#3363 Summer House S10E15 Part 1: It’s All Downhill From Here

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2:16Ben Mandelker: Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens?

2:46Ben Mandelker: we do that. Just some gentle reminders that we have a cabaret coming up in a few weeks in New York city and it's completely sold out. So thanks to everyone who bought tickets, but you can actually watch it with streaming. So be sure to use the links on our social media or on our website, watch what happens.com and go get your streaming links for a cabaret in the first week of June, June 3rd, June 5th, three shows. Also, patreon.com slash watch what crap. It says where you get all our beautiful Patreon content. We'll be recording a bonus episode after this one. Probably a trailer trash. We'll see.

3:23Ben Mandelker: I think it is. And also you get ad-free listening. There's a newsletter, a free newsletter that's on Patreon, Discord, all sorts of great, great stuff. Plus our video. If you want to watch our video a week before it hits, YouTube, come to our Patreon. So with that all being said, wow, Summer House. summer should be fun big big night for summer house we had a big fight we had a lot of emotions we had a a hug that lit the internet on fire it's just it was everything was happening all at once it was crazy what did you think ronnie fun times i loved it listen i love when

4:05Ronnie Karam: the men on this show fight because the men on this fight show so stupid they fight the men on this show fight so stupid every time and it's a it's a it's just a thing they do i don't know if it's like a hamptons thing what it is but they only fight by saying each other's names and it cracks me up there i mean they've done it for so many seasons and they're still doing it whenever they get in a fight they go carl kyle kyle kyle kyle kyle kyle kyle kyle kyle kyle kyle like guys we know your basic ass names okay yeah and they did that and then carl got really upset and started you know acting all tough and then waited for people to be there to hold him back to act like he was gonna get physical you know it's just typical we've been watching this show now for 10 years and they are still pulling the same shit from the first season and i loved it i loved it it

4:56Ben Mandelker: was like going home it was great it was a great fight uh also i thought this was a great episode for carl you know we've done nothing but give carl for 10 years and i think he's deserved all the we've given him but i also gotta say i thought he was really good this episode i was happy to see him actually say exactly what was on his mind to kyle at least during that fight and mouth off to kyle and i thought that was good good for carl it was like i felt like almost like and then immediately rescind it right after oh carl you know it was like a supernova that like burns bright and then like collapsed down i didn't mean anything i didn't mean no no i wasn't i wasn't offended about you uh not investing not at all oh but it also felt like we've been sitting through this precious carl for a few years now where it's like i'm just like thinking about myself i'm just like trying to protect myself oh it's like talking in therapist speak for so long and then all of a sudden like the the seeds parted and carl just started acting just like a little bit more normal you know and by normal is a wrong word that's such a loaded term but like the therapy speak sort of went away for a moment it just was like he was just saying what was on his mind and he was talking to the he was talking to other people in that way he was talking to us that way it was like oh my god carl look look at you but you know and then he sort of comes back in but i thought it

6:17Ronnie Karam: was a good episode for carl to be honest um yeah well it was it was an episode that carl was in and i enjoyed that uh it was it was a great episode this is just a great episode i mean i think what i really loved about it i mean i don't i never fall for carl's bullshit you know i have a thing i do have a thing where carl just makes me crazy i don't know i mean i do know what it is it's a lot of things but he just kind of makes me crazy so i'm never ever on carl's side and i think this was another episode where it was just like carl being carl like oh yeah like trying to look all tough in front of everybody and then immediately taking everything back like he couldn't stand behind really anything he said it's just typical wuss carl but let me tell you carl may make me crazy but he's been very entertaining on this show over the years even the boring years he's brought something he's pissed other people off you know and even when he's making me rage and scream and yell which i've done a lot of um i leave feeling like well that was something it gave me something you know so yeah it's like empty calories but they're still calories and i love calories i love them veggie crisp yeah yeah i was i was into it um but my favorite thing was that somebody was finally telling carl what we've been screaming all these years because it seems like sometimes when you watch these shows and everybody's just maybe babying the person in this in this situation carl it's like does nobody see this is anybody seeing this is it just us seeing this so it's nice to hear kyle being like fuck you carl what do i do to you nothing you bitched and wind all summer you're like oh i'm so sensitive and i loved that i loved kyle yelling at carl i was cracking that was nice too this is nice to hear nice too yeah like thank you he's like oh yeah you mr fucking sensitive carl oh yeah you're real fucking supportive of me carl yeah you bitched about me behind my back all summer like finally somebody said it carl with his well because he's kind of like kyle from real housewives of beverly hills like i've always been such a good friend to you you've been talking shit about me all year

8:18Ben Mandelker: what are you talking about yeah uh it was good it was good to hear them all get get the stuff off their chest it's it's sort of fun watching bros fight it's also funny how quickly they um they patch things up too which i enjoyed i was like cracking up at that but anyway so we're in the fight literally the episode opens up with kyle saying fuck you carl which is kind of a funny way to open up a show and yeah they're reminding each other yeah yeah yeah i didn't do it i didn't do anything to you yeah you're like oh i'm so sensitive oh no no you bitching one you bitching one oh okay okay yeah i'm sensitive could you say that's not yeah no because where the am i in your picture you loser loser so everybody inside is like uh-oh there's a fight and carl's like what

9:08Ronnie Karam: the fuck did I do to you? Nothing. Except support your fucking ass. Support you. That's all I've done.

9:14Ben Mandelker: Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've been here with you all summer.

9:17Ronnie Karam: I've been here all summer.

9:19Ben Mandelker: Sure. Sure. Thanks. Thanks. Yeah. Thanks a lot. Thanks for the support, man, bro.

