#3440 Next Gen NYC S2E02 Part Two: Letting Things Slide

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2:45Ben Mandelker: What happens when there's so much that crappens?

3:15Ben Mandelker: it's great um so uh georgia and prez are they're walking along and she has a big announcement she's like oh my god i slept from like 10 30 to 10 30 like i literally like bleached my arms and then like went uptown which by the way i didn't fully catch the bleaching of the arms is that the arm hair i think so tough unless you just tough tough we'll want to just is this the closest we're gonna get to like a clean hand from georgia is that she's gonna stick her entire arm into a bucket of bleach yeah i don't i don't wash my hands i just bleach them okay um but then but then i love the conversation between ava and georgia where georgia goes prez is my new boyfriend and he's a completely different like ball game and it was like but isn't he in crypto he is crypto adjacent he is not he is not in crypto he's crypto adjacent i think crypto adjacent is hilarious yeah i i cracked up when you said crypto adjacent i was like that's i think i don't know if i want to even be adjacent to that no i want to be out of crypto stadium in a different town and across a different border away far far away and so george explains um yeah he's like building like a betting platform and it's opinion based so they run a poll every day like is mom donnie's wife hot like yes or no like you're kind of like betting on what you think the majority of the opinion is and they get like a lot of funding from like crypto places because they used to be kind of in crypto so it's like okay it's a crypto fueled business that definitely will not be at risk when the crypto market which is famously volatile tanks the next time right and it's only a place where you can bet on stupid things like the attractive level of a government official and then we can have people spend their money most likely from crypto into a stupid betting website.

5:12Oh yeah, crypto adjacent. That sounds great. I'm happy for you, girl.

5:15Ben Mandelker: By the way, any thoughts on is Mom Donnie's wife hot? Do you want to bet? Do you want to place a bet on it? It's like, hey, why are you paying for dinner? Why are you paying for dinner? Oh, I won this bet about whether or not Mom Donnie's wife was hot. She is. It turns out she is. next I've got I've got$300 riding on Joanne Wally Kilmer so and I'm paying 500 bucks for Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's if they're serving salmon or beef I wrote in halibut I don't know I'm just being wild it could yield a big return yeah I do wonder what today's I wish I knew what the what the what the app was because I would love to see what today's quiz was or is um so Georgia and Prez they're now going to a high tea date um and they're sitting at this place one of these like tea places that's like over the top and kind of like fancy or whatever and Georgia is they're deciding between I guess a chair and a couch and um I only bring this up because I just think it's funny like Georgia navigating between furniture like pieces of furniture that she wants to sit on and i think it's amazing that prez goes whichever one you you don't want he's so afraid he's afraid of her in a way that i find to be weirdly romantic i know um georgia tells us that prez and i are one week apart same year one week apart born in the same city he's a new yorker which i think is like very important for me and she asked if he went to manor school growing up and And he's like, no, did you go to manner school growing up?

6:53She's like, clearly not.

6:56Ben Mandelker: It's funny. There's this poll I was just seeing this morning that was like, are people who went to manner school hot or not? I bet$200. And of course I voted. Yeah. So I guess that means I'm not hot. Actually. I just realized, um, she didn't go to manner school. She's not hot. You're right. but then when Prez when Georgia's like I didn't go to a manor school I raw dog life and then it goes to a shot last year of Georgia touching the bottom of a shoe and then saying okay first of all being a little bit of a slob is kind of cool and then she's like yeah that's why we're so perfect you don't wash your hands I don't wash my hands I just bleach them Yeah, I just, I basically sterilized them over an open flame for about 30 seconds.

7:51Ben Mandelker: And Prez is like, yeah, I don't wash my hands as much as I used to. And she goes, because of me? He goes, yeah. She goes, aw. Yeah, then they touch their dirty hands together. It's going to be so sweet when they both go to the hospital for dysentery. I know. People with dysentery, hot or not, vote here. This is my dysentery body. um so now we go to ava and her manager andrew that are just walking along and um ava's like oh my god i think somebody just threw up behind us it's like that's very new york which it is i love new york so chic you can just hear someone vomit behind you i'm just finishing lena dunham's book and did you see the uh there's like a thing about on oh no who's the famous vogue photographer um the the the photographer uh and um apparently melina dunham was shooting a photo shoot for on the brooklyn bridge someone jumped off the bridge behind her so i'm just picturing like them so new york it's like the darkest stuff ever jesus wow like was it caught on camera because that would have been a shot they say like if a stunt man dies while you're filming a movie like you should use that shot because it's like they died in vain you know wow that's really beautiful I love how much we can really take the value of the shot over I just think this is all so dark sided it's all so dark you know this is what happens when you introduce Lena Dunham into a recap of next-gen New York City.

