#3442 (REWIND) S14E23: Never Have I Ever

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2:12Ben Mandelker: Oh, I mean, watch what crap happens. Who cares what happens when there's so much that crap ends?

2:20Ronnie Karam: Hello, and welcome to Watch What Crap Ends, the podcast about all that crap we love to talk about on Yule Bravs. I'm Ronnie Karam. Merry Day After Christmas, everybody. That's Ben over there. Hi, Ben. Hi, what's up? Good to talk to you, hon.

2:35Ben Mandelker: It's been so long. I know. It's weird. Happy Boxing Day. What is Boxing Day? um apparently it's a british holiday where um you then bring gifts to friends

2:49Ronnie Karam: oh well i've heard that term a lot this year but i had never heard it before

2:53Ben Mandelker: yeah but i think that's what it is i mean i would like it because i haven't gotten any gifts i want to i'll i'm gonna take uh i'm gonna this is what happens when you're when you're a december birthday it's just everything's you know i got my birthday gifts and i'm very grateful for them and i'm very happy and that's just you know and i'll just i'm happy to sit on the sidelines here for the holiday season for the 41st time well you can find me ronnie over on

3:22Ronnie Karam: the rose pricks bachelor roast podcast and you can find ben writing and voicing and doing all that good stuff for the real housewares of kitchen island which is a really funny youtube cartoons go check it out and we are doing some live shows i'm gonna just go through the cities real quick here so everybody knows because this is our last show of 20 well it's the last 19 recording it's the last one of 2019 we will be releasing our uh berkshires episode that we did live um last month

3:52Ben Mandelker: or this month whatever whatever we're gonna release it in a couple days the not the berkshires but when we went to philadelphia and it was the episode where a real house was at beverly hills yes of taylor armstrong i was like it's an entirely different guys this is the night after christmas

4:07Ronnie Karam: okay i don't know what you expect from me but you're not going to get much thankfully i've i've led you to expect nothing so that's good i just gorged myself on indian food

4:17Ben Mandelker: and i'm and and just finished drinking like the last of my store-bought eggnog so i'm just coasting right into a food coma right now so this is like perfect good luck everyone good luck well here we are guys we're at the final episode of orange county season 14 the reunion part three it's been a great great reunion hilarious it continues to be hilarious it gets very emotional at the end of this hour but still overall like great great job with the reunion ladies of orange county great job

4:46Ronnie Karam: way to just bring vicky crumbling down i don't know that you can ever really bring her crumbling down but if vicky's last show if her last episode ends with her going fuck you fuck you to the cameras and slamming the door in their face i mean what a perfect ending for vicky yeah a

5:01Ben Mandelker: spectacular flame out for her for the original the og of the oc i mean she just was she just like it's like she found so many so many hills it's like she went to rome isn't rome the city that's like surrounded by seven hills she just found all the hills and just she died on all of them she's like i'm gonna find every any hill i can find i'm gonna die on it and they're like the most inconsequential hills. Yeah, and then she'd be like, I didn't die on a hill.

5:29Ronnie Karam: And then they would show a clip of her dying on a hill. It's like, I did not die on a hill!

5:33Ben Mandelker: It's like, you can't scream yourself out of dying on a hill.

5:36Ronnie Karam: Okay? You died on a hill.

5:38Ben Mandelker: Yeah, she's literally on a hill. She's like, I died in the valley. No, it's on a hill. It did. Hill. Hill.

5:45Ronnie Karam: So let's get it going. Reunion 3. Normally, we are not just inundated like this with reunion episodes of one Housewives show.

5:55Ben Mandelker: There was a time a few years ago when it was reunion time, they would have back-to-back nights of the reunion. They used to do that. Now they stretch them out, and so we've gotten used to that schedule. But having three reunion episodes in one week, not to mention the fact that I think there was no other reunion happening. We just felt like there was five other reunions. It's been intense. It's been intense for us.

6:21Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Very funly intense. Yeah. Yeah. Funly. It's a good word. Take it into 2020. Yeah, it's a new word. It was fun. New word for a new decade. So we open with Vicky yelling at Bronwyn still because I don't like kissing. I don't like nakedness. Do it off camera. 15 years I started this show. 15 years I started this show. And she's really just in Frank Oz Muppet territory at this point.

6:47Ben Mandelker: Yeah. She really has. She really has started to like really. Well, you know, that's a it's a very charged thing to say that, you know, given Vicky's background and what she's had to go through from Slade Smiley. But the truth is she really is like embracing that guttural like sound. Fifteen years, she's like, turn it down, Broderick. Turn it down, Broderick. Fifteen years ago I started this show. Do it off camera. Fifteen years I started. Fifteen years I started. Me start. Show me start. She's like turning into Louis Armstrong. What a wonderful franchise. What a terrible naked slut you are. I see.

7:31Degrading women.

7:33Ben Mandelker: Trashy ladies too. They're all damn brown women. And this is what I think of you. I don't want to see your boobs anymore, you stupid lesbian. What a stupid lady's kissing me.

7:48Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so, you know, making Vicky's blatant homophobia fun. Yeah. Jesus. So she's like, yeah, I don't like making this. I can't believe you. And Kelly's like, you should say the same thing to Tamara. She's like, I did. I did say it. I did say it to Tamara. I did. I did. I do it. I say it. I did it. 15 seconds, Brandon. 15 seconds you've been on this show. 15. I'm like, what is it? 15 years you started this show. 15 seconds you've been on this show. She just likes the number 15, you know? She does. You have to say, she's lasted a lot longer than 15 minutes. Because I was going to say, you know, your 15 minutes are up.

8:21Ronnie Karam: But it's been, you know, 15 years. So good for you. Andy Warhol said everybody would have 15 minutes of fame. Like every idiot in the world would just have 15 minutes of fame. And you have proven that idiots can have a lot longer time in the sun.

8:36Ben Mandelker: So congrats. Listen, you can cook a shitty meal. You can overcook a shitty meal for 15 minutes until it's open. Or you can overcook it for 15 years in a slow cooker. It's still going to turn out badly. And that's what Vicky sort of has turned into. a gloppy meal that's been around too long. But you know what? The best, though, is that she still lives in this world of delusion, this wonderful world of delusion. So much delusion that I think that they should keep her around because it's the sort of delusion that we dream of on these shows. So when she's yelling at Bronwyn, Bronwyn goes, you're not the boss of me.

