last time when shep didn't know how to bait and he's like or i guess whitner whoever it was was like yeah yeah i think shep just goes on rich people trips where he doesn't actually do anything except stand there and take pictures with the fish because that's exactly what he does today.

18:37Ben Mandelker: That's what he did. He was like running around like he was on a game show going to each rod and be like So Sally is talking to Madison. How's the baby? Baby's good. Good. Oh my good. Gosh that baby's so cute. How's Hudson? Hey Hudson's a little nervous. I'm already turning into a beta because he's like she's just so little and he's like I'm scared. I'm like, how are you scared of the baby? God damn it, you're supposed to be an alpha, Hudson. Why aren't you an alpha? God, this is why you have to get another child because you need to see who's the alpha and who's the beta. So we're learning things.

19:12Ronnie Karam: You guys still in Mexico? It's like, yeah, I miss you so much. I mean, so much has been going on. Well, I'll start with, I made out with Austin. Oh, shut up. When? Well, like every night it's been here. Oh!

19:27Ben Mandelker: Well, I knew that's what you wanted. Yeah, it is. well it sounds like you're off to a great trip yeah it's been really fun but craig was crazy last night i don't know what set him off but he started screaming at me like what is wrong with him yeah well he's just not born for corn he's really good at like making you believe that he's not that way and then in a split second it can turn which is why we always accept him back into

19:48Ronnie Karam: the friend group yeah and sally's scared of craig she's like no one holds him accountable because He's fucking scary. You know, having soccer like that, that boy's a mess. That's not good. And what are y 'all doing today? Y 'all have plans? She's like, well, we're, you know, there's a retreat in the mountains, something called the sweat lodge. She's like, oh, Jesus. God, it's a good year to be pregnant. Fuck that.

20:14Ben Mandelker: Let me know if Craig starts foaming at the mouth and his eyes turn red. She's like, okay. I mean, before the sweat lodge, that could happen. Okay.

20:24Ronnie Karam: He already is foaming at the mouth. His eyes already are red. So Charlie comes outside and they talk. And Sally asks if she's talked to Craig. And she's like, not at all. Because I don't want to deal with that. I mean, you know, it's crazy. I mean, if you could apologize. I mean, that's what needs to happen. And of course, Charlie's like, you know, I mean, I hope that Craig apologizes to all of us in the band. I mean, you didn't have a problem with him yelling at Vanita. and you're not even going too hard for Sally. You're like, I deserve an apology. Yeah. I love that Charlie's like, you know who deserves an apology in all of this?

20:59Ronnie Karam: Me. Well, I'll say to you, first they came for the vanilla and I said nothing. And then they came for the Sally and I said nothing. And then they came for me and I ate chips and guacamole. Still said nothing, really. I don't know where they're saying it's supposed to go, but it's not really where they have to say.

21:18Ben Mandelker: Then they came for the local artist in Charleston who hangs in his wall on his wall and I said thank you for buying that so I can hang that for you I'm really good with nails hey so what are you doing you want to come to yoga and so I was like no go find your inner peace I'm going to go find Austin tell the girls I say hey

21:44Ronnie Karam: so then Molly Vanita and Charlie are going to yoga but Charlie's late she gets there for like the calm down part, which is the best part. Well, actually it's the worst part because this lady does sit down calming where you have to sit really straight with your hands in prayer motion. I hate sitting down like that is literally the hardest thing. I can't do it.

22:06Ben Mandelker: I agree.

22:08Ronnie Karam: I need to lay down. I like the lay down where they're like, lay down. Just think about nothing.

22:12Ben Mandelker: That's, I love that part of yoga. That's the best. That's killer. And then you get to do the corpse pose, you know, cause like if you were like i remember like as a kid like when you go to sleep over and you like sleep on someone's floor because there's like obviously not enough space for online beds and it's like it hurts so much to sleep on the floor but with yoga by the time you get to the part where you're on corpse pose it just feels so good i'm like i could sleep for hours i know that's that would

22:36Ronnie Karam: be if i wrote the commerce if i wrote the comma cetera if it was like comma cetera by ronnie it would just be 100 pages of the corpse pose and i like in different places you know like maybe be like a wiener here wiener there but it would just always be one figure in the corpse pose

22:53Ben Mandelker: it's the best yeah corpse poses and wieners you know what i really like is that there's that one pose where if you say you take like the two blocks and you put like one block like tall behind your head and you put one block sort of like sort of second tier on like under your back so you're sort of like you're hoisted up a little bit on the blocks but if you put them in the right position it's so comfortable like that is a dream that position a real dream yeah so think about that everyone by the way uh to all those people just contemplate i was wondering where i was wondering

23:28Ronnie Karam: where that was going no it was just going to relax i just wanted to reflect this episode about healing um just for everyone um doing the corpse pose right now wondering god i hope ronnie's drag and drop is working it's not still apple take care of this i'm serious why is your drag

23:46Ben Mandelker: and drop not working i'm sorry wait because the computer automatically updated itself and that

23:51Ronnie Karam: feature stopped working and then i went into the settings where it told me from the google a to go on there and it still is not working so i have never wait why would they disable drag and drop i don't think they disabled it i think it just doesn't it's not working right it's enabled in my settings. I saw it. I re-enabled. It was disabled and I re-enabled it and it's still not doing it. Should we stop this podcast and I'll restart my computer?