9:40Ben Mandelker: Lena Dunham, hot or not, vote here. So anyway, Ava's getting ready because she and Riley and Amira are going to be doing an Urban Outfitters holiday campaign. This could be like a holiday party before Halloween. That's very exciting. And they're going to get ready for this big party. And Ava is saying how Amira has everything figured out because Amira has like a car and she has an apartment. Amira is also paying$16 ,000, for her apartment, which is crazy. Insane. Legitimately crazy. And it gets me worried because I know she's doing well with social media, but I worried like, are you doing that?

10:17Ben Mandelker: I mean, can you earn that much money on social media? I guess you can. $16 ,000. You can. My husband works in influencer marketing and I know that the big ones make a ton, but I don't think, I mean,$16 ,000 a month feels like like 0.1 of earners and it's hard to sustain that but go off amir i mean she's clearly killing it but it does not sound fun her days sound horrible i know and we see right away we go to amir recording um one of her videos and she goes you guys i just got home from the gym and i'm about to have a protein shake i want to talk about it with you

11:01color me intrigued i wanted to talk to you about my protein shake and then she says a typical day in my life is crazy like i genuinely start most of my days at 5 a.m and i start filming all of my content mostly about protein and then you see her go from work events to the dinners to then repeating it all the next day i'm like i know a lot of kids these days want to be influencers but does that sound fun like talk there's i know she has this whole scene about her work-life balance but that sounds like burnout central i know you know what i need to hold on one second we need

11:40Ben Mandelker: to pause this for one second because um ava is about to tell me about her protein shake so give me about 30 seconds i need to find out about it and we'll come back to the podcast okay do that you guys want to find out about my protein shake okay here we go let's go live I do think it actually sounds really grueling because every now and then I'm like, you know what? I've got a little bit of a following. I'm going to raise my social media profile. I'm going to do some more influence-y things. I'm going to post a story every day where I'm going to talk. I'm going to show a little bit of my life every single day.

12:13And I literally never do it because sometimes the idea of just like getting up and like recording something.

12:20Ben Mandelker: I'm like, I just, I don't know. I don't know if I'm ready to. it's hard enough to live life and then to like have to capture every other moment and then rewatch every other moment and then put a caption over it and then click post and then keep living your life and then capture it and then do it again day after day after day after day groundhog day central girl it's hard like i'm trying to build a name for myself and food and board gaming on the side and like you really just have to throw yourself out you have to like really be so shameless be like guys check it out here's some salmon this is how you cut it okay like and subscribe this is called a knife okay i love to get them you can get them anywhere you know and then you're like it is and unfortunately the reason why we are not crazy people is because we do have some shame and yeah it's hard to break free yeah we now go over to riley who we haven't seen all season she finally returns to the show an episode and a half into the new season and she's talking about how she does not really text in the group chat that much so she's like yeah I mean the group text went off yesterday and I put down my phone for five seconds there was like 20 messages I was like wow I cannot believe Riley being as chatty as she always is does not contribute a lot to the group text and then she's like people just started liking it and I was like what is even going on and I'm like I can't hear you um and then we see the full text exchange and it's like honestly it does sound like a nightmare if i'm being honest yeah it's a love island text exchange as someone who's in an active love island text group when those episodes are airing those text messages fly fast and furious yeah yeah um but uh riley's whole thing is that like she took a year off after school by the way i feel So like after you graduate, if you take a year off after you graduate, that's just, that's just having a, that's just a year in your life.

14:20Ben Mandelker: You don't, you're not taking it. If you're not like enrolled in something, you're not taking it off and you don't have a job. You're not taking it off from anything. That's vacation. That's just you living your life without having a job. That's a year long vacation. But the good news for her is that she is, even though she wants to be a DJ, she's also interested in becoming an entertainment attorney. so she is going to apply to law school at columbia um which is very impressive and um that's that's the direction that she wants to take her her life these days which is exciting which i actually really appreciated this next scene where brooks and riley are talking on the phone because again it surprises me when there's like well-adjusted children of housewives because brooks being honest with like my brand i'm like i'm like really struggling with my brand and i feel like you have to be patient because like it doesn't all happen overnight and then riley's saying exactly like you have to be patient our parents are doing the best that they ever have like right now and they're like 30 years older than us which is actually really good advice like i all i talk about my podcast a bunch about how like i worry that my career is not where it's supposed to be or i like compare myself but like these kids are right their parents have been hustling for a very long time and are super rich and obnoxious now but they were always obnoxious but not always rich and it takes a while to to build this shit so i i give brooks respect for that like you gotta deal with the ebbs and flows yeah and riley yeah and riley also having that perspective uh instead of being a spoiled brat is great you know because they know that they need to hustle and they have to continue to hustle or be uh just volunteer at some like dog and cat shelters and get an espresso machine as long as you're posting something that's all that matters post post tell us about your protein shake yeah um so uh now uh now we have a scene of amira going out to dinner with her mom and actually it was both of her parents it's a very nice scene uh they they they meet up and basically uh she talks about how her parents they when they they got divorced but now they're like friends with each other and they have a really nice relationship and she's talking to them about having a work-life balance issue and she works really hard and just hard because a lot of her friends like don't get it they don't understand that sometimes you have to wake up and tell people about your protein shake in the morning okay and that's effort um but her parents are like so lovely and supportive of her i really like i really really appreciate this they're just they're very kind and and nice people um but there's also nothing terribly funny that happens here it's just like no but my my thought from this was even though they don't talk about how amira is trans i think that's actually cool if they don't and that she is like kind of the head in charge i think it's so refreshing to have amira as just like a boss bitch with parents who are like clearly loving her and supportive of her i'm like god this is so nice to see versus all the other shit that is going on in the world.