9:11Ben Mandelker: And Vicky's like, oh, you're brand new to this show. Okay, we got kids watching it. I'm like, what? She's acting as if this aired right after Thanksgiving on ABC see with like john stamos and like like a like a projection of elsa from frozen this is the kids if kids are watching it there may be kids watching it but this is not a children's show okay this is not wholesome family entertainment by any stretch of the imagination yeah and they're not enjoying

9:36Ronnie Karam: it you know it's like they're watching it and they're terrified this is like nightmare inducing

9:40Ben Mandelker: for kids yeah like you you shoot scenes in an insurance company okay that's like i guarantee

9:47Ronnie Karam: you kids are not watching um so bronwyn's like i know my own kids watch and tamra said yeah she's sharing a life and he's like okay bronwyn okay bronwyn it's like you took your clothes off you know what you took your clothes off let's just elevate i lost two clients last month because of this two clients last month um and because of everything that bronwyn did how about you lost clients because of yourself thank god andy is there with the editors to show uh also who fires insurance people because they want a moral insurance company like that's probably just

10:26Ben Mandelker: what they told her because they felt bad about saying no you're a shitty insurance dealer so instead i'm just gonna say oh i'm not comfortable with the show i mean i'm surprised she's only lost two two clients over the years she makes it sound like she's never lost anyone because of the show So, I mean, anyone who's getting, you know, represented by Vicky, getting their insurance from Vicky in the first place, already you have to question their motives and their, like, judgment, just to begin with.

10:50Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And Andy reminds her, he's like, yeah, you flashed your tits on this show. She's like, I didn't do it on camera, Andy. I did not do it on camera. Andy, I did not do it on camera.

11:00Ben Mandelker: And then they show her on camera pulling down her job. And then Andy's like, you demonstrated how to give a blowjob. and she goes, it was a bachelorette party. And then they show her giving fellatio to a popsicle. And then Gina's like, you've gotten so wasted, you've pissed beds. And then we see that clip of her when she peed on the bed. It's like everyone was piling on. It's like, you once kicked over a newsstand. I did not kick over a newsstand! It's like cute unseen footage of Tammy Knickerbocker opening up a newsstand and Vicky knocking it over.

11:32Ronnie Karam: I did not do that. Okay, I peed on the bed. I'm sorry I peed on the bed. I'm sorry. I have to catch you.

11:37Ben Mandelker: you sold weapons of mass destruction I did not sell weapons of mass destruction it's like her was sitting on his end

11:44Ronnie Karam: so Andy's like oh Vicky I've got news for you the show has never changed okay it's always been trash I don't know where you've been but this show started as trash and it will die as trash do you understand me and so Bronwyn starts her listen I've had kids in my I've had babies in my 20s in my 30s in my 40s we know Bronwyn we know you have babies for 20 years we know you've lactated and you're at a party and have strippers which is weird which is weird

12:11Ben Mandelker: like vicky's doing all this crazy shit with her yeah and you can't tell like is she almost being jokey because there's almost like a slight curl of a smile on her face you just kind of can't really tell what's going on but all i know is that she is fixated on the fact that bronwyn um uh gets nate has gotten naked uh and is fixated on the fact that bronwyn and sean have like basically had three ways uh with like another girl even though tamra has been naked on the show multiple multiple multiple times i mean i feel like every year we have to watch her get naked and jump into some sort of hot tub and break her foot like every single season and on delays and

12:52Ronnie Karam: uh being so mad at strippers and we see vicky getting a lap dance you know i'm a mother a grandmother and a businesswoman i want to do everything i can to be respected and this name calling this trash and dance it's like what happened to the show what happened to the show

13:05Ben Mandelker: yeah and he goes you realize you're giving us like every opportunity to pause and do montages right it was like such a meta moment but it was so true he's like i mean like we're just gonna we're just gonna refute everything you say i mean we've got the

13:20Ronnie Karam: footage vicky we have it it's like i don't care then show the montage and so they do and it is just priceless. I mean, it was just, they grab her by the ankles again and just drag her right across the floor.

13:32Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's just like, we see Vicky doing a keg stand, we see Vicky talking about kissing other girls, we see Vicky talking about how she wanted to be like a swinger with a guy, strippers, doing shots out of her tits, kissing Shannon on the lips, just farting. I mean, and that's just like the light version. Yeah, and Tamara says, I miss the fun, Vicky, I miss the fun, Vicky. She's like, I am having fun. Oh, trust me, I'm having so much fun, Timmer.

13:59Ronnie Karam: They're like, you don't seem like you're very happy.

14:01Ben Mandelker: No. And Andy goes, so did getting Gretchen naked-waisted meet your moral compass? I didn't do that. I didn't do that. He goes, it happened on the show. Okay, time for another montage. And they just show it all over again.

14:15Ronnie Karam: Yep. And he's like, and you think getting naked is a new thing on this show? And she's like, Vicky's like, you know what? Women have to want to emulate us.

14:26Ben Mandelker: like no no no no vicky no one's emulating you no one and vicky's like people people want to emulate this trash like kissing each other no um you know there's some people who that is like their life by the way like it's not it's not unheard of for women to kiss other women and it's like not amoral or immoral at all it's actually like a very loving and wonderful thing

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16:48Ronnie Karam: model but some people do look at me as a role model and she's like oh jesus and she does the sign of the cross yeah and she's like i was so courageous to talk about swinging with my husband okay or yeah uh she's like bringing other people in i meant not swinging yeah well she but she's

17:05Ben Mandelker: like i love how brawin is giving herself like she's like giving herself her own like award from from like the humane society or something like that like the or the like i don't know but she's just giving herself an award but like i i think that what i did was brave i i could have just said it was a drunk mistake but no I said we are going to have another woman in this relationship every 10 years on big birthdays and I stand by and it it was a powerful moment for me thank you I'd like to thank myself for giving me this award thank you

17:37Ronnie Karam: yeah I was a hero because like I think it's disgusting it was disgusting there and Shannon goes ha strong words strong words yeah very strong

17:51Ben Mandelker: very strong words so vicky is like uh she's like yeah being married with seven children and then bringing a woman into the bedroom that's disgusting that's disgusting choose your lane choose your lane i mean like like like i you know yeah it's like choose your lane and so then uh and and he's like um he's basically like you're everyone's basically being like you're being

18:11Ronnie Karam: ridiculous yeah it's like why should she change her name her lane and she's like uh because it's disgusting i think being married and choosing women that's disgusting that's disgusting he's like uh that's how she's living her life she's like and i have an opinion about it and so tamra's like yeah none of us are here to be role models okay and andy goes well she is apparently andy's just openly mocking vicky this whole time and she goes well you know what i didn't interview for this job by the way andy i did not interview you and she he goes uh sweetie i saw your interview tape and let's cut to Vicky's interview tape.

