#3288 Below Deck Down Under S04E09 Part Two: Honey Don’t

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2:34Ben Mandelker: What happens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Hello, and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap.

2:54Ronnie Karam: So Daisy comes and she's like, all right, guys, we're not achieving anything here. Daisy, I would just like her to cool it. He is abusive. He is abusive towards me. Oh. All right. But still it hurt. It hurt. It hurt my heart.

3:11Ben Mandelker: All right. All right, Ellie. She's like, well, you'll be, but you deserve it. Okay, Ellie, Ellie, Ellie, Ellie. I'm in charge now. I'm the captain of the ship now. I am the captain now. You servant, do it again. Okay. All right. All right. You can leave the galley and go to your cabin, Ellie. Okay. Get out of here. Get the hell out of here. This is wild. It's wild. Daisy, thank you. I've never known anything like that. She rattles me. It's not good. I may have lost control of my galley, marshmallow wobblekins. All right, Ben. All right, enough with that.

3:48Ronnie Karam: Have you spoken to Jason? I don't want to talk to Jason about it. I just want her out of here. Well, you've got a problem on your hands then, Ben, don't you? He's like, I know, don't I know. So now we go to Ellie in her room, and she's wrapping a cord around her curling iron. And she's like, oh, motherfucker, you take this to me, a curling iron? You watch your goddamn mouth. Curl me. I curl you. You curl me first, bitch.

4:13Ben Mandelker: I sell curling iron irons like you for milk where I come from. The curling iron is like, that seems like a terrible deal.

4:23Ronnie Karam: And Ben says wisely or aptly, I guess I should say, he's like, I've met my batch, haven't I? Oh, it's been a long day. Let's just go to bed. So now Ellie's like I don't know Daisy This fucking bent thing She's like alright She's trying to calm her down He takes no ownership Well I do understand that But you're not gonna solve it By losing your temper like that Alright now I know you know Let me pat your knee there for a second It's okay It's okay

4:53Ben Mandelker: She's saying Hey Joel She's saying I run a hostile work environment Well then she can leave at any time She can always go to Zim, okay, but no one's making her stay. Yeah, but that's so bad. I don't want a hostile environment. It's like, I'm upset that he got to the point of, he got me to the point of being fucking angry, but I couldn't fucking hold it in anymore. I just fucking snapped. You know, it's like you can only sell so many carrots before you say, just someone give me the damn milk already.

5:20Ronnie Karam: Okay, okay, let's try and get some sleep tonight, and tomorrow there's a way we can figure this out. I know there is, I know, I know, I know there is, don't worry. And meanwhile, Joelle's like, ah, you call everybody lovely and honey and sugar pumps. I mean, just this morning you called me French toast thymus gland. I don't know what that is, but I got a halfie. So I'm not really sure what everybody's so upset about. I mean, you're sexist to everybody.

5:44Ben Mandelker: Yes, I have to say, every time you call me fluffaroni pizza, I actually quite enjoy it.

5:51Ronnie Karam: You know, I actually masturbated after you called me tostoni testicles.

6:02Ben Mandelker: so Ben's like I mean it's a pet name it's a term of endearment and apparently it's not very endearing right now so I would definitely have taken this on board better with a professional conversation and I would have listened I didn't actually mean any harm by this I love the guy who's being totally unprofessional is now demanding professionalism from it's like from the person he's offending like that's what's always so funny like okay it's like 2026 and you should know that you just can't call like women that you're working with like honey buns and sweetie and love and well you can say i think you can say love maybe because that sounds that's so british but like i don't think you can you can't say half the shit that he's saying honestly um and then but then he's like well why wasn't she being professional i i can't believe she wasn't being professional to me two wrongs don't make it right but like also like it's it's just always funny to me that the person was being wildly unprofessional is always like disregarding the other person for just not being professional enough well i think that we're harping on the

6:59Ronnie Karam: honey lovey sweetie thing more than ellie is you know i think it bugs us more and i see i mean i think ellie's just sick of ben and she's she doesn't like where she feels like she's picking up all this extra slack so that he could go swimming and drink wine and stay in the guest cabin while she's having to do all of this shit and she's just breaking and she's like and now you're going to be condescending to me too like fuck you um i think there's the comments and stuff online are interesting about it because there's so many people who are like oh my god ben's just he's doing so great and this you know it's just a cultural thing and in his culture you know you're allowed to say honey and sweetie and okay you know what i can give you that up to a certain point until i think it's bullshit and i think you should know by now but if somebody tells you that then you stop i think the problem here is that he wasn't told you know if he was told and then he wouldn't stop um then maybe that would be a bigger problem but i still think that any any dude in 20 26 no matter where you're from should know better than to be like hey toots who does that yeah

8:01Ben Mandelker: yeah exactly um i mean i think that ultimately she just was feeling general disrespect from him and if she had been feeling respect, she probably would have received, you know, him saying sweetie as like, just like whatever. Like this is his way of showing fondness to the people he's working with. But since she's feeling general disrespect anyway, it's like, she's like, don't be disrespectful to me and then add a sweetie at the end of it as if everything is fine and cute and that you actually like me, but you're being totally disrespectful. You know, I think that's where sometimes it can be really frustrating.

