#3335 RHOA S17E04 Part Two: Vegan Beef

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2:13It's when there's so much that happens.

2:18Ronnie Karam: Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Happens. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show. The workout is done. And so then they're all like an hour later, they're all sitting there, you know, drenched. if you will and portia is like um just like you know i don't ever want to speak to you but at the same time i think you're all doing you're all doing good you know or do you guys are good you and you and uh phaedra because she's talking to angela and angela's like yeah we have it all hashed out we just realized we're both fan favorites and we should just be on the same side so we're you know we went and had heralds together and uh angela says you know i'm the bigger person I apologized, but you best believe.

3:11Ronnie Karam: Don't get it twisted. I haven't forgotten a thing. Yeah, watch out. So Portia's saying how she was hanging out with Kay, and they were talking about Pinky, and Pinky was saying that she has an issue with Phaedra. And Phaedra's like, what? Me? I've known Pinky for 15 years. And we find out this is about the meat thing because the rumor has been going around that Phaedra's been telling people that Pinky eats meat. Yes. So Phaedra's like, when did I say she ate meat? And Angela is like, Shamia said you said she used to have a rib joint. She goes, but she did have a rib joint. And Angela's like, well, but she's not real if she's eating meat in the closet.

3:58Ronnie Karam: They're all laughing. And she's like, wait, but I said she's not real if she eats meat. I didn't say that. And they're just laughing. and so Phaedra says if it may please the court may I enter exhibit a and we see a flashback to three weeks ago infamous meat gate tapes Shamia's on the phone with Phaedra and Phaedra's like before she started this vegan stuff that girl used to have a Jamaican restaurant serving meat honey okay that's very different yeah first of all I would love to try meat honey what's that meat honey so she's like she used to serve meat and jamie is like no way well yeah that's how it happens okay people aren't born vegans well now they're very close because they're getting vegan formula but usually you know you go to junior high and you make that decision or whatever yeah it is funny like i don't think it's scandalous to say before she was vegan she would eat meat i'm like yeah that's the hence the before she was vegan part before ben came out of the closet he had a girlfriend before he got his license at 16 he used to never even be able to drive he used to ride a bike so phaedra's like well i think she's got bigger fish to fry than eating meat sorry those were mixed metaphors but you know what i'm not vegan still not yeah i saw it on the real news and it was ajc which is a credible news source yeah atlanta journal constitution for those who are wondering and then uh phaedra's like i was i was like andrew james cohen who are you talking about who's ajc andrew jice clay so uh phaedra's like she's like and i think the daily mail may have mentioned it which is a huge international news source that she was late on rent she's like i think it was yes uh that she can't pay for things so i think that's the bigger issue so the headline was slutty vegan businesswoman who owns five plant-based restaurants embroiled in embarrassing cash scandal oh what's a cash talking about you the hamburglar is the least of your issues

6:19Ronnie Karam: so they're talking about what this headline is talking about um what's the cash thing well bankruptcy 1.3 million in debt uh 1.2 million to the small business administration um oh okay well i was wondering if like there when they say cash i'm like cash because cash is so rare you know i'm like where was the cash being kept but i guess i meant just money in general never mind yeah well um i can't believe the daily mail would mess something up so they uh uh so then they start talking about this event well it does say this i'm sorry you i'm so sorry you're trying to get ahead and i'm reading i'm reading news i'm sorry everybody despite the debt her filings revealed substantial assets including 2.8 million dollars in real estate vehicles and a$5 ,000 French bulldog.

7:11Wow.

7:12Ronnie Karam: I don't know why that, I don't know why that detail made me laugh, but it's like, I'm broke. I'm, I deserve this dog. Yeah. Those dogs are so expensive. That's nothing compared to your medical bills. Yeah. Adopt, adopt. It's, it is sort of funny about talking about giving back to the community, et cetera. But then like, I don't know, indulging in something like a$5 ,000 dog. I don't know why. Both things are allowed to coexist, but for some reason it just somehow feels... It's a vegan dog. Get off her ass. It just feels off. I'm starving. I've had celery all day. Please. Here's a question. If you are vegan, do you serve vegan food to your dog?

