#3358 RHOA S17E06 Part One: One Cattle After Another

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1:27Ronnie Karam: Well, hello and welcome to Watch What's Cropins. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hello, Ben.

1:33Ben Mandelker: Hi, Ronnie. How's it going?

1:35Ronnie Karam: Good. Everybody, welcome to the show. Happy Monday. Happy late Mother's Day to all of you out there, you lovely mothers.

1:42Ben Mandelker: Yes, happy Mother's Day, everyone.

1:45Ronnie Karam: Yeah, guys, you did it.

1:47Ben Mandelker: You did it.

1:48Ronnie Karam: Do you regret it? Do you regret it now? I hope you don't because you did a great job. All right, everybody, welcome. This is Real Housewives of Atlanta today. If you want to come to our cabaret, just sold it out. So that's June 3rd and 5th in New York City at Cabaret 42. That's sold out, but you can buy streaming tickets. We're going to have a big stream of all three nights. So just pick a night. And you can stream and you can watch with other viewer listeners. They're going to be in there streaming it as well. So there will be a big chat room that you guys can go party in and stuff. It's going to be super fun.

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2:50Ben Mandelker: I would like to announce that I'm very happy. I'm very excited. I'm announcing that I'm excited for our cabaret. And I'm excited because this week's episode of Atlanta was so funny to me. And last week I was really scared because to me it was like most of it was really bad. And then it got really good at the end. And I was like, fingers crossed. Let's like please hope that they just needed to put in a filler episode. And we're back to like the upward trajectory of the season. And it's true. It was great. It was so funny. I loved this episode of Atlanta. I felt like it was one of the best episodes they've had in a few years.

3:26Ben Mandelker: I thought it was so good. Or maybe I just was in a particularly great mood when I was watching it. But I was entertained. How about you?

3:35Ronnie Karam: It was pretty fun times. Well, I went to Arkansas this weekend because my niece graduated from college, which I can't even believe. She was just a little squirreling. We started this podcast like a little baby. And now look. And so she was graduating. So I went over to Arkansas and I stayed in this place. I stayed in this Airbnb. Oh my God. When I tell you, I really felt Shamia and Kelly in that moment. I was like, wow, I cannot. After I spent all week bitching about how they were bitching, I was like, just do not bitch. Do not say anything. Do not call the police. Do not do not do anything. Just just relax.

4:11Ronnie Karam: It'll be fine. It's two nights, you know. And so I took it. But I definitely did feel like I got where they were coming from. And then I went back and watched this episode or I didn't go back. I just watched this episode and I thought, no, because that place is a fucking palace compared to a real Airbnb. So then I got mad at them all over again.

4:33Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they showed there was like a mark on one of the duvets. I mean, yeah, that's like unsettling. But like I was like, I don't know. I feel like I need to see like stronger evidence. And I have to say, I loved Cynthia this episode. I loved how Cynthia was just like exhausted with them and was like I've been here many years you guys just got here stop complaining stop trying to have a moment like I did the best that I could it was a clean room like her vibe is like it was a clean room but I'm not going to gaslight you and say it was clean if you felt like it was dirty we will still clean it for you but shut up stop making a thing okay I'm not even a full time like cast member let me promote my shit here and let's move on and I just loved her over it vibe and how she just kind of told them like you've said what you needed to say we're moving on and it was actually very funny because you know a lot of this made me think of angel's trip on potomac that because it just happened where similarly you had a host and you had guests who were beleaguered in a separate house and they were unhappy with their accommodations and in that house that was a devil house okay and angel angel i do believe was trying to rectify that situation i think she was truly embarrassed but at a certain point giselle just just decided to like be a guest from hell and like angel needed to like put her foot down the way cynthia did and i just love the way cynthia just told her friends okay heard received we're moving on please shut up well yeah because you

5:58Ronnie Karam: know cynthia gets a lot of shit for being boring but when it really comes to it she can she can still play this game you know yeah and it was a lesson to people like angel who were like oh I'll try and please you to just be like, no, I'm pulling this car over, you know? So I thought that was really good, too. I'd love to see it. And also, I'd love to see Kelly and Shamia get the wind taken out of their sails because they're just so lame. I know.

6:25Ben Mandelker: Oh, yeah. Cynthia and Drew making fun of Shamia later in the episode, basically saying the things that we've all been saying was kind of amazing. And when Shamia goes, shut o 'clock, they cut right back to Drew and Cynthia making fun of everyone. I was like, yes, this is what I love to see. So it was validating. Yeah, very validating. You know, it was great.

