#3310 RHOA S17E02 Part Two: The Waffle Truth

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2:21Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens?

2:52Ronnie Karam: So the husband is saying, yeah, you know, Big Dave's cheesesteaks. I know more than you. And she's like, well, he, you know, that does do very well. And we don't have a prenup. So it's my business too, baby. And he's like, God, you're so dominant. Okay, look, I'm the only person that doesn't put up with your shit. And you're used to people flocking to whatever you have going on. She's like, no, I'm not. He's like, well, I humbled you. So there, we balanced each other out because I humbled you. Okay, get rid of Derek. first he's mansplaining mac and cheese and now he's spending the second portion of his first scene talking about how he humbled you get the fuck out of my house sir wow yeah um you know what's so funny is that I watched this scene but I didn't really listen to anything you said to me he was just like talking like also um I know last week she made a joke about how her husband eats meat and she's like i swore as a vegan i'd never marry someone who eats meat but like i think we didn't really understand how deep it goes i mean he literally has a a chain restaurant he owns a series of chain restaurants called dave's cheese steaks he's actually centered it's meat centered he not only eats meat he's actually building a career off of meat yeah she's a vegan i was like what is this like goop rom-com that they've got going on here.

4:18Ronnie Karam: I feel like this just doesn't work, this marriage. There, I sneeze on it. I sneeze on your marriage. I'm allergic to it. Look, he's arguing with her all the time. He's saying, I humbled you. Then she starts Slutty Vegan and he starts a meat business. I mean, this husband's not supportive. There, I said it. And she even says, she's like, you know, I had a lot of lonely nights. And he goes, yeah, you did. He goes, you didn't have lonely nights. She's like, well, you were beside me, but mentally I was alone. Like, do you really feel like you were there for me in my hardest time? And he's like, well, I was there for you as much as I could be there.

4:49Ronnie Karam: I had meat sweats the rest of the time. You're not familiar with those. Okay. So he's like, you know, I want, I wanted to be there. Because people can always say that, oh, he wasn't there for you. But like, I know that no marriage is easy. Most marriages don't work out. Anyway, but here we are. We always get through it every single time. All the time. Except at dinner. good luck at dinner so anyway starts a meat business to compete with your vegan business wasn't there for you at your hardest times this marriage is not going to work it's rough times I don't know who Dave is who's Dave he's Wendy's father he's getting it out there he's getting as many restaurants as he can Wendy's is like hey wait a minute Dave Thomas yeah it's dave um i went to the dave's big dave's way big dave's cheesesteaks taste affiliate i'm on their website and it's just like meat it's like big big close-ups of meat and melted cheese and there's pinky cole on the side too that she must love that she must love that her face is on the site.

6:05She's like, great. Great. Thank you.

6:09Ronnie Karam: Thank you for bringing me in this group photo. Discover Big Dave's Cheesecakes now with authentic Philly cheesesteak options. I'm looking for mac and cheese. Do they have mac and cheese? There better be a vegan option. They do have mac and cheese. It says Dave's sauce was great. The mac and cheese was hot. So now he's competing with her mac and cheese now as well. he has a veggie he has a veggie cheesesteak but no he doesn't have a vegan option on here you have to have you have to have one vegan option on here for your wife i'm sorry you should have a collab with slutty vegan hello wow what how do we like i mean like how are you not seeing this big days meat i mean branding that's the it's the name of the it's the uh theme of the episode so now we go to K.

6:57Ronnie Karam: Michelle and her husband and they're looking at a house and she tells us that they've been friends since junior high. They did it for 11 years, but he would never marry her. And she went into this situation saying she didn't want to be married. But then when he didn't do it, she was offended. So I left to show him who I was. And my husband was trying to come back and I said, you're going to do what you're supposed to do then. And he drilled my teeth and gave me a new cap and we got married. So she and Kasten are looking at this house, a very nice house. I like this house quite a bit, by the way.

7:33And she tells the realtor, Kasten, or tells us, Kasten popped the question because he didn't have any other choice. And then we see images. We see a video of them at their courthouse wedding and Kasten sitting there in the chair looking absolutely miserable. He looks like me sitting down for my driver's desk when I was 16. Like, oh, I don't want to be here. and uh he i'm like this is not a great sign shouldn't you be happy about marrying the love

8:01Ronnie Karam: of your life cast and no i don't know about these new husbands i mean this one she's like he didn't want to marry me but i forced him to what what the hell what are these this is not very romantic show okay it's not a very romantic thing but he seems to really like her he does but i also think that like i don't know i get nervous about these long-term non-committal guys and then like forcing them into getting married, they always, I think they always like cheat or falls apart. I just get scared for Kay. Scared for Kay. So she says, I can sit up here and give y 'all a fairy tale about how he loved me so much that he wanted to be with me and he just swept me off my feet.