8:40Ben Mandelker: You know, it's like, oh, by the way, you really fucked up, honey. It's like, oh, don't do that to me. The only one who can say honey is Hannah, by the way.

8:49Ronnie Karam: Honey. So Jason texts Ben to meet him in the bridge. And Daisy comes in and he's like, hey, Daisy, Ben messaged me last night about Ellie and said she was swearing at him. and I just want to know, has anybody considered boundaries? Drawing them?

9:07Ben Mandelker: It was wild. It was wild. It's like, well, Illy came to me before dinner. I saw that. The whole boat saw that. They saw a lady with a long ponytail, dressed in black, walking through at a quick pace, and they were all very alarmed by that. I was like, yeah, the guests saw her walk through, but it was like, she just walked through. To them, it was just like another staff member going from place A to place B.

9:28Ronnie Karam: It's not like she threw a potato at them. So, Daisy's like, yeah, you know, they're both justified in how they're feeling. But Ali, she cannot speak to crew members like that. Okay, all right. I've got to get to the bottom of it more, I guess. I thought I got to the bottom of it last night by standing in a doorway for a while, but I guess not. So now we go to Ben and Jason in the bridge. And he's like, let's take a seat, brother. Let's digest. This is called the boundary seat. Go ahead. Well, that wasn't like your average argument. This was serious. is and um then we then he's back with daisy uh daisy and jason and daisy's like you know she was like don't i'm not taking this and then when i stepped in i was like this is out of control and i don't think ben deserved it but yeah i think he needs to learn how to manage people

10:15Ben Mandelker: and so jason's like look it's serious she's come to me she mentioned names and i tried to say boundary three or four times and i wouldn't even calm her down and i tried to disappear into a bush but it turns out there was no bush. I just backed into the bar and knocked a glass off the top of it, which was embarrassing. And I was hoping it would be a blessing in disguise that the shattering of the glass would be enough to distract her and make her realize that she has to get out of here. But she kept on saying things, said something about carrots and selling them and milk in the town square and rotating things.

10:44Ben Mandelker: It was a lot to take in. And I said, I have to draw a boundary with you, Ellie. Nothing seemed to work. So I know it's a term of endearment, what you say, but it's not sitting well with her. And that's something that you have to work on. There needs to be some respect. Okay, I'm trying to read through it. And the question is, where do we go from here? We've got a wedding tonight. Are you able to work with her? Do I have to keep on having to talk with you guys? Because it's a lot of episodes of Salt Lake City. I've got to catch up on.

11:09Ronnie Karam: Well, I mean, I don't know. I'm still rattled by what happened. I mean, you can't even call anybody broccoli buttcheeks anymore without them getting offended. Now, frankly, that wouldn't have offended me, but it offends her, and that's the problem. So if it gets to a point I have to pull her out, I will, but that's not an option I want. I need you guys to go hard, go hard for 48 hours. And at the end of it, let's reassess our boundaries. He's like, all right, all right, man. So now we go to the galley and Ellie's like, good morning. Hello. How can I assist you? Well, we could light a sheet pan, please.

11:44Ronnie Karam: Put bacon on it. All right. Ah, thanks, licorice lungs. Damn it. Sorry. Sorry. It was an accident.

11:52Ben Mandelker: Well, I'm not sure where we stand or how we get through the season together. I'm kind of feeling like my job is on the line here. So, she's like, okay, what is next, please? Uh, can you clean the freezer, please? I need to figure out how to get to the season with him because I'm not going to lose my job over this man.

12:15Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Um, so now he's like, all right, thanks, Sally. All right, we're good. We're going to be fine. You like that? Be cold. Ellie felt weird to me personally, but, it's good for you. Loved it. Honestly, I'm trying to change the dynamic, and I think it's the less I say, the better, mate. Really. All right. You can't be offended if I don't talk to you. All right.

12:41Ben Mandelker: All right. Okay, you cheeky churro. Let's get back to work learning that sheet pan, shall we? So now Mike and Daisy are in the pantry, and Mike's like, good. I'm in such a good morning today. I had extra Aquanut in my hair. She's like, ah, yeah. When I woke up, I was just like, I can't wait to start work as a dexter. She's like, ah, my God, that's funny. So then Daisy, the guests are sitting for breakfast. A bunch of them want some soft scrambled eggs and accept that. So when Ben makes it, he's thinking he's making like European style, but they are more like just watery and a lot of the, just everyone's grossed out by all the pools of thin liquid accumulating on their plates.

13:23Ronnie Karam: yeah what was this because they cut to ben cooking the eggs and he's like oh this is a french way to do it but you know the french really like it this way so was that like a french technique it looked like it was just butter dripping out like a ton of butter or something

13:42Ben Mandelker: right i don't know i think there's there i'm sure there's probably like a science of if you cook at a certain temperature, the, the, the, the liquid will leach out. There's also something about like the, the earlier you salt your eggs, the less likely they are to get wet like that. They essentially kind of like break. Right. And so like, um, I, so it's always good to salt as early as possible. So maybe you didn't salt it, give it enough time for that salt to sort of like permeate. Um, something about like the salt kind of like bonds with the proteins in a way that the water or does not leach out or I don't know.