7:55Ronnie Karam: Some people do. Is that appropriate? it no i'm it's like not i'm not a judgy way but meaning like it's one thing as a human but like this be i mean dogs are not naturally vegan right like there is there is still uh well humans aren't naturally full of restling but i'll put it in my face i mean give it i'm not mad if a dog is served vegan food but i part of me wonders like is it if it's one thing for you to make the decision to be like i mean i'm gonna be vegan but like for a to be like this dog's gonna be vegan too is that right but then again you know who knows what we're feeding the dogs at any given moment yeah it's not like giving them the non-vegan stuff is like really part of their natural diet either well i was gonna say if dogs had it their way they'd on your living room floor like you know dogs will literally eat anything so including the shots on your living room floor so there you go so um they're talking about this and they're talking about this event they have to bring all this stuff for it and angela's like i have to bring underwear and phaedra says yeah you want to help with this formula because this is like four thousand dollars that they're asking me to spend it's 28 a can and she's like why are you buying that and she's like and port's like it has to be vegan formula 28 a can is outrageous that is how is that how also is it considered vegan milk if it comes out of a woman's breast or is that considered an animal product is it considered vegan milk if it's milk from a cow i'm just kidding it's a vegan cow all the cow eats is grass um so phaedra's like well i'm gonna pump again just to give him some more powdered milk and she uh she says okay porsche's like pinky asked me to supply a book bag that's fine but she said a book bag with toys puzzles books notebooks crayons girl just take my amazon account buy what you need geez it's the whole thing yeah that's it's a lot i was looking at vegan uh formula and it really is expensive it's but let's let's see what the normal baby formula cost so i'm seeing prices like 48 32 48 41 22 i mean admittedly everything costs that much these days you know like a can though well it wasn't it doesn't look like these are just simple cans these it looks like these are um large amounts okay i'm gonna look up the i'm gonna look up this this one is a what is it liver boy brand hey i worked hard on that let's see how big is how big is this one for a vegan baby alcoholics i can't see how big these are they look they look like they might be big oh okay a four-pack choice soy infant formula four-pack at walmart is 83 i don't know i don't know how holy mother and then how much that is i think each one of these cans is large i don't think it's like i don't think it's like a single serve well yeah for 80 bucks but then how much is regular formula it's also very expensive it turns out it's all expensive baby it's actually all around the same price wow okay well when can you just start feeding your baby like licorice do that you know what all i gotta say is i think i complained about this before but i got like a little box of atkins treats like low carb treats from the store which was like six chocolate caramel clusters and individual wrappers.

11:43$18. Crazy. I can't buy those anymore. That's wild. You could buy a vegan baby for cheaper. Seriously. Jeez.

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14:25Ronnie Karam: So now let's go over to Fangi, the Fangi offices. So I don't know what we work we're in but let's go talk fangie angela angela angela she comes in with this big gold blingy fan which is cute and she's like well i realize that i'm not the only woman who gets hot and then once i realized that it's got nothing to be ashamed of i just felt like i could be a voice for the other people all the other people in the world who haven't heard of fans angela yeah you live in the south we did not find the only handheld fan they exist for a reason there's a market for them the voiceless people hot people in the south yes uh angela has discovered the many nuances of body temperature um i can't i was laughing so hard at this whole scene she is so ridiculous and then she's like well okay let's talk budget thirty thousand dollars for fans and marketing fifteen thousand dollars um so they're like well how many fans do we have to sell in order for you to break even and she's like like a like a thousand fans so they'll recoup their first rollout so does that mean they're thirty dollars a fan people are not going to pay you thirty dollars for it can you feed the fans to your babies

15:55honestly um i think this is a great idea personally i think like a blinged out personal fan why not i think it's fun i think she could actually do well with it but i just think it's hilarious that she is taking this marketing line like she's giving a voice to the voiceless like i could be the voice for other people who get hot Like, I don't think this is a cause that needs to be that like you, you need to have like banners behind you and patriotic music. Like I will be a voice for those who are sweating just a little bit too much to have a voice for those who have a light film on their forehead.

16:32I shall speak for thee.