17:29And for Amira to be just a total boss with nice parents, and she happens to be trans, I think is incredible.

17:37Ben Mandelker: That's not the headline. That's the best part. It's not the headline. Exactly, exactly. And it never has been. It's just like they just accept her exactly for who she is and support her and love her regardless. And that's really the template of how it should be for everyone. 100%. um and and one thing that amira is saying is that it's really hard for her in the city or it had been hard for her to get to where she is because her last name despain doesn't have any sort of like weight in the city like it has it has no heft it doesn't mean anything to anyone however we then go over to eva who is uh she's like i have a famous last name and i can go she is she's having pizza and she's like you know living in the shadow of your family and having to deal with the reputation while also trying to make a reputation of your own and build your own brand and have a slice of pizza at the same time it just sucks so i'm just really out here hustling as evidenced by me sitting here having a slice of pizza i just want that independence i want my apartment i want to be like amira the grass is always greener eric it's like i was just thinking that like clearly your name is nothing if you don't have it doesn't matter if you got a big name you got to have the goddamn hustle and the drive and yeah i think ava might have it but if she wants a 16 000 apartment like amira then you got to be posting about that protein shake every other hour girly i don't want to tell you what you got to do with your life but it rhymes with With gloating...

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21:59Ben Mandelker: so uh but ava's like you know it's it's really hard having a famous last name but i want i want to i want to i want to make a name i want to get out there i want to i want to be independent i want to work hard and do what i need to do and georgia's like by the way i have an apartment for you she's like does that have a doorman it's like um do you need a doorman she's like yeah i need a doorman it's like before i could become independent like amira i first need to start at a certain level so i need a doorman please i need to feel safe she's like well he owns like a restaurant down below which is like a really good sushi restaurant and he would give you free dinner and stuff so and she's like well okay free sushi safety which of course the the fancy sushi restaurant is probably in the most dangerous part of town you would be in so much danger yeah i am that's you have to weigh between a dragon roll and a life of crime i think you're okay yeah i think i'm taking the dragon roll also by the way i don't believe for one second that you're always gonna be fed free sushi i think you get one meal maybe like once every nine months and you have to come in crying and look like you're in a rom-com and just like a car like a taxi just drove by in a puddle and splashed you yeah girl we're in a recession dragon roll that that fresh sushi ain't cheap you'll get one dragon roll per every presidency yeah you're on a dragon roll stipend it's not happening every single time um so now georgia meets up with her gay cooper um which we love a gay friend right yeah but poor cooper has to hear her monologue for an hour and it just keeps cutting to cooper going right right right which he was ready to have a whole scene he had like a little he was wearing like a little like marching band kind of jacket or like ring master like it had like the little tassels all those tassels yeah he comes in a full look meanwhile says a half of a syllable i know um so george is like guess what cooper i have tea she's actually moving out of her boyfriend's apartment and he's like oh yeah well i have some news about my boyfriend anyway so it kind of makes sense actually because like i made the mistake of moving in with a partner as we all know it well my boyfriend told me he doesn't want it and also like the relationship i was like in like i think last year everyone it's just like insane it's just like but like it's just crazy so i i think that we're gonna be going on a break anyway there's like free sushi and i told her like you can get free sushi i know you won't be safe but you get free sushi am i right anyway great seeing you oh i'm glad we had this chat uh we've all we've all had a georgia in our life and uh georgia is the friend that people say behind her back she's really great in small doses and i you know love her every now and again i know i know she really is or she uh her tagline could be but enough about me how are you into the conversation 100 percent um but she is going on and on about omar and uh talking about how omar stole her business idea and is like cozying up to charlie and she's just like not happy about it whatsoever and then meanwhile we see charlie um and shy are meeting up to go out to drinks or something like that and charlie uh just you know this uh street gets five out of five stars from charlie who says this is a cool ass street great choice shy which i think it's um uh by the south street it's like lower manhattan i used to be a tour guide and i would walk people stone street i would walk people down this street and it is actually quite cute and there's some great little eateries there so you know what it was a good choice shy's great he picks the best streets stone street i mean what else is it related to eric eric stone street um yeah i think he um is uh he actually founded it in um 17 yeah he's he's a witch he's been around all this time um so lots more text messages come through there's it's such a very dense show because there's so much information that we have to weed through uh but but uh we see shy and he's talking about how um he says georgia posted the most blurry photo of her kissing some guy it's the most georgia post i've ever seen and charlie's like god bless her when she's like 45 50 she's for sure gonna be one of those like schizo like energy healer type ladies which i think is so mean uh but of course cut to me being like she's a character actress he's just saying it in a mean straight way i think it's mean too because i think it's gonna happen when she's 35.