9:24Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I did. When I said your DJ career was for losers and I said, like, you're a shitty husband. And when I said you, like, wouldn't invest money in me and, like, you're not there for me, I was totally there for you. What are you talking about?

9:35Ben Mandelker: Ah, really? Thanks a lot. Thanks, by the way. Thanks for your lock of sport of me you fucking loser go focus on yourself for once and he gets in his face carl

9:44Ronnie Karam: comes up and gets in his face because now people are coming out so this is when carl gets really tough because before people come out he's like hey what's wrong carl what's wrong carl like yeah what's up maybe you should calm down a little bit and then people come out and he's immediately like oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah hold me back hold me back man hold me back man yeah he always he always he

10:04Ben Mandelker: always flops around once there is like a shield of people to hold them back every single fight it's the funniest thing it's like he's like hey what are you saying to me kyle what's going on the way oh ben's here ben and cage are here oh i'm out of control and then he gets right in

10:18Ronnie Karam: kyle's face he like walks up to him and like like bows at him and uh he's like yeah i'm gonna bow you're gonna blow with me bro you know what off you six foot five okay

10:30Ben Mandelker: okay that's right i'm gonna weaponize you right um you decide to your advantage you decide to your advantage that's not fair jesse's like hey hey hey some of us are six six come on man um and then i like ben is out there he's like guys boys boys boys oh wait hold on one second i've got someone on the phone here it's sabrina bell and she says hi guys oh my god you guys are fighting i love that for you and i love when my friends fight because it means they care

11:01Ronnie Karam: i support you both so much and i just want you to remember as both of your best friends that i'm here

11:06Ben Mandelker: for you yeah yeah six foot five motherfucker you use height to your advantage really yeah go ahead

11:16Ronnie Karam: hit me hit me go ahead hit me stop that stop that let's not shame him for being tall and using height

11:23Ben Mandelker: for his advantage you do know that you have hired on him call you can really take care of him really

11:26Ronnie Karam: easily oh don't be long oh summer long he's been coming at me kyle not all fucking summer man not all fucking summer so then carl pushes jesse and kj he's like let me at him let me at him no no no

11:42Ben Mandelker: guys i think what we need to do is to come situation is just to have a little bit of a serenade so i'm just being me i'm jesse solomon just a guy watching fights that's all you can do most nights just gotta be me wait a second is kyle fighting carl and sierra's like oh my god i'm gonna beat this motherfucking ass so sierra bolts outside and lindsey the women start going outside And I was like, guys, no, no, he's not okay. No, no.

12:15Ronnie Karam: What the fuck is wrong with you? What's wrong with you? And Wes is like, Carl, Carl, you're good, okay? You're good. So now everyone's like, oh, my God, they're fighting. What's going on? Fight, fight. What the fuck is wrong with you, Carl? Get the fuck off of me.

12:29Ben Mandelker: Yeah, you're good. You're good. You're good, bro. You're good. Come on, bro. Come on down. Come on down. What's happening?

12:36Ronnie Karam: Wes is like, they're fighting. Just let him go. And then he like grabs her. She's like, Kyle. And he like comes behind her and kind of grabs her under her boobs, which is really weird. And then pulls her away and then just puts his head right up to her ear and like, he's like, don't do it. Just let Kyle's fucking himself over right now. Just let Kyle fuck himself over. Maybe we can call the police later and then bang in the closet.

13:01Ben Mandelker: Just give it a few more hours. Then we can drive off to Mexico. go so then uh kyle's like carl carl we're trying to support you and ben's like guys just chill just chill it's like everything you say is about you won't really look inside look inside look into your heart

13:23Ronnie Karam: oh kyle breathe kyle kyle breathe for a second stop kyle kyle goes inside he's like i'm sick Good as fucking shit. And the way he's walking. It's like.

13:33Ben Mandelker: He walks. He walks away that I, unfortunately. Carl and I have the same gait, which is that we keep our elbows by our hips, but our forearms flop around. It's this, like, angry penguin flop. So he walks in doing the thing, like, that I do. He's like, I'm going inside. I'm mad. So he goes inside. And then a man's like, Kyle, stop. Stop. I'm being attacked by everybody. I'm being attacked by everybody. Stop this relationship. I want to leave you. Stop.

14:01Ronnie Karam: And inside Lindsay, you know old dependable Lindsay. He's like, oh my god Carl look at me now Yeah

14:13Ronnie Karam: He's coming after me he's like flipping out everybody else

14:22Ben Mandelker: No, no Carl take a deep breath and think about all the ways that you wrong me in the past few years No, no not now Lindsay I love when your mother came up to me

14:38Ben Mandelker: You're just you

14:42Ronnie Karam: What better thing to be Than just you little short haired Lindsay

14:48Ben Mandelker: You little skank bitch How broke my son's heart Anyway have a great one You want a hug I actually love Lindsay being like Carl you stand over here it felt like lindsey has been so annoyed at carl but like in this moment it actually felt like it stepped into old-timey dynamics like okay now this is like i feel like this is probably the thaw because you know they're friends again now they were like hanging out at the up front and i feel like this was the moment of the thaw because in this moment it wasn't about like he's my ex and i and like i'm so fucking mad and it's more like this is carl the guy i've known for many years and i'm lindsey like we have a relationship that goes back many years and i can tell him

15:27Ronnie Karam: you go and stand in time out right now yeah exactly so meanwhile amanda and kyle are outside she's still like please breathe for a second he's like i'm still gonna be in the fucking frying pan she's like no one's frying anything yes they are i got bacon grease all over me no one even wipes

