#3371 Below Deck Down Under S04E16 Part One: A Tiger Can’t Change Its Stripes

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1:48Ben Mandelker: Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker joining me today is the one and only Ronnie Karam hi Ronnie how's it going well hello Ben well guess what we are two weeks away from our cabaret we're so excited it's gonna be just dandy go get your streaming tickets at watch what crappens.com or follow the link on our social media you have up until showtime to buy your tickets but then you'll still have a week to watch but you can only buy those tickets up until the curtain so just take care of it right now guys just do it right now just write it off check it off your list go to patreon.com slash watch with crap and get access to our weekly bonus episodes free newsletter ad free listening video video content one week before it goes to youtube all the great stuff join us over there and today we are diving into the wild and wacky world of below deck down on dot season four episode 16 it's called the garden party i don't know why it's called that except for the fact like the garden party.

2:50Ben Mandelker: And on top of that, real Bravo fans will recognize the charter guests as the stars of what was it called? Backyard envy. I did not recognize them as that. I didn't recognize them at all. Well, when Bravo was moving into the HGTV space and they had home by Bravo, they had a show about like these landscapers that would come in and renovate people's backyards. Oh, I didn't realize that was them. That was they. And it was a perfectly good show. And here they are back again, back at it. I personally enjoyed Bravo's home period. I loved the show with Carson and Tom. That was so good. Really sad that it didn't survive.

3:44That was funny. Yeah, that was a funny one. I also liked way back in the day when they had, um, see you later decorator. Oh my God. I love top design. Top design. India.

3:55Ben Mandelker: One. Yes. India Hicks. And, and season, season one, Jonathan Adler's tagline. Cause it was voter. The, the, I think the viewers voted on it was see you later decorator. But then season two, they're like, okay, we've got to get more serious. So they had the most devastating goodbye line, which was something like, you you failed to design this room properly you're going home it's just like you need it meaner just have India say it she's like you're ugly go you're going home it was so funny I actually like I recorded it and put it on YouTube years ago I wonder if I could even still find it but it was hideous as your design now go yeah they had a lot of good ones that was good the Backyard Envy one I think I watched once and I was like I'm not watching people landscape that's just not my thing and the designer one the Million Dollar Decorator was good we love that one with oh that one was great yeah Catherine Ireland sorry everyone I was trying to find the India Hicks like a sign offline and did you hear that what I just played yep okay here we go here's India Hicks Serge We can't live with your design You're going home

5:24We can't live with your design

5:26Ben Mandelker: We can't live with your design If you stay here for one more second We'll all perish Please go Serge Please Please Get this away from us We're dying We are dying of the apatry attempts to decorate this home. Go! Please get your pandemic of a design out of here. Thank you. Your design is monkeypox. Now go! We cannot live with your design. Oh, my God. And the fact that this person was named Serge, it's just so appropriate. So great. Oh, God. Anywho, Below Deck, what an episode. I'm loving this season. I love this season. What a great season. It's one of the best seasons in a while of all the below decks, I think.

6:14Ben Mandelker: A hundred percent. And to me, this is an example of below deck messiness that I enjoy versus classic below deck where it was just so over the top and they were trying so hard. I was like, I don't care about any of these people. And we're focusing so much on them making out that we're not getting into the yacht stuff. I'm like, I need to have the yacht stuff as the foundation. so that way when they're messing up with their jobs i can get upset more about the relationships that are happening after work you know and i think this one yeah i think this is a nice balance and also it's not just people like i don't know it's not just it's not like love island kind of hookups this is this is just really gross like i don't know the all the feelings i'm getting from the actual hookups are like they're they're not good they're not sexy you know what i mean i don't like i like when they're real like yeah real like you just when they're so real it's like i don't want to imagine these people fucking you know like that kind of real like it's your friends like you want to know that your friends have a sexy like a healthy sex life i don't want to think about you fucking you know what i mean i just don't i'm assuming you feel the same about me and i want my tv people to be like that too unless it's something like love island where they're kind of porn it's kind of like soft core porn where people i think watch that to watch hot people hook up this is not that i don't want that on below deck i want like homely well not homely but you know what i mean normal people it's like you know they smell like they worked all day it's just it just makes it so much more real and then you're right you know the rest of it being in where it's not all about just hot people hooking up i like yeah it's yeah now that being said and what I did not like about this episode was I don't know if I agreed with the decision to strip Jenna of one of her stripes.

8:06Ben Mandelker: I completely disagreed with that. I was pissed. I'm still pissed. I thought that was actually like really fucked up. Like I think for sure she could get like a talking to like hey just so you know like this situation is distracting other people but how many men have we watched for 10 years on all the blow decks do all sorts of things that affect the crew all the time. Play women against each other the b-fuck boys screw around all the time and like not even a slap on the wrist and here because these two fucking idiots these man babies cannot handle this situation and they have to they complain they go and they make a mess to the captain over it like then now now jenna has to lose a stripe i just think that's just like very retrograde i did not like that at all that really pissed me off that it was the men going to the captain like complaining when you guys have been doing this shit for this whole season like eddie especially to be whining like acting like such a victim what a little prick that guy is you know and then ben you're 45 or something like you're disgusting that this girl is like old enough to be your child and you're you're totally playing games as well now i'm not saying that she's not i mean this girl's a mess too jenna but jenna's a hilarious mess and you know she's a big girl enough to handle it i mean technically the reason she got demoted was because of her drunk drunken antics i guess but that wouldn't have happened had the guys not gone crying to the to the captain and i don't like the captain this captain of all the captains does nothing he doesn't like to discipline anybody he doesn't like to step in when there's a problem he's always like you guys handle it you guys handle it unless it gets so bad that he has to step in and this is when you choose to step in when someone's dick has got its feelings hurt you know that says a lot about this fucking guy and i didn't like this at all i thought this was really gross i thought it was really sexist i didn't like that daisy was playing into it either i thought that was bullshit yeah especially because daisy's walking around like fought literally so drunk she's falling down half of these episodes you know granted she's not having a fit and screaming but she hasn't been like miss innocent either and yeah i don't like this at all i don't like it at all i didn't i didn't like it and i i think that like eddie is even he's bothering me more so than ben i understand that like it's he's definitely having like a mindfuck situation but like the entitlement that he has that he carries with him is just it's to me it's like it's off the charts and i think it's it's like it speaks so much to like what I imagine women have to deal with all the time with these guys all the time and I mean Ben was Ben was bad too but I really think Eddie was worse because my memory we're getting I watched this a few days ago and so as we go through the notes I'm obviously gonna like probably like maybe pivot a little bit but my memory was more that Ben Ben went to the captain which I don't think he should have done in the first place but that Ben went and was kind of like, I need some advice on how to handle a situation.