26:51Ben Mandelker: so um charlie charlie's saying he's like chill with georgia but like i don't know there's all this stuff with omar it's like i don't know i don't see why it's that emotionally charged and then georgia's telling cooper she's like you know i love charlie i actually loved him and i cared about him and i have seen him in like moments be caring like like he let me sleep on his couch for like a month and that is not nothing but then like it's like you have like 7 ,000 other things that he did that are like so unacceptable like I had clients two clients in the past couple months say our legal team is worried about hiring you because you have associations with Charlie's Accord also we just are not sure about you as a person but then she does say he's like affecting my business like nothing's like fallen through yet but I'm doing all these events to make money to pay rent it's very expensive to live here i don't have parents who are like here's a quarter of a million dollars go have fun which in a way i do sort of like the honesty of these people talking about who has the famous parents with money and who doesn't because that is a quintessential part of living in new york is who here actually has to pay their rent versus who here has parents doing it yeah exactly so then um shy is telling charlie a story that he went to georgia had a bowling party presumably to drum up hype for a club club and uh he's like no i always go to everything georgia puts on and i had a brand launch party and then last minute georgia was like oh my god i'm not feeling well but then she posted on her stories that night that she was out with friends which tough not cool that's tough not cool and then charlie does his one of his isms that's whack it's like okay i'm gonna slide in did she slide did she slide out of that plans yeah man that's whack now it's like okay now that's fresh prince of bel-air but go off king yeah shy um we got an update on what he does in his life because we never learned last year because he was on for five seconds and he uh he has started a clothing brand uh and he's like my first collection was like 30 shirts it's like all one of a kind it's all like upcycled material and like from like flea markets and like my old grandma's like hoarding stuff and i'm like taking off their hands so if your grandma has any old linens like send her my way like give me give her my number you know i'm saying i want to call y 'all's grandmas you got a grandma i'll i'll hit up your grandma i'll slide did you like his shirts eric ultimately i did what i was more questioning of is the business model of oh so you're just reselling clothes oh so it's a thrift store well is he reshaping the linens into new shirts he's saying upcycling which like it's you know what again shy is such an earnest sweet soul that I hope that I can you know do nothing but support his brand but for him to say we only have 30 pieces so it's like okay so you bought 30 shirts and then you try to sell this 30 shirts like i do question sort of what is going on behind the scenes with this brand but um i only cheer for our shy and you know that you know that yeah we we love our shy and actually charlie does have um they do they make some jokes about like yeah he's gonna start like releasing some shirts that are only black and have diamonds on them and that way hudson will buy them and they're like yeah charlie goes dude that's the move make your clothing band specifically curated for hudson's taste and they're laughing as if like brands don't already do this right i'm like it's it's called that and the joke is that they're like how can we best fuck over our rich friend hudson yeah i know exactly how can we extract as much money from hudson as possible you know at least they're all being honest with themselves yeah um let's move on to a new day it's a new day it's a new text chat there's going to be a part the The party is tonight, the holiday party.