15:44Ben Mandelker: it off and it just coagulates i'm trying to eat healthier why is there always a frying pan no kyle please stop the metaphor we're not attacking you everyone can fuck off fuck off Okay, we need you to, Kyle, calm down We need you to calm down

16:04Ronnie Karam: And Carl's like I'm not gonna calm down I mean, he's coming after me I'm just trying to calm his ass down Okay, please don't ever work for EMS You know what I mean? Alright, I heard there's someone sick on the street here Whoa, whoa, whoa, they're swinging at me You know what, fuck you, person with a heart attack

16:21Ben Mandelker: I just need to be calm down I need somewhere soft, I need soft Take me to soft bar So fucking out of line Don't go back out there Carl There's no hogs out there Whoa really Okay I'll stay inside

16:34Ronnie Karam: I'm so sick of that frying pan I'm sick of that I'm so sick of that Why can't we just get a fucking stickless Why can't we just get a stickless

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19:39Ronnie Karam: Weight loss by HERS is not available in all 50 states. Wagovi is the registered trademark of Novo Nordisk AS. To get started and learn more, including important safety information, Wagovi clinical study information and restrictions, visit ForHERS.com. My favorite is Jesse acting like he didn't help start this whole thing. Because Jesse, you know, and we see clips throughout the episode of Jesse going up to Kyle being like, wow you know like you know carl's been so upset like he's so upset about software he wrote you like a whole email he didn't even send it hilarious and just like getting kyle up and now that kyle explodes he's like yeah i don't know it looks like maybe he's not thinking straight

20:21Ben Mandelker: i don't know what's wrong with kyle he's got his trap his white face on so then um a man is like kyle look at me for look at me for a second kyle and he's like i didn't put money into his business you know why because i put more money into my business than he could ever put it in that he ever put it and it's like so man is like covering his face like don't like don't say things that you're gonna regret i'm like don't hug people that you're gonna regret lady

20:53Ronnie Karam: yeah so carl comes back out and he's like oh i'll beat the fuck out of here okay

21:00Ben Mandelker: Watch out, here I come It's like, Carl, stop being a Vagisil I won't be degrading To women and say, don't be a vagina But what I will do is be degrading to the Vagisil brand, so don't be that brand

21:14Ronnie Karam: Don't be Vagisil Carl, how about you Stop helping women with Yeast infections

21:22Ben Mandelker: Carl How about you don't be a nationally Recognized brand that's actually successful Unlike Loverboy how about that carl's like i will literally beat the fuck out of you you know it you know i will when you look at someone who's owning something something called soft bar you know they're gonna beat the fuck out of you right carl no so i mean i was like kyle shut up i'm gonna it's like too much like i'm gonna fucking like punch you in the face stop it and so carl's like oh stop fucking

21:53Ronnie Karam: talking or i'm gonna beat your fucking ass carl wait wait hold on uh could i get some help here okay they're holding me back now yo i'm gonna beat your ass i'm gonna beat it i'll beat your

22:03Ben Mandelker: ass but first before i beat your ass i'm gonna need you to hug me oh yeah just get me ready

22:08Ronnie Karam: put your weight on me oh yeah and levi and me are watching they're like oh my god this is so intense my heart's racing man is like you could have handled that so differently kyle's like no everybody can suck my fucking dick all right you guys can do it fucking vagicill over there chef Vagicill, if your company had as much use as Vagicill, it would probably be worth something, you fucking loser. Oh yeah, I'd kick you up, I'd kick your ass.

22:36Ben Mandelker: Get out of here, Auragel. Don't need you around. You gotta stop going to CVS so much.

22:46Ronnie Karam: Fuck off, Vagicill, I've had it with you.

22:50Ben Mandelker: Oh, big Neutrogena talking over there, wow.

22:54Ronnie Karam: Oh, now you're moving on to things without a L at the end? Okay.

22:59Ben Mandelker: Yeah, because I can adapt, Carl. I can adapt.

23:02Ronnie Karam: Okay, Carl. Yeah. Okay. Kick your ass, you stupid adapting motherfucker. Okay.

23:07Ben Mandelker: Oh, Latisse over there with the long eyelashes. Congratulations.

23:14Ben Mandelker: Oh, hey, everyone. Claire all just walked in.

23:18Ronnie Karam: Okay, now I'm makeup.

23:19Ben Mandelker: Now I'm makeup. That's hair dye. Is it a hair dye?

23:23Ronnie Karam: They sell Pop-Tarts at Walgreens, right? You're a Pop-Tart.

23:29Ben Mandelker: Oh, look at this. It's a solo Cadbury cream egg that's gotten a little sticky, huh? Oh, you're in the impulse purchase aisle now? Maybe I am.

23:42Ronnie Karam: Shut up. I've heard it all summer long. And Jesse's like, clearly there's some unresolved feelings. You know, I just, I can't deal with that guy. I'm going to sign. So he leaves and Kyle's like, yeah. I got hurt, Ben. I was really hurt because she talked shit about me, and he couldn't say it to my face. Like, he's pissed I didn't invest. Like, bro, we talked about it in December 24. I said, Merry Christmas. I'm not investing, okay? And you're telling everybody you're upset about it now? Well, Santa Claus is gone, okay? You can't complain about the coal you got in your stocking in July.

