#3359 RHOA S17E06 Part Two: One Cattle After Another

0:00Ready or not, summer is coming. And Wayfair's Memorial Day clearance is on now. Right now through May 25th, get up to 70 % off everything home at Wayfair. Plus, score amazing doorbuster deals all sale long and surprise flash deals on Memorial Day. We're talking thousands of products at every style and budget. Now is the time to save big on must-haves for your patio, backyard, and beyond. These savings won't last. So don't wait. Shop Wayfair's Memorial Day clearance now through May 25th. Wayfair, every style, every home. Support for this podcast is brought to you by Walden University. Ever catch yourself thinking, what if I could go after what I actually want and really make a difference?

0:38You're not alone. And that's exactly why I want to tell you about Walden University. For over 50 years, Walden has helped working adults like you get the W with the knowledge and skills to build the future you want and make a difference where it matters most. If you've been waiting for the right moment, this is it. Head to waldenu.edu and take the first step. Walden University. Set a course for change. Certified to operate by Shev.

1:27Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap.

1:39Ronnie Karam: So then the other bus goes to the stockyards and we see this cattle drive start time is 1130 AM, but it's 1155 AM. So they basically walk down this old Western set street and there's cattle, you know, being walked very slowly down the street and then they're gone. And they're like, that's it yeah yeah they basically miss it they just see like the last few last few cattle walk by and then there's one cow or a bull whatever it is oxen cattle uh walks by and pinky goes oh look at angela back there and everyone's like pinky so then um now they're all like wow that's that was it that was quick like we came all the way down here to watch 30 seconds of cattle okay great.

2:24So now the other ladies arrive at the dressage and they meet the horse which is called Leo Di Cloprio.

2:37Ronnie Karam: You can only ride him if you're under 25. Yeah, exactly. So Anna, there's a lady named Anna who's the experienced curator and she's giving them all fan. and they basically all see they're looking at this horse. At one point the horse acts up and so then they're like, here meet the horse and the horse is like run! They're like run! And they all start running and screaming from the horse. Pedro falls over. So Angela goes, we've just stolen too many ponytails off their asses. They're coming for vengeance. So now they bring the horse out and they start talking about dressage and this lady is talking like she's talking to kindergartners.

3:19Ronnie Karam: She's like, this is how we do dressage and they're like yeah we're not doing that like nobody nobody's gonna nobody's gonna ride the horse like no even phaedra phaedra's like no i i'm i'm not adhesive today my wig's not glued down the producer goes so explain why you can't ride because your wig isn't glued down she goes girl i wasn't fitting to say that on tv do that with beverly hills theirs isn't tacked down either of shit and the poor trainer is like but you came all the way to texas you're supposed to be on a horse and like yeah no what part of i doing russia's under boob clinging top says this is an outfit that needs to go on a horse she's like i am just barely holding on this tape can only do so much only this cast could go to an entire event set up for them and be like yeah no we're not going to do that we're not going to we're no sorry can we have lunch now we put on cowboy outfits that's all we're doing we're gonna eat lunch now okay point us to the lunch but their karma is to have to go eat lunch in the horse pen so there's poop everywhere and it smells like poop yeah which is crazy so meanwhile over at stockyards so the stockyards i guess is that the name of the town this little old western town it's like a cute little touristy town so they're there and they're walking around and they come across a bull and and shamia is like being jokey she goes bling twice if you need help and then pinky pinky is like i'm sorry pinky is one who goes blink twice if you need help blink twice because you know she's a vegan she doesn't like what's happening to the bull yeah she's like i'm not gonna sit on that i'm not gonna sit on gunner because i'm a vegan and the horses are the cows like me too me too girl so the other ladies uh take pictures you know and um they're laughing just and this by the way this bull hates them i was just looking at them like you fucking kidding me they're gonna come over here for this picture he's like i hate you and there's like a little song moment where they do blink twice blink twice if you need help or whatever blink twice i'm vegan and yeah so they go eat really short yeah they go eat lunch and um it's all meat pretty much and she's like well i know that cynthia doesn't care about me because there's no way you're bringing me to a restaurant and the prime thing they sell on the menu is beef.

5:42Ronnie Karam: Yeah, welcome to Texas. Okay, it's hard. Enjoy your potatoes. I'm not vegan. I'm just pescatarian, but I've learned to eat a lot of potatoes. Okay. Yeah. There was nothing about this town that said vegan option. I don't think there's anything. Like you just see this town, this old Western town with cattle and lassos and all this stuff. I was like, yeah, your salad is going to come like instead of like a bread bowl it'll just be a carved out piece of filet just be like a prime rib with a hole in it with salad in the center like there's gonna be beef every everywhere yeah but what do you mean we fed that we fed that cow salad so it was vegan you can eat it so now um she just gets fries but she says it and like i'm vegan i'll just have fries oh you know what i'll say fries is like the best food group in the entire like the the entire catalog of foods first of all and you know what the second one is bread eat some bread bread and french fries yeah no but but for sure pinky is the sort of vegan that annoys people that makes people not want to be vegans because i think at this point vegan food has actually become very, very mainstream.

7:00There's vegan options in a lot of sort of these chain restaurants or not chains, but like, you know, like the Bennegan's and Applebee's or whatever, or they'll, you know, it can be made vegan. There's vegan things in the supermarket. It's like no longer just like a fringe kind of hippie option. So like, I also think to that extent, like it's not crazy to have to eat vegan food and therefore it doesn't need to be announced every single time you like talk to a waiter i'm vegan so you could just eat the eat eat the vegan option and you move on with your life you know well not at this place though they don't have that so she's like i'll have a prize i know i'm vegan i guess what i was trying to say is that like there was a period of time where like i feel like veganism was was a strange thing from the mainstream.