16:37Ronnie Karam: Maybe people will pay that much for a little handheld fan. I don't know. i'm seeing stuff on amazon like play hot upgraded portable handheld fan um 20 bucks it's not blinking either so no i could see it like doing well i literally i legitimately could it'd be like a selfie stick people you know you everyone will laugh at it but then you know people will get it i mean people people love blinged out tchotchkes yeah well i mean a handheld fan people will buy that i think i'm just not understanding like your housewives so normally housewives will just slap their name on a product that's you know like partner with a fan company who just gives you a cut to sell the fan with your name on it so i i guess i don't understand the whole like hunting down fans to be i don't know i don't understand it but i think it's very funny and i love that she's helping the voiceless the voiceless sweaty people so then she's giving a speech to everyone she's like this will recoup you know the first rollout and i don't want to do stuff like i did before like throwing all this money at real estate by the way i just bought another house and it just shows it's the music stops and you just see the employees like oh god angela why angela they're like why why are you doing this angela but i made sure that the house is not cooled and it doesn't have any fans so once we sell it, we'll be able to sell fans to the people who move in.

18:03I just, I need a win. Are you saying that this is already a failure? This one already tank? So then this lady saying she needs to,

18:14Ronnie Karam: cause all that real estate's failed and stuff. And so she's like, I ignored everybody when they told me not to buy all those houses and I ignored them and they knew what they were talking about and I paid for it. But with Fangi, I'm going to seek wise counsel. I went to Tibet and I climbed up the mountains to a temple in the sky and I found the great monk of fans and he told me, if you turn it on, they will come. So here we are. So Amari is also there and she's like, oh my God, she's not believing any of this shit. And Angela says, you know, The mistakes I made before, I didn't properly budget for those, but I'm not going to do that this time.

18:58Ronnie Karam: By the way, everybody, this is Charles. Will you give me half that money, Charles? And he's like, ah. He just laughs, but he gives it to her. He's like, okay, you can have$50 ,000. She goes, well, I want you to be the face of the man-handheld Fangie. And he's like, yeah, that's not really my field. She goes, but you could wear it around your neck. And he's like, yeah, that's Flavor Flake. people do wear those things that like sort of they look like headphones but they're actually like a little fan that blow up on your onto your face ever worn one of those no they're good they're surprisingly good they're lovely i've seen them before but i don't know i'm all sweaty so i feel like when i'm just heating my neck i know it's supposed to cool your whole body but it really doesn't i feel like my neck's freezing and then the rest of me is like

19:51well yeah and they look ridiculous too by the way it's like the equivalent of having a a buzzer or like a uh a little case for your cell phone you know you might as well just say

20:04Ronnie Karam: hey everyone i'm a dad yeah um so um she's like well and we need 50 grand and i was gonna run by run it by you to put in half and he goes really another one of your projects okay why not cheaper in the house he just laughs i really adore charles barkley i mean uh oakley and uh i i do enjoy he's surly but he does he does support her you know um so now we go back to slutty vegans be slutty sluts are in the house and it's the now it's time for the big give back event so pinky tells us that her mother worked four jobs and when she was born her father was sentenced to 30 years in prison so she understands like hard days and everything and yada yada yada she didn't get back so k michelle arrives first k michelle a friend to no one and uh she is uh she says that drew is not going to be arriving because she has a respiratory infection so there'll be no drew sidora this week on the house doesn't have a respiratory infection she has a don't want to buy charity supplies infection that's exactly it she's like i will i will donate this boom box from 1986 and if you're not taking that i will not be coming to your party thanks let's not forget kelly's event last year for what i forget what designer it was where they all like went to the mall but drew didn't buy anything but then she had like receipts that she showed of like that she bought like a stick of gum at the yeah she went back to the she went back to the store she's like but i did go back and buy something weren't they saying but yeah but you were trying to get like a did like the influencer discount or something oh god drew it was some silly thing uh but yeah yeah she definitely had a um not not buying vegan baby formula itis but again and i said it that year as well you know i said it last year as well this is shooting i have to come to this for work do not make me pay thousands of dollars to come to work.