8:37But no, baby, we sat around for 10 years, but we were on a breakup and then I was about to marry another man and he realized you got to pop up and let him know. Like, you're about to marry another guy. This feels very soap opera-y. Yeah. There's more going on here than what we can see,

8:53Ronnie Karam: right? I guess. I mean, I don't know. So then they look around the house and she keeps telling us he has a successful practice in Memphis, Tennessee with his dad. But now he's ready to transition to Atlanta. And she's like, you know what? I never understood. Hey, you be doing people's teeth and y 'all be having like doctors and their scrubs and their sausage always sitting on the top of their scrubs. What's that about? What dental practices is she going to? Just dicks hanging out? she's like yeah very much cassian sausage is one of the reasons why i married him and that you know you know that and he's understanding big dick and understanding yep well she's like well you just need to make sure your your sausage stays in your your pants and your scrubs because i ain't got time for none of that and she says that scrubs never give the support that's needed i mean you got old women laying back looking and they're like talking to talking to these dentists about there, man.

9:48Ronnie Karam: I can't understand how you can even talk when you're at the dentist. I mean, don't you got something in your mouth? Better not be my husband's sausage. It ain't that much. How are you able to see, are you able to even cruise a guy's dick at the dentist? You're always like up back and there's something in your mouth. You can't really move the suction thing in. The last thing you're doing is like craning your neck to check out the dentist's dick, but I don't know. Maybe I guess Kastan has a really big one that's worth the discomfort. So she says, she's talking about that. She has a son who's 21.

10:19She has a son who's 21. Okay. And she wants to have a girl, though, because she wants to have a mini her, which is funny because she's already kind of mini herself. She's already a mini version of her. But she wants to have a little K. Michelle. But she goes, but I'm struggling with infertility, and I'm trying to get my ovaries running. So now we go over to Shamia.

10:40Ronnie Karam: Can we just stop with the fertility story? Is this a Bravo thing that they had a meeting and they're like, listen, every single franchise needs to have somebody trying to have a baby. We need to have it, especially people with adult children. Let's just get everybody with an adult child to try and have a baby again. I don't know that I even believe all of them at this point. It's just a lot of people trying to have babies late and I don't know. I don't believe it. Although Kenya is the biggest classic from the show who did that when she had a baby when she was 50, right? Or somewhere around there.

11:16I mean, for sure, it's something that I imagine there's definitely a segment of the audience that deals with this.

11:22Ronnie Karam: Well, I know there's a lot of people doing it in real life. I'm not saying that. I'm just like, is this a Bravo thing that they're making them do it? Is it like a cold plunge where they're like, okay, here's what you can do this season. You can go on a cold plunge. You can be rumored to have an affair with a married man, or you can try and have a baby. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think that like the Bravo definitely does try to push this because I wonder if they do some sort of testing and they're like, oh, we found out that like a large portion of our audience is of a certain age and a lot of them are trying for babies.

11:58So I like this part of me that does feel like they are trying to connect with with people who are going through this and they probably have market research because it does seem like it's a lot. and um i think what's hard for me as a man is that i as a man who is no i mean everything we're men it's really hard you guys you don't understand guys being one of the most maligned demographics a white male it's just so hard for me um the real victim here the number one discriminated category um no but for real i think that like you know it's hard for me to connect to these storylines because it's just like not anything that's like relevant to my life at the moment so i just sort of like you know i try to like be cheery about them and understanding because they are very emotional and real things and i think actually like some of them hit i think a little harder like i think like quad storyline on married to medicine was very gut-wrenching because she was really torn up about it but then you watch bozes and to me bozes was like uh okay and like other ones megan king admins like but um yeah i i try i i quite frankly find them all to be quite boring because it's like i can't connect to it that was a long way around around to just say boring because they're and i try to consider it trying to be considerate because i know for some yeah it's probably it's very it's actually probably very helpful to be like i go through this too.

13:22It's great to see my story up on screen, yada, yada, yada. But like, would you all be interested if every season there was a story about someone who was trying really hard to make a galette? Cause I would love that, but I'm sure all the rest of you guys would be bored with it. Right?

13:36Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Or just like some cranky person who's really mad about like property taxes paying for schools that he doesn't go to or send children to. I mean, there's one. Do you like, like every episode it's like, I decided I'm going to track down a board game. that's hard to find. And it's like a 10 episode arc. And the audience is like, okay, this again. My storyline would be Old Navy, stop selling hoodies. And I'd be like, guys, this is the best season. But I'm not trying to minimize, obviously, like it's a real, it's a real - No, I mean, I know it's a thing that happens in real life. I'm just saying that I'm not talking about you or your real life.