6:49Ronnie Karam: It's like, is the audience the only people seeing this? And it's like, no, they all see it. And it's annoying. She's annoying everybody. So that's fine. Yeah. I just wanted to, I don't need to talk about this terrible Airbnb the whole time. I just want to mention that it was in this yoga studio. It was on top of a yoga studio. Okay. So it smelled like patchouli and like the whole thing. So I go to the bathroom and right on the toilet, there is a picture. Like there's, you know, I hate self-help phrases on mirrors. You know, like when people will put it on a sticky and they'll put it in the mirror, like I believe in me.

7:23Ronnie Karam: And they see it every day. You know, I hate that shit. So they're everywhere. It's like my karma. I'm telling you this place. Everywhere you turn, there's a new self-help thing. So I go into the bathroom and right on the toilet, it's a little painting and it's a butterfly. and it says, what makes your heart flutter? Can I shit? You know what I mean?

7:43Ben Mandelker: I'll tell you what I'll make this toilet flutter.

7:46Ronnie Karam: Like, exactly. Like, is this the time that you want to know what makes me flutter? Like, can we not talk about this right now? This is a shameful room. This is a shameful place. I mean, if they had a painting that said something like, shame on you. Okay, well, at least we're with the theme. What makes your heart flutter? cheese.

8:07Ben Mandelker: Why do we have to think about that while we're sitting on the toilet? Totally. Thank you. Why do I need to think about what's making my heart flutter?

8:15Ronnie Karam: Exactly. I'll tell you what's making my stomach bubble. You're about to find out.

8:19Ben Mandelker: I know. I'm like, I can probably tell you what's making my heart rate flutter. It's probably the stuff I'm about to poop out right now.

8:28Ronnie Karam: Okay, Real Housewives of Atlanta, season 17, episode 6, settle up and settle scores. so we're still in dallas um we're at the pool house again we get that opening again the dallas

8:41Ben Mandelker: opening but that's it for like the silliness and that's how you can tell that they had a good episode ready for us because they're like okay we do not have to fill our time with silly games made by a post-production right like we don't have to have credit sequences or whatever we can just get right into it i was like okay that's a good sign they're like we can deflate the mylar

9:01Ronnie Karam: mylar balloon that Adrian Maloof's old face is painted on. Deflate that. We don't need it today.

9:07Ben Mandelker: I guess that was Garfield that they were showing at the top. I was like, someone wants lasagna. Oh, it's Adrian Maloof.

9:17Ronnie Karam: By the way, that's not body shaming. That is plastic surgery shaming. There's such a point where you have to be like, let's calm down. Let's save some rubber for the tires okay there's not going to be any wheels on the street anymore i was more just like

9:35Ben Mandelker: we're so far away from halloween we don't need to really look like a jackson lantern at this moment with your spray tan it was just very orange it was very very orange i don't mind a spray tan but let's like just try to like not make it you know halloween themed um so yeah we are here i mean i sort of like the spec speaking of spooky and halloween i do like the specter of adrian maloof hanging over this trip because we're gonna see her soon but we just don't know when she's gonna pop up and uh wasn't this episode maybe next you don't know when she's gonna pop up and be like

10:09Ronnie Karam: jackpot get over here shamia is talking to a friend on or her sister glenda on the phone and she's like i'm just annoyed because last night i missed dinner because i was unhappy with my accommodations and this is how you know it's a shitty sister because the sister says oh yeah you don't have time for that no a real sister would have said you skipped dinner because you were upset about a room are you an idiot what'd you do sit in the room and not eat dummy i know

10:35Ben Mandelker: yeah i'm sorry like if someone ever called me up and said that i'd be like what is wrong with you why would you just why would you not have the good food and be with your friends whenever we've had everyone knows if you wind up with accommodations that are really shitty you do whatever you can to not be there right you will stay out longer you will just do whatever you can or if your house is in like a blackout or something like that you get out if you can right and so her deciding not to do the fun thing and not be part of the main action so she could mope in the accommodations that she doesn't like in the first place doesn't make any sense no it makes no sense so uh then we

11:12Ronnie Karam: go to pinky talking to derek on the phone and telling him about her and angela getting into it and she's like yeah the giraffe looking one yeah nailed it nailed it made a giraffe joke pinky okay pinky has become one of the most annoying housewives in record time did you see the video that she made this weekend and put on instagram oh my god i refuse to press play on it i know i was the election of podcast i was afraid of what it might be what was it tell me describe She puts on like pastel, like a pastel, like baseball cap and overalls and starts doing a hip hop song about bankruptcy. And she's like, yeah, bankruptcy.