22:05Ronnie Karam: That's not fair. I'm not doing it. So they're all admiring over at Portia's house. I'm sorry, Phaedra's house. Portia comes over because they're going to have some vegan food, some non-vegan food before going to the vegan restaurant because they know that they're going to be hungry. So there they're eating and Phaedra is admiring Portia's butt and she's like, I am a toncologist and I can appreciate all foodies not everybody has to have a double dutch bbl but you know not everybody is gonna have a and also we forgot to mention that during the the um the spin scene we definitely got a flashback to phaedra and apollo doing their uh their donkey booty yes donkey booty because she was like eyeing the instructor and she was like yeah i'm not gonna go for another fitness instructor type I already made that mistake Portia is saying Well it's tacky before you go to an event But we're southern divas and we're not trying to just eat veggies Okay I was a baby vegan For one season only So we're eating first Frickin frack will be full Baby vegan I forgot she was baby vegan So Then They're talking about The pinky thing About the meat issue But before they get too deep into it Aiden walks in to say hello and he is he's even seems to have become even older than he was like two episodes ago he is like a rapidly aging child yeah like hello I've just started a financial firm welcome my son is on his way to college he turned into Ray so um all I want to do is golf in Florida I just want to move to Florida so Portia's like so what are you going to do for the rest of the day?

24:01And he's like, um, I'm going to take a nap. She's like, what? You get to take a nap in your black mama's house. He's like, uh, Phaedra's like, uh, I cleaned my mama's house. Okay. I seasoned her meat. I put it in the crock pot.

24:18Ronnie Karam: And I rolled her biscuits every day. Portia says, we weren't allowed to take naps after school. You got to look busy at every point in time. and phaedra's like you know i'm still a black mama you've got to know how to wash your clothes and how to wash my clothes and know how to get me a coca-cola and how to get me some ice water and how to clean my car for me yeah you know i know how to do the laundry i know how to wash things and clean a car but damn how do you get a coca-cola it's really varying it's really varying all the things you have to do for phaedra give me some water you know clean my car so she says uh you know with boys you've got to keep the fear in them so you know i might just randomly punch him she's like whoa says yeah you got you got to have them thinking whoa this lady's really crazy so then they'll never try you and aden's just standing there like may i leave ma 'am she's like okay go take your nap then so um now they're talking about the event and phaedra's like we're going to edgewood that's the place that's in the bankruptcy and they're saying what not to do with your business and your money come on and force is like oh stop phaedra stop so now we go to slutty vegan hey slut uh case shall give some announcements and stuff and um pinky is uh derek is going eric is upset yeah derek is upset i'm sorry pinky's upset because derek is like yeah i gotta go i've gotta change my clothes because i've got like a business meeting later and so pinky is sad because she's like this is a big deal for me and you can't give me like 45 minutes for my event i think she just wanted to introduce derek to all the women because this is like a perfectly nice charity event but this is not a gala and you know i mean it's always nice when your partner can be there at things but like he came to help you set up that was good and um five million dollars by the end of the episode it'll be okay they ask uh if he if she's told him about the bankruptcy and she's like is that a trick question no i have not so cynthia come everybody's coming and saying hi and stuff And K.

26:39Ronnie Karam: Michelle is like Oh you know by the way Pinky I heard about everything going on with Portia And that happened to me too So I get it now And I can understand why you didn't say anything in that moment But when it happened to me I completely understood And K. Michelle is like I realize this girl is slick with her shade So Kelly says Like no we did speak briefly I mean on the phone But you know by that time I wasn't trying to hear any of it I just don't think Portia was like coming for her to be shady by saying miscarriage that just doesn't seem no i don't think so yeah porsche's more fun with her shade she's not someone who's going to be like miscarriage would you have a miscarriage like that's not really her style and i think this is bizarre i don't think that she i think it was totally an innocent comment i think it hit k michelle the wrong way because she's sensitive about that and she's also probably in a heightened emotional space with just everything with her body right now so like it hit her the wrong way and that's okay too you're allowed to feel what you feel but i also feel like after you talk about it and you clear the air like it should be okay and the fact that she's still kind of like i'm sleeping with one eye open i'm like you can do that but not for this like you'll porsche will give you plenty of reasons down the line down the road but this was not this was not i don't think a very strong basis to start a feud yeah i don't know i just don't think she meant it that way yeah it was stupid but geez so now they're talking about that and kelly's like well we spoke briefly on the phone but by that time i was i wasn't even hearing any of it from her so fordra fordra portion phadra come and uh the worker's like we've got sluts in the building and portia's like wait a first she's like hey wait what did he just say to me she's like wait i mean damn i'm gonna pay you to call me a slut hated it hated it yeah um so then but then there's like some frosty frosty moments between portia and kelly because portia hugs kelly's friend slash publicist lamont but then kind of ignores Kelly.

