#3379 Below Deck Down Under S04E17 Part One: So Sous Me

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1:54Ben Mandelker: Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens?

2:24Ronnie Karam: stomach hurts but guess what that doesn't matter because today is below dick down under day very excited season's almost over but we're more excited because we are going to new york in a couple of days to do our cabaret we're so excited it's our musical debut in new york city we will be there june 3rd and june 5th for forbidden housewives at green room 42 those shows are sold out there will be three shows um they're sold out but there are live streaming tickets You can buy the live stream tickets. There's going to be a big chat room in there. It's going to be a big party. It should be fun. You can buy those up to the show date, up to the show time.

3:02Ronnie Karam: After that, they won't be sold anymore. So you can't buy them after that, but you can stream them for up to a week after. So do it. You should do it. It's going to be great. You can get links to that at watchwhatcrappens.com or on our Instagram in the link in BO. Okay. That's Spanish for pile. Everybody, welcome to Below Deck Down Under Season 4, Episode 7, When Egos Collide.

3:29Ben Mandelker: Oh my god, this episode. This season, this season is tremendous. Like, what do we do to deserve this season? I mean, Below Deck Down Under has, I would have to say, an unblemished track record. Every season that they've had, I think this is their fourth season, everyone has been excellent. I don't know what the special sauce is if it's the showrunners behind the scenes whatever's happening whatever's going on with the casting it is so good I'm like every season I'm always like this is the best season of Below Deck down under yet because last season last season was maybe their weakest that it was still so good that was that whole thing with there was like well I can't remember anyone's names of course but like Zarina versus Laura and then there was that short bosun guy um i was like oh i was drawn into that and then the one before that there was it was there was lots of there was some very serious stuff in the second season but it was also very compelling tv and then the first season was also good this is definitely the best i think this one this i think this is the best because it's like hitting on all fronts on some in so many ways like it's not a one-dimensional season like there's so many things happening and the things that are happening are also intertwined and connected to each other in a way that I find to be very, very compelling.

4:55Ronnie Karam: Yes, I agree with you. I'm loving this season. It's fantastic. And it's pissing me off, which I think is good. There's so many people. The captain's pissing me off. Usually the captains don't piss me off. I mean, Sandy had a couple of seasons there. Geez. Sandy definitely gave me a couple of pissed off seasons. But for the most, She doesn't really anymore. I mean, I don't really find the captains generally that offensive, but Jason has really been pissing me off. And it feels great. I love it. I love the anger. It's coursing through me. But in kind of a non-offensive way, like it's nothing you really carry.

5:28Ronnie Karam: That's the kind of anger I like when you can get really upset about something and then go on with your life. You know, it's not like bothering me during the day. So, you know, thank you for being non-offensively offensive, Jason. Thank you.

5:39Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I feel like last week was the week where I was really angry at Jason because I thought the Jenna demotion was totally ridiculous. Oh, oh, oh. And by the way, so this guy, Eddie, this schmuck, Eddie. So I was like, I want to learn more about Eddie, whatever his last name is. Mr. Mustachioed, inflatable baseball bat. So I was like, let me look. Let me see what this guy is all about. So I went to his Instagram and he has so many problematic things going on on his Instagram. If you look at his grid, it all just seems like whatever. It's me yachting. But if you look at his shares or his reposts, it's all like, it's like full on problematic bullshit.

6:25Ben Mandelker: Is it like Andrew Tate shit?

6:27Ronnie Karam: Like Manosphere stuff?

6:29Ben Mandelker: Manosphere stuff. Oh my God. Charlie Kirk stuff. but he had a video that was like it was like a scene from Pocahontas I only watched it with audio off and it was like from the cartoon Pocahontas and this is named John Smith whatever the blonde guy is is talking to Pocahontas this is like talking about basically how colonialism has helped the lives of quote unquote savages I don't know if that's real dialogue from the movie or not I've never seen Pocahontas but then the video was showing all the glories of like the the the british empire and how it has spread far and wide and how like all these cultures have like benefited from it etc etc and like it's just one of these things like uh it just felt so retrograde i was like are we in 1905 what is happening here and he just had so many videos that were like that that you know uh he had some he had some other ones that i just didn't I didn't commit them to my brain and I'm just I'm still like I'm still uh on like I'm still winding up I'm still like sort of waking up in a sense from a long weekend but I just remember it was like one video after another of like and I was like oh this guy like you called it Ronnie you kept on calling him an incel and I was like ha ha ha he is totally an incel but then I watched

7:48Ronnie Karam: that it's like oh he is he is he gives he gives he gives big incel vibes big yeah and he also I I don't ever trust people who purposely look like an extra in a period like Western or what's that thing I just watched at Death by Lightning show or, you know, like a settler settler stuff, like early settler type stuff like Westerns or kind of that time period. And he looks like that on purpose. You know, he looks like somebody who would have shot the president in 1905 or something.

8:23Ben Mandelker: he looks like he could be on a wanted poster yeah it's like he said you know who's gonna be my my

8:28Ronnie Karam: style icon sam elliott yeah or the the sam uh yosemite smith you know yosemite sam yosemite

8:39Ben Mandelker: sam yosemite smith i like that yosemite smith yo samity smith yosemite sam very yosemite sam so anyway it just was like okay it was just one of those things where it's like oh unfortunately the read is totally accurate he really is one of these sad men who finds validation through these ridiculous outlets and I just have no respect for the guy none whatsoever and that's what made it even more cringy watching this episode watching him do his sad thing i'm just a good guy um just to hate that i'm just a good guy yeah and he is doing that a

9:27Ronnie Karam: lot this episode and he's doing the whole you know this is another clue whenever someone's like i hate that bitch you know i never would have none of this would have ever happened if it weren't for that loose woman you know that kind of attitude and the second the woman is crying they're like oh they swoop right in like oh can i be there for you i just feel so bad they see someone vulnerable and they go right in for the kill. You know, it's always guys like that. Always, always. They're always pieces of shit. So that's that. So Eddie sucks. So here we are. We pick up where we left off, the whole fish dinner, where people do not know how to eat a whole fish.

10:06Ronnie Karam: I don't blame them. And they're dealing with the bones. And then Daisy went to make drinks. And then Ben had to do it. So Ben is fuming from this. And he's talking to Jenna. And he's like, this is the most awkward fucking thing I've ever done in my life. Really? Because you were trying to fuck a childish woman less than half your age on a bed without a sheet last week. So, yeah, I would say this might be on the list, but it's not the worst.