11:52Ronnie Karam: Here's the bankruptcy. I'm going to tell you about bankruptcy. Chapter 11. Nah, nah, nah. And then it's like, what are you trying to make bankruptcy fun? Get out of here with your bank. This is not your thing. Get a fan. You know what I mean? Like Angela has her fans and Cynthia has her booze that she's selling. We all have the, you know, what's her buns? Shamia has her ass rum that she's trying to sell. And you're, what are you, trying to sell bankruptcies? Pinky, stop. Just stop.

12:21Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Stop. I think this would be an appropriate time to say, don't have a cow, man. Get it. Yeah, she is annoying. But she's like actually perfectly annoying. She's like one of those housewives that's annoying where you're like, ugh, Pinky. But she engages in a way that's like, oh, you're an active member of the cast. So I think that like, I'm very happy that she's there. I'm happy that she's annoying me because we need to have these people on these shows, you know, unlike like a Kierna, you know, or like, I don't know. Amanda Francis is like, is polarizing. She's, she's annoying, but like, she's also funny, annoying.

12:57Ben Mandelker: So she's like a good annoying. I'm trying to think of someone who's just like annoying. I know what you mean though.

13:00Ronnie Karam: I think Kierna is a good one to bring up because Kierna is trying, you know, and Pinky's not really trying. She's just naturally that annoying. You know, Amanda's not really trying. She's naturally annoying and that's what you need on these shows. So, you know, good for her. But just the Instagrams, please. I just feel like just save yourself and save me, you know.

13:18Ben Mandelker: Pinky just sort of has the vibe of the person who's in college who's always trying to make you go to like the dance that's being held at like the student union. But like no one wants to go to the student union party. Everyone wants to go to the parties that are held at like a frat or like at someone's apartment or someone's like people want to go to the off campus parties. They want to go anywhere else but the party at the student union. But Pinky is there and she's like organized it. And she's like, you got to come to the student union party and you go there. And because it's the student union party, there's no booze.

13:46Ben Mandelker: It's just like not alcoholic. It's all soda. And it's just like, like only okay music and an empty dance floor. I just feel like that's who Pinky is.

13:57Ronnie Karam: And she's like, they're all about bankruptcy. Wait a minute. This is wait a second. Who thought this would be fun?

14:04Ben Mandelker: She's like my favorite part of Monopoly. It's going bankrupt. Unseen.

14:12Ronnie Karam: Do not collect$200. Yes!

14:17Ben Mandelker: She's like, uh-uh. When you land on free parking, you do not get the jackpot. I don't like those rules. You get nothing.

14:25Ronnie Karam: And she mentions that Angela said, yeah, we've got a third wife living in the basement. What the hell? I wish we did, because we could use some help with the kids.

14:34Ben Mandelker: What about a second? she's already Pinky's already upped it to a third wife I think Angela only said there was a second wife but now Pinky's saying that there's a third wife now it's just growing in there it's like that documentary yeah yeah the false prophet yeah the vegan prophet um so Pinky is they're like laughing about it and it's nice though ultimately they're just like we miss you blah blah blah um so now we're in the main house and everyone's eating breakfast and having a fun time and they they each walk into this breakfast one after the other they've all clearly just had a session with their glam team they are i mean their face is beyond all their faces are beyond made up i understand real housewives love having glam and it's like important to have glam before you go on tv for a lot for these for the women of all these shows but wow it was like are they going to be doing a joint joint like news broadcast this was like anchor anchor lady level makeup up they all were like boom boom i was like man it's like 8 a.m i was like that is tough this is where this is honestly where where like i kind of feel like being a being a man is is like a little

15:42Ronnie Karam: easier like that's a lot easier on every way it's easier but yeah with this i mean this is male

15:48Ben Mandelker: privilege male privilege really kicks in in this moment yeah for sure and they i don't know if

15:54Ronnie Karam: they're only getting their glam team like for the morning and then they send them home or what because they're putting on nighttime makeup. You know, they're like nighttime glam for first thing in the morning. Like you need to have a, I guess it's like luxurious to have a full-time glam because you know, like your morning glam, your afternoon glam.

16:11Ben Mandelker: Yeah, we get it. There's been many think pieces about why this is and being on TV and the pressures of being on TV and how it's actually really not fair, but this is what women have to do, blah, blah, blah. Like I get all the implications and all the undercurrents that this is actually much more than what it appears on TV, but at the same time, it's like it's 8 a.m. and everyone is just like, has like, makeup for the back row to see, and it's just like, always so funny on any of these shows when this happens, and I was like, wow, one after the other, and they're just like in bathrobes, and like ba-boom, full face.