28:53So, unfortunately, did I ignore her or did I just like, maybe I didn't see her? And then she starts looking like down. Like, where is she? Where's that adorable little lady? Kelly's like, take a grass-fed burger and stick it up your, you know what? Pinky should name it the Horsha Burger. Horsha! Remember when I said that? It was so funny the first time I said it. Horsha! Horsha with a side of African. Horsha with a side of Fufu. Horsha, Horsha, Horsha!

29:21Ronnie Karam: if you don't think it's funny hold on horsia also does she know that a grass-fed slurping out of her drink like you're not funny you're so ridiculous stop holly's been doing okay this season but oh this horsia and then like her i'm sipping on my drink okay she's gonna have t-shirts they'll be like horsia yes on it yes um shimmy and angela arrive and everyone's doing their donating and stuff. It's very nice. And Angela's talking about how she grew up and they had to go to shelters every now and then. So this means a lot to her. And Cynthia - So now the ladies are talking and Portia's saying, you know, how are you for real, Pinky?

30:07Ronnie Karam: And she's talking about bankruptcy and stuff. And so she tells the ladies and she's like, well, I don't have to file, but because I have a new company, I need to have a clean slate. And I don't know if you saw the internet article, but it's 89 grand and i mean please i can wipe my ass with that i mean it's really more that it's messing with my reputation yeah and phaedra's like because i can wipe my ass with 90 000 dollars every two two hours okay girl well pay it to the rent man don't wipe your booty with it get some charmin so pinky's like i'm gonna do a burger for portia's personality she's like don't you do me shady slut and she goes i'm gonna get you a one night stand bitch and i'm gonna get phaedra a hollywood hooker and she goes okay so um porsche this is porsche basically tells the kitchen she wants something with real cheese on it which is hilarious and biggie's like there's no cheese back there she goes well you're not you don't get mad at me about it we are determined that you don't eat any meat and biggie's like well that's because phaedra's around here telling people i eat meat And Pedro's like, I never said that you eat meat.

31:18Angela said possibly Shamia said it. Shamia's like, yeah, you did say it. And Pedro's like, I didn't say it. I remember you, Pinky, had a lot of accolades. And one was owning a Jamaican restaurant that served meat. And you would show people how to eat the meat by eating it yourself. At every table, you just go and take a bite of every person's meat.

31:39Ronnie Karam: So this is just Shamia full of shit, of course. So Shamia's like, well, I swear I thought the lady told me that Pinky ate meat. Whatever. And Phaedra's like, you can run the tape. So we see the tape again where she did not say that. And Angela's like, no, you know, Phaedra probably said that girl eats meat. Like she does this thing where she forgets what she says.

32:08So, you know, I'm sorry. I got distracted. And the reason why is because there's the craziest piece of Bravo gossip that surfaced today. And I was going to mention it at the top of the episode and I forgot. But luckily, my friend just texted it to me right now. Even though I'm on Do Not Disturb, I don't know how the texts are still coming through. I think it has to be mentioned now. As long as we're talking about, you know, executives and people who are big and important. have you heard the gossip that michelle from the valley is dating dr dre no but hannah just sent

32:45Ronnie Karam: me a text right when you said that that says what in the dr dre is happening here apparently her bestie dates his bestie and it's actually legit like we had a whole joke that turned tragic unfortunately that Michelle was dating Rob Reiner secretly well I worry for Dr. Dre then shoot I didn't think that it could get more absurd than that

33:19nowadays everybody wants to talk but they got nothing to say found out you forgot about Michelle. So anyway.