7:57And so when, so I felt like vegans were often had to announce veganism and sort of explain it and proselytize it. But now like, there's not really a need to, I think everyone sort of knows what it's about, you know? And maybe a vegan might disagree with me, but I just don't think it's like a thing where you have to, you have to be like, I'm a vegan. I'm a vegan. You could just eat the food, just eat the food. Like you would, like anyone else would say, like, you know if you don't like fish they just would avoid fish right well vegan's intense though

8:26Ronnie Karam: because there's like you know is this prepared with butter is this prepared with you know so you do have to ask questions and stuff as a vegan but you know you know you're in texas you know this place is going to serve me just order the fries and stop worrying about it like it's not no one's going to have i mean you know it doesn't need to be a whole court case about it yeah i mean you can obviously say is there a vegan option like you can obviously ask questions but i'm just saying like pinky just sort of reminds me of the people that make it well she has she has made it her personality because it's literally she would say that at like a you know uh tender greens she'd be like i'm vegan what can i have like literally almost everything here yeah uh so see uh cynthia is like well i'm not saying she should have packed her own snacks but if i was vegan i would know if i'm going to texas there would be a high possibility that there was going to be a lot of meat okay a Yeah.

9:20Um, so then Drew's saying how she tried to go vegan and wound up in the hospital. Um, and cause she has a blood type. Oh, and Shamia is like, I'm O negative. Oh my God. We've got something in common. And like, oh my God. She goes, if I can give you blood, if you ever need it. And I love Drew saying like, if I needed blood from Shamia, I feel like Shamia would run to the bank and she'd be like, look, everyone look at what I did. you know she'd be on social media twerking on the blood and she would throw a whole blood donation parade in decatur to let everyone know that she donated me blood i was like that's absolutely 100 correct that's exactly what she'll be able to do blood o 'clock i was like what would i do i would have to call you on my deathbed and she's like well there's just one thing you got to

10:05Ronnie Karam: say one little thing maybe i'm sorry and she's like oh oh is that what it would take for me a genuine apology. She goes, okay, do you want to apologize at the same time? One, two, three, go. And so they stand up to do it to each other's face. And Drew's like, well, okay, I'll say sorry as long as you leave your mom and the generational thing over there. Okay, the generational gang up. You can keep that. So Shumi is like, you can't sneak in something about my mom and think I'm not going to talk about it? Oh God, she didn't say anything about your mom. She said, have your mom stop confronting me in public.

10:40Ronnie Karam: It's not the same. She didn't call your mom a name. But I do think though, if you are going to apologize, like that was like a little dig right there, right before the apology. I was like, well, you can't do that. True. If you guys are going to apologize, you apologize. And it's like an apology, but now you're erring a grievance. Like if you're bringing up new evidence in the conclusion and you can't do that. So like, it's like, okay, well this is, this is ruined for right now. And Shamia is like, I'm trying to talk with you. She's like, well, me talking to Jesus has nothing to do with me. not listening to you and Cynthia's like okay okay can you guys sit down we're in the rest of your eyes you guys are obviously not apologizing because I think Pinky was standing up at this point too I don't know why but Pinky stood up yeah and Kelly's like um I don't think they're even getting close I mean I don't know if this is like a bad breakup like Destiny's Child but we you know who's we know who's Beyonce and who's Latoya and they show um Horsha

11:41Yeah, by the way, I really noticed Kelly's sippy cup work this week. Ever since you pointed it out last week, I was like, oh.

11:49Ronnie Karam: It's constant. It's constant. It's like Mari Sol's, you know, bedazzled cup on Real Housewives of Miami. Cockies. Cockies. Yeah. By the way, as long as we're mentioning Miami, still no word on Miami coming back. And also no word on Ladies of London getting renewed because Bravo announced a whole bunch of shows that were renewed today because they have their upfronts. And we also know some new shows that are going to be happening. I'm suddenly blanking on what those new shows are, which maybe that speaks to how appealing they were to me. But I do know that on Peacock, they're going to have a show about Madison LaCroix.

12:27It's going to be like salon confessions where people come into her salon and then like talk about their lives, which sounds really compelling for someone. And then there's also going to be a show that's going to follow some girls in college in down in Florida starring Heather Gay's daughter, Georgia. So for everyone who wanted more Heather Gay family content, that's coming your way. And yeah, I don't remember. Let's talk about him on the bonus episode this week.

12:55Ronnie Karam: That would be fun. Let's go over all the shows. Well, yeah. Well, we also have a new trailer for Next Gen New York City, which is landing later today. Oh, nice. There we go. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial. Lately, I've been more intentional about what I wear day to day, and I'm leaning into pieces that feel easy and comfortable but still put together. It just makes getting dressed simpler. Quince has been my go-to. The fabrics feel elevated, the fits are clean, and everything just works without needing to overthink it. Quinn's has all the wardrobe staples for spring.

13:31Think 100 % European linen shorts and shirts from$34. Lightweight, breathable, and comfortable, but still look put together and clean in 100 % Pima cotton tees with a softness that has to be felt, Ronnie.