11:07Ben Mandelker: But Eddie was fully like, I'm going to quit over this. He was going to quit over this stupid situation. I was like, you are just so obnoxious. Like, you feel like you were owed her, and because you didn't get her, you're so distraught that you're going to quit and leave everyone in the lurch, and now the captain has to do something. I just was so dismayed. Well, I think Ben is just as bad. Ben is just older, and he's more charming, and he's funnier. And so he gets off with it. you know he gets away with it i guess i should say um but he did the same exact thing he knows what he's doing when he goes to the chef and he's like oh hey we just took brother to brother friend to friend no you're talking to your boss and you know you're fucking talking to your boss and going to some guy being like can i ask your opinion on this 20 year old i'm trying to fuck you know is pretty weird and i wish that jason's advice would have been like hi why are you fucking 22 year olds You're an old man and you need to like maybe not be doing that on my boat.

12:04Like what the fuck? And why are you sleeping in the guest cabin every night with no sheets on the mattress? You know, the sheets aren't to protect you only. They're also to protect the mattress from your unhygienic slimy ass getting all over the guests in the future. What is going on in this boat?

12:20Ben Mandelker: And not for nothing, Ben was also really shitty to Eddie. Not that I want to ever take up for Eddie. but like when Eddie was distraught and Ben's like, my advice would be not to talk to her whatsoever. And so Eddie doesn't talk to her and then Ben goes in and makes out with her. So like Ben, I'm not saying Ben was the better one and like, is like some like saint in this situation. I'm just saying that like, I thought of the two evils, I thought Eddie was actually even worse. Cause I thought, I thought Eddie showed a lot of entitlement that really drove me nuts. But anyway, I think Eddie, I think what shows about Eddie, that's really dangerous.

12:50And I think like a mod, you know, not to, not to overplay it, but, um, you know it's the modern thing and i'm sure it's gone on forever but we see it a lot in in um like modern social media and stuff of these incel guys just being like they deserve it and if like somebody's not and they just assume they're gonna get the hottest girl and if they don't then it's just like fuck her you know then it's like she's the ultimate enemy now jenna yeah jenna was playing with his mind as well but you started it you were playing with her and i saw no problem a minute and the fact that he can't see any of his behaviors and what she's doing and then villainizing her to everybody on the boat she didn't do that to him she could have gone crying to the captain saying like this guy's really hurting my feelings and he's leading all these women on and doing all of this and made the captain step in but she didn't do it you fucking wuss you crying little baby i'm so sick of it i'm so sick of these fucking guys i'm sick of it you know yeah those guys are the most dangerous that act like the nice guys and every anytime you hear a guy who's like, I'm a nice guy.

13:51I'm one of the good guys. It's so hard being one of the good guys. Do not trust that man. He's evil. I've never ever met a good guy who said, God, it's so rough being one of the good guys. Those are the insults. Stay away. Yeah.

14:05Ben Mandelker: Well, I couldn't have said it better myself, and I'm sure we will continue to say it even more as we get back to it. This is our favorite season. Fuck all these people. I'm not goddamn called to me. It was so good, though. It was so good, but I was so mad at him. I mean, like he did it first he did it first he poisoned the well and then he's shocked when it happens to him and by the way he keeps forgetting the fact that she dumped him you're not in a relationship with anymore so stop acting like you're heartbroken and that you've been cheated on you're not in any sort of relationship with her she sent one flirty text was it a smart thing for her to do no but she sent one flirty text and that was it and now you're acting as if like your bride just left with the groom like the bride did for ben so he really has to get off of it like i've had enough out of him yeah jenna's messy too so like watching jenna get her come up and you know with everybody like sharing texts and being like oh well she's texting me and she's texting me i loved that because that that i was like well what do you think is gonna happen jenna you know like come on but you know taking it to the captain and then having it affect her job and stuff like that i thought was really shitty and then everyone else acting like oh my god she was so drunk and she acted so crazy like you guys are all drunk idiots and look at ellie ellie was a maniac on that boat granted she wasn't drunk but isn't that even worse when you're like that sober she was like she went she went running through the she went running through the boat screaming and caused a huge ruckus with the captain and she's gonna get promoted next week we see so yeah and let's not overlook the fact that eddie at one point sits down jenna and is absolutely rude and condescending and obnoxious to her like you may be annoyed that you felt like you were led astray, but like you were not in a relationship with her.

15:43Ben Mandelker: She does not deserve to be treated that way. And the fact that she sort of leaves up being like, well, I had to say that. Like you don't actually, you don't deserve that. You messed up and you were being messy, but he was messy first. And you know what? Like, I think that he has been waiting, waiting for a chance to be able to throw it back in her face after she read him for filth earlier in the season. And you know what, Jenna? I just wish you never even indulged him in the first place. But now here we are. let's rewind to a time before we knew any of this would happen which is where we have Ben telling Jenna he just wants to be friends with her because it's now the at this point the text messages have been compared between Eddie and Ben and Ben's like you know what I just want to be friends how about that sugar tits that would be the one I would like the most Eddie's my roommate you sent him a message saying I'm regretting my decision and she's like I never said I said I never said the word to regret he's like oh come on Stop playing everyone Toffee tits Okay you know what I'd rather just walk away Right now I don't have time Yeah And you didn't technically say regret But I mean you basically did Let's not play semantics on this one And so Jenna's like Why is she bad about the conversation So she's pissed And then Eddie is talking to Barbie And she's like um yeah I think she toys with you And at this point you just gotta let it go Barbie you've been here five minutes like yeah but like it's also like a little street in the world it's not but it's also like okay like i i know that you're coming in here to like fight some ellie battles but like give it a minute you know and i i love that barbie i actually think it's funny that barbie you know on the other hand i think it's really funny that barbie's like you know what fuck this girl jenna i'm gonna hit on eddie and then this is you know this is how she's doing it she's like she gave me a bad yes yeah that's why she never gives someone like Barbie resting bitch face.

