#3378 Southern Hospitality S4E12: So Dot Demoted

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1:46Ronnie Karam: Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast for older crap. We love to talk about on Ye Old Brubs, especially on Friday before a long weekend. Oh, God bless you, long weekend. I'm Ronnie, and that's Ben over there. Hello, Benoonies. Hi, how's it going? Good. Everybody, we're doing our cabaret, Forbidden Housewives, a musical about the real housewives, in New York City, June 3rd and June 5th. It's sold out, but you can get live streaming tickets, which you can watch up until a week after. but you can only buy it up until showtime. So get them now if you want to watch it. You can watch it for a full week.

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3:06Ronnie Karam: And in the meantime, welcome to your show, Ben. How do you feel today? I'm feeling lovely. It's a penultimate episode of Southern Hospitality. Did you mention that it's season four, episode 12, big gay explosion? And here we are at Republic Bar and Grill. And it's time for a pre-shift meeting. It's the white party tonight. White party tonight. We have this night. Okay, everyone, make it count. White party, white party, white party. Emmy's like, yes, yes. Finally. Finally, a party that I get. Yeah. Finally, someone's throwing me a party. at this restaurant

3:51Ronnie Karam: Emmy is out of town thankfully so we don't have to hear about that at least for a little while so the night begins everyone's working Joe's cornering Leva at the bar and he's like oh yeah I think we'll sell out by like 11th 11th this is my fifth white party and it's like my favorite one of the year you know so it's like it's amazing it's gonna be amazing which is you know why I'm proud to run your next restaurant so love it says we've been having this white party for literally over a decade it's an iconic event and everybody in charleston loves it they look forward to it it's sort of like the last technical time you can wear white that's acceptable at the end of the summer like we understand what white parties are just say you're having a white party we get it so dj's like i have no idea what the fuck a white party is i just know it's a day that i make a lot of money i was gonna say we don't all know but i guess i know i take it back immediately i forgot i forgot who's on the show so they're uh excited the white party it's exciting and so brad and michaels and laker at the front and um brad's like saying how you feeling about the party and michael's like i'm excited because michaels is going to be having a party for so dot gay everyone yeah which is which by the way it's so dot gay not to be confused with soda gay which is a gay who loves soda it's a secret lives of mormon wives gay yeah um and michael's is like yeah i got um i got my prints back from the shoot that i did for like soda gay and i'm super super excited brad's like are they so gay he's like they're so gay really really gay and um he says you know what better way to do it than to like make it a girls and gays party that the straights can come to.

5:40But this time instead of cucumbers we have photos. So girls and gays but also the straights. So it's just a party. It's a regular party. It's a party.

5:48Ronnie Karam: So I don't know that there are that many gays to come. Who are you going to invite? You, TJ and a couple guys from Southern Charm and like Cooper. Rodrigo. Rodrigo and Cooper. Yeah. And those guys whose faces have to be blurred out because you called them twos later in the episode. yeah exactly oh that was cold my god he's like oh yeah people on my instagram are all twos and then they show the people from the instagrams what are you doing that's so rude uh there was probably pas on the show that they just put up there you know whatever i was like how dare you put my picture up there i've never been in your dms leave me out of this so lake is like you should be so proud of this like yeah i'm just like anxious and like nervous because like my mom's coming to town so i think like a little bit of me is like having a lot of anxiety but i'm like trying not to let that cloud over my event and of course his mom as we all know is estelle getty because i still contend that michaels looks like b arthur i i can't help it i see b arthur in him

6:59Ronnie Karam: i've known your mom for about five seconds now on television and i have anxiety as well okay just recounting the fact that she's going to come on to this show so i get it and he's like yeah my relationship with my mom's like three steps forward and one step back and like whenever i tried to call her and i had my shoe like it just felt so defeating like so she's gonna show up at party that features photos of me half naked maybe that's not like the best thing for her to see and um yeah your mom does not want to be on camera she clearly does not want to be on camera she knows what's coming she knows what you're planning she knows that you've been doing it ever since she heard you talking shit about her she knows you're going to get her on tv and call her a homophobe and say you never supported her she doesn't want to do it michael she does not want to do it but damn it she's gonna do it yeah she's gonna do it she does it so lake gives michael's your guns lady should have stuck to your guns because whoa what a bad mistake this was lake uh she's like you know the person that you are you know the successes that you've achieved and those are the things that you should be proud of and just doing it lake i'm gonna need you to like speed up your compliment it's like taking a really long time sorry i just speak really slowly you're going really slow that's like so dot not gay dot

8:19brad is like well i can't wait to look at you half naked blown up in front of my face justin's like yeah you got a good mushroom tip in your pick bro and he's like um what is that lean it's like head of your penis bro um no i've got a hoodie so no mushroom downs

8:38Ronnie Karam: so now it's a new day maddie's wearing ankle weights she's on facetime with meredith because that's what you do you know you're on ankle weights you just put weights all over your limbs so you're like moving as slowly as you feel like meredith is talking you know hello meredith oh i'm so proud to be coming to charleston to be a part of a woman's event and supporting all the girls. It was so nice to connect with you online. I was like, yeah, we should go back to back. And then you commented yes. And I was like, oh my gosh. And it made me so happy. And I'm telling you, people are going to die in Charleston.

9:16Yes, and I'm definitely not making an appearance to promote my son's show, Next Gen New York City premiering very soon. I am here because I can think of nothing better than to spin some sick tunes at a regional bar in a small market city. I'm really excited.

9:35Ronnie Karam: yeah for this so dot magazine gay party whatever i decided like we're gonna have an all-woman dj set to show that we're coming for the men in this industry i was like well nothing's nothing are we gonna stay on theme with anything in this party i know this party is here to celebrate gay men but also that men shouldn't really be part of anything because it's about women but it's also It's about straight people who are coming in as allies. And it's also about mushroom tips and also for people who have hoodies. So it's everything. It's also for straight women in the DJ business. Like, yes, killing it.

10:12So just to recap, Michaels has a mother who is very uncomfortable being on TV. Maybe doesn't approve of his lifestyle and him being gay and is obviously a bit more conservative leaning. So he's going to bring her to this party that's both going to celebrate his gayness, perhaps show off his uncircumcised wiener, and also be, you know, like, women supporting women, anti-men. Like, his mom's brain is going to explode. Let's be like, 10 different liberal agendas happening at once.

10:49Ronnie Karam: Like, this woman looks very uncomfortable. Give her a book to burn. But on the other hand, And there is nothing gayer than having Meredith Marks at your event. So that is pretty cool. I would freak out. And Meredith, you know, whoever Meredith sees is so good. Because I got that it was Meredith later. But I was kind of, you know, like probably scrolling or something when this conversation started. And I looked up to see who it was. And I was like, who's this 20-year-old chick she found? Like, who's this 20-year-old DJ? I was waiting to hear her name. So I could be like, oh, I'm going to look her up and see who it is.

11:23Ronnie Karam: And who's Meredith? It's like, damn. where do i get that where do you get that just please give me a number in salt lake city maybe it's a beauty lab and laser i think she does hers in new york because she really lives in new york right so she probably gets maybe she goes to new york city maybe goes on to well either way i know marith is getting georgina the new uh yeah the dermatologist i just got it yeah the in the city chick. Yeah, the references are very fresh here. It's like, oh, you just arrived in our world. Guess what? Inside jokes begin now. Anyway, yeah. Supporting women, supporting LGBTQ, supporting turntables, supporting shoulder pads and blazers.

12:11I'm all for it. How can I say no?