24:18Ben Mandelker: Wow, big deal. Frosty the Snowman didn't invest in soft bar either. are we going to do a boycott snowman i don't think so it's just the way life goes you better be good you better be nice apparently you better be investing in software motherfucker jesus christ

24:36Ronnie Karam: ben's like hey no one's saying you're the bad guy except the entire audience all right

24:41Ben Mandelker: don't worry that's not how i feel i've been the bad guy all summer okay i'm sorry i forgot carl's six foot five and more fragile than a china doll and west is like well i can't tell

24:54Ronnie Karam: you he's really upset yeah west we see we see that west but thanks for thanks for coming in because i know yeah with the brother shit you know guess who's been there yes it's been there

25:04Ben Mandelker: for the whole brother thing okay say it no um don't say anything stupid kyle um because you don't want to um you don't want to get on the bad side of the audience so like be careful um yeah

25:17Ronnie Karam: yeah well i forgot my dad's fucking birthday last weekend so sue me all right i know me but we're

25:22Ben Mandelker: just like like this is why i like the shit's so deep because it's like um not even like about

25:27Ronnie Karam: carl maybe i don't know like what's it fucking about what the fuck yes it is about carl so

25:33Ben Mandelker: like you're mad at lindsey um because like to be totally honest lindsey just like um fucking tried to like fucking start some shit with you and like i don't know like you just got like riled because of like lindsey and like you kept looking at amanda and i was like stop looking at my girl you know and you were like looking at her and i was like i'm gonna sit behind her and then you're looking at her and i was like what that's my girl though you know you know i'm saying i like i like

25:58Ronnie Karam: when carl's even wasted he can still understand like he still can't be gaslit because he's like no because what lindsey was saying felt like something that was amanda said to her which yes that's the point that's why and now i don't love him saying fuck you to amanda he totally should not be doing that what an idiot but um i mean you get why i guess he knows that she's been talking shit to everybody now it's coming out through everybody else and he's like okay so one minute i think we're going to therapy and working on the things next thing i find out you're telling people you're leaving me and then you're you're telling lindsey all this other shit to come at me like what the hell and then just sitting there smirking while everybody's like giving me shit at dinner

26:35Ben Mandelker: yeah exactly and so west is like but um that's like kind of how like you fucking like like your shit with like amanda comes out like when other people talk to you um and things like okay all right and you know you think that she's saying it wrong you said you think that she's saying that and was like yeah and like that's like what the problem is because it was like it was like lindsey be mad at lindsey because like amanda didn't didn't fucking say anything i was like no she just stared at kyle and smiled while he like sat there and everyone grilled him although by the way People grilled him. The grilling was not undeserved, too, by the way.

27:11Ben Mandelker: But, yeah, she definitely was enjoying that moment.

27:14Ronnie Karam: So, inside, Lindsay's like, I feel bad because, like, I instigated this and I didn't mean to. But, Lindsay, you shouldn't feel bad because that man should be able to have a conversation and talk about these things without going off the deep end.

27:28Ben Mandelker: No, I only feel bad because I wanted this chef to be able to serve his whole meal and he didn't get to. So, I feel bad about that. Everything else is great. I love it.

27:36Ronnie Karam: And he's like, you're making a mountain out of a molehill. And I'm like, but, like, I'm literally asking you, like, what's your idea of partnership? Because this does not seem like a partnership.

27:47Ben Mandelker: Well, because he preaches about partnership all the time. But he wants partnership when it's me to him, but not him to me.

27:57Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and you're not wrong in anything you said. And that's why I just sat there quietly and let you do it.

28:04Ben Mandelker: so then mia's like mia goes up to carl she's like look i know you and kyle have history oh i love the guy i love him i love him i love i love that short little man and mia's like and i know you love him and i know that's why you're responding this way oh yeah and i'm just like watching crumble and he's always like woe is me woe is me i'm like carl i'm not sure people in in woe houses shouldn't be throwing woe stones yeah yeah he's throwing away his relationship for what like to

28:34Ronnie Karam: dj like what he doesn't even have his own fucking music okay like that's what you're gonna bank on next five years of your life a dj gig like i'm sorry that's insane that's insane um

28:47Ben Mandelker: carl's not necessarily wrong but also carl is the one who's made soft bar so we'll just move

28:54Ronnie Karam: Well, I mean, look, congrats on software, you know, like congrats on getting that one thing off the ground. But you're like in your 40s and that's the first thing you've ever done that stuck. So this guy's like got multiple businesses and he's actually bringing in a lot of money DJing. So I don't know. I mean, I think it's kind of weird for a 43 year old to be like, I'm leaving you DJing. But at the same time, he is bringing in money and trying to pay off his$4 million debt.

29:20Ben Mandelker: so I just think I think we sat through like a summer or two summers maybe of Carl complaining I just want to be supportive I have this vision I just want to be supportive I just want to brick and mortar I just like why can't I be supportive why can't it be like oh my god I love what you're doing instead of like that's not about my podcast remember and Lindsay's like yeah damn it

29:38Ronnie Karam: I bought him all this podcast equipment yeah so we sat through all that and now

29:42Ben Mandelker: he's like I mean really you're gonna be a DJ you don't even have your own music I'm like, Carl, do you remember your grievances? Be consistent. So Carl's like, well, I'm good. I just think I've realized that he has a lot of things that he truly needs to figure out. And until then, I think I know where I stand. It's here in the kitchen, by the way. I'm in the kitchen. I'm standing in the kitchen.

30:05Ronnie Karam: And it's much higher than he stands. So I'll just be tall over here. And Billy's like, don't go. Don't. Please don't. Please don't. We could make out of good if you don't go in there. Come on. We can make out.