17:38Ben Mandelker: You got to be really careful with it. Okay. Um, cause she's going to get, she can get back. Okay. Um, so as I was like, by the way, I think you and I, it just feels a little different this time. Don't you agree, Daisy? Like, you know how many times I just want to get into your bed and just cuddle. And Daisy's like, yes, of course. And that's what I want. Also. I mean, I don't mean to put this down on you, but this is, this is all about me. Okay. But meanwhile, Ben walks up and he comes over. It's like, Hey guys, Can I come sit over with you, fellow HODs? Yes, of course, of course. Are you okay, Ben?

18:11Ben Mandelker: Did you get left at the altar again? He's like, no, I'm obviously not. I'm not fucking fine, am I? Look, do you see a drink in my hand? How could I be in a good mood if I don't have a drink in my hand? She's playing with me like a fucking cat. Like a cat. Oh, God. You're playing. You're like an old cat playing with a tiny little, you know, out-of-the-box brand new toy. You're so gross. and it's not to say like the older guys can't it's not to say that older people can't date what do you laugh what do i say old cats are allowed to play with new fresh toys i know but he's like oh she's playing with me you're not the toy here okay you're not the toy here and it's not that older people can't date younger people it's not like there's anything inherently gross with that but like you have to understand there's like a maturity difference you know oh i was just by the way i was i was literally saying like old cats can play with fresh toys from the store i i had nothing to do with the dating i was not taking it from a metaphorical level i was being like standing up for older cats yeah i was purely talking about older cats you're like it's like an old cat playing with a fresh new toy it's like cat you are over nine years old it's just a ball of string for you and that's it yeah it's just him like she's playing with you like a cat no you're not the fresh toy you're the old cat okay you're the old stinky cat that hasn't had his teeth brushed for you know god erotomy yes your old your old cat deuteronomy so um daisy comes over and jenna's just sulking and you know like kind of crying and she's like oh stop it jenna and then we go back to ben and joao and ben's like oh i saw a Message to Eddie, I can't stop looking at you, and I really regret breaking up with you.

19:55And I called her out on it because I was left at the altar. I've been betrayed by everyone I've ever known.

20:02Ben Mandelker: I'm more sensitive now. Do you not remember me crying in the hot tub? I'm being a little harsh on Jenna right now, but her texting Eddie today, meanwhile, she's flirting with me at the bar. I think it's kind of inappropriate. Oh, yes. Ben. Ben, the doyen of what is appropriate and inappropriate. Perfect. This is the man who has to have a jar in the kitchen for every time he calls Ellie, you know, licorice walls. Okay. so then it's like then his like whole storyline has been sexual harassment in the workplace this season it's like yeah that's kind of inappropriate ben who knew his uh his galley hand because he was jerking off to her instagram photos before she even got on the boat okay yeah exactly it's like well i don't have enough time in the fucking world to deal with the likes of that is that bad he's always saying that you literally have time we saw you got nothing butterflies you're doing snow angels in a lagoon earlier this season.

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23:16So now we go back to Daisy and Jenna. It's like you're thriving on the attention. Which, by the way, I don't blame you. Get the attention where you can get it. And it's like, but I do like Ben's conversations, but I feel it's funny. It's like, well, there's other people's feelings involved here, Jenna. I know that.

23:34Ben Mandelker: Do you want my advice? Stay the fuck away from the two of them. Yeah, whatever. I'm just like, I love Daisy. I love Daisy Vietnam mode. It's like my favorite thing when she's like, all right, everyone shut up or I'm turning this lagoon around. We're going home. and also she's wasted which is really funny so she's like lecturing her but she's like

23:59and jenna just being wasted this whole this is why i can never hate jenna she's just so fucking funny and her chaos is so funny and daisy's like you want my advice all right stay away from jenna has been double dipping in the attention pool from both ben and eddie and

24:18Ben Mandelker: Barbie shows up, makes Jenna feel insecure, and now she's in full self-destruct mode. The boys are sharing a cabin. You're my second stew. Pick a lane and fucking stay in it, because jealousy is not a cute look. Also, both those lanes are terrible. You might as well be choosing between two dirt roads that have ten potholes in them. Good luck with your tires. If those are your two lanes, stand in the middle of the highway and just let God figure it out. Get into hang light and get off the road. Jenna's like, well now Ben wants nothing to do with me so her situation's fucked okay well tomorrow's a new day god good riddance so instead of going over to make nice with anybody I love this like at this point what do you do you know Jenna's like okay everyone's turned against me my text messages have been used against me do I go apologize to Ben do I go smooth it over nope she goes right over to Eddie and she's like how do you think I sent my text messages to everybody harder it's like no i didn't i said to ben that you still felt feelings for me i did not show him word for word the texts and then of course literally and he even says let me show you the text let me read it for you here i brought a projector from home i knew this would finally come into use let me put the text on the wall oh yeah let me let me just get this straight so eddie who was upset over somebody showing his personal text and got cried about it and got very very sensitive about it immediately goes and shows somebody's text and then lies about it what a loser and i think he feels entitled to be to be mopey because he actually developed feelings and so therefore he wins an award because he developed feelings so therefore he's entitled to also develop jealousy so jenna develop feelings you know like listen um anyone would develop feelings if somebody like that far out of our league paid us any attention you know what i mean that girl is out of your league, sir.

26:11You are not entitled to whatever you like. Okay? You're not entitled. You're like a fucking stalker mentality. Someone who sees someone in a magazine is like, that's mine. No, it's not. Earn it.

26:23Ben Mandelker: Yeah. He has the looks and the personality of an inflatable T-Rex. I'll say it right there. So Jenna goes... He looks like a duck dynasty, like young cousin or something that they have to be. He's like a bowling pin with a mustache. So Jenna's like... He's like, have I ever done that? I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. It's like, okay. So she storms off and then they get into cars and it's awkward. So Dorinda's there. Dorinda's sitting in the van and she's like, read it, say it, forget it, write it, regret it. Share it, compare it, wear it, put your near on, also here, got no care, Selma Blair, play off from facts of life who's your wife i'm gonna keep on going for the rest of my life life and life those rain it counts and so um jenna is still pissed off so now we go to the vans and um barbie's like um a weird weird night not gonna lie weird night i will lie so then uh it's like listen i gotta not be honest right now I've got to lie guys it was a great night people should just invert it see how it goes the best was Ellie she's like bye Hudson yeah she had a great time because Jenna got it from all angles Kelly loved it yeah why am I the only one having fun tonight so now Jenna's crying in her room she's like what the fuck and then Ben and Eddie are in their cabin and Ben's like well I'm gonna go to bed and then he's like well I don't fucking blame you bro holy moly she just goes you fucking have so much shit I'm like holy fuck and Ben goes okay you didn't fucking do shit okay you did you just did a little bit but not that much and then he's like well what did I do he's like well I'm sorry mate just you might want to sit down well what have I done well she was playing me and stuff like that I don't know if we're gonna gonna have a past gonna have a relationship together and she was pissing me off so much i said why did you fucking send eddie a text today and then we see a flashback of that yeah and he's like well i'll be honest i didn't even know that you two were a thing that fucked me off how did you not you did know that they were a thing though hasn't he seen them flirting and stuff because he was he was disgusted last week he's like really ben gross like what yeah so yeah you did know why are you such a fucking compulsive liar Eddie.