30:53Ben Mandelker: Oh, yeah. I was thinking of the party. There's a holiday party, and they're all excited. Brooks and Liam are on FaceTime, and Liam is like, hey, man, have fun tonight. Let me know if there's any tea that I miss. And Brooks is like, I'll fill you in on how it goes. Wish you were coming. I mean, I'm working through some challenges right now with my brand and stuff, so it's hard. And Brooks is saying how he has a resort collection that he's dropping, and it was supposed to drop in June but now it's October and it hasn't really dropped and if anything it's sort of wound up in Texas and he needs to be in New York and doesn't his dad do this stuff we're set to help him out yeah I'm sure Seth is doing a lot of heavy lifting but I have to say this conversation where Liam's like trying to brainstorm how they can do it together is speaking to my 8th grade self so deeply to what we talked about at the top i'm like this is why liam has me in his little clutches it's because he wants to help his gay friends resort line and they're gonna rent a truck from texas and drive it to new york and do you know like when you're there and you're um you know when you basically when you do have like like the the star of when you have like nathan detroit and he is saying to you as ensemble member 13 in sit down you're rocking the boat hey you i'll drive with you from texas to new york you're like oh my god oh my god it's happening it's happening this is the first time ensemble member number 13 has ever been given so much responsibility as sitting up in front with nathan detroit this is i won't let you down like you it's it's so chosen it's you know no one's gonna rain on my parade it's just so it's so huge for brooks yeah i mean it's good old and reliable and then brooks goes sounds like fire school is going really well you're like a modern day hannah montana what this pierce a big hole in uh the image that liam was creating for himself liam is like seeing himself as like yeah i'm a volunteer firefighters like you're like hannah montana he's like oh yeah i guess i am sure you're right kind of best of both worlds sure i see where you're picking up what you're putting down i well i wasn't i mean part in the usa i guess but hop off the plane at lake george international for it I would say Jay-Z's on the radio, but there's no reception.

33:32Ben Mandelker: Um, so, so yeah, Liam is, uh, missing this party because he is learning how to be a volunteer firefighter in Lake George. And he's also talking about, he's like, Hey, you ever hear a coyote cry? He's like, what? No. It's like, yeah, it's terrifying. It's like, but I like the escape up here. I have to go up here and think about everything I regret up here. Listen to Coyotes crying. And then Brooks goes, purge yourself of it. Such a theater gaze just trying to yes and, whatever the hell the straight guy is talking about. I don't know what this guy is talking about. I also think anytime you mention Coyotes, you're kind of entering fuckboy territory.

34:15Ben Mandelker: I think it's just like Coyotes are full on. Any discussion of Coyotes is fuckboy, right? oh yeah it's a classic trope of where you have a wolf on your shirt too and it's like oh he's gonna ruin me okay yeah so um georgia is having issues with shy it turns out because shy is friends with charlie and she didn't she doesn't really like that she doesn't like shy being friends with charlie because she has a beef with charlie so we're learning that there's a burgeoning issue on that front and then um riley is riley is talking about her relationship with shy she she sees shy as like a cute little brother, you know?

34:53Ben Mandelker: Um, and shy tells her, she's like, I mean, I don't, I don't want to sound mean, but like, I didn't know who you were last year. Like, I didn't like know who your mom was. And like, I've just never seen the show. I've never watched reality TV. I only watched survivor. She's like, yeah, clearly. Um, I actually do believe shy. Okay. Do you not? I, you know what? I do believe it, but I still sometimes find it crazy that there's a world where people don't watch reality tv oh i know i know that it is but you're a little you're a little inside of it i would say you're a little i guess so i don't watch a lot of scripted so i'm like i'm like the inverse i'm like what yeah and some people only watch love island and nothing else like sort of wild how many different people different journeys people take but if i i i think shy doesn't watch housewives he might be lying about not knowing who candy is how could you not know candy i mean she's an institution yeah you have to know who candy is um so uh there's a lot of texts going around flying around furiously diagonal wipes happening left and right it's like triangles on the screen text messages lots of stimulation and ariana starts talking about how hudson's gravitating towards charlie and she does not like it she says i assume charlie's gonna be at the urban event tonight but like i'm sure amira invited him and if he is like we're definitely having a conversation so um now amira is getting ready and she's basically saying you know i think that charlie's misunderstood and the producers want me to invite him to the party so i'm just gonna say that i feel bad for him and he's gonna come to the party tonight and then charlie has actually some self-awareness where he's like oh this friend group i'm no stranger to walking into a room and having someone be upset with me or you know me be the focus of the drama like i don't have any issues with anybody uh i think one or two people might be uncomfortable like my biggest fan at the moment the fact that i'm in headlines you know associated with the things i think that people might be uncomfortable with me being there with whatever like i get it the guy was tortured and i was there okay we get it it's like big deal i mean how many of us have been to parties where there's been someone strapped to a bed up top being electrocuted by the ends of a table lamp wire no big whoop we block mailed him out of Italy what's the big fucking deal so now we go to this event and they're all saying hi and everything and Ava is posing with the box of pizza and she's saying yes pizza and then Brooks this is one of my favorites is something on fire Ava goes I thought it was my hair because that happened to me once but it's not no no no no it's like you're on fire oh my god that was a good pickup line Brooks and then when he goes yeah no but literally it smells like fire it wasn't a pickup line it does smell like flame but then he very smartly gassed her up for a second and then actually asked about the literal issue of flame you are like hot like fire but also a fire you're not on fire but there may be a fire in the vicinity you look good and should i call 9-1-1 should i should i call liam he knows how to handle this um liam's like i'll be there as soon as possible just give me eight hours there's traffic on the taconic i'll be here at 2 30 in the morning so i think we're okay um very exciting time because now we meet yet another new cast member this is rowan daughter of shields tell me i love her so much ben tell me i just think that when your mom is brooke shields and then you end up being such a funny character actress as her daughter i think i feel so lucky to see her on our screens like she is everything i think she is a star from the jump she's she showed up on screen yeah and she's like a lot goofier than i'd expect the spawn of Brooke Shields to be.