24:16Ben Mandelker: Sounds like you're dragging and you're about to drop Apple.

24:20Ronnie Karam: It's important, you guys. Do you know how many times I drag and drop my window between while we're recapping? That's what I do. That's like my nervous energy. I just drag a window to the right and then I drag it back to the left and then I drag it back to the Right. They make it bigger. They make it smaller. Come on, man.

24:37Ben Mandelker: You are talking like a Bravo star in the sense of like when a Bravo star like gets upset about something, they make they're like they announce that that thing is their thing. Like dragging and dropping like that's like my thing. Everyone knows I love to drag and drop on my computer. Like that's like my signature thing. And they're taking that away from me.

24:52Ronnie Karam: Yeah. They're ruining my fucking life.

24:53Ben Mandelker: I'm dragging and dropping right now because you made me realize that this experience is fleeting and could be taken away from me at any moment. So I'm doing some unnecessary dragging and dropping of my window at the moment.

25:04Ronnie Karam: Wait, but are you three-fingered doing it on your trackpad? That's what I'm talking about.

25:08Ben Mandelker: Oh, I'm using a proper mouse. No, my search for the old days.

25:14Ronnie Karam: You have to have the trackpad thingy, the external trackpad, and then you can use it like a trackpad and you drag it off with the three fingers.

25:22Ben Mandelker: That makes a hugely more sense. I was like, what are you talking about? You can't drag and drop. but it's with gestures and your finger three finger drag and drop

25:31Ronnie Karam: I need to do it three finger drag and drop

25:33Ben Mandelker: do you have two in the track pad and one in the stink that's how you guys use your three fingers

25:41Ronnie Karam: can I complain about something else because this episode really has nothing going on I ordered a couple of shirts from T-Moon okay one was supposed to be a Chateau Marmont t-shirt which was really cute and the other was supposed to say salty and be like salt you know the salt thing I like that meme So I got those. They were like$3 or whatever because it's Timo. One says, I drink bush and I, wait, it says something like, I drink bush all day and all night I bang, well, it would be bush, right? I bang butts or something. I'm like, what? What is this shirt?

26:17Ben Mandelker: Wait.

26:18Ronnie Karam: It's not even close.

26:20Ben Mandelker: There's like nothing in your order that has anything to do with bush or banging. that's wild where did that even come from that's wild that's that's a hilarious that's a hilarious uh a drink bush and a bang butts it's like what the fuck is this shirt my god right from chateau marmont whatever yeah why were you getting a chateau marmont shirt

26:46Ronnie Karam: just look cool it was in my suggested things it was three dollars and i was like that's cute um okay so yeah because it was the logo from i don't know whatever okay so um they're they're doing yoga so she shows up at the end of yoga and sally's like uh sally leaves okay so now they're talking so molly's like um yeah after last night's festivities like i needed yoga i mean this is fuckery and charlie's like yeah this was nice this was great you know that last pose that i was here for that was that was really fun and vinita's like yeah it was nice i mean craig should have been at this yoga, right?

27:20Ronnie Karam: I mean, not with us, but by himself, maybe. Molly's like, yeah, no, I don't need my vibe fucked. So thanks.

27:27Ben Mandelker: I mean, it does suck though, because I feel like in the past, whenever I have seen him like overreact or when him and Austin got into it, different things like that and such and whatnot and who not, it's been about something. But seriously, last night, it was about nothing. And it was like, I am not interested in this. So Molly's like, um, so is this the straw that broke the camel's back? And, you know, Charlie was like, the camel's broken. No. Doing her frown face. No, the camel, not the camel.

28:02Ronnie Karam: I like Charlie okay overall. I do like her. I take issue with this, what she just said. You know, whenever, whenever, because she's talking to Vanita and she's like, well, you know, whenever I've seen Craig going off in the past, at least he's had a reason that's not cool because you're talking to the other woman that he just screamed at and yes vanita was like kind of poking at him through austin but nobody deserves that shit and i don't like that i don't and also if you want to get to it there you sally was kind of poking at him through you because you were going to craig being like oh craig you know sal i just have to be careful around sally because you get so upset which was pissing craig off so if we're going to excuse everything craig does because he's being you know given a reason to then you gave him reason to too.