12:14Ronnie Karam: Supporting crazy, supporting wretch, supporting Asians. How did that movie end, by the way? now excuse me i'm just gonna slide into this complimentary shrink jacket that delta airlines provided for me before i board um see you soon queen so they hang up and now it's time to catch up with tj and mia so she comes to visit him and they're laughing because she brought them burgers but hers has lettuce and she's like oh my god this looks like a little bit radioactive like yeah um Once I did a pageant, I had to make a couple of changes to my diet. And instead of a regular bun, now it's lettuce. Oh, my God.

12:56Ronnie Karam: Like, instead of happiness, it's sadness. Like, is it worth it? Yes. You know, I really enjoy TJ. I really enjoy Mia. But sometimes I feel like when they get together, I sometimes think that they think their banter is, like, the most fabulous thing happening on Bravo. And I'm like, it's fine. But sometimes I'm like, I need more. you mean more from a gay and his girl than just somebody with a picture of his best friend that he points down at his breakfast taco and says things in his friend's voice kind of i mean i think that's pathetic um kind of like how i have my little friend on my desk at all times he's always like ronnie did you really mean to say that in that tone i don't know whatever you do

13:47For those listening, Ronnie has a sticker of me. That's just smiling at him, but also passing judgment. It's saying Ronnie.

13:56Ronnie Karam: Maybe do you think we should edit out minute 47 and a half? It's up to you. It's up to you. Did I tell you about my new Bear for Contessa cookbook? That's who I saw on an elevator. Guess who I saw on an elevator. Oh, if it was I in a garden, I would die. I would die. So they're making a little best friend talk about last night. Guys, last night, Mia came to Republic with her not really an ex-boyfriend, Troy. I knew this was all bullshit when she said she broke up with Troy right after their romantic vacation to Hawaii or whatever. That did not sound right to me. And I think that she is doing a good old look.

14:37Ronnie Karam: I'm single, so I can still stay on Summer House. I think she's pulling a Ben, a Ben from Summer House. Yeah. You mean single and stay on Southern Hospitality. I'd love it if she was like, I'm single. I can join Summer House now. Well, I just meant that that's what they do on Summer House. Because if you're not sexually available for some Bravo man to torture emotionally, then you're not really worth anything on these shows. As was evidenced by Levi this season on Summer House. Yeah. So anyway, yeah. Troy's back and they had sex and it was fun, but he left. And, you know, she's like, whatever. He cheated on me.

15:14Nothing bad happened. She says, we had dinner last night. And I was like, what are we doing here? We can't date until we're in the same city. And like, am I having a fun time with him? Yes. Is he my favorite person to have sex with? Yes. And TJ is like, I mean, he's pretty perfect. I mean, minus the fact that he doesn't live here. That's funny, right? Because I know. I mean, he's giving me$8 ,000 though for your shift. and for all the stuff that was stolen. Remember?

15:39Ronnie Karam: For your shift? Yeah, he's going to reimburse her. Oh. It was shit. It was like, wow, I love that TJ was calling her a hooker. He's like, yeah, for your shit that was stolen? She's like, yeah. And she goes, yeah. And he told me he was looking at rings and literally, you're coughing and that's what I did. That was his reaction. Don't die me, please, TJ. Don't die. Don't die. But I might get a ring. He's like, so hot. If the guy won't even move to the town you're in, how's he going to buy you a ring? Or is he doing that to lure you to the town that he's in? Where does he live again? Maybe it's ring cams, that way you can keep an eye on people who are stealing moving trucks.

16:16I love you enough to make

16:18Ronnie Karam: sure your Uber Eats gets there safely. That is love, actually. That's the greatest sign of love. So DJ is like, are you excited for Michael's event? I was thinking of bringing a bucket of red paint to just, in case someone wears fur. I just feel like we're just lumping everything into it. So I thought it might be a fun moment to do that. And Mia's like, well, when I saw the flyer, I was like, so gay. And I was like, are we allowed to say that? But then I realized that was the name of the magazine. And they both laugh. She's like, I was like, I mean, where's HR? I mean, I'm excited. It's going to be fun.

16:51I mean, by the way, is Molly going to say something to Michaels about firing her? And of course, we get a flashback to Emmy revealing, well, maybe it's not Emmy. It's Molly saying that And Emmy told her that Michaels knew about the firing of Molly, the scandal that has touched America so deeply.

17:09Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So is anybody shocked that Molly is helping Emmy move the conversation off of what a problematic racist idiot Emmy is so that Molly can have a storyline about getting fired last year? I'm not surprised, but here we go. So TJ is like, well, I feel like he was really eager to patch up their issues in the beginning of the summer. She's like, yeah, and he should have come clean then Because this is ridiculous And TJ's like, yeah, I know Because they all know that Michaels, in fact, did have something to do With this firing And was just lying And she's like, yeah, I mean, he played a part in her firing And TJ says, yeah, I mean, obviously his hands are dirty Because he doesn't want anyone to know And he goes, the truth always comes out Why do people not understand that?

17:53Like, why do people not understand that? Well, I guess he shouldn't have told Emmy And she's like, yeah, yeah And Molly, he didn't give Molly any grace. I mean, they used to be like buddies. No, he needs to complain before she has to confront him about it. Yeah. Okay, you guys have worked yourself up into way too much of a tizzy about something that does not involve you whatsoever.

18:14Ronnie Karam: I know, over a firing, nobody cares about. Why was Molly fired from Republic? Too much personality, I think. They're like, Molly, we're calling you in here. They got sick of her accusing everybody of murder. Like Nanta Grace, get out. It's come to our attention. You're not familiar with Tommy Bahama. And if you don't know that brand, you just cannot work here. So I looked this up. It says owner Leva stated that Molly's full time job as an event planner required her to constantly switch and drop shifts at Republic, which ultimately led to her being let go. Molly claimed she was privy to personal information about assistant general Michaels and asserts he used bullshit reasons to get her fired.

18:56Ronnie Karam: and Michaels denied having the power to fire her, stating that Molly simply sucked at her jobs. This feels like the beginning of the people's court.

19:12There really should be a Bravo court, though, by the way. So Judge Judy, I don't know if she's retired or not. I know she had that massive deal where she moved her show off to IMDB or something. I think Bravo needs to just bring Judge Judy in and just have her preside over some feuds. You know, I know Andy does it at the reunions, but just some like one-off small feuds, like Michaels versus Molly, something low, low rent. Hey, hey, you, you over there. Okay, so you're working at Republic. Why don't you get a real job? Get a real job. A real job. I don't want you working at Republic anymore.

19:48Ronnie Karam: I don't know if you remember this, Ben, but about 10 years ago, I think it was that long ago, we went to New York to do a Crappin show. Or it was like, it wasn't 10 years, but it was a long time ago. We went to New York to do a Crappin show, and we had a meeting with Bravo. We had a meeting with Bravo's, I think they're, I forget who it was, but it was a few people from Bravo. Yeah, digital. And they were talking about show ideas and ways we could work together. And that was one of the things we pitched. It wasn't Judge Judy, but it was us acting as Doug Llewellyn from the People's Court as people came out.

20:22Ronnie Karam: Like we would do – you would see the show and then it would be like da-da-da-da, da-da-da. And then we would question people about the cases from the shows really quick, like a quick after show. We actually pitched that years ago, and I cannot believe they didn't make it. It's not the People's Court, the People's Crappens. Yeah, the Crappens Court. Well, Crappens Court. You know, just like, okay, you called her a slam pig. Do you really think that was necessary? You know, just quick, not like a full after show, just like a quick five-minute thing as a credits roll. Just let people, you know, just grill people on their way out.

20:56That's a credits roll. That's so funny. That's a funny idea. Just us popping up.