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18:56Ronnie Karam: so drew sees pinky and she's like well you know last night your energy was a little bit oh i'm over and she goes well i mean it could have been i mean i was defending my girls okay that's it i mean it could have been it could have been bad energy what do i know but i've really got to defend my girls against a pen stain on a bed and I came out came out to battle

19:19Ben Mandelker: there were animal products in that ink and I will not stand for it so she says that she's gonna chill

19:25Ronnie Karam: today and she just wants to get to know the girls and she's like I'll even get to know you Bigfoot even though you were rude and nasty to me

19:32Ben Mandelker: you know what Pinky you're throwing you're throwing nutritional yeast in a glass house right now like if you start coming for Angela's physical physical elements people are going to come for yours and it's not going to be nice when it gets turned around on you okay so

19:52Ronnie Karam: she's already been slayed in that department because you can call her Bigfoot all you want but all I hear is shut up Mr. Clean okay Papa Smurf I know

20:03Ben Mandelker: but that's like mainly on her but ultimately that is still based off of her styling and it's not about like her physical but people could like with anyone you can pick apart anyone's physical you can find something and like it's when it gets turned around you're not gonna like it pinky i'm telling you that right now

20:21Ronnie Karam: yeah so then um drew's like yeah there were some explosions and she goes yeah i mean the moral of the story is yesterday was just day one so let's just get over it and drew just stays on her she's like yeah that was a lot that really was that was a whole lot um she's kind of like uh it's one of

20:40Ben Mandelker: those moments where you feel like she's both kind of reprimanding her and also saying like settle

20:45Ronnie Karam: down you're new here okay just like relax yeah so samia finally got to sleep because she slept in pinky's room and she's like yeah and i'm sleeping with kelly because you know we don't have a room you know what i mean oh god the fact that i'm having to share a bed on a girl's trip what if i want to pass gas now i've got to be cognizant of the fact that i'm sleeping with somebody else and I have to hold my ass cheeks all night long? I've just got to hold my, what if I'm, and she's trying to do like a comedic bit, but Shamia says.

21:14Ben Mandelker: You didn't need anything, so don't worry about it. So Pinky's asking Drew about how her movie's going, and Drew's like, well, I'm still waiting on the numbers.

21:25Ronnie Karam: How long does it take to count to five? I know.

21:29Ben Mandelker: How many tickets were sold in that AMC?

21:34Ben Mandelker: So Pinky asked Shamia if she saw it, And Shamia's like, no, I haven't seen it yet, but I'm looking forward to seeing it for sure. And of course, like the tension there is, of course, she was not invited to that mall premiere. And Phaedra's like, well, I'm just happy y 'all are just not fussing about nothing. And Shamia and Drew's like, yeah, Shamia, you know, I don't have any problems with Shamia. Like, for real, I have no problems with her whatsoever. And Shamia's like, like, yeah, I'm not going to believe that.

22:02Ronnie Karam: She goes, that means she can talk to me whenever she wants. she can talk to me whenever she goes well i've apologized and you can accept that or not and you've chosen not to accept it okay and um phaedra's like oh did you receive this apology she's like i'm well i didn't receive it because she said i apologize but you can't say but

22:24Ben Mandelker: well then i followed up and i said i apologize for the but and it almost feels like at that point drew you want a problem i mean why do you want so many problems when it's almost Shadda Clark. Personality. Personality.

22:38Ronnie Karam: And Drew's like, yeah, her apology was bullshit. Like that Mohawk Bob that she walked into Portia's house with. That's how I feel. So now Cynthia comes and Kelly is still getting dressed. And then we go to the pool house and Kelly's just digging through a suitcase. And she's not really opening the suitcase. She only opens the very top while the suitcase is standing up. And she's putting her hands down in there like a grab bag. And just like waiting to feel something decent. And you're never gonna. Because there's nothing decent packed in there. Yeah.

23:07Ben Mandelker: Like the vibe is almost like I'm not going to open this bag all the way lest any of the germs get in. And also for a moment, it was like, is she packing up to leave? Is she not? It's like, no, she was just grabbing something out of her bag that she refused to open all the way up.

23:19Ronnie Karam: Although seeing Kelly like search for clothes by treating something as a like grab bag kind of explains her fashion sense. It's like a little kid you let dress themselves for school, you know?