28:46Ronnie Karam: I mean, if you want to look at it that way, which is a terrible way to look at it, no one gave anybody reason to act like that. Craig is just an asshole. So stop excusing it until it happens to you, Charles.

28:58Ben Mandelker: Charlie, you've been dragged and dropped.

29:02Ronnie Karam: I did that with three fingers. Take my advice out. Like, you listen here, Charlie. I've had it.

29:16Ben Mandelker: Need to get a stinger for that I need to find the stinger as soon as possible For the next time I say drag and drop The only stinger I have loaded up is this one from Heather Dubrow It just doesn't work the same Nope

29:32Ronnie Karam: So then we go over to Austin and Sally They're at the swim bar Where else would they be? And they're talking about Madison And he's like well I only knew that you'd talk to her because she texted me and called me a little slut. So. It's pretty funny.

29:50Ben Mandelker: Yeah, this is super funny. So Sally's like, you are a little slut. I'm not a little slut. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Aren't I? But no, she's doing really well. She wanted to know everything. I was like, Madison, we needed you here. Except for right here between my vagina and your penis. Oh, Austin.

30:15Ronnie Karam: so then rodrigo joins and he's like guys um hey girlfriends fill me in on the tea um i slept until

30:23Ben Mandelker: noon and so i was like rodrigo we're on a date get yourself lost like this is a date girlfriend i'm kidding and then and then a visual that i'm surprised we haven't had on this show already but in some ways we really have an iguana just goes swimming right through the pool the iguana just goes across it that was so funny it was like i'm just taking my morning like it knew how to get out

30:51Ronnie Karam: and everything it jumped into the deep end just took like a his little head was above the water he's like it was doing the breaststroke you know when you go to the pool and there's always like a

31:00Ben Mandelker: lady doing the breaststroke in there sort of like and her head's above the water because she doesn't want to get her hair it's like you know that's what he that's what the iguana reminded me of like, excuse me, I'm just doing my breaststroke. This is how I stay young.

31:11Ronnie Karam: Yeah, made it all the way to the end and just gracefully walked up the steps and was like, ugh.

31:16Ben Mandelker: Alright, have a good day, everybody. The tourists are about to arrive. That iguana was the Sally of iguanas. It was like, you,

31:26Ben Mandelker: look at me. You're bathing diva.

31:30Ronnie Karam: So Sally asks if anyone's talked to Craig. He's like, no, I don't think anyone else. He was in his room and he locked the door. Well, you didn't like peeking to make sure he was good. Oh, he locked the door. Okay, I guess you can't do it. You didn't go around to the window. You know what I do sometimes when people lock their door. I'll go through the air conditioner ducts. All you have to do is two little screws. Just crawl right in there, go right. Sound like a stalker.

32:00Ronnie Karam: When that side of Craig comes out, I don't want to be anywhere near. I mean, that was the most insane thing I've ever seen. thank god popcorn wasn't here i honestly don't even think i don't want to put words in charlie's mouth but she was disgusted she was disgusted i don't want to put words in charlie's mouth but

32:17Ben Mandelker: it does open quite a bit it's very easy to put things in there i have found but i'm gonna i'm gonna refrain i'll refrain so he's caught already every bug in mexico in that mouth poor thing

32:28Ronnie Karam: should not have room for more words.

32:32Ben Mandelker: Well, you say something to him and he refuses to hear it. Well, maybe he'll be open to hearing after the healing retreat. Sure. Yep. Sure. That's Craig's known for that.

32:43Ronnie Karam: Is it a lobotomy? I'm like, what is this? I love that everyone acts like they're going to meditate for one day and everything's going to be fine. It's going to take more than that. So now Wittner is on the fishing boat with Shep and they're talking about Craig. and Wittner's like, yeah, I mean, I tried to talk to him because Sally left the other van like shell-shocked and Charlie had never seen anything like that. So I was like, man, are you okay? And he was like, oh, he couldn't even walk. He couldn't even walk. He was like, Shep at BravoCon. Wait, that's me.

33:15Ben Mandelker: He was like an iguana taking a swim. Couldn't even walk. So Wittner's like, yeah, I mean, just like a storm pending, like in his eye, you know, and I know that look because my mom is an anarchist. So Shep is like, gosh, well, I think he just got a head of steam yesterday, a big head of steam. I'm like, he had a head of alcohol and who knows what else. It wasn't just steam, I'll tell you that much. He's like, I just don't think it's time to pile on. Look, when I got kicked out of boarding school, my mom came up and packed up my shit in the middle of senior year and she was like, I'm not even going to say anything because I know how bad you feel.

33:55Ben Mandelker: No one's as hard as you are on yourself, or at least that's how it should be. And look how you turned out, Shep.