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23:15Well, now guess what? Michael's is at Bourbon and Bubbles because you're not allowed to go to any other restaurant in Charleston if it's not a Leva and Lamar property. Jesus.

23:26Ronnie Karam: Thank you for not being Zach Stacks because I could not take one more fucking minute in a Zach Stacks. Even Michael's new. He was like, okay, I'm going to put my mom on camera so that way the world can see how mean she is to me. Even I will show a little bit of grace to her by not putting her in Zach Stacks. My mom will gay bash a Zach Stacks. I do not want to see my mom take a baseball bat to those machines. You know, those multicolored. I feel like I'd get hypnotized by all those machines. All those machines swirling around, I'd be like, Zachary's, Zachary's is the best. Zachary's Zachary's is the best it's like a clockwork orange clockwork daiquiri so Elise comes in she shows up and she's smiling and bubbly I was like oh this lady's nice they made it seem like she'd be such a cold monster and then she sits down and immediately is like I refuse to smile for the rest of the scene yeah she's like at least you could have pulled up the chair and he's like oh sorry and they laugh and she's like this is a nice place um i guess he's like yeah so it's super awkward and you see i mean i see where this mother's coming from immediately she's like i said does not want to be on this show knows he's going to try and make a fool of her and she is determined to come into this show being like look at me a happy fun mom at bubbles and bourbon whatever the fuck it's called let's do this i'm nothing can take me off of my game what have you got let's do this son yeah but she falls off of her game like immediately quickly quickly very quickly she's like staring out the window and very serious it was so awkward and well we see where michael's gets it from because michael's is like that michael's personality is very like what it's like what i'm not gonna talk to you if i don't yeah i'm not gonna talk to you actually I'm sure he has not even connected those dots.

25:22And that would probably be devastating to him if he realized the way he treated Lake that one episode, the way he's been treating Emmy, which deservedly so, by the way. But the way he's treating Emily or anyone who crosses him is basically the way his mom is treating him in this scene.

25:37Ronnie Karam: Yeah, it is very devastating, actually. I mean, I think a lot of gay guys specifically go through that problem where they realize and it's like an avalanche when it happens to you. it just comes to you all at once um i believe i was in an heb and i was like checking out when it hit me i was looking at what i was buying and i was like i'm my mother that's what it is like that's why we don't get along like i'm her i'm like ronda without a wig i'm her i've become my mother and then once i once i learned that um i tried to run people down in a crosswalk tried to drive my car off a bridge, you know, stuff like that.

26:14Ronnie Karam: But then I accepted it and things are much better now. Things are much better. I realized I had turned into my mother when after we did the crappies, I then gave myself notes for 20 minutes. I was like, wait a second.

26:31Ronnie Karam: When you told yourself after the crappies, would it have killed you to get a haircut? You knew.

26:41I told myself, you know, you started 20 minutes late. That's 20 minutes that we're sitting there watching the feed and nothing's happening. I don't know why I said that to myself. Oh, I turned into my mom. So Elise is like, so why did you guys went to that church? And he's like, well, I haven't been to church in a really long time. It was nice. I just was surprised that you told me you were there. I mean, what else are you doing?

27:06Ronnie Karam: This was so fucking funny to me. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I have to break down every moment of this scene because it was so disturbing. But I was also laughing at so many parts. Because Michael's just had a whole trip about going home and how important it was to reconnect with his family feelings and all of this stuff. Then he goes to this church, and he has this big moment where he's crying in the church. And he's like, spiritually, this is so important to me. It's this whole event. And then he comes to sit down with his mom. And his mom goes, why'd you go to that church?

27:42why because like i haven't been to term i was surprised that you told me they were there i mean what else are you doing he's working focusing on nightlife working on hospitality that's it so he tells us that his mom does not like that she works that he works in in nightlife and she wants him to have a corporate job he's like but i've worked my way to the top and only thing i've ever wanted was for my mom to be proud of me. Have you worked your way to the top? You worked your way to assistant general manager of a club in Charleston.

28:14Ronnie Karam: It's pretty good for 22 though. It is pretty good, but he's acting like he made it. Like there's a...

28:25The journey continues.

28:28Ronnie Karam: There's higher highs. That's what you're saying. The mountain is higher. You're on a boulder, but that there's a whole mountain behind you. You know, like climb every mountain. Every mountain means every mountain, not just this mountain. Okay. Keep climbing. So he's like, I just want my mom to be proud of me. And he's like, well, do you feel like we're in a better place this year than we were last year? And she's like, we were never in a bad place. And he's like, well, I mean, I feel like there was a period of time where we were just like not talking a lot. She goes, yeah, I've been busy. which is so shit that's your son okay this is not like um hey um this is francis from uh bank of america just calling to see if you have considered opening up a savings account sorry i've been busy this is your son you can't say i've been busy to your son yikes and he goes well my birthday i had to call you and tell you it was my birthday and she goes oh you probably didn't answer you know how cell phones work right there's a record of calls ma 'am i just listen we need to start mom training from crappins before any mother goes on to these shows call us we get what your issues we're not going to immediately villainize you but we will tell you how to hold yourself i mean i cannot believe all the mothers that have come on this show and just completely blown it This is just another in a long line, you know?

29:57Yeah. It's kind of hilarious. So Mike was like, if you would have called me, I would have answered. But like, well, I feel like when I tried to FaceTime you, I had the photo shoot. I was like sitting there and I was like trying to have you. She's like, I was at the doctor. Yeah, but still like you hung up the phone on me. She's like, I was at the doctor. But you hung up the phone. I was in an MRI. What? I was under anesthesia. Wait, mom, how did you answer the phone under anesthesia? I don't know. the nurse gave it to me and I said I don't know that's what they told me I have no idea I was in

30:26Ronnie Karam: a coma how am I gonna how am I gonna do that you were on the phone you didn't tell me that until later she goes okay I'm sorry Michaels okay I'm sorry can I tell you something I feel like growing up you were like my best friend she's like yeah and like you would always ask me if I was like gay and I'd be like no no I'm not and then like you'd be like it's okay if you're gay and like I'll always love you if you're gay. She goes, because I knew it. Yeah, but then I came out. I just felt like we lost our relationship. She goes, well, you don't understand. Our relationship was built on me saying you're gay and you're saying, no, I'm not.

31:02So then once you come out, we don't have our joke anymore. So it just sort of sucks, but yeah.

31:09Ronnie Karam: Well, I mean, one thing I'll say for her, it was nice to hear, you always thought I was gay and you told me you would always love me anyway. I thought that was nice. But man, I'm just looking for things to give this lady because she's not doing very well. And so he starts crying because, of course, and he's like, well, I'm really ashamed of myself because I felt like the whole time you were trying to hide from people, hide who I am from people, and I felt alone. She goes, oh, my God, I used to call you and you wouldn't answer. Do you remember that? And he's like, well, I would answer, but I felt like I couldn't tell you things.

31:39Ronnie Karam: And she's like, oh, my God, you cry, baby. You need to grow up, Michaels. I mean, all the crying you do, just stop. Oh, my God. I was like, oh, gosh. What are you doing? Calling her son a crybaby on TV. For a moment there, I was like, okay, so maybe there is another side to this story. But she's like, crybaby, suck it up. So he's like, I feel like I've grown up and I'm like an emotional person. She goes, you don't stop. If you don't stop crying, I'm going to leave. Like, really? You're acting like you're not getting your way? Like, why are you crying? It's already in the past. I really can't figure out what's going on with these two.