33:31Ronnie Karam: Dr. Dre, it rhymed. It rhymed. Straight out of Chateau. So, um. Okay, so back to this vegan stuff. Phaedra's like, yeah, I said that you had accolades and before this you had a Jamaican restaurant. And so Pinky's like, where's Maury at? This is like a Maury Povich clip. where is maury povich which they add a clip of maury povich later so it's great so pinky's like nobody's trying to step up and say who said it listen i am plant-based and the only meat i eat is my husband's yeah so um but it's not grass-fed meat i would just like to add that is meat-based meat and when do we discuss the fact that he is launching a cheesesteak empire she meant she actually mentions it on the show this week we talked about it i think last week or the week before i think he had his restaurants before hers right or i've read i don't know where i read that probably in a comment or something but um yeah he's had he's got a huge chain he's really successful um which you know is fine i don't i don't need the morality in everything you know like i don't I don't need my, I don't need perfectly, and I'm not saying she's not moral.

34:53Ronnie Karam: I'm just saying that I don't need like perfect record holder vegans. Like even if she wasn't vegan, even if she was eating meat sometimes and she said, vegans don't have a really good restaurant. That's a market that needs to be tapped. I'm going to fill that market and I'm going to have, like, I don't need it to be pure. You know what I mean? But for those who do, her business is about to be saved by meat money. Yeah. Big meat. Big meat is bailing out. big cheese steak big cheese steak because it's a big cheese steak bailout i just don't know pita will really appreciate that it's like where was this this is blood money your donations oh yeah okay so where are we shamia okay um so basically she's like well why would i lie and phaedra said well she doesn't like me and shimia said i didn't know that i didn't like you and she goes well you were talking about my kids and she's like what i say about your kids phaedra and then cynthia just cynthia whose job it is to just go not the dot dot dot that's what cynthia does if they're like we're having a hot dog not a hot dog we're going outside not outside so here she goes what i say about your kids phaedra and she goes not the kids not the kids so there was this um uh interview on the shade room podcast and the host is like okay who would you pick to be your kid's godmother, Phaedra or Cynthia?

36:19And Shamia says, well, Cynthia, I mean, look at Noelle's life. She's just such an articulate, beautiful woman. So I know if all else fails, Cynthia's gonna just make sure my babies are okay. So Phaedra took that as, wow, so my son's life is not so great. My son is not articulate. My sons are not beautiful. Have you not seen the scene where I talk about my son getting me a

36:42Ronnie Karam: Coca-Cola? I think you just Well, first of all, I think, Shamia, in those moments, you just say, well, I would honestly be so happy if either of them would, because it takes a village and they both have wonderful children and they are smart women who are trailblazers in their jobs. So I'd say whatever. But if you're going to pick Cynthia, then at least say, well, I would say Cynthia because Lake Bailey is beautiful. And I want my children to have a lake to play in and a beautiful view, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I choose Cynthia because her child is better than Phaedra's children. Phaedra's like, how dare you?

37:23I know. That's kind of what she said, whether she meant to or not.

37:27Ronnie Karam: Well, it's kind of silly. Phaedra's like, well, I took it as a dig. And she's to my kids. And she's like, well, I'm sorry you took it that way, but I can't control how you interpret things. And I don't have a problem with saying that I would like for Cynthia to be there. She's like, I don't have a problem with it either, but I did have a problem with you. Pinky's like, excuse me, we are at my event where we're not allowed to discuss tiny, stupid quibbles with each other. But you're the one who started it, Pinky. That's the thing. Pinky's like, okay, well, why'd you say that? And then why'd she say that?

