


The hosts recap Bravo/Reality TV news and especially the ongoing Summer House “Scamanda”/West-and-Amanda scandal, including rumors of West’s cheating and the fallout. They also cover other celebrity-reality controversies (Jen Shaw after prison; Taylor Frankie Paul leaving the Mormon church; Dakota being edited out of Vanderpump Villa; Kim Richards/Croy custody/therapy dispute; Sigh David divorce; Janet Caperna political backlash) plus lighter chatter (Easter/Passover outfits, merch, charity posts, and a cryptic Sierra Miller Jesus teddy-bear meme).
No guests appear in the transcript; it’s Ronnie and Ben (CrowpyHour Live) with listener comments.
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West was in an exclusive relationship with another woman while secretly dating Amanda; he was actively dating “Mija/Montana Girl” (Meija Moreno) and met her via family/friends; Kyle Cook is “a mess”/Carl is “a mess,” and Carl is filming post-Scamanda; Sierra is a nurse saving people; Lindsay denies rumors about the reunion date; Kim allegedly lost custody over missed therapy tied to reality-show filming.
Mayor Mom Donnie (NYC mayor) endorsing “team Sierra”; Uber Eats ads featuring Carl/Lindsay; Jesus teddy-bear cryptic post; Jen Shaw interview ignoring “black guy/black eye” question; Hulu editing Dakota out after domestic abuse allegations.
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The hosts dive into the latest reality TV scandals and listener interactions.
“So welcome to a very scandalous crappy hour.”
Exploring the ongoing drama surrounding West and Amanda's relationship.
“So I'm sure a lot of you want to talk about that, which we will.”
Ronnie and Ben share their Easter-themed outfits and personal anecdotes.
“It's like, it's high stakes enough that we're all like invested and we're all in it together, all holding hands together.”
Hosts discuss upcoming content and breaking news related to the podcast.
“We're both in pink because it was Easter yesterday.”
Analyzing Jen Shaw's interview following her prison release and its implications.
“I guess, where there's like a salmon that's like looking at like paint swatches or something because of course a cartoon.”
Discussing Taylor Frankie Paul's departure from the Mormon church.
“But it would help me a lot if you would answer it.”
Examining the controversy surrounding Vanderpump Villa and its cast members.
“And will she ever return to Salt Lake City?”
Exploring the custody issues faced by Kim and the implications for her children.
“So really, they make Mormonism look fun again.”
Discussion about Kim's custody issues and her commitment to therapy.
“And she came out with a statement, which was so Kim.”
Discussion about the breakup of a couple from the Real Housewives franchise.
“I mean, I know that there was like all these allegations that she used to work for him as a bartender and then she lies and says they met on some vacation somewhere and no one buys it, you know, but I don't care.”
Analysis of Janet Caperna's comments and the backlash she faces.
“And she's doing an interview with Us Weekly.”
Exploration of the varying political affiliations of cast members in Bravo shows.
“And so they're not going to like me, but she was actually doing the, some people vibe, I guess, according to her.”
The hosts express eagerness to discuss the Summer House reality series.
“By the way, someone said, I'm a Dem Socialist and have friends who are pretty right-wing.”
The hosts share a humorous anecdote about a political figure's take on a reality TV scandal.
“I'm a Dern Socialist, like a special type of socialist who is also into Laura Dern.”
The hosts discuss Kyle's recent interview while walking his dogs and the dynamics of the Summer House cast.
“I had no idea he was being going to be interviewed because Summerhouse is like the least subtle of all of the reality stars.”
They delve into Lindsay's promotional video for Uber Eats and the surrounding drama.
“But I'm glad that they understood the mission.”
Discussion about Lindsay's response to rumors and the expectations placed on her.
“But let me tell you, Jumma really loves to run and play.”
The hosts engage in a conversation about appearance shaming in the context of reality stars.
“By the way, though, like I still cannot get over the fact that Avery is 30 now.”
The conversation shifts to the evolving relationship between Kyle and Amanda amidst the scandal.
“But what I was going to say about, there was something else about this scandal that I was, that was something that was about Lindsay.”
Exploration of a spiritual image shared by Sierra and its implications in the context of her situation.
“And then the little girl that Jesus is talking to says, but I love it.”
Discussing developments in the Summer House cast dynamics and filming.
“Okay, let's get back into some of these headlines.”
Unpacking the cheating rumors surrounding West Wilson and Amanda.
“I've only watched it silent, and it was still horrible.”
Exploring the implications of cheating scandals on reality relationships.
“And he was wearing that when he was on Watch What Happens Live two weeks ago, right before this all broke up.”
Engaging with the audience and discussing their input.
“I'm sure there's like a ton of them now, but it's time to go to audience participation time.”

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1:20Well, hello and welcome to CrowpyHour Live! I'm Ronnie that's Ben over there
1:27Ben Mandelker: Hi Ben Hi Ronnie how's it going Good happy Monday How's everything going with you Um everything is going Just great uh shout out To our listeners who have arrived here look Uh Lauren in the comment says Hi I paused the NASA live stream to giggle With you boys well thank you I mean what are they doing up there like in space What are you gonna find more space congratulations We've got scandals down here It's a big place Has West fucked somebody in space? Probably. Probably. Yeah, probably has. So welcome to a very scandalous crappy hour. You know, we did this two weeks ago and before, but we did not know all the West and Amanda stuff.