10:32Ben Mandelker: And like you had ample time to pivot. OK, Daisy told you don't do this. Are you really going to look at this crew and say, oh, this is the crew that can debone a fish table side? And Ben is up there and he's upset that there's not more people helping out. It's like, where is everyone? Oh, do you want Alicia to come up and debone a fish? She couldn't even put the sugar in the cheesecake. And now you want her to do a delicate operation table side, you fucker. What the hell is he thinking about?

11:04Ronnie Karam: you've done nothing except complain how shitty services this whole season and now you expect them to be able to do bona fish in two seconds no sir he did this on purpose to start shit with jayzy and i'm really glad that it didn't work i think that i think if it was any other captain if this was sandy it would have worked sandy would have been like well you know this is we got to really you know work on this you know we got to hug the fish until the bones come out or whatever she would have been pissed she would have given a lecture but jason just wants to go to bed

11:30Ben Mandelker: He's like, yeah, maybe Jason should have stepped up and said, how about this? We'll take these fish downstairs and we'll debone them there. We'll bring them back up. And that way Ben could have done it downstairs. Maybe his sous chef could have helped. But but as it was right here, this was absolutely ridiculous. And it was all Ben's stupid bruised ego for the fact that Daisy had the had the gall to tell him crew launch at 11. because he was spiraling after that. He's like, oh, she doesn't get to tell me when crew launches. The fact that she comes to do all the orders, I don't know. It's like, you know what, sir, why are you feeding all these people whole snappers?

12:13Ben Mandelker: They don't know how to deal with it. They don't want to deal with it. This is, it's a mega yacht. It's a mega yacht.

12:21Ronnie Karam: It's a mega yacht, Sandy. It's a mega yacht. Yeah, so he's pissed off with Daisy and bitching about her as loudly as possible. But, you know, Daisy, I think, gets let off the hook a lot because we just really like Daisy. But also, Daisy's ridiculous, too. She's like, oh, my God, you want me to the bone of fish? I'm going to go make drinks and just leaves without any. I mean, that was pretty crazy, too. I think she's like, OK, you're going to try and throw me under the bus in front of the captain. Watch what you get to do in front of the captain, bitch. So she plays back at it, but that was also, I mean, there was nobody from service up there.

13:03Ronnie Karam: So just to keep it fair while I'm calling Ben the inside plastic sack full of wine in a Franzi box. You literally do not have to keep it fair.

13:12Ben Mandelker: You actually don't have to keep it fair because we're a podcast and we're not the New York Times. I'm a very fair person.

13:17Ronnie Karam: How dare you say I'm not like the New York Times. The New York Times wish.

13:22Ben Mandelker: New York Times wish. National Geographic wish. Sorry, I don't know why National Geographic... Pulitzer Prize wish. Wall Street Journal wish.

13:35Ben Mandelker: Here's the thing. Okay, I'm going to give Daisy an out because I'm willing to build an excuse for her. I have to imagine that while they're sitting there deboning this fish and it's taking forever, the guests are getting restless. They already were restless. So she's like, let me make them drinks to make them happy while they wait for their fish. So I kind of feel like she was doing something like that. Although I did have an instinct that was like, why are you down there? Like, why is not someone else making the drinks? You probably should be up there overseeing this operation. But she probably was like, I don't want to be.

14:06Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I want to stick it to bed. And you know what? I think actually, I like to believe my theory that she was getting drinks to occupy the guests during this moment. But even if she weren't, even if she was getting back at bed, I think it's deserved. She gave him full warning, fair warning. and she still did what he requested and it was a shit show. And it wasn't a shit show because she undermined it. It was a shit show because it was always going to be a shit show.

14:31Ronnie Karam: Yeah. It was destined to be a shit show. So he's pissed. He's having a fist. And he's like, well, I was hoping that the majority of these guests would be okay with a whole fish, which is how I like to eat it. Oh, okay. It's a spectacular display of having a local fish. But Daisy, obviously, you know what? A local display would be a beautiful display to catch a fish, gut the fish, grill the fish. I'm at a restaurant. You better get that shit done for me. Get this whole fish out of my fucking way. And you know what else? Why do they keep serving Branzino whole? I'm so sick of this trend. I'm sick.

15:05Ronnie Karam: I'm more sick of that trend than I am sick of Brussels sprouts in my fucking face on every day. I'm sick of it. I've had it. These Branzino, do you know how tiny those bones are? They are the hardest bones to get out of a fucking fish. and that's the fish they serve whole you know well when we did it it was like the chilean sea bass or whatever the patagonian toothfish whatever those are bones those are bones you can deal with oh no it was ludomare anyway but those are bones you can deal with not this fucking excuse me as he's prissy what did you say about me you know the mayor

15:46Ben Mandelker: you know that's a curse word it's luda mayor not luda maired oh since when is the mayor named lou

15:56Ben Mandelker: what's that about me and john mayor well yes we did have sex what no we didn't okay turns out it was that kid from southern hospitality still fun

16:07Ronnie Karam: just in case anybody's wondering a luda mayor is a mediterranean sea bass So I got the sea bass right. But the rest of it.

16:15Ben Mandelker: The sea bass is just always getting rebranded. You know why? So sad.

16:20Ronnie Karam: Because they're big boned. I feel like a lot of us who grew up big boned, that was like a criticism. People are like, oh, Ronnie, there's Ronnie. He's big boned. They're like calling me fat. But a fish, if a fish is big boned, it's like, yes, I want to eat that fish whole. Give it to me. I want to eat it.

16:35Ben Mandelker: I'm going to have a whole fish tonight, I've decided, because I really want to practice my deboning. After this whole fiasco, my takeaway is that I really want to learn how to do this. We talked about this last week and how you had to do a table side, et cetera. And I would like to give it a good college try. So I am going to get myself a whole fish. It might be a brand Zeno because I think that's like a nice sized fish for one. And yeah, I'm going to give it a college try because I'm sick of it. I'm sick of these bones and I got to learn how to get those bones out.

17:05Ronnie Karam: Just to practice with the bones. That's good.

17:08Ben Mandelker: Yeah.

17:09Ronnie Karam: Just give me a breast. A fish breast. Just a little fish breast. One little

17:17Ben Mandelker: teat. A little fishy teat.

17:18Ronnie Karam: You know what I'm eating tonight? A microwave sweet potato. Doesn't that sound delicious?

17:23Ben Mandelker: I had one of those yesterday for lunch. That's all I have when I'm too lazy to go to the store.

17:29Ronnie Karam: And my dad's like, oh, you're leaving for New York. We should try and have dinner. What part of I am memorizing lyrics as Tamara, don't you understand? Okay.