30:18Ben Mandelker: Let's come on. Let's take a beat. As a musician, I know specifically what a beat is. So it's like, no, I'm not going to say anything. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm like a corpse plant. I bloomed right now. And then I won't say my real feelings for the next hundred years. Thank you very much, everyone.

30:30Ronnie Karam: Come on. We can make out again. And all the girls are like, oh, my God. Make out. Make out. Guys, it's not the time for this. Okay. This is not one of the make out games. Okay. I guess they're not going to make out. I guess we'll go back to the kitchen. This sucks. No one's making out. so then inside uh bailey's like uh wow that was pretty hot jesse's like oh i'm gonna go talk to the girls and carl's like i'll be fine i'll be fine guys don't worry about me so lindsey goes up to kyle and she's like um i was not trying to rattle you i was trying to destroy you so i i don't think you understand and i was not trying to make you mad i was trying to make you sob

31:06Ben Mandelker: we were just like all thrown by your vegas residency that like no one knew about it's like No. Ben's like, it's not a residency. It's just management. Thank you. So great when you're a model who can clarify things. Thank you. Appreciate that so much.

31:22Ronnie Karam: Yeah, well, that's the confusion because if we didn't know it was a residency, we don't even know what we're mad about. But it was misunderstood. It's just management.

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35:00Ben Mandelker: Harder, Amanda. Harder, harder. Oh, God, I've been waiting two years for one of these things. Oh, no, he throws a tantrum.

35:06Ronnie Karam: Oh, no, no, no, no. That's too hard. That's too hard.

35:08Ben Mandelker: That's too hard. Too hard. I'm a little bit like a haw. God. Wow. You know, Kyle throws a tantrum at the dinner table for, like, how many summers now? Like, am I right? High five. Whoa, my high five is very high. Sorry about that. Low five for you. Low five for me. High five for you. Okay. Oh, great.

35:23Ronnie Karam: Whatever. Six foot five high fiver.

35:26Ben Mandelker: fucking play with it with a high five hey amanda hug me you hug me you're last around me okay now that you're last around me okay come at me bro come at me bro come at me bro

35:39Ronnie Karam: yeah i just can't act like that and so dara uh dara's like oh my god are you okay talking about this do you want to because it's not your responsibility to explain what's going on with that okay you don't have to i'm dara and i'm telling you what you have to or do not have to do today do you want to talk about it do you not want to do you not want to okay are you feeling okay are you okay okay i'm gonna go on ben's room for a while no not ben's room i'm sorry that was that was outside it wasn't outside i don't know who said i went to ben's room i'll get him hold

36:07Ben Mandelker: me back hold me back hey hey wait a minute hold it back hold it mine that's mine oh i'll hold you back if someone holds me back okay wait a second we're doing the conga line what's happening um So, by the way, did you see that KJ and Dara posted something on Mother's Day? There's like a picture of him with Dara, and he's like, Happy Mother's Day to future mother or something like that to Dara. And I was like, oh, my God, is Dara pregnant? Is Dara pregnant? Is Dara pregnant? She's like, no, I'm not pregnant, guys. Yeah.

36:41Ronnie Karam: Happy birth. Happy Mother's Day to, like, the future mother of my children.

36:49Ben Mandelker: slow down there tiger slow down buddy so west is on the is on the phone on a chair on the front porch so jesse and sierra go and hang out with him and sierra's like hey bud and just like that was crazy and like one thing that is happening through this episode is that this trio is like in the wake of the resolution of an episode and a half ago uh like it's kind of like oh my god we're back we're back we're back we're back yes the trio is back again and which makes the real world news all the sadder with the whole love triangle because it's like uh you guys were in such a good place so ben is like uh with kyle he's like you want to have a seat mate just just sit down and chill just sit down sit right next to this male model and enjoy yourself okay

37:38Ronnie Karam: I had a huge conversation with the arrow on the beach. As the arrow sings, maybe you would have managed to separate for a month. Oh, and that's what's bringing up this emotion right now. So it wasn't my fault either. It wasn't my fault after all. Oh, my God. Residency management. Who knew? Didn't even have anything to do with it. Vindicated.

37:58Ben Mandelker: I just feel attacked, you know? And Lindsay's like, well, I know. And I feel really bad about that. Just kidding. I don't. But I'll tell you that. And it's like, I'm just being blamed for like everything. Like I'm in such a freaking vulnerable sensitive spot that I was like, oh my God, I can't wait for this weekend. You know, it's hard. Yeah.

38:16Ronnie Karam: And you have a lot of pressure. Yeah. And it didn't take much to just rock my world. Okay. I know Kyle, but one second, you know, you have to work on your reactions. Like you got to stop saying fuck you to Amanda. I mean, that has to stop. He's like, she deserted me. I feel like she deserted me. Even though I'm gone six months a year.

38:34Ben Mandelker: yeah and I love that Lindsay said this and maybe she feels deserted when you go and DJ and then go out and stay out late and then she's getting DMs like that leaves someone feeling abandoned as well and that's what you have to understand then he's like no sex for seven years and no attention and no friendship and no partnership will probably wear someone down so basically he's saying yeah there's a reason why I'm going out and DJing all the time it's because I am also feeling like I'm not getting I feel abandoned as well. So basically the point is they are living in a hellhole of a relationship and they both need to get up because they both feel abandoned by each other.