14:10Ronnie Karam: Anybody who's out there like, oh, well, how dare you? I'm not talking about you. I'm saying on Housewives, it's starting to seem a little forced. Like they have the story storyline so much that I don't necessarily believe it. Like, I don't really believe Bose, like Bose's doesn't seem that realistic to me. I don't know. I just don't, I don't know. I don't always believe it. Wait, I just want to say one thing. I just want to say just one last thing. I believe that the storylines are real because it costs a lot of money to do the things that they're doing, but it does feel like Bravo has been pushing this for ages.

14:42And I'm just at least grateful that we're past the taking care of a doll doll for a weekend phase that was on all the branches.

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16:37Ronnie Karam: So then we go to Shumia coming to Kelly. restaurant and um kelly's like oh my god it's been a morning lamont just texted me like hey i don't know if you know this but oh my hat my ex-husband just did an interview with tasha k and she's like oh my god sit down tasha stop it stop it not tasha k tasha k so tasha k yeah yeah so lamont is doing an interview with tasha k or as i like to call her to shock and um angela Angela walks and she's like hi everyone why did I interrupt? Kelly's like my ex just did an interview with Tasha K and Kelly says the fact that he would go on a distasteful blog although it doesn't surprise me it still hurts me my divorce was final September 2024 and I really just want to put it behind me okay I want to say this too I am 100 % on team Kelly when it comes to her awful ex he is a piece of shit garbage he's terrible terrible terrible terrible and like It just seems like by all accounts, he is just a shitty person and just garbage and just get out of it.

17:44Just finish this. Stop dragging your ex through hell. Let her live her life. Stop being terrible. Awful. I will also say, Kelly, you did also have a full-on season of being on national TV where you got to say your piece. And I'm not saying, oh, it should be equal time. But I'm like, just let him do his stupid blog. Move on. Be above it. You've got a whole national TV. You've got a whole audience. It's okay.

18:09Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I don't know what he said on this blog, though. God knows. But yeah, so Kelly's like, you know, I just wish you would get a life and leave me alone. And Angela says, I can't stand a man who talks too much. You're just a bitch. These are bitch qualities. And Shamia says, you know, God is blessing and the devil is messing. Oh, my God. I love that one. It rhymes. I'm a singer. I'm a singer. So, yeah. I'm speaking lyrics. You see. so they shop around and talk about businesses and kelly's like well my finances are getting better i mean they're getting they're getting better okay listen audience the debt is debting okay i mean there's lawsuits and all these blogs about me owing rent on a restaurant that wasn't even open and i was ready to walk away and say maybe this isn't what i'm supposed to do but hey we've got enough to open for two weeks and we're gonna do it yeah so she's uh she has It's like all this debt.

19:04And yeah, she's, and poor Cha-Cha. She's been, she has so much debt that Cha-Cha has not been able to get her hair done in months. She unfortunately has just been stuck with that crazy pink hair for a very long time. So they're talking about this.

19:19Ronnie Karam: Well, I was going to say that dog has had its hair done. I just saw the dog and it is pink still and has curled hair. So I guess she's doing it by herself. I don't know. I just, someone has to save that dog. I understand the reason why it's pink. Because for those who don't remember, I think Cha-Cha or a previous dog was abducted at one point. And so now she always... I forgot about that. Dyes its hair. Cha-Cha was abducted. So now she painted pink so she can find it more easily, I guess. Cha-Cha was not abducted. Cha-Cha ran away. Cha-Cha ran away from pink. Cha-Cha's talking to Cha-Cha K. Cha-Cha's like, here's the real deal with my mom.

19:58so Angela's like well of course I'm going to be there I'm going to try to eat some chicken and waffles even if her and I fight down the line the fact is still remains that her food is top tier so Shamia's like by the way have you taken time to process the stuff that Drew went back and had a conversation with Phaedra about because she kind of blew it over at the party right and they're like okay well Drew did tell me that she spoke to Phaedra and I did process it and you know it is what it is i'm not going to get involved in this angela's not interested in getting on

20:32Ronnie Karam: shamiya's side yeah she's like yeah i don't know why shamiya wants me and drew to have an issue but she's trying to get a reaction and um she's shemessy she's shemessy so kelly says she tells them about going out for tea and then p being like uh yeah you're banging married guys and um you know you strive to be so perfect but you're sleeping with married men and shamiya's like no she didn't she goes yes and i it went right back to the dirty tea and so i'm like wait a minute horsha they're like you said that she goes no but i could have said it i'm saying it now like no no when you leave the fight you're like and then this is what i said and then everybody stood up and they applauded me this is the same person who walked into another woman's house went to the pool gave her a hug, shook her husband's hand, and then turned around and married him, which is true.

21:24So then Kelly tells us, horse-a, horse-a, horse-a, horse-a, horse-a, horse-a, horse-a, horse-a, horse-a, horse-a, horse-a, horse-a, horse-a, horse-a, like, you get, okay, you made a funny line, let's not, like, let me beat a dead horse, that's my job on this podcast, but you, you're on TV, you gotta keep it together a little bit longer.