29:03Ben Mandelker: So then Ben goes well not a thing I just kissed her on the lips that's it maybe touched her vagina and sent my willy into her dark regions things like that and he's like what when like a week ago and of course flashback to a week ago and they show that scene of Jenna leaving Ben's room to go directly into Eddie's arms now look that was messy as hell that was messy messy messy messy but I am going to credit her that she as soon as she was messy she dumped eddie she realized she's being messy and was like no more of this dumping eddie and i i credit her for for at least uh acting quickly okay so back to present eddie's like i need to talk to her and ben's like no no you don't need to talk to us over you never have to think about her again nor do i one more betrayal under the rug and he's like but i feel bad for her oh god that's my problem.

29:59I'm just such a good person. You see, I see a weak, gorgeous woman and I know that I have a way in. That's your problem. You want your fucking way in. Get out of here and not being a good person. You see somebody when they're down and drunk.

30:13Ben Mandelker: Okay. Do not fucking go talk to her messy mustache. You've been a wuss dude. Do yourself a favor. If you're going to say anything to her, say, I'm prepared to be your friend, but I'm over you. I'm moving on. How about this? both of us pledge we will never ever ever talk to her again nor shall we kiss her especially within this first 24 hours of this discussion if you say anything to her you say listen here missy you are a parking space and I'm gonna stand here and guard you until Ben wants to park in you might not make sense now but it will later so now Eddie's like I'm going upstairs I've done nothing wrong and he's like, okay.

30:55Ben Mandelker: So now Jenna's crying to Batool. Batool's like, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow. No, stop meowing at me. I'm crying. I heard something on the boat about old cat. Do you know where it is? Because I love cats. Meow, meow. Old cat, new toys. Meow, meow. I love they just keep showing Batool walking around the boat going, meow, meow, meow, meow. So cut to Joao, Alicia, Barbie, and Daisy in the bar. and Joelle's like, what the fuck was that taxi ride? And they're like, oh my god, what happened? And Barbie's like, oh my god, Jenna's like staring at me like, oh my god, she's so jealous of me.

31:36Ben Mandelker: So knock, knock, knock, here comes Jenna on the boys' cabin. Ben, can I talk? Yes, you can talk. I would love to continue things with you, but you've given me absolute... Continue things? Not so fast. Caramel kneecaps. Because we have never even started. What are you talking about? Honestly, I just, you know what? I don't even want to think about it. I don't have time for this. No time for Ben to show. You don't give a fuck. Yeah, I don't care. Go do, I'm here to do a job. Then why the fuck you're angry then? Why, why, you're fucking, why, you're fucking right now if you're not angry. Why, if you, why are you right now?

32:13I'm not angry. I'm not angry though. I'm not though. Then what are you, freshman? Listen, no, listen. I'm trying to help Eddie out. You know, that's what I'm doing. You know, I really, I'm here, I'm a boy's boy. I'm here to take care of the boys, all right? You need to get over your differences. All right, you and Eddie.

32:31Ben Mandelker: Oh, I'm going to get out of my way. All right. Bye, everyone. Goodbye, Junior Mint Jaw. Goodbye. I'm going to slam your door. Slam. So she slams the door and is like, what the hell? And so now she's like, mumps up, idiot. So she goes upstairs. Now she's, you know, moping around. and everyone else is in the main salon and Barbie's like, wow, she's just a bit a little bit sensitive if I do say so myself. I'm like, Barbie, we've seen your season. Watch it. People in glass yachts shouldn't throw Pepsi cans.

33:07And Alicia's asking Eddie what happened and he's like, you come and tell me. Oh, they're having it out. Joy's like, Jesus fucking Christ. So now Jenna's skipping through the crew mess chatting. You got a fucking job to do, Ben. what do I fucking do right at the end of the day what do I do at the end of the day get nothing but other

33:27Ben Mandelker: and Barbie's like oh my gosh this is so scary and Ben's in his room be like don't fucking gaslight me and so Daisy's like oh god I'm so pissed about this whole situation Sean hello absolutely not stop this stop this okay you're both grounded go to your rooms I'm serious, sir. I spent 10 pounds about anything that I spent the whole while tonight. Jenna, Jenna, please. Zim, calm down, please. Zim, calm down. What do you want me to say, child? Now he's like, you're not understanding what I'm trying to say. But I don't give a fuck right now. Shut up after that. Zim, show up. So here comes Alicia. She's like, okay, don't come to me.

34:16Ben Mandelker: Let me help you here. come into my arms like here's that for what reason who do you want who do you want it is yeah who do you want like oh no that was a low blow that was a low blow jenna especially since you're talking with two guys right now stop that at least he's like damn this makes my this makes me look like child's play god i know seriously girl messy so they're trying to calm jenna down and i was It's like, Jenna's actions right now are unsubceptible. Literally running up and down the main salon, slamming doors, screaming, shouting. It's becoming poisonous and toxic and uncontrollable.

34:57That stupid thundercut fitness.

