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4 May 2026 · 45m · 15 chapters

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#3347 RHOA S17E05 Part Two: Texas Read ‘Em

In short

Watch What Crappens recap of RHOA S17E05 Part Two (“Texas Read ‘Em”), focusing on room assignments, the pool house “dirty” conditions, and escalating dinner-table feuds.

Guests (podcast)

No episode guests are mentioned; this is a solo recap with the hosts’ commentary.

Guest backgrounds

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Key claims

  • Kelly and Shamia feel excluded because they were placed in the pool house/outhouse area; they claim the rooms are filthy (stains, dust, dirty toilet/sink).
  • Cynthia initially seemed uneasy announcing the room setup; later she arranges cleaning and gives her room to Kelly/Shamia.
  • The “freaking frack is whack” rhyme becomes a running insult tied to who got what room.
  • A major rumor reappears: whether Phaedra said/ate meat and whether that links to other rumors (including “sleeping with a married man” allegations).
  • Dinner turns into a verbal war, especially between Angela and Phaedra/Pinky, plus “business debt” jabs at Pinky.

Notable examples

  • Cynthia’s “deep cleaning” and “ceremony of resurrection” joke.
  • Kelly’s ex press conference with signs using their children.
  • Dinner menu: Chilean sea bass/vegan option; gala food paired with tequila; significant others invited.

Written by AI. May contain mistakes.

Chapters

2:23

Angela Checks In on Kelly and Shamia

Angela visits Kelly and Shamia, leading to humorous exchanges about their relationships.

“So Angela checks in on Kelly and Shamia.”
4:50

House of Faith or House of Filth?

Shamia and Kelly discuss the cleanliness of their accommodations, airing grievances.

“So in summary, Horsha and fricking frack is whack.”
7:21

Dinner Drama and Exclusions

The group discusses the dynamics and feelings of exclusion among cast members.

“So they're not going to even try to come to dinner.”
10:37

Dirty Showers and Standards

Analysis of the cast's complaints and their emotional responses to their living situation.

“She's like, oh, um, these two people, they love each other.”
17:04

Room Assignments and Dinner Plans

Discussing the dynamics of room assignments and the upcoming dinner plans.

“So Shamia is now texting Cynthia, or they call Cynthia, and they're like, we're not going to make it to dinner.”
19:27

Conversations About Friendships and Support

Exploring the emotional support and friendship dynamics among the group.

“Just because everything sucks right now.”
21:44

Conflicts Over Room Arrangements and Past Issues

A discussion on the conflicts related to the room arrangements and past grievances.

“Because what was the thought process behind that?”
24:55

Rumors and Relationships: Addressing the Past

Addressing rumors and personal relationships within the group.

“So Portia's like, she's like, yeah, you brought us on an amazing bus.”
28:00

Analyzing the Phaedra Meat Rumor

Discuss the confusion surrounding the rumor about Phaedra eating meat.

“because we see a flashback of it and we see Kelly and Shamia joking about this.”
29:10

Pinky's Business Concerns

Pinky expresses her worries about how rumors could affect her vegan business.

“it was not the springboard into a new dynamic.”
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30:20

Cynthia's Cleanliness Issues

Cynthia addresses the cleanliness issues of the room with the group.

“but I was like, she said that I said that you said that Shamia said that Kelly said that you.”
35:35

Tensions Rise at Dinner

The dinner conversation escalates into tensions between Pinky and Angela.

“And Pinky says, say it with your chest, Angela.”
40:00

Pinky's Walk-Off and Comeback

Pinky attempts to leave but ultimately stays for the confrontation.

“And I'm not sure who's going to fall on the sword.”
42:00

Heated Arguments and Revelations Among the Ladies

Listeners will hear a dramatic exchange filled with tension and humor as characters confront each other.

“I don't know if that's what she was doing or if she thought she was going to do, but she didn't do it.”
46:05

Observations on Wit and Quick Comebacks

The hosts discuss the talent of quick-witted responses and the entertainment value of the exchanges they witnessed.

“Because this, I think, helped Pinky a great deal.”
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2:09Ben Mandelker: Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap.

2:23Ronnie Karam: So Angela checks in on Kelly and Shamia. And she's like, are you guys okay? They're like, no, we're not okay. And she goes, well, I'm just really trying to come spend time with you.

2:34Ben Mandelker: As they're dipping their feet into the pool. They're sitting there on the side of the pool. We are not okay in this. Yeah, dipping our feet in a beautiful pool.

2:45Ronnie Karam: And she says, well, you know, I thought when she said that there's going to be two people that are really close, I knew she was talking about you guys because you guys are inseparable.