34:02Ronnie Karam: I know, yeah, your mom, I don't know that anyone would credit your parents with doing a great job, honestly. I don't know that anybody's sending your mom cards like, wow, you know what? You've done a great job with Shep. He is just thriving out there. Also, I'm sure his mom was in the car. Look, anyone putting themselves in the mom's shoes, knows how that mom was thinking she was like oh my god i totally understand how the boarding school feels because i'm the one who sent him there in the first place to get out of my house now where

34:31Ben Mandelker: are we gonna send this fucker yeah also the whole like when i got kicked out of boarding school it's such a funny way to start it like gosh you know we all make mistakes you know when you yell at a girl or you get kicked out of your boarding school kicked out of your school is not nothing i'd like to add. Oh, it's just that thing. I know you feel bad. I'm not going to say anything because I know you feel bad. I don't think he feels bad that he got kicked out of boarding school. I'm just going to say that right now.

35:03Ronnie Karam: And of course, he's a man on Bravo. So guess what his remedy for everything is? More drugs. You know, if someone has a drug and alcohol problem, what would really help them is going on a drug retreat. So let's try some ayahuasca. Ayahuasca really helped me a lot. I've seen no preview of that.

35:24Ben Mandelker: Can you believe I was kicked out of boarding school just for trying to lead an ayahuasca retreat in the middle of history class?

35:32Ronnie Karam: So then Craig meets up with Whitney and Whitney's like, well, thanks for making me shoot a scene. I'm really not supposed to have to do that. I'm here in a black jean jacket for a summer lunch. Okay, what happened last night? And he's like, I'm okay. Did you? that? Are we going to have some nice lunch? I got your favorite, Coke. Where is it? It's a Diet Coke. God damn it.

35:59Ben Mandelker: Craig's trying to snort the soda. Are you trying to drown me? Do we have a server? Can I yell at her? I ordered you a bunch of little stanky poos. How'd you sleep? Fine. I slept. Yesterday was a long one. Was that maybe one of the underlying reasons why you got a bit... agitated last night Frank's like I mean I'm perfectly imperfect I was like shut up what

36:28Ronnie Karam: what hogwash is that who told you that perfectly imperfect

36:32Ben Mandelker: was your chat GPT therapist giving you some advice again please can you not lead with like a coy expression from a coffee mug at Marshall's come on

36:44Ronnie Karam: at the end of the day you get coke heads for coke beans and And, you know, after like drinking for 12 hours, you know, probably maybe I shouldn't do that anymore. Like, I don't like freaking out and getting agitated like I did last night. Like, I hate that about me. And, you know, it's a good reminder that there's always things to improve on.

37:04Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I mean, of course, you have to actually improve to improve. But it's a good reminder that there's a potential for improvement, even though you will not be taking any steps in that direction. But like, thanks for the reminder.

37:18Ronnie Karam: Yeah, he's like, maybe I didn't have to react like that. But, like, I mean, I fucked up once in two years. Craig, that's like your fourth or fifth time this season, now that I count through my head. It's your second time on this trip. What are you talking about?

37:32Ben Mandelker: Fully unrepentant. So Whitney's like, look, we all do stupid shit. Okay, look at my mustache. So maybe you should apologize. He's like, to who? I hate this guy. Maybe a salary. and she's like seems like no matter what happens you can always count on sally to be like right there i'm like oh so this was sally's fault everyone he still believes it no matter what

38:00Ronnie Karam: happens when you're yelling at people it's sally's fault okay like it's so crazy like whenever i'm screaming at someone there's sally and there's you screaming that's the problem you dipshit so um Whitney's like uh what do you mean Craig and he's like um like I genuinely believe that if she wasn't involved that me and Charlie would probably be further along um no I think you'd be

38:27Ben Mandelker: first of all there's no set timeline on any of it and second of all uh you would be further along if you didn't yell at Sally in front of the girl you were trying to woo yeah exactly so Whitney's

38:39Ronnie Karam: like oh got it you know i would give you advice but being a good person would make you terrible on this show so i'm just gonna sit here and enable you for a little while uh just say i shot a scene with him uh just shut everybody up okay and craig's like i don't know what what ben

38:55Ben Mandelker: uh no i was just gonna say uh mother oh keep going running yeah i don't know what the answer

39:01Ronnie Karam: is when he's like well as they say pride goeth before the fall so well yeah because pride's in like summer and then fall is in like the fall. Duh. Like, what are you trying

39:17Ben Mandelker: to tell me? I like that he says

39:21Ronnie Karam: he gives this quote to Craig and then Craig does not get it at all. He's like, yeah. Anyway, Shep told me.

39:28Ben Mandelker: Doesn't know what that means.

