#3457 Next Gen NYC S2E04 Part 1: Do The Ends Justify the Ketamines?

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2:23Watch what happens when there's so much that happens. It's so funny. Watch what happens when there's so much that happens.

2:50Hi there.

2:52Ronnie Karam: How are you?

2:58Ronnie Karam: News break. News break. Well, what's happening? I don't even know. What's happening? Some very important news is happening. I just went pee pee in between our shows. We just recorded another show and I was scrolling as one does. And I came across this headline. Candice Bushnell and Margaret Joseph joined the Golden Life cast. in the Hamptons as E! orders additional episodes. Does that mean they're cast on there for good? They're joining the cast. Oh! There you go. I can't imagine they're joining, joining. They're probably just participating. Right? I don't know. E! has ordered additional episodes of the reality series that reunites the OG cast of New York City as they live in Palm Beach.

3:45Ronnie Karam: The new episodes will take Kelly, Ben Simone, Countess Luann, Dorinda, Sonia Morgan and Ramona Singer to the Hamptons where they will meet. Oh, Jesus. They're just making appearances. Never mind. Cut out the news part. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. I will say, though, Margaret Josephs would have been a fabulous Rony cast member. I mean, she was great on New Jersey, but she also really has old-school Rony energy. Like, she has the accent, even New Jersey accent, but she still has that sort of, like, She talks like this fast She'll say what's on her mind And she'll sort of like She'll give you a hard truth but also be maternal at the same time Yeah Shut up Shut your mouth I don't want to hear about it anymore So maybe put her on the Roni reboot Yeah Well damn it that sounded like a great thing But I guess they're just making appearances Oh well That's still exciting Still fun I mean I got everybody excited for nothing A bunch of nothing.

4:49Ronnie Karam: Here's some hopes, and here they are. Crushed. Well, if they're adding episodes onto The Golden Life, does that mean that it's going really well, or they just don't have enough content? Yeah, they ordered more episodes. I don't know. They said that they did all their episodes, and now they're ordering more. I don't know. It's E, so I don't know how E works. E's like, okay, we'll have this part of the season, and then we'll do a whole other part of the season and just keep it going every day. Yeah, and what's on? I just hope it's not schlocky. That's all I want. I want it to be at Housewives level.

5:20Ronnie Karam: They did say that it's more positive and fun than Real Housewives of New York was. And I thought, oh, no. No. Fun and games. Fun and games. Yeah. Okay. Well, speaking of fun and happy, first of all, our Patreon, patreon.com slash watchacrappens is a bastion of fun and happiness. Bonus episodes, weekly newsletters, ad-free listening video. everything you want for the full Crappens experience is there so go listen also fun and happy is Next Gen New York City which we're here to recap you missed well we didn't talk about last week's episode last week's episode something happened on it what happened on last week's episode of Last Gen Next Gen Old School Roni is Last Gen New York City this is Next Gen they had a girls night They had like a girls' night and a boys' night, ravel girls' night, ravel boys' night.

6:18And like Brooks was like, I don't want to hang out with Charlie. And then it was like chaotic. Because Charlie said just he better not, you know, talk shit to my face or something.

6:29Ronnie Karam: Like he better just stay out of my face or something. And then Gia told her boyfriend and then – or no, the boyfriend told Gia that. And then Gia texted it to Brooks. And so Brooks knew. And so they were trying to have boys' night. And he's like, Amy, what is this, pool? I wish I was at girls' night. And, you know, then there was a kerfuffle. And then they were like, boys' night sucks, but girls' night's fun. So then the boys decided to come to girls' night. Meanwhile, they're all drinking. Well, I guess not all of them, but they're drinking, you know. And Riley starts getting tootie with Ava.

7:06Ronnie Karam: And she's making little comments to Ava. Ava's hanging out with her at the bar, and she's just making little comments. What was she even saying? I mean, I didn't think it was that big of a deal. It was. I don't even remember. I just remember watching it and seeing Bravo working overtime to make it seem like this was like a very heated, intense thing. And then Bravo was like, to be continued. I was like, for what? What's the cliffhanger here? It's a girl's night and a boy's night. I don't get it. So where we come back is that Ava and Riley are at the bar. And, you know, Riley and Ava. It was tense between them.

7:44But then the episode opens with them being like, anyway. And then they hug.