13:44Ronnie Karam: Their pants also hit that same balance, relaxed and comfortable, but still polished enough to wear pretty much anywhere. Everything is priced 50 to 80 % less than what you'd find at similar brands. And Quince works directly with ethical factories and cuts out the middlemen. So you're getting premium materials without the markup. Let me tell you something. That Mongolian cashmere sweater that I got from Quince, that is like a real icebreaker at parties. Because when people ask me about that sweater, and I'm like, oh, I got it at Quince. They're like, oh my God, I have one from Quince too. And then we bond.

14:12You would actually would never think a Mongolian cashmere sweater could be such a bonding thing. But it is a lovely, luxurious item.

14:18Ronnie Karam: refresh your everyday with luxury you'll actually use head to quince.com slash crappins for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns now available in canada too that's q u i n c e.com slash crappins for free shipping and 365 day returns quince.com slash crappins

14:43Go on, get a little out there into the big heart of Nevada, where you can go off-road and off the map on two lakes or on horseback. Dip into hot springs and dive into deserts. Climb a mountain or make your best effort. See thousands of stars in some of the darkest skies. Stake out haunted hotels. Can you make it to sunrise? There's always something new to see because we've got plenty of space to just be. plan your trip at travelnevada.com

15:15Ronnie Karam: okay so Porsche they have to go eat in the horse stables like I said there's like a table set up and um a horse has braids and Porsche is like yes go naked hair yeah so uh the horse is like please don't take my tail um Porsche Porsche says that go naked hair has been around for 10 years which is actually pretty wild. I think a few episodes ago, I was kind of shading Portia. I was like, what is Portia? I was like, Portia's acting like she's such a big business woman. But the truth is, cause she was like, as a business woman, I was like, is that your defining feature? But it turns out go naked hair has been around for 10 years and has been an over a seven figure earner every year.

15:56So look, I got to eat my words here. Like she does have a legitimate business. And she's like, and I see these horses hair look good and I can make some money off this herd. that's exactly what the horses love to hear thanks for coming i'm letting you ride on my back

16:12Ronnie Karam: and they're gonna take my my hair and angel's like wow we get to sit at a table set up in the middle of horse manure great so there's a sommelier and he's an italian guy he's like do you like italian wine and phaedra says i like my italian man oh i'm in my dating era you know chi chi's fun, but I just see him when I want and that's it. But I'm open to dating an Italian man. He can keep his wine. Just bring your wallet. I don't think the sommelier in the middle of the horse shit horse stable is rich, but I mean, I guess. How are you going to know what fruit is on top until you climb the tree? Well, I started dating a very handsome Italian man.

16:56His name was Leo DiCaprio. Phaedra, that's the horse. never mind um so they have to they're sitting there in the like having a meal in the stables the horse's heads are poking out the horses are just watching like can i have some can have some and um the sommelier pours them all in wine and inevitably as we see it's approaching this moment he's like the proper way the proper way to drink the wine is you have to first you put your nose down you take a sniff of the wines they all are sniffing in the wine but of course you're just all smelling manure and they're like although I am like Elaine Bennis on Seinfeld and I really enjoy the smell of manure.

17:37Call me crazy. Remember that Seinfeld episode where Elaine goes, I love manure. Weird. I enjoy manure smell. I don't enjoy manure itself.

17:50Ronnie Karam: I always know when my parents still lived in El Paso where I grew up, you know like driving from LA to El Paso you know right when you're about to hit El Paso because you smell the manure. It's like, oh, welcome home. I mean, I don't love it. I don't seek it out. But if I smell it, I knock roast out. I'm like, oh, it's a firm smell. But I don't think I want to smell it while I drink my wine. That's for sure. Yeah, there's a place. There's a place for your manure kink, Ben. Okay, it's not here. So, okay, Michelle's like, it's like having dinner in the bathroom. so now um he pours wine and teaches them to say salute ragazzi and porsche's like and um so now they're just laughing and having a good time and k michelle's like this is the porsche i've loved for years i mean even that little sneaky snake phaedra i mean i'm kind of getting her southern charm now today made me think maybe there is something in each one of these ladies that i could build a friendship from i still don't really understand the phaedra thing like the Porsche that the guy can understand it hit a sensitivity, but she really was like, I'm just like, I'm never going to trust her again.

18:58After that, I was like, well, that's, that's a bit intense, you know? So then, uh, yeah. So she's like, no, maybe they are all, they are all okay people. Um, so now I'm back at the other place at the restaurant. Kelly is, um, asking about what happened last night. And Cynthia is like, yeah, Pinky, you and Angela, I walked away for two seconds and came back and you guys were in a full on battle. And Pinky's like, well, she said that i seem bothered and she's like syphia's like but you were bothered it's like well i mean did i need to come like that maybe not like she's beneath my tax bracket like i shouldn't even be arguing like that ma 'am you just wrote the song about bankruptcy you are bankrupt what

19:39Ronnie Karam: are you talking about so um they're like that's not nice and kelly says well i get it i mean big angela is below her tax bracket which is what she very could well be you know i don't know what it is that Angela even does. So Pinky's like, I mean, she even talked about you. And Kelly says, wait, how did I get in it? She's like, yeah, she said that you said frickin' frack is whack. Ooh. And Kelly's like, well, I did say that, and I'll save it to frickin' frack too, because the energy with Portia is you can't expect for me to allow you just to sit there and tell lies and play with me. So Pinky is like, well, I told her what you said seemed hurtful.

20:16And she was like, well, it was true. And Kelly says, and well, I mean, the things that I said about her are true. So, so she said it to hurt feelings, right? So I guess, you know, I think at the end of the day, he could nothing for nothing. And hurt people try to hurt people. And that's something that she just has to deal with.