21:43Ronnie Karam: And then I said, oh, you wanna give me a hug now, like you did with Drew? And, you know, This is typical when we fight with somebody and then we make it, we make ourselves the hero afterwards. And we're like, and then I said, and then I said, Kelly, you didn't though. You sat there and you were like, um, okay, let it go. And then you got mad after, which I don't necessarily blame you, but your story, your, your storytelling leaves a little to be desired. So Shami is like, well, there's no way I would hug her, but I know Portia. like you had to deescalate that situation because God knows what Portia would do if you didn't deescalate.

22:22Angela asks if Kelly's going to invite Portia to the opening and she's like, well, of course I am, but she's going to pay for her own food. She's like, of course I'm going to invite the biggest star in the franchise to my opening. Like, duh. So now we go to Drew's movie premiere and she walks in with Claudia Jordan, former Real Housewife of Atlanta. I was honestly so happy to see her on the screen. I just, I want her to come back. I've waited so many years. Yeah, I really think, I really would like Claudia to come back on the show. I think she's really good. I, first of all, I love her accent.

22:54She has, I don't know where she's from originally, but she has sort of a fun accent. And I just think like her personal story wasn't like amazing, but I just, I just love how she can just stand on her own. I don't really remember Claudia.

23:07Ronnie Karam: I remember that she fought with Nini and that was pretty funny because it was very rare to see somebody fight back with Nini at that time. So that was pretty fun. And I remember that she got a condo. Remember that's when we learned what edges were, when she's like, you have no edges. We're like, so she means Nini's lost her edge. She's like not as sharp as she used to be. God, we're so sad. We're sad people. And we're up here now saying, this is what dirty tea means. So yeah. Just that's all I remember was her fighting with Nini and then she got a condo and then she got fired. Yeah, probably because she fought with Nini.

23:51So Drew tells us, it's been fun in the studio, but now that the album's out and it's doing great, it's number 16 on the Myanmar top adult contemporary charts. It's time to get back to making some money because let's be honest, my divorce is taking all of my money. So the acting allows me to pay the bills, take care of my kids. It's my bread and butter. This is the kickoff premiere of my new movie, Run. It's an African-American woman ensemble, but it's not about me and my house. It's about running from an alien. And it's very rare to see us in the space of sci-fi. And it's really, it's a representation of a woman of color doing their thing.

24:32The villain and this is the truth.

24:35Ronnie Karam: My character runs from it constantly. Thank you. Drew Sidora. I'm running from the person who I owe cash to for partnering me with Drop It Like Drew. Thank you. So, Angela, they all are showing up. Drop It Like Drew. Oh, my gosh. God. And she refused to run. And that's when she had a fitness company. Drop It With Drew. She was like, I'm not going to run. But now it's a movie and you'll run. Yeah. She should have gotten that alien into her program. She's like, alien, I know you want to kill me. That alien needs to be heavy. But you thought about dropping 60 pounds. Yeah, the alien already did it.

25:10Ronnie Karam: It got free drop it with Drew. It was heavy when the movie started. By the end, it was like very, it was very thin, very thin alien. So I don't know. I'm like amused because it's just like, I don't know. They're all like, they're in like this big mom cineplex and they're all coming up an escalator, which is look, I've never had a movie premiere. I think it'd be awesome. Even if I were in some low budget crap, like Drew is in, like that would be super cool. but for some reason they're like this show like just on the real anytime the real housewives they go to a fancy event at the mall it just cracks me up like i cracked up when eileen davidson had her movie premiere at the burbank film festival and that was a amc next they were stepping on like shower rugs for the red carpet it's like something about like the glamour the faux glamour of a real housewife being undercut by like the stickiness of like pools of pepsi on the red on the carpet, the actual red carpet there.

26:04It's so funny to me.

26:06Ronnie Karam: So Angela and Phaedra come and talk about how they're going to be supportive of their girl. And Angela's saying, you know, the fact that Phaedra's continued to deny any involvement with the person from Kelly's event, I just, I had to re-evaluate my own stance. I mean, if she's just denying it to this degree. So she questions Phaedra again. She's like, okay, let me ask you, did you send those people at Kelly's event? and she's like absolutely not okay you know what then i apologize uh because that was a bunch of bs so i apologize she goes well thank you angela that was the weirdest thing i ever saw in my life i mean we were both tripped out i have no idea who that person was but no one will be following you home tonight i have a feeling so you're safe now don't worry about angela's like why am i going after a fan favorite.

26:58I'm a fan favorite. She's a fan favorite. We can come together and go after someone like Drew or Shamia. Why not? So she's basically like, yeah, I hope this opens the door for us to be friends. Phaedra's like, sure. Okay. She's like, finally, I'm getting an apology from Angela. I'm glad that we've moved past this crazy. Maybe she'll find out who really did it now.