17:41what part of me singing a song in full Gina Kirschenheider voice,

17:47Ben Mandelker: do you not understand? This takes time and effort.

17:51Ronnie Karam: I'm going to be working on a turban for Dorinda Medley. I have two days left. I think I'm going to go eat with you. Get a life father.

18:02Ben Mandelker: I want to say that I had a sweet potato that I had. I made last week from my vegan cookbook. And I made it with vegan yogurt. And what was great was it was sort of like a South Asian preparation. So you also make kind of like a green chutney, like a minty jalapeno chutney, and then also some tamarind sauce. And I have to tell you, divine and tamarind sauce with a sweet potato is like a match made in heaven. And I think next time you do your, your, your sweet potato lunch or dinner or whatever it is, consider adding, adding some tamarind sauce. I will give you,

18:51Ronnie Karam: I will say I do not have that as a staple in my house. So what I'm going to do, it does sound delicious. So maybe I'll get it next time I go to the store, but I think I'm just using good old fashioned Harissa. is going to be very hot and sweet. That's it. Very simple.

19:06Ben Mandelker: That works as well. Or next time you order Indian food, just ask for a little thing on the side.

19:12Ronnie Karam: Oh, that's smart. And now I would just like to acknowledge that the audience is asking themselves why they're here. So, sweet potatoes. A little sweet potato recap, fuckers. Get into it. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

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20:46Ronnie Karam: California resident loans made or arranged pursuant to a California financing law license and MLS number 135-3190. Klarna balance account required to be eligible for cashback points, limitations, terms, and conditions apply. So Ben is pissed and Daisy's like, oh, service is a total shit show. Jenna's like, why are you serving fish with bonza? Because who's serving fish with bonza? People that are having a bon.

21:15Ben Mandelker: And so Ellie, she's slowly moving into Tamra, Tamra territory.

21:20Ronnie Karam: That's because I just said Tamra. Yeah, yeah. Hey, Ben, that's why everybody's eating the set fucking fish with the bones. I didn't eat that fucking fish with the bones. I didn't eat enough fish had bones.

21:31Ben Mandelker: I feel bad about the fish. That's Gina's a steal. I feel bad about your stripes. So, uh, Ellie's like, not great. And Ben's like, not great, Ellie.

21:44Ronnie Karam: Yeah, not great. Daisy wasn't around. Gerard was filleting someone's fish, filleting, I should say, which was really fucking awkward. I mean, my God, that guy was sweating all over the fish. He called it a thundercut fitness.

21:58Ben Mandelker: Oh, my God. Yes, you know, Daisy should be able to fillet a fish. That's like silver service. It's just fucking weird, mate. Like, I don't think it's that Daisy had a problem doing it. It's that it was only going to be her and she needed help. Otherwise, someone's going to wait eight minutes for their fish. So, like, that's the issue.

22:20Ronnie Karam: Miss Ellie. Oh, it's silver service. Oh, really, Ellie? Because you're a stew. So why don't you get up there and show them how it's done if you know how to do it? If she knew how to filet a fish, she would have been up there in two seconds proving that she could do better than Daisy. You know she could have, but you didn't know how to do it either. So stop standing up for Ben. I do not believe you, ma 'am.

22:40Ben Mandelker: yeah a wise man one said filet of fish a hamburger a cheeseburger a happy meal thank you everyone so ellie said at least ellie's like she says she sits on a very high horse and what we've seen from servers has been a disaster i'm like you guys sent out six whole fish what do you expect to happen do you think those bones are just gonna magically just come out of it you you know you've said yourself like who else like if you think okay okay i know we don't need to litigate this because we're everyone's on the same side but listen to what they're saying they're like oh god like daisy she's no good she's no good and then they're saying well we gave her we gave her a fish to the bone and she couldn't even do that well you just were saying she's no good so why would you do that in the first place right exactly and also you just send out eggs with dish soap on them

23:35Ronnie Karam: not too long ago. Let's just reel it in. No pun intended.

23:41Ben Mandelker: People in glass houses shouldn't be throwing bottles of Dawn. So Ben is like, well, I know and you've got one girl on service and that's what we're up against. We've just been under such pressure from her that we assume she's going to do her job. I think that's what everyone's assuming from you, Ben, actually.

24:00Ronnie Karam: Really? It says the man who can't fillet a fish for people.

24:04Ben Mandelker: Because he's got a frosted cake. all of a sudden.

24:07Ronnie Karam: So now we go to the guests eating, and they're like, oh my god, this fish is fucking incredible. You know, I'm billionaire friends, and I love fish like this. That's my billionaire friend Sutton Foster. She loves it. I'm at her house in London right now.

24:25Ben Mandelker: I give this one five piles of mulch out of five. I do backyards. So Daisy's like, she's like, well, what time do you want hot breakfast? They're like, 8 a.m. please for a continental breakfast. So Jason's like, well, excuse me. I've got to go check in on the anchor and spray some sandalwood on my neck and maybe get into a kimono. I've said too much. Goodbye, everyone.

24:51Ronnie Karam: I'm halfway through the season of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Those ladies are crazy. Good luck to you all. Enjoy your dessert, right? So now we go to the galley. Jason comes down and he's like, yeah, your service was a bit low. the whole night was pretty hectic and brent's like yeah sorry it could have been good but whatever whatever daisy so then joao's and the and the crew are in the stairwell and he's like well

25:15Ben Mandelker: we're gonna walk out now and then jason will come through with a birthday zim cake like okay so they go out to the dinner table and jason is scantily clad he's like hello and then joao all the guys are uh basically in naked and joao's like hello ladies and gentlemen it's someone's birthday and you've got a surprise. So then Jason comes out and he's got like, he's got like a little inflatable snake and everything because it's like Garden of Eden and he's like sexy at him. And they're like, wow, yes, queen, yes. We'll have one. We'll have what he's having, et cetera, et cetera.

25:50Ronnie Karam: You got to love the Garden of Eden. God, the beginning of telling gays that we're going to hell. So what gay person wants to celebrate Bible things? Come on, man. I mean, I know it's because it said garden in it, but aren't there other secret garden? You know? Well, maybe that would be creepy. Be like a little girl whose parents died as a party. But still, you know, there's other things. It was the plague. Okay. It was the plague.

26:18Ben Mandelker: What about like garden? Like what's a really good garden? I feel like there's a really, there's like a really good garden that should be turned into like a party theme.

26:29Ronnie Karam: Just Lowe's. Like Lowe's Garden Center. Just do a Lowe's. Everybody wants to fuck somebody from a Lowe's. We've all seen somebody we want to fuck at a Lowe's. That's a good gay party.