18:49Ben Mandelker: She's like, oh, I got a big TV over here and this is where we have living room. We hang out here and then we have drinks for parties and everything like that. It's a really cozy, comfortable home. Anyway, I hope I can be on your show. I'd love to be on it. Thanks. And then Vicky's like, you know, I didn't even know it was a reality show. I didn't know what it was. And he goes, you've been here for 14 years. Don't say you didn't want to be on a reality show. You've been here for 14 years and you're clawing your way into this reunion you just had a hissy fit backstage because you you're not getting enough screen time and you're not being seated in the place on the couch that you want to be seated uh the best part

19:25Ronnie Karam: of this to me was that her name was vicky wolfsmith which i forgot yeah and it's right vicky wolfsmith runs a very successful business her husband works at home depot yeah was that don i mean because

19:39Ben Mandelker: No, that was her first husband, right? But I thought that Don, I thought the first husband was already out of the picture at that point. That's what I thought too.

19:48Ronnie Karam: So why is it Vicki Wolfsmith?

19:49Ben Mandelker: I don't know. Maybe that's just what she was going by at that time.

19:55Ronnie Karam: I just want to be a regular Smith. Just make me Vicki Smith so people don't know her. But I want to be a tough Smith. I'm a strong Wolfsmith.

20:02Ben Mandelker: Just make me a Wolfsmith, right? Yeah, yeah. So yeah, so Vicki's basically saying like how, No, no, she's basically saying she's not thirsty like Bronwyn and everything. She's not doing all the things that this one wants to do. And Shannon's like, can we just move on? Can we move on, please? I'm having negative thoughts, getting memories of David right now. Can you just move on? So Andy's like, all right, Vicky, anything you want to say before you leave? She goes, yes, I don't do podcasts at all. I will never appear on a podcast. And I have a podcast coming up with Westwood One called Financially Fabulous.

20:34Ben Mandelker: How to waste all your money on a terrible insurance agent. Thank you.

20:37Ronnie Karam: stop buying teas for people that you don't know well enough and she goes it's going to be about what i really believe in andy which is finances i was like wow what a belief system i know that really really says a lot about you my core beliefs finances so then they break for commercial and

20:56Ben Mandelker: vicky's basically dismissed and she starts walking up the stage and she is she just starts to lose

21:03Ronnie Karam: her mind well before she even leaves he's like you are nuts she goes uh i didn't interview for you by the way he's like you did a tape she goes yeah but i didn't even know it was gonna be a show and he's like it wasn't a show that's why it's like don't forget what you came don't forget where you came from andy do not forget where you came from you and he's like uh you don't forget where you come from she's like i will never so then she goes off and shannon who's just been upset that everybody calls her an alcoholic every season it's like can we get some casamigos and soda up here yeah so like everyone loses her mind and everyone's like hugging vicky bye and then emily like

21:42Ben Mandelker: stands up who emily who just had a hip hip surgery and is and is like limping she's without her walker she's like can i get a hug vicky and vicky just denies her as emily's like limping slowly off the

21:55Ronnie Karam: vicky will not hug her she just completely ignores her so vicky gets to the producer guy who's got just the look of a terrified prisoner you know yeah he's he just he's got this smile on his face but it's really tight and scary and she's like why am i going off the show why am i going off the show little producer person thankfully you're not a lesbian so i'm going to talk to you about this right why am i going off the show and he's like uh for the last segment She goes, oh, like a lap duck. A lap duck, huh? A little lap duck, huh?

22:23Ben Mandelker: Yeah, and then by the time she gets backstage, she's fully ranting. She's like, well, they can all go fuck themselves. You know what? They can all fuck themselves. They're cheering at the very end. They do the cheers, and then they get me off. You know what? You know what? I said it this. I said it this before you were there, okay? Before you were there.

22:38Ronnie Karam: Before you were there. Before you were there. I'm no longer a friend of anyone. I'm more than a friend. We need to elevate this. It's called a disaster. I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed. And then she's pacing around her dressing room, screaming at a producer and Steve. And her dress is half off, so it's like her Spanx. And then she sees that, of course, the camera is standing right there at the half-open door. And she sees the camera, and she's like, really? Fuck off! Fuck off! And then slams the door in the camera's face, and that's the last we see of Vicky.

23:12Ben Mandelker: And that's the last of Victoria. So good. What a moment. What a way to end. Like, I almost thought they can't hire her again because it's such a great way to be like, this is Vicky's final moment. Yep.

23:23Ronnie Karam: This is how they did her. And she deserved every fucking second of it. Now, here's the problem. Got really boring after this. I know.

23:32Ben Mandelker: I know. I mean, like, Vicky was at the heart of pretty much a lot of the major drama this season. So we'll see. so now um you know at this point even the even though the reunion writers are getting bored because they're not even coming up with good puns anymore they're just going all the women were opening up about their sex lives to each other and in some cases with each other you gotta check this out i was like you gotta check this out what happened to our like really awful pun that was sort of icky too where did that go you know some people say let's be off these ladies say let's be

24:12Ronnie Karam: on so i just love that they do this because you know they're just doing it to piss vicky off you know i just it's like let's kick off vicky and then let's you know have fun with everything that

24:23Ben Mandelker: she hated why did they not have vicky out for this segment this is like the perfect thing to have her out there and be get so annoyed about i think they it seems like they kept her there

24:32Ronnie Karam: and on stage most of the day, and then they just wanted to see her lose her shit, so they kicked her off early.