32:14So it does seem like she is not emotionally accessible. but I also get the sense that she's it's weird. I'm having a mixed thing where I'm like, she's not as awful as he had made her out to be, but she's definitely not as warm as I think she is trying to say she is. And I can't figure it out, but Michaels is definitely not getting what he needs from her. Apparently.

32:38Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I mean, look, I think that any parent is going to watch a show that they've been talked about like that, you know, where your kids up there, like i didn't get what i needed for my parent they never supported me they probably had problems with me because i was gay or whatever and then your friends are like whoa you were a really shitty mom to your son what's up with that and then you're like well fuck my son for going on tv and saying all this shit i always told him when he was a little kid i would love him if he's gay you know she's probably thinking it from that perspective and thinking like how much you embarrassed me instead of thinking like wow my child really feels this way about me how do i fix this you know you're coming at it from the defensive place of like this is what this kid just did to me on national tv and humiliated me instead of like wow i really made my kid feel like this i need to see what i could do differently you know and she's like even if she has a point with the whole like you've talked shit about me and it really hurt my feelings she's not making it very well here oh my god what a disaster i felt so bad for michael's you know yeah i think ultimately still she is the parent and yeah it is up to her to make her child feels loved and so you know even if what he did was like she didn't like that and she was really upset about that like you're the adult still so she didn't like that she did not like all the things that that he had said, and she goes, you know, how do you think I feel?

34:06My friends, everybody watching the show, my son's talking bad about me, and I've always been there for you, except at the doctor's office, which I'm unfortunately at all the time, every time you call, but I don't know why you feel like that. And he's like, because those are my feelings. I mean, that's my troll. And she goes, but that's why I didn't want to come, because you lie. He's like, I didn't lie. She goes, you lie. And all the things you said, that's not true. So she's crying. He's like, they were true, mom. Those are my feelings. That was my troll. She goes, you heard my feelings, what you said in the show.

34:34It's like you're attacking me.

34:37Ronnie Karam: And he says, I'm sorry I didn't know how you were feeling, and I'm sorry I hurt your feelings with what I said and that you had to find out on TV that those were my feelings. And moving forward, I'll do a better job of telling you how I feel. And she's like, okay. And he says, so I don't hurt your feelings. And she's like, okay. And he said, will you do the same and communicate with me if I hurt your feelings? And she says, yeah. And she says, and I just want you to know I'm proud of you, and I don't care what you are. I love you. it's so interesting by the way that um this is the exact same conversation he's had to have with different people this season with lake etc and what last week there's a whole thing of like michaels you have to talk you have to talk um so michaels is like for my mom to tell me that she's proud of me it feels weird just because i've never heard her say it before and words of affirmation is just like not her thing and it's like not the way she was raised so i just need time to process but being able to have a conversation, open the door to have like more in the future.

35:31So it winds up ultimately being a positive exchange, which is good. Yeah. And then at the end, what was great is that he goes, he puts his hand across the table to be like, hold my hand. We're going to bond. She shakes it instead. He's like, what are you doing? We're shaking my hand. It's like, this is why you have to work in corporate America. We shake hands there.

35:53Ronnie Karam: Oh gosh. so now we go to joe who's writing in a notebook which what if everything that joe does crack me up just like a movie i was saying the same thing today there was like a shot there was like a there was a moment there was a scene there's a scene later on when maddie's with her mom and joe shows up well joe's here and they just got to him and he's just like in the truck he's like checking his phone and i'm just started laughing i just started i was like it's just joe on his phone like i don't know what he amuses me so deeply when he's writing through diary monday through wednesday local artists to drive bar sales nailed it yeah after my emo party event like i felt like i've kind of been reborn with like that joey bottles firing on my ass you know because like i did that shit i did that shit i had emo night and you know like that talk with leva i had it's like been haunting me and then we see clips of leva haunting him on the side and she's like you You were just slacking.

36:48Ronnie Karam: You're not reliable. You have been replaced. She said the R word. Like, what? Replaceable. Oh, that's a different R word than people usually. This show's in enough trouble right now without accusing Levo of saying the R word. I know. So now he calls his mom, Michelle. And you got to love Michelle. Now, Michelle, now here's how to do it. Michelle knows how to be a mom on TV. She's like, just let him say whatever he wants. Just nod and smile. What are you going to do? He's like, hey, mom, I just called you because I need some advice. And I need to write a business proposal for the Budaparts so that they're willing to, like, you know, like, maybe take that leap of faith and partner with me.

37:35Ronnie Karam: She's like, good, honey, you deserve it. Okay. Well, I need to have it, like, organized. Okay. Well, have you done a rough draft? well like I just wrote down like a really intricate paragraph of like I wanted into chat gpt intricate mary higgins clerk why are you writing paragraphs it was like an intricate portrait of my feelings and a lot of twists and turns and just when you think you understand what the paragraph's all about then all of a sudden he turns it all upside down it was crazy it was a scintillating scathing foray into the mind of a restaurateur restaurateur honey whatever i was like the brothers dustievsky um okay um i'm really impressed that you know who that is joe i really don't but they sound dusty so thanks chat gbt he kind of makes a real person with a fictional title but that's okay we're just happy that you got some of those references in there it's like oh yeah well i love the idea of the music venue but like i want it to be versatile like i would love to have like weddings there you know what i mean okay so like a venue yeah yeah but like also you can have like a dance there it's like a venue yeah but like what if you also have like aside from like weddings and like dances and performances you could like put chairs in there and have like a poetry slam so a venue yeah yeah it's not a cool idea you could do like dj stand-up comedy like you could roller skate or you could like putt golf or like what if you like want to loan a book out like there could be books there like a library or like i don't know like what what if someone needs to do their grocery shopping there should be like a paper towel aisle she's like um honey i don't think you can do everything at one time in one place yeah but like 7-Eleven does it like where are you gonna get your Snickers my place like what if you like take a hose and like pour water on the floor but then like freeze it and it could be like a rink but on the inside but like a venue but like also a wedding um how are you gonna keep it cold oh I'm gonna have to get back to you that'll be in the next intricate paragraph you know how like when you want to paint a wall but you're like what color should I paint it I want to paint it the color like that I see in this magazine you could like take that to the counter and then like they'll put it in a computer and then they'll make you paint that color honey they did that at home depot exactly exactly you get it you get it i have this vision that like if you don't like the floor we could like i don't know like maybe find someone who could like weave things together and they can take fabric and then you can like roll it out on the floor and it'd be this really cool thing that like makes the floor a little softer and nicer you mean a rug they have those yeah it's like everything that you know like uh everything that's going on in my head and it's like pulling it out is the hard part right because like it's all up there it's all it's right here it's right here joe joe are you pointing at your bump it again yes i am i am pointing at the bump but maybe maddie can make me a powerpoint you know other people are asking me to partner with them but like and they're like people that are like really successful in the industry but like my loyalty lies with the bonapartes okay well you know the boy famously there's one bonapart that eventually uh it all fell apart for him right i don't got the reference mom okay okay you have a lot of choices honey like so many people to collaborate with you you know they want to collaborate with you because you're a great guy you know and you just pulled this party out of your ass and it was like profitable you know so i don't know that's great you're doing great you're doing great over there as far as all of these other people i do not believe you for one second but that's cute i really appreciate your confidence he's like well i don't know it wasn't like profitable really because like i had to give half the tickets away for free but but still oh okay um so i hear denny's is hiring you know what i put like pretty much all my eggs in my career into the republic basket and i'm feeling this pressure to like get my shit together and Like, I don't want to be put in a position where I start a family and have nothing to provide them except, like, a really big omelet in a basket.