2:08So this is our first crappy hour since we have done that. So I'm sure a lot of you want to talk about that, which we will. Oh, there's a lot of stories. A lot of them. But before we get to that, let's get to some other stuff because I think that will probably take over. and then the people who are sick of hearing about that shit can can bounce well i care but you won't bounce though you're not going to you said you're like i'm so sick of hearing about weston uh sierra and amanda you will still be here listening to every morsel because i'm sick of hearing about it frankly i'm i'm totally sick of it and i will still read every story that comes out on the reddit i read every i'm like i another story that i have had it with these people who are the oh girl
2:48Ben Mandelker: what happened now. Don't read them. I like it. It's like a nice low stakes scandal for me. It's like, it's high stakes enough that we're all like invested and we're all in it together, all holding hands together. Like guys, we got this. But it's low stakes enough that I feel, I feel enthused by it. And you know, like we'd love a scandal that's unfolding real time as the show is airing. We just did, we did an interview for The Cut. Check it out. Their article came out I think over the weekend or maybe today about, you know, this whole scandal and the role of podcasters and content creators in it.
3:26Ben Mandelker: Shout out to all the other content creators that were referenced in the article. And one thing that we were talking about in the interview is just like how fun it is when we're seeing a show airing and it's presenting one narrative, but like the real narrative that we're seeing unfolding in real time is something else. And that's like the best thing. Honestly, I love that. So I'm all for this. We care so much we came in twin shirts today. We're both in pink because it was Easter yesterday. And Ben's very Easter-centered. He's a very Easter-centered Jew. You dressed in pinkish to celebrate Easter.
4:02Ben Mandelker: I dressed in pinkish salmon to celebrate the gravlocks I made over the weekend for Passover. Yeah. I'm actually in a weird shirt. Look at it. It's like pink, but it has these waves. and I just realized today that it's like a big frowny. It's like, it's frowning. My shirt is frowning. And I thought that's not very nice for Easter, but whatever, I wore it anyway. Whatever Easter money, what have you done for me lately? My friend Judy was talking about this New Yorker cartoon, I guess, where there's like a salmon that's like looking at like paint swatches or something because of course a cartoon.
4:37Ben Mandelker: And it's like, what do you mean this color is salmon? What do you mean? What do you mean? Which is funny if you think about it. It really is. I love some color humor. All right, let's get on. Oh, wait. Michael Horn says, by the way, breaking in the city trailer drops tomorrow. Oh, wow. I've got even bigger breaking news. We have something to do for a bonus episode this week. Thank God. Okay, yay, the city. Okay, we can all rip that apart second by second. Like, oh, are there any clues? Are there any clues? So let's go through some of this news. shall we there really is a lot of summer house links here i'm fast forwarding through some of those jen shaw is out of prison and um she gave a big huge energy interview i guess that nobody really cares about um including me but i figured we should read through some of it because it might be fun but uh i like that poor jen you know she comes out of prison nobody really cared and then she gives a big interview and still nobody really cared because only amanda and west matter right in the news.
5:43I'm Sierra, of course. Bad timing. Like villains, the only villains that matter in the news. I mean, Amanda and West have overshadowed Iran. Do you remember that we're at war? Anybody? Okay, I thought so. No.
5:55Ben Mandelker: It's like, well, it's actually, Amanda and West are so big that my dad sent me a link today. The one that was in New York Times that we talked about a few days ago on the show. Like, did you see this? And then he's like, also, this New York Times reporter said that this is like an organic scandal. Does he not, did they not realize what the role is of PR people and bloggers and podcasters are in these things? I was like, okay, dad, you should let them know. You should let them know. I was like, okay, okay, dad. This scandal has no corn syrup.
6:26Ben Mandelker: So yeah, this interview, yeah, that's bad timing. It just fell. It just, no one paid attention. No one cared. Like this is just not where our heads are at right now, especially because like we got a new Real Housewives of Rhode Island that's premiering. We have Ladies of London, which is still all anyone can talk about. Honestly, people are talking a lot about Beverly Hills because the season came to life. So everyone's just like talking about other things. And this interview, it just is like, I just don't think that we care. There's like, there's other stuff that we're whipped into a frenzy about right now, Jen Shaw.
7:06Ben Mandelker: I'm sorry. Well, just to go through a little bit of it, Andy, went on his radio show and said um that he hates her no just kidding he said like he's he never wants to see her again on the show so how does she respond and this is from people by the way she said um that uh andy andy has a right to his opinion and without me being able to like talk to him or without me being able to even speak at the time of all you know like people rightly made their own judgments and had their own comments but like with the legal process and between pleading and sentencing you have to do so much work and i was just directed by counsel not to get blah blah blah she doesn't really give any interview and any answers in this interview they said um well you know heather mentioned your black guy she goes oh she sure did and we need to talk about that so okay so what's up with the black guy she's like well heather sure had a lot to say i'm sure gonna i need to call her i need to call her about that it's like why are you even doing this interview if you're not even going to address the black eye, that's like the least of your worries right now.
8:10But it would help me a lot if you would answer it. I would love it.