20:35Ronnie Karam: So Kelly's like, well, at this point, I'm really sick of horseshock.

20:44You already, you already did it. You already said it. You already made the joke.

20:48Ronnie Karam: 20 times so Cynthia's like well Pinky last night you made a couple of us very uncomfortable and she's like what and she goes yeah and she's like well but and Drew says well your intention was good right Cynthia and she's like there's no intention and there's intention and there's delivery and Shamia's looking confused and Pinky says well when I was talking to Cynthia they said my tone was a little aggressive and Cynthia said well it was Kurt it was Kurt and I received what you were saying, but I do feel like there's a reason it ended up going left. You know, first of all, you didn't have the backstory.

21:23Ronnie Karam: She goes, no, no, I did have the backstory because Shamia showed me the picture. I saw the picture. And Cynthia says, well, you didn't have my backstory. She says, well, they asked me how it was going in the room, and so I communicated what was happening. Yes, because, yes, but again, the puzzle doesn't have just one piece. And Picky's like, you're right, you're right, but are those pieces vegan? He's like, well, it just takes a lot to put it all together. She goes, but Shamia called you. She goes, and we had a talk. And we laughed. And we had done a bunch of things by the time we got to you respectfully.

21:57She's kind of like, you don't know what you're talking about. And you came in hot about something. You have no idea what happened.

22:03Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and Pinky's like, we did, but let's be clear. And she's like, oh, I'm clear. She goes, that was my first time having a conversation with you guys after I had a conversation with them. So you can imagine, they're coming to me. She goes, yeah, you came in hot. She goes, well, okay, the table was messy, but I've moved on. It's a new day. And she goes, okay, so can we open up the floor to questions before you close it out? Because you start a conversation and then you run the conversation. And she's like, and Drew's like, yeah. And she goes, nobody asked you, Sally Mae. So I was like, I don't need to hear it from you, Sally Mae.

22:35Ronnie Karam: So you're calling another person, Port. You've got to stop doing that when you're broke and bankrupt, okay? And crying on camera about it. Like you, that's not, it doesn't have as much power as you think it does, ma 'am. I know. Also, by the way, I love that Cynthia said this thing about like, uh, can we open up the floor for questions before you close this out? Because I love that Cynthia comes to Pinky with a grievance, which was, look, I felt like your energy was off. I didn't, I think you came in a little hot yesterday and Pinky goes, okay, well, um, I'm, I feel better about it today. So I'm moving on.

23:05It's like, no, no, no, you're not, you don't, the person with the grievance is the one who gets to say that they're moving on and that they feel they feel okay with the resolution you being the party that is in question don't get to just announce well i'm moving on so uh thank you for bringing this to my attention that's not how it works so drew's like yeah that was a little

23:26Ronnie Karam: aggressive and pinky's like it is disrespectful to call someone aggressive especially with all black women have to go through and if you feel my aggressiveness is taking up space in your little world, then I'll be aggressive. But what you will not do is disrespect me because I'm powerful and I'm strong and I stand in my truth. Yeah, but I think you stand in your truth. But I think what Cynthia is trying to say is that you are not standing in the truth, which is that there was a larger context to the conversation and the situation that you just came in hot about. And it's not your business. It's not even your truth.

23:59Ronnie Karam: It's not your room. so um and if it were your business it would be bankrupt yes yeah pay your employees so cynthia's like uh you're gonna get the energy you put out now she's like but listen it is what it is kelly's like well maybe we should just get our food to go i guess i'll get my fries to go in a vegan box please because that's what i'm in um so uh now and the other car come back from the horse farm uh kay says she's gonna find uh has a porsche song she can find a song for porsche to sing and then they see we just see clips of porsche singing flatline from 2014 and she's like got on the track for three weeks so now we go to the main house and cynthia's lying on her bed sleeping and drew comes in and she's like oh i was just i had too much tequila at lunch and so they sit on the bed and talk and uh cynthia's like you know i was just stressed about the Shami and Kelly thing.

24:56Ronnie Karam: And she's like, oh, but their rooms are clean now, right? And then we cut to the pool house and they're like dancing all over each other. They're like, yes, our room's clean. Yes. Yeah, exactly. And so Cynthia is like, but what's the real issue? Because I feel like it's bigger than the room. I mean, a lot of things are bigger than the room, to be fair. But I think this issue is bigger than the room too. And I feel like whatever's going on, I don't think it's just about the room. So Cynthia has a feeling that maybe this is what Shamia is really upset about and probably Kelly too, is that they're not part of the main house.

25:30And especially given that Shamia and Portia are sort of in a weird place. You know, I think that she says that she feels that Shamia may feel a little dejected, you know, and she's saying, Shamia still feels like a little attached. Well, she was, and now she's feeling detached.

25:45Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she's like, so what's, it's something deeper, I'm sure. And Drew goes, yeah, and she covers it with twerking. you know she covers it with jokes she's like yeah i mean what is that what is that little dance that she does and then shimmy starts i mean drew starts imitating shimmy his dance and then they put a split screen up and then they both start yelling at the same time shot o 'clock and then we see a lengthy montage that shows just how many times shimmy has done this little dance over and over and over again but you know shimmy probably watched that back last night and was like so good so funny i'm so glad my dance is finally getting recognition yeah she's like it's my greatest hits so then we go back to the car with the other girls and porsche's like yeah cynthia was really hurt number one they didn't like a room and it was dirty or whatever it was and you know kelly and shimia know cynthia they didn't just meet her this is not somebody who just planned a trip and k's like yeah well i've only gotten good person from shimia okay she's beautiful she's a chocolate woman and i love sleeping with chocolate women they're amazing so Maybe I just wouldn't see it.