41:46Ronnie Karam: Okay. Well, I just want – I need to go back to work. But, you know, thanks for the pep talk. Really needed that. You think? Yeah. Well, didn't really – okay. Didn't do anything. Bye-bye. Love you. Love you. Honey, our son, we're going to have to pay his rent for a few more years. Oh, did I not hang up? I'm so sorry, Joey. Okay. Good luck. Good luck. so now it's time for the michaels cover release party of republic and we see posters everywhere and um he's you know he's his carrot i have to say like michaels really is as charismatic in um still pictures as he is in moving pictures we can take that in whatever direction you so good for him but looks very handsome and uh he's He's holding signs up in front of his privates and stuff that says reserved.

42:39Ronnie Karam: And so people start coming, and he's like, LOL, so gay. Wow, so gay, right, guys? Hey, straight person. Hey, straight person. Hey, other straight person. Good to see you. Thanks for coming out. This party couldn't be gayer. I mean, there's drag queens. Gay. Naked pictures of Michaels everywhere. Gay. Candy on the bar. Gay. I mean, sorry. There's really nothing more than gay. I just am There's glasses Soda and glasses Gay Light bulbs and fixtures Gay Lake Lake Gay Lake Gay Me Gay Gay So Brad's asking What? I did not know that was like I like that candy on the bar Is like gayer than Lake and DJ It's like Yeah I don't know that candy on the bar is gay Is it?

43:33Ronnie Karam: I feel like that's more basic. Yeah, I think that's like white girls getting married more than gay. So, no offense, and I don't want to tell any white girl to stop doing that because it's the best part of your weddings. So, thank you. Keep it up. So, TJ... The crochet thing that has seat tables stuck in it is not basic anymore. It's not the most fun part anymore. The crochet thing that has tables in it you know like that you know you know those like bit when at a wedding someone that has like some sort of like crochet netting like a crochet thing and they put the little things in there that say where you're sitting and you have to pluck it out oh anyway moving on moving on so dot gay oh so dot gay so brad's asking me if he feels nervous seeing naked pictures of himself he's like i'm like naked on my instagram all the time anyway what do i care and so is your mom coming and he's like no my mom and i have had progress but i don't know that she's ready for this big gay explosion baby steps baby steps meanwhile baby steps i mean she said fuck no you embarrassed me i'm never gonna do anything on tv again thanks a lot yeah i've already gotten hate twitters i've already gotten hate tweets and this hasn't even aired yet so thanks commercials here comes one right now

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45:59Maddie, meanwhile, is working with a young protege, DJ Annabella, which I just love these DJ names because like normally people have names like the famous ones like Tiesto, you know, but then Annabella, DJ Annabella. I don't know why that's so funny to me. DJ Kathy Tricoli. So Maddie is like DJ Jan Orton. DJ Fiesta Patina. DJ Susan. So I just feel like you should have like a crazier name. Like DJ Lasantrix or something. Lasantrix. DJ Lasagna.

46:51Ronnie Karam: Yeah. so maddie's like you're crushing it like that one needs to be louder but you're like crushing it right now i just told dj annabella how to use a fader so it's like women helping women so i see you hear the way that hip to be square just faded in yeah that was my hip that was my mentorship i'm sure so now charlie's there with justin emmy comes in um and she says hi to michaels and hugs and she's like i mean i can get past my issues with michael I mean, like, Michaels is, like, a good enough person. Like, I'm still, like, going to be a good enough person to, like, show up and support Michaels.

47:28Ronnie Karam: I mean, like, I want what's best for him, like, because that's what friends do. I mean, you're loyal. Like, I'm a very fucking loyal person. Like, how I went to Molly and just said that Michaels totally fired her. So, loyal. I'm a loyal bitch. I love Emmy saying that, like, she can get past issues. Like, I love, it's not your issue to get past. You are the aggressor here. You did the microaggression. I'm just, I can always get past it. Like you don't even understand what you're getting past. So Michael's is like, oh, well, I appreciate the support. I just don't really think that is genuine right now.

48:03And then he's like, oh my God, this picture, this one's giving like you just fuck someone and the food's arriving and you need to go grab it. Am I right? I could do gay banter, right? It's giving, you just got a tie for your husband at Brooks Brothers. oh it's it's giving um your man just put on green pants you're like try the pink pants on before we

48:25Ronnie Karam: go to polo am i right guys god i love this i love he just has no reaction he just stares at her with the deadpan face i'm just like yeah i mean it's awesome but yeah it's great it's great the pictures are really great so he's like um girl we're playing this game okay well i appreciate you coming thank you she's like uh okay well i'll just i'll just be over here if i need to call the police i will but i'll be over here okay

48:59so uh brad's asking me if uh she and troy are back together uh but she's like no we are just we're sexy exes we're just exploring and justin goes each other's bodies am i right high-fived mushroom head or hoodie what does he got and mia's like uh yeah i mean i wouldn't be mad if you did like you know i i was like look i told him hey i fucked somebody and i was like you can tell me and justin's like what you told him i was like yeah i fucked somebody and he goes well i didn't i just made out with a french girl in canada and sucked her tits and got a hand job mike's like okay quid back brett says yeah that's there's no way that that was just a hand job

49:38Ronnie Karam: okay there's something else going on in that story it's a little too specific to be true so molly comes up and she's like oh my god hearing that my emmy told michaels like hearing from emmy that michaels in fact was involved in my firing like i'm hurt but i can support a former friend even my worst enemies i'm like if i see you doing good like i'm not going to tell you congratulations but i will like applaud you from afar so mia's that sound molly And she's like, by the way, I was going to ask you, have you ever had a burger with a lettuce wrap? Disgusting. Are you going to say anything about Michael's firing you?

50:13And she goes, I am sick of it. I am honestly sick of it. I think we squashed it way too early. Yeah. And I think you need to have a conversation with him. I think you were owed an in-depth explanation. And I think, in my opinion, you need to have Emmy there. And furthermore, I think America really cares about this. So go do it.

50:30Ronnie Karam: She's like, oh, it's this event. It's not the time. She's like, no, no, not tonight. But like you should definitely like ask him, you know, with me there. So he can't give you the runaround. Lose traveler. Listen, if Molly was not showing up to work because she had too many other things and she's dropping a lot of shifts, that's a reason to get fired. It's so weird. It sucks that Michael's lied about it, but it's also sucky to be put in that position where you, you know, you're being blamed for somebody else's shitty job doing. I just I think it's funny because like Leva laid it out many weeks ago like yeah she just it was just too much she couldn't do both so we had to let her go and it's turning into this whole big thing but it's like yeah you were you were an event planner you had to you give up too many shifts like I don't see what the big controversy is here yeah it's just that he lied to her about it dun dun dun which he shouldn't have he should have just said you were missing a lot of shifts they were pissed about it and they said, well, she's missing a lot of shifts.

51:34Ronnie Karam: Is it time to let her go? And I said, you weren't going to miss less shifts. So yeah, it was time for you to go. Sorry, but it's business. Last season, he would have said that. I think this season, he's obviously not quite really as about his job. Last season, he was all about the fact that he was the manager and he was on top of things. And this season, it doesn't feel that way quite as much. So Michaels is like, by the way, everyone, I want to thank everyone, my friends who've come to my family within the past year and obviously the love thank you so much and um you know i've become like more comfortable my skin and i'm like i've always wanted to model and i'm just like grateful that it happens sooner and i'm just like i've got these great pics that i can put up on grinder and i just wouldn't want to be anywhere else with anybody else especially emmy okay thanks bye joe's like come on get emotional yo get emotional talk about it emo get emo i do that i do emo night Get emotional.

52:28Get emotional. So now they do the cover reveal.