7:50Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I was like, really? And Ava's like, I don't know where this is coming from. I think she's kind of acting out of character. Like, I mean, maybe it's because it's the first time she's been around the group for a while. I mean, maybe she's just in her head, you know? So she's like, okay, well, let's, you know, here's your shot. Riley. Let's just get Riley some more shots. Yeah. So they're like, Ava tells us We need to get Riley home And so then we watch as they all Gently bring Riley Down to the sidewalk And find a cab for her and send her on her way Just kidding, they don't do anything To get her to go home She's like, we need to really get Riley Home, here's a shot, let's go back to the table So meanwhile, Georgia Has been telling them You guys Charlie is totally betrayed man like it's gone he's like him and omar like stealing the creative for club club like they're totally gonna make a club club they are not opening a club it's instilling the club club is a bowling alley in brooklyn where people dance on bowling floors so it's unless they're really going for that same danger it's not the same thing but um she's mad and so amira is like well so you're saying because it's yours and she's like yeah she goes well why don't you just go into business with them and she's like oh you want me like why would i tether myself to those two in business she goes because it's yours so why don't you get in on it she's like you want me to go in business with homar and amira's like no i don't think you should go into business with omar but i do think that you should be like a little bit more involved in it somehow and george is like um i think i'm like under explaining how like genuinely dramatic everything was like it is mine and i would rather go and like make it on my own but it's like stressful that they're like also like trying to do it at the same time and like like you know whatever like lala and like omar has like millions of millions of dollars they can and like you know what i mean the mirror is like fair that was a mirror's way of saying i'm bored i don't want to talk about this anymore i yeah yeah so george is like i mean like i could like as an option you know what i'm just ranting anyway because everybody's looking at her like nobody cares georgia you know nobody wants to just say people open clubs in new york city every five minutes you know yeah so then um ariana gets up to go pee pee and george is like you know the thing with the mirror is i feel like you just don't know where you stand like when i apologized to her i thought we were good but like there's like under the surface tension like where's that even coming from so then yeah ava and riley have rejoined and they're like trying to be like what's going on with you guys and georgia's saying well i was just talking about this but happened with charlie and like because like amira turned to me and she was like don't you think you should just like go into business with him and i was like after like the fucking story i just told you like why the fuck is charlie involved you know but then amira returns from the bathroom and like just at the tail end of this so it's like awkward because she like may have overheard georgia saying like all this stuff about amira and she's like yeah i was like really confused by your question i'm not gonna lie but like i feel like i provided a good answer though and amira's like yeah you did listen do I need to get up and go to the bathroom again that was supposed to be a break so that this conversation was over like this conversation was over I will go again do you need me to number two for this conversation to end because I'll fucking do it so then George is like I mean is there anything else that's like up with us and Amira's like no I'm okay with you it's just I like you know I just like never brought up the Kevin of it all you know and like so she tells us, you know what, I didn't say anything because I was like, I know my man, and I don't really care.

11:53And it was literally her just being overly flirty and having her rubby little hands on his leg and laughing. And they keep showing a close-up of Georgia and her hand touching Kevin's arm. But of course, they do an extreme close-up on the hand because Georgia's hands are of course the hot topic.

12:13Ronnie Karam: Yes. They're still on about georgia's hands what it wasn't this episode it was last week where she georgia and her friend go in for a meeting with this guy's like oh my god i am so excited to meet with you guys tell me your plan and she's like well we're thinking like cleaning products because like i'm like sort of like like gen c doesn't really like got cleaning and like people give me a lot of shit for my hands so we decided to like make cleaning fun like why don't you make washing your hands fun that was that was one of my favorite all-time scenes on this show was georgia pitching a soap to this guy he's like what are we thinking the creatives are on this love it so yes yeah washing your hands just isn't fun enough for gen z so she's gonna make it fun i'm like are gen z like six years old that's like that's like the sort of pitch you do to make kids brush their teeth so um so george is basically saying about not getting pink eye is that fun yeah you know yeah exactly so then amira's like so who is telling you about like how i felt about you and kevin by the way because i didn't bring it up to you and george is like um i mean it's like the way it was like relayed to me like because i think it was like being made to be a bigger deal than maybe what you're saying but it was it was charlie charlie was the one who did it and it's definitely charlie so then riley is like okay continue and she's well i mean i did not like i didn't originally hear it from charlie i heard it from like nate's friend cooper and then like the way charlie related it was like over and over again it just like the main issues was like charlie and cooper a new york post um huffington post anything posts so everyone it everywhere.

14:05Gay telephone, everything. Gay grapevine, gay skateboards.

14:10Ronnie Karam: Yeah, her whole gray through the gay grapevine. It's just Cooper, by the way. It's her gay Cooper is the gay grapevine, I think. Yeah. So, Miriam's like, okay, got it, because I need to have a conversation with Charlie then. Okay, I mean, look, I feel like anything I would tell him in confidence, I'm shocked that he would just, like, bring it around to you guys. And George is like, you're shocked? Yeah. And she's like, yeah, I mean, you know, like we've had so many private conversations, him and I, like Amira's, Amira can't believe that Charlie, the most reliable and upstanding person of this cast would actually like exaggerate something and make it dramatic.