39:30Ronnie Karam: No idea.

39:32Ben Mandelker: No idea. It's like, Brad goes before the fall. Sure. commercials here comes one right now so then uh craig returns to the other bros and the guys they're done from their fishing we did see a little bit of their fishing as you mentioned which was as you also mentioned that the fish would they were just on a boat the fish would get on the lines and then shep would run over to the line they pull up and these little shiny fish we're like what is happening who is this boozy smelling man holding me i can't breathe and there's this person who has strange teeth and looks way too old for who he for what for what his age is and he's holding me what is my life i know that i might be eaten today but do

40:20Ronnie Karam: i have to be eaten by someone that's gonna eat me with their mouth open i mean come on give me some respect.

40:27Ben Mandelker: This is also the only show ever on Bravo where they are not humane to the fish because normally when they go fishing on Bravo they're like, okay, well since we're on TV we'll throw the fish back. But Shep just throws it in the cooler. It's like, oh, nope. That fish is going to be eaten. Yeah, he didn't even bang him on the head first.

40:42Ronnie Karam: He was just like, suffocate. Bye.

40:45Ben Mandelker: He was like, boop. You will be eaten. Nope.

40:49Ronnie Karam: Well, they did do it last time they showed Shep fishing. they took it off the hook but they're like jerking the hook out of the mouth i'm like how many busted ass fish have gone back into the water after ship has been there it's like the reverse bravo you know they come back with busted lips instead of bigger lips it's like what happened to you you

41:05Ben Mandelker: got bravo your face is fucked such a shiny fish and then later i think really right now uh craig's like how is fishing and ship's like gosh we thought we caught three fish it's called a skip jack they were tiny skip jack isn't that when you decide not to masturbate for the day yeah and so winner's like he's like what have you been up to today and he's like uh just went to lunch with whitney oh really what did whitney have to say well let's just put it this way we're

41:35Ronnie Karam: not doing a skip jack oh damn it whitney got you too huh yeah gotta keep my job well we talked about all the healing we're going to do today. Winner's like, uh-huh. Well, that's not how you approach healing, okay? Got to be more serious about it. It's healing.

41:56Ben Mandelker: So now the girls are getting ready for their healing. It's kind of funny because they're making themselves look all nice knowing that they're about to sweat their faces off. And the girls get together, and then Vanita, like, Craig is like, hey, Charlie, are you excited? And she's like, totally. but then she gets into a different van because she's unhappy with Craig

42:16Ronnie Karam: so I was like I'm not going in his van I'm going to PTSD that's the only kind of D I don't like so Austin's like hey you sure you don't want to go in that one Charlie's like no no god please so now they go into the vans and head towards the healing session and Whitney is like I went to this weird super progressive private school in Washington in D.C. Kindergarten through K. I mean, yeah, K-12, sorry. And I was taught by hippies, so I fucking hate the Grateful Dead. Fucking hippies. So I turned to punk rock instead. Stupid hippies.

42:52Ben Mandelker: Fucking progressive bullshit school. Nothing says punk rock like an angry private schooler.

43:00Ronnie Karam: So, I found punk when I got mad at the people at private school.

43:05Ben Mandelker: K-12. I found punk rock when I wasn't invited to the ambassador's son's birthday party. Rah!

43:17Ronnie Karam: So we get a spiritual leader named Vickitoria. Ruben is their mezcal guide. Okay. A mezcal guide? What kind of healing is this? It's delicious. Is my family running this healing? I love this. It's like, all right, everybody, we're going to heal. This is the hottie who's going to be leading your healing. Let's get shit-faced.

43:37Ben Mandelker: Okay. so Shep tells us they start doing this thing where you stand there and you hold your arms out and they take like a incense or something and sort of like guide it all around your armpits and stuff and Shep is like before I did ayahuasca they did two days of the stuff just so I get you in the mood I feel like normally it's like a 10 minute process but with Shep they're like we're going to really need to spend some time with this one there's a lot of toxins we got to clear out they were saging you Shep

44:04Ronnie Karam: they wouldn't let you into the retreat until they'd saged two years of shit out of you. So Victoria is, this isn't the thing with the bulls, right? That's later. That's later. I love that lady. Because that lady talks like this. She's like, welcome everybody. Welcome to our spirit with the bulls. Yeah. I loved her. Every final word, every last word in the sentence, she's like, and now breathe deep.

44:33Ben Mandelker: She definitely kind of had camp counselor vibes. spiritualism but this was her too it was the same person she was like leading things so she led like this part and then she did she led the massages then she came back for the sound the sound okay

44:46Ronnie Karam: so it is so okay today we're going to have a beautiful day for manifesting what we want in our life mainly opening the heart she's so sexy about it she was Oh, Victoria.

