#3473 Next Gen NYC S2E05 Part 2: Riff Raff and Horror Shows

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2:25Ben Mandelker: There's so much that happens.

2:28Ronnie Karam: Well, hello and welcome to What's What Happens. This is part two.

2:33Ben Mandelker: Okay, Amira's saying hi to everyone, saying hello. And she's like, she's Charlie in his vest. And she's like, what are you supposed to be? He's like, yeah, I just do want a bulletproof vest. I don't have much costume worthy clothes. You know, I wasn't going to just buy a fucking horse suit. So I just filled in my eyebrows a little bit to give myself a Frida Kahlo look and, you know, bulletproof vest and thought, this is my look. Here I am.

3:01Ronnie Karam: And Amira's like, well, I mean, I'm a little overdressed for this. I'm wearing couture, honey. Okay. Guess I'll just pick my gown up off the floor. So Kevin, her boyfriend, says hi to Brooks. And he's like, are you supposed to be Elvis? is wearing this like Amazon sparkly jacket which I know because I've bought that off of Amazon and he's like um like no it's just like supposed to be Rocky Mountain horror chocolate shop or whatever I love chocolate

3:35Ben Mandelker: and then uh Rowan is like everyone this is my boyfriend Brian so this is Rowan's boyfriend who is in real estate and she's like yeah we met in a basement in a fraternity freshman year of college and he's like can i get you a drink and i'm like you mean from the pile of lukewarm natty lights that i can reach for myself and then i got myself a lukewarm beer and the rest is history and so this guy it's just again it's so it's so funny he looks like he's 14 years old but he comes in with the attitude of like a josh altman he's like hey what's going on everyone what's going on and they're like oh so how long have you guys been dating he's like four years in about a week like do you have a ring plan?

4:13Ben Mandelker: He's like, who else? Yeah. Yeah.

4:17Ronnie Karam: Meanwhile, George is talking to, uh, Gia and Ariana and she's like, you guys, I like throwing that guy. I like, it really hurts. I think it's cause I gave my boyfriend so much head.

4:31Ben Mandelker: And, um, Rowan's like, Oh my God, our friends are so crazy. Brian's going to have to make his own assumptions. We'll talk about it on the subway ride home. Uh, Christian did not come out tonight because he's still traumatized from the awful boys night that he was forced to go to and so Gia just didn't even bother inviting him this time and then um uh Ava comes up and she's

4:53Ronnie Karam: like yeah so I saw that Hudson like posted on his story like some lyrics like just went through a breakup she's like oh my god I honestly don't care I'm happy she's like good like maybe I'm almost there too like I'm so excited with my new apartment and like I'm still together with Hook but like I have like I don't know like instincts that maybe you're right

5:18Ben Mandelker: something check in next week she's like basically like he was gone he was like shooting a film I mean it was like a movie it was a short film and um I haven't gotten to see him since he's been gone and then I don't know I just have a gut feeling basically it sounds like he came back from the shoot and she hasn't heard from him since he's been since he's been back and she's like something is afoot.

5:41Ronnie Karam: Well, you shouldn't date a guy named after the villain Peter Pan. What do you think is going to happen? Yeah.

5:49Ben Mandelker: Now, if his name was Hook with an S, like Hooks, I'd be like, go all in. Anyone named after the late great Jan Hooks is going to be a prize.

5:58Ronnie Karam: Oh, yeah. I thought you were like, wow, anybody named after something so useful, how else would I hang my sweater? All of the above. Yeah. Now there's a classic.

6:10Ben Mandelker: So now there's a fortune teller moment. There's a fortune teller in the corner who I believe is also the realtor in France who shows up on House Hunter as international with a beret anytime any American goes to Nice or Paris. Right? That is so accurate.

6:28Ronnie Karam: I was like, who is she? Who is she? That's her. That's her. And she wears like a little matching beret to whatever her outfit is.

6:36Ben Mandelker: Yes. she also may have been in my synagogue growing up and she also may be like a third cousin of mine like she fits all those categories for me but anyone who's watched house hunters international or was a fan of dwell hello when we were doing it anytime they did anytime they continue to do an episode in especially the south of france there's this one realtor who looks just like this fortune teller uh who wears a little beret honestly it could be the same person because they have the same face. I'm convinced that it's the same person.

7:07Ronnie Karam: She looks exactly like her. And she's doing the kind of usual psychic thing where she's like, oh, all right, come on, have a seat, honey. Oh, my God. Let me tell you this much. You occasionally get anxiety when things are getting stressful. Yes or no? They're like, oh, my God. She is so good.