14:17Ben Mandelker: But whatever it was, something was wrong.

14:19Ronnie Karam: Yeah, wet. It looked like a river of fat, but I mean, eggs are fat. So I don't know if it was from that, but it looked like too much butter. I don't know.

14:26Ben Mandelker: It's like, excuse me.

14:28Ronnie Karam: Yeah, like were you steaming this in butter? What was it? So Nisha is like gross and she's pouring the water out of her eggs and Daisy comes out and she's like, Daisy, are these even real or are they like powdered scrambled eggs? Which I thought was kind of funny because like do powdered scrambled eggs get wet? I feel like I was very confused by this egg scene. Yeah, me too. Because it, whatever. So Daisy's like, nah, they're real scrambled eggs. I'll ask him how he makes them. And she goes, thank you because this is gross. These are the grossest eggs I've ever seen. She goes down and she's like, okay, Ben, she doesn't like the eggs.

15:05Ronnie Karam: She said they're super watery. I'd go and talk to her. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

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17:43Ben Mandelker: Well it turns out What you say is Whattery in your eggs is actually just An accumulation of my tears from Having a wedding that I never got to attend I'm sensitive now And I also got yelled at by my own sous chef Anyway what's the issue here They're like um Are you trying to kill me I'm like, okay, when you said soft eggs, I just thought you meant so soft it was like water, which is what I basically gave you. So I'll do a whole new breakfast for you. Don't worry about it.

18:10Ronnie Karam: She's like, no, actually, I'm full. But thanks. He's like, oh, God, I'm absolutely frazzled right now. I can't focus. My emotions are getting the better of me right now to be all up. So there, wedding, hold up. So Daisy tells Alicia to go to the beach. So put on her charm and entertaining side because she's going for the beach day. So then we go to Ellie and Jason having a meeting, and he's like, all right, mate. Now, what happened? You came to me before dinner. I woke up this morning, and I found out that things just escalated, and it shouldn't have escalated, all right? Boundaries, not escalators.

18:43Ronnie Karam: Do you understand? She's like, because he kept jabbing me, so I couldn't hold it in anymore. I'm sorry. I could not hold it.

18:50Ben Mandelker: Listen, have your boundaries, which I don't know if you know about this, but boundaries are great. I have a boundary, which is that you cannot cross the boundary to enter this office ever again. And if you ever want to talk about an issue, you can do it every three days at the TIP meeting. So if you don't want to be called honey, I respect that. If you don't want to be called flirty flan, I respect that. If you don't want to be called sticky sweetie, I respect that. If you don't want to be called gooey ganache, absolutely, I get it. But that's a conversation that you could have with Ben about his demeanor or things that you're feeling.

19:24Ben Mandelker: And I don't want you to squash your emotions. I just want you to take them, put them in this tiny box, wrap it in a bow, and throw it overboard. How about that?

19:32Ronnie Karam: I think that would work well for you. Basically, you went a little too far, all right? She goes, I did. I did. All right. Now, if there's a tone you're not happy with, that's a work environment conversation. It doesn't have to escalate to swearing and yelling, all right? Because we have a complaint procedure here, you know? All yachts do, all right? If you've got a problem, you go to anybody but me, all right? Tell them about it. And then they come to me and I say, tell them to work it out. Do you understand? All right. Because what we've going on, that can't go on. Do you understand me? All right.

20:05Ronnie Karam: We're going to work through this rough patch a little bit. Can you do that? What rhymes with foundries?

20:13Ben Mandelker: I don't know. Foundries.

20:15Ronnie Karam: It's okay. It's all right. We'll work on that. We'll work on that. All right. Well, I'm happy to continue respecting him. But at the same time, there needs to be respect given back. R-E-S-B-E-C-T. Find out what it means to me. Do you understand?

20:29Ben Mandelker: What does it mean to you? Well, I didn't mean you have to literally find out.

20:34Ronnie Karam: Listen. Listen to her, Rita. Please. Please. Do not disrespect her, Rita.

20:40Ben Mandelker: Here's what you do. Next time you have an issue, go and tell Mike, but tell him it's actually a chore for him. It's a task for him to go get to the bottom of this. And by the time he figures it out, three hours later, you will have cooled down.

20:53Ronnie Karam: The season will be over. All right? All right, now, this is going to take both of you. All right, let's see how we go today. Get back into it, okay? I appreciate it. I appreciate that. It's like, oh, I need some fucking M &Ms. That's what I need.

21:08Ben Mandelker: So now the crew has to get ready for the vow renewal, a.k.a. the first step into the dissolution of this marriage. So Joao was like, tonight, the guests are getting Zim married, and that means that there's a lot of Zim pressure on the interior side. So if I could just help take the weight off of Daisy and get the guests away from the yacht for a few hours, I'd be more than zim happy to do that.