24:38Ben Mandelker: Yeah, probably. So Andy's like, so Bronwyn, what is it about Tamra that you find so attractive? And she's like, I don't know, she sort of looks like me, and you just know Tamra's like, because I'm hot. I'm the hot, hot swife of Orange County, bouch.

24:55Ronnie Karam: Yeah. How did you decide to give your husband three sons for his birthday? It's like, easier than shopping, Andy. Okay? it's easier than shopping yeah you can't just find a big statement necklace everywhere andy okay

25:09Ben Mandelker: i know listen that guy only that guy in kawaii only makes like one necklace a year okay you can't rush these things you got to find other options during the rest of the rest of the time so um so then uh andy's asking about like like uh like were you worried about the kids when this came out on TV? And she's like, no, actually, I went and I sat down with my older kids and I told them about it. And one of my kids said, I like the same sex too. So I really have to credit my illicit, wanton ways, according to Vicky, for allowing my child to come out of the closet.

25:49Ronnie Karam: Hero, Andy. I've said it before and I'll say it again.

25:52Ben Mandelker: I'm a hero. Here, I've written it on my chalkboard. hero and there's a little arrow if you'll notice it's actually pointing directly to me and next what i've drew i've drawn my concept for what the award i would give myself would look like

26:09Ronnie Karam: so see so kelly's like oh the kid who came out was rc right she's like um actually i'm not gonna say the kid's name because that's their story to tell all right well whatever but it was the

26:20Ben Mandelker: daughter with the curly hair right um i'm not gonna say which which one because i'm just gonna it wasn't the boy right because i remember you specifically pointed the girl and said she's a big lesbo now um kelly that's not no no kelly that's we're just gonna let her tell her

26:36Ronnie Karam: own story oh so then we get tamra tamra not to be not to be upstaged tamra has done it bigger and better than Bronwyn. Tamara, let's see some unseen footage of you trying to one-up stage Bronwyn with the bringing people into your marriage storyline. Yeah. So, unseen footage. Here we go. Tamara has also had threesomes.

27:00Ben Mandelker: I am shocked! I am completely shocked! I should also mention, speaking of one-upping, that when Bronwyn's talking about how she sat down her kids to tell them, Tamara on the side goes, I told Sophia about our kiss. I told Sophia. It's like, okay, Tamara, settle down this isn't about you tamara cannot take this she's going yeah like everything that vicky is doing externally vick uh tamara is doing internally oh 100 freaking out so uh she's like oh yeah but it wasn't just bringing someone in it was like three people yeah and yeah and emily is

27:35Ronnie Karam: questioning her this is when they were in miraval and emily is questioning her so um it was three people did you plan it were they strippers where'd you meet them blah blah blah and so we find out the story which is that she was at a party and there were it was a huge house there were huge grounds and they were all in the backyard and eddie and tamra you know they were just having sex on the fake grass like any couple does you know you go to hide at a party and fuck in somebody's backyard and then before they knew it on the grass yeah on the fake grass which is usually like for dog piss which cracks me up so she's having sex with eddie on the lawn and some friends who just happen to be in the pool like next thing we know they're all laying next to us

28:21Ben Mandelker: oh wow wow well brahman's like i just want to point out that um i did not say things like next thing you know there were a bunch of people around us i took full responsibility for my threesome and I'd like to thank the Academy for giving me this award for bravery and threesomes thank you

28:38Ronnie Karam: thank you this Tamara is just such a garbage human like I I don't even when people come over to my house I don't even like taking their plates for them you know what I mean like if I had to wipe up your body fluids after you left of course Tamara is that guest of course she is I I also

28:53Ben Mandelker: like that when we came out of the the video the unseen footage of Tamara telling Emily all about her threesome. Then when it came out, when we came out of that, Shannon goes, well, that's a little more than what I heard. Huh, that's called a gangbang. Which is her way of saying, I can't believe you tell Emily, of all people, about your threesome, your gangbang, which is not to be confused with a gangster, which is what Kelly Dad is, but you wouldn't tell me. Great, real friendship. Huh, real friendship.

29:19Ronnie Karam: She was so mad. And Tamara's like, well, you know, what are you gonna do? And Andy said, don't worry about it, you're a consenting adult. She's like, but everyone once I had his wiener. That was weird.

29:32Ben Mandelker: I know. I've helped hard for those people, too. So then Kelly, now it's time to talk about Kelly. Kelly is the last man in her life, and she's got a round-trip ticket to Mentown on peak hours or off-peak. It's like Kelly Metro North, and she's finally laying down the tracks with New Happily Ever After, and let's retire training teams forever.

29:57Ronnie Karam: her a choo choos to do that whoops did it again um she's rolling her eyes like now she's just been laughing and cracking up and she's like i'm mad now like she's like yeah now it's my segment where i'm gonna get mad again i'm very mad yeah so then during her segment shannon whispers she kind of mutters over to her she's like oh well you were gonna get married kelly goes i was not yes you were you said you were gonna be married in six months on camera you said it Well, I may not know about kingpings, but I do know a relationship fail when I see one. Have fun!

30:33Ben Mandelker: I may have suffered a mild concussion on account of your violent ways because you are a gangster. But one thing that I don't suffer from is amnesia. I remember that moment. Ha! Busted. There's case law to support that what I say is true.

30:49Ronnie Karam: So Kelly, we find out about her family and she's like, well, you know, me and my mom are okay. She comes every other week. my brother was the one who put all those rumors out you know like the lies about everything like saying that i threw my mother down the stairs oh and then he's like oh so that did come from your brother she's like yeah it was hard and then my mom took my brother's side because i kicked him out but then she said she'll vouch for me so he's like oh so you started talking to your mom again because your brother made up lies about you pushing her down the stairs she's like yeah It's like, wow, that's actually kind of sweet.

31:23Ronnie Karam: Yeah.

31:24Ben Mandelker: Who would have thought that that rumor would have brought you guys together? I'm sorry, Andy, if this is an attempt to take away my award for bravery and give it to Kelly's brother for starting that rumor, I will not stand for that. I will not. And I've taught my children not to stand for that. And that is what I have brought to my family. Oh, did I just receive another award for myself? Wow. Thank you. Thank you, me. well Dr.