39:14Ben Mandelker: At a certain point, I feel like I've sort of gotten to a place where it's like a chicken and egg situation because it's like, oh my God, like Kyle has like Kyle's going off and DJing and Amanda just wants her husband. It's like fucking Kyle, you don't even realize how you're contributing the downfall of this relationship but then you see amanda being so emotionally distant and close off to kyle and you're like well you know you gotta like give something to to your man right like you got like you're in this relationship too but then you're like but she's like that because kyle's like this it was but kyle's doing that because of amanda and you realize like there's no point in seeing where this all started well there is we all know where it started which was the affair honestly that's where it all started but that was before they were even married and it was even before then because like we wouldn't have summer should be fun amanda not fun if there weren't already these issues in this relationship let's be honest i mean it started the first episode

40:04Ronnie Karam: and i say that was before the marriage not like that excuses anything by the way i'm just saying it's from the very beginning it's always been this dynamic of like oh kyle i'll come over but i don't want to keep coming over if i'm not your girlfriend well i don't want a girlfriend but then I'm not going to keep coming over. But then I need you to come over. But then I need you to be my boyfriend. Okay, we're boyfriend and girlfriend. I mean, it's been this like crying and you don't want me and na-na-na from the beginning. So it's been, that's been their thing from the beginning. I don't think they would even know how to break out of the cycle.

40:36Ronnie Karam: You know, at some point it's just like chewed up gum on the ground. You know, you see it and you're like, I didn't chew it up. I'm not cleaning that shit up. And it just stays there and it stays there and it stays there. And eventually you're done at Claire's and you're like, I do not need a piercing. I'm 50. and you walk back to your car and you end up stepping in the gum. Like you could have just bent down and cleaned up that gum and this would have been solved. But now you've ruined your Adidas. They were the only cute shoes you had.

41:00Ben Mandelker: That's 100 % what I think of. And I think ultimately, Kyle, the problem with this relationship is I think that Kyle always dangled the carrot of like, don't worry, this is what I'm doing right now is temporary and you're gonna like like you will we will reach the promised land together as a couple and then she's just always thought that she could change him and like that it's just it was never gonna work all these years but where it started hard to say but it happened all at once i think and it's terrible so kyle is now crying and he's sad and then uh outside jess is just jesse and west and Sierra hanging out and Jesse's like this is tequila rocks I don't know if you guys want something to drink right and then and Wes goes oh this is like so 2023 oh my god and Sierra goes we are so back

41:52Ronnie Karam: like Sierra no and um so yeah they're like celebrating so then Lindsay is checking with Amanda now and she's like well I mean I had a calm conversation with Kyle and I was like what you cannot do anymore is say fuck you to amanda and then he started crying and he was like but i feel deserted and then he said um he had a long conversation with sierra and she suggested maybe you take a month off and she's like yeah i told her he wouldn't go for that oh my god it's not only his choice it doesn't matter if he goes for it i think a lot of this too is because kyle has like a monologue later to himself where's all right no one's gonna listen to me i'm just going to do a days of our lives monologue in the closet and he just goes to the closet and starts talking to himself into the mic he's like yeah well this sucks because amanda's wanted to leave me forever but she won't do it because she won't fucking do anything on her own and i think that's a part of it too it's like well kyle you know kyle's paying for stuff and kyle's got the apartment and kyle pays for the car and kyle does this and kyle does that and she doesn't want to it's like leaving home you know it's like my parents are mean but i have to now pay for stuff i think this This has also been a common thread.

43:04Ronnie Karam: I was out when I was 15, but still, you know, I get the idea.

43:08Ben Mandelker: I think this is a common thread also is that I think that Kyle really, he is, I think, very alpha and he's like a self-starter and he goes and he's an entrepreneur and he goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes. And I think that's not Amanda. That's not really her vibe. And, you know, she sounds like she's not the same sort of self-starter. She's also has been very open about dealing with, you know, mental health and falling into depressions. So like, I think, I mean, Kyle struggles with Amanda being like, just not as active or as motivated. And that drives him absolutely nuts.

43:51Ben Mandelker: And I do almost wonder if now Amanda sort of she is in that kind of lane of like, I'm just going to have someone do this for me because like, what's even the point of trying to make my own decision? Because he's just going to like he's just going to railroad over my choices anyway.

44:09Ronnie Karam: Well, I mean, I think there's definitely something to him always making the decisions. and then like well what kind of person are you if you if you want to be making all the decisions and then you're with somebody who has no um no drive in them you know so what does that say about you is it like do you want a controlling thing with them or whatever i mean they're both just got so many fucked up things going on yeah so many codependent things going on that right thanks

44:37Ben Mandelker: so so man so lindsey's yeah saying this whole thing about like she says that cow got really emotional about this stuff and so amanda's like well one thing about sierra is that she tends to say out loud what i've been thinking internally which is sort of another example of someone like i want to work for amanda that's the first thing i said i was like yeah yeah i know you seem to copy

45:02Ronnie Karam: a lot of what sierra's thinking sorry go ahead ben no so she goes you know i've considered do

45:07Ben Mandelker: we separate do we break up like i've had all these thoughts and at this point all the fuck yous all the glares all the nastiness just make me feel stupid like what am i holding out for um yeah but at the same time also this is the point where you need to be the one saying these things not sierra like you you need to have the conversations and then when sierra was saying this stuff you should have said to sierra but this is something i have to talk to kyle about you know but she doesn't because she knows that sierra is going to go to bat for her and that's kind of shitty i think because it's like it's a weird position you know it's a weird thing to have this friend be the one and be like, you guys should separate.