21:30Ronnie Karam: So in the galley, Ellie and Ben are tense still. She's like, hey. Hi. Well, when you have a chance, do you want to maybe look up through the meat to see what needs to be thrown out? Okay. Thank you. Thank you, meatlooker. Thank you. And Jason hears us and he's like, all in a day's work. All in a day's work.

21:53Ben Mandelker: look at me bringing people together next step world peace so uh the guests are they take the tender to the beach and everyone's setting up the wedding and he's like so all these guests are actually marred but they didn't have a big wedding so now they're gonna have a slightly bigger wedding with seven people instead i was like wow you really it's like you really went from having your elopement with two people to a wedding with seven people. I mean, it is seven times the size. So, there's a lot of pressure, especially after making these really ridiculous mistakes. Then we see the panty liner stuck against the wall and then no champagne in the bedroom, watery eggs.

22:34Ben Mandelker: I honestly will not be able to sleep if I make Mark and Clay in any way sad or disappointed because they're the sweetest, cutest human beings who deserve the best. They're so cute that I have to restrain myself from going up to them and saying, you're so cute! God, I love them.

22:51Ronnie Karam: And now it's time for Fish Report. Fish Report. Oh, my God. It's a fish report. Okay, so we start out with an octopus. Squid. I don't know what it is. It's an octopus. It's an octopus. And it's doing one of those things where it's got a front pony because it's afraid it's balding. So it's putting all of its hair up to the front and just moving backwards slowly.

23:17Ben Mandelker: It's kind of doing a Trump. I'm not going to lie. But like a beautiful version. Like this is what Trump was aspiring to is what this octopus is doing. This octopus is great. And the octopus is like, well, I could be camouflaged right now, but I'm really feeling red today. So I'll only lightly turn blue as I go away. But bitch, I'm saying red. If I get killed, at least I'll be high fashion when I die.

23:41Ronnie Karam: and it looks very graceful but it's terrified of the cameras it's just backing away or is it going

23:47Ben Mandelker: forward and it has eyes in the back of his head that's classic octopus like octopi are actually it's octopuses it's actually not octopi it's octopuses um they love a misdirection so they're like look at me i'm going forward but my tentacles are going backwards so am i going backwards or am i going forward you that's that's one secret i'll never tell xoxo gossip octopus do i have a huge

24:09Ronnie Karam: nose or a huge head? I don't know. Which side of me are you judging? Loser! I'm gone. I'm an optical illusion. Am I still red? Geez. They can see me now.

24:20Ben Mandelker: I'm an optical illusion or as I like to call it, an octopal illusion. Thanks, guys. You ever see that drawing of like, is it an old woman or is it a young woman? You can't tell. That's me. That's me right now. Big nose, big butt. Hard to say.

24:33Ronnie Karam: Alright, now we go to the cutest fish of the day. I mean this fish is adorable this is that little blue specked fish that's staring right into the camera with like little human lips like hello

24:45Ben Mandelker: it's like so I hear that there's a little bit of a pageant for cute fish and I like to throw my name into it we had that parfer fish two weeks ago that was amazing we had that shark last week where we thought it's nostrils were its eyes which looks so cute and now we have this guy who's like this one is so cute and I think the fact that it's sort of on its side makes it even cuter

25:03Ronnie Karam: it's like the Sheena head tilt I only get my good side tilt

25:09Ben Mandelker: it's like taking a portrait at Sears it's like hi

25:13Ronnie Karam: just tilt your head a little bit and leave your lips open because that's how models do it yeah

25:19Ben Mandelker: so one thing that I'm working on is I'm trying to show my good side more and so I've heard that if you just tilt and just lower one fin and raise another it actually makes you look a bit more slender so

25:30Ronnie Karam: oh so that was a good shot oh good good I'm glad you got the shot no no I can't high five you it never works out. My hands are see-through.

25:38Ben Mandelker: But this fish also is like the equivalent of an influencer who sees a pink wall or angel wings graffited onto the side of the building. It's like, oh my god, I gotta take a picture with it. Because it's like, oh my god, take a picture of me by this coral. It looks so good. I'm putting this on the gram. It's going on the grid.

25:54Ronnie Karam: This is the cutest fish. Oh my gosh. Goldfish, basic. I don't know.

26:00Ben Mandelker: No, these are just like wild goldfish. And that's what I really appreciate about them. They're just like they are basic but there's just something that they're like you know what it's nighttime but we're gonna put on like our nighttime best like it's dark but we're gonna look lovely here but are they

26:15Ronnie Karam: like no they're all in disarray no one's swimming in uniform they're just like going every which way this is why you guys get captured and given away at fairs like you have no organization amongst your group they're just like as long as you don't catch me

26:30Ben Mandelker: they're like school's out for summer literally we're not in a school right now we're just an assemblage

26:35Ronnie Karam: every hour is 3 30 p.m they're like we're done there's dropping pencils we're done no school

26:41Ben Mandelker: left you are undisciplined so i actually kind of like their chaos because i feel like we always see all these what always happens is we always see these school of fish they're all going one direction and there's one that's all going the wrong direction and we always make fun of them but here they're just all like they're just like all having like a crazy mosh but they're like at a street fair or something they're like oh my god did you see that they have like um they've got they've got like adorable like truffle puffs over there truffle puffs really because they have like an amazing gelato stand over there.