31:48Ronnie Karam: Brian was flirting with the idea of moving in with Kelly right she goes well he wanted to he did he was the one he wanted it

31:59Ronnie Karam: it's like you amend housewives history just like a 10-year housewife congratulations so did you break up with him on social she was no did he break up with you on social she's like

32:10Ben Mandelker: no I broke up with him yeah yeah that uh because basically she said that she went away with the ramona singer okay and that's when she met rick and then that was like in july and um i guess i

32:24Ronnie Karam: guess she just like felt it with rick and so she dumped brian yeah uh so yeah she basically went on instagram stories or something i'm not really sure and then brian wrote a thing on his instagram like well it was nice knowing you kelly but i wish you the best they actually had like a remarkably

32:43Ben Mandelker: clean social media breakup. They didn't talk shit about each other. She said, oh, he's wonderful. Moving on. I was like, whoa, this was nice. So then Tamara's like, so Rick Leventhal's so he lives in New York. How's that gonna work, huh? Good luck with that storybook ending. She's like, well, maybe I'll move to New York. You can't move to New York. What about Jolie? What about Jolie? You can't take her out of the state. Michael won't let you. And then Tamara and Shannon are just basically smiling at this dilemma that Kelly will have to face.

33:16Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and Kelly's like, well, we're gonna work it out. She goes, you can't.

33:19Ben Mandelker: Hmm. There's the case law. Case law.

33:23Ronnie Karam: And Andy just says, okay, well, I'm happy for you. And then Tamara gives a look to the camera like, give it a shot.

33:31Ben Mandelker: Yeah, at some point, I think Andy asks, has anyone here met Rick Leventhal? And I think only one person had FaceTimed with him, and he goes, wow! I guess that means that I'm the only one who's met him. And he like shakes, he does like a windshield wiper with his head. I'm like, okay, Andy, settle down. Settle down with your Rick Leventhal proximity bragging. Commercials, here comes one right now.

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35:00Ronnie Karam: So, next segment. Hey, guys, it's been awkward without someone to hate out here. Okay, Vicki, not talking about you, even though I am, and it's on camera. I would like to welcome Shane. You know, while Shane was studying for the bar, he was also lowering the bar for unsupportive husbands. All right, let's bring Shane out.

35:20Ben Mandelker: Let's bring him out, and let's try to save him from the train. Oh, can't help myself, Kelly. Had to throw in another idiom. Didn't even make sense. It was not even very interesting. I just said train, but I can't help myself.

35:36Ronnie Karam: Let's throw mama from the Shane. Sorry, that didn't even make sense.

35:40Ben Mandelker: Ride with train. Come on, ride the Shane. Ride it. Oh, sorry. Just got in my head, Derek Kelly. I promise I'll be my last one. So Emily has just told everybody, my biggest issue with Shane is compassion, because I don't get that. And, you know, I want to divorce him, but I want to put my kids first. And so the best thing for my kids is for me to try and work it out and to completely malign their father on national TV and really show what an asshole he is. You know, it's been great for our family, basically, Andy, is what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and apparently Gina on Watch What Happens Live basically was insinuating, not so surprisingly, that the dysfunction in Emily and Chan's relationship is more of a two-sided street or two-way street than it would appear.

36:33Ben Mandelker: And so Emily was sort of hurt by that. And Gina goes, you know, it's like that time when you accidentally texted your mother-in-law some things that weren't meant for her and then she read them and then wasn't speaking to you anymore. and him was like oh yeah because i told you that in confidence right oops did i do that

36:52Ronnie Karam: what sorry um which is hilarious she's like fuck you shane god damn it she's telling off she accidentally sends it to her mother so andy's like well this year you know you embraced your curves it's like yeah and actually i gained 25 pounds you know it's very important as women that we're proud of how we look and then they cut to Shannon looking just so uncomfortable like oh well I suppose that I'm going to be shamed for looking thin now so thanks a lot

37:25Ben Mandelker: you win some and you lose some or I guess in the case of Emily you win some and you don't lose some oh I'm shaming now okay sorry I liked also by the way that in this segment about like embracing your curves and everything when Emily said I gained 25 pounds and he goes wow wow it's like okay it's not like she added 100 pounds 25 pounds yes she added some but that's like not out of the realm of like crazy weight gain oh so he's asking her uh he's like well

37:56Ronnie Karam: you know right after you did that that self-empowering thing in vegas you got on the scale at tamra's gym and you were diagnosed as obese like yeah okay yes but a diagnosis is I'm like, come on now.

38:11Ben Mandelker: Well, I just heard from a mirror in your bedroom, and I just got this report from a mirror in your bedroom, and the mirror says, congratulations, you are officially hideous. What do you say to your mirror? It's like, uh, Andy.

38:26Ronnie Karam: Jeez. That's so sensitive, this show. So sensitive. So she's like, well, I knew I'd gained weight, because, like, my jeans, you know, your jeans don't fit, and stuff like that. and you know tamra i just want to say publicly you did not pressure me to get on the scale i did it on my own but when i saw that number you know i was embarrassed because tamra's in such good shape okay listen to your own advice like stop stop with this like you can't say like i'm gonna empower women i mean you can't say it i get i get the conflict you know like i understand the weight problem stuff but like in one sentence the same segment she's like i think we should empower women to be proud and then she's like oh i'm fagging weight you know like come on listen to your own advice be proud you're gorgeous we all know the best way to empower women

39:12Ben Mandelker: is to remind them that if they bring in another woman into the bedroom that that's something that you should be that's like that's something you do and yeah it's heroic so tamra's like but what did i say remember when i was there i said that supportive thing i said don't cry now at least you're doing something about it. I said hey stop crying. Hold on wait for me to take a selfie and then you can cry in the background of that. It'll be hilarious. Okay now cry. Remember when I said cry outside because at least like you'll be getting some sunshine. Get out of my gym stupid. So Shanna's like well Emily if this helps you I was bigger than you before I miraculously lost all of my weight and look amazing now are you guys supposed to be helping and gina's like i mean come on i'm a little chubby right now who cares um that was actually my way to remind the producers that i am actually the original uh gained a lot of weight and then lost it uh storyline so uh let's not like idolize her too much because i went on a much more difficult journey i'm just

40:24Ronnie Karam: just saying just putting it out there yeah it is really like the new class coming in and taking the old class's jobs. I mean, is that Shannon's last storyline? Bronwyn's storyline is totally a Tamara storyline. And her whole, like, being naked all the time, blah, blah, blah. And you can see their reactions the whole episode. I mean, Tamara and Shannon are so pissed every time anybody else talks. Tamara's, like, sipping from that invisible straw like crazy. Yeah. So Andy's like, well, after talking about him all season long, it's only fair to give Shane a chance to air his side of the very short person's story.