26:40Ben Mandelker: Everybody wants to fuck someone at Lowe's. Everybody needs to get railed between trees. Something in my cart just tells me the garden center is where I'll get blown. Okay.

27:00Ronnie Karam: Yes. See, boner. Instant boner. So now they get strawberry cheesecake, and then we go to Jenna and Joao at the bar, and Jenna's like, has Eddie tried to speak to you at all? Like, she must have thought that I was doing. Is Eddie doing okay? Stop asking about Eddie, okay? Don't. Leave Eddie alone. Go get attention from somebody else. I know we're on a gay charter, but I don't know. Go flirt with one of them. Okay. I mean, I wouldn't say using Eddie, but definitely seek attention from him. I need to work on speaking about a different man and it's a big reality check that I'm gonna work for. I'm back and I'm getting rocks.

27:37Ronnie Karam: I'm determined to get my stress back.

27:40Ben Mandelker: What was that?

27:41Ronnie Karam: I get my stress back.

27:42Ben Mandelker: You're gonna get your stress back?

27:44Ronnie Karam: Streps.

27:45Ben Mandelker: Strep? Like strep? Strep. Yeah.

27:49Ronnie Karam: So she's like, yeah, I need to stop working on getting validation from men so Ben and Eddie can both kick rocks but she doesn't listen to herself for the rest of the episode. She's like, okay, I'll just keep going to do it anyway. So she's like,

28:11Ben Mandelker: Jenna is like someone who loves going to a parking garage 10 times a day. She needs a lot of validation. Yeah, a lot of it.

28:19Ronnie Karam: Yeah.

28:19Ben Mandelker: So now Daisy and Alicia are serving the table and the guest is like, hey, are you the second stew? and Daisy's like, no, Alicia's not my second stew. I currently don't have a second stew. I mean, look at this one. She's an idiot. She's balancing a water jug on her head for no good reason. And look, it just fell off. I mean, I could have told you that would happen. And now she's got one of those Bronzinos on her head. We weren't even seeing her serving Bronzino. I was a red snapper. Where'd you get the Bronzino from? I'm telling you, she's a real idiot. So no, she's not the second stew.

28:50Ronnie Karam: Oh, and Alicia says, when Jenna got demoted, there was a bit of me that thought, maybe she can see me in that role. why would anybody see you in that can we list the shit that you've done this season are you fucking crazy isn't this your second time ever being a stew first of all yeah yeah first time isn't it your first time ever being a stew because she was a she was a chef galley hand the last time

29:16Ben Mandelker: yeah what in what way did she think that she was deserving of being the second stew like she's just so lucky that the rest of the boat has sort of been turned into a shit show for the second half of the season that basically we're able to take our foot off the gas pedal with her. But Alicia has been a total fucking disaster all season long. And now she's like, I thought I could be second Stu. Because you could do hospital corners on a bed? Come on.

29:42Ronnie Karam: Can she? Have we seen proof of that? I'm not even sure. Yeah, I don't think so. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. So she's like, yeah, I could do that role. I mean, I'd probably lay down the law a bit more. I'd delegate a bit more. Yeah, we don't need you delegating. we need you knowing how to do the actual job first. Okay, crazy pants.

30:02Ben Mandelker: Please. So Jason's like, all right, everyone. So the breakfast is going to be around eight-ish. So we'll do a slide in the morning. And good job, everyone. Good job deboning that fish and mangling it and making it look terrible. By the way, through all this, one thing that we have not really articulated is that when the guests are eating their fish, their plates look crazy. It's just like shredded, mangled fish that winds up on all their plates. It looked like someone was making tuna salad and stopped midway through. It was crazy. It looked crazy.

30:42Ronnie Karam: So Daisy is with Joelle, and she's like, were the golly bitching about me earlier? He's like, well, I think they're just bitching because I did the zimlaying. You know, I zimmed those fish right up with the knife, and I don't think they like that very much.

30:56Ben Mandelker: But you could overhear. Come on, let's go outside. Tell me out here. And so then Ben's like, well, I wasn't even allowed in the Garden of Eden. I'm cooking in hell for everyone. Is anyone here to appreciate my biblical witticisms here? No? Okay, back to you, Daisy, out there with Joel.

31:15Ronnie Karam: Well, I'm just pissed off. I'm like, yeah, that service was a fucking shit show. But I'm pretty sure I overheard him say, I don't have anyone up there. Well, we have cabins to do. We have drinks to do. We have dinner service. Come on.

31:28Ben Mandelker: He was inventing, like you are now. And that's what I think. No, but I wouldn't be like this if he didn't start this. It's a fucking common theme all season long. And then on top of that, Ellie speaks to me disrespectfully. don't respect me she doesn't respect me as a head of department i'm so over as a while and he's like oh well i think everyone's warranted to have a bitching session for as long as it doesn't

31:50Ronnie Karam: continue i mean i'm on both sides oh really are you ever planning on getting laid because this is not how to do it i'm on both sides i know i'm like sir out of here sir and you know that ben is

32:02Ben Mandelker: in the wrong but this is you know rose before hose this is it's happening right here yeah but i mean

32:09Ronnie Karam: I don't think Ben was 100 % wrong. I still think Ben was being an asshole, but Daisy did just totally desert the second those fish came out, and Joao was doing it for Daisy. So I think in Joao's mind, he's probably like, I was the one flaying the fish. You weren't even up. What are you talking about? But still, both sides know. Just lie. Just say Ben's wrong. I love you. Ben is wrong.

32:32Ben Mandelker: I think in Joao's mind, he is like a knight in shining armor, but what we see is that he is the exact opposite like when he initially quote unquote broke up with ellie and he like couldn't even just say it to her and he just like let her on again it's all he had to do is say i that was fun the other night but i really just see us as friends and just be done with it but he's like you know he he sort of went in this circuitous pattern with whatever he was saying it was so it was so ridiculous he's just he's just these are easy things to take a stance on and he's just not doing it and i don't know why he can't do it but he's like usually people take the path the path of least resistance with ben and daisy doesn't go for that path she goes for the head of the head-on clash and she does not like losing it's a battle of two very big egos and i take and take it from me i've been there i've seen the repercussions the battle between both of them can be detrimental to all of us these adults need to sort this out

33:31Ronnie Karam: whatever i'm sick of the galley good chat both sides bitch so then we go to the crew mass and daisy ben and ellie are down there and daisy's like ben they want like a continental at nine and ellie's like ah jason said eight well maybe i said eight well was it eight or nine why don't you go and ask them she goes why don't you go and ask them i was just up there and ellie what where did you get that information from she's like jason said it but i don't know who spoke to him Okay, well, we were both there. So if he said it's eight, then it's eight. God.