35:00Ben Mandelker: Wow. Look at Jenna. She's drunk and, like, not in bed. I mean, it was, like, annoying. I would not have liked to have dealt with her because when people are messy like that, it's annoying. but like they're acting like she was like a hurricane knocking things over so now alicia goes to eddie and she's like how fucking dare she i'm actually fucking sick of it throwing her fucking weight around causing chaos between crew members how was that acceptable hi did you see the first half of the season it was you yeah we sat through endless episodes also of you and mike bickering so let's like calm down if you want to talk about yes you were chapter one of this toxic mess ma 'am yeah let's not forget it actually started there yeah it all started with you so now in the crew mess daisy has followed jenna and she's like jenna cut the bullshit

35:57she's like walking around slamming walls and doors and stuff absolutely at least you're still

36:03Ben Mandelker: mad she's like it's absolutely deplorable you have no right to put your fucking fingers in pies that you're not even eating. And admittedly, you're not eating them because someone forgot to put the sugar in them when they made the pie. But that's an honest mistake. And that person was probably a very good person at the end of the day. Well, you don't have right to put finger in pie that you are eating if you are eating pie under the idea that you are going to give some other child. Next time, if you put a finger into a pie, make sure you do it before you hand the pie to a trash can. Next time you put your finger in a pie, make sure you put a baby inside a lady.

36:46Merge genetics. That was a merge genetics meringue.

36:51Ben Mandelker: All right, Ellie, settle down in the kitchen. I don't have time for you to find your metaphors. Sorry, just taking me a little time. That's all right, my Cadbury cubitus. Ah, I get the bean. I get the bean. so uh daisy follows jenna bed and jenna's like i'm going to bed she's like threatening to go to bed which is hilarious she's like self-grounding um so then she goes in and locks the door so barbie's like oh my god it's like an insane asylum like girl i have a therapist for you she'll do wonders which of course is reliant on us remembering that her mom is a therapist from a different franchise of below deck no because remember she came back and she's like i'm better now guys because they showed the going crazy on her season she came back like i'm great now guys but my therapist is really good barbie we have seen no proof of this okay you don't get to and and i'm in listen i know this is bravo you go to therapy one time and suddenly you're healed and you get another season jack it's called the jack's effect but you know jury's still out barbs yeah seriously please like anybody out there any therapist please just do me a favor don't fix barbie leave barbie the way she is don't fix her some things you just don't some things just don't need fixing no so daisy is trying to like go into the room but since jenna locked the door she can't get in and daisy's like jenna open the door what the fuck is happening open the door open the door open the door open the door i was like i love this version of game of thrones so um daisy's mad she doesn't like this but also leave her alone you guys have been telling her to go to bed she went to bed no way i know what else do you want go away so whatever i'm not dealing with us so now barbie and ellie's cabin barbie's like are you okay barbie's like are you okay and she's like what is even going on oh jenna she's fucking crazy like i'm done being on eddie's team like he does it to himself i mean you're chasing her around like a puppy.

38:53Like, figure your shit out, man. Jesus.

38:57Ben Mandelker: So then Ben and Alicia go to bed, and then now Daisy and Joao are in their cabin, and they're just on separate beds staring at each other. It was very Ingmar Bergman-esque. And Daisy's like, well, everything really kicked off tonight. It's like, it was zim-sane. But other than everything else, I mean, this has been my favorite season because of you. Honest to God. Yeah. It's all bad. we don't even get to focus on what a lying manipulator joao is is anybody buying this joao shit this horse shit coming out of joao like oh you are the one when are we going to talk about her relationship oh okay yeah this is my favorite season of all time because of you daisy you're the best and of course she falls was like wow okay i do like you so joao's like i know i love it you know you just compliment yourself all the time and i laugh at my own jokes in Zimbabwe they call that Zim humor.

39:52Ben Mandelker: So Daisy's like well you do laugh at your own jokes and I love that I'm your favorite season. Well I guess I'll get into your bed. Thank you for the compliment. I'm just a girl lying in front of a boy asking him to put away his boner. Thank you. I'm just a girl a girl standing in a bookstore saying people still read these things? They're so heavy. Does anyone still wear a hat so it's the next morning

40:28whatever happened to hearts where did the class go here's to the ladies who's do so eddie it's the morning eddie texts jenna and

40:40Ben Mandelker: says, can I come give you a hug? It's like, Oh my God, bro. Come on, please. So she reads the texts. She obviously is getting like instant ick, right? She sniffs her armpits and she's like, okay, armpits smell good enough. So it's, this is actually great editing. Eddie gets out of it. He gets out of his room. She gets out of her room and you're like, okay, they're going to go hug in the hallway nope she goes to the guest room and goes and finds ben i was like oh my god so she goes in with his nasty sleeping on the bear mattress ass and she's like i don't want to fight with you ben he's like i don't want to fight with you either it's all right listen everyone just got a little emotional last night that's all come on in so she gets in bed with him and they're like cuddling up and he's like it was nice of you to come in here it was really really nice of you And she goes, of course, man.

41:35The last sort of thing I wanted to do is start with you. The last thing I wanted to do. And we see Eddie walking through the hallways. Like, she's not in her room. I was trying to get her while she was vulnerable.

41:47Ben Mandelker: What's happening? Eddie just said, can I give you a hug? And I don't know if she responded. But now he's just assumes he's now entitled to give her a hug. And not only that, he can just open up any door to find that hug. Because he said that he wants to give her a hug. So, therefore, it's going to happen. and also by the way him giving the hug is to bolster his image as the nice guy so ben and jenna of course are in this room and ben's like 100 doing it because he feels like oh she's damaged so now she'll take me you know now she's crying and everybody hates her so now she'll take me it's the typical thing and then when she doesn't it's like that thing like you remember i told this story when we were in new york for the first time for crappens i was at a crosswalk and there was this guy following a girl, like just being gross, you know, this really cute girl.

42:32And he's following her. He's like, hey, hey, baby. Hey, God, you're so pretty. God, you're so gorgeous. Mm, yeah. And she was just ignoring him, staring straight ahead. And then the crosswalk changed, and she walked and didn't pay him any attention. He goes, you're fucking fat anyway, fucking ugly bitch. That's how I feel. Eddie's one of those guys. Yeah.

42:53Ben Mandelker: Yeah, exactly. Like it doesn't get his way and immediately turns. Yeah. I say something nice to you, so I'm entitled. That's a very man thing to do. I say this as a man, by the way. So Ben is like... Well, I wouldn't date me, to be fair. At least I'm as critical as myself. I'm disgusting as well, so there you go. But by the way, this is also shitty of Ben because he literally told Eddie... If Eddie did have a shot, let's say Eddie had a window with Jenna where he could have gone up and been like, I'm sorry. I came out a little hot. I really like you. If he had been planning to do that last night and Ben was like, don't say anything.