27:19Ronnie Karam: No one has ever sounded guiltier than that. Like, oh, I hope we can find the real murderers. Yeah. It was you, Phaedra. We all know. It's like every mystery. They're like, why are you concentrating on me? The real murderer is still out there. So now Portia comes with Sway. And everyone's like, oh my gosh. And she's like, hi, everybody. This is my lady friend, Sway. I'm what you call dating. I'm in uncharted waters. You could just call me Christopher Columbus. Sure. Sway, not to be confused with Sway from MTV. A different Sway. and Drew is like, if Portia and I can get over our differences and be back in this really good place, then we are the examples honey and I am happy to see Angela and Phaedra turn over a new leaf and then Drew is, they're like toasting everything and Sway goes to get them all tequila and then Drew's like, wait a second what's going on Portia?

28:17She goes, oh it's date night, I'm dating! She goes, but where's Angela's like, but where's Mr. Bless? And we see that we see what's his face, Mike, whatever from last week. Porsche's like, oh, it's casual, you know. I'm like, no, it's not casual. It's just paid for. Okay, we know. He was brought in for the first episode and Sway is your true lady love.

28:38Ronnie Karam: So Phaedra's like, oh, Porsche's a free spirit. You know, if they got the capital, if you got the person for the money, you got the money for the person. Bah! She starts cracking up. And Angela says, Porsche's just fluid and that's hot. and Portia's saying, you know, everybody has a lot to say about me being with women in the past. And, well, shit, I had a lot to say about me being with women in the past too because it was the worst kept secret. But I was with women and now I'm with a woman. But this is the first woman I've dated, okay? But I still have dipped my toes and feet and hands in the lady pond.

29:18Just a reminder that Kim Zolciak walked so Portia could fly.

29:24Ronnie Karam: and then we get a clip of candy being like and you wanted to eat my pussy in the sex dungeon or whatever my pussy who is like did you guys meet here whatever she's like whatever they're just talking about it portia's like um you know portia's saying like you know whatever the truth is like that's that's for her to tell okay that's that's that's for you to find out so uh angela and pager are still talking and Angela's like, so I talked to Kelly and she told me that her and Portia kind of had words and Portia said that Kelly was sleeping with a married man. And Portia's like, what? What? Huh? What?

30:00Huh? What? Huh? Huh? And Fradier, of course, is like, oh, well, she just told me that you and Kelly got into it or something. She's like, well, Kelly told me that you said she was sleeping with a married man. And Portia basically Angela's like, yeah, she called you Portia.

30:17Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I like when Portia what i walked out to porsche walks up and goes why are your eyebrows up um so she's like i don't know why she's talking about me because it was awkward for a minute but then we hugged it out and it was done and she's like yeah she called you or she goes well then she's a fake ass bitch because honestly once we finished the conversation we were done no you were done you just you just dropped that on somebody and then hugged and walked away what the hell so she's like you know i'm i'm surprised that she would even confide in angela i mean didn't her neck hurt looking up that was so shady didn't her neck hurt when she was doing that oh my god i cracked up or she's like well i guess i'll see her again we can finish the conversation and she's well you got the invitation to nana's waffle and chicken yeah but i'm not going you call me a horse it's childish it's beneath me y 'all enjoy friday i'm like i wouldn't skip out on free chicken waffles personally but that's fine um i don't think they are free though because she said porsche is gonna have to pay for hers but and i thought okay well that's a joke but then at the end she said so porsche sent me flowers well sorry flowers don't pay the bills come in here and buy something so were you charging people at your opening that's crazy she might have been like a cash bars better up than it yes so uh now they all go into the they all go into sit and watch the uh watch this movie and drew is like i'm not playing any games we've got aliens we've got cgi i did my own stunt work it's like drew in like a station wagon and a guy in some like party city like spirit Halloween alien costume outside the car window like boogeyman voices like really it's like the stranger things guy and uh funniest alien it's so it's so low rent and drew is like and then she just goes running away and then like she's acting like she jumped from building to building and like swang from like a rope dangling from a from a helicopter with her own stunts it's Like you, you fell on the ground.

32:28Ronnie Karam: You ran to a car. And the producer was like, but you died in the first 10 minutes. And she goes, wait, hold on now. I didn't die in the first 10 minutes. I put up a good fine and we don't know if I'm dead anyway. Let's wait till the sequel. You don't know that I'm dead. So you're dead. When I. You made everyone sit through this whole movie and you died in the first 10 minutes. I did crack out though. Cause when I Googled the movie, I watched the start of the preview. and it's so funny. It's like, you see like a spaceship and you see something in space and then you hear the news and the news is like, they've come.