45:02Ben Mandelker: Hello, everyone. So then Victoria's like, well, I think we're all cleansed and blessed. And we have hibiscus tea here and a little hut. And also, if you want to grab some water, please do. Because whenever you're done, we can take a seat. We'll start the beautiful sweat lodge ceremony, which is called Tamazcal. You know that like they probably just all heard Tecate. And they're like, yes, sweet beer. So then this guy, Ruben, comes out. He's got long, flowy hair. And he's very hippie. And he talks about it's going to clean the body and the mind and their spirit.

45:42Ronnie Karam: Just start with the guys and give them all a bath. This is some charm. These guys need a bath. Everybody would feel better with the shower.

45:50Ben Mandelker: You know those commercials where they show how Don gets rid of oil on birds' feathers from oil spills? We need just to do that with these men, spiritually and also physically. Let's just, let's do some oil spill treatment on them. And so, uh, the sweat lodge is going to be an hour and 15 minutes, which is cray cray. When she said that, I was like, Oh, I'm not doing it. I also had flashbacks to, uh, Gina Christian Heider going into a sweat lodge in Orange County a few years ago. And like, I'm going to die. Yeah. She got all traumatized. Yeah.

46:19Ronnie Karam: She was like sobbing and dying.

46:22Ben Mandelker: Oh, that was great.

46:23Ronnie Karam: I can't even make it 10 minutes in a sauna. So I don't know if these people are doing it.

46:27Ben Mandelker: yeah I was impressed I felt like it must have actually felt amazing when you come out of it you probably felt like so light and amazing and after you take your shower probably was wonderful but good god an hour and 15 minutes and also there's stories of people who die in these things

46:44Ronnie Karam: like I would be one of those I would die I have to I have high blood pressure I can't go in there

46:49Ben Mandelker: no yeah like I feel like um there was a story back a few years ago oh I guess it's 2009 when there was a deadly sweat lodge ceremony in Sedona, Arizona, led by a self-help author. And several people died. Oh, because they did an hours-long sweat lodge. Well, that's stupid. Hours long? That's crazy.

47:11Ronnie Karam: How many hours? Well, this one's an hour and 15 minutes. I mean, what are you going to call them stupid when they all die in here? Let's see.

47:19Ben Mandelker: Let's test it. I don't know how long it was. I mean, look. But that's scary. That's too scary for me.

47:27Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So, Craig, they go in there, and Craig's like, I can already feel the heat. And Ruben's like, this is a place where we bond as a family. Okay, bro, you don't have to talk like that, too, okay? It's only sexy when Victoria does it. He's like, well, it's good that we're bonding because we all hate each other in here. So, guys, it's a sacred space, and when we're going in the Temazgal, we're going in the Mother of Earth womb. Gross.

47:57Ben Mandelker: I always wanted a baby now I get to be the baby I'm not paying you to crawl into a womb

48:05Ronnie Karam: I don't care whose it is

48:07Ben Mandelker: yeah I think wombs I feel like have a one way path okay so Mother Earth's like

48:14Ronnie Karam: get out of my womb I've already birthed you exit only

48:21Ben Mandelker: mother earth is like this is not my womb this is my armpit you guys are crawling into my armpit right now um so they go into this they go in and they start they have like a gopro in there it's actually like a pretty it's crazy i think i think they did the exact same setup with orange county they've sort of stuck a gopro on the wall they're like we're not gonna make our cameraman go to the sweat lodge so you just sort of see them sitting there in the dark and they're all just they're just going through it it's going and it's going and going and finally after like about 30 minutes, Craig's like, that's enough for me.

48:54Ben Mandelker: That's good enough for me. I'm going to go now. What do you recommend I do now? And then Ruben, the guy's like, well, at this point, this is a place where we face our own fears. And many moments of our life, there are moments where you can't get out. So really, you're battling with yourself right now. Craig's like, yeah, I'm going to go. I'm going to succumb to the battle. It's like, no, thank you.

49:20Ronnie Karam: I get claustrophobic. I'm not great in saunas. So, bye. And Ruben's like, try to chant with me, everybody else. And so I was like, oh, burst my throat. I need this. So then Vanita.

49:33Ben Mandelker: You, who, you, who, you, who. I thought we were chanting.

49:38Ronnie Karam: I thought it was funny how they all come out. When they come out, they're all just quiet. Because, I mean, it was a lot, you know. And they're all quiet. And then they start talking. And they're like, oh, my God. That was the most beautiful thing I've ever experienced. Oh, my God. that like changed my life. It was like, oh my God, my spirit has never felt so good. And Sally's like, my throat burns. How hot was Austin?