27:05Ben Mandelker: Really? Which way should we go? Yeah, but over there is

27:08Ronnie Karam: the water gun that you shoot into the balloons and then they explode. I'm playing that one. They're just all over the place. And then goldfish get lost and then some mother yells at the teacher and it's like, no, your child is undisciplined. But this is how

27:20Ben Mandelker: they die. This is how they die. They do get caught this way because, you know.

27:23Ronnie Karam: You look at this and you're like, oh, you think you're having fun now? You will all get flushed down toilets one day after being one in a fair. This fish, gorgeous. This is what we call a wallpaper fish. This is a good looking, this is like Reza wallpaper.

27:39Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Gorgeous, but also kind of dumb. Like you can tell like this fish does not carry a good conversation. Look at its eyes. It's like, what? It's like, oh my God, did you see, did you see Real Housewives last night? Um, what's that? You don't know about the Real Housewives? I don't have a TV. I don't, I think it has a TV. I think it has a TV, but it watches like, yes, reruns of Yes Dear. It like watches like old CBS sitcoms at one of those random stations that's like channel 17 you know i think it's just like totally uninterested in pop culture

28:09Ronnie Karam: it's either literature or everybody loves raymond for me and it has a very long face but no nose it's just like constantly looking down its nose at you it's like oh the morals the morals on anything else i simply can't suffer through them but like wealthy and boring because like we love

28:27Ben Mandelker: wealthy and fabulous but this is just wealthy and boring where they just have nothing interesting to

28:31Ronnie Karam: say, you know, yeah, it's the same old Chanel you've been wearing for 30 years. Also, it's all faded here. Yeah.

28:38Ben Mandelker: Yeah. It's a stupid fish, but pretty.

28:40Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Pretty. So now this is another eel thing, right?

28:44Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I think it's, it could be a sea snake. Quite frankly, I can't tell if it's an eel or sea snake. I'm not sure, but I will say tiny head on this one. It's, it's very graceful the way it moves, but that, I don't know if it's maybe the head is far away from the camera, but But like that, you know, that, you know, this it's embarrassing. It's like, it's like, I'll never be a celebrity. My head is just too disproportionately small.

29:06Ronnie Karam: And also I keep getting my feet stuck at the door. So that was really embarrassing. God, I just can't get out of a car without slamming it on my lower half of my body. Cause it's all flat down here on this, but.

29:18Ben Mandelker: And you know, it hates, like it has a real issue with t-shirts. Cause it's like, well, the thing is this, I need to have a wide t-shirt to fit my body, but my head is so small. so the neck will always just look so gaping.

29:29Ronnie Karam: And it always wants to play paddle ball. They're like, stop making your faults into a positive eel. It's like, no, look, I can hit it. I can hit it with my butt, okay?

29:38Ben Mandelker: Teeny tiny head. Why is his head so small? It's hilarious. It's like, hello. Yeah. Like it's not even supposed to have a head.

29:47Ronnie Karam: 14 love. 14 love. I may have a small head, but I'm killing it in tennis. Bring it on, Gigi Fernandez. I'm not afraid of you.

29:55Ben Mandelker: I hope everyone appreciates the gentle current I'm creating. So for all you fish that are looking for some plankton, I'm helping you out. Thanks, but no thanks, I suppose.

30:06Ronnie Karam: Hey, did I hear there's a wedding? Let's do the snake. Let's do the snake. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

30:12Ben Mandelker: You're like, oh, God, there it is doing this dance move again. It's like.

30:16Ronnie Karam: It's like Kyle Richardson or splits. It's like, oh, God, he's doing the worm again. Here we go. We got it. You've got upper body strength.

30:25Ben Mandelker: well i'm very self-conscious about what i eat because everyone can see it

30:30Ronnie Karam: most terrifying stingray i've ever seen is this a bat is it hairy this is a

30:34Ben Mandelker: looks so hairy it's i think this is actually a manta ray this is big and it's so big that in on aussie in the next shot of it it looks like a behemoth it looks like that's the same thing i thought that was a different fish it looks like a monster back there like how huge it is it's like

30:52Ronnie Karam: It looks like a whale and a ray. And look at that mouth. It looks like someone's doing a puppet show. Is that his mouth? Or is that one of... What is that? This thing's terrifying.

31:02Ben Mandelker: Just wait. Just can you go forward a little bit so we can see some...

31:06Ronnie Karam: Again. Oh, he's got a skull under him. He's got the painting of a skull on his underside. I would not fuck with this one. Whoever is on the B-roll team is brave.

31:16Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I think they're docile, though. I think they're just big.

31:19Ronnie Karam: That doesn't look docile.