45:43Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but there's a lot more going on than emotionally too because there is the whole lover boy thing. And that's been going on since they've been together pretty much almost the whole time they've been together. So it's like, do I leave him now? Do I leave this guy who I've been in this hellish relationship with now when basically all we have is debt? Or do I hold out hoping we can eventually sell this fucking thing and there's a payout? You know what I mean? I mean, not to be cynical, but anybody with any kind of brain in a divorce is going to be thinking that like well do i leave now or do i wait for this thing to finally be a success that i've been a part of too you know so um yeah she's very much like yeah let's see you're just saying what i'm thinking and um uh so then back in the kitchen she's like i mean this just can't be the way he handles things that was a lot and bailey's like oh my god i'm not gonna lie i did not hate angry carl that was so hot oh my god i'm so into carl guys mia's like did that turn you on a little bit oh it did it did

46:49Ben Mandelker: it did i saw the outside and i was like i was getting he was getting pulled off him and i was like oh i don't hate this i am i am ready to go grab a bowl of sweet green and do things in the

47:01Ronnie Karam: bathroom with it whoa now there's a man who can throw a salmon salad across the sweet greens right there it's like uh-oh that's pretty bad it's like you're kind of bored with carl until he shows the toxic traits and then you're like yep i'm into it let's book it which is why i can't date i'm like that you know so i see that i see that in myself i'm like no so then uh lindsay yeah nice guys finish last but they do let you finish your salmon salad and you know at some point you gotta you gotta eat the salad okay so then um bailey's like oh my god his neck was bulging his skin was like ugh i loved it he's like oh and i you know like he's got his little dog tags on wow i cannot ever get over dog tags it was just so hot i want him to make out with me again yeah i'm ready he's yelling i was like this is my husband bailey bailey it was good

47:55Ben Mandelker: That was the hottest thing I've ever seen. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Well, guess what? Tomorrow morning, he's off to marathon practice again. So I think that lady boner is about to go right back down. I'm going to go run 26 miles. Oh, not as fun. So, Kyle.

48:11Ronnie Karam: Oh, God. These are my favorite pants, by the way. They're gone.

48:15Ben Mandelker: Ben's like, no, a bit of blood might never hit anyone. We'll get it out. It's like blood. Where did the blood come from? What happened? Yeah. Was there a physical situation that happened? i feel like they didn't even touch each other so kyle's like i just wish i could control my emotions better yeah definitely definitely and i just like i feel like i just

48:35Ronnie Karam: feel like i'm drowning all right listen it's it's tough right now but hang in there mate all right it's all gonna be good one day you can meet a lady obsessed with chokers and your life will never be the same again just hang on hang on thank you thank you so in carl's room kj is like bro i was scared that you were about to hit him like that was the first time he's like probably ever seen

49:00Ben Mandelker: me up in his face like that yeah pretty much i actually i just i just want my friend to be okay that's it it's like yeah and it's just like he's like thinking like he's being painted out to be like a bad guy it's like kyle like no one's looking as a bad guy bro we just think you're a douche that's different y 'all y 'all never never not the bad guy he's not the bad guy even though i said you don't care about me you only care about yourself and i reminded him that i was 65

49:29Ronnie Karam: short short man we just want to see you grow he's like yeah i don't know where we're gonna go from here so kyle's still calling to ben i hope kyle grows too but we know it won't be up oh hey oh

49:43Ben Mandelker: high five oh sorry low five for you i'm low five for me again oh i hope he gets on platform shoes spiritually i mean of course spiritually oh soft shoes so carl carl's like dude now i gotta go by just a girl ben's like well it might be easier to have a real chat now you know now that you kind of let it out all outside now you can sit down and be like listen i don't like the way you were talking to me sabrina bell you know things like that it'll be nice it'll be good for you so

50:12Ronnie Karam: just say sorry and let's unpack it there um so mia's like oh my god this is a lot you guys and everybody's just saying oh my god it's so intense blah blah so west goes inside to see amanda of course and say oh my god was you pulling up your chair next to me to stand up for me against kyle and then they hug and hug long and hug and he kisses her head and sniffs her hair

50:40Ben Mandelker: the whole thing the whole thing and clearly if they have not been hooking up already this has got to have been at a conservative timeline this has got to have been the beginning of the emotional affair right no they found this is like a significant moment right in this timeline

50:57Ronnie Karam: those two are fucking so um he's like kissing her head and stuff and he says no problem she's like i love you i was like uh you good because he's not even gonna say it now there's no way you're not gonna get that out of him secondly i just gotta pee so now sierra goes inside and um just he's like don't worry um i'll stay out here with a watermelon okay we just see him with a

51:22Ben Mandelker: random watermelon on the porch water watermelon significant in the summer house house um so if You're seedless.

51:32Ronnie Karam: How are we supposed to procreate? Watermelon.

51:38Ben Mandelker: Watermelon.

51:40Ronnie Karam: Why are we even talking about that before our first date? I'm going to write that one down.

51:45Ben Mandelker: Spotify. So now it's time for the big Kyle and Carl summit. Tensions are high. They're at each other's throats. These two friends of 10 years, best friends even. One was the officiant in a wedding. the other one would have been a flower girl and the other one's wedding had it actually happened what will happen how will they even be able to find a way to connect are there is the abyss is so large bro pull it in i love you man i love you too man i love you too i'm so bad i just like what

52:17Ronnie Karam: i hate is not being able to support you and not being able to like i don't know i don't know how to help and i just i lost my i lost my because all i want to do is help i cracked up that after

52:28Ben Mandelker: this whole big fight. Like, fuck you, fuck you. Like, you're a six foot five loser, y 'all. Shut up, y 'all. And he's like, bring it in, bring it in. They just hug. It's like, it's so bro. It's so bro-y. Yeah, he's like, I know how much shit, too.