2:58And, yeah, and so Kelly's like, huh? She's like, I can't hear you. She's like, I mean, I feel the love. Like, you guys don't feel the love between you two? She's like, you don't feel the love from anybody else? She's like, no. don't you feel that don't you feel close like to drew or i guess jimmy is saying that and and just

3:17Ben Mandelker: like no no and they're like well what about freaking frack they're basically saying like there are other people who are like super close not just us and and just like well and then kelly goes well freaking frack is whack and he just goes from your mouth not mine at which point they know that angel's gonna go immediately and tell the other women that they just said freaking freaking

3:37Ronnie Karam: and frack is whack yeah and kelly's like i don't care i don't care who's frick or frack they're both whack and they both should be in the pool house because they have equal amounts of whackness because porsche is wacky and that girl had a had a man sitting at the head of the table at her ex-husband's house and phaedra you know i love her but she's just trying to be with her whack friend and she knows her friend is whack and by the way in case you're not laughing yet let me let me lift a cup up right to the camera and sip on it okay the cup work is too much she's got to stop with the cup work now she does it in every scene at all times she's holding a solo cup the whole time now she's like yeah let's let's settle down right we get it you're hilarious okay you're you're drinking after every line is really funny marisol patten more like maris small patten that's

4:24Ben Mandelker: what we can call her hey that was a marisol joke um i have to say um i had a really good point you know what it's you know it's so funny i had such a good point about this and it has completely vanished from my brain it was not about solo cups but i will say i don't feel like kelly has any beef with phaedra but she has to now commit to her rhyme of freaking frack is whack because she just sort of set it on the spot and so now it's like but what about phaedra what's wrong with phaedra she's like well um um she supports porsche so that makes her whack also like you don't actually believe she's whack you just had a really good time and she's still going you have to ride with

5:04Ronnie Karam: it yeah because they're angela's like you know everybody can stand on their own and uh kelly's like well i'm definitely going to talk my talk and absolutely i said freaking frack is whack okay i'm going to say it until someone makes a gif out of it now i'm going to sit in this in cha-cha's bed tonight and they show us they show us a shot of the little dog and they're like oh my god not not the dog bed and she's like i know angela's gonna run you know run in charles shoes and run back to that big house and tell us tell everybody exactly what we said like this boom boom boom wait i'm sorry she's you know her knees aren't very good so she's gonna do it like this junk junk junk okay

5:43Ben Mandelker: all right she's agreeing let's let's let's wrap it up over there kelly hold on hold on let's get that hook. Cup, I've got a cup. So in summary, Horsha and fricking frack is whack. Okay, that's two gifts for you, America. So now at pool house, Shamia calls Gerald and he's like, how's it going? She's like, oh my God. So you know how I thought we had like a really nice house, right? Which is like a nice, and the house is nice. It's nice. There's like, I think a ghost who's haunting it, but it's nice. and then there's an outhouse and then like a guest house area and they put me and kelly over here and babe let me just show you what it looks like and she shows him and uh she's like look here's the stain on kelly's bed and he's like okay and um she's like i can look at this dirty sink he's like okay and look there's ceiling fan dust there's dust on the ceiling fan he's like

6:40Ronnie Karam: okay it's like dirty toilet seat and it looks like there's a spot of like toilet bowl cleaner on the seat or something. And she's like, oh, you call this the house of faith? Casa de Fe? Well, I have faith that these rooms are going to get cleaned at some point. Kelly's like, hold on, I'll help you.

7:02Ben Mandelker: I have faith that these rooms are going to get cleaned at some point. Such a strange threat. I have faith that someone's going to come and get cleaned this for us.

7:10Ronnie Karam: How about house of filth? Or alternately... There we go. house of veil or something yeah i'm for hire guys i'm for hire so far both better than freaking frack is whack i'll tell you that much he does not care by the way gerald is like do you have anything else to tell me she's like no but also look at the sink and he's like it's a sink she's like goodbye gerald goodbye okay and kelly's like pool house it's an outhouse it's an outhouse okay well it's a pool house it's an outhouse it's a dog house it's a friend's house she definitely put us in the outhouse i think this was her is this nutbush city limits is that what she was doing is that what that was oh i don't know um my tina turner dar was going off there i think that's how nutbush city limits starts okay thanks for saving that um and in the words of tina turner also we don't need another hero i'm your private pool house who has the money how these things will you want them to be so portion pinky sit down uh because it's time for dinner and portia's like you went over there and checked on the girls how are they pinky's like well first of all i went over there we know that we've covered that pinky he's like and the problem is somebody didn't he And they didn't even change their clothes.

8:42Ronnie Karam: So they're not going to even try to come to dinner. And Portia's like, what do you mean? And then we see Kelly and Shamia just still sitting by the pool. And Pinky's like, they didn't change their clothes. They don't want to come back. She goes, oh, so they're not coming to dinner? She's like, no, Kay is skipping dinner, too, because she didn't get her makeup done. And Portia's like, wait, what? So now Phaedra comes out. And Portia's like, wait a minute. They said Kay's skipping dinner because Shamia's skipping dinner and Kelly's skipping dinner. and pinky's like first of all k is skipping dinner i said that already i know i think i mean this we i think we all know what

9:20Ben Mandelker: this is really about which is that they are feeling excluded because they're not in the main house with all like the main people and so it's not about that the pool house is dirty it's that they feel somehow like lesser than maybe they feel like you know they've already had a season under the belt. They shouldn't be off in Timbuktu in their mind. So I kind of feel like them feeling like the house is really, really dirty is sort of their way of propping themselves up a little bit to be like, no, we're not the runts. We're not the runts of this cast. We are actually we have very high standards. If anything, we should be not only just in the main house, in the best part of the main house.