26:51I'm like, what are you talking about? She'll say, oh, I do think that chocolate women are beautiful. That's the type of women I like sleeping with because I'm gay on holidays. When all the women walk up to me at my show and they'll be like, a holiday's coming up, so holiday, that's my pass.

27:08Ronnie Karam: Okay. So then Kelly goes to the tiny house to see Pinky. And she's like, I'm just here to make sure there's no wives in the basement. and then back to Cynthia and Drew. Drew's like, well, how do you feel about Pinky? And she's like, you know what? I have to say this, but Pinky's kind of hard for me because her energy, you know, she's the energy police and, you know, it just turns the energy. She goes, yeah, that's like Baltimore energy. Yeah, that's like energy of people who know how to hammer the shell off of a crab and I don't want that energy around me. That's the energy of people who have a really good aquarium.

27:47Ronnie Karam: oh she's like yeah it's too much i mean for these conversations to go that way i mean it's going to be an energy drainer and she's like i can't do it i can't do it so now pinky is talking to kelly in the tiny house and she's like you know i'm very mindful of my energy because you know i'm around energy you know and i'm rich you know and like to be around all these women who just aren't as rich as me you know i'm usually around my husband and i just don't have patience for bullshit. I don't like when people are like, I'm not a girl's girl. I really only get along with guys. Then go be on a guy's show because we don't have time for that here.

28:20Ronnie Karam: It was a girl's show. The thing is she's saying she doesn't have patience for bullshit, but what is the bullshit that she's been having to wade through? She's the one who's been offering up so much of the bullshit. So then Drew and Cynthia are still talking and Drew's saying how Pinky inserts herself into everyone's drama and says, please uninsert, ma 'am. Please uninsert, uninsert, uninsert. So back in the tiny house, Pinky is saying like, I'm like, damn, like, is this the energy you all have every single day? Everyone's talking about energy this episode. Everyone's very concerned about the energy that's going around.

28:55So Kelly is like, well, you know, you got to think about it when you're in a group of women that really don't have a lot of things going on. Oh, okay. Kelly's failing waffles are the thing. God, I sound like Donald Trump there. I apologize. Failing waffles. Kelly on a failing waffles. She's like, yeah, they don't do anything.

29:18Ronnie Karam: But, you know, me and you are business women. So we're like a different kind of woman. So, yeah, we get each other. But those ladies, they just don't know enough. They're not like smart enough to like get us. Your businesses are both failing. What are you talking about? Stop. Just stop. Oh, my God. I get it. Like they are dealing with like probably a level of litigation that no one else has dealing with at the moment except maybe angela and i mean i don't know it seems like everyone's going bankrupt on this show so they're dealing with that it's annoying for sure there's a lot of stuff on their plate and unfortunately for pinky that stuff was only fries um but at the same time like you don't get like a red badge of courage for this in this case but that's not what they're saying they're saying like we're business women they're just women who need to who do need to make something out of nothing like they don't right it's like going on like us we're smart businesswomen yeah but you two are the ones making everything every little petty thing a huge thing like pinky's making room accommodations this thing kelly you're making the room accommodations this thing then you're coming at like you're saying porsche or horsha every two seconds like you're just you're being just as petty you guys are ridiculous well it almost we're businesswomen so no one can understand us i also feel like normally if i were if i were to hear sort of the argument of like, listen, I have like businesses that I'm running.

30:42I'm out there in the real world dealing with employees, lawyers, all sorts of things, customers, clients, et cetera. I deal with real deal things. Normally what comes next is I don't have time to deal with the petty bullshit of like the duvet is not clean. But in this case, Kelly is like, I am in the real world i'm dealing with all this shit which is why a dirty duvet really bothers me the most like it's it should be that like you you know what real concerns are and this is not a real concern

31:15Ronnie Karam: and kelly's like well i'm self-made right so our resilience i mean it hits a little bit different than others and pika's like yeah i'm self-made too well you're not self-saved that's for sure and she's like and it hits a little different and i built my business for my back and angela has to lay on her back okay that's you're laying on your back to get the money from your husband to pay off your your bankruptcy like that's so offensive to say to somebody else like why why like why are you being so misogynistic to the other people when you are living off your husband in the same way by taking five million dollars to pay off your bankruptcy yeah and by the way i fully support that too because you're in a union and like you would like that's what people do for each other but like why are you shaming Angela for this?

31:58Yeah, I'm not even not supporting it.

32:00Ronnie Karam: I'm just saying it's so hypocritical to shame other people. Like these women are so weak. And not only are you taking money from your husband, it's steak money. It's meat money. You are taking dead animal money to save your vegan business. So whatever lady, fucking hypocrite. Yeah. So back up with Drew and Cynthia. They're determined to have a really good dinner tonight and they're going to go to a really nice place in Dallas and it's going to be a reset. So now it's time to go out for dinner and everyone's getting on this bus and various members of the group need a hoist, which is really funny.

32:36They can't get up in their tight outfits. Yeah. So Shimmy is like, okay, everybody,

32:42Ronnie Karam: I've got a public service announcement. Baby, our shit is the bomb, you hear me? And we're in there now. We laid in our beds and everything. Wow. She's like, guys, the room is clean. I'm like, okay, you're trying to turn it around because you've probably gotten feedback that you guys are acting like downers and it's too late. So Cynthia's like, oh God, praise the Lord. They got an exorcism, but they were in there. Commercials, here comes one right now. Grilling season is finally here and let's be honest, the difference between a good cookout and a great one comes down to the quality of your meat.