23:33Ben Mandelker: i saw a little kid walking on the street yesterday and i was like man that kid is like more stylish than i am so sometimes maybe the app comparison is like letting ben dress himself for the day

23:44Ronnie Karam: yeah um or letting two podcasters yeah choose their own fashions for sure i yeah i changed my

23:49Ben Mandelker: t-shirt today guys i was wearing my round my roundup not roundup yeah the roundup roundup t-shirt which was fun but i've been wearing for two days uh so cynthia is uh explaining to the ladies about the plan is for the day they're going to split so some people are going to go to check out some horses watch some dressage and some are going to watch like a cattle run or whatever cattle cynthia's like what is it cattle hoarding cattle cattle what cattle cattle who cattle huh cattle

24:22Ronnie Karam: so now um pinky's like i've got to step in more shit she's like well i really wanted to make sure that Kelly and Shamia are here with me because I just want to make sure we're good on this room situation. Okay. So she likes Drew, so she wants backup. So she's going to bring Drew too. So now we go to K. Michelle and she's taking photos with her outfit,

24:46Ben Mandelker: you know, in front of the door. This is also part of the ritual, which is like you get the glam and then you have to then do a photo shoot no matter where you are, which is like, and I sound like a crotchety old person at this point like why does everyone have to take photo shoots but it is kind of hilarious like everything turns into a photo shoot it's like the glam squad does you up and you get into your outfit and the glam squad takes photos of you and you're like they're all like by just like doors refrigerators and they're like yeah because they all look amazing obviously and you want to like immortalize the look but it's also funny how it's like non-stop on every single one of these shows everyone gets into glam and does like a Dorit Kemsley photo shoot

25:24Ronnie Karam: Yeah, we should start doing that every day. Just taking like outfit of the day photos. These are my jogging pants. This is my dance. It's the same thing I wore yesterday and the day before that. OOTD. And the day before that. Yeah, so they're all doing photo shoots. And now the group for cattle herding heads out to go cattle herding. They get on the little bus thing. And Cynthia's like, here's to women empowerment. Cattle herding. Cattle herding. What women have fought for? To watch cattle walk by an old saloon on a dusty old western set.

26:04Ben Mandelker: God, those poor cattle. They're like, oh, wow, let me see if anything's new in this town. Let me guess. No! They look so bored. Like, whatever happened just walking by tumbleweeds and cacti? So Cynthia's like, although I'm here to celebrate the success of my tequila, which is yet to be released into the market, but it's successful. I really just want the ladies to have a good time. So let's just do a big one and have fun together in a small town watching a cow go by. Um, so then the other ones, Portia K and Phaedra and Angela are going to go to this dressage. By the way, Portia is wearing the funniest outfit.

26:42I can, I have to, I have to imagine how much boob tape had to have been

26:47Ben Mandelker: applied to make this work. Cause she's basically wearing like a little bolero jacket. It's like a little text like a country western bolero jacket and nothing underneath and the bolero jacket only just like covers the top of her boobs and like so the boobs are just like stuck to it really so like you know they're taped in i was like how is she gonna lift her arm up like i it was such a funny like and only porsche could pull that off too it's just like a bolero and under boob outfit and i was like wow i would be i would be just like i'm not being a full muumuu to be honest

27:21Ronnie Karam: like every day i'd just be in a muumuu um yeah there's no doing the wave in that outfit for sure so they're updating k michelle on the drama from last night and she's like but i didn't look good so i can go down there she's like oh god you can look however you want don't worry about it you know i mean maybe you could have helped pinky chill and um they're like what is with her energy like what's with pinky's energy they're trying to figure it out and borscht is like she's i thought she was a damn vegan. She's bringing up a lot of beef. They're going to do that 20 times. They're never going to stop with Pinky.

27:52Ronnie Karam: Every time Pinky gets upset with something, they're going to be like, there goes Pinky with her beef. She's hungry. Pinky sure has a lot of steaks in this situation. Wow.

28:06Ben Mandelker: Is she from Europe? Because she's acting like a burger. Pinky is overcooked.

28:17Ben Mandelker: um but that's also probably because every other scene pinky is like well as a vegan i'm sorry i'm a vegan i can't do that well i'm a vegan yeah also do you wonder if there was like more that we just didn't really see do we like because like pinky's like annoying but she's not everyone's like whoa that energy that energy and i'm like yeah she's like i don't think she's like above and beyond anyone else's energy uh like there is an energy but it's not above and beyond i wonder almost like if this back and forth that was happening was going on for like a very long time and like was she did she keep on like reigniting it over and over and over again and they're like oh my god pinky enough you know does she monologue a lot like what do you think is going on because they really seem to be from all sides are like pinky whoa you have to settle down well i think

29:03Ronnie Karam: it just started with them being like okay you're trying to confront somebody for somebody else who's not even at the table that's really weird about a room being clean so that was weird but But then her thing with Angela, I mean, it was pretty intense when she kept getting up and being like, I'm walking away. I'm not walking away. Oh, yeah, you can kiss my ass, you old menopause bitch. Whatever. So, yeah, it did go. The energy did go kind of hard for the situation, you know, because everybody else is just like calm at the table. Like, what are we mad about? We're mad about a dirty comforter. Like, what's going on?