14:49Ronnie Karam: And Amira's telling us, yeah, like, so Georgia really just changed the story. I mean, first she says it's a great gay grapevine, which is really her friend Cooper and maybe my assistant Nate, but now I have to go talk to Charlie. Jesus Christ. and George is like by the way I didn't know it was like a private conversation she's like no no it's not that it's private it's just like it just wasn't that big of a deal okay so um that meanwhile they cut to Rowan who we who's also a new addition that's Brooke Shields his daughter and she's like watching this whole thing and she has this look on her face like what I can't understand and the producer's like are you following she goes no no No.

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18:01Ronnie Karam: So now they find out the guys are coming. Ava tells them that the guys are going to come to the girls' night, which they all love. And Amira's like, well, then I'm going to bring this up. Why Charlie felt the need to take this back to Georgia? They're like, good, you get her. you get him Amira and she's like you know the thing I was telling you about her being like all touchy feely towards Kevin like Charlie's the one that basically circulated around God they're just going on and on about this so Ariana's like yeah he's a big drama queen but I wouldn't fuck with Amira like she's sweet but don't cross her yeah exactly so then like everyone then we see this sort of like montage of various people trying to give Riley water and riley's like i'm gonna drink it later i'll drink up later i'm just gonna like i'll drink water at home i'll drink water but like it's here's some water it's sparkling she's like hell no so riley is like slowly getting more and more kind of like drunk and belligerent um she's like definitely in that way that like a 23 year old gets like drunk and belligerent it was just like a really annoying way it's like we all had friends when we were 23 who would do this and it was just like the worst or were people when we were 23 that we were doing this oh my god where she's like yeah um i'm i don't like you know she has this look like i don't like you or she'll like roll her eyes and she's doing all this stuff and no one's really like an arguments with no one yeah yeah she's in an argument with no one yeah it's a good way to put it so um ariana's like listen you know remember how we said sometimes we're out in public and people recognize us and she's like well should i go home then she goes no no just keep drinking water you know because that keeps everything flowing in your body water does water only helps with the hangover by the way it does not make you more sober so rowan they decide they move outside to a little table outside and they're like where are the guys where are they gonna show up and they're still trying to like push water on riley and riley still doesn't want them and um then the guys finally show up and so Liam is there and I don't know if Riley's ever met Liam because she goes, who the hell is this bitch?

20:21Ronnie Karam: So he comes in and he's like, hey everybody it's me and Riley I ride horses, motorcycles sometimes, everyone's fucking hot and my parents aren't fucking housewives who gives a fuck who needs that? Working actor here on an episode to Law and Order. Yeah. God, this guy just drives me nuts because he really he does really remind me of a teenager playing an adult in a school play and just watching him do all these very young actorly things. Yeah. Oh my god. He is acting like a really famous actor. He's like, yeah, thanks for asking me. That was a good shoot. I didn't really know if I wanted to work with him again, but I did.

21:05Ronnie Karam: I did. I'm really glad he took the plunge. Yeah. He's really he's so annoying he's got self-satisfied yes he's got some confidence that's for sure i don't know who gave it to him but god they they gave him a lot of it he just his whole energy is that he's on a press junket for some you know spy kids seven movie coming out and he's like oh god please so um brooks is like arriving to girls night i feel so much better it's like going to be a better vibe my intuition's just like telling me yeah so then everyone is Amira's saying yeah everyone's a little drunk and then Shy's like oh hi I'm awkward Shy I don't know what to do with my arms so I'm just gonna move herky-jerky and like what's going on I don't even watch TV I don't even know what a table is like or a drink I don't know what's going on this world is crazy I'm Shy so he comes around and starts hugging people and it's on the opposite side of Riley and Riley's like Shy get around because I'm not getting around to you.

22:08And he's like, oh, what? And Amira goes, I love drunk Riley. And Georgia goes, yeah, I feel like Riley and I get along the most when you're drunk because then I'm like, you know what? Everything you're saying is so true, which is like a little passive aggressive. And so then Riley goes, well, give me a drink then. How about that? So Georgia gives Riley her drink. She's like, here, you can have my drink. And Riley's like, no, I'm not drinking a drink that you drank you probably have some ketamine in that thing and george is like ketamine like what what about ketamine like what and everyone's like oh god no this is not gonna go well so g is like

22:47Ronnie Karam: just everybody drink some water drink some water it's like no what do you know about ketamine it's like you when you're on it you know like i learned i've never been on drugs around you in my life i like that i like that answer it's like it's just not around you like i've never been on drugs around you yeah she's not denying ketamine denying ketamine near riley and she's like why is this coming up and riley's like you you're fucking crazy so george is like i literally have like no idea what provoked riley it's a very specific claim to make like you're a ketamine addict so i'm just like where are you hearing this from yeah i mean riley is definitely the one who is more belligerent in this situation.