33:23You can have the best grill setup in the world, but if what you're cooking isn't great, it shows. That's why I've been using ButcherBox. They deliver premium, responsibly sourced meat right to your door, so you're starting off with the good stuff every time.

33:40Ronnie Karam: ButcherBox delivers over 100 premium protein options straight to your door, from grass-fed beef to wild-caught seafood. It's all raised and sourced the right way. No antibiotics, no added hormones, no fillers, just clean, reliable protein. You can feel good serving. And especially during the grilling season, that quality really matters. Better meat means better flavor and fewer mistakes on the grill and meals that actually live up to the moment, whether it's a quick weeknight dinner or a full weekend cookout. I have several chicken breasts in my fridge thawing as we speak from ButcherBox because I am planning to do one of my favorite dishes of all time, which is a Greek garlic and oregano grilled chicken.

34:20And so my grill better get ready for the good times that are about to happen.

34:24Ronnie Karam: As an exclusive offer, new listeners can get their choice between free sirloin tips, ground beef or chicken wings in every box for life. Plus$20 when you go to butcherbox.com slash crappins. That's right, your choice of free sirloin tips, ground beef, or chicken wings in every box for life, plus$20 off your first box and free shipping always. That's butcherbox.com slash crappins. Don't forget to use our link so they know we sent you. Ready or not, summer is coming, and Wayfair's Memorial Day clearance is on now. Right now through May 25th, get up to 70 % off everything home at Wayfair. Plus, score amazing doorbuster deals all sale long and surprise flash deals on Memorial Day.

35:08We're talking thousands of products at every style and budget. Now is the time to save big on must-haves for your patio, backyard, and beyond. These savings won't last, so don't wait. Shop Wayfair's Memorial Day clearance now through May 25th. Wayfair, every style, every home.

35:27Ronnie Karam: So now they're on the road and they're asking each other about their days. and Shamia goes, we didn't herd the cattle. We just heard the cattle. Like we heard it. Heard, heard the cattle. Heard, heard. Like John heard the actor, but like the verb, heard, heard. Like, okay. So Drew goes, yeah, we watched them. It was like a cattle parade. It was like 20 of them walking right past us. And we were like, oh, there they go. There they go. Cynthia goes, well, I heard that you dressage people had a blast. Like, yeah, it was great. And then they're just basically comparing the stories. And Kay Michelle tells them how they had to, they ate in stables.

36:06And she's like, I mean, we're going to eat in the stables with horses? Now, they had me in tears. I have not laughed that hard to the point of the tears. Although, I will say this. That horse looked at me in a strange way, and I did not appreciate that whatsoever. I'm not going to look at a horse again. I don't like horses now.

36:19Ronnie Karam: Okay, well, let's play a game. Each person tell us something that they've learned about each person that they didn't know before the trip. And Kay's like, well, I didn't know that Phaedra was actually nice. And they start cracking up. And she's like, well, I guess I'm glad you got a chance to ride with me. And so she's like, yeah, this will be my first girls' trip. The most shocking thing, walking through that airport, white ladies coming up and going, oh, my God, it's Phaedra. I'm like, Phaedra? I mean, if I didn't learn nothing else, I know that Phaedra Parks is a household white lady name. She's like, what?

36:53People know about Phaedra? so um uh angela is saying um she's saying well i will say i know that porsche is the key like she is a time and a half but you know when your wig is slipping you know you try to you're like holding on and porsche is just like ripping it off just snatch it off when you're getting out of the car you know porsche she's like yeah because we got a we got we got a sleepy claws where we were riding so long once i used my wig as a pillow they're basically just like cracking up in the back of the van. They're just telling stories. And then Shamia, they're all having fun laughing, and then Shamia does the thing where she's like, guys, let's be serious.

37:28I didn't know, Kay Michelle, last night at the pool when we were talking, I didn't realize how much you'd gone through and why you had such resistance and hesitation when it came to being part of girl groups. Which, by the way, girl groups is code for reality shows.

37:44Ronnie Karam: Yeah. She's like, yeah, I'm dealing with those girl groups in Atlanta. I mean, that's why I'm so rebellious. They tried to make Atlanta be hell for me. They were awful. And I just kept fighting for my career. I just kept fighting. Well, hearing you talk about it just made me it opened my eyes to just so many things. So I'm so happy that you were so open and vulnerable. Can you not bring the mood down? Yeah, that's all she can do. She's a mood killer. She had a bad time on VH1. I think it's so funny that we've heard so many trauma. We've had like every trauma storyline on these shows you know and it goes from silly to like really really deep and dark but this is the first trauma storyline that we've had was like i've been on love and hip-hop oh so hard oh my god you poor thing welcome to atlanta welcome to real house of atlanta baby you'll be okay here so then kelly says by the way girls i just i really appreciate you ladies your comments and your support at my opening that meant everything to me it really did and then angela who was at the opening goes who all was there

38:56Ronnie Karam: or she's like oh god or she starts making faces because she knows what's coming and so um kelly's like um okay angela so who all was there you know i mean clearly you know who was there and you know who wasn't there as well. And Portia's like, did you enjoy the event, Angela? She says, I had an amazing time. The food was good, and the flowers you sent were beautiful. Well, Kelly told me that she didn't want broken flowers from a broken person. I did. I just like, you know, I just thought, like, in our group support, I think group support is just, like, more appreciated than a flower, you know?