39:04Ben Mandelker: I have no shade against Brooke Shields. I love Brooke Shields. You know, Suddenly Susan, other things that she does. But like Rowan to be such a goofy rom-com girl whose umbrella gets inverted by the wind type. Very happy. It's almost like a little Emma Stone-ian, would you say? Yeah, I was just about to say. I was just about to say. So likable. Yeah. so uh she she bursts onto the scene and the first thing that she does is bite into an undercooked chicken nugget and there's there's just like a wave of concern of like oh my god it's undercooked you were literally about to die you just got on the show and you were literally going to die on the show so quickly so she spits it out and everything and um rowan uh she starts telling us about you know her life and everything and she says you know i grew up different than most and I recognize it, but it was never like Brooke Shields is my mom.

40:04Ben Mandelker: It was more like my mom is Brooke Shields. Does that make sense? Which, you know, at first glance, it doesn't. But then you digest it for a second and you understand that she is Emma Stonian and you realize it does make sense. She's saying that it's not that she woke up every day and said, oh my God, my mom is Brooke Shields. She woke up and said, my mom is my mom who happens to be Brooke Shields. And that's why Rowan is so normal is because her mom never weaponized her fame over her children that's exactly right um so Georgia Georgia loves Rowan she's like you're you look beautiful the coat is great the coat is a good add-on and you know it's so funny I just answered a poll today about do coats make you look hot and the answer is yes did you know that mom Donnie's wife wears a coat and she actually was voted hot as well so you're in good company girl bad news though they did say that brook shields is no longer hot which is so mean i was like what that's a crazy thing to say and i know i shouldn't have told you that but that i had to be honest with you because we're friends and i you're my boyfriend used to not summer with you but like you know him oh wait a second i just looked it up brook shields is still hot they say that brooks as in the body of water is not are not hot streams are hot Sorry, sorry, sorry.

41:25Brooks, the water is hot, but your jacket is not hot. I'm so sorry I read it wrong.

41:31Ben Mandelker: Sorry, the polls are changing minute by minute. It's a really intense world that we live in. Yeah, crypto is really volatile. Oh, shit. I wasn't supposed to say that. Oh, my God. Have you had Brooks coin yet? It's so good. What about my coin? No, not you. It's Body of Water Brooks, not you, Brooks. Okay. My business is really suffering okay um so rowan says that like she's like being friends with like ariana and being friends with georgia is just like the difference in like night and day because like ariana is like very type a and i would say georgia is like type y and georgia was just like telling me that prez like a little upset like because i keep on i keep eating in his i guess georgia's eating in his bed and she keeps eating chips in his bed and like filling the bed with potato chips yeah like um ariana washes her hands and uh georgia um just came down with um the black plague georgia is like she said she said she told me recently that she voted that bubonic plague is hot and i didn't really know what that meant until she actually got it and um um she got it from the chips in her bed because they were actually pre-war the chips were from the pre-war apartment

42:51Ben Mandelker: I don't love that George is eating lots of potato chips in the bed and getting little chip fragments all over the sheets. I hate it so much. It's actually terrible. No. Terrible. And then what? You just brush it off. I have such self-diagnosed OCD about washing hands that I love George's quirkiness, but I cannot. Cosign living in New York City and not washing your hands. Yeah. Yeah. And like touching the bottom of that shoe, I have a new thing, which is about shoelaces. And, um, I think we spoke, I think sometimes we forget how disgusting shoelaces are because those shoelaces, they touch everything and they soak there.

43:37Ben Mandelker: They soak in a way that souls don't soak. And so like, we may be careful about like not touching the bottom of our shoes, But when we're tying and untying our shoes, we are touching those shoelaces that we're marinating in whatever was in the bathroom, whatever was on the sidewalk, whatever was on that sticky floor. And it's terrible. I agree. And I wash my hands as like too many times. I'm probably overwashing, but I prefer that. You have to wash because you have to compensate for Georgia. Like if one person is not washing, then the balance of life is that someone has to wash twice. Well, and like Lisa Rinna wiping down all of her hotel rooms.

44:17Like, I get it. I get it. Yeah.