23:32But Georgia was a little passive-aggressive when someone says, the only time we get along is when you're drunk, which is implying you're the difficult one here and you need to loosen up.

23:42Ronnie Karam: Well, Riley's been rolling her eyes at her all night, too, though. You know what I mean? Riley does not like Georgia, and she makes it very clear whenever they're out.

23:56Ronnie Karam: Riley's not innocent here. Yeah. so I think I just like to call out I'm saying I don't know that it was like a huge social crime of Georgia to be like well I love you when you're drunk so we actually get along you know oh I agree I think that I'm just saying I like to call out like Georgia can't act like she's totally innocent here but Riley's been kind of uphill all night long and she has been rolling her eyes and she's also been like annoying all of her friends so to the point where they all have to tell her do you need some water do you need some water do you need some water like if you're that person at the table that everyone has to ask you to drink some water then you are the problem so uh uh so george is like what like ketamine addict where are you hearing this from so shy is like everyone's basically just trying to just like mollify they're like hey georgia like don't just don't worry about it don't worry like don't just let riley be you know and don't give it any fuck up yeah how about that shut the hell up yeah it's like shut the hell up georgia and she's like uh why but why is ketamine coming up i'm like genuinely curious like shut up just shut up just shut up like but like curious like why it's ketamine like that's like so specific i like georgia how she just like drops her jaw and like dead eyes you she's like yeah she's like but like why why and ariana's like um okay just drink some water drink some water everyone drink some water and riley's like be quiet shut the fuck up shut the fuck up and i was watching this i was like candy will not be happy with riley candy will be so mad that riley is being belligerent like drunk and blittering because candy does not drink you know and i think one of the reasons why candy doesn't drink is she doesn't the potential to become out of control.

25:49Not that Riley is out of control, but Riley is being, she's not being her best self right now, and I think that Candy is really, I think she has said that in the past. One of the reasons why she doesn't drink is because of that. She wants to be sort of in control of her emotions. So I was like, oh, she's going to hear it from Candy, I guarantee. I just didn't expect it to happen on the same episode.

26:09Ronnie Karam: So Riley gets up and she puts her hand in George's face And she's like, shut up. And they're like, whoa, whoa, Riley, Riley, it's okay. And she's still going, shut up, shut up. And Amira's like, okay, let's just move on to a new topic. Guys, let's move on. And Brooks is like, what's even going on? Like, at no point were any of these techs telling me we're at a table outside fighting. All right, and I was like, um, can everybody take a shot with me of water? Let's do water shots, guys. Water shots. Yeah. And Amira's like, yeah, a shot of water. It's like the new thing. And Riley goes, yeah, well, I know you're not part of this, Cheers, because you can't even afford a Birkin.

26:49Ronnie Karam: Oh. Oh, Riley. Last episode was the one where she's like, oh, my God, who takes the subway in New York City? Yeah, Candy is going to be, Candy is not going to be happy. Ariana's like, I can't afford a Birkin, to be quite honest. I'm like, well, Ariana, we know. We see what's going on with your mom. and then Ava is like they're all like yeah me neither me neither like let's just be nice okay let's be nice and Rowan's like that's just rude yeah so they're all like really upset and they're like they're trying to kind of like I think they're also kind of embarrassed because they know they're on TV and there's like they're in a group where someone's like bragging about affording a Birkin and they're like no like can we like not talk about this like that's really mean Riley yeah I think uh they someone needs to just get Riley home like at some point you need to be like oh no no my friends have dragged me out of places and guess what i've dragged my friends out of places like that's what you have to do when it's time it's time you know yeah and at one point she picks up a glass right yeah i think was this before is this after i think it's coming up in a little bit um so georgia is like this is what i've been dealing with for two fucking years and eva's like i think she's just drunk so that again it's like drink some water drink some water drink some water and george is like this is the energy she gives me all the fucking time it's so annoying okay so then ariana's like you want some pizza how about some pizza want some pizza and george is like i don't know like i feel like with like riley like and nothing i do get through like i do feel like this crew is like very loyal to riley like i've ignored all the little slights and all the eye rolls and i've ignored the whispering and i've ignored the sneers and like no one's like hey are you okay i think like i just have to like i don't know i have thick skin, but it's just ridiculous.