29:36Ronnie Karam: No one could really wrap their mind around it. and angela stayed so calm during the whole thing that i think it just made pinky look crazy yeah

29:45Ben Mandelker: so then we see a montage of all the times that pinky has kind of acted up or been like a little extra or just been seemed like she's gotta be in her bonnet you know i didn't really think this

29:57Ronnie Karam: was dramatic either did this is what you're saying yeah because i was like she's not even

30:01Ben Mandelker: doing anything in these clips but it's i guess the vibe is more like pinky you're sort of like trying to she's not trying to stir up shit but it's almost like she leans in like wow can you believe this beef that I have with this person and everyone's like I don't get it there's nothing yeah exactly so K. Michelle's like well I think Pinky's passion was I don't know it looked like aggression and Phaedra's like well it's a difference between yes and yes I mean She's like that's just the way I talk I'm like well can you just whisper it to me instead

30:40Ronnie Karam: Yeah And then Portia's like It's cause she needs meat When you don't have protein in your body That bitch is hungry So Michelle Kay Michelle stands up for her She's like well her defense She means well you know She felt that was wrong and that's why she was talking up about it She's like well They're like whatever it's too much But Kay Michelle stands up for her And she's like well when it's her friend she'll go hard like okay so then angela comes dressed ready for like a cocktail party or something like uh

31:11Ben Mandelker: you know we're gonna go like ride horses right i didn't get the memo um so she's like yeah i mean so yeah last night was you know what she said some things that were hurtful and i said some things that were hurtful and you know and portia is a read for a read just like yeah and you know that's just what happens pinky is talking too much and i don't know what she's talking about but i don't have an issue with pinky i said everything i needed to say to begin i'll say it again she has a whole live-in wife in the basement and the angel's always doing that thing where she's sort of like always brushing like a strand of hair off of her forehead but she does it like with her all her fingers extended she's always like she never wants to like curl her fingers they're just always in straight lines yeah she does just brushing things up like this that's

32:01Ronnie Karam: funny you know so they're gonna go see dressage and they're like what and phaedra says that was

32:06Ben Mandelker: her competitive sport in school and so she know this i remember her talking about riding horses

32:13Ronnie Karam: but yeah i was watching clips you know because we're putting stuff together for this cabaret so i've been watching atlanta clips and just dying laughing mostly nene clips but those old atlanta clips are just so fucking funny and to see the difference in phaedra in her first year to now like how she's all glammed up and how she was so plain like one of the clips is nini being like that plain ass you know homie ass phaedra like she's you know she doesn't even do her hair and she and they show phaedra and she just looks like a real mousy quiet person who never speaks you know remember her first season she really didn't say that much she was and now she's like this glam bot you know she's always like superstar yeah so i remember seeing clips of her riding the horse a little bit but yeah i don't remember this being her thing dressage yeah i don't remember

33:05Ben Mandelker: either they showed clips of her on a horse from back in the day so clearly she had she talked about her relationship with horses but i just did not remember that she had dressage in her background which i don't know why it was so amusing of course drafaitra has dressage in her background um so she's phage was explaining it of what dressage is all about and portia goes so you're a rideologist she was like oh yeah you know how to ride yeah and this was my favorite thing that i think my favorite line of the episode was gay michelle going i grew up around horses my whole life i ain't never heard of no dressage we call it go see that horse the way i laughed go see that horse go see the horse we call it go see that horse

33:56Ronnie Karam: um so now um we go back to the bus and cynthia is talking about how they're going to be late she's like oh my god i hope the cattle waits for us you know i hope the whoever's hoarding these cattles hoards them when we're there so she doesn't know how this happens she just knows that the cattle drive us once a day and they don't want to miss it so now they're talking about last night and shimmy is like well um uh you know no one's over there where we are and that's why last night didn't end up good because you know you guys don't understand it we're over there by ourselves and you don't know what we've seen or what we dealt with over there oh yeah the place was filthy it's

34:34Ben Mandelker: filthy but like the point of it is that like that's where your bed is but you're supposed to

34:40Ronnie Karam: come up to the main house and hang out you're not supposed to just they were traumatized man

34:46Ben Mandelker: have they never been on like a group vacation before like if if you're in a separate room you go to like the main room where everyone's hanging out like you don't you don't just like sit there be like well i guess this is where we're spending the whole vacation by the pool get up to the main house it's not that hard so she's sitting there like you know explaining this and Cynthia's like, well, you know, I don't want you to be in an unclean place. And she goes, oh, no, I know. I know, but I know you don't want that. And Cynthia's like, I'm doing the best that I can to rectify the situation. She goes, you did say you were going to send someone over, but it didn't get cleaned and nothing happened.