37:59Ronnie Karam: And who said it? Why are we fighting at my event? You started it. Yeah. Yeah. She's like, guys, can we just talk about this in Dallas? And Cynthia's like, no, that's my event. Why Dallas? Well, do it here at your charity event. I spent$4 ,000 to do this. I will talk about whatever I want to talk about. Yeah. So now they're like, everyone's a great mother. And they're like, oh, yeah. And Shamia says, I don't dislike you Phaedra. And Phaedra gives it a long pause and just goes. thank you I mean I also would have said you know Cynthia's been a mother longer you know Noelle's out of college so Cynthia just has a little bit more perspective so I would just do it that way I mean there's just so many different routes not to be like well look at I mean Noelle is just kind of the best kid in our group I mean everyone else is kind of just like a garbage child right but Noelle's great so I choose Cynthia so Faitra's like I have no problem with Shamiya except now that I know she's going to go cause confusion in the group on purpose and think it's funny, basically.

39:04Ronnie Karam: So Shami is like, Cap, Cap, Cap, Phaedra, stop. You want to create something so bad with me? I don't have drama. You were the one who started it. What are you talking about? You started all of this. I mean, not the kid thing, but still. Well, even that you did, technically. So Pinky, thanks everyone for coming. And, you know, thanks for coming. Let's have some food now. and then we see the thing that says okay coming up later on Atlanta and I was like interruption and then it's like Maury Povich and he's like in my hand I have the results of your vegan lie detector test and Pinky when it comes to the accusation that you've been secretly eating meat the lie detector says that was a lie Pinky you're still a vegan and everyone cheers and she's like thank you Maury and I was like amused at how silly this was but I was also like we shouldn't be doing this on The Real Housewives I'm sorry Yeah, that was a fail for me.

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41:07Ronnie Karam: So then we go to Portia's house and we have a Porin, a Porin, a Portia and Lauren. Why do I keep mixing each other's names? So Portia and Lauren have a scene and there's no doorbell. and Lauren's like, this house is a little big to not have a doorbell. And guess what? You don't need one because it's Dennis, guys. It's Dennis. Everybody knows the hot dog man. So, yes. Now it's a wacky portion Dennis scene. Yes. Another completely unplanned scene. Unplanned, unself-produced scene where they're going to have an amusing dispute. So, he comes in and then she's like, oh no! and so she takes the card that mike had left on the flowers and like it gets rid of moves it away because it says i the card just says i want you which by the way you're gonna make you're gonna send over a giant bouquet of roses and the card's just gonna say i want you i don't think so so then um he's like i'm offended that you're dating you know he's doing that whole like am i jealous am i not jealous and um then a designer comes over tauren because we met him before to be specific have we have we have we seen him before on bravo have we met him before was he on like candy and the gang or something i don't know i'm gonna look it up so um he was on candy the gang wow wow my bravo dar knows no limits

42:39Ronnie Karam: Portia announces that they aren't just co-parenting PJ They are now co-parenting a podcast for PJ We want her to talk about her toys And how much she plays with them So she's going to have a kiddie podcast And her kid is getting her own set designer Child podcast Yes Seems like a good investment You just sold your mother's house, you know? Yeah. Yeah. This is. Diane's out in the backyard in a tent. And meanwhile, you're building a set for your daughter's YouTube page. What the. What is happening on this show? So they're looking at the space, like the pool house that they're going to turn into this set for like this baby podcast.

43:29And Portia accidentally calls Dennis babe.

43:32Ronnie Karam: and it's like oh my god that was muscle memory oops i can't believe i called him babe oh my god and they're like oh my god this is crazy and like everyone thinks that this is outrageous except for maybe the audience because it's like not crazy that she would call dennis babe even if they're they're so close baby you know the baby daddy etc like it's just not a crazy thing but they're like whoa this is crazy what does portia want in life who does she love now i'm like i'm not buying any this i'm sorry this is this is a big dead end for me yeah and then he's getting you know jealous about the guy and he's like i texted you because you were on a date because you bring a black man to the black party and she's like well it's a black party i have to have a black man or person and he's like well good luck you should help me make some of your decisions because you you don't make good decisions when it comes to men hi you're one of them that's what she says she's like um you're the decision yeah it's you sir she goes i don't pick the best people hello you're one of the people yeah so um yeah they basically just have like this kind of fake fight where he's pretending to be like like don't date people be careful whatever she's like i'm gonna live my life it's all like very i don't know it just felt like a bad sitcom all right let's go over to derek and pinky now is the big scene where he's talking he she's he's really busy because he's got a 10 million dollar project for his cheesesteak restaurant and he's trying to get it passed through but she really wanted him at the vegan event yeah so she he's like yeah i wish i could have stayed but i had to change for dinner she's like but it was important for me he's like yeah but you're not the only one that's busy around here.