31:22Ben Mandelker: I do remember there was a new story about 15 years ago that, you know, sometimes these, you know, rays, sometimes they will, was it breaching or whatever? They sometimes come jumping out of the water. They like to do that. Yeah. Like to go jumping out. And there was a new story of one of these manta rays jumped out of the water just as a boat was approaching and it slammed into a woman on the, on the deck of that boat. And she died. I think the ray died too. Isn't that crazy? So much for being docile. I know.

31:51Ronnie Karam: Actually, this does look like a skull and bones on its underside, but it also looks like Bueller. On my dog, oddly enough. It sort of looks like Africa. That is one terrifying looking fish. Okay, so let's all clear our palates by looking at this sweet turtle taking a nap with his friend, the starfish.

32:09Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Wow. I love this unlikely couple. Turtle, starfish, what a duo, right?

32:15Ronnie Karam: This is so cute. It's like a French, it's like a dodo video where the dog hugs the cat.

32:20Ben Mandelker: I know. The turtle's like, well, I hear that there's a shark that's been sleeping recently, and I think if the shark can sleep, I can sleep. Am I right? Okay, starfish. They had a successful date. Everyone wants to be close to me because I'm a star.

32:34Ronnie Karam: All right. Love your dad joke. Love your dad joke. God, I just love spending time with you, starfish.

32:39Ben Mandelker: Which way do you think the starfish is pointing? I know that their faces are on the bottom, but I like to think that one of those legs is the face, and then two of them are the hands and two of their feet, right? And so if you think of it like the head is the one closest, that's really cute. But I also like to think it gets cuter in every single scenario. Whichever place you orient the head, you get a different kind of cute look, if that makes sense. There's different cute scenarios for the starfish.

33:08Ronnie Karam: This is an adorable starfish, and I love its outfit. I mean, that's really cool. It's like red and beaded. Part of me, it is beautiful.

33:17Ben Mandelker: Part of me wonders if the starfish really likes having the turtle nearby. I feel like the starfish is like, you know, I love the turtle. But the thing is that I like having my own space when I sleep.

33:28Ronnie Karam: The turtle's mom is like, would you stop hanging out with people who literally can't run away from you? Okay. It doesn't mean they want to be your friend. Starfish can't move. Okay.

33:39Ben Mandelker: What are you doing? They're gossiping. They're gossiping before they fall asleep. And then the starfish is like just trying to fall asleep. but the turtle's like, and then here's the other thing. So that one fish, it's really cute, but it's always like, take a picture of me in front of the coral, take a picture of me in front of the coral. It's like, I don't want to take another picture of you in front of the coral. In fact, that's all that you have on your grid. Like show some real personality. It's not about backgrounds.

33:58Ronnie Karam: The starfish is like, I just want to go to sleep. The starfish is like, oh yeah, well, did you hear about that manta ray? His brother ran into a boat, fucking idiot. Look at him up there. Skull and bones t-shirt. Nobody's scared of you. Your family's idiots. Okay, you're all idiots. And that is the end of the Fish Report. Fish Report. This has been a Fish Report.

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35:03Ronnie Karam: Hey, sweetie. Your mother showed me this Carvana thing for selling the car. I'm going to give it a try. Wish me luck. Me again. I put in the license plate. It gave me an offer. Unbelievable. Okay. I accepted the offer. They're picking it up Tuesday from the driveway. I haven't even left my chair. It's done. The car is gone. I'm holding a check. Anyway, Carvana, give it a whirl. Love ya.

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35:35Ronnie Karam: Okay, so now Ben is down in the galley and he's like, all right, we're going to work on the cake. It's a big project. and you did a beautiful job icing that cake, my little dulce de leche diaphragm. All right.

35:51Thank you.

35:52Ben Mandelker: And he's like, yeah. So he's like, yeah, just get some extra icing, pipe it around so it's white. Nice. And that will be nice, right? Okay. Very great, my messy macaron. So then on the beach, the guests are drinking rum punch. They're all happy. the wedding setup is going on people really like Alicia's spicy Tabasco margarita and Jenna and Eddie are trying to set up the wedding on the sun deck and Jenna's just chatting with him and everything and she's saying this is going to be for our wedding one day he's like in South Africa come on I lived in South Africa my whole life you're going to take me back to my home contract he's like yeah or we'll get married in New Zealand then

36:37Ronnie Karam: and she tells us I did say I'm a trap, but I did, but you know, what can I say? Love is in the air. Maybe I'll forgive him now. You know, maybe I'm over the situation with him and Lisa. Maybe I can be passed out. Maybe I can have a little flat back.

36:50Ben Mandelker: Boo, hiss. Why do they always do this? They always fall for it. They're just lonely. Lonely and horny on this boat.

36:56Ronnie Karam: I feel like this whole episode, it opened with the Amanda and Wes news, and now we're here. And I just feel this is an episode, like, it's okay to be alone. You know? Yeah. It is. It is. Calm down, everybody. Calm down. So now we go back to the galley where Ellie is frosting her cake, and he's like, oh, look at that. It's a little pineapple right-side-up cake, isn't it? Isn't it, man? She's like, oh, it's going to make it more difficult to transfer. Oh, you're so clever, aren't you? Aren't you? When we ice it, can we put the pineapple? Beautiful. We want to put pineapple? I know you're going to do a good job.