10:01Ben Mandelker: It's sort of like a way to

10:02Ronnie Karam: to like yeah so like their egos are hurt basically yeah i think that's and i will also give them this it is weird that cynthia was like okay everybody gets to choose their rooms except you guys who get the shit room that is kind of weird why don't you just let everybody choose their rooms if they're going to do it it's kind of bizarre it's like i don't want people to get hurt feelings over getting shitty rooms so i'm going to hurt people's feelings by giving them the shitty room it's

10:30Ben Mandelker: kind of weird but you know it seemed like she was almost told that she has to put those women back there because Cynthia almost seemed so nervous when she was announcing it. She's like, oh, um, these two people, they love each other. They love each other a lot. So they get to be in there. I'm like, what, what's like, she seemed like really ill at ease at having to announce it. And it was almost like the fact that she made it such a big thing is almost what made it seem so insulting to the women. Cause I almost think if she said, oh yeah, you guys are there and you guys are there and you guys are there and that's the way it is it would have maybe been like a little bit better but there was such a preamble like oh this will be for people who really love each other and it's really good and uh and it's like then you sort of like know like oh this is the shittiest option and i'm being stuck there yeah you need to do it like some lucky person gets to sleep in the pool house their own house who's gonna win yeah something like that

11:27Ronnie Karam: So Portia's like, yeah, you know, she's catching her up. And they're like, yeah, the makeup artist didn't show up for K. Michelle, so she refuses to eat. So now Angela comes in and they, you know, they update her. And then Pinky's like, yeah, they don't even want to come to dinner because they didn't even take a bath because the shower was so dirty. Well, you know what helps showers be less dirty? Water.

11:56That does help. it does help so Portia's like okay but like here's the thing did we tell Cynthia so she can like have somebody clean it cause like give her an opportunity to clean it

12:07Ben Mandelker: and Pinky's like yeah I was looking for her I went in the room and I did not see her so I only checked one room and that was it um so and by the way I mean I would love it if they posted some photos of what this place really looked like because I'm also fully willing to say oh shit this was really dirty And these women really did have a point. Like, I'm not going to say that they're totally off base until I see some photographic evidence, but what we could see, it didn't really look so bad.

12:35Ronnie Karam: Well, I think they're, I think they're off base in how they're reacting. I mean, if I walked into a room and it was dirty, I'd be, Oh, this room is dirty. Like, can I get a vacuum or, you know, call somebody to clean it? You know, I would, I would like put on the guilt by being like, Hey, I don't want to bother you, but the room is kind of dirty. Don't, don't worry about it. Is there a vacuum? It's just some Windex. It's just some bathroom cleaner. And then you make the person feel terrible. And they're like, oh, my God, I'm mortified. Let me call somebody. But to just, like, sit at the pool and mope and not tell anybody and then just kind of tell Pinky.

13:06Ronnie Karam: So Pinky has to go do it for them. And then we're not going to show up to dinner because we couldn't take a bath. There are seven bedrooms in this home. You could have asked somebody to use their, you know, I don't know. Like, can I, our room's kind of nasty. Can I get ready in your room? Something. But they're just being assholes about it.

13:23Ben Mandelker: can you like light some candles and like summon bergina have a seance and get bergina in here it's hard for her old her to hold a duster she's a ghost she's like i tried my best i tried to use some bonami but i just could not pick it up for the

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17:04Ronnie Karam: So Shamia is now texting Cynthia, or they call Cynthia, and they're like, we're not going to make it to dinner. And she's like, Kelly and I don't even care about the size of the room. It's just the cleanliness of it. And she's like, oh, my God, I didn't know. So Pinky's like, there were stains on the sheets. And Drew says, what? And they're like, no, no, no. She goes, it's not just conducive, guys. It's not conducive.

17:28Ben Mandelker: So what? Just anything. It's just not conducive. It's not conducive.

17:33Ronnie Karam: And Cynthia's like, well, I guess it needs a deep cleaning. And she goes, yeah. You know, anybody who stayed there would feel the same way. You know what I'm saying, Cynthia? She goes, yeah, 100%. She goes, and I just want to say thank you because my little house on the prairie is really clean. So that's good. And I'm happy. But you know what? I'm going to give Shamia and Kelly my room, guys. And Cynthia is like, okay, well, okay. Well, that's what I was going to say. You know, so what are we going to do tonight? So you're going to give them your room? She goes, I'm going to give them my room.

18:00Ronnie Karam: Okay, everybody, thank you. Yeah.