8:13Ben Mandelker: Yeah, that would be nice. And will she ever return to Salt Lake City? She's not ruling it out. She goes, I mean, never say never, right? I'm like, yeah, I don't know if that choice is in your hands right now, but that's very adorable. She goes, I appreciate the show and the time I had on it because it did afford me a platform that I wasn't able to have before. and I guess right now at this time, anything is possible. Like, you know what else is possible? A job at Yogurtland. Okay, because that's probably the future for you. Oh my God, at least give her a Yogurt Planet. I didn't even know there was a Yogurt Planet.
8:48Ben Mandelker: This is like Yogurt Galaxy next. Super Yogurt Galaxy. Yeah, I got a Yogurt Planet. Love it. Wow. It does smell a little like bar rot and sometimes like barf in there, but you know, kids love it. So what else? Um, something very serious. This is a very religious thing to post on a religious weekend. Taylor Frankie Paul is leaving the Mormon church. Is she still allowed in there? Isn't everybody kicked out after they do bad stuff? I thought that was the thing. They were like, ma 'am, you can't stay in this church anymore. You've tried to throw all the pews at people. So we're gonna have to ask you to leave.
9:26You threw the pew at one of your exes. So I'm sorry, you're not allowed. But she gave a long Instagram post where she was like, you know, like I'm still really religious, but like it's time for me to leave the church. Yeah, it's time. I'm out of here. The last 40 days felt like hell on earth. Through every panic attack, I prayed for strength as I could feel my body breaking down and out from the distress of it all. Imagine how those bar stools felt.
9:53Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Yeah. Seriously. Or the child that got hit by one of the bar stools. Yeah. So she's out of there. I mean, that could be interesting on the show, you know, because they're all, the show is so much about like, you know, we're the new face of Mormonism. This is the new Mormonism. Although one of them is a former, right? Isn't, is it What's Her Faith's? Jesse? Is Jesse former? They're all in different stages, I think, of breaking up with the church. Because they're, I mean, listen, I love the new stage of Mormonism because it's basically drinking, doing drugs. Most of them are coked out of their mind.
10:33Fucking swinging. What else do they do on that show that's really fun? Sodas. I mean, that's nothing bad. I love a soda shop. So really, they make Mormonism look fun again. I don't know why you would quit. You guys can finally do more than we can, than anybody, than any other religion. I mean, geez, who else gets to swing wasted?
10:52Ben Mandelker: Well, they're all on the path to outer darkness, and we wish them well. um uh the other thing that sort of related to that is that um i guess they had i guess hulu has to or had to edit dakota out of vanderpump villa um following domestic abuse things and uh yeah what a pain those poor post-production people those poor post-production people what a pain in the ass to have to do that and they have to go he's such a dingbat like he shouldn't have been there in the first place, to be honest. Well, they said in a statement, the producer said, well, he was in a storyline with somebody else and we thought it might just be better to cut it.
11:33So I don't know what that means. Like if he hooked up with somebody at the, what is it, a villa? What is it on that show? I don't know. We quit halfway through season one.
11:42Ben Mandelker: This season is in England. So maybe they're at a castle. Oh, welcome to the Vanderpump Villa Castle estate. Yeah, but people are saying, uh-oh this might have some not this vanderpump villa but they're saying uh this new news this new clip might have something to do with an incident that happened in february i guess between them i think that's when the other abuse incident happened where she was strangling him with a necklace allegedly right on oscar or something yeah because he we found out today he's he's been shooting a show i think it's a youtube thing but it's like some dating show on youtube where he's like hooking up with girls and stuff so like oh guess we found out what's going on with Dakota.
12:25You know, Dakota and Taylor need to stop dating other people because they're only putting other people at risk from each other.
12:32Ben Mandelker: Yeah, and I think that every time the cast of Real Housewives of Mormon Wives and Vanderpump Villa come together, bad things seem to be happening. So, why don't we just cross-pollinate a different Hulu show with Vanderpump Villa? I don't know. Why don't we put on like Project Runway at the Interbump Villa because I watched my Project Runway on Hulu that could be fun having like Christian Siriano coming to stay at the villa and like Nina Garcia she's like I like the room I like the beds I like the bar keeps I love the waiters I love the hookers I love the cobblestone Don't. So something super sad.
13:23I mean, sad. I guess it's sad because it involves children. So we should feel bad for the kids, even though there's Olsiak children. And we know that they're all going to be setting buildings on fire when they're of age. We all know it. And you guys say, I'm not being mean to kids. I'm being mean to these future adults who we know are going to cause taxpayers a lot of money. Okay. They're going to be setting cars on fire. They're going to be doing all sorts of shit because they're Kim's kids. But this week there was a lot of stuff coming out like, oh, my God, Kim might lose custody and Croy is suing for custody of the kids and stuff like that.
13:56So he did and she did lose custody. And it said she wouldn't get custody back until she went to therapy. And she came out with a statement, which was so Kim. Basically, they got taken because she was missing these therapies. She had to show up to therapy appointments to keep the kids. and she came out with a statement and i'm trying to see they don't have it in this article so i'm just gonna have to um make it up but it was something along the lines of okay let me just explain real quick like what's going on with me and my kids okay i did not lose custody of my kids like here's the thing i had to go to therapy but then the therapy dates were dates that i was out of the country shooting a reality show so how am i supposed to show up to therapy so you know i worked it out so i'm gonna go to therapy i'll get them kids back or whatever i should what a kim statement is that I couldn't make the therapy to keep my children because I was shooting a fucking reality show.