52:32Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So, yeah, they do a cover reveal. And everyone's like, wow, he's so hot. Wow. And Lake's like, yeah, this is when I wish Michael was a biking like me because he's hot. And Molly's like, this is really going to inflate his ego balloon so much it's going to fly away. So no one's holding that string, bringing it back down to Earth. and that's why I'm here oh Molly Molly continually trying the hardest go after that story Molly so then Grace Lily shows up and she's like you know you can't hide yourself from the world when you're going through something but I'm feeling on the outside with this whole entire group right now and just so isolated and left out so that sucks so Bella emerges and she's like you guys see grace lily okay that was my line bye everyone and then maddie they're like yeah i saw her i mean i had a conversation with the other day it wasn't good like it was like basically just like i need proof that you're actually getting help because like we want to start rebuilding a friendship and like it took me like two and a half years to get clean so it's hard for me to believe that she's clean now isn't it interesting how different this storyline is different or how different this storyline is from like summer house how on that show it's like oh my god someone even questioned sobriety oh that's like villain is that and this one they're like no i do not believe you i absolutely do not believe you and will not believe you and everyone's like you go girl yeah she's like i'm not gonna waste time trying to pour into this vessel that i like i just i don't have proof yet but that being said i do kind of feel like maddie should be maybe as an outsider looking in it feels weird that maddie's not trying not being supportive of her friend who's trying to be sober right now and i get it maddie said that like grace has done this a million times where she spends like, oh, she took a month off and then she falls back into it.

54:27And like it's like hard for Maddie to always be there. But I do, I like feel bad for Grace. Maybe I'm being manipulated but she comes in, she looks really sad. She does look really alone. She's way more low-key than we've ever seen her before. She's not being all like, love and love, wavy gravy. She's like, hi everyone. Nice to see you.

54:44Ronnie Karam: Well, she knows she's truly fucked now because no one will shoot with her. She's not being invited anywhere. She knows that she's officially fucked up to the point where she's done now, you know? which is often when people will come in and be like, but I'm trying, you know, and I really like grace too. And I have a lot of empathy. And actually just before we move on, cause I brought up the summer house thing, just thinking, God, it's cause I did think that while watching this. Now that was different. Cause Carl had had more time under his belt. And that was a relate. I mean, I can see that there were clear differences in that one.

55:13Ronnie Karam: It's just, I don't know why it struck me with this. People are just not like giving her an inch grace silly, but i think there is something when you you know have been an addict or you are an addict or you have been through things with addicts that there there comes a point where it's just like enough like you need to like i need a solid i need to protect my record piece before i've jumped back into this yeah like i need to protect myself but it doesn't make me feel less bad for grace because that's a shitty position to be in and um so she's like you know uh it's been a month since i've touched ketamine so i'm just finally like proud of myself you know that i can admit it and maddie's saying well i don't think she's ready to be brutally honest and get the help she needs and grace is saying well the first step is admitting you have a problem you know it's a journey it's like a journey that's a journey it's what you do you know that you go in life and you Just go places.

56:14Ronnie Karam: You know what I mean? Journey. Journey. Last time I saw Maddie, I felt like she wasn't that supportive of me. And that hurt me. And I don't know. I can feel that tension between her and I. We have a special friendship. And I just don't want to lose it. So she starts to get emotional. And Brad actually comforts her because he sees that she's sad. And he's like, look, you know, we've always got your back. Don't you worry. we've got you anyway run along we'll see you in three months you know he does hug her he hugs her but he's like yeah we're here for you we hope you're okay it's like yeah it's a law you know it's like losing the friend group that's like a law we have so many memories you know think of all the memories of me he's probably like yeah they're all disasters of a lot of whenever I think of you and you pop up in my memory their chaotic disasters and so he's just like for sure though and she's like i don't want to lose this and i'm emotional i feel like i lost his family a little bit love you guys and he's like love you too and she's like i want to leave this together because life's a journey you know it's a journey yeah he's like yep okay well good luck so um then grace leaves she basically goes up to michaels and is like congratulations but i feel awkward here so i'm gonna go he's like okay i don't even really know who you are yeah come on gracefully get it together take care of yourself over there i love you i need you on my tv girl i know and the the headlines since this share the show filmed not been great for her so god i really do hope she gets it together it's really scary so then uh in happier news who's ready for meredith mark yes queen I got now hello who is ready to engage with me oh gosh where's my nasty girl here's a new song it's called walk like an Egyptian by a group I like to call the bangles everyone they're like huh Matty's like this is a massive accomplishment.

58:33Ronnie Karam: Like getting a Bravo DJ to show up on a Bravo show to DJ is crazy. Nuts. I brought in the iconic Meredith Marks, basically. Well, who wants some caviar while I play La Bamba? La la la La Bamba. Enjoy. Good. So, meanwhile, it's a new day. Well, now the party's over. And it was fun. It was a huge success. It was a roaring success. And now it's a new day, and it's time to catch up with Lake, who calls her dad Aaron. Hey, if anybody is feeling left out, if the dads are feeling left out in the terrible parenting category, don't worry. Okay? It's not just moms who are getting it today. Welcome Lake's dad to the stage, ladies and gentlemen.

59:22Aaron! Lake has had a bit of a up-and-down relationship with her dad because he has not really accepted her sexuality. so while she has this conversation with him she spends the entire time drawing something that could be an eyeball but for a while just sort of looks like a vagina did you notice that? I was like, is she drawing a vagina while she's talking to her dad

59:45Ronnie Karam: I wonder if this is one of those psychological art things because I saw an eyeball and you saw a vagina well to be fair I have no idea what a vagina looks like really? no, I'm just joking of course I know what they look like well you never know So there is there are some sheltered gays. So not gay. So she calls up and Aaron is like, hey, I'm over at Uncle Carl's house and your brother just let all the chickens out of the coop. Oh, my gosh. And we got to put the chickens back in the coop. You sound crazy. Yes, I'll tell any anecdote to avoid talking about your lesbianism. I'm in your face. So she says that they're finally getting back to the place where they can make jokes together again and their relationships improving as long as they don't talk about past hurt.

1:00:30Ronnie Karam: or who she's having sex with. And so he's like, how are you doing? And she's like, you know, I'm doing this art show and I would love it if you could come support me. And he's like, what? And she's like, yeah, Leva asked me to showcase work that highlights women in Charleston. And he's like, well, how about African-Americans? Can they highlight African-Americans? And she's like, well, I am African-American and it's a highlight of me. So it's highlighting you. yeah it'd be great if you could come um i would love to but uncle carl um can he go instead uh because uh i don't know if you know about this but uh i have to buy a uh a hinge for the chicken coop so the door opens smoothly so what the fuck is wrong with this guy he doesn't even wait to know when the day is so he can say he can't come he's just like oh yeah art show celebrating you yeah i'm gonna send uncle carl instead okay she says no i want you to come and he's like well lake I have several businesses I have to cover.

1:01:32Ronnie Karam: Dude, you're chasing chickens around the uncle's backyard right now. I think you can spare the time. Oh, yeah. I got a lot of businesses. It's like, well, it's next Monday. Next Monday, I mean, I have a four-year-old son, and you have a 23-year-old daughter? Yes, but I also have many chickens that are running around. I don't know if you've ever seen a chicken running around, but it's a whole movie about it. whole move that chicken's running and uh that's a real asshole i don't know if i can make it this guy's a real asshole i didn't like this at all so she's like you know um i have to keep my intimate life from my father and so this is another intimate part of my life because it's like what i dream and that would be nice if he could support that at least and so she's like i really want you to come and he's like well i mean i'll try but i can't promise you okay and but you No, if I'm not there physically, I'm there in spirit.