41:00Shane, come on.

41:02Ben Mandelker: Shane, come on out here and sit next to your wife who just had hip surgery, so I'm sure you'll be mindful of that. Oh, and you just sat on her newly replaced hip. Hi, Emily, how do you feel? Oh, I'm okay, I'm okay.

41:16Ronnie Karam: And Andy just gives a look to the camera like, Jesus Christ, this guy. And as he comes out, Kelly's clapping. She's just like giving him applause and nobody else does.

41:26Ben Mandelker: Actually, that was worst cold. for twerk. Well, she thinks she's at Maury Povich or something. It's the father. It's the father. So Andy is like, well, in the pantheon of house husbands, you're pretty high up there in terms of husbands that people dislike. How does that make you feel?

41:45Ronnie Karam: It's like, well, at least I've accomplished something.

41:51Ben Mandelker: Well, I guess that's actually true. Can't take that away from him.

41:55Ronnie Karam: Yeah, he's really doing his best to come off as the good guy here. He comes out and he's like, I'm just here to support Emily. Of course I support Emily. And he's like, but to someone, what would you say to people who would say, for example, you're a total dick? He's like, well, I can be. But I would say to them, we film hours and hours for months at a time. And there's more to it. you know and then there's there's like snippets where i joke like of course the bread you know she was laughing when i was trying to make her eat bread while she was on a dime she thought that

42:33Ben Mandelker: was hilarious yeah yeah she was laughing so hard she had tears coming down her her cheeks i mean just like tons of tears and you know it's funny when she laughs she actually frowns a lot she basically was like frowning and tears and her chest was heaving she was laughing so hard what's

42:49Ronnie Karam: so funny is she was laughing so hard you know they didn't get this on camera but like pieces of bread were actually hitting me in the face as they flew out of her mouth. That's how hard she was laughing at.

42:59Ben Mandelker: People don't realize this. This is like hours and hours and hours. And then you get one snippet where you're being a dick. And that's what they put up there. And what you don't see are all the hours where you're being so much more of a dick. It's actually unfair that people don't really realize the depths of me being a dick.

43:18Ronnie Karam: But, you know, come on. I mean, maybe it was just the taunting after she got on the scale and was diagnosed to be obese and he's like well i don't see her as obese andy you know i tell her love yourself and she's beautiful i've never commented on her weight um which good answer i mean he's doing he's doing well he didn't fall into the like he didn't fall

43:40Ben Mandelker: into any traps there he was like i've always thought emily was beautiful even when she was nagging me and trying to make me look make me look dumb on camera not doing things like leaving me alone while I studied for the bar. So that's, we should probably mention that I failed because of her, right? She mentioned that. But she is beautiful. She is beautiful. A beautiful distraction.

44:00Ronnie Karam: And Andy asked Bronwyn, what would you do if Sean spoke to you the way Shane speaks to Emily? And she's like, well, Andy, I would grab the blonde girl that I brought over for his birthday, turn her to him, and say, yell at her, okay? I'm not here for this.

44:19Ben Mandelker: And then I would go and tell my children what i did and i said the way that that man was talking to me was unacceptable and i brought a basket of bread for all of us to eat because all of us deserve it and it's about time that we got back to having bread as a family thank you again and good night everyone good night i thank you for

44:38Ronnie Karam: this award so what do you think about that uh burlesque thing that emily did you know she was dancing for you and he's like well when i first heard about it i was flattered but then i found it's going to be part of the filming and the cameras are going to be there so it took on a different what the fuck did you think it was going to be it was at the it was at the jackie siegel casino and it was a show you think that anybody without a tv show can just be like hey

45:04Ben Mandelker: i'm gonna guest star in your burlesque show yeah do you think anyone would even want to do that i mean like it is the most producer driven thing that anyone could even imagine did you really think emily just up and decided one day that she was gonna turn to ann ranking okay from an off

45:21Ronnie Karam: vague off strip casino no and he goes i just you know i needed to step back andy i wasn't comfortable in that ambiance what the fuck are you even saying right now i know uh so he is so

45:34Ben Mandelker: so what do you love about emily i mean what isn't there to love she's smart she's beautiful she helps me with my two older children which is cool she calls me up when I'm in the middle of studying which is great it's a great way to get my mind off of all that important stuff I need to know to pass the bar love that love that about her wow she's great

45:59Ronnie Karam: he's talking about how Shannon how Emily helped in the marriage when they first got together he has two older kids and she really helped him learn to be a father and a husband and he's trying to give like a serious, like say how much she's helped him. Like he's giving a good answer, right? He's being nice.

46:18Ben Mandelker: He actually was, he actually was, believe it or not, I actually think he did very well during his segment.

46:22Ronnie Karam: Yeah, he did a good job. He's had very good coaching. He's had like scandal coaching, you know? He really has. Shannon's like, oh, well, I just want to say, Shane, I only met you one time and I'm shocked, right? I am just shocked because I wish that Emily had told us some of these things. these wonderful things instead of all those negative things that she

46:43Ben Mandelker: says about terrible, terrible things. Just finding a way to pile on. And of course, Tamara just smells blood in the water and she goes, yeah, you shared a lot of things in your interviews that were not so nice about your mouth. You didn't even talk about the good stuff in your interviews. I'm like, okay, Tamara acting as if she doesn't know how a TV show is put together. Just trying to draw a wedge between

47:09Ronnie Karam: uh emily and shane yeah they're so heavy-handed and they're so like blame the woman too you know which is so them it's so those two so emily is like uh well you know it was bad so i was talking about the bad stuff and he's like uh so basically you guys are saying that she's just playing the victim on tv and they just like look at him like yeah pretty much and she was like well yeah i do think that you're one-sided and i'm in your corner but i do think it's hard for you you know because like you present yourselves as you are if you're not presenting it as you are it's like look who's talking gina yeah you know i'm like i know you've gone through a rough time but you lied your entire first season like shut up gina quiet right or maybe not so much being lied but it was just like