34:03Ben Mandelker: Eight is enough. So she's so mad. She's like, what Tweedledee and Tweedledom don't get is that I am trying to help them by giving them the wrong time for breakfast.

34:16Ronnie Karam: You know, that's not how you engage with me. She's so defensive. It's unbelievable. She never has done anything wrong in her life. I'm sure of it. I'm absolutely sure of that.

34:29Ben Mandelker: So Daisy's like, you're winding me fucking up. So Ben's like, okay, so breakfast. They were on a continental. You've never done it before, though. Mango meats. But let's write this on the board, okay? You need to cut the fruit. You need to make a fruit platter, pastries, bagels. Put on your bra. See how your boobies look in them. Sorry, I got distracted there. Put some bread in the oven. It's intense. Do you think you can put bread in the oven?

34:56Ronnie Karam: Yes, yes, I can put bread. This is my moment.

35:02Ben Mandelker: This has definitely been. I'm so sorry. No, other me. I want to hear. This is an important emotional moment for me. What am I feeling?

35:11Ronnie Karam: After this, I will put sous chef on my Instagram.

35:16Ben Mandelker: Ooh, I put pot of water on stove. I am basically Michelin star chef now.

35:24Ronnie Karam: All right. You're sure you're good to do all of this plus cut the bread? Not the cheese. The bread. Ah, right, boss. I'm on it. I'm up for the challenge.

35:36Ben Mandelker: All right. Do the gourds. I'm going to go to sleep. Tell the audience how you're feeling now.

35:44Ronnie Karam: I was done. Oh, well, okay.

35:48Ben Mandelker: Well, in case you wanted a monologue, now would be a good time. Oh, yes. This has definitely been a rough season for me. and however I've grown so much I've matured in many ways and I've learned how to look at things from a different perspective

36:00Ronnie Karam: which is always the right perspective now I'm seeing things from floor cause I'm on floor now I'm seeing things from under table cause I'm under table

36:13Ben Mandelker: you know you'll get the best out of me if you give me a chance to prove myself and if you buy my carrots so I can have milk

36:20Ronnie Karam: alright you're doing great bubble blada so then um the next morning is the last day of charter alicia and jenna are in their room and alicia's like hello miss jenna your poos always smell like baby poos that's i feel like not a great quality perhaps um and she's like but i haven't even pooped yet He's like, have you not?

36:46Ben Mandelker: Oh, maybe that was my poo. I don't know. So then Ellie is preparing her fruit platter. And Daisy goes to, we're in Daisy and Joao's room. And they're like making out in the bathroom. He's like, oh, now it's a party. And Ellie makes all these pastries. She does a very nice job. She really puts out a very nice continental breakfast. And Ben's like, wow, it looks like a bloody bakery in here. Well done, sugar gourds. I guess I already just said a gourd thing Anyway I'm really into gourd today Sorry what can I say Everything's about gourd

37:23Ronnie Karam: Sugar lumps So yeah she did a really nice job With the breakfast stuff And so they start running it up Daisy's greeting the guests At breakfast Ellie's like well wait are there any guests around Or what is going on I love the amount of communication we're getting God this is great and meanwhile one of their radios is off I think it's their radio

37:47Ben Mandelker: wasn't this when there was a radio issue maybe it was in a different part of the episode but I thought it was right here where basically Daisy is like hello hello they're ready for breakfast but Ellie's like oh my radio was off and so she doesn't hear Daisy say that and then they're waiting around and they're like gosh what's going on not realizing that they've already been summoned

38:08Ronnie Karam: yeah this communication sucks Meanwhile, Daisy's complimenting her. She's like, oh, Ellie did a good job this morning. Well, that's good. And then Ben's like, oh, she probably doesn't even know where the guests are. Stupid Daisy. So downstairs or upstairs, downstairs, upstairs, wherever they're eating, they're like, oh, wow. This Continental, this is crazy. Hot billionaires love this. I know so many of them. did you just

38:38Ben Mandelker: did you just put a hedge into the middle of our continental breakfast sorry force of habit you didn't want that croissant did you not anymore

38:48Ronnie Karam: are you whacking your omelette could you stop copiaries don't form themselves bitch

38:58Ben Mandelker: did you just add miracle grow to my watermelon props

39:03Ronnie Karam: and look it's bigger now who's bitching

39:08Ben Mandelker: guys everyone who has a mustache you're all gonna get extra pieces of cantaloupe okay oh i guess everyone so jenna's like uh how's everyone doing how are you doing bobby you look tired just like i can't feel my legs yeah i use the elevator you get that the exact same amount of time work smarter not harder you know what i'm saying wow jenna with that great elevator hack for going to a higher floor.

39:32Ronnie Karam: Truly, though, some people just won't do it. I mean, it's like that in real life, too. People are like, oh, I take the stairs. Okay, loser. Like, geez, why don't you just, like, find someone named technology and just shit on their head?

39:45Ben Mandelker: People work very hard

39:46Ronnie Karam: to bring you elevators.

39:48Ben Mandelker: Here's what I do hate. You're in a tall building. You're taking the elevator down. Tall building already. Already we're triggered. But we're in a tall building. I actually love a tall building. but you're in a tall building and you're going down and the elevator stopping so many places. And you're finally like, you stopped at three floors and then now you're on a real good run. That elevator is going, you're whooshing down. You're just almost at the lobby. And then at like M mezzanine, the elevator stops and someone gets on and takes it down one floor. I'm like, there was a stair. I guarantee you're on the mezzanine.

40:21Ben Mandelker: There was probably an escalator that you could have taken or a staircase, but you had to stop our flow when we worked so hard just to get to this point. I cannot stand when people take the elevator to go one floor down to the lobby at that point, find a staircase to go down because you're going down. Okay. If you're obviously, you know, if you're an able bodied person, whatever the, whatever, that's probably not the nicest way to say it. I don't know what the proper term is to say it like, but if you're capable of, of taking the staircase down and you don't take the staircase down, then fuck you.

40:56Ben Mandelker: You ruined my elevator journey.