14:50Yeah. But I'll get it back. What?
14:53Ben Mandelker: I feel like she probably could have zoomed in. I'm just going to put that out there. I'm sure you could zoom in for your therapy. But also it's like, well, I could be on a reality show where I'm going to a pretend party with Margaret Joseph's and various other reality stars, or I could have my children in my house. I chose the party with Margaret. Yeah, basically. It's very Kim. So, you know, good luck to. Good luck to that. But I feel like that's the easiest obligation is to go to a therapy appointment. That's like all you have to do to keep your kids. And I have to imagine you should be able to Zoom in.
15:27Ben Mandelker: And if you can't Zoom in, I'm sure if you have an opportunity to go out of the country to get like work and to support your family, I'm sure you could like clear that with the courts or clear that with the therapist or whatever. I'm sure they would be amenable. I mean, I know bureaucracy is kind of bureaucracy and be like, you have to be here. but um i feel like there probably was a workaround and she just chose not to she probably just tried to do the around and not the workaround so uh yeah kim's actually she did the reach around not the workaround kim's also she's killing it she's just always killing it jesus it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial one thing i need in my life is a treat okay i love a treat.
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19:21speaking of real housewives r.i.p to the forever couple known as sigh and the guy that married
19:28Ben Mandelker: sigh they are broken up they're getting divorced so can i say i'm actually surprised by that one how did you feel when you saw that news i was a little bit surprised i was like huh and then i moved on um they seemed like a friend like they seem like friends you know they seem like a couple that would make it. I mean, I know that there was like all these allegations that she used to work for him as a bartender and then she lies and says they met on some vacation somewhere and no one buys it, you know, but I don't care. It doesn't mean you won't last. And I thought that they seemed like they had fun together and that they were friends.
20:03So I don't know. It's always hard for me when couples break up because I think being single until I die gives me this like view of other couples. Like I just want to believe in them. I don't believe in it for myself, but I believe in it for other people. It's like when I see religious people praying, I'm like, that's so nice. Like, I don't believe in it, but I'm like, I'm so glad you could find that peace. And with straight, you know, not straight people, but like with couples, I look at them and I think that's so nice. But, you know, that's not for me, but I'm so glad they could, you know, find that piece of ass or whatever.
20:36And so I always believe that couples are going to stay together. I really do. And then they just don't. And I'm hurt. I'm the one who's left hurt.
20:43Ben Mandelker: Well, you are the real victim here. And Debbie in the comments says, I don't think we saw enough of signed David to care. And I think that's actually very fair. Like we, we saw glimpses and they seemed happy. I think there were some little sarcastic jabs here or there, but like not enough. It's like, I have a vague memory of that. I feel like he made some joke about going somewhere for a vacation without her, but I don't, I don't remember. Like I try not to go back in that space, but she wrote a statement on her stories. she did not use the typical serious joint statement font she did not do like the like basically the my screen keeps on going to a full screen there's like an ad that keeps on taking over my entire screen it's driving me nuts she didn't use the typical Times New Roman font she went with that like italicized chunky almost like a bubble font but it's not and she's like thank you for the kindness the grace and support that so many of you have shown me.
21:41Ben Mandelker: I'm overwhelmed by all your messages and it truly means more than you ever know. You're like cheese at a party, something that I care deeply about. My heart is with my children and my focus is on giving them as much stability and love as possible. Living life publicly isn't always easy, but it's a reminder that we should all lead with compassion and you never really know what someone is navigating behind the scenes, especially if you don't show it on the reality show that you've been paid to do. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. That's too long for me to read from Cy, but you know, good luck to you. good luck to you crazy kids well at least she has a storyline for this coming season so that's something that i guess we can look forward to the well i can already tell you who's at fault i can already tell you who's at fault in this divorce aaron aaron somehow made this happen it's somehow aaron's fault i blame aaron so uh someone else who wants us to really have compassion this week is Janet Caperna.
22:35Guys, she's out there. And she's doing an interview with Us Weekly. And I don't know what the question was because they didn't show the question. They only show her answer. I'm assuming the question was, why do people hate your gut so intensely? What is that? I don't watch the show. So why do they hate your guts? Let's just pretend I've never met you. Why did they not ask her? Why are you always wearing brown or beige? I don't know. But they started with, why does everyone hate you? And she said, well, you know, Jason and I are very liberal people. And we're very vocal about being very liberal.
23:12And I think that people, you know, basically she's insinuating that only Trumpies, they hate her. Or it's because she's like such a good liberal that people don't like her. But then she followed up. Liberal people have TVs too.
23:30Ben Mandelker: But she explained what she was talking about. she said the question was actually about like why um it was really about like why don't danny and and um nia like like them why why things are bad she said actually the really what the question was about was about them and they were talking about like we like we're that was about danny and oh oh really it has nothing to do with you walking around going sexual assaulter sexual assaulter she said that the issue was that because Danny um never has never weighed on weighed in on anything publicly that was political and the only time that he ever did was when Charlie Kirk was killed and Danny like wrote something on Instagram and Jenna was like oh I see where you stand and she's like yeah I'm not down with that and like I don't think I can bridge with you because she's like I'm super liberal and I'm not going to be down for the Charlie Kirk of it all.