1:02:29Ronnie Karam: Oh, fuck your spirit. I want your fucking spirit. Spirit out of here. Okay. I'm there in spirit. The chickens get the physical you and your daughter gets the chicken you. Yeah. The spirit you. Sorry. The chicken you. I'm sending a chicken. Well, if I catch one of these chickens, is it okay if I send it down to Charleston to go to the show and it could just represent me? So now we have Maddie going to her mom, Mary Ellen's house. We love Mary Ellen. and Mary Ellen is like, so tell me how was Punta Cana? Tell me everything. Tell me everything. She was like, it was fun. You must've been exhausted.

1:03:02Aren't you exhausted? You look exhausted. Is that a microaggression towards you? Do you look tired? Oh my God. I guess that's just a regular aggression. Microaggression is something totally different. Whoops. So Maddie's like, I am exhausted and I'm working at Republic all weekend. And I had the white party and then Martin Marks event the next day and it was so much fun. Mother, why are you clutching my arm so tightly? I'm just excited to see you. Okay. Okay. Sit down here. Quinny's here.

1:03:25Ronnie Karam: You know, Meredith Marks, that is the best news I've heard in years. It's like the most important thing you've ever done. Okay? Tell me more. Is she related to Groucho? Different Marks, mother. Okay, well, I got some snacks going. Snacks. Who wants excited for snacks? You like Ritz? I got you Ritz. I know you like Ritz. You like Ritz, right? You always like Ritz. You not like Ritz anymore. Mother, stop it. You're spiraling. You're on TV and you're spiraling. Sorry. How's Joe? So they talk about Joe's bad back, and then it moves on to, have you gotten your test results back? Yes or no? She's like, oh, I don't know, Mom.

1:03:58Ronnie Karam: And so Maddie's saying that the mom really wants her to freeze her eggs, and she went to take blood tests to see if she's even eligible to freeze her eggs, but she won't look at them. And she's like, you seriously have not even checked into this, honey? She's like, I don't want to know, Mom. and she says she's at an infertility risk because she has autoimmune disease, but her family has also struggled with fertility. And so she's scared because she can't take another negative health health results. And she's like, OK, but you're 28. And when I was 35, my eggs weren't even viable. So that was hard to hear.

1:04:31Ronnie Karam: OK, it was hard to hear at 30, 35. And it's going to be it's easier to hear when you're 28. OK, just go get it done. And she's like, but I know I'm going to just freeze my eggs, period. That's what I'm going to do. I don't even care what the test says. And she's like, that's not how that works. She goes, did you, did you look at the results? Maddie, you gotta, you gotta look at the results. You gotta look at, I just, I don't want to know. I just like, just like, just freeze my eggs. If they can do it, then they'll obviously know. But like, I feel like I have so much trauma and like being sick in my early years of my life.

1:05:02I just don't want to deal with doctors and like hearing me in a struggle with that. She goes, okay, but if you don't know, you can't do anything about it. Okay. It's really important to get the results. Okay. how am I supposed to know when to get new Coca-Cola's for this household if I don't know they're out? Okay, you got to tell people things. Knowledge is power.

1:05:17Ronnie Karam: I'm like, but I don't want to hear it, Mom. And she's like, okay, well, but the doctors don't just freeze your eggs. That's not how it works. Like, they test you first. They do all this stuff. They don't just say, okay, it's not like putting your cup up against the ice maker and stuff pops out of there and you freeze it. It's not how it works, honey. And she's like, Mom, why are you so obsessed with soda today? Because there was a soda gahy party. I went to it. Did you not go to that one? No. as a different party mom well i'll tell you what there's nothing better than gay soda i mean

1:05:49so maddie's like i just i hate doctors and mary being the sensitive mom goes look you have a whole thing with doctors you have to get over that she's just like i don't care if it puts you off there's no moving back so get over it so maddie's crying she's like i don't know if i could take it so i mean obviously maddie has terrible like terrible associations with doctors and her mom is like i don't give a fuck get in there and look at those results so maddie is saying that she was when she was younger she was misdiagnosed a lot and so she just she just really just not like doctors at all and between her mom and joe and doctors it just it's like a lot all at once

1:06:28Ronnie Karam: yeah and the mom's like honey knowledge is power which is why joe is basically like a dead boom box. Okay. You are in the driver's seat here. Now, whatever you find out, we'll get through it. Okay. Just get over there. I'm going to be a grandparent. Okay. Come hell or high water. So you need to figure this shit out. About to say, that's why so many people on this cast seem so powerless at all times. Knowledge is power. Knowledge is power. Do, do, do. And speaking of which, honk, honk. Oh, Joe's here already. Wait, you're leaving? You're good? Are you leaving? She's like, bye. So then Joe's like, hey, let's boogie.

1:07:06I'm in a lot of pain. By the way, Joe's back issues are like a, they've been sort of like lingering over the past few episodes. Should we be concerned about this?

1:07:18Ronnie Karam: Yeah, back issues like that don't just go away. It sounds like those can get really bad and serious too. And so she's like, well, maybe you should go to the doctor. And he goes, yeah, well, I don't have time for that. It's like, well, this couple, you guys should not be talking about kids when you can't even take care of yourselves. like if you guys refuse to even take the steps to take care of yourselves you're not ready you know well it's also the the funny part about this is maddie being like maddie's mom saying you need to go look at the results no i hate doctors doctors are the worst i hate doctors god they're doctors i'll never talk to a doctor again joe go to the doctor yeah yeah so she's crying to joe about the conversation with her mom and she's like you know what joe like i'm a kid you know joe like i feel like why do i have to figure out like marriage and kids all in like one summer like I'm 28.

1:08:03Ronnie Karam: I'm a baby. Yeah. But I think you're putting like some of that pressure on yourself though. Cause like, I think because these are like things that you want and like, no, I don't know why you have all that pressure, by the way, can I remind you that I can't wait to start a family with you? I can't wait to start a family. Let's start a family. I want to have babies with you. Anyway, why do you feel all this pressure? She goes, yeah, but my mom's like knowledge is power. And I'm like, no, it's fucking not like it's a curse. Cause like half the smartest people in the world. I mean, like, look at even Fantastic Four, like Dr.

1:08:34Ronnie Karam: Reed. It's like, this is a curse. Knowledge really is a curse. If anyone could be more cursed with knowledge, it's Maddie Reese in this moment. I died. Knowledge is a curse. Look at some of the smartest people in the world, like the Fantastic Four.

1:08:56Oh, Maddie. Maddie, way down with a ball in chain with all that deep, deep knowledge coursing through the veins.

1:09:05Ronnie Karam: Haven't you ever noticed that like the saddest people are wearing glasses?

1:09:12They know so much. God, you ever see Pinky and the Brain? How upset is the brain at all times? So the producer's like, have you considered freezing an embryo? She goes, what? You can freeze like an embryo? Joe's like, I mean, there's been food that that frozen it like didn't come out and i feel like it expired in the freezer so i don't know

1:09:33Ronnie Karam: how this works it's not the same as a grilled cheese joe that's the same joe she goes wait people do that like they freeze like a baby like so wait you can just freeze a baby like it's like those movies where there's like there's like a baby like floating in like scientific liquid like no the embryo is just like a few little cells i just so wait it's not a baby what is it then oh my god i'm cursed i just got knowledge like it's an embryo you know like when sperm she's oh wait so you need sperm like yes but wait what if joe and i don't get what if we don't get married we don't work out then i'm wasting my eggs on like some other guy's sperm right wait a second what if i want my embryo to have straight hair no it's not that it needs a perm It needs sperm.

1:10:19Oh. Okay, that makes more sense.