33:05Ronnie Karam: And we have confirmed that the big discs over the city are in fact, alien ships. And then you just see all these girls walking into this cabin. They rent in there like girls weekend. That is so fucking funny. And it's so true to life too. I mean, I know it's just a cheesy movie, but the world's falling down around us and we're just like, okay, are we going on girls weekend this weekend oh my god i can't wait

33:32oh my god that's amazing and what and i'm looking at um i'm looking at who else in the cast marcus marcus houston is in it wasn't he in what's it called that you're really selling it he was on sister sister he was in b2k right b2k kind of what i think i have to watch this movie

33:52Ronnie Karam: now okay tell me how it is so um they're all giving reviews on the on the movie they're watching and phaedra's like everybody knows black people always die in the in the first in the movie but it seems a little strange because drew is from chicago and everyone knows chicago is shoot first ask questions later it's like the movie i know shoot first write a script later oh my god Drew says, I am in great company. Jada Pinkett died in the first 10 minutes of Scream 2. Drew Barrymore, she died in the opening scene. Did I die? Do we know if I died? We'll see. I'm like, lady, you're dead. Look, Drew Sedora has a legitimate IMDB, and she has acted for years and years.

34:45I'm not going to be like she's not an actress, but let's not act like you being in this movie is putting you on the same tier as like the Scream franchise. And I like that that's the only horror movie that she's seen.

34:57Ronnie Karam: She's like, look, look at all the people that have died. Scream, scream, scream, scream. There were nine screams, right? How many screams were there? So then they leave the movie and they're joking about double dating, going on double dates with Portia. And Angela says, well, she has a boyfriend. And Drew's like, no, that's my friend, guy. It's my friend. And Phaedra says, the telephone man. Phaedra says, I'm just trying to soak all of this up because my girls came out to support me. Phaedra, Angela, and Portia. I mean, we may have our differences. But, you know, I really feel like in this group, we can get over anything.

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37:08Ronnie Karam: and now kelly has a meeting with lamont about the restaurant uh because they're setting up the event and um she's stressed because you know she's broken stuff and so she's like remember you know when we were opening this place and you know you were like why are you getting this rat hole i thought oh god it's gonna be so great and you're like why please don't do it and i was like no it's gonna be great you said you're gonna lose everything and i was like it's gonna be great Well, here we are with some balloons and an air thing to blow with the balloons. I mean, it's going great, right? He's like, you're losing everything.

37:43Ronnie Karam: So then we come to the grand open. Well, she talks about all the debts and how inspectors, things like that. They did get an A. The health inspector will not stop coming by. They just keep showing up. They're like, hey, guess what? We don't have a lot going on here in Shady Springs. so we're here to do another health inspection. They just want to meet a Porsche. They're like, we're back again to check the stove and is Porsche here? Can we get a selfie with Porsche? No. Okay, we're back in three hours. Yeah, so she did get an A, which is pretty good. And so she's going to do this to continue keeping her family, you know, financially stable or whatever.

38:25Ronnie Karam: So now it's the opening time. All the girls are coming. Shamia's mom and dad come and Drew's saying last year me and Shamia had an issue with Shamia had an issue with me because I had an issue with Portia and Portia had an issue with me but I don't have any beef with Shamia at all at all and Shamia's mom basically basically says like hey by the way if you guys are mean I'm gonna show up I'm bringing my paddle you guys be careful so Cynthia arrives Phaedra shows up. Everyone's hugging Shamia. Everyone's saying hi and everything. And Shamia is just like, Shamia is visibly unhappy with the fact that Angela and Phaedra are okay.

39:09And Shamia's like, I'm just like, I'm so proud of how fast we can all move on from stuff. I just felt like last year when I was trying to, you know, sweep stuff under the rug and move on, it was like, no. And you guys all wanted me to handle my beef with Portia in front of the group. And you all didn't squash it in front of me and you know like I want to see like what did you guys talk about like how'd you get the bottom of it like make it make sense I'm like Shamia you're saying that you Shamia's whole thing is like I tried to I tried to just move forward last year you guys wouldn't let me but now you guys are moving forward like have you moved forward if your evidence for how you've moved forward is that you're bringing up last year you're literally not you're literally going back as you're proclaiming that you were like the trendsetter of moving forward but it's also rewriting history because

39:54Ronnie Karam: she was not trying to sweep things under the rug last year. That's not what it was. Last year, everybody was saying you're constantly kissing Portia's ass and fighting Portia's battles for her. Not that you were sweeping things under the rug. Then, when you didn't like that, you started all this beef with Portia so that you could show the ladies that you were not, in fact, just Portia's lapdog or whatever. So you did that just to start a fight with Portia, and Portia didn't even know she was in a fight with you until the end of the year when stuff started to come out that you were saying behind her back.