24:26Ben Mandelker: So she explained that that's when she was saying like, you know, like, well, we're liberal and some people like people are not going to like us. When she was saying some people, she was sort of saying, she was referring specifically to them according to Janet in the, in the followup. So Charlie Kirk has entered the Valley chat. She was using that as kind of a weapon against, well, she was doing the, well, some P I think she was saying, well, some people I'm not going to get along with because I'm too liberal. But it sounded like she was saying, well, some people are not liberal. And so they're not going to like me, but she was actually doing the, some people vibe, I guess, according to her.
25:04Ben Mandelker: But yeah, well, yeah. So it was great. So it was great when Charlie Kirk can liven up a Charlie Kirk is, he's lighting up Bravo this week because Jen, well, first I want to read this comment from Chelsea. I can't read Chelsea. Jesse, what does it say? Chelsea Jasmine. It says, Janet in all caps. Janet was a registered Republican when she lived in Ohio. It's public record. Thank you. So it's just another hypocritical. Well, I don't know. I mean, people can, people can grow and learn and decide to that. They like, oh, I don't know if I believe in this platform anymore. So I, that, that to me is not like a super damning thing.
25:40Ben Mandelker: I, in fact, I'm actually happy if she was and then became a Democrat and that's not bothered me at all. so someone said you're hurting her child hilarious um okay so uh i was gonna say charlie kirk really lit up bravo this week because uh jen pedranti's son uh was wearing some support charlie kirk shirt i don't know what it said but uh it's like some charlie kirk shirt and so they're all pissed are you all surprised that jennifer pedranti is a big charlie kirk she lives in orange county and her son joined the military and like what like why why are people surprised by this whatsoever you know the real surprise is that tamra was actually posting some really liberal stuff over the past week uh with no the no kings uh march she posted photos of her dad marching at like no kings she's like that's my dad and i think everyone's like wait tamra is a liberal because eddie seems very conservative coded.
26:38Ben Mandelker: I don't know what Eddie Stantz is. So people were, people were surprised that Tamara was liberal and then surprised that Jen Pedrante was conservative. So there you go. You don't know what Eddie Stantz is. Wasn't he wearing one of those black flag shirts last year? Yeah. Like a thin blue line or something. Very much so. And I don't know if he, I just don't know if he has publicly come out on what his political affiliation is. Well, this is Bravo. So like going after everybody, every single person's political affiliation is like gonna is it gonna be playing whack-a-mole basically i love this comment lmo i love ronnie still gets it wrong i don't even know what you're talking about but i support that comment look and then i mean like this is all a mess because then people are like um you know like jason defends corporations and workman's comps claims but then also janet went against zach and zach is super liberal but zach is also friends with michelle like it's like it's all over the map is he friends with michelle he's friends with jesse but the whole thing is all over he's friends with nia so like it's it's too it's just to be to be honest a lot of this stuff is actually when it comes to politics and it comes to like personal politics or whatever when it comes to reality tv there's actually so many nuances and um contradictions it's actually a bit hard to parse just like i think actually kind of casually honestly yeah look i just say all politics society an asshole's an asshole okay so keep shooting janet okay so what else is on here that you want to discuss um we should probably move to summer house pretty soon eh yeah i think it's time i think it's time i was like i'm ready for summer house i'm i'm like this has all been fun but i'm ready i'm ready like ben what do you want to talk about anyway um okay but you don't want to talk about politics anymore and how more charlie kirk stories charlie kirk stories they're great guys never gets anyone into trouble.
28:32Ben Mandelker: By the way, someone said, I'm a Dem Socialist and have friends who are pretty right-wing. And I'm only bringing this up because I thought it said, I'm a Dern Socialist, like a special type of socialist who is also into Laura Dern. So I got really excited. Speaking of which, Mayor Mom Donnie, this is a good transition, Mayor Mom Donnie of New York City, someone went up to him today and asked him to weigh in about the scandal, the Summer House scandal. And he was very play, he was very smiley. He was like, yeah, no, someone was trying to explain to me. I couldn't quite follow it. But he got enough to know that Sierra was a nurse.
29:10Ben Mandelker: He's like, well, she's a nurse and she's saving people. So team Sierra for that. I was like, smart. That's how you sort of sneak out of that. The reporter's like, okay, okay, okay, okay. But bro, bro, bro, bro, what do you think of Kyle Cook? He's like, don't know him. He's like, bro, bro, Loverboy's a good brand. All right, bro. All right, have a good day. bro oh my god yeah it doesn't know who kyle cook is oh poor kyle um yeah but uh it's now reaching what i'm about to say we've the scandal has now reached mayoral levels yeah uh next step the governorship um this week kyle was very casually walking his dogs I had no idea he was being going to be interviewed because Summerhouse is like the least subtle of all of the reality stars.
29:59I find he's like, yeah, I just happen to be walking my dog, bro. And so he did a three part interview, you know, while he was just walking the dogs. And while he was doing it, they were saying, you know, how is the rest of the friend group doing? And he's like, oh, you know, like, I'm trying to everybody. I mean, Kyle's a mess. Kyle's a mess or Carl's a mess. carl's a mess and so that turned into a new carl name carl's a mess so they because everyone was like why is carl a mess because he's carl of course carl's a mess cool it's a lot really hurt me really hurt me a lot i'm like really sad right now which turned into an uber eats ad with carl sobbing in his house and Lindsay's there patting his arm going, is this soft enough for you?