39:36She was like, okay, girl, my present Was not necessary. Celebrate yourself and the hot dogs. And what does she serve? Waffles? Waffles? I would not know. I'm like, well, by the way, Portia, just so you know, I fully agree. You should not have gone. But be careful when you start talking about hot dogs because. We've seen you working in a hot dog shop. Don't forget. We spent a lot of time in the world of hot dogs because of you.

40:00Ronnie Karam: So she's like, you know, just like you said, you don't mind me saying what I said in front of Kay, which is one person. I mean, you could have told me that you felt that way about me sleeping with a married man prior to doing it in an interview. And that's why I said to you what I said in front of Kay, period. And she's like, oh, so basically you wanted to reflect about how you felt about yourself in front of Kay. And she's like, no, you lied on me. She goes, I didn't lie. You didn't say that you wanted to sleep with Charles. Have you never slept with a married man? She's like, no, bitch. She's like, so you didn't sleep with R.

40:31Ronnie Karam: Kelly? You didn't sleep with R. Kelly. Portia goes bitch he wasn't fucking married at the time so yeah R. Kelly was damn sure was married she's like no he was not he was fucking not he was married he was married I'm like he was married to six people how dare can we move on from R. Kelly this is not going to go anywhere good so Pinky goes wait a minute Portia slept with R. Kelly like I believe I can fly R. Kelly the bump and grind R. Kelly same girl R. Kelly I'm like and a few other things R. Kelly by the way there's a lifetime documentary So Portia's like, Kelly. There's a lot of people from Kelly out there.

41:06There's a lot of other accolades that he has. Portia says, Kelly, this bitch has read The Pursuit of Portia. I mean, she actually read my book to come out. You know, she actually read my book to come try to read me for my book. So I really don't give a flying fuck what Kelly's talking about, but thank you for the sale.

41:23Ronnie Karam: And Portia's like, well, the truth dropped in my lap, so I brought it to you. She goes, oh, really? What truth, Portia? that you slept with a married man on BET weekend? She's like, where? Where is he? Where is he, Portia? Where is he? Okay, so now we have to actually produce witnesses. And Kelly's like, where is he? And Portia's like, after you want to fly with him, he went to your room. And like, by the way, her drawers came off after the flight. She goes, yes, my drawers did come off after the flight. You're absolutely right. I went upstairs to my room, and then I met Shamia for dinner. and I dropped my drawers in between because I changed clothes for dinner.

42:01You have to follow along. It was a good joke if you think about it. Paints a picture.

42:07Ronnie Karam: It's like, yeah, you were with a married man. She's like, I'm confused. So Portia says, this married man texted his friend who was standing next to, who I was standing next to, and the guy was literally like, I'm here in the room and just got out of the bed fucking Kelly. Thank God the producer asked this because I was like, what? And the producer says, what kind of man would text after they fucked Kelly. And she's like, well, the way he handled it was like a boy. But Kelly, you know, the way you handled it was like a slut. Okay. So then Portia's saying, yeah, you tried to call him a couple days after we talked.

42:41She's like, well, who's the guy? You did, you did this, you did this. Because she wanted to find out how does Portia know about the situation? And yes, you did. Laugh. You can laugh all you want because you definitely tried to call him. And Kelly's just trying to laugh it off. She's like, are you in a 2B movie or something? No offense, Drew. But are you in a 2B movie? Like, what are you even doing, Portia?

42:59Ronnie Karam: Oh, my gosh. So silly. And Pinky's like, it's giving more lifetime than Tubi. Okay. I've got to get myself in this argument somehow. And Drew's like, it's giving plot twists. Can I produce it? And so Kelly, Portia's like, can I, should I spell it out? And so they're saying, well, who is he? Who is he? And Phaedra's like, no, no, no. Let's not do that. And she goes, oh, you know who it is? Well, who is he, Phaedra? Tell us. and it was like ixnay on the the the aim nay because she's like for her to phaedra knows who this this guy is and she's like if you reveal this you're not going to really the person who's going to bear the brunt of this the most the one who's going to be hurt the most is going to be the wife and so she's like don't say anything which actually phaedra's response actually kind of makes me think that maybe portia is not lying here because i mean i don't know if portia's lying or not, but it moves the needle more towards oh, maybe this did happen because Phaedra's really like, don't say anything.

43:59Don't say anything. I know the family. I know the wife. I don't want to mess this up. Don't say anything.

44:04Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I don't want to fuck up their family. So let's keep it a secret that the husband's cheating on the wife and then bragging about it via text. Yeah, let's just make sure the wife just keeps on living with blinders on. Yeah, it doesn't hurt if you don't know about it. So Kelly's like, you know, don't worry about me. Worry about the motherfucking liens on your house. Worry about collecting the money. Who are you? This is, I mean, you are throwing IOUs in a bank. Like, what are you doing? Yeah, I mean, I just don't understand. Kelly and Pinky are really going hard on this. And she's also coming really hard for the, I mean, it's just silly.

44:47Ronnie Karam: So Kelly's like, yeah, worry about the liens. And she's like, I knew you were going to say that. She goes, yeah, worry about collecting your coins, Portia. She's like, yeah, I knew you were going to say that. Why don't you worry about the house you lost and the businesses you're trying to build? It's already gone. Your business is already gone. Listen, I didn't marry a man for a house. You married for funds. We will never be the same. She's like, oh, yeah, I'm missing on prenup. She's like, okay, well, I know you got that prenup because it was like, guess what? It wasn't love. And Portia's like, yeah, well, you should be able to read a legal document better than that, which I don't think there's any expectation that Kelly could read much of a legal document.