47:55Ben Mandelker: this was not honest with the reality of our situation with either herself or her castmates which is probably more realistic no no well that's different than i feel like lying is a little bit more of a malicious thing i think it's i think it's i think it's possible to not to not be honest about a situation because you're not ready to come to terms with it which is maybe more realistic to what's going on with emily i mean who knows so um uh what are the things uh oh so so kelly apparently went to cabbo with shane and emily with like i'm assuming brian um and uh she saw another side do you see another side of emily and cabo she's like yeah there's a side or she'll lash out she'll be like very upset she can't compartmentalize like you say you're such a dork and she doesn't know

48:39Ronnie Karam: how to respond to that it's weird and emily's like yeah she said it was a bitch because yeah i said you're a bitch and you're mean you're being mean to shane and he goes so are you guys happy now in your marriage and she's like yeah i mean we made a list of stuff and like we both wrote down a list and then we made a mission statement yeah i remember that scene in jerry

48:59Ben Mandelker: mcguire in the very beginning when jerry mcguire like it's like oh my god and then runs to kinko's late at night and it's like here's my mission statement that's sort of like what i did with shane except i wrote it on loose leaf paper and just sort of taped it to the back of the refrigerator and andy's like what's your refrigerator joke was not supposed to be if that was supposed by the way that refrigerator joke was not an obesity joke by the way i just realized as i said it it was not a way i was not making i was not making a fat shaming joke about the refrigerator i just like said refrigerator because it was like a thing that i imagine people tape things to okay i just want to clarify it right away it's not fat shaming and he's like okay great shane

49:37Ronnie Karam: thanks a lot for being such a you know bag of dicks okay get out i guess you don't have horns coming out of your head he's like well i don't have i don't have angel wings either and he's like well that we've established and then shane just looks furious he's like bye he stomps his

49:54Ben Mandelker: foot in the ground so hard he just like wedges himself into the floor of the reunion rumple

49:59Ronnie Karam: stiltskin reference about this what do you think about this uh stuff with with shane them accusing gina of just making shane look bad emily you mean yes and then her um i mean i think uh you know i

50:14Ben Mandelker: think that in any in any situation there's there's always going to be a lot of ambiguity right it's like it's more it's my it's like it's my truth his truth and then the truth right but uh i mean yeah there's probably like there's probably some instigation that emily contributes to uh but as far as i can tell like i i understand i understand how reality tv works i know that there's editing i know that like there's probably like great sides of shane you know that are super awesome but the truth is what we saw is what we saw and like like everyone is allowed to be grouchy everyone's allowed to have dick moments but like if those are your dick moments dude you gotta like

50:54Ronnie Karam: work on your dick yeah he's terrible he's fucking terrible like i mean they can edit you all they want but you're still a fucking asshole who talks to your wife like that my god yeah so i i feel

51:05Ben Mandelker: like i don't i can't talk about what emily could possibly be like or even what he could possibly We'd be like, I take it back. We're podcasters. Of course we can talk about that stuff. But the truth is we see what he is like on camera. And he just seems like a dick. I thought it was funny at one point where he's like, oh, no one sees this side of Emily.

51:26Ronnie Karam: I was like, really? Last year she was crawling over people trying to murder Kelly. You know? Yeah. Threatening to kill somebody. Yeah, we have seen it. And you're still an asshole, Shane.

51:36Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Not only have we seen it, we actually like it. So that's going to be a problem for you.

51:40Ronnie Karam: yeah so then we get to the most depressing part which is the gina segment which what a way to end

51:46Ben Mandelker: of reunion guys thanks a lot i know what we're here end of year um it was actually pretty riveting she was talking about it and like you know she's right now gina has a new boyfriend named travis that she met through shay her hair and makeup chick yet what it wear it up to shay um and uh you know, basically, Andy starts asking about what happened the famous night, June 22nd, which is, like, about a month after filming wrapped, and that's when Matt was arrested for domestic violence, and then you hear, like, Andy clearly had to, like, insert in, Bravo, I should say, had to insert in Andy saying, in post-production, Matt denies all these allegations, and yeah.

52:33Ben Mandelker: Here's a statement from his lawyer.

52:34Ronnie Karam: the events that happened were unfortunate i was like okay lemony snicket way to just like

52:41Ben Mandelker: just gloss that one over yeah exactly so um the long and the short of it according to gina was that they they had some sort of argument in the morning which apparently was really bad and then they but they had plans to go out that night so he apologized that way they could like go out and then they went out and he was awesome and everything was great but then they were also drinking and when they were ubering home he got angry and was kicked out of the uber to me already at that point i'm like what did you do that caused you to get kicked out of an uber

53:16Ronnie Karam: because you were so angry yeah this guy sounds like a real fucking prince yeah so she goes home in the uber and he called her and said i can't order an uber because you're you have my uber because i ordered that from my phone so then she goes to bed thinking okay well i'm home now so can get an uber but then his phone died then he was so mad because he had to walk home by the time he got home he was infuriated and he got up to the second you know level and was in a rage and then she ran out of there and was like knocking on neighbors doors and he dragged

53:48Ben Mandelker: her back into the house i mean jesus yeah i mean it was it's really really bad and i kind of felt bad for uh for gina because she was saying well you know he's walking and walking because well I mean, I felt bad for obviously for many reasons. It's a given. But I felt bad that she was up there on this reunion saying, you know, then he's walking and he's like, it's going over in his head over and over and over again. He's like working his way up. I felt bad that she felt that she had to like rationalize why he got angry enough to do everything that he did. Like, he's a dick. That's why he did it.