28:39Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so they go to get pizza, and Brooks is complaining about the other place. And so Ariana's like, where are the boys? Where did Charlie go? And he just shakes his head. And he's like, I'm just emotionally maxed out tonight. Brooks has had to do nothing this night, by the way. He's had to go play pool. He had to sit and watch Charlie play pool, and that's it. He didn't even have to have a confrontation or anything it's crazy that this is the kid of a real housewife especially one like meredith marx who is you know can really go off and he's like wow i just can't take this it's like too much for me yeah um so then uh gia is telling riley like so um i don't want you to look bad so like make up for it right now so like georgia i think that like riley just wants to like backtrack from what she said right riley and george is like no i mean it just i no i wasn't upset i just was like genuinely curious you know about like why are you bringing up ketamine usage with me and riley's like why would you even bring up ketamine usage and they're like you brought it up they're all telling girl like you did it and riley's like uh relax before i slap this piece a pizza on your face.

29:56Ronnie Karam: She's like, oh, God, there we go. There we go. She's Jordan. Yeah. What did you say, bitch? And Georgia's like, oh, wow. Wow. There we go. And Riley goes, I'll show you. She's like, wait. Look straight, though. Look straight. Oof. And so Riley looks straight at her. And Amira's like, Georgia, stop now. And then Riley picks up a glass. She's going to throw the drink. and everybody's like, whoa, whoa, Riley, whoa, whoa. But she doesn't throw it like she's going to throw the drink. She picks it up like she's going to throw the glass. She holds it up like a baseball. So then everyone's like, ah, you know?

30:34And they're like, no, Riley, no, no, no. It's like, it's not worth it. So then Riley puts it down right away. And it's just like, so George is like, oh my god, what am I supposed to do? Take it all fucking night? This is ridiculous. So they finally drag her out of there. And Ariana's like Come on, come on, get over here And Gio's like, okay, this is like It reminds me of a scene from Real Housewives of New Jersey Right? Gosh, we get it The show I'm on My mother

31:07Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and she's like Well, I know that my family Has a habit of Fighting, but like This So we see a bathroom door and we hear everybody inside the bathroom and riley's like this bitch oh my god okay everybody talk to my boyfriend while i pee and it was like hi this is ava and brooks and amira and ariana we're in the bathroom with riley they're like i think she wants to go home yeah we met her boyfriend last week by the way and um they went on a date and basically riley spoke the hotel the whole time and he just stared at her so then outside rowan they're just like they're just sort of all like they're they're all gathering themselves after this thing and rowan's like do you guys want anything can i get you guys anything and they're like how about therapy it's like oh my god or she says how about therapy like there's not enough therapy in the world so uh riley is still grumpy coming out of the bathroom she's like i hate this ariana's like hey what you know i always get curved as if like i'm like i always get like people always think like i'm the drunk and like you're the cool friend and i it's like him being like okay like can i help like riley you are the drunk everyone has had to give you water it was funny that she how they were describing them because it is true she's like i'm the drunk you're the cool friend and brooks just being like so funny and amira's like is that brooks and brooks is like yes girl read me down she's like yeah and then it's just you like giving a random comment it's always that And Amira goes, not random comment.

32:50So I hate it. Let me call myself an Uber. So Amira's like, people get heated, but just like we need to get together, guys. Like, did everyone just like not take their meds today? So they finally get Riley into her car. And it's like, okay, good. Like this nightmare can now be, we can close this national nightmare. Yeah.

33:12Ronnie Karam: So now it's a new day and we, the headlines are coming up. Riley. You know, Riley almost threw a glass. Apparently Riley and Georgia got into a heated altercation. She tried to throw a glass. Riley doesn't seem to be the type of... We see someone like, Riley doesn't seem like that type. I mean, she just seems so poised. So the whole world is abuzz. Yes. About a glass that almost got thrown. So we land with Rowan and her boyfriend having breakfast. And Rowan's like, I haven't known these girls as long as other people have. intentions are obviously much higher when alcohol is involved. It's like, great observation, Rowan.

33:50And then we go over to Ava and Amira and Liam, and they're like, wow, that was crazy. And Liam's like, going into Girls' Night and seeing Ariana? Like, time just stopped for me, which is hard because I'm an actor. I'm always on the move. But I was kind of like oblivious to whatever else was going on. I couldn't even read the sides from my audition.

34:09Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And it's just all their reactions of these headlines, you know? Amira's like, not a headline. Oh, no. And Ariana's like, oh, my God, Mrs. Burris is going to be so mad. She's going to be so mad. I already know. So then we go to Riley, and she's at a coffee shop or something FaceTiming with Candy, and Candy's like, Riley Burris, why are you all over the internet? What the hell are you doing over there? And Riley's like, oh my gosh, people have their speculations. She goes, I don't want to speculate. I want to hear from you, Riley. She's like, obviously there are better ways to handle situations, so that's how I feel.