37:29Ronnie Karam: I feel it. I feel it coming, Ellie. She's like, oh, my God. I'm going to do my best, too, chef. What the hell? Oh, geez, these two made a turn.

37:37Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I think basically having the captain say, like, get it together. I think, like, they both were just like, okay, we got to make this work. So now the guests are ready to head back. And Jenna, meanwhile, is still setting up this arc on the deck. And she's like, Mark, Mark, I'm going to grab some more vines. Can you help me with the farolots, Mark? Mark, can you give me the farolots? You're not going to listen to me anyway, huh?

38:04Ronnie Karam: and Mike is in a corner making like different shapes out of his ball skin. And so then everyone comes to get changed and we go back to the sun deck and Jenna's still decorating and Mike claps at her to hurry up. She's like, Don't clap your hands at me. I've asked you for fairy lights. And Daisy comes out. She's like, We've got less than 45 minutes. Jenna, you've got 45 minutes. You better hurry up. I'm actually going to get really annoyed. Come stop wasting time, Mike.

38:31Ben Mandelker: I've asked him for fairy lights and there's like fairy lights there's no fairy lights around where the fairy lights like there's no fairy lights in the box got the fairy lights Dave's like okay I'll get you the fairy lights come on hurry up you guys Mike's like I just need Janet to work faster so we can all get it done quicker he's like I'm getting really passed off at you now he's like you know when Jenny's not in the mood for jokes it makes me want to wind her up even more like that's great but you're working and so don't wind up the person you're trying to have a smooth workplace with just get the fucking fairy lights already

39:00Ronnie Karam: you know those little gnomes in front of houses that people put out. I feel like Mike is the reason why people kick those over. So Daisy comes back with fairy lights, and they finish it. It's a huge achievement. And now Ellie's icing the cake. Everybody's loving it. Now on the sun deck. Mike's like, oh, it looks really wonderful. I don't know what's going on with the art. It looks like we're wrapping a mummy. She's like, shut up, Mike. Okay, I just want to get changed in 10 minutes. Can we do that? Can we do it?

39:29Ben Mandelker: It looks really beautiful new. He's like, stop doing that. I really feel like you're so condescending, Mike. And he's like, okay, guys, just quiet down. He's like, I'm just doing the fabulous. He's like, I'm really frustrated. Oh, God, fuck me. If they stopped fucking bickering, this would be done by now.

39:46Ronnie Karam: So they just bicker and bicker and bicker. It's like, oh, my God, children, let's go. So now it's 15 minutes until the ceremony. And it looks great. It looks great, everybody. So Alicia radios the crew that the guests are ready. and then we go to the bar with Ben, Eddie, and Batool and Ben's like, this is pretty cool, right, Batool? Right, Eddie? And he's like, when's the last wedding you went to? And he goes, I just missed one. It was my own.

40:17Ben Mandelker: Clearly tonight dinner is reminiscently triggering for me but I'm going to put my thoughts behind me. I've already ruined one wedding and I'll be damned if I'm going to ruin another. I'm sensitive now. Oh, so then we see Jason and Daisy and Joao in the sun deck, and they're all goofing off, ready for this wedding to start. And Daisy's like, if I happen to find myself in a committed relationship, perhaps with Kara, yeah, I might have a small wedding, the rented dress, and I certainly will not be spending money. But I'm not 22 with a fucking Pinterest board of my dream wedding. I have a Pinterest board of pita chips.

40:51Ben Mandelker: That's what I've got. And I'm like, dude, I'm just trying to get to my fucking second date.

40:56Ronnie Karam: so now is the wedding and the guys are all cute and crying and they're like oh you're my heart you're my home i love you the other one's like yeah thanks for understanding me and controlling me unconditionally and i don't know buying me this weird silk one piece i'm wearing um but i promise to be i'm gonna be your support wow and so you know bay in beige oh honey so they kiss and it's nice and everyone's cheering so then it's dinner time

41:27Ben Mandelker: today I'd like to just I just would like to say today Mark and Clay may your days be filled with joys unites with laughter and the in-betweens the boundaries I now pronounce you boundary and boundary

41:42Ronnie Karam: I put this ring on your finger otherwise known as a boundary right other people will see that you're now married congratulations boundary people kiss kiss do it oh god they kissed so then um everyone goes to dinner and ben serves a filet mignon with pinko encrusted baby eggplant and uh the cake is ready the cake is ready ah and jason tells the guests about his daughter saskia and he's like she grew up in the philippine she's got the filipino empathy and sympathy. God, thank God for those Filipinos. They really can feel things. You know, I called her the other day and I said, I'm hungry. And she said, for M &Ms.

42:23Ronnie Karam: And I said, thank God for the Filipino in you, little girl.

42:28Ben Mandelker: She's got the Filipino empathy, the Filipino sympathy, and the Australian sandalwood. That's what she's got out of it. She wants to care for everyone.