54:21Ben Mandelker: You don't have to say, oh, well, because she was walking. it almost sounds like she's taking a little bit of that responsibility off his shoulders so when she said that I was like no Gina no like you don't have to say he was getting angrier and angrier you can say he is a dick with real issues but I mean you know so so basically she Matt is facing a potentially seven years in jail and Tamara goes wow and in the middle of this very serious moment Kelly just looks at Tamara and goes hug her Tamra hug her

54:55Ronnie Karam: yeah cause Tamra was like so he's gonna go to jail right like he could go to prison and Emily's like I mean uh Gina's like yeah he could face seven years and Tamra's like wow

55:06Ben Mandelker: yeah just hug her Tamra's like yeah Tamra's pretending to show empathy but not actually doing it that's why Kelly's like just hug her damn it yeah hug her down the stairs geez Tamra goes but there's a pillow that's in front of us I can't and then she like puts like her arms over as if like they're they are like separated by like a like a gulf it's like camera you can hug someone with a pillow that's in between you guys it's like the most of all the items that could get caught in between two people in a hug a pillow is the best thing yeah well the good thing about all of this is

55:40Ronnie Karam: that she is out of that thank god and she's with you know someone new who's treating her well and um she's good for you girl because that's yeah i'm i'm really yeah i'm really happy that she's

55:52Ben Mandelker: moved on and that's a terrible thing to go through. I'm happy she did not get caught in any sort of cycle. It was really hard watching the season sometimes because we had seen that this happened in the news and a lot of times when we'd be recapping episodes, we would allude to it because it would make us uncomfortable to hear Gina saying things like, we're going to try to really work it out. We decided, yeah, Matt's totally changed, totally changed. And like, on the one hand, we would laugh because it was so naive of her of course he hasn't changed changed but on the other hand was also like we knew we knew what this was leading to and that was like oh gina oh gina but

56:30Ronnie Karam: you know what hopefully it's in the rear view mirror yeah um so they do a new kind of ending which uh andy you know struggles with explaining he's like well we've got bulls so we're gonna have a flower and then you're gonna put a flower on the bowl and then you're gonna talk about another flower because you aren't going to have two flowers so then you get two flowers and then you have a bowl then you hit the bowl i was like what this was this was an awkwardly executed

56:56Ben Mandelker: segment hopefully one that will be retired soon so i don't need to hear a bull's dong okay it's

57:02Ronnie Karam: almost like evidence for shannon's mounting case mounting a case against kelly i'm like that is

57:07Ben Mandelker: fucking annoying my brain is bleeding it's yeah so the women have to um uh let go of one thing and invite something into their life and throw rose petals in each one. So Kelly starts it off with letting go of negativity and she's like, I'm bringing in well, I already got Target and Walmart and they just show Shannon Scalding oh, she's making a joke of this too I guess just, yeah, I'm fine I won't even comment on it

57:31Ronnie Karam: Sputtering mad over there, hilarious Oh, and I want to bring in Rick Levinson and she bungs the thing and laughs and Shannon's like, wow, that was a light mallet

57:43Ben Mandelker: so imagine what the heavy one felt like i mean yeah i mean you saw right there that that bowl just got a concussion itself so you know just imagine my head that's a emily i just want to let uh i want to let go of her and anything that i felt or mommy who are we kidding gina i want to let go of things i you know i hated that bitch but i like her again and i hope for a new beginning with me and gina and of course emily is the person to hit the bowl while sitting on her laps it just goes like this. Blink. Yeah, it's like, blink. Of course Emily has, like, a dull fud of a reverberation.

58:18Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So Bronwyn takes it, and she's like, I'm letting go of caring what everybody thinks, and I'm bringing in badass Bronwyn. Hero.

58:29Ben Mandelker: You just come out, Dr. Deb is watching that at home, like, oh, I'd like to see that, badass Bronwyn. Really would like to see that. Ego. How about, how about, how about thanking her mother for all the opportunities that she provided for her. Bronwyn. How about that type of Bronwyn?

58:46Ronnie Karam: And then Gina's like, I love you, Emily. I've actually had a heavy year and I let go of stuff already, so I'm gonna let go of risky beauty choices. When is that gonna start?

58:58Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I haven't seen that. Tomorrow.

59:04Ben Mandelker: I think we need to invite her into a calendar. That's what we need to invite in the calendar yeah and tamra's like i'm about to have less lips it's like oh god again like how

59:15Ronnie Karam: many times are we gonna have to see the vagina tightening story come on like literally already

59:20Ben Mandelker: been done this season and then because it's like the very end of the reunion uh tamra is like wait a second there's one last chance for me to be dramatic and she goes and i'm bringing in health and wellness from my for my for my family and she starts choking up i'm like this is truly the most generic wish for family i'm not saying it's a bad one but like you're gonna choke up by saying i

59:42Ronnie Karam: wish you health and wellness yeah well she's saying for depressed ryan who's you know the guy who you know wants to kill trans people like oh like let's feel for your son again tamra the fucking monster

59:52Ben Mandelker: you're a fucking jackass thanks for cementing that ronnie he never had a shot in life oh god poor guy

59:57Ronnie Karam: it's like he didn't get to keep all that money he was raised with he's just a straight white male who

1:00:03Ben Mandelker: spent a good chunk of his life in a McMansion with his mom. That's all. Really rough.

1:00:11Ronnie Karam: So Shanna's like, well, I'm going to let go of my past. It's going to be hard to let go of that Target-Walmart comment, but I'm going to try. And I'm going to bring in continued happiness and growth for my family and my new person and his family, who live in the same state as me. I'm like Kelly, duh!

1:00:29Ben Mandelker: Yeah! Bong! One thing I won't be letting go of will be Sophie's college tuition because it's already been taken by Jim Bellino. Four years taken away.

1:00:46Ronnie Karam: So, and he's like, wow, you know, coming here today, I thought we weren't going to accomplish anything. And safe to say we've accomplished nothing because it's a housewives reunion. What do you expect us to do over here? Okay. We're not building the city, idiots.

1:00:59Ben Mandelker: Yeah, and he goes, well, we thought we would toast with wheatgrass. And then you see Shannon. Busy Shannon's face is like, oh, oh, God. Oh, God. It's all happening. Do I want wheatgrass? No. No. No. But we decided to go with tequila instead. Oh, Andy Cohen. Wow. Really got my leg that time. Fun Shannon is ready to go.

1:01:20Ronnie Karam: And then Bronwyn does the new girl thing when the new girls always steal the toast. I love that. She's like, I'll toast to sisterhood. and tamar's like to season 14 may we never be lover except we want you to because it was a

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