43:32Ben Mandelker: Don't talk to her. Whatever. We're both moving on. And then Ben is the one who is like now with Jenna making out with her. That's shitty right there. That's really, really shitty. Even if it is to Eddie. Yeah. I agree. So Ben's like, oh, God. Poor Eddie, right? He's like, yeah. Well, I just see him being very emotional for you. He's like, yeah. He needs to move on. I've got him attached. I've got him attached somehow. So meanwhile, Eddie's like searching the boat like, where's Jenna? Where is she? Well, Eddie, I mean, I don't think he's strong enough to be with you. Yeah, I need a dominant man.

44:11A man so I can be some messes. Yeah, I need some messes.

44:15Ben Mandelker: I need a man who, in the morning when he's lying in bed, looks like a vulture that the zoo tranquilized to get it into a cage. That's me. So then they start making out. That's what I'm saying now. Yeah, well, called it. Called that one. Just wanted to confirm. So Eddie is still looking for Jenna, ready to give a big old hug. And they make out, and then Ben just goes, you're crazy, you know, you're crazy. It's crazy. You're just so crazy. But all right, don't worry about that. That's not important. That silly man with the mustache, that VeggieTales character that's now made his way onto this boat.

44:58To think that right now we're here kissing on a mattress with no sheet on it. And in the future, you're going to be a person I'm going on Instagram accusing of betraying me. God, what story we'll have.

45:14Ben Mandelker: Anyway, I'm enjoying this moment that won't be ruined by anything or anyone. And then all of a sudden, Eddie just knocks and opens the door and pokes his head. He doesn't even knock. he just opens up and you're right like he just opens it who does that what what who does it doesn't even matter what's going on on the other side of the door you have no right to be just barging into somebody's room and it's not the first time he's done that either he did that last week too he just barged into a girl's room when he was mad looking for jenna was just like oh fuck her you don't get to just fucking barge your head into everybody's room what's wrong with you you can't barge also like if she's not in her room like let's abort the uh hug quest him like going to every room to find her is honestly a little creepy i personally think and also going and asking for hugs the night after you just fucked her over and she yelled at you for fucking her over and you don't say sorry or anything it's just like can i come for a hug no you can't fucking hug me stop searching for me all over the boat and wait for her to say yes okay it's fine And honestly, if you want to ask, if you say, can I give you a hug?

46:21Ben Mandelker: Fine. But if she doesn't respond, don't go chasing her down. Just wait. Be chill. It's too weird. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

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48:18So then he walks in and then Eddie sees this and goes, fuck off.

48:26Ben Mandelker: Now, the thing is this. If you meant fuck off towards Ben, fair. If he means it towards Jenna, that's not fair whatsoever. Like why why would you be mad at the at her when you're the one who mugged her off last night who blew up her spot last night who got mad at her last night? I mean if anything she was on her way back to you and because you couldn't handle it because you're so jealous and so insecure you had to show Ben that text message instead of being chill. And now whatever shot you may you may have had back with her is completely destroyed and now you're gonna curse her out for it. No, it doesn't work that way.

49:04Ben Mandelker: She's not with you. Yeah, because he's not getting what he wants. He thinks he deserves it. So he walks in and just tells them both to fuck off. That's how I took it. And, you know, stalks off. And Ben's like, oh, shit. She goes, it's not Eddie. All I saw was a fist with a bullet. That was Eddie, fortunately.

49:26Ben Mandelker: So now Eddie walks downstairs. He's like, well, that's a kick in the teeth. It was your own fault. you went looking for something that i think on some level he knew because why would he go into ben's room but quote unquote ben's room the guest room like on some level he was looking for that answer and then he gets it and then he's like well that's a kick in the teeth well don't go looking don't ask questions you don't want answers for don't go chasing waterfalls okay you'll drown unless you want to shower in one which would be recommended so now Eddie's on the deck talking to himself he's like you're a mug Eddie you're an absolute idiot well this is the first time I've agreed with Eddie this season so now we go back to Ben and Jenna and he's like alright well good chat I guess yeah fantastic alright take care then god I slipped up here god I slipped up it was bad it was bad I've not been this messy ever and I never want to be treated how I treated Eddie right now.

50:26So I have to put my hands up and I need to figure out.

50:29Ben Mandelker: So then Jenna's like mumbling around being like, I fucked up. So now Daisy and Joao are in bed and he's like, oh God, last night sucked. Not a fun night. Not one single redeemable moment. One of the worst nights of my entire life. I can't think of anything that I was happy about doing last night. Ha ha ha. Rude. Zim rude. So Alicia, Jenna, and Batool's cabin. Jenna's like, I fucked up. Alicia. She's like, what did you do? Last night, I fucking made it World War 3. It was World War 3 last night. Wait, have there been three World Wars until World War? How many? World War are we on right now? And then Ben and Jason are in the main salon.

51:10Ben Mandelker: So Jason's like, all good. And he's like, well, not really, no. Can we go outside for a chat? Something like that. I want to do some undermining this morning. All righty. So then Eddie's on the dock. He's walked off the boat, by the way, and he's just sitting somewhere, contemplating life, thinking about his choices, wondering what to do. My head's scrambled. What an idiot. Well, we can agree on that last point. Yes, exactly. So then we go back to Ben and Jason and Ben's like, well, you know, so Eddie, I was giving him some advice yesterday and I felt like Jenna was kind of playing both of us, but I may have kissed her this morning and I really don't know how to handle it.

51:50Like as a friend to Eddie, you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, it's like taking a toy away from the baby, but the baby, the toy you stole is also a baby. It's like you stole a baby doll away from another baby. Does that make any sense? It's like these things are hard and, you know, hard things are usually the best things to say. Take this, for example. Kumquat explosion. Say that five times and tell me that's not a great feeling.

52:21Ben Mandelker: Kumquat explosion. Kumquat explosion. Alright, it was easier for you. It was easier for you than it was for me. But for the first time I said, it was really hard. But once I did it a few times, I felt really good. Kumquat, Kumquat. Well, you know what? That's okay, Captain Kumquat Cheeks. Alright. Bean. I need a bean in the jar. Alright. Alright, I'll let you put a bean in the jar. But I do feel somehow better after this weird, awkward conversation that we've had. I think I know what I'm going to do, which is let you take away a stripe from the... Okay, Godspeed, Captain. So, Eddie... Meanwhile, Eddie, he returns to the deck.