45:21So Kelly's like, well, let me tell you about a bitch like me. Bitch, you fucked, sucked, and scissored everything

45:27Ronnie Karam: in motherfucking Atlanta. And she goes, what are you trying? You tried to scissor me. Are you insane? And she goes, what? Who tried to scissor you? Get that motherfucking hot chili cheese Frito pussy. I don't want to scissor you. Motherfucking hot chili cheese Frito pussy. chili cheese what can i name after that and you know kelly you can't even diss someone well because while that's the visual of that is disgusting it also sounds delicious so like who are you trying to diss here yeah um and sometimes it feels like kelly has these pre-made insults that she's like next time she comes after me i'm gonna call her this so she's just like i don't know we'll see where this goes it's to be continued will they resolve this fight i don't know we don't know but i'll tell you one thing i was laughing the whole time yeah that was fun fun times all right everybody thank you so much for being here we'll be back a little bit later today with the real housewives of rhode island talk to you later bye watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors she answered the call it's adia paul ain't no thing like alison king our way is the amber way it's the foster and the furious it's amanda foster it's always automatic with Ashley Otto.

46:46Put your hands together for Carly Clapp. Get on the right

46:49Ronnie Karam: foot with Chrissy Offutt. She's not just a Sheila, she's a Daniela. Itchles! We never miss her call, it's Diane Call. Sunday in the Park with Dylan Clark. Big yay, it's Emily Gauthier. Erin McNicholas, she don't miss no trick-a-less. You'll never hide from Heidi Eleanor Jones. I go, you go, we all go for Hugo. Jamie, she has no less name-y. Zip some scotch with Jessica Trotz. She's a total knockout. It's Katie Manon. She's our favorite streamer, Caroline Peacock. Kristen the Piston Anderson. Que sera, sera, whatever we'll be, we'll Lauren Sillsby. She gets an A from us. It's Lindsay D. Let's give a kisserino to Lisa Lino.

47:31Ronnie Karam: Fresh as a daisy, it's Maisie McHenry. Megan Berg. You can't have a burger without the Berg. This is Livin' with Michelle Vivian. I love a ya, Olivia Williamson. She sure is swell. It's Raquel. Yes, we canna. It's Sadana. Cast a spell with Shannon Spellman. Let's share with Sharon Eldridge. Darn Skippy, it's Tippi. And our super premium sponsors. She's VVIP. It's Amanda V. Somebody get us 10 cc's of Betsy MD. We're taking the gold with Brenda Silva. Let's get real with Caitlin O 'Neill. Put us on a stretcher. It's Charlotte Fletcher. Hogle your horses. It's Christine Hogle. Don't get salty with Christine Pepper.

48:13Ronnie Karam: Can't have a meal without the Emily Sides. Who, what, why, where, and Gwen Pentland. Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall. We got our wish. It's Jen Plish. Have a kebab with K-Rob. My favorite Murdo, Karen McMurdo. Let's get savage with Laura Wildman. In the study with a candlestick, it's Leslie Peacock. We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder Barron. She's a whiz. It's Liz Sarthy. Always killing it. It's Lola Alkalani. Roger that, it's Marlis Rogers. The incredible edible Matthews sisters. She eases our woes, it's Melissa St. Rose. She's the lady of the house, it's Rachel Sherouse. There's a chance of meatballs, it's Rebecca Cloud.

48:54Ronnie Karam: She's our princess, it's Rebecca Prince. She's the queen bee, it's Sarah Lemke. We cannot tell a lie, it's Sarah Talafson. Shannon, out of a cannon, Anthony. Please don't stop, it's Solian Pop. Let's take off with Tam LaPlane. Strike a pose, it's Tori Rose. She ain't no shrinking Violet Kuchar. We love you guys.

49:20This is Hannah Burner from Giggly Squad. O-Pill is the first over-the-counter daily birth control pill available in the U.S. Let's be real, getting a birth control prescription is not always easy and it's so much admin. In fact, about a third of women face barriers to access prescription birth control between scheduling appointments, missing work, class, or just trying to exist. It's a lot. But now Opil is putting birth control in our control. Opil is a daily birth control that's FDA approved, full prescription strength, and estrogen free, and 98 % effective when used as directed. Grab it online or at most major retailers, no prescription or doctor's appointment needed.

49:58So if you're thinking about birth control, check out Opil to see if it's right for you. Use code GIGLY for 25 % off your first month of Opil at O-P-I-L-L. That's code Giggly at O-P-I-L-L.com. Birth control in your control. We love to see it. Ready or not, summer is coming. And Wayfair's Memorial Day clearance is on now. Right now through May 25th, get up to 70 % off everything home at Wayfair. Plus, score amazing doorbuster deals all sale long. And surprise flash deals on Memorial Day. We're talking thousands of products at every style and budget. Now is the time to save big on must-haves for your patio, backyard, and beyond.

50:36These savings won't last, so don't wait. Shop Wayfair's Memorial Day clearance now through May 25th. Wayfair, every style, every home. Security program on spreadsheets, new regulations piling up, and audit dread? It's time for Vanta. Vanta automates security and compliance, brings evidence into one place, and cuts audit prep by 82%. Less manual work, clearer visibility, faster deals. Zero chaos. Call it compliance, or call it compliance. Compliance. Get it? Join the 15 ,000 companies using Vanta to prove trust. Go to Vanta.com slash com.