34:53She goes, is that your politically correct answer? She goes, well, no, I feel like it makes sense. She's like, don't tell me about just what makes sense. Tell me exactly what happened. I was like, oh, I love this version. This is my favorite candy where she's like, don't fuck around with me. Okay? I brought you into this world and I will take you out of it.

35:13Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Riley's like, well, people trigger me sometimes, but Ward shouldn't be able to. She goes, who triggers you and why? And she's like, Georgia. And she's really good at it. And she goes, okay, well, then what did she say that triggered you to that point? You know, they said online that you threw a glass. And she's like, no way. No, I did not throw a glass. and so Riley says she feels a lot of pressure because she's even though she's young and people make mistakes you know she doesn't really get to learn and live and grow because it's going to be out there forever I mean you're right but also get off tv too you know I know yeah and she's like there's just some things that we got to learn through and like go through the motions and learn from our mistakes and should never have gotten to that point and it won't happen again and Candy's like yeah i'm gonna need you to start letting me know yourself when things happen because i don't have somebody else send me articles about my child i don't like that yeah oh i mean i feel bad for rally because i like riley you know i like rally but she's like she was wrong on this one but i still like riley you know well us liking rally has nothing to do with her being right or wrong she was she was considerably like drunker than everyone else and she was also the testiest of everyone and it just like you got to learn how to drink you know she's young i like i i give her i'm not being as hard on her as i am on other people on bravo because at 23 you're still learning how to drink etc but like you know she's got she just had a lot of things at one time because it's like the drunken thing and then it's the glass thing and it's the getting in someone's face thing and then it's the you don't the birkin thing you know like you can't even buy a birkin and like who even takes the subway it's just so much into one episode or like two episodes you know it's like a tight space that all this stuff is just crammed in there it's oh no i think it's with riley is that like she has had a harder life than i think sometimes we remember you know like yes she was you know she had immense privilege you know because her mom was very wealthy and all that but she has a really like bad relationship with her dad like the kind that really affects a kid i mean that dad what was his name i'm blanking on his name block it's on their block yeah terrible and And we saw her literally grow up and we saw the pain that he caused her.

37:42And I would not be surprised if there's a lot of storminess on the inside that she deals with because of that. And so to see her get drunk and to sort of act out is like what you don't want is this to be like, you know, you don't want it to be like a self-medicating situation. I'm definitely not calling her an alcoholic or anything like that. But meaning that she's got stuff going on on the inside, and I'm hoping that she's taking care of it.

38:10Ronnie Karam: It's so funny how different we are. Because, I mean, I feel for her. My feeling is, like, I just feel bad for her because she's getting drunk. Like, I mean, I did this all the time, especially at that age. I'd just be out drunk saying whatever, you know? And then my friends and I having to save each other for whatever was going on. I just feel bad for her because it's on TV. It's like this is just so much in one little space that you're going to have everybody watching this show being on your ass, you know, because this whole season really is about how they're like suddenly famous. And of course, they're really overplaying their fame here, you know.

38:49Ronnie Karam: Yeah. But they're like, we are like world famous now. And it's like so different being famous. But it's about how it affects them all. And just knowing that like the next day it's already in all of the headlines and she's already having to deal with all that shit and then it's going to air again. So, I mean, I feel as the person who did drink too much when they went out and partied and then would get sassy. Oh, my God. Thank God that I wasn't on TV. Thank God we didn't even really have social media to this point that we do today where shit wasn't recorded, you know, because yikes. Seriously. But I had a lot of friends who were super annoying drunks at 23, and then they all became like normal fun drunks.

39:32But like sometimes you just have to like learn how to handle yourself even when you're drunk.

39:43Ronnie Karam: One thing my mom loves is to bargain hunt. She will go to a garage sale, to a flea market, any old sale at the mall. I'm taking her from sale to sale to sale to sale. And I finally found someplace online that I can just park her and she'll have the time of her life. And that is Whatnot. Whatnot is an app that does live shopping. There's a whole community there on Whatnot. You're connecting with sellers and other shoppers. And it's kind of like hanging out with a group that gets you. And this is like a really fun way to shop. You never pay full price there. You can shop name brands across makeup, perfume, clothes, handbags, jewelry, and more, all without the sticker shock.

40:24Ronnie Karam: It's the best place to find great deals on products you love. And there are amazing sellers with great, great taste, and they're going live all the time, like 24-7. You can comment in real time, and they'll just show you a close-up of clothes. You'll be like, hey, can I see that a little bit closer? I want to see that detail on that shirt. And they will show it to you because it's real time. And you can sell, too. Do you have clothes, bags, or accessories sitting in your closet that you don't reach for anymore? WhatNot makes it easy to turn them into cash, connect with shoppers who share your style, and have fun going live while doing it.