40:58Ronnie Karam: i'm just staying quiet over here because i am that person sorry that person well i'm not i'm not i don't approve ronnie i don't approve i can't support you if you if there is an escalator or a

41:10Ben Mandelker: staircase that can take you down to the lobby i just don't think you should take the elevator that one floor down because the people who are in that elevator have probably had to make many stops and you're so close to the end and to have to stop on the mezzanine but my favorite thing to do is

41:27Ronnie Karam: to do that and I'll be like on the mezzanine and then the elevator stops and everybody gives me a look and I'm like oh my gosh is this going down my bad guess I'll just wait wait for it to go back up

41:41Ben Mandelker: you know what I do like doing you know what I love I actually love a passive aggressive won't get in the elevator moment like I love standing with like four people at the same elevator bank and then the elevator comes and they get in the elevator and they look at me like are you coming too and I go no because I'm like, I don't want to be in an elevator with you. I love that, but I don't say I don't want to. I just don't, and they have to think about it. I wonder why he didn't want to get in the elevator with us. And then, of course, I wait 10 minutes for the next elevator, and then I'm mad at the person who stops me because I've already waited so long because I was being passive-aggressive to the first group.

42:14Ronnie Karam: Oh, elevator. So much manipulation to be had. I know.

42:18Ben Mandelker: We're kind of not smarter.

42:21Ronnie Karam: So Ben and Ellie are still down there, and she's like, I was so happy with the little fruit platter. It looks so cute. And he's like, yeah, I liked it. You know, you've done really well. Like something out of Gourmet Magazine. I've got a sous chef now, an actual sous chef, crushed today. And you might have that title tomorrow, eh? And you could rub it in all their faces, all of them. Oh, gosh. First of all, why are you telling her that? If you're not going to give it to her, then don't tell her maybe. But I have to ask Jason. Yikes.

42:51Ben Mandelker: Yeah, that's true. That creates a lot of tension if Jason says no. Puts Jason in a bad position. Also, she put croissants and fruit cubes on a platter. It's like Goldman Sachs. I'm like, okay. When Ellie first came on board, she was a stewardess and was willing to chop vegetables and clean. And since then, she's come an incredibly long way. She can now put those chopped vegetables onto a platter. And I'm considering promoting Ellie because I'm proud of her. And I wanted to take something home that was so accolades. I'm like, why don't you just like call up Jeff Probst and see if the Survivor art department can make one of those paper mache things that they gave to Sari.

43:33Ben Mandelker: Because I think that's the best that you're going to do in terms of taking home a tchotchke from this show.

43:37Ronnie Karam: She goes back home. She's like, hi.

43:44Ronnie Karam: What happened to Ellie? What happened to our little fruit seller? So Ben's like, I'm going to go talk to Jason about something, but I'm not going to tell you what it is, little girl, all right? It rhymes with move-left. All right, I'll be right back.

44:02Ben Mandelker: Move-left? Oh. Do-left. I hear you again, do-left. What?

44:12Ronnie Karam: Do-left. What, are we playing music? All right, I'll be right back.

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46:36Ronnie Karam: earlier when they're like, wait a minute, are you the second stew? I feel like they're producer plants because why are they, why are they acting like this?

46:45Ben Mandelker: I do love plants. They love us. Um, I mean, look, it was a, it was a beautiful spread. We're not dissing that, but like they were acting like they've never seen a breakfast spread before on a yacht. I mean, they probably haven't seen a breakfast spread on a yacht before, but either way, the point is that like, you're supposed to be like wealthy landscapers. And so you're supposed to be used to like wealthy breakfast spreads you know um gonna die on some weird breakfast spread hill well it is very it is very below

47:13Ronnie Karam: deck where everybody acts like they're so rich and then they're shocked by the smallest things like remember that lady who was like um can i get a butter could i get a i don't need a butter knife for this remember when she's like i don't want a butter knife to cut my fish and asia was like um actually that's a fish knife she goes oh really you're gonna school me she's like I've been doing this for a very long time it's a fish knife you dumb bitch that was great

47:41Ben Mandelker: so in the bridge Ben goes up to Jason so I want to recommend Ellie for promotion for a sous chef position and Daisy happens to walk in right there and she's like I know you wanted a coffee I'd love one thank you very much and some sandalwood so she basically hears Ben saying about the recommendation for a promotion and she's like what the fuck it's like well i just see that she's cooking now she's got she got up today and she cooked the pastries i know it's not big but her role has

48:12Ronnie Karam: transformed yeah it's completely different now now she's rolling turkey into tubes putting them next to cubes of cheese completely changed and jason's like all right Great. So I'd like to recommend her for president of the United States of America.

48:36Ben Mandelker: Actually, it might be an improvement, so we will accept that.

48:43Ronnie Karam: Finally, a president that will be able to roll turkey properly.

48:49Ben Mandelker: I heard that the Strait of Hormuz was flirting with Joelle.

48:54Ronnie Karam: I want to merge my genetics with the Strait of Hormuz.

48:59Ben Mandelker: Until Joelle finds love in me I will continue to raise gas prices Until they are$10 a gallon

49:09Ronnie Karam: So Daisy hears this And she's like what the fuck And Brim's like yeah you know She's cooking now She got up today she made pastries I know it's not that big but her role has transformed Completely different person Transformers What is amazing is I can still jerk off to her in about under five minutes on Instagram. Pretty amazing. Give her a raise.

49:34Ben Mandelker: Her role has literally transformed. Now she can make little breaded ducks. It's gorgeous.

49:41Ronnie Karam: Now she can turn from a car into a giant killing robot.

49:46Ben Mandelker: It's pretty impressive. She somehow made that big scary robot apologize to her. I don't know how she did that.

49:56Ronnie Karam: so now i get jenner in the pantry and daisy's like oh ben wants to promote her to so herself can you believe that bullshit and jenna's like well she's not a chef she hasn't cooked any meals for the crew and that's what a chef does i don't know really what you said but i feel like

50:15Ben Mandelker: you agreed with me based on your tone so i want to say thank you because all she's really done is a golly hon job i'm not and i'm saying she's done her job and by the way i want to say another thing going back to going all the way back to alicia saying that she felt like she she thought she might be up a second stew after jenna was demoted we did not mention that then we cut to alicia eating the leftovers off of the oh yes eating straight off the plates and a lot of them

50:42Ronnie Karam: do that asia does that too speaking of asia i brought her up before today but yeah a lot of

50:47Ben Mandelker: them do that they'll just go eat straight off the plate oh and just because it's like someone else's food that you don't know i just think that's you don't know where that's been the other day i saw

50:58Ronnie Karam: this video it like came up on my social and it was this lady sitting in a car with a monkey and she was drinking out of a straw and then she passed the drink to the monkey and then the monkey like was drinking out of the straw but it wasn't really drinking because you didn't see any of the liquid go i think it was blowing into the straw i mean lady is this is this how we got the pandemic I think we figured it out. I figured it out on Instagram.

51:23Ben Mandelker: Or it's just a very specific use of AI.