53:03Ben Mandelker: And then he walks up there, and then he sees Ben. And he's like, oh! And he turns around. He's like, oh! Because he just can't look at Ben, how he's been betrayed by Ben. Yeah. He's like, oh, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie. Oh, you can get fucked! Okay, so let me get this straight. So you were going to go this morning and try and get with Jenna, but Ben beat you to it. So he's the asshole. Right. It would have been okay for you. So the last thing that Eddie heard was that Jenna and Ben were kissing and that also Jenna had broken up with Eddie, but Eddie was going to go try to get with Jenna. And that would have been okay because that would have been virtuous because he felt something for Jenna.

53:43Ben Mandelker: So therefore he's entitled for this. And so if that hurt Ben, oh, well, that's too bad because Eddie's feelings are pure. But now Ben does it before Eddie, and that's bad. That's the bad version. Well, but you know what? Now that we say it, I guess I have to be fair. Not that I really go by that usually, but just to be fair, I guess because Eddie was like, I don't want anything to do with Jenna from now on, you know. But didn't he or is that later when he says that? It's hard to know. I'm not going to do anything with Jenna. I don't want anything with Jenna. Yeah. Yeah. He tells me at some point.

54:19Ben Mandelker: He should be mad at Ben for that. He should be mad at Ben for that. But, but if you, I'm saying if you, this is what you were saying. And I agree with it, which is that if you really drill down, Eddie, Eddie going to get a hug from Jenna was ultimately to get back in Jenna's pants and ultimately to do the thing that Ben did also. So it's kind of the same thing, but, but it is shitty because Ben, Ben is the one who told him explicitly, don't go after her we're never talking to her again and then he made out with her so ben is definitely the the the worst violator but like but eddie's eddie's intentions are not as pure as he's making them out to be he's acting like the a lovelorn a prince a prince who's been robbed of his princess his bride the evil witch has come and taken it away the scarecrow has come along and it's like no you were being your intentions were just as shady as ben's except that ben would also has the extra patina of bro code violation by because he was the one who told you not to go after her and then yeah so ben turns back to jason he's like well i didn't go very well so eddie's like oh i can't go anywhere on this boat jason's like i'll chat with him as well if you don't mind this is really where i excel now actually doing something that matters and employee relations on this boat?

55:38Never. But, you know, if it's about girl problems, I'm in. Staddy Jason coming to the rescue.

55:46Ben Mandelker: So, now, we go to the main salon and Jenna and Eddie cross paths. And Jenna's like, and he's like, don't talk to me. Leave me alone, Jenna. I was like, I don't want to leave you alone. Well, I've asked you to go away. Please leave me alone. So now he walks off again. Oh, God, poor Eddie. He's like, I don't want to be here right now. My problem is that I sit there and I think I'm the recurring problem. You are. You are the recurring problem. You are. Pick up your mop. Yeah, for me to get back into the dating pool for the first time and have this happen so harshly to me just gives me a loss of faith.

56:22It's not fair. If this is the same thing that happened to you before, you are the problem, okay? You get attached to people and then assume that because they've shown any interest in you at all that they're going to be like the perfect little wife that you're going to take home to mom. And you start putting this whole personality on them and expecting all of this wifey shit from them. She did not give you that. No one agreed to that, Eddie.

56:46Ben Mandelker: She dumped you. Here's the other thing is that like, normally in these situations, like she's stringing him along. She did string him along a little bit in the sense that she sent a flirty text. And that was a huge error on her part. But quite frankly, she dumped you. There is no relationship here. And the flirty text is negated because you did the same thing to her with Alicia. So you know that you know the difference between a text that you really mean or versus the text that you send off because you just were horny in the moment. So it's all washed to me. The point is she told you explicitly.

57:22Ben Mandelker: She does not want to continue with you. And you're still acting like, oh, my God, this has happened to me again. And the dating I'm into the dating pool and this has happened to me. No, nothing happened. She dumped you and she moved on to someone else. That's it. you have to yeah and as far as the stuff as her flirting you know sending that text being like well you know i can't stop thinking of you and stuff i can see how that would give somebody the idea of like okay well maybe she does like me and that would give him hope and that would raise his spirits or whatever but then you saw what was happening last night she got pissed at you for showing the text you saw that she still has interest in ben and you're acting like you've been together for 10 years even if she did hurt you you guys have been together for five like you've been in each other's life for five minutes like you need you can't act like this this is psycho behavior that would be a good time to remind everyone that actually like the root of all this which is so it's so evil genius is ellie because it was ellie who started this Ben and Jenna everything was going swimmingly Ellie plants the seed with Ben that Jenna is making out with Joao because she's mad at Joao and Jenna and Joao were just having a conversation Ellie plants the seed Ben pulls back out of paranoia Jenna gets upset and then the way Jenna handles it is that she sends a flirty text to Eddie and then it all goes explodes from there but like ultimately if you really want to trace back this series of events.

58:52Ben Mandelker: It's kind of amazing. Emmy. Okay. Emmy on the way. It's like the best soap opera. I think she deserves an Emmy for this. I think she deserves to not even be made sous chef. She deserves to be made the chef. And I want her to cook herself an Emmy cake. I know. If you drill down the way... Right now, we are really on one because it's fun. But if you just take this show for what it is, which is like a silly soap. I mean, this is what I tuned in for revenge for. Ellie is basically Madeline Stowe right now. Madeline Stowe just inserted a little rumor, and now we're on episode four or five of that rumor, and it's just spiraling out of control.

59:34Ben Mandelker: A car's going to go off a cliff soon. Someone's going to get murdered. She would be the Emily Van Camp of that show, right? Well, Emily Van Camp was... Emily Van Camp, yes, would start rumors and hurt people, but I kind of feel like I feel like Ellie is Madeline's Doe to me. You know that Revenge is based on The Count of Monte Cristo, right? I do know that. Well, I had never read that. I never read it. They just came out with a miniseries. Well, not just kidding. I just watched it, so it was new to me. But it's new-ish on BBC, and I just watched it all because I loved Revenge so much. And it was decent.

1:00:13It was pretty good. But, man, Revenge was better. It just needs to be done with women. You know, watching the men be like, oh, you're taking my honor. It's like, who cares? Shut up. Stop your whining. But when it was Emily Van Kamp and Madeline Stowe, fuck yes, that's the way to do it right there.

1:00:30Ben Mandelker: Also, like, how many episodes can you watch of people counting sandwiches? It's like, okay, there's like 12 Monte Cristos there. Like, no big deal.