30:51Ben Mandelker: And they're like, Uber Eats. The scandal brought them back together. They filmed together. Actually, it was more like money. Money brought them together. But I'm glad that they understood the mission. They're like, we're going to put aside our differences to sell stuff for Uber Eats. I was like, good for you guys. Get your bag. Dumas was posting stuff. Dumas is posting something every day about this. And she posted something like, oh, Lindsay was at this kid's playscape. And she was overheard saying that the reunion is going to be on April 15th. And something else pretty non-scandalous. I mean, it was like, I saw Lindsay.
31:31I overheard her talking. She said the reunion is April 15th. Lindsay had a fit about it and went on Dumois and was commenting like, Um, this is not true. I was very busy at that place. And Jenna is like a very active and I was with my daughter and I never said that. And I don't even know if the reunion is going to be on the 15th. So then she, Lindsay will make herself the center of any story, which, you know, you got to handle it. She just got this Uber Eats thing. And then today she came on with this video. I'm showing her picture now. She came on with a video, basically two and a half minutes of what I just told you.
32:07But in two and a half minutes, like, I cannot believe that someone would say I said it was on the 15th. that it's not on the 15th. And then the only other thing that they asked me for was like whether Wes reached out to me. And he has not. But let me tell you, Jumma really loves to run and play. And I cannot believe people are, I'm so mad. I'm like, why are you so mad?
32:28Ben Mandelker: Why does she expect Wes to reach out to her? Where did that come from? Like, why would Wes reach out to Lindsay in any of this? I don't know. I think she was just answering the question and saying he hasn't reached out to her. I see. But this picture of Lindsay, this is a video. I have it playing without the sound. So if you can't hear the sound, it's by design. Doesn't Lindsay kind of look like Ramona Singer, like a young Ramona? Do you see it? Or is it just me? She's on the way. She's on the way. And I saw this and I immediately thought that. And I saw this on Reddit. That's obviously you can see the web address there.
33:05And someone said that. Oh, my God, this is Ramona Singer. And people were like, how dare you? Look, shame a woman. well who said Ramona's ugly I'm not like no one said she was ugly is that look shaming to say someone looks like Ramona Singer no and all those singers how dare you okay also you're like we're
33:24Ben Mandelker: watching Bravo together and we're consuming a Bravo scandal together and then suddenly we're gonna clutch our pearls about this I don't think so sorry even if it is look shaming I think there's worse I just think there's worse things in the world to get mad at us about so I don't care yeah ramona singer is ugly as hell but only on the inside i don't think it's ever been that she's attract unattractive but yeah ramona actually looks great to be honest jesus i'll have what she's having if that's ugly shame me shame me now avery um anyway the um what i was gonna say about carl damn the reason he says that is because ramona put this picture of her and avery up a few weeks ago we showed it on here i think and ramona is all airbrushed and looks 10 years old and avery looks like she's in her 30s you know which i think she is right and so she just looks kind of normal but ramona looks like she's 10 years old it's like why would you post this and why would you let your mother post this do you not have mother blocks on her phone where you have you need something where you can just enter the pin number you know to let her post stuff.
34:30Ben Mandelker: I know. By the way, though, like I still cannot get over the fact that Avery is 30 now. Like that's really difficult for me. Like she's locked in at 13 for me. But what I was going to say about, there was something else about this scandal that I was, that was something that was about Lindsay. Oh, you know, I was going to say about Kyle. What's so funny with Kyle is that when the rumors started happening and even when it broke, one of my first thoughts were, you know, But you think about like first, I think we all thought about the betrayal to Sierra. Like that was first and foremost. But then I thought like, wow, also, you know, he thinks secondarily of Kyle.
35:08Ben Mandelker: But then like when Kyle did his interview, I thought to myself, why did I ever think that Kyle would ever like, like, oh my God, wonder what Kyle must be so mad at us. Kyle literally, I don't think Kyle gives a shit. I think Kyle is just happy to have Amanda have his life. This makes him look better. and on top of that they there were uh the the paps caught uh kyle and amanda sort of reuniting i think that he's actually probably been really maybe helpful to her during this period because i don't think he's really that pissed he's probably like oh amanda i can't believe you did that you know but i think he's probably being someone that she can maybe who could be like um sympathetic to her right now uh not that she deserves or doesn't deserve sympathy but it's just sort of funny to me how i i can't believe for one moment i thought kyle would potentially be like a victim in this but he's actually totally someone like that's crazy man kyle got straight to the merch shop and started creating merch right away um righteous gemstone said kyle posted a picture of himself crying and the dog licking his tears lol oh i did not see that that's that's why we have to discuss this stuff only on crappy hour because it doesn't even matter how much of this shit i read all week you guys always have read 10 times more well um like one hour ago it's very exciting but like one hour ago sierra miller she released a cryptic response that everyone's like oh my god so um let's see i didn't even look at what the cryptic response was but it says the same much she's very private um there's an image of jesus a drawing of jesus with like a teddy bear uh behind jesus's back and Jesus is saying, just trust me.
36:50Ben Mandelker: And then the little girl that Jesus is talking to says, but I love it. God here. I'll just share.
37:01Is this some Christian thing that you just don't get? What is it? Send it over.