51:27Ronnie Karam: I don't think that was AI. Because normally if it's AI, people are in the comments like, fuck this AI slap. Like they get really mad. Like remember that time I thought there were actual babies performing the Housewives reunions? So stupid. There were these AI videos of like baby versions of the Housewives. And I really believe, I was like, those babies are such good actors. they looked real it's like how did they get such good actors they were ai ai yeah so daisy tells

51:57Ben Mandelker: us ellie has issues with everybody she has problems with me and how i run the galley she doesn't respect the interior she has an ego ben trying to promote her as a big fuck you daisy well i know jason's not going to promote her uh i don't know why i'm referring to myself in the third person. I think I just have had too much sandalwood scent in. It's affecting my brain. Yeah,

52:20Ronnie Karam: someone said that, and Jenna's like, I'm not so sure. I think it takes Ben's world quite sassy. So then Ben's like, well, it's up to you, Jason, but I think she's quite good. By the way, I've told her that I'm recommending her, so she's going to really take it out on you if you don't raise her. Alright, have a good one there, buddy. By the way, your nuts are hanging out onto the seat. Yeah, let's have this kimono is sewn, but thank you. Please go.

52:44Ben Mandelker: I don't know, mate. All I'm trying to think of is four charters ago. And we see a flashback to them fighting and Ellie wanting to quit. It's like, and then you get rewarded for behaving that way and then actually doing what you're supposed to do. Which I was glad he said this because that's really it. Like she's just doing the job that was assigned and she's like done it like, well, Ellie's done a very nice job. I think probably better than any of us expected in that role. It's been great to see her flourish. And then she's gone off to culinary school after the season, which I think is super awesome.

53:15Ben Mandelker: But like, let's like, let's just like slow the roll here. Okay. You got to work your way up to sous chef. Okay. You just, you just can't do it. I just don't think you can get it in your first season. Okay. Like you just have to, you put in the time, put in the effort.

53:29Ronnie Karam: So then Daisy's like, oh, it's insulting to be honest. I'll throw a fucking tantrum of the silence. I want you right now. Okay. We all know.

53:37Ben Mandelker: You will throw a tantrum or you're in the middle of it. Yeah.

53:42Ronnie Karam: You're in a constant tantrum. So Ben's like, her role is transformed, blah, blah, blah. He's still going. And Jason's like, well, it's probably not the right time. You know, Jenna's got demoted. That would send shockwaves through the whole yachting community.

53:59Ben Mandelker: Excellent shockwaves. And guess what? I just got a call from every single yacht in the world, and they can't believe that I prematurely promoted a sous chef. shockwaves, I tell you.

54:12Ronnie Karam: You know, Ben's already lost a sous-chef this season and Ellie's been reprimanded and she's working her way back from that. A promotion has to be warranted, alright? Now, I don't just hand those out, alright? They're not raffle tickets.

54:25Ben Mandelker: Demotions, on the other hand, absolutely. Love them. Would love to. You're all demoted, especially the women. So, uh, he basically dismisses Ben and then Ben's like, all right then i will just leave in a very cool chill way and then ben can't get out the door because he's he's like pulling it and he's pushing it instead of pulling it he's like all right oh it's one that you pull i see i see okay yes definitely take this man's uh advice on who to promote as we're gonna demote anyone

55:00Ronnie Karam: demote this door all right oh i deserve more respect than that so he leaves and then in the crew mess um alicia alicia and batul are holding hands and ben's like oh that is kind of weird crew contact is kind of weird all right let's get it together triscuit which tonsils you know i just bought some triscuits yesterday did you not like oh triscuits are good i was thinking of wait the one made out of wheat the wheat straws or those wheat it's like straw Yeah, it's like... Oh, no, no, no. I hate those things. Oh, boy. Really?

55:36Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I enjoy a Trisket. It's so dry. I got it because I'm... No, they're not as dry as they seem. I think they've adjusted it. I think... So one of the perks of shrink-flation... Don't tell me what my mouth feels. No, I'm going to. Don't gaslight me into it.

55:50Ronnie Karam: Don't gaslight my mouth. Well, you're...

55:53Ben Mandelker: I'm like, oh, wow, wow.

55:54Ronnie Karam: It's not that dry mouth.

55:57Ben Mandelker: Good. Well, the... Triskets are really good. And especially like you really shouldn't be having them like a naked Triscuit. You should be dipping it into something or putting a piece of cheese on it. Let's be honest. Well, that's true.

56:10Ronnie Karam: You should be putting a piece of cheese on everything. Even if you're just chewing on your fingernails, put a piece of cheese on it.

56:15Ben Mandelker: If you're having a piece of cheese, you should put another piece of cheese on top of it. No, but I made like a little spread yesterday. And so like the recommended serving was with a Triscuit. Literally, I called for a Triscuit in the cookbook. And so I got the Triscuits. And then I thought to myself, of course, you know, the only thing I could think of in that moment was Alicia going, cracker, got a cracker. I need a cracker right now. I love a cracker. I love a cracker. She will single-handedly boost the cracker industry. I'm going to tell you that, and I'm being fully serious.

56:47Ronnie Karam: She did, actually, because I ordered some crackers, too, from the store, and I've been eating crackers as well because I was like, I love a cracker, too. Like, why should I not have crackers?

56:54Ben Mandelker: I feel like we all eat crackers and the crackers are always around and we always see them in spread. We always reach to crackers, but I rarely think to myself, I need a snack. I need to go buy a box of crackers for that snack. I never like center the cracker in my life or in my snacking. And so when I got these crackers, admittedly they were part of a spread, but I also was like putting my hand in there and snacking on it. And every time I had one, I was like, I have a cracker. Like every time. I want a cracker.

57:24Ronnie Karam: I want a cracker. I want a cracker. Love a horse. I'm talking about Triscuits. Love a horse. You should get a horse too. She loves horses.

57:32Ben Mandelker: Haas and cracker. I think I'm going to try to go up to Rhode Island, by the way. I'm just telling that right now. You should. You should do it. Go to Pizza Mama. I'm going to go to Pizza Mama. I really am. I'm going to go to Pizza Mama. I'm really excited.