42:37Ronnie Karam: So the cake comes out and it's pretty. It's a pineapple cake. And everyone's like, oh, my God, it's a cake. and then Daisy and Batoola. By the way, did you... Go ahead.

42:46Ben Mandelker: Sorry. Did you notice that the top tier of that cake was so teeny tiny? It was like the size of a tomato paste can. Because it was like, they're getting progressively smaller, but the top tier, it was like a little column. And I was like, I think the proportions are wrong on that, Ben.

43:05Ronnie Karam: How dare you?

43:09Ronnie Karam: So Daisy is telling Batoola she could be a stew. She's so helpful. And she's like, stop saying that. She goes, no, you did a great job. She goes, never. Geez.

43:19Ben Mandelker: Also, I don't even know what you just said. I just want you to stop saying it. I'm tired.

43:25Ronnie Karam: So then the guests go to bed, and Ellie and Ben are really nice to each other. He compliments her cake. And it's like, good teamwork. And he's like, yeah, that's right. So then the next morning, now it's breakfast time, and Ben's like, this is the great egg challenge. They've got to be perfect. They just don't need to look like they went through a car wash. Yeah, exactly.

43:46Ben Mandelker: And Alicia's cleaning a nightstand, and she's saying to herself, Alicia, what am I doing? Which I think she does all the time, it seems like. And so Daisy sends Jenna to help her because, God forbid, Alicia can actually succeed at any task on this boat.

44:00Ronnie Karam: So Daisy opens a nightstand, and Alicia was cleaning it, and she finds the towel Alicia was using to clean in the nightstand drawer. So she's like, guys, Carl, come in here. Look what I've just found. For fuck's sake. Don't make my job any harder than it needs to be. And Alicia goes, it was definitely Mikey. And then they show the clip again of Alicia leaving it there.

44:20Ben Mandelker: Oh, God. And he's like, Jenna, just please double check. Jenna's like, it's ridiculous. Alicia and I and Mike just like, don't give a damn. And they're like making me look bad in front of Daisy. And I'm already feeling the pressure a second still. So like now the cleaning cloth, it's just like so embarrassing. So then we docked the boat successfully without any drama. And the guests are filling out their comment cards. And then they say goodbye. And Clay's like, I get emotional. But you guys have made this so special. And we both come from very humble beige beginnings. And to be on a$36 million yacht with a crew like this with watery eggs and slow service and panty liners attached to the walls of our closet.

45:01It's just absolutely phenomenal.

45:03Ben Mandelker: Thank you so much. I do.

45:05Ronnie Karam: We come from humble beginnings. You don't say, your husband is standing next to you in a Louis Vuitton bucket hat, a Gucci belt. He's like the Amanda Francis of this. There's just like brands falling all over him. So they leave, and Alicia's like, I love love. And seeing Clay and Mark together, they've definitely got something really strong and secure. It's something I aspire me and my boyfriend to have. You've been with your boyfriend for five minutes, Alicia. Calm down with this boyfriend. And she's like, and you know, we're not quite renewing our vows yet, but one day I can't wait to leave a rag in his drawer.

45:41Ben Mandelker: So Daisy and Ben are in the crew mess and Daisy's like, how are you feeling? And Ben's like, well, I feel like I just did 15 rounds with Muhammad Ali and got the shit kicked out of me. And we didn't even have our wedding yet. Oh, sorry.

45:56Ronnie Karam: So Jason calls Ellie up to the bridge and he's like, now listen, I've not got a problem with Ellie having issues, but the way she went about them, that's the problem. So he calls her in and he's like, and Ben needs to take account for the original issue. I want them to see out the season and work well together, but it's a risk. So I've got to see if this could work. so I'm going to call them to the bridge and then I'm going to stand outside the door and I'm going to see what happens.

46:26Ben Mandelker: All right, you two. I think you guys need to have a chat now. Now, let's end emotionally. She wants more respect. I want to see that resolved. And if you have a problem with that, we make changes. So, as the captain, it's my responsibility to oversee this conversation and mediate it by stepping out of the room and finding some M &Ms. So, good luck. Boundaries. Do the thing. I'll see you in about 10 minutes. boy.

46:52Ronnie Karam: I was like, all right. Thank you. Bourbon ball biceps. All right, Ellie, let's get down to it. Why are you leaving?

47:00Ben Mandelker: I feel like the captain should stay and oversee this.

47:03Ronnie Karam: Because this is Captain Jason. I'm telling you, Captain Jason hates this shit. Every time there's a problem, he's like, all right, here's what we're going to do. You're going to work it out. All right. I'll be in my cabin. Hands-off approach, guys. Hands-off. All right, everybody. Thank you so much for being with us today. We will be back actually very soon, tomorrow, and the next day, and the next day for the rest of your lives. Come check on us. We sure love you guys. We'll talk to you soon.

47:36Ben Mandelker: Check on us.

47:37Ronnie Karam: Bye.

47:37Ben Mandelker: Make sure we're okay.

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