52:41Ronnie Karam: And he's like, and they're hugging. Carl's like, no, I'm sorry, too. You know, I made it worse. And that wasn't my intent. I was trying to find a way to calm you down, which is why I called you a loser and then told everybody your career sucked.

52:54Ben Mandelker: So I tried to calm you down, but then I realized you're so short. You already are kind of down. So I was actually trying to see if I could calm you up. Way down. Way down. Calm you up. Yeah. Pretty far down in the way.

53:08Ronnie Karam: Way down. Okay. I was trying to look at the clouds. Hey, Kyle. Did you fall down a well?

53:14Ben Mandelker: I wanted to give you some seeds so you could find my beanstalk and talk to me face to face.

53:20Ronnie Karam: Well, I was afraid you were going to get up here and try to steal my golden goose. yeah it's a different fable but that's okay no it's the same one that's the same one golden jack and the beanstalk yeah uh the giant had the golden goose and jack tried to steal it okay i mean i'm talking about the end of the woods version so we're we're new yorkers so oh yeah

53:41Ben Mandelker: yeah well you know there's giants in the scar there's giants in the hamptons hall

53:47Ronnie Karam: so i mean i've had to sell so then amanda's going upstairs and she's like oh my girls they would have hated tonight my dogs my dogs would have hated tonight you guys i'm sure your dogs hate their existence at this point poor dogs having to listen to these two seriously and the dogs have heard worse unfortunately the dogs need emotional support dogs yeah they really do especially because one of them is named

54:19Ben Mandelker: vagisil it's so awkward so kyle is like all i want to do is just like squash it because like that was heated by the way kyle kyle putting more energy and more effort into making sure like he's understood and that like carl feels like okay than he does with amanda is also kind of really sad like he puts more effort into carl's perspective i mean kind of but he's been doing

54:45Ronnie Karam: this with amanda for so long that it's like he knows he's hopeless yeah um and also i think he's still i think he still believes like amanda was the one starting all of this by going to everybody talking behind my back so he's still pissed off at amanda i'm sure he blames this whole thing with carl on amanda you know yeah i'm not saying whether that's right or not but i think that's

55:05Ben Mandelker: probably how he thinks kyle was happy because he was just happy that car he says i feel like you needed to get that out a little bit like and because like y 'all a little bit it's like it's like because carl never really says what's on his mind so kyle's just like proud of him carl's like like dude i'm not upset at all about like the soft bar investment thing i'm not even though i just screamed at you and said thanks for not supporting me but uh that's i've talked about it all season i'm not really mad at that at all yeah not at all as far as far as far as far

55:33Ronnie Karam: Yeah, you know, I thought you threw a drink at me. He goes, what? Yeah, when you got out to the front, you had your lover boy, and you threw it at the house, but I thought it was at me. So, you know, I thought it was like you throwing a drink at brick and mortar, and I got really upset.

55:50Ben Mandelker: Fuck, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that. No, no, I just want the best for you. I just want you to throw your lover boy, like, away from humans, you know? Yeah, I know. I don't know how it fucking transpired from, like, I don't know how it happens. yeah well you feel attacked i get it because i was attacked by your lover boy oh sorry i just had a flashback to that i have to remember you were not being attacked by the lover boy he meant to hit the shingles okay but i'm sorry and like when i see you tell your wife you like that's not a lie on carl that's like really out of line and you would think at this point kyle i think i was like come down enough that now he has perspective to be like yeah you're right that was up but nope he doesn't no he's like no because she's out there and i'm

56:28Ronnie Karam: talking i feel like this is how it's been like i'm taking bullets and amanda's eating it up and that's why i said fuck you you know because she's just like dude imagine feeling like your wife and your partner i mean i can't even remember the last time she stood up for me

56:42Ben Mandelker: well it makes me sad and i'm sure she's actually stood up for you quite frequently so then in sierra's rooms here and amanda are in bed and amanda's like dude when he looked at me across the table and i didn't even say anything and he was just like fuck you that was like the worst part of it and sierra's like yeah me too she's because i didn't even say anything i think what i need to do is just like put myself in someone else's shoes yeah i think that's all that's a good way to live life is to put yourself in someone else's shoes and see what they might think of a situation like any situation you might find yourself in it's good before you embark on it to say hmm well how would this person feel about that i think that's a really good idea amanda

57:25Ronnie Karam: unfortunately you don't take that advice anytime soon but when she's like look this fuck you from kyle that's never going to be okay but amanda you were sitting there smirking and smiling and like making faces at everybody during that whole thing during that dinner like amanda just being like oh my god like so innocent it's making me crazy and she's like yeah i didn't say anything so mia comes in and she's like yeah well how would you feel if that happened to one of your friend's boyfriends And she's like, I'd be fucking fighting with my friend. Like, I don't even know you guys taking, like, I wouldn't even be able to handle someone talking to my friend like that.

58:01Ben Mandelker: And I mean, the truth of this, I was just like, you know, joking about how, like, you know, when Amanda says she should like be in someone else's shoes, obviously, like, it's dramatic irony foreshadowing to what's to happen. But in this case, you actually really should do that because it's like she shouldn't be in this relationship at all. Like you, like, it's just, there's just no world in which your husband says, fuck you to you that you should ever tolerate that or be okay with that. And, uh, especially if it's on camera, if someone, if your husband feels comfortable saying that to you on camera, like, yeah, it's time to go.

58:34Ben Mandelker: It's time to death. It's over. It's done.

58:36Ronnie Karam: Yeah. You need to think of what it's like to be in someone else's shoes and those shoes need to be on a person that's walking away from something. Okay. That's right. That's with that.

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