57:44Ronnie Karam: Yeah, that sounded like a little fun day trip from the city, but I found out it was three hours, so I don't think so. I don't think I'm going to go that far for a slice. But, you know, sounds fun You take video for me, I'll watch it I will So Jenna and Daisy, Daisy's like, I've just done my job I want to be Chief Stew, look at that Well, can I go back to second seven? She's like, I don't know about that I don't know about that, and they start laughing And Ben's like, oh god This crew contact is really weird And Alicia's like, yeah, says you With your tongue down Jenna's throat And he's like

58:21Ben Mandelker: yeah since when is that but since what has been approved about crew contact especially as someone who's making a lot of contact and has made a lot of contact over the years oh oh i didn't realize he was joking i was like i was just so ready to be mad but when he said that i was like oh i know he's not saying that so then um uh eddie walks in to jenna's room uh He does the knock and walk in, which I can't stand.

58:48Ronnie Karam: He keeps walking into women's rooms. This is like the fourth time he's done it. Yeah, of course.

58:55Ben Mandelker: So he's like, hello, lovey. She's like, hi, hi, hi. It's like, all the towels are missing. Do you have any? Yes, you can take some. I'll give them back to be washed. How are you? I didn't even know. You know, when we spoke, I didn't know that you lost your second steel roll. So I'm really sorry to hear that. I don't really know what you said, but if you meant to say, I love you, Eddie, I'll take you back. I apologize. I'll be your wife. I can't wait to spend the rest of my life backpacking from hostel to hostel. The answer is yes, I will accept the offer.

59:31Ronnie Karam: I will impregnate you. And so he's like, you know, Jenna's taken me on an absolute rollercoaster of a ride. You're a psycho. That's why you've been on a rollercoaster ride. You fell in love with someone in five minutes, you fucking weirdo. He's like, but I just let my anger and emotion decimate my behavior. I feel so embarrassed. You fucking should. You fucking should feel embarrassed.

59:52Ben Mandelker: Yeah, you're a failure. So, yeah, he's like, you know, to potentially want to quit, that's not good. And that's not something I'm proud of. And I feel guilty now because she's just been demoted as well. And I can't help but feel like that's my fault because it is your fault. It is your fault. Yours and Ben's. It was a tag team of your fault. It was all your faults. And by the way, oh, and now you're like, oh, but I feel better today now. Oh, great. Well, guess what? She still has one stripe. Thanks to you.

1:00:22Ronnie Karam: Well, yeah. You feel better today because you threw her under the bus, then helped get her demoted, and now she's in a vulnerable position where you can swoop in again and act like Prince Charming and act like you're there to support her when you were really the one throwing her under the bus. You little shit. So now the guests are playing in the water. And Daisy, Daisy, Daisy, Dicey, Daisy, radios Jenna to start setting up for lunch. And then she kind of comes in to see if she can get gossip from Jason. She's like, are you having chats with Ben then? And he goes, yes. She's like, all right. Well, I guess I'll just leave now.

1:00:57Ronnie Karam: Came up here really for no reason. Very important. I came to dust something. Look, I've dusted it. Nothing else to say. All right. I'll leave. God damn it. God damn it.

1:01:06Ben Mandelker: And then in the main salon, Barbie and Alicia and Joao are there. And Alicia comes in with a tray of glasses. She's like, ha ha ha ha. That looked like a very grumpy face. Or as we say in Zimbabwe, a zim-mumpy face. Get it? Because we replaced the grump with the zim. It's very funny if you think about it. Anyway. Oh, you're just concentrating. Never mind. Why don't you smile? Smile like the pretty girl that you are. Ha ha ha.

1:01:32Ronnie Karam: You'd be a lot more prettier if you just smiled, toots. and she's like uh yeah she's trying to like balance glasses so just let her like balance the glasses look really hard and alicia's like what annoys me is that i feel like something daisy sees something in jenna that she doesn't see in me yeah a competent worker alicia didn't this spell that for you what is wrong with you she's like she's like she doesn't see me busting my ass like i don't know what i'm not proving and she's made it really obvious that I'll never even get an opportunity to be the second in her eyes. Girl, you're the second in nobody's eyes.

1:02:05Ronnie Karam: You've been here five minutes.

1:02:07Ben Mandelker: I know. I know. Barbie's like, so she said that to you? And she's like, no, but it's been inferred, inferred by you based off of nothing. Okay. So Barbie's like, um, Alicia puts in a lot of hard work, but she can barely delegate what's going on in here, her head. And honestly, I know I can do so much better than Jenna, But, like, unless you're head of department, like, who cares?

1:02:33Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So now the guests walk in and they're like, oh, my God, Jonna's table is amazing. Wow. What a table. It's like, now that. And then in the galley, Ellie's like, oh, we've come such a long way, Ben. There's been a big journey of growth for me. And I appreciate you being a part of it. And he's like, oh, I'm your sous chef now, you little gumdrop.

1:03:01Ronnie Karam: glossititis. Really running out of words here. You know what?

1:03:07Ben Mandelker: Don't put the bean in the jar for that one. You get to keep the bean. Don't put the bean in the jar for that one. That was lovely.

1:03:14Ronnie Karam: All right, let's try this again, you little gobstopper glomerulus. Glomerulus? Glomerulus? It's a small tuft of blood capillaries and the kidney, all right? God.

1:03:28Ben Mandelker: Now you're just being funny, my little potato pelvis. See, I can do it too.

1:03:36Ben Mandelker: So, Ellie's like, Payne has tangled this carrot of a potential promotion, and I feel like if I do pull my weight, and if it is offered, I will take it. No kidding. So then the guests are like, can we dip our toes in the hot tub? Yeah, we'd really like to do that. And just make sure it's cold, because our beards are very sensitive. of like so at least it's like yeah absolutely so at least it turns what is the cold request about i've never heard that i know i guess it's just like really hot outside so like we want to want

1:04:08Ronnie Karam: cold water because it's just like laying in the pool kind of thing yeah i was wondering if it was like cold plunge but it has to be like super cold for that right very yeah super cold i think they

1:04:19Ben Mandelker: just wanted to be like pool temperature not like hot tub necessarily oh so at least it turns on the jacuzzi and then promptly walks away and um jenna uh is asking uh they're just sort of getting some stuff ready and everything and then meanwhile while at least he's downstairs the jacuzzi is overflowing like a strikinnona pasta pot cauldron if you will so they're like oh my god um the jacuzzi is about to overflow like what do we do what do we do oh my god it's gonna overflow guys it's gonna overflow and at least it's just downstairs like just chatting with jason you know

1:04:56Ronnie Karam: i'm a little stressed you know just trying to find bowls but i can't find any bowls so i'm looking for bowls he's like well don't get stressed mate god meanwhile overflowing and daisy walks by and like oh my god daisy it's overflowing he's like oh god damn radio radio deck deck daisy deck deck daisy the jacuzzi is about to overflow and alicia's like oh my god fuck me i turned it on she runs up there what were you saying about deserving a second stew position i know exactly

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