45:25She's like, no, I just, I know, I know we're both busy, et cetera, but now I'm about to go to Dallas and it's exciting. And I'm just trying to figure out this because we'll see about Dallas. And anyway, in other news, I met with a bankruptcy attorney and he's like, for what? I'm like, to get a biscuit recipe. I think it's in the name,

45:46Ronnie Karam: bankruptcy attorney oh she's like to file for bankruptcy and he just stares at her and he he's looking at her like you're doing this on camera like why what the hell like you've really gotten so you're such a reality person so quickly that you're like you're gonna tell me this on camera what the hell so he's like why are you doing that she says the personal stuff um it's like five million dollars and he says who else knows about this and it's like nobody nobody knows and then we see a montage of her telling everybody she's like i will take a dozen chocolate donuts i'm filing for bankruptcy it's crazy thank you bankruptcy in the house hey hey time to make the donuts time to make the donuts um he's like oh he's like this is gonna oh sorry go ahead no same thing like this is gonna be a public nightmare and she goes well it's already a public nightmare i mean i've been fighting every single day i'm in the news every single day the perks of being a d-list celebrity am i right he's like he's like yeah but well you're not gonna file this bankruptcy because i'm gonna give you five million dollars she's like no no i don't want that he's like what do you mean we're married like we ride until the wheels fall off like you know i mean that and i thought that was really sweet because like i think that's what if if i found out that my life partner was in massive debt and i had the means to cover to to to get him out of it i would 100 do it because that's what you do you know well i would hope that this guy no no actually five million dollars i'd be like file that bankruptcy five million dollars um so that's the truth but um i would hope that he'd say okay i will give you this five million dollars but we also are going to sit down and structure your businesses together because i know what i'm doing and you you know you need help and so i'm your husband i'm going to help you but i'm also going to help you in this other way maybe we're gonna know it's not nice to make conditional you know what the slutty vegan needs meat no but um but i mean at the same time you don't want to make it conditional but you know i just worry five million dollars is just a lot of that's a huge fail and this other one's failing and this there's just so much going on that i'm like i don't know i mean i would obviously with something like that i would obviously console to professional and find out is it smarter just to pay off the debts or to get or to declare bankruptcy what's the smartest path but ultimately if your partner is five millions and five million dollars in debt then you are five million dollars in debt too because it should all be ultimately the same same place right so you're just ideally moving paying for the things that you owe because it's not crazy to pay for the things that you owe on and then yeah and be like but by the way we're gonna have to get you teach you how to run a business because this can't ever happen again yeah i wouldn't you know i would be like bye i would just disappear i would be like in a different country i'd be like i died i'd just leave a note that said like i died sorry but i do think it's nice that they have this kind of relationship like i think it's good that she has such a support a supportive husband but yeah and i don't i guess it leads me to questions about bankruptcy like when you go through bankruptcy and whatever where does the money owed what happens to that people just have to be like oh i just didn't get paid for that i always wonder yeah we'll have to see what they did in 1580 um so she's like one of those times that abraham lincoln went through it what happened what did abraham lincoln do oh he ran for president i guess everything was okay so piggy's saying she doesn't want to be the victim the reason why she didn't say anything is because she just didn't want to be a victim and she's like you've got a successful business and you're doing a lot of great things and I can't pull you down while I'm trying to figure it out and I'm not willing to do that because I will never be able to live with myself.

49:48He's like, look, don't, you're not, okay, don't cry. We will figure this out and I've told you you're going to bounce back stronger. Except he's saying, he has that voice that's like very, he's sort of has like a, a little high, gentle voice and he's like, I know you, you're mighty and you're tough and all these things and I'm 10 tones down with you. He's just like, I know. He's like, you're going to bounce back and I'm going to make sure you bounce back. all you have to do is eat the meat oh this is how people stop being vegan they they owe money

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