35:23Ben Mandelker: I'm like, that was last. It's, you realize that was last night and now it's the morning. Like, people have to get there. It doesn't just happen like that. It's not like you call up the cleaners. It's not the media. They're not on call in the back shed. Yeah.

35:44Ronnie Karam: And Kelly's like, yeah, it wasn't taken care of. And they're asking, are the cleaners coming in today? And she's like, okay, they're coming in today. My God. And Shamia's like, okay, well, they're coming today, but it wasn't taken care of. And then we see in the last episode, Shamia called to tell Cynthia about the uncleaned room 30 minutes before dinner. So, yeah, they're not like sitting outside just waiting to see if somebody needs them. And Cynthia's like, yeah, this isn't a hotel, okay? And if it's not cleaned today, I'll walk over there and clean it my damn self. And she's like, you guys are just, you're talking about the situation to the point where it's taken over everything.

36:19Ronnie Karam: And now, and then Pinky comes to dinner, hot as fire, and basically said you guys were dragging me about the whole situation. And Shamia's like, well, you did say you were going to send someone over, but it didn't get cleaned. Shamia, it was 30 minutes.

36:32Ben Mandelker: yeah it was 30 minutes before dinner and also this house is in the middle of nowhere and like why are you getting mad at cynthia because if there was anyone who was holding up the cleaners it was clearly production to elicit this exact response from you you know that cynthia probably had to tell production like i've got to call the cleaners and then the production's like okay we'll get whoever to clean it and the production's like don't do it till tomorrow and see let's watch shamia and kelly lose their minds like it's like a very obvious ploy to me and shimia is just falling right into it so synth is like i'm doing the best that i can do like like calm the down are you in your room right now you're not so stop complaining and kelly's like we appreciate you and shimia's like yeah i mean i don't know why you're feeling like we don't appreciate you because you're sitting here still complaining about your room not being clean and you're being passive-aggressive about it.

37:21Ben Mandelker: Yeah, you guys are being obnoxious.

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39:41Ronnie Karam: And Kelly goes, can I just say this? You know, when you're in a space and you're traveling, you at least want something comparable to what you're used to. No.

39:50Ben Mandelker: What? I would never.

39:53Ronnie Karam: No, you don't get to do that when you're on a group vacation. Shamia lives in a mall house. What does she get a mall house every time we go on vacation with them? Stay home. I don't want to go on vacation with you. And you're accustomed to stuff not being paid and your stuff being foreclosed on. So do you want notices on your door? Would that make you feel more comfortable?

40:11Ben Mandelker: Yeah, yeah. I don't think this is like divorce where you would like to have like your lifestyle that you've become accustomed to. It's like divorcing Cynthia. I mean, look, I'm not going to get like outrageous on this point. Like obviously when you travel, you want your accommodations to be nice. Yes. but like in this moment like where kelly is now saying like oh i need this to be comparable to what i'm used to i'm like okay zsa gabor let's relax here okay like you're in a very very nice pool house that had like a pen mark on a sheet so you know and then this is where basically like drew is like but you know we're talking about you know we're talking about dirt and now you're talking about comfortability and but the fact is you had a good night's rest and you look gorgeous like and that was a good point from juice adora like your accommodations are great it just doesn't happen to be that maybe there was an issue with the cleanliness darling i love you but give me park avenue um so uh kelly's like drew says well i mean we're talking

41:18Ronnie Karam: about dirt but you know you're talking about comfortability but the fact is you had a good night rest and you look gorgeous honey you look gorgeous and kelly goes and you look like the alien in your movie and true's and true goes and what do you look like misproportioned misproportioned was hilarious i mean that was and they did a split screen of drew and the alien

41:39Ben Mandelker: and that was so mean but it was funny and then but also like kelly that was such a like a hot response to drew drew is basically saying like let's settle down and you're like you look like the alien in your movie the fact that drew said misproportioned so funny i love the the this