37:05Ben Mandelker: It makes more sense if I show it there. See? So basically the little girl has got like a little teddy bear and the little girl is like, I, I don't want to give this up because I love this. And Jesus is saying like, no, like Jesus is like, give me the little teddy bear because I'm about to give you something better. Like trust in Jesus and you'll get something better. Oh, I see. And she's like, no, I don't, but I love mine. He's like, no, I'll give you a bigger teddy bear. Yeah. So I guess it's like, don't hold on to something so much because something bigger is around the corner. Something like that.
37:39Yeah, but why does that little girl want that big ass teddy bear? That thing's going to crush her to death. Like, how is she going to carry that thing around? It's bigger than she is. I think Jesus really needs to rethink his teddy bear game because that's too big.
37:50Ben Mandelker: By the way, who is making the teddy bear that Jesus is giving away because they nailed it? Like they've got Jesus as like doing an influencer campaign for them. That's major. That's a big debt. Can I just say Jesus's hair looks so good. This is why he has so many followers.
38:08Ben Mandelker: He's doing great work. I just love it. do you think this question i put up 20 minutes ago but um e blaney 28 says do you all think kyle and amanda will get back together no no no no no no i think that like let's not forget like i think he was i think he's ready to move on i think that now he's probably had a taste the single life and he's like oh yeah tasting the single life for a decade what are you talking about guilt-free single life and i think he's like oh yeah dj let's have them fun and she probably also is like i think well i think she just she's got to go a little bit the raquel route of like doing some work on herself disappearing for a little bit and figuring out why she thought west was the next best option um so i don't think that they're gonna get back together by the way something that someone posted earlier this is what i wanted to say they said um they said uh sheener told kiki monique on her show that um whenever i text amanda she never texts me back but like whenever i text kyle he always texts me back
39:18anyway do you think they'll get back together uh ronnie i wouldn't be completely shocked if they didn't go through with the divorce i wouldn't be totally surprised if that happened I think that, you know, this has been such hell that she's probably just like, oh, I love you again. I mean, I don't know. But I wouldn't be shocked. I don't I hate I'm trying to not say I don't care. I really don't. I don't care if they do or not. But I wouldn't be surprised if they stayed together because they've got a lot tied up in their relationship. And I know these Bravo couples look at it like that. Like, well, we have the show.
39:54And then what are we going to do? And then what is our plot going to be for this thing? And, you know, Amanda likes to be at home. I don't know that Amanda's going to be into going out and dating and stuff, even though she's kind of just done that. But anyway, what is your favorite nickname that West has been given? Because there have been some fun ones.
40:12Ben Mandelker: The one that you just put up on the screen that I never heard until right this moment, West TV. That's so perfect. That is a very funny one. My favorite one I saw on Reddit, of course. I don't have the name. I don't know who coined it, but the first time I saw it, I don't know whose name that was, but they call him Midwest. And I love that. I think that's very creative. That's so good. That's so good. That's a good one. Commercials. Here comes one right now. Spring is giving fresh start vibes. Like suddenly you want to open the windows and drink more water and maybe act like you have your life together.
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43:17Okay, let's get back into some of these headlines.
43:21Ben Mandelker: I was going to say, are you going, meaning leaving Summer House? No, no, no, no. Just going through these Summer House. We've got a ton of Summer House things here. There's one from today that says, you know, Carl's a mess, but he's filming post Scamanda. What is Carl Radke filming? filming uh it's also hilarious because all these outlets are really grasping onto anything but carl posted a um a selfie uh with the green screen in the background so he's definitely filming something and i think that people were like is is summer house picking up the cameras is in the city picking up the cameras and we're trying to figure out what it's going to be i think it'd be on in the city because i think bravo will want to like move eyeballs over there i think i think um so yeah i think that's where if they do pick things up but then taste of reality you know taste reality I love you guys, but you guys gotta rein it in, because they have this question that they ask.
44:09Ben Mandelker: Could a soft bar spin-off be in Carl's future? No. We're not doing Vanderpump Rules at soft bar. It is not happening. It's physically impossible to make a good TV show about that place. Yeah. We haven't even been there, but no, they're not going to do it in a tiny coffee bar. I agree with you.
44:30I mean, who knows? I just can't see Carl leading a show. being like, oh, hey, we need to have a talk. Like, I saw the way you were making that latte, and, like, we really need to discuss it. Do you even know what a latte is? Tell me all the ingredients.
44:45Ben Mandelker: Villablanca is where you bring your wife, sir is where you bring your mistress, and softbar is where you bring someone to put your weight on them.
44:54I just love that everybody is going and making so much money off of this. Like, everybody is finding a way to profit off of it or do a commercial or sell merch or do whatever and meanwhile Sierra who's the center of all of it is like posting you know okay here's how you can help Girl Scouts in order to help like homeless shelters or something like that or you know she's just doing like all of this charity work and everybody else is just going to profit off of her back
45:22Ben Mandelker: I think they also learned from like Vanderpump Rules about like what to do and what not to do and how to do it I mean they all saw all the the swag that they sold for something about her and so I just think that like they're trying to figure it out Jesse Solomon now he's going on a press tour because he just released his new album or he's going to be releasing an album so he's doing he just recorded on Gia Judice's podcast and it's just that they released this video of the two of them just like singing their way through the hallways of iHeart and except not singing but lip singing to his song and I have to hear I gotta play it because it's just Play it.
46:03Play it. Play it. I've only watched it silent, and it was still horrible. So, Mike, you're okay.