50:00Ben Mandelker: The whole thing goes over Sally's head. I know. She's just like, she's basically like, wow, I had a sweaty moment with Austin. I think we're really getting close. No. So now they shower. The other people are getting massages. We didn't talk about that, but they all get massages. And we get a nice peek at Whitney's very very pale body and then he really does not go into the sun it's true I can't shame a pale body I'm not shaming I'm just saying I'm remarking I'm remarking you know what I'm doing I'm dragging and I'm dropping I'm dragging and dropping on that pale body

50:38Ronnie Karam: unfortunately it's not working do I need a fourth finger drag and drop

50:47Ben Mandelker: so yeah I got rid of that fucking hippies punk rock got some middle school punk rock so now it's afterwards they take their shower and Sally's asking if Charlie's okay and Charlie's like yeah I just I don't I don't give a fuck about anything at all and Sally's like I do too I feel like I'm just cleansed of everything like my brain is empty and Charlie's like empty yeah empty i'm like listen i hate to break it to you guys you probably didn't need a sweat lodge

51:22Ronnie Karam: for any of us to tell you that i know when she said my brain is empty i just said we know

51:31Ronnie Karam: also i'm thinking about austin in the shower you reverse you who

51:39Ronnie Karam: she runs to austin he's in the shower and he's like oh i was thinking about a lot of things And meanwhile, Craig, by the way, is sneaking around so he can listen. He's acting like he's drinking water, but he's like sneaking all over to see who's talking about him. He's all paranoid. And Austin's like, I was thinking about a lot of things. My attention was not like to second guess my decision making. That's where I learned. Because my decision making has been really, really good. I'm cat dad. I'm cat dad.

52:05Ben Mandelker: Wittner's like, decisiveness. You know what's funny about having to talk to Craig about y 'all? That's what he wants for you. And I was like, really? well I want him to go to anger management but we don't know his get what we want

52:18Ronnie Karam: and you see Greg hear him and he just kind of walks away like I'm gonna get Austin back so now it's the next part of the ceremony and now the thunderstorm is brewing and Victoria's like remember be mindful that once we enter we're entering into a sacred circle right so she gives a speech and like everybody get comfortable let's sit in a circle we're gonna create a safe space some guy.

52:45Ben Mandelker: It was actually like a wonderfully shot scene. Like the colors were beautiful. You could feel the warmth and the humidity in the air. It felt very like you could feel the warmth.

52:54Ronnie Karam: You could feel the humidity.

52:57Ben Mandelker: It was very woo-woo, but in a way that I was like, I kind of want to do it. Like, I'm not going to lie. It looked sort of like a fun thing. And I was surprised that they all had buy-in because this crew here, I mean, you never know with the Southern Charm people. So she has this whole Full speech. What'd you say? What is buy-in? They all have buy-in. Meaning that they all bought into this idea. Like no one was like, this is stupid. This is silly. Why are we doing this? Sitting around in a circle. Like there was no jacks there. Like they all were like, okay, we're going to do this. We're going to like have a sound bath and feel something.

53:32Ben Mandelker: I thought that was kind of cool. I'm not even a woo-woo person like that, but I just thought it was cool that they were into it.

53:39Ronnie Karam: So they all sit around in a big circle and there's a storm brewing. There's like thunder clapping. And Austin's like, we have offended the gods. The thunder's like, close your mouth when you eat.

53:55Boom.

53:57Ben Mandelker: Placements are not napkins. It was funny because the lightning starts to happen. And in my mind, I'm like, should we move this inside? Because, you know, rain is one thing, but lightning that could be that could be dangerous guys but they don't and i was like why aren't you guys moving in and then finally moved it in and i just love the musician because the musician there's a guy on the side and he's got like a little microphone and everything and you could tell he's like um i've got electronics we have to go inside he just like runs inside i

54:27Ronnie Karam: don't know yeah the guitar guy was like i'm fucking out of here see ya the spiritual dj was like oh no getting this pioneer the computer scientist was like i'm packing up my three

54:38Ben Mandelker: Your computer's enrolling them inside.

54:40Ronnie Karam: Sandra Bullock's like, how am I supposed to type so quickly if my computer's covered in water? I'm out of here.

54:47Ben Mandelker: Doc from Back to the Future is like just trying to connect two wires. Like, damn it. So they go inside and Victoria's like, okay, welcome to your new circle, guys.

55:01Ronnie Karam: Like, Victoria, how am I supposed to trust you if you just left me out in a thunderstorm? You didn't take me in until it had already been raining. It was warning you, Victoria.

55:10Ben Mandelker: We call this circle the circle of bad indoor lighting. Harsh lighting, everyone. White, white bulbs. Yeah. Please close your eyes. Only so that way you don't have to see all the terrible shadows cast on our skin.