18:03Ben Mandelker: Look at her. She's going to do that. Look at her. the service that she does and so Cynthia's like okay well then you're going to stay with either me or K-Michelle and so Pinky's going to stay with K so it looks like everything's all sorted out and but down at the pool house K-Michelle joins Kelly and Shamia and they're just like just going to sit there and be like we're in the dirty area of the property and K-Michelle the people that won't go to dinner club yeah and K-Michelle has been she's been trying to figure out her glam situation she's like clam is important to me because let me tell you why i can't even color in a coloring book i definitely don't know how to paint my face curl my hair do anything and when i step out i want to look great and the thing is that like i hate this is like the worst thing you know when like when a guy says oh but like you're not wearing like she actually looks the best without even any makeup on like i know like women hate that it's like um like we're not the one like it's not about us in these moments that being said she looked great she looked great i wish she could see this you know i guess we're all our own toughest critics but i was like okay michelle you look wonderful

19:08Ronnie Karam: like don't have to worry about this beautiful yeah she looks better than ever and also also by the way hate to be the one to tell you this you're still on tv you're in a scene right now i know and then there's that

19:23Ronnie Karam: so kelly is like yeah you know i was looking forward to this trip and it's just like it's Just because everything sucks right now. You know, my ex decided he was going to do a press conference with people holding up signs showing our children and saying that I'm trying to take his parental rights. What the fuck? This guy's crazy. No, you stage a protest and give people like posters with pictures of your kids for men's rights. Fuck off to this press conference.

19:50Ben Mandelker: Also, by the way, what like seriously Twitter people, what person that calls themselves a journalist goes to this guy's press conference.

19:58Ronnie Karam: and she's like yeah and it's not as though he wants to get the girls and spend time with them it's just he wants to inconvenience me yeah so she starts to sob and then they're comforting her and she's like the fact that you would go to that extent exposing our children to something that they knew nothing about is a very hurtful thing and like same person who says oh i didn't see these

20:18Ben Mandelker: things and i did this and now she's basically just like this guy's a piece of shit so shimmy is like You are always being strong And you're the strong daughter to your parents And to Nana And you are the strong mom to the girls But somebody's gotta be strong for you So it's okay Somebody's gotta be strong for Kelly Okay Michelle's like We're here, we're here, I don't know why Damn, need some glam done I would feel worse for you

20:44Ronnie Karam: But I just don't look very good doing it right now Can I feel for you later when I look better?

20:51Ben Mandelker: So at dinner the event planner tells them what they all have Chilean sea bass also known as Patagonian tooth fish and then there's a vegan option for pinky and then there's going to have some special food tomorrow for the gala it's going to be paired with tequila and Cynthia she also says that there are significant others are invited to this gala which makes sense because I was wondering why Shumia was inviting Gerald to this to this uh trip when this is clearly like a lady's time in the villa but whatever um so this is what this is what's happening in in this vacation so far so pinky says you know when my friends are

21:34Ronnie Karam: hurting i genuinely want to know what's happening and it doesn't make anybody else at the table less my friends but these are the women that i've gotten the opportunity to bond with and they're visibly upset and i know it's not for just no reason so cynthia let me ask you is there an intention on the room arrangement? Because what was the thought process behind that? Was it like who you were closest to or who you liked the most? I mean, was it that? And she's like, I mean, no, I just, when I saw the pool house, I immediately thought about Kelly and Shamia because they're close. And to be honest, like when Shamia and Kelly FaceTimed me, they didn't have the energy that you had.

22:09Ronnie Karam: So I'm not really sure. And she's like, oh, they didn't. She goes, nope. And Cynthia tells us last time I checked, Kelly and Shamia had a mouth and a voice. And the tiny house is the only house you need to be worried about pinky yeah yeah seriously i think cynthia should have

22:24Ben Mandelker: just said you know what it was a house for two and i thought of who the duos in our group and they seem to be really having a lot of fun with each other i thought it'd be kind of like a fun slumber party vibe for them and i'm sorry that they're not liking it and then just like end of story so angela's like well i went over there and you know i spoke with kelly and shimia and i was like why do you guys think that you were you know selected for these rooms and they were uncertain and she's like well so what were they saying about how they were selected well they kelly said freaking frack is whack like y 'all should have been over there so yeah freaking frack is whack so wait we got called whack because they got that room we didn't pick the rooms

23:03Ronnie Karam: peter's like yeah what does that have to do with us well freaking frack you know your best friends you should be over there and not them and everyone's just like oh god this is so boring Oh my God. The way to take a housewife trope and make it the most boring storyline of all time. So Phaedra says, well, I'm not mad about their comment about frickin' frack. Because you've got Dom Perignon, which would be Portia and I. And then you've got Andre, Ren and Stimpy are whack.

23:35Ben Mandelker: So Pinky's like, Shamia and Kelly felt like it might have been a little dig. Like, why did they get that house? And Portia's like, a dig? What kind of dig? I don't know. I asked. And so now 30 minutes ago, Pinky says, how do you, how do you feel about the housing arrangement though? Is it giving random? Is it giving intentional? And Kelly's like, it's giving what's happening. So Angela is like, so do you feel like that may have been the case? Cause we're back in the present. And Pinky's like, at first I did, I'm not going to lie. I'm not. Well, because the energy that you're bringing is a sense of hostility.