1:00:42So now Daisy is complimenting Barbie on the laundry. It's amazing. And didn't you have fun last night? Usually it's more fun, but Jenna massively fucked it up. But so did the boys. You know, what, are they fucking stupid? I mean, yeah, she put the two of them against each other. Well, fucking open your eyes, you dumb boys. I think it was really over the top from all parts of them.

1:01:03Ben Mandelker: Barbie's like, yeah, way too much. I'm just happy I can come on to the show at the end here and just stir the pot. Just in a little bit. Little way. The little way that I can. So now we see Jason. He goes up to Eddie. Eddie is sitting there sulking on the deck instead of working. Okay. Meanwhile, Batula is there meowing her way across the deck, cleaning everything, making it spick and span. And this guy, Eddie, is moping around. And he's going to get all the credit, you know, for being a great deckhand. And Jason's like, so you want to have a chat? Do you like the smell of sandalwood? And Eddie's like, Captain, I just don't know if I want to be here anymore.

1:01:35Ben Mandelker: He's like, really? Yeah. I've not felt like such an idiot before my life. I'm like, well, if it's any consolation, you probably have been such an idiot before. It's just not the first time you're feeling it. It hasn't been pointed out to you so clearly, maybe. Maybe that. I know. Yeah, I know it hurts. Sorry, go ahead, Ben. Here's where you're being an idiot. It's talking to the captain about this stupid situation. Okay, this is where you should feel like the biggest idiot. Well, I've just been royally mugged off, mate. I've messed up and I've had bad relationships, you know. Oh, I would love to be with someone.

1:02:09and I really would. But when you look for it, if it's hard, it's not right. And if it's not hard, you might need to take a pill. And if you take the pill, make sure you're ready for it to get hard and stay hard because it doesn't go down for six hours. And if you're wearing a kimono, that can be very uncomfortable. Do you understand what I'm saying?

1:02:31Ben Mandelker: I think so. Can I have a hug? I'm just really trying to get this hug out of my system. Just a warning. It is hard. And I did take a pill. All right, get over here. Get over here. So they hug and Eddie's like, you know, growing up without much of a father figure and Jason offering me support and guidance, telling me to get my head into work, which is a big ass because I got a very large head. That put an emotion into it. You know, it just was brilliant. And it's just what I needed to hear. So Batool comes out and Jason's like We're doing hugs today and he gives her a big hug And it's like meow So Ben and Joao are in the stairwell And Ben's like Hi I made out with Jenna this morning And then he saw some men together Oh god And Joao's like Okay come Let's talk about this okay So they walk in the main salon just as Jenna walks in Just No no no It's okay.

1:03:34Ben Mandelker: I'll come back. So, Juwile goes downstairs. And Jenna's like, Did you talk with Eddie, Ben? And he's like, No, I haven't. He is kind of giving me the cold shoulder. So, then... Messi asked Juwile goes right down to the mess with Daisy and Alicia. And he's like, What the fuck? I literally just spoke to Ben. And Ben said, I kissed Jenna this morning. And then Eddie walks in to find Jenna and Ben in the room.

1:03:59Daisy's like,

1:04:00Ben Mandelker: What? What? I was like, yes, he said I kissed Jenna this morning and I feel bad. That is a fucking messy move. When the second stew is causing trouble in every single department, that becomes my problem because the next charter is going to be a shit show if deck interior and the galley are all fighting. Well, A, it's a head of department right now causing problems because he's going around gossiping, first of all, and it's the other head of department that's making out with the girl in the bed. Why are you blaming Jenna? Yeah. And again, let's not act like heads of departments have not done this all the time to women.

1:04:37Ben Mandelker: The head of departments shouldn't be fucking their underlings either. If we want to get crazy with ER, like, why are you suddenly so defensive over this? But you're not like, hey, maybe this 43-year-old head of department shouldn't be banging my 22-year-old stew. Or maybe these guys should just learn to keep their personal life out of their business life. So if they are feeling a certain sort of way, they don't have to go crying to the captain about it. And now like Jenna's become like the problem, the problem child. She's messy as hell. And again, she, she should get like a certain talking to from her supervisors to be like, you're like what you're doing here.

1:05:15Ben Mandelker: Focus on your job because right now this is turning into a distraction. And I would, and on top of that, that should be said to all three of them. Be like, guys, keep it in your pants. None of you are allowed to hook up with the, no more hooking up for any of you guys. Focus on your work. Yeah, I think Daisy was like, listen, they're all letting their private lives get involved in their work life, and this is fucked up, and we need to have a meeting with all of them and say, this is fucked up. You guys are letting your personal lives mess up my boat. Okay, that's fine. But being like, Jonna, this is Jonna.

1:05:47No, Jonna was the one last night who went drunk who had a fit, but it's today the men who are walking around causing the trouble. Ben made out with her this morning and Eddie's over there crying and getting hugs from the chef and threatening to quit. So please. I can't. I was I was shocked on this one. Yeah, Daisy. I was really disappointed in this. I did not like this at all, especially when she's cuddling up to the biggest one of the biggest misogynists we've ever seen on this show, which is Joao. Like, come on, man.

1:06:15Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I did not like that. So Joao walks into the galley while Ben's there and Ben's like, you know how Eddie is emotional and all that. I feel like Jenna's tried to break it off with him many times. And Joelle's like, yes, but also not. Bear in mind. So Ben's like, really? Yeah, really, Joelle, coming from you, the one who could not break anything off with Ellie for, like, weeks? Yeah, yeah, exactly. So Ben's like, well, I was doing really well right up until she put those fucking pajamas on.

1:06:53I think that counts as a bean. That noise is a bean. Men really cannot help themselves, you guys. You wear sexy pajamas. Men can't help themselves. Those sexy pajamas, it's her fault.

1:07:08Ben Mandelker: Classic. So then Jenna tells Batool that she fucked up. So Batool tells us, Eddie, I'm sorry, but what I remember is that you did a really similar thing with Alicia. It's like, I'm glad someone mentioned it on the show because I know we were all watching this, and clocking that. Like you literally, you went and you, like you were going after Alicia. Alicia said, I've got a boyfriend. So you went after Jenna almost like as a revenge tactic. And then Alicia got messy. And then you said, like I would drop Jenna in a second to be with you. Sorry, you laid a bad foundation for this relationship. She was never going to take you seriously after that.

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