41:56Ronnie Karam: whole episode kelly's trying it with people and they hand her her ass every single time it's so funny like she just cannot compete you know yes i saw her on a podcast this clip she was on a youtube show or something and she's like oh you know and i'm so sick of dennis and denisha and horsia you're so sad I just cannot wait to just see them eat you up and Dennis wrote back on one and he's like there's so much I'm not even saying about this girl don't make me say it Kelly don't make me say it

42:26Ben Mandelker: I'm like come on in Dennis

42:28Ronnie Karam: normally with the guys I'm like stay out of this okay I'm like no come on in don't have us take Dennis' side

42:36Ben Mandelker: please Kelly so Cynthia goes okay stop this is where we are with everything it's not a hostage situation if you don't want to be here leave okay she's no i would never put you in a space where you did not feel comfortable that's what i'm saying she's kelly and again and i'm talking to kelly right now i hear you i hear you and i'm sorry and she goes oh it's not your fault cynthia i said that yesterday so this is i hate this thing where it's like okay you have to finally get the host to fall on their sword and be like, I am sorry. Like, oh, what? No, we weren't coming for you, even though we just lodged formal complaints for the past 10 minutes.

43:15Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and she goes, that's not your fault, Cynthia. And she goes, I'm talking to Kelly. And I was like, yes, Cynthia, yes. And so Kelly's like, oh, come on, Cynthia. They don't even cook in the big house. They only cook in the little house where we're staying. You know, we're in an outhouse. We're in the chef's house. My Versace is smelling like fried chicken, fried fish, and sea bass. Okay, so now you're mad that people are cleaning? That's what people do in houses. you're in a almost 3 000 square foot home ma 'am you're making it sound like they're making you

43:42Ben Mandelker: sleep under a stove ma 'am you know you had this entire cast over to your waffle house okay how do you think they're versace and their their their handbags and hair smelled after they went to the waffle house okay like you're not the only one who who deals with this yeah so

43:59Ronnie Karam: cynthia's basically like listen i don't want to hear anything about this room i'm sick of it They're like, okay, geez. So she basically shuts them up. And Shamia's like, oh, this is my first time meeting the do-rag 50 cent. And, you know, I met the one from Power who doesn't play that shit. But this is the first time I met this one.

44:20Ben Mandelker: It's not that deep, Shamia. Cynthia was just mainly checking you and being like, okay, you guys have tried it. You guys had your scene. Like, stop trying to make me look like a shitty host right now. You're so lucky I invited you along to this.

44:33Ronnie Karam: You know what all you need to be saying right now, Shamia, is I'm sorry, Fofty. That's all I want to hear. Okay.

44:41Ben Mandelker: So meanwhile, and the other, so they're all like have a bad vibe in their car. And the other bus, everyone's having a great time. They're all just like dancing and partying. So then we come back to the Cynthia bus. And Drew's like, so what's going on for the gala tomorrow? She's like, well, at this point, child, I don't have the strength. What's the bandwidth to even worry about it? they're like well and pinky's like drew is your boo coming and so they're talking about black and drew's like oh black you mean my friend what like yes i talked to black last night i told him derrick was coming and because like oh you're so spin they're like oh my god black black and derrick and so they're asking like drew saying that she really loves she just loves black and like oh my

45:23Ronnie Karam: got l-o-v-e l-o-v-e whoa love wow oh love ralph's gonna have to get out of the basement so then in the other car um portia's asking what she thinks about drew and she's like you know this is my second time seeing drew i mean i don't think i really got to know drew i don't know her yet and she's like well you know it was weird we were in the bus yesterday and she said you knew black and she's like she did and then she used her little finger and i was like do not use your finger okay now the only reason i know black is is dms he's in my dm saying oh you're so fine this and that and so we see some of those dms and um she's like this young man black is salivating

46:01Ben Mandelker: okay over my cakes and we actually see her that she makes cakes she says she says this young man named black is salvatating and then she actually makes bump cakes um but i also thought so it was funny because k michelle was like yes and she used her finger when she when she said i knew him and we see like this flashback this brief moment of like drew putting her finger at i just love that all these tiny things that are totally not landing on my radar and maybe other people's radars are totally bothering k michelle all seasons like all these tiny little things like little things with porsche does or whatever she's like she's her finger when she explained that to me i don't dresser.

46:43Ronnie Karam: And we just see Drew going like this with her hands. Like, you know Black, right? You know Black. Her finger was coming at me.

46:51Ben Mandelker: That's like, dun, dun, dun.

46:54Ronnie Karam: So Angela's like, well, you know, maybe that's a conversation you need to have. We love having conversations. She's like, I don't need to talk to Drew about no man I don't want. Okay? Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one of a two-part recap. For part two, go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.

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