24:08Like she did this on purpose. and Pinky's like no I'm not

24:12Ben Mandelker: I love Cynthia there's no hostility here I'm not saying she did it on purpose I'm just questioning did she do it on purpose because I think she did it on purpose but I'm not saying she did it on purpose

24:22Ronnie Karam: well I know but I think like it was a situation where you were almost attacking us or like attacking Cynthia for picking the room she goes um yeah I don't know you like that and I'm just getting to know you so this is new for me yeah but Cynthia's beautiful yeah and you brought us here on a beautiful jet Cynthia So thank you. Pinky's like, you did a great job. You know, you know, you didn't know. You didn't know, Cynthia. You didn't know that you were ruining the lives of two people. One from a trucker family and one who sips from cups a lot. Big cup sipper. Really hurting them.

24:54Ben Mandelker: Double cups. Two girls, one cup. So Portia's like, she's like, yeah, you brought us on an amazing bus. And this house is beautiful. And look, there's a shrubbery over there. That's beautiful. Look at that banister. So beautiful. Cynthia, you have great selections of bastards. in the house as you bring us to. I really don't see any problems here. I mean, and I think that you rectifying the room being cleaned is like the most that you were expected to do and you're just the best host of all time.

25:19Ronnie Karam: Yeah. She's like, you know, Pinky makes the point, but then she takes the hammer and just keeps hammering the point and hammering the point. We get it. Andrea's like, well, I was going to ask Portia. Have you talked to Kelly? Did you have a chance to talk to her yet? Oh, no? Okay. Pinky's like, well, are you going to talk tonight? She's like, I don't know, because last time I extended flowers to her. And, you know, she didn't take that as a beautiful gesture. Yeah, because you were skipping her event.

25:47Ben Mandelker: Broken flowers from a broken person.

25:49Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So they all start kind of laughing. And Pinky's like, well, she said that you said that she slept with a married man. Was that because she said something about you first? She goes, no, that's true. I mean, I knew that or whatever, so I just said it.

26:04Ben Mandelker: I mean, two wrongs don't make a right. or as i like to say two beef patties don't make a good meal am i right everyone vegan jokes i don't make a mushroom cap two wheels of parm don't make a bag of nutritional yeast am i right am i right

26:23Ronnie Karam: am i right oh so um she's like yeah i don't know and pinky's like yeah two wrongs don't make a right and i don't know what she said to you but i'm sure that it was hurtful i've heard it was hurtful She said the same thing to me, except it was not true in my case. And Angela's like, I'm just trying to figure out between Portia and Kelly what the appeal is about fucking somebody's husband. I mean, you know who doesn't want to fuck married men? Married women. Like, gross. Who wants to fuck their husband? I don't want to fuck my husband. Why would you want to fuck my husband? She doesn't say that.

26:59But that's kind of how I feel. I'm like, well, you know, I don't want to fuck him. why would you?

27:07Ben Mandelker: Yeah, Angela's kind of like they both they're both sluts. So Portia is saying like, I just felt like I do want to move forward because I like Kelly and she liked me, but there's like other things amongst the group that like haven't been talked about. And they're like, really? Like what? She goes, well, is everybody's hearts and minds clear here? Because Phaedra and Pinky, are you guys good from the last conversation you had? I'm like, oh God, are we going back to the vegan gate? That Pinky may eat meat. Yeah. This one is talk. Look, that is by the way, you know, that a pinky was getting somewhere with Portia in terms of like putting around the hot seat.

27:43Ben Mandelker: Cause Portia just completely pivoted the conversation away from her into the stupid feud about the meat, which we all know is kind of like a big nothing. And now we're not talking about whether or not Portia may have slept with them with a married man. Yeah. The big conversation. Yes.

28:00Ronnie Karam: And by the way, I still don't get this. because we see a flashback of it and we see Kelly and Shamia joking about this. And wasn't Shamia saying, why is Phaedra saying that she eats meat? And Kelly says, well, because she ate a steak or something and they start laughing. So is Kelly the one who started the rumor that Phaedra... Just got confused. I don't know.

28:28Ben Mandelker: I can't track it. It's just, it's... They've shown it twice.

28:31Ronnie Karam: It's not like they haven't shown it. It just seems like the conversation is Shamia saying, well, why do you think that Phaedra would say that she eats meat? And Kelly's saying because she ate a steak and then they start laughing. So I thought that they were joking about Phaedra saying it. And it turns out that it was just Shamia coming up with this. I don't even know where. But coming up from it from Phaedra saying she used to own a Jamaican restaurant before the vegan stuff and they served meat. Yes, they did. So I don't know.

29:02Ben Mandelker: all I know is that I thought this was all done last week and we're going back to it. And I'm like, why are we back to this? It was like, it was not appealing last week and I did, it was not the springboard into a new dynamic. It was just a stupid thing that they tried to try to make happen. And it just like did not happen, but they're going for it again this time around. So pinky is basically saying like, there's, it's been around the rumor mill that Phaedra not Phaedra said I, that I eat meat. And Phaedra's like, you're worried about me saying that you eat meat when people are on the national news talking about how you don't pay your rent?

29:39Ben Mandelker: I think your priorities are misplaced. Let it go, sister. Get delivered.