55:27Ronnie Karam: And guys, now I'm going to share cacao with you. Molly's like, oh my God, I should have brought my tuba. Cacao. I didn't know cacao was so spiritual. I looked it up. Sure enough, it is. Maybe I should switch over to cacao instead of cocoa. Oh. What do you think? What if I come on here? I'm a spiritual. Will you still like me?

55:48Ben Mandelker: If you come back as a cacao man instead of a cocoa man.

55:51Ronnie Karam: Yeah.

55:52Ben Mandelker: What if I came on here?

55:53Ronnie Karam: I'm like, guys, I shouldn't make fun of people. We're all one, really, at the end of the day. Like, I'm basically Craig. Like, we're one person. I really understand him.

56:04Ben Mandelker: Yeah, cacao is powerful. so they are they start doing an exercise we have to close their eyes and like walk around the room without like they're just supposed to walk around and like feel people's energies and then ultimately find someone and hold hands and wouldn't you know it Vanita and Craig wind up holding hands and Vanita's like um this is weird and I think the gods are trying to tell me either fix it or get out and I want to get out I was proud of her I was proud of her for not saying I really should fix things because we did like each other She's like no I don't want to fuck with this guy Ever again and he doesn't either

56:41Ronnie Karam: He's just like squinting And he just like smiles So they just Break apart And then I don't know I know this whole thing is always Harping on Craig but Jesus Christ Would it be so hard to be like Hey Vanita sorry I yelled at you You know, no, things aren't easy, but like maybe just something like he's just such an ass. So now they have to walk around with their eyes closed and find another partner, which, of course, leads to Craig and Austin holding hands through this whole speech. And it's a long one. This one's a long one. It's like our ancestors used to drink cocoa and they were miserable people.

57:26Ronnie Karam: And then someone found cacao and grandma learned how to feel things through her toes up into mother's womb. It's like, okay, Jesus Christ. Wrap it up, Victoria. Wrap it up. But they open their eyes, and Craig and Austin are staring at each other.

57:42Ben Mandelker: Yeah. It was as vanilla as you can imagine. They're just staring.

57:49Ronnie Karam: It's insane. And Craig's like, needs more cacao, am I right?

57:53Ben Mandelker: Yeah. This ceremony is very moving. Touching hands with Austin is this, like, fun callback to the memories that kept us friends for so long. Yeah, all those fun memories of when you guys stood and held hands and stared into each other's eyes. Yeah.

58:10Ronnie Karam: So they decide to heal. And then they have to hug each other. And Shep hugs Craig. He's like, I think Craig needed a hug. It was the most sincere and powerful hug I've ever given anybody. And then they show him hugging. And he's like, look at me.

58:27Ben Mandelker: So sincere.

58:29Ronnie Karam: Sincere face.

58:30Ben Mandelker: why did Craig need a really big hug again what was that for Craig is hurting guys

58:35Ronnie Karam: hurt people hurt people

58:39Ben Mandelker: so then okay I want all of you guys to close into a circle we're in a circle and now we'll close your eyes feel gratitude deep breath feel gratitude and Charlie's like there's definitely a hope that we can all move forward from and you know everything that's happened in the past couple of days but I think that Craig owes all of us an apology for his behavior and i just don't want to have to tell him that i want him to kind of come to that conclusion on his own i'm like well you can either wait for that or you can wait for haley's comet to come back i don't know which one will happen first but enjoy the waiting girl

59:14Ronnie Karam: am i was like do i think this spiritual journey is gonna fix stuff no it's gonna take more than this that was and uh i did the two by myself yeah and whitner's like it's gonna take more than a sweat lodge and some drum circles to exorcise these demons. Ah, Wittner.

59:34Ben Mandelker: Oh, what will happen with this fractured group? Well, next week is the season finale where they will get into formal wear and have another little masquerade ball in downtown Charleston and yell at each other and fun times will be had by all. But that's great because it also means that as Southern Charm sunsets, the sun rises on Southern Hospitality, which we are recapping next. And good God, if you are not watching this show, wow, Southern Hospitality is killing it.

1:00:10Ronnie Karam: It's so good. And also, just because some of you, I know, don't watch all the shows on Bravo, but this Ladies of London reboot is also excellent. I watched both episodes last night. Excellente. Okay, we will be covering that. So check out all the new stuff Bravo's got coming down the pike because it's pretty good.

1:00:29Ben Mandelker: Yeah, but if you watch Southern Charm but not Southern Hospitality, might we recommend you stay in Charleston and watch Southern Hospitality because it is firing so hard that I don't even know what to do with myself. But you know what? I do know what I'm going to do with myself. I'm going to end this, and we're going to pick this conversation back up again on that recap. Thanks, everyone, for being here. We'll catch you in the next one. Bye. Watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alison King. Our way is the Amber way. It's the foster and the furious. It's Amanda Foster.

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