40:25Ronnie Karam: So stop trying to make it like there was all this terrible stuff that you were trying to sweep under the rug. You were lifting the rug up and trying to find dirt under there to use against somebody who was your friend. She was being ridiculous last year. I can't with this. And now she's mad that everyone else was making up. So Drew's like, well, she said something key, sweeping it under the rug. And now we've learned, and you've learned, you can't sweep it under the rug. You just can't do that. And Angela says, I don't feel like I'm sweeping things under the rug. Phaedra and I had an adult conversation and we're moving on.

40:59Shamia, don't get mad because you can't do the same. So Shamia's like, oh, I definitely learned that I can't sweep it under the rug. I just want to make sure everybody else knows they can't either. It's like, quiet, Shamia. Everyone's moving forward except for you right now. So you just have to deal with it. Kay Michelle is not there, by the way, because she is doing her Nashville performance. And we will hear more about that later. so Kelly shows up and everyone's like we cheers thank you thank you oh my god I made it the finish line thank you girls and so she and Pinky have a moment on the side where Pinky's like look I know I left you on red but I didn't mean to and I just want to support you women supporting women yada yada yada anyway I'm so excited for you to go through your first closure it's going to be so special for you yeah

41:46Ronnie Karam: she's like we're both women in the restaurant business and it's terrifying and it's breaking us. So good luck, whatever you need from me. And she's like, well, it hurt my feelings when you kept me on read. She goes, well, okay, I'm, I will not do that again. I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you. So it was sweet. And then Kelly gives a speech and she's like, wow, thanks to everybody who came out today. It's been a journey and a struggle trying to get the restaurant open, you know, from work to people making podcasts and telling lies and everything's been coming at me this can i just eat my waffle like yeah i know do we need to have this opening is this also can we like not act like you are mad max and you just got to the end of like fury road like everyone was coming at me but i did it it's like you opened up a waffle shop like let's relax um so drew is like oh by the way did you see the flowers from porsche And so there are these really nice flowers and there's a note to it that says, congratulations, Kelly.

42:47And then it says, P.S. need to talk. Who writes need to talk on the congratulations flowers?

42:54Ronnie Karam: I don't know. I'm sensing a little shade, Kelly. And so the waiter comes by and he's like, do you want me to move these flowers? And she's like, just get them out of here. So she says, yeah, well, we talked. and she said, well, you're not as perfect as many think you are because you're also out here sleeping with other people's husbands. And I'm like, what? And she's like, what? And I said, no, I'm not. And she said, yes, you are. And I said, no, I didn't. And she said, yes, you did. It went on like that for about half an hour. And Pinky's like, oh, my God, was he cute at least?

43:29She's like, I would be mad as hell. So Cynthia's like, well, I mean, if you're having sex with a married man, the last two people need to be thinking about are Portia and Dennis. You need to be thinking about the wife. That was Cynthia's contribution to the episode. So Kelly is like, let's be very clear. I don't want nobody's husband, but I am going to find me a new one, okay? So then she goes and gets them food and Shamia is just like, you know, upping her. She's like, wow, listen, Kelly, she is my bitch. My bitch is a boss. Yes, they've got not one but two locations. Here, let me mime out what it was like for me to eat the food.

44:15Oh, no, Shamia, please don't do another bit. Please don't.

44:20Ronnie Karam: Shamia's mime theater. So Cynthia's asking Pinky about her veganism and how that works, basically. She's like, do you eat this? No, that's chicken. So you don't eat chicken? Vegans don't eat chicken? Nope. No, vegans don't eat chicken. Do you want some cheese at least? Yep, we don't eat that. Okay. So you don't eat potatoes, right? We do eat potatoes. Vegans eat potatoes? We do. We do. Okay. What about this? But not chicken? That's the chicken again. That's the chicken again. But Mr. Potato was a person. So it's okay to eat people, but not chickens? I'm very confused. What about steak? That's like the epitome of what we don't eat.

45:03Okay.

45:04Ronnie Karam: but you can eat cheesesteak right because cheesesteak is made out of cheese okay cheesesteak is not made out of cheese and i don't eat cheese either but you're a vegan exactly you don't eat cauliflower though right no that's i do eat cauliflower but it's a flower and that's a living thing um so drew's like well i don't know what's in this chicken but one thing i can say about kelly she knows how to fry pinkies is pinkies definitely missing out okay so now Now Cynthia calls Portia and they put her on speaker phone and Cynthia's like, Portia, I'm sitting here behind beside Phaedra. So say hi to her.

45:42Ronnie Karam: And Angela's like, you should be here, Portia. Kelly goes, well, she wants to know what's happening. She should have been here instead of being on the phone. And Angela, so they're passing the phone around. They eventually pass this phone to Kelly. He goes like, oh, hello, Miss Williams. And Portia goes, oh, congratulations, Waffle Queen. She goes, oh, thank you so much. is that really a congratulations because where are you she's oh yeah well I put my money where my mouth is so I sent you some flowers because oh the flowers are broke all up child oh my god what happened to them well broken flowers from a broken person like Kelly you're the one who called her Horsha but like I get that Kelly wasn't I get that Kelly wasn't resolved after the dirty tea luncheon and that's fine but you called her Horsha behind her back.