29:44Ronnie Karam: She goes, and then who was it said, was it you, Angela? And Phaedra's like, well, Angela told me it was Shamia that told you. And Pinky's like, well, Angela said it was Shamia because we went out when we went to her house. And Angela's like, right, you were with me. You were with me. and we see them at Shamia's hot tub telling Pinky and Angela that Phaedra said this. And Phaedra's like, well, me and Shamia, we're cool, but I would never be that casual with her. She said, I said, oh, child, Pinky ate meat. And I did not say that.

30:16Ben Mandelker: I was watching this scene and I've seen this footage before, but I was like, she said that I said that you said that Shamia said that Kelly said that you. I was like, I can't, not only do I not really care about this, but I also can't follow it either. So Binky's like, how it was brought to me was that it was like a serious thing. And at first when I heard it, I thought it was just like a joke. And I'm like, okay, I'll brush it off. But you know, I'm a businesswoman and I've got a vegan business in bankruptcy. So when they kept saying that you said that, I was like, wait, she could be messing up my business.

30:45Like the last, you know, she could be messing up my business.

30:49Ben Mandelker: Lady, you're filing for bankruptcy and you have headlines every single day about how you owe employees. And you're in debt for this, you're in debt for that. but this is the thing that's going to mess up your brand this is the thing i mean and so she's

31:03Ronnie Karam: like yeah and you know and i asked you and you said no and i said okay well then who said it and so we see kelly telling shamia pinky is not really a vegan and that she saw pinky eating a steak but i thought this she was laughing so i thought this is a part i don't understand because it sounded like shamia said why would phaedra say that she eats meat and she's like well because she ate a steak so i don't understand any of this so shamia's like well didn't she say she and then we see shamia telling us didn't she say she ate meat on the call you know phadra knows what she said because she records everything on the apple watch and she might be more on point than i am so everybody knows jamaicans eat meat and like they're heavy on the meat oxtail goat beef jerk chicken extra jerk heavy on the jerk see phaedra tried to trick me well samia just now she's now she's onto her meat humor yeah now here's a list of meat i'm a trucker the trucker who pees in the

32:00Ben Mandelker: cup now here's a list of meat list of meat um yeah but once she started doing this bit i was like oh gosh i just started i just zoned it out and started looking at the strange proportions of her green screen i was like why can't they fix that why is she floating above her living room floor scale why why is her chair on a different plane from the floor doesn't make any sense

32:24Ronnie Karam: so then we see uh the other girls at the pool talking about k michelle's new album and how country music is different they release it differently and then we go back now cynthia comes over to them and she's like so are you are you ladies good i just wanted to let you know that they're working on getting the room cleaned and everything and that was the only issue with the cleanliness of the room, right? Yeah. She said, because I know that's unacceptable. And Pinky was saying you guys were really mad. She's like, well, Pinky was right. We were upset. It was dirty. It was very frustrating. And you would never intentionally do that right, Cynthia.

32:56Ronnie Karam: She goes, no. Yes, I went into your room and I put dust all over the fan.

33:03Ben Mandelker: That's classic Cynthia Bailey behavior. Dusty. If we know anything about Cynthia Bailey, she's always going to try to make people as uncomfortable as possible. Yeah. And Kelly's like, well, we're best friends.

33:15Ronnie Karam: We're just not dirty ones. She goes, okay, you guys can stop saying dirty now. Okay, stop saying dirty. Thanks. Cynthia's like, when we did the initial walkthrough,

33:25Ben Mandelker: I didn't notice the room was dirty because I know a dirty room when I see one, and I just don't recall it being dirty. But I'm happy to make sure the lady of the house has someone come and clean it. We'll be doing a ceremony of resurrection later this evening to make sure Brandina hears our requests.

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35:34Ronnie Karam: so then um cynthia leaves and back at the dinner uh pinky's like well it's giving house divided and phaedra goes what's giving divided and porsche is like well actually it is probably getting divided and pinky says am i divided like i have no problems with anybody here and i don't have any problems with anybody there and so angela's been giving pinky a look for a while now so uh Portia's like, what are you looking at, Angela? And Pinky says, say it with your chest, Angela. And Angela goes, I mean, you're on ready. It's just not that type of time. She goes, well, I'm not making it that type of time.

36:10Ronnie Karam: You are, though. No, I'm not. Are you bothered, Pinky? No. You come across as bothered. I'm not bothered by you. Not by you. By me? No, I'm not bothered by you. I was cracking up because Angela's clearly like, we're going to fight now. Are you ready? Yeah. Angel's like, don't start this with me.

36:29Ben Mandelker: Here we go. So Biggie's like, what are you saying? She's like, I asked, are you bothered? She's like, not by you. Absolutely not. That's a joke. And Port's like, this is turning. She's like, well, why would I be bothered by you? I'm just asking. You don't pose yourself as a threat to me. Oh, I wasn't trying to be a threat to you. Okay. But you come across as bothered. Ma 'am, there is nothing on you from head to toe that I am bothered by at all, at all. Oh, that's an insecurity is screaming insecure about what? She's like, come on. They're really ripping themselves up.