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45:53Ben Mandelker: So Charlie comes in and Georgia is not looking at him and he noticed he clocked this and he's like, it's so ridiculous. It's so dramatic. And he's also upset because he thought this was somehow going to be like a sit down formal dinner. I don't know why an urban outfitter pre-Halloween holiday launch party speaks to a tasting menu but that's what he thought and he's just walking around like no one wants to talk to him or look at him and he's kind of feeling sad Charlie's like a very sad billionaire child right now sad when you think about it poor Charlie I'm sure he will struggle to find the next person to torture you know yeah so hope loft yeah so brooks is um saying how like amira has basically given charlie an olive branch he's like um like or like not like an olive branch but like what's like an arm like i don't know like a finger like a life float like something like that's like you know gen z i am a little conservative gen z for the their frame of reference for like phrases and sayings yes exactly so then uh charlie now first he tries to talk to riley and riley's like please don't hug me please don't touch me please don't talk to me and charlie's like okay fine all right well i guess this isn't gonna work out so riley basically shoes him away and then then charlie is like trying to talk after riley he's like he then sees like georgia across the way he's like can we talk she's like no we're still not talking no no nothing for me got by get out of here don't need you here thank you um i also like by the way when riley said something about like you know what this is like not my circus not my monkeys i just don't even care anymore and shy was like did you say not my turkey not my turkey not my thanksgiving yeah no i'm i fear for these gen z kids too now because and then he goes oh wait i just invented that that's amazing it's like well first of all you overheard someone you thought say that so you did not invent that and second of all it's actually not a good saying not my turkey not my thanksgiving rolls off the tongue shy it's very wordy shy that's not an upcycled phrase um so uh then meanwhile over with gia and amira and brooks and rowan and riley gia's like guys did you hear about my drama a little bit