40:55It's amazing what you can find on there. I literally just purchased a mid-century modern dance yellow paella pan for$35, and I've seen it listed elsewhere on the internet for$80. It was a bargain.

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41:48Every time I go, I get my Delta headphones. And when I fly to Europe, Delta treats me like a queen and they'll treat you too. I was always a little nervous about navigating a foreign country, but then I realized it's so important to grow and see different cultures and to put yourself in different situations. And Delta held my hand the whole time. Being away just helps you put life into perspective and your little worries are not so bad travel really is the best way to discover something new about yourself and grow from the experience step outside your comfort zone this summer get some delta headphones and fly with delta airlines they truly are the best way to get to europe and they just make the whole journey feel so comfortable and seamless go book your next chapter right now at delta.com

42:38Ronnie Karam: speaking of things you have to learn sourdough i'm making my third sourdough of the week go pick up your fucking shipment in texas get in the car and go pick up your shipment that has been shipped to your your boyfriend's u-haul rental or whatever sir well with my brand i've had multiple launches but i've never had a launch get delayed as much as this one and my parents are like still investors in my company and this resort collection launch is extremely imperative so that like i can give them back their investment so he starts to facetime with meredith marks and he's like hi icon did you had you already have your san diego dj set which is like the funniest thing you could ever see to your mom especially when your mom's meredith the meredith has just become this jet-setting DJ.

43:32Ronnie Karam: It's hilarious. And he's like, no, actually, I'm flying there tomorrow. And he's like, well, should we have a little section at my pop-up of Meredith Marks DJ Lux? She goes, wait a minute, where's your pop-up? I'm thinking either Hudson Yards or Soho. I was, like, feeling a bit stuck with things and, like, sometimes I don't believe in myself and sometimes I'm, like, really scared that I'm going to fail. And even, like, saying that out loud it scares me. I get like, you just have to believe in yourself. It's not that hard. If you believe in yourself, you'll succeed. He's like, not that hard, please.

44:10Which was funny because it was so rosy. Also funny that he's like, I don't know if my luxury pop-up is going to be in Soho or Hudson Yards. And I'm just so anxious about it. Like, it's hard to even say it out loud because it's so scary. Where's my pop-up going to be?

44:29Ronnie Karam: where's my luxury resort wear pop-up gonna be we need to look up brooks mark brooks marks brooks marks resort where let's see um oh that's wait is this brooks marks or these oh no that's that shopping where they're just like oh we'll show you things that are like resort where you know i'm dying because i went to his website brooks marks and he has a tab for resort and it's like almost all of it is like um sweatsuit and then there's like there's some shorts at the bottom but all of it like when i think of resort where i'm thinking of like shorts and like button down like like what do camp shirts you know or like the matching the matching shorts and silk shirts that are like patterned you know these are literally hoodies they're like how to cover up your entire body if you're sitting on a chaise lounge these are literally sweater hoodies these are not resort wares and it says resort universal hoodie in moonlight what resort are you going to it's sweatpants and hoodies oh my gosh in very you know solid colors with no patterns well there's a velvet i mean they're cute they're cute and i like the little tote bags but like but like you know what if you want to go someplace that's warmer than 70 degrees resort where this shit's funny oh i guess now that i look at it the material is like towel material i think yep okay but still it's like velvety i still would want some more short sleeve options.

46:09I'm glad that he has shorts, at least. But, like, can we get something for the arms?

46:14Ronnie Karam: Oh, my gosh. And little bags, like little man bags. I'm in. Okay. I'll buy some. I have a sweatsuit somewhere. Someone get this. Wait, do I still have that? Anyway, the point is I'm just cracking up. It's not that it's not cute. It's just that it's so Brooks to be like, I'm creating a resort wear and then you look it up and it's hoodies. Yeah. Hoodie sweaters. Sweatshirts. When you want to hide from other tourists that your parents made you sit nearby. Resorts. Never show your wrists. Wow. Okay. Well, tell me, how is everyone else in your world? And she's like, everyone's good. I mean, there was like a guy's night and a girl's night and I went to guy's night and like, I was like, I know that Charlie was, like, texting people saying, like, tell Brooks to keep my name out of his mouth.