46:08Ben Mandelker: I'm going to share. Let me share the screen. Okay. Okay. Sharing the screen, everyone. Window. Okay. Share. Oh, someone says Sierra did hook up with Kyle for merch. Oh, thank you, Amy. Okay. Everybody has got something to say. Nice. How do any of us figure out where we're meant to be? Guess I'll start being me. Doing things that make me happy like I think I'm supposed to be. Okay. It's awful. It's awful. I think I'll start being me. Who have you been? Who are you, Jesse Solomon? I think I'll start. Bing teeth. It's just like beyond terrible dental chair music. It's just the saddest, saddest music.
47:11Ben Mandelker: It's music that makes Michael Bublé go, ooh. It's a little boring. I'll just start being me. Oh, jeez. Oh, gosh. It's like a child's shampoo commercial. Like the shampoo won't make your child cry. Right, but the song will. Okay, so. It's like a song that would play on the hotel channel, you know? It's just not good. Not good. So some of the news that's come out, let's see here. This was from April 1st. Uh-oh, does that mean it's a lie? I hate April 1st. Fucking April Fool's. Just leave me alone. I fall for, like, literally every lie. It would say if it was April Fool's, right? Yeah. Okay. So West Wilson was in an exclusive relationship with another woman when he was in a secret romance with his Summer House co-star Amanda.
48:01Man, Amanda's already been cheated on again? Girl. According to our source, Wilson was actively dating Meija Moreno, who has publicly been referred to as Montana Girl as recently as last week. Moreno, who has since moved to the East Coast Has met and interacted with Wilson's family And close friends Well, we know that doesn't mean anything So did Sierra And the two became exclusive in the fall-winter of 2025 Wow
48:31Ben Mandelker: Yeah, well Man So he cheated on this girl and Amanda at the same time So there is official cheating that's happening But the sad part is just knowing how many more girls Are still going to throw themselves at West you just know it's gonna happen yeah and it's like he's got that bravo ass pass he does this is yeah there she is miss montana or her name is what's her name again montana they call her montana mejo i think it's me equal i don't know but that sounds like my son doesn't it me equal me equal me equal i don't know she said you pronounce it let's pronounce it let's pronounce it like a million times how does it what is it meha meha according to people in the comments Oh, Mija.
49:15Mija. Mija. Okay, sorry. Okay, look at her. Gorgeous. Look at him. Dork. I know. Look at her. Gorgeous. Come on.
49:25Ben Mandelker: He was wearing her tie. That tie, I think she got him that tie. And he was wearing that when he was on Watch What Happens Live two weeks ago, right before this all broke up. I believe she makes them or something. So she makes, she creates those, I read. So who knows, guys? Who knows? yeah yeah he's just what a pig i'm just like so dreading the reunion of him he's gonna be sitting there he'll be hunched over it'll be like i don't i mean i don't know really what happened but like you know when the heart wants something and you can only get shut down by cr so many times where you just have to like like go after what you want and like i'm sorry it hurt her but like i had to do it for me and like a certain point like why is it okay that she gets to look out for her own heart but I can't look out for my heart.
50:12Ben Mandelker: And I just, I don't know. I don't mean it that way. I just like, I just didn't, I don't know how to say it to her. I just like, she's scary. And like, I don't know what to do. Like, that's what's going to be the entire reunion. Right. Yeah. Entire reunion. Why? But she said she didn't like me and I didn't want to hurt her. So I fucked Amanda. Oh, Abby in the comments. Hmm. Oh, I was just gonna say real quickly, Abby from the comment says that he took Summerhouse off his IG account bio. you know i read that but i don't think he had it on there i think he only had he's only had at bravo on there and the only reason i think that is because i went there to look at that last year and i was like oh he doesn't have summer house on there but i don't know if that's a faulty memory and let me tell you something we can all agree on on this show i have a faulty memory it's true i don't remember anything so i don't know maybe that's true um wasn't there like a nude video that i heard that there was a nude video that was sent to sierra that was her and amanda and kyle hooking up no not amanda damn it amanda and west hooking up and i guess his apartment and someone videotaped it from another window and like that's what i heard posting in places what the hell and like what i heard was i mean there are all these different accounts which is crazy by the way people need to like have some standards in their lives but um i think the thing was that like uh they reached out and told sierra but they didn't send it to sierra because i think if like sending it is just like that could be like revenge porn um or something like that um so i think what i think the rumor that i read on one of these articles is that sierra met with this person and the person showed the video and sierra was like oh my god um oh my gosh but like why is sierra somehow obtained a video that allegedly showed amanda and west being intimate in his apartment this would be an upsetting way for anyone to find out what's more disturbing is that this video was supposedly recorded without the couple knowing yeah that's like you like uh who is doing this like that's i'm sorry i think that's like a total violation i mean i'll fuck with bravo watchers That's for sure.
52:24Ben Mandelker: I know that's, that's true. Clearly. I'm looking through this real quick to see if there are any final stories that we've missed here. I'm sure there's like a ton of them now, but it's time to go to audience participation time. So if you guys have anything that you want to tell us, share it with us in this audience participation moment, we'll bring you up on screen for everybody listening on audio. Thank you so much for being here. We love you guys. And we will talk to you next time. Bye. Watch what Crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alison King. Our way is the Amber way.
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