1:10:27Ronnie Karam: What's an embryo?

1:10:33But if I have, if my blood diet is B positive, is it an embryo? B or embryo? Ma 'am, we're going to need you to step away from baby talk.

1:10:48Ronnie Karam: Ma 'am, we're going to need to get your embryos now because you're a type A. Oh, my God. My blood's smart. No. No wonder I'm so sad.

1:11:00Wait a second. Why do we care so much about Emmy eating brioche? No, embryo, not Emmy's brioche. Oh,

1:11:09Ronnie Karam: yikes. So now it's Brent Shift at Republic. And Emily is Emily. Emmy is watching Lake struggle to cut limes. like it's like what the hell she goes baby girl grip it no like really like lift it up like up in the air like off the thing right here and now smash it smash it in there oh my god this lime is probably terrified and um uh lake can't do it and emmy is like losing her mind she's like lake fantastic hostess but she can't cut limes to save her fucking life i'm like i'm gonna cut the lines. So now we're at Lamar's Sports Club and TJ brings over a tower of wieners to the table and Molly and Taylor join them.

1:11:53Taylor of Taylor and Shep, by the way, and Justin, Brad and Joe. And Justin's like, hey, is everyone ready to watch some football? I can't wait to see the mushroom heads on some of those Patriots players. Am I right, TJ? What? Huh? What's happening? I don't know what this means. He's like, sports. Oh my God. Look, I don't know anything about football as long as people are buying wieners and wiener towers i'm happy and also if i have a

1:12:14Ronnie Karam: joe joe you should tell everyone in my exciting news and taylor's like oh guys tj's straight and they'll laugh i'm always like okay what's the announcement so joe says everyone knows that tj's type is a closeted straight man but like what's the next best thing uh someone that just came out of the closet okay but like there's this really good looking charismatic awesome dude and we're like buddies in college and he came out of the closet and tj's like low-key had a crush on him So I sent him a paragraph and I'm like, Hey, this is like a Hail Mary, you know, Ryan Gosling was straight to one time.

1:12:45Ronnie Karam: So then he just responded with I'm down when I don't, what's a Hail Mary. Sorry. It's a sports thing. So they're all so excited. And his name is Matt Rossi. And then TJ is like, Oh my God, he, he has a wiener dog named Kirkland after him. So we see a picture of Matt and he is really hot. and this is where Taylor is like, I'm sorry, TJ is like, yeah, I don't think the Charleston gay scene is completely dry. It's just, however, my DMs are just like straight up twos. I see all these guys. It's like Ryan 54. I love corned beef and running in the rain. Keith 28. I like to tinker on my PS express and sing opera.

1:13:26Wow. That is, that is bad. It's like you're not even spring for the full Photoshop. Not even the, not even the full Adobe suite PS express.

1:13:37Dave, show tunes are my fave. I love puppies and flowers. Well, that's not so bad. Oh, God. And TJ got it.

1:13:44Ronnie Karam: And these twos just talk to themselves every day. So thank you, Joe Bradley. I mean, at least they're not just being ignored by straight guys that they're DMing all day. I don't know. Leave the twos alone. They sound like they have quite lovely lives. Okay? I don't know about the corned beef and running in the rain. That's a little weird. you're like how about yours which is like i sell hot dogs at sports bars so then uh lake goes up to michael's like what's new and he's like and emmy is like the way that michael spoke to me in butta cana was not okay and it really hurt my feelings and i've watched a lot of friendships dissipate because there was like a lack of respect i'm just like i'm like really hurt really friendships dissipating because of a lack of respect emmy wow when is that crazy maybe we We have some examples of that happening earlier this season, too.

1:14:34So funny that you say that.

1:14:36Ronnie Karam: In every single episode this year, which is crazy. So back at the sports club, Molly's like, oh, my God, obviously, and we said Michaels aren't good right now. So in Putakana, I called her aside to just be like, are you OK? And then she told me that my feelings towards Michaels are valid because I was here when he pulled the strings to fire me. And Brad's like, no, this is really hard for me to wrap my mind around. but if anyone here would know if michaels knew about the firing of molly it would be emmy and now you're now we're gonna believe anything that emmy says brad from you of all people i know brad's like all summer you know i've heard this from him he's like i didn't have a problem with molly molly had a problem with me well it sounds like you did have a problem with molly just oh yeah he had a problem with me all right he had a problem with me what do you mean what joe's like well he will go off thoughts will happen and molly's like yeah he will step on your neck if it means he gets a little higher and at this point i know he did it i can't move forward in our friendship you don't take accountability wait wait a second michael's got molly fires that way he could climb up higher in the corporate ranks of republic from assistant general manager to still assistant general manager okay got it yeah and what was she didn't have a higher position than him so how was it stepping over her to get higher.

1:15:58Ronnie Karam: He was already above you. This is stupid. Yeah. This is genuinely very stupid. Yeah. I think they're just like, guys, it's the end of the season, and we've got nothing. All right. Come on. Let's go. Michaels has become a completely different human being to the one I became friends with, and with people that change in a negative way like that, karma will always come back to bite you in the ass, and karma's only a bitch if you are. You are. You are. And then all of a sudden, the feather flies through the air and a magical lightning claps and the karma, the goddess of karma, comes down and inhabits Michael's laptop.

1:16:38Karma

1:16:38Ronnie Karam: is when you consistently don't show up for work or drop your shifts and then you're fired. You've already learned that lesson. I don't know. I don't get this. Michael gets an email and he's like, wait, are you fucking kidding me? That's so frustrating. He calls Maddie and he's like, I literally just got an email that says, I formally notify you of a change in your current position. We'll be transitioning you out of assistant general manager role. Like what the fuck did I, what the fuck? And then he's like, oh, and I'm asking, they emailed you this today. He's like, that's rude as fuck. You know what?

1:17:16Like, you know what? That's, you never should read your emails because knowledge is power. You know, Dr. Reed from the fantastic four, he reads every single email he gets and he's burdened with it. I'm sorry. that you i had you had to learn this way but knowledge is not power it's a curse michaels

1:17:32Ronnie Karam: yeah this is crazy anything i don't understand i've given everything to this company like it kind of puts a bit in my stomach like oh i mean you can't be an agf forever and then we he goes to the bathroom and cries and stuff this is nuts i wonder why they did that and especially right after he had a big party celebrate like bringing in republic a shit ton of money for that so dot gay thing and brought in all that publicity. I wonder what's up. Maybe it's just nothing to do with him. It's just like a restructuring. They're like, we don't need an assistant general manager and we've moved your role over to this instead or whatever.

1:18:04Like it's probably something actually totally benign because I don't think we've seen anything where Michael has exhibited a dereliction of duty as assistant general manager.

1:18:17Ronnie Karam: Well, it says we'll be transitioning out of that role, but it may be, is it a raise? Probably not. Right. They wouldn't tell you got a raise. No, I like that on email. That's nuts. I would like to know. I would like to know. We'll find that next week. I hope I guess we'll find out. Well, we knowledge is power. So we will tell you forward to look to, to finding out. I'll tell you what time's going to do. It's going to tell you, it's going to tell you. Okay. Just listen for it. Listen for time. All right, everybody. Thanks so much for being here. have a great holiday weekend we'll be back on Tuesday in the meantime if you want live streaming tickets for our cabaret June 3rd and 5th those are available at watchwhatcrappens.com we'll talk to you next time bye watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors she answered the call it's Adia Paul ain't no thing like Alison King our way is the amber way it's the foster and the furious it's Amanda Foster it's always automatic with Ashley Otto Put your hands together for Carly Clapp.

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