46:31Portia found out and now you're upset at Portia for being upset that you called her Horsha. And I understand that you're also upset that she accused you of sleeping with a married person. But like, you did call her Horsha behind her back. Like, you have to acknowledge that you are going and saying things behind Portia's back.

46:50Ronnie Karam: And you also started the you also said the sleeping with married men thing first, whether you were right or not. Right. That's what I'm saying. You're saying stuff behind Portia's back and Portia's having a negative reaction to it. And then you're acting like you're the victim here. Yeah. So Andrew Angela was like, well, she should just say Horsha to her face, you know? And then Kelly was like, just take those flowers and shove them up your ass. And Kelly's saying, fuck those flowers. I could care less. You want to support me? No matter how, no matter how that makes you feel, then you'd be here.

47:20Ronnie Karam: Come buy something. I don't want these goddamn flowers. Flowers aren't going to pay the bills. And that's when I was like, So people are paying for this because I'd be pissed. Yeah. So now everybody is leaving things over and Shamia is talking to true. And Shamia is like, oh, I can't wait to see your movie, even though you didn't invite me. But I would love to see. And why would she invite you? Yeah. You guys are on a different level this season. Shamia and Kelly. Like, you're acting like you're so surprised that people don't like you. You came for them. So Drew's like, well, we haven't been talking, you know, and I mean, it should be genuine, right?

47:54Ronnie Karam: Only genuine people get to watch Run. Right. It's a very exclusive. Only about 20 people are going to see it. So I need to make sure I really like all 20. Shamia goes, well, I'm just teasing. It's like, you are not teasing, Shamia. You are really upset. Drew's like, well, you said some hurtful things. She goes, well, you have two, Drew. So they start to argue. And then Shamia's mom comes over. And her mom is like, all right, stop it. And her mom literally has the face of a mom who's talking to two six-year-olds that are fighting in the backyard. She's like, stop it, both of you. And she's like, I don't mean to hurt your feelings.

48:30If I ever lend an apology, it's coming from a real place. And she goes, my previous apology was genuine. I mean, I was really genuine. And that takes a lot of energy to do that. And I move on from things. I'm able to truly forgive. Do you move on? Because you just complained about how no one let you move on last year, which was inherently an example of how you did not move on. so um the mom is like no you have to the mom is giving a speech she's like these these girls need

48:57Ronnie Karam: to come together through thick and thin she like gives this big speech i'm like call porsche's mom speech lady okay you call porsche's mom i want to hear that play out i need some mom drama on this show so shamiya is saying her apology was genuine with everybody it was a youtube apology shamiya There is nothing less genuine than a YouTube apology. I can't with that. And she's like, and you know, who has it in their heart to keep disliking somebody? You still don't like Portia and you're still, you're still coming in shady with Drew. So you, have you met a real Housewives fan? Like when we get a grudge.

49:33Yeah. That's going to go on for 12 years. I'll tell you. We pick our sides.

49:39Ronnie Karam: So we see a clip of Michelle honoring, you know, doing her honoring speech or whatever at the country music things. And then the next day she calls her husband and she's in a hospital room. We hear sirens. And she's like, hey, Kistan, it's me. I might be in the hospital when you call, but please, please get here as soon as you can. So now she's saying that yesterday I went for the red carpet and billboard, the record label, being on stage to now. I'm an open wound, literally. So the doctor comes in and he's like, basically where you previously had surgery is now infected. Yeah. And what basically what happened was she was, she was backstage in a robe about to go on stage and she was, she was sitting on a sofa and she stood up and like, there was like a puddle of wetness, which is, that's like gotta be terrifying.

50:32Like something like that happens and you know, you've got to go out on stage and you're trying to make a splash in, a room of like you're trying to you're trying to like make a splash in an area that you're not established and has not always been super friendly to like people of color and like you've got all this stuff already weighing on you and then on top of that you're like infected in the booty I mean I felt so bad for her when she told this story I was like that this must have been awful for her yeah so she

51:01Ronnie Karam: starts crying and she's like oh my god I'm just this sucks because I did this to myself. And she says that she got her body done trying to get a butt that she already had. And she got illegal silicone injections trying to overdo it and expand her butt. And then basically, I guess it got infected. Yikes. Yeah, that's harsh. And she's really like upset about it. And I feel bad for her. But that's actually where it ends. on like this scary sad note of an otherwise very funny and silly episode. So yeah. Okay. Well, hopefully that was it. Yeah. Supersized Atlanta. All right, everybody. Thanks so much for being here.

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