47:09Oh, and what did he actually say to you? Well, he was, like, completely normal, which was, like, very confused by. Oh, well, he has no way of understanding what's going on here. That's the problem. Would I love to say, you know, like, you know what? People grow. Yes. And in fact, while we were sitting here on this call, I got a text from Angie K. Now, apparently, she thought I was the Greek consulate, but still, that's all

47:35Ronnie Karam: that matters. Alright, you know, I mean, I don't need to read the Angie K text right now, but I mean, okay, my husband's not gay, you goddamn bitch, I hope you rot in hell. Okay, well, can people change? Will they change? I don't know. See, the point is, wiggy wiggy, I'm a DJ. It's just nice to know that my number is saved on her phone. So, So then she's like, he's like, Mom, it's like too much. He's like done way too many things that I'm not going back on. Well, you don't have to align, but you guys are in a place where you're going to cross over. And you have mutual friends together. And from my personal experience, it's best to just be direct.

48:23Disengaging is not about avoiding conflict or avoiding communication. it's about timing and not about walking away even though there's a lot of footage of me most likely walking away have you ever seen an icon walking through the streets of Santorini alone because that's what you would see with me

48:40Ronnie Karam: if you're gonna walk away you need to shake your head furiously while saying I'm disengaging this was so funny and I love the life lesson from Meredith disengaging is not about not communicating okay and he's like well i feel like i've been lied to my whole life like i thought like i knew what disengaging was 100 and like what leads up to disengaging is like a preamble of engaging like by definition i've been disassociating it's the deepest conversation i love it and she's like just be direct and tell them you've been disrespectful to my family you've been disrespectful to my friends you've been disrespectful to my mother's bathtub and you do your thing and i'll do my thing leave it yeah so then brooks is like i guess i'll let him know so brooks has learned the lesson that if you want to disengage you have to be engaged first she's like uh don't you want to be on this tv show you need to have conversations you just can't keep running away from the cameras so then we have this really douchey moment where a private plane lands and hudson and his business partner danny step off of it and get into like a into like a car kind of driven into the city and hudson has all his jewelry on and he is it's so funny because we always knew he was a billionaire heir and um he wore you know a good amount of jewelry last season but he was more or less just like this nice guy that was like oh you would never know that he was a billionaire's son unless you looked at his jewelry you know he just seems like a nice guy but this year now that he is got some fame in him now that he's single he is fully fully fully billionaire air douchebag coated yes hilarious if he was wearing a floor-length fur right now i would not be surprised with like big diamond chains and he's in this like limo that's led lit on the inside like tom sandoval designed I was like, yeah, it's my business partner, my BP, Danny.

50:52So what is their business? I mean, it is very gossip girly. It really does remind me of how like there was a season where Chuck Bass, you know, after they graduated from high school, they were in college. They were like all going to NYU or Columbia and Chuck Bass like takes over his dad's hotel. And there was like endless episodes where he has to save a hotel. But you have this like 19 year old running a hotel. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. but they have like they're just sort of pretending to be adults in fact that whole show is always them in high school going up to like martini bars and drinking cocktails like they were sophisticated you know 40 things but they're like 17 and that's just what hudson is like he's like look at me my business partner's here private jet i was like okay you can't even rent a car

51:39Ronnie Karam: yeah wait what do you mean oh you're not even old enough to be 25 to rent a car I don't know, are those old rules? Does Turo work the same way? Who knows? Anyway, he's really douchey So he calls Charlie And he's like, yeah, long after Just made it back there, finally He's like, yeah, dude Glad you're back, it's been so dark without you Fucking Charlie So he's like, yeah, you know The intention of flying back is to see everybody Check in, you know Just went to Atlanta a little bit I've got this huge apartment in New York, though what am I supposed to do? Just let it sit there? Wasting money? Now you're concerned about wasting money while you're wearing like all this unnecessary jewelry and flying a private plane around just to go from Atlanta to New York.

52:27Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So, yeah. So they go play pool brah. Yeah.

52:35Ronnie Karam: Charlie's like, I can beat you. And Hudson's like, all right, let's put a hundred bucks on it then. Whoa, whoa. Not with Charlie. Charlie's the poor one. Charlie got caught in the crypto torture apartment or whatever the hell's going on. By the way, they're really letting Charlie off with that. Just being like, okay, we don't have to talk about it. Well, I think they know that he's never going to talk about it. And they do bring it up every chance that they can get. Every chance that they can get, they show that shot of Charlie outside the crypto torture apartment. And they circle his face and sometimes give him an arrow.

53:06They're like, he was there, he was there, he was there. so like they definitely are not shy about that it happened but they but you're right no one is like pressing him about it and i don't know why i feel like there should be more conversations

53:19Ronnie Karam: yeah guys at a place that he was at all the time and stayed at they kidnapped a guy and tortured him for his his bitcoin wallet address or password yeah and stuff and he's just like whatever They're like, okay, whatever. I can't talk about it. It's a legal proceeding. Weird. Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one of a two-part recap. For part two, go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers. Watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alison King. Our way is the Amber way. It's the Foster and the Furious. It's Amanda Foster.

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