36:58Ronnie Karam: She's like, come on. Like, look, you're looking at the physical. We can go dollar for dollar. We can go. Come on. She goes, the physical, I think you want to have a walk-off. She goes, let's do it because you're getting bothered. She's like, I'm not bothered. God. Are you bothered, Bill? Yes, you are. No, I'm not. Yes, you are. No, I'm not. You're bothered. I'm not bothered. You're bothered. I'm not bothered. You're bothered.

37:17Ben Mandelker: Are you mad? Are you mad? Are you mad? She's like, well, by the way you took it, it answers my question. Well, I'm definitely not bothered by you. not bothered by you she goes well it's not about me you made it about me I never made it about you

37:32Ronnie Karam: yes you did you made it about me she's like bitch these heels are high as hell I'm as tall as you she goes and they go bitch

37:41Ben Mandelker: suddenly they suddenly they're like wow she said bitch and she goes bitch bitch stands for best in taking control of herself so call me Miss Bitch Oakley yeah I like that because it's a term of endearment I am a bad bitch. She's like, bad bitch that doesn't pay her bills. How many houses do you have left? And I think he goes, bitch, you can never even touch the money that I've ever touched in my lifetime. Bitch. I could throw a rock and hit 10 people you owe. She goes, no, you can't. Multi-million dollar business. Multi-million dollar. Multi-million dollar bills. I have a lot of money. My husband is paid.

38:22and just like well i know i know employees that you owe it's like okay turn your fan on you're sweaty well i never canceled christmas for my employees geez it's like what what are you talking about she's what how are you getting away you know how are you doing a giveaway when you owe people like what are you even doing with that she'll cancel christmas what are you talking about because you owe your employees money what are you talking about i don't owe employees which you sure about that how much do you own your foreclosures she's like i don't know them anything honey they took them from you baby she's like well you owe you owe everybody from the people across the street because well i owe you a new lace front she goes okay mr clean don't do it papa smurf would she said that i died i'm gonna remember that line until i die yeah okay mr pinky cole

39:12Ronnie Karam: founder of slutty vegan has faced multiple lawsuits alleging unpaid wages tips and bonuses for employees at her Atlanta Bar Vegan and New York locations. She settled one with Brooklyn employees for$10 ,000. And yeah, yeah. So, I mean, it's definitely out there. Don't do it, Papa Smurf. Oh, gosh. And Pinky goes, and I owe you some new. And Papa Smurf in one sentence. It was so perfect. It was so perfect. And Pinky goes, yeah, and I owe you some veneers, okay? Because that overbite thing that you've got going on. She goes, girls, girl, not the way your teeth co-mingle. The incestuous teeth you got.

39:53Incestuous teeth.

39:55Ben Mandelker: Not flowers in the attic teeth. No. Oh, my God. Incestuous teeth was amazing. Peter goes, this is a tool, honey. And I'm not sure who's going to fall on the sword. He goes, bitch, don't you got menopause? Turn your fan on. She goes, no, I don't. Talk to me when you get your business back. She goes, talk to me when you get your properties back. Bitch, I just bought my business back. No, you didn't. Cash. No, you didn't. Cash. Lies you tell. Well, you can kiss my ass. Oh, my God. It's so funny. And Pinky gets up. She's like, I'm going to get up and walk away. But then she didn't. And Angela's like, oh, no, you didn't.

40:31No, you didn't. And Pinky turns around and puts her butt across the table.

40:34Ronnie Karam: And she starts slapping her own ass. And she says, you can kiss my ass. And Phaedra's like, now, if someone tells me to kiss their ass, I'm going to need that to be a rump roast, not a flat steak. I want to lift it, pull it out.

40:51Ben Mandelker: Angie goes, you're not my type. She goes, oh, well, you're definitely not my type with your sweaty ass. And you've got investors looking for you. So what? So what? So at this point, Kelly and Shamia, they've been watching from down in the pool house. They see the cameramen have like swiveled into action. They're like, oh, something's going on. So now they're slinking in. It's kind of like, you know, like when a kid is like, I don't like you anymore. And like goes in their room and slams the door shut. But then like dinner's ready. And they sort of come slinking in like, fine, I'll have dinner.

41:23Ben Mandelker: Yeah, exactly. It was so sad.

41:26Ronnie Karam: They're like, we have absolutely nothing going on. And our feet are prunes by now. So I guess we'll join. So Pinky goes, the only person that's looking for you is a lash glue that you need to put on your eyes. She goes, oh, that you borrowed from me, please. And we see Pinky borrowing her lash glue. so Pinky's like let me tell you why you're a hating ass bitch she goes oh yeah I'm a hating ass bitch yeah listen and you seem so empathetic she goes I am but you deserved it

41:53Ben Mandelker: this is why I don't hang with females cause you're a vile female fuck you I'm out of here so she gets up again and she's like oh you're gonna go you're not finished Pinky's like oh I'm not going anywhere I'm out of here but guess what i'm going nowhere she sits down she goes and actually let me tell you something and drew's just the faces of the ladies watching this was hell i mean they were hilarious for show just the way that they're watching like wow look at newbies they took them a minute to warm up but they're doing pretty good you know they're just enjoying it and she was like in my years i've never seen this before i've never seen someone pursue a walk-off and then reverse uno and sit back down.

42:38I don't know if that's what she was doing or if she thought she was going to do, but she didn't do it.