48:26Ben Mandelker: right i was like i heard something about it it sounded boring is it as boring as it sounds she was like yeah i mean it was about my mom on following ava brooks like oh god yeah this again as if we didn't sit through all of last season when brooks belabored charlie saying something to chloe over text about like can't wait to have you come over to my place without your brother or something like that well they they do love to it's it's me the joke's on me by saying i love how fast they move past that fight and now g is at the end of this episode bringing back up like teresa unfollowing ava dash i know and rowan's trying to follow and she just can't i think she's still like i think her mind is still thinking about whether or not she's gonna die from her undercooked chicken nugget oh which i would be there too but i did love how brooks like checks in with rowan where he's like um are you following rowan and then she's like oh yeah and she does a full lot see a full bit about uh yeah totally i absolutely gotta no i'm like this sophie b is really good uh and then all of a sudden hook walks in which hook talk about the name hook i mean wow this guy i mean he is like the name hook is very exciting it is but then the fact that his birth name is tyler uh i find that to be really exciting charlie's like so i was friends with ava and tyler or a hook and it's like clearly hook told them before the show i'm going by hook now okay don't call me tyler my name's not tyler he's like i did not go to civil friends academy okay my name is hook and i'm from the streets my name is hook and i am a conceptual journalist what like wait a second but didn't you go to cornell didn't you like didn't you like major in hotel hotel management and he's like hotel management he's like no no no my name's hook i was raised in a phone booth and i'm tough uh i do graffiti i am uh living in red hook okay uh i uh i am i'm i'm up the streets i i'm i'm pretty gritty i also am a huge fan of self check-in it's like ah you did do hotel management no i mean i'd say like checking yourself like checking yourself yeah don't check me boo you know who gone check me boo I'm losing it Ben I'm losing it too because I forgot that this episode was supersized and it's like it's an episode that is not ending as I when I sat there I watched I thought I love this show but when you go through it you're like wow it's it never ends it's just well like you said the editing it's like a Shakespearean play uh and now it's just like one little vignette after another the next vignette is um rowan uh going up to shy and saying do you like my do you like this jacket it's like a real it's real polar bear and he goes no it's not check yeah check the tag check the tag and then he goes that's not a real polar bear it's zara which incredible incredible he's like holding out the idea that it could have been polar bear he's like this is manhattan this is next gen nyc i mean someone might be wearing real polar bear to the function but then shy is such shy is me when i was 19 just like always hopeful that he would fall in love because he's like you know this is my first time meeting rowan and uh a plus i think i could see myself with brook shield's daughter i never I never knew who she was I well I did see the Addams family on Broadway and I think she might have been in that but uh yeah no I don't know I remember seeing Grease sometime in the mid 90s and I'm pretty sure I saw her there but uh I don't know yeah no I think there was a maybe I don't know like a documentary about her but uh I don't watch that kind of stuff I don't know I have to make sure that this family is a family I want to be associated with because if they're down to hunt polar bear i don't know about that but anyways uh yeah a plus rowan i'd like to date her um oh and then i do like their little cute bit where shy goes oh rowan i think you're i think you lost some of your coat and there was the little white fluff on the ground and then rowan yes and did that shit and she did and then of course shy goes so a boyfriend girlfriend and i think rowan handled it beautifully four years four years and then shy that's a long time puts me right out of the running no i'm kidding and then rowan as as of right now yeah which i do yeah i do wonder that's gonna bite her in the ass because i think she was just trying to be yes andy bitsy bootsy girl but when you're on camera on a show about relationships that you know rowan's boyfriend of four years might not love that she said on camera as of right now yeah she was trying to be bitsy boopy but it was more like bitsy oopsie exactly i agree and i did yeah um so ariana is a bunch of the kids basically all the all the non-straight men have gathered and they're like who's inviting charlie to these parties what is going on here why is he here and georgia's like i mean it's like crazy it's like it's like the city has like eight million people and like why does like hudson have to hang out with charlie or why does omar have to hang out with charlie like what is amira is amira the one who's bringing charlie around this is all amira's fault because they're trying to like also manufacture a feud between amira and georgia over a fight from last year about maybe ozempic but maybe amira's boyfriend so um they're all kind of like like why do we we have this like great perfect like girls and gays circle here why are we ruining it with charlie this could be the perfect show why is he here which i did like the sort of cut to amira like taking her selfies and being fabulous i'm like that is a good uh little seed for future drama which is why these producers know what they're doing yeah exactly so then uh this is when georgia spots her boyfriend talking prez is talking to charlie and she's like get over here get over here don't you dare don't you dare talk to him and georgia goes prez is like this cute like sparkling unbothered ball of light and you have charlie's just like prickly like dark like like i don't know i i lost the poetry but he fucking sucks and i do understand your point ben that he that she would not want prez around charlie for very real reasons but i don't know something tells me that prez is so afraid of georgia that he's not going to do anything to to hurt that well the other thing is what value does prez have is he of a of a famous family does his family have money because if he has no money then she does not she has nothing to worry about like if he offers no value to charlie like charlie will discard him immediately actually if anything charlie will be friends with prez only to annoy georgia oh right right right right right which is not beneath charlie but prez allegedly his family was hanging out with the brooke shields his family so oh that's right so there's got to be some status there yeah unless his like family yep maybe his family uh maybe his like dad was on suddenly susan and that's the connection I would love that that lore the suddenly Susan lore would be just so excellent so there's like a little speech about like welcome to our brand thanks Ava does a whole thing of like friends are the chosen family and holidays are for family so we're happy to be spending it with all of our friends and if you know of a good place that has a doorman just let me know cause family yay and now they're done with this party and now they're outside and um and charlie's still trying to talk with everyone everyone's just like gross charlie and so uh charlie winds up winds up with like charlie and ariana talking and for all that for all of ariana's bluster about why charlie is the worst in the world she has this like sort of lengthy conversation with him that is very friendly did you notice smiles i did but i couldn't tell if I just have so much respect for Ariana that I'm like I think Charlie was trying to work his charm over her but she was actually trying to play into it by just being like yeah I'm gonna yes and you a bit but just don't fuck up my ex-boyfriend who I still actually love like I kind of think Ariana still had the power in that scene yeah I feel like they're worried that Hudson's gonna get on hard drugs or something which I think is like a legitimate fear like Charlie is the type to be like hey bro you ever try this and then it's like an after school special but um what happens i because i think because all hudson wants is to feel not to get too therapy about it but all hudson wants to feel is like valued and cool and accepted and then i bet ariana sees that he could become you know charlie's next colleague and torturing someone yeah which would be not not great no good uh would be a very bad image for the chicken empire of his family so uh they had this whole talk and then um everyone's everyone's like watching around the corner like ew why is she talking to him it's gross brooks is like i can't i can't i can't and then like charlie comes over and brooks just like runs away he runs around the corners and ariana the episode sort of draws to an end amazingly you never thought it was going to happen but ariana is basically like i believe that there is 100 two sides of charlie his ego is so big but he's just like and he's like a prick but there's like a side of charlie that shows you his heart a little bit and like cares like because like somewhere deep deep deep deep down he's like a good guy and we see him turn on his electric water kettle and make himself some tea and look out over new york city and then be like ow i burned myself on this and i burned the out of my mouth trying to sip this too you're even trying to sound gen z about your tea sipping i know because the producers were like so do you have any tea charlie he's like fine and he like actually makes himself some tea it's like that wasn't what we meant how he's like i tried to slide into this cuppa and got burned up bug one of my least favorite words cuppa um thank you eric for sitting for for participating in this lengthy next gen recap.

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