42:44Ben Mandelker: So Drew's like, how is this happening? By the way, Drew also found the best lighting at the table. She has like magic cinematic lighting on her. Every time they cut to her, I was like, wow, she's like radiating. I brought my team from Run.

43:00Ben Mandelker: And yeah, it was weird that there was a Martian Rex to her. So Angela goes, I don't need a lecture, but I'm going to say this. Well, I thought that I liked you. I thought that I liked you. She goes, when I thought that I liked you too, and I don't gotta like you. She goes, well, I don't like you. I don't like you either. I don't like you either. I don't like you.

43:18Ronnie Karam: I don't like you. Why don't I like you? And Piki's like, well, you sat in my fucking face and you said something about the fact that I'm going through what I'm going through with my business. So fuck you. She goes, like, I give a fuck. She goes, yeah, you don't. You and you and your big ass feet. She goes, oh yeah, you don't. Don't think I give a fuck. She goes, your husband doesn't even like you. She goes, oh, yeah. Well, what? Well, we don't have a living wife in the basement. And Pinky goes, what? Now what are you talking about? Portia goes, what? A wife in the basement? We've already got a husband in the basement on this show, but now you got a wife in the basement?

43:53What is the wife in the basement thing?

43:56Ben Mandelker: I don't know. I cannot wait. So Kelly, she's like, Angela, at this point probably needs to mind her business because she's probably got somebody in her basement too she just doesn't know about it so biggie's like what you're not gonna do is you're not gonna disrespect me she's one you're not gonna disrespect me either and guys like stop stop oh great the girl the girls from the pool come up and now they're telling everyone to stop when we're having the most fun we've had all up so we had to sit you guys moping around the pool

44:22Ronnie Karam: go back and be boring by the pool and complain about dust on a fan yeah let us have more fun so pinky's like well i guess we're just two broke bitches sitting in a tree and angel goes we are we're millions in assets and um pinky goes yeah millions in assets bitch millions in assets stop it you guys millions in assets you must be obsessed you know everything about me you know everything about me i don't know anything about you bitch but you know enough about me to have a conversation just oh really what color is my pussy because you're all in my shit like i don't even understand you i would never you're not that attractive well it's clear it's clear that and you know you're and you're not like take that wig off take the matte lashes off take that lip off and

45:08Ben Mandelker: let's see how you look and i would get the same man that i've got no you would look like a boy named damon everyone goes oh damon she goes who's damon oh so funny and portia's like yeah she pulled that out of the web or out of the air or something. She's like, hey, newbies, pool house, you guys don't just want to sit down. You guys can have a food. It's okay. We won't get mad at you. So the girls sit down and then Pinky all of a sudden goes, I don't want to argue with you, Angela. And Angela goes, girl, I love you. Well, that sounds like a peace offering.

45:45Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I don't want to argue with you. Well, if we could take it back, your tone. I'm not saying you're bothered by me because that's not what I was trying to say but your tone does come across as aggressive she's like okay that's over like the most vicious reads and then it's like i love you that was fun good job yeah pedra says well this was not on my bucket list to be part of the war of the words between ansel and pinky but that has been most satisfying to me delicious they're both the same people i love it they're both in so much debt

46:21Ben Mandelker: oh my god and so drew was like i so much she goes i am very confused with kate's energy she doesn't want to have a seat she doesn't want to eat i don't know but i've really gotten to know her but it's giving crank it's giving cranky so yeah so k goes to bed and so basically what we hear what we're seeing is that now drew is going to go barking up the k michelle tree and i feel like it's not going to work out so well.

46:51Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I don't know. Because, yeah, I guess we'll see. Time will tell. I'll just wait to see. But yeah, K. Michelle needs something. So maybe they'll help her. Because this, I think, helped Pinky a great deal. Angela helped Pinky. And Pinky helped Angela because this was the best thing of the season. And I mean, it's sad that it has to be when they fight. But God, it's so fun. They were just so funny. Don't do it, Papa Smurf. Don't do it, Mr. Clean.

47:17Ben Mandelker: shut it papa smurf i love watching especially women who are so quick on their feet you know it's just like i love i because i just love women and i love i just love i love i love a smart woman and i'm not saying like oh my god most women are dumb i'm being like i love excellence i love excellence and you know and i love seeing it coming from ladies so to see to see just like two two women just like just pulling it like i could never i could literally never sit there and come up with these reads back to back to back to back to back like they just went and went and went and went and it's just like seeing two people who are just like great at their art form and i was especially angela that's one i feel like i'm making it sound like oh women are so stupid so when once i'm with when a woman finally gets like put their words together it's great i'm

48:05Ronnie Karam: not let me tell you the audience has met gay people before okay like explaining like the gay the gay psyche to people. Like, we don't know what it is. We love, we love snapping women, telling each other, we love sarcastic women, okay? It's in our DNA. That's why we're here.

48:21Ben Mandelker: But it's like a true talent to be able to immediately say something like your incestuous teeth. Those incestuous teeth. To be able to have a comeback so fast is a talent. And we love seeing people more talented. You know? So funny. Yeah.

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