7:33Ben Mandelker: uh she i know they really loved her very basic reads she's like okay here's what here's what i'm getting you wake up in the morning you're often hungry in the morning because you haven't had breakfast yet is that oh my god she's totally i i usually am hungry in the morning wow uh the realtor's name is adrian leads uh as you're watching with um with crappens on demand i will uh i'll show you uh an image of her which is a or a google search of her you will see if you can remember this this uh this person this is just nothing but adrian leads here on screen This is the person. All her matching berets.

8:20Ben Mandelker: All these berets.

8:22Ronnie Karam: Just the best. Just the best. That's funny. That is exactly this woman. Yep. So Brooks gets his turn with her, and she's like, Oh, honey, you're so hot on yourself. And he's like, Wait, how did you know that? I'm very sensitive to energy. also you keep flicking yourself in the knee and you're exfoliating your face while we talk

8:49Ben Mandelker: do you know what the rocky horror picture shop is she's like oh toots toots yeah you're too young for this stuff um so then uh across the across the room uh the kids are looking at the fortune teller and rowan is like she's from like the 19th century i mean i was like 19th century She's like, is that not right now? She's like, no, it's like 1800s. And they're just all confused. They just give up. They're like, we can't do centuries.

9:22Ronnie Karam: So Charlie sees the psychic and he's like, Jesus fuck. I've dealt with a lot of fucking psychics being thrown at me. Okay. That whole world triggers me. It's all nonsense. Okay. It's like gongs. Gongs are awesome.

9:35Ben Mandelker: Yeah. They show him encountering various psychics from last season and not enjoying the process.

9:42Ronnie Karam: That psychic last season was good. Trying to get him on the way out of Gia's party or whatever in Jersey or Teresa's house in Jersey. I think they were in the campus or something. Oh, they were. I don't remember. Yeah, you're right. I don't know. Or Charlie's dad's house. Weren't they at Charlie's dad's house? They were at Charlie's dad's house. Yeah,

10:04Ben Mandelker: like in Darien or something. yeah it was like it was like his they were someone's friend yeah they had a psychic and

10:11Ronnie Karam: she's like honey can i talk to you i've really got to talk he's like nope nope nope declined

10:17Ben Mandelker: it's like really but i have an energy he's like noob oh he's like yeah i'm not gonna do this so then ava's talking to brooks and she's like hey how's everything he's like oh my god you look so cute like you literally have a spider web in your hair i can't she's like wait though so you didn't tell me that you actually ran away from charlie that's what people are saying i didn't

10:42Ronnie Karam: run away well no i don't run running no yeah i've never run in my life so no absolutely not so this is amira and ava trying to convince him that he needs to talk to charlie and he's like no, but you have to you need to be the bigger person we're on TV, so you're going to have to eventually have a scene Brooks, okay, that's not just involving putting on facials or making sourdough bread, and he's like, okay I'll do it, but I'm not going to ride on a scooter like we did back in the day, like back in the way past it's like 2023 clip of that thing on a scooter

11:24Ben Mandelker: back in the 19th century so he's like, if someone searches my brand being that it's like self-titled my name will come up with his name and it's just like really frustrating okay i'm like this is the thing that's gonna hurt your brand so amira's like well whatever but you're friends with him you skateboarded with him or or scootered with him he's like yeah i'm not gonna do that ever again so eva's like look you're not like you're don't worry it's not gonna turn into a yelling yelling match charlie's not gonna yell either okay and like just get it over with okay it's okay it's okay to have this conversation so they basically

12:07Ronnie Karam: talk him into it she's like i can even go over there with you if you want and he's like i don't want to i don't want to do this okay i'll go do it they can't crush it baby so he comes up and then he just he sort of walks to charlie and then chickens out and goes to the bar instead oh my Oh my God, Brooks. Jesus. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

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14:22Ben Mandelker: So then Liam goes over to sit with Kendall. Kendall, who is about to say her first lines this season. And he's like, hey, how you doing? Good. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. So Liam's like, you know, unlike an actor, Kendall doesn't say a lot. I can read her face, though. She's having fun. The way that she's sitting there with a straight, almost frown face on, that's her having fun. You know, Kendall's like a nice aioli, an herb garlic aioli, because I'm not just an actor. I'm someone who enjoys food. And, you know, like aioli, it's not always present, but when it's there, it's there. And you're like, oh, that's a good aioli.

15:03Ben Mandelker: Well, I'm really sure this girl loves being compared to a yellow mayonnaise.

15:11Ronnie Karam: listen i've heard a lot in my life i've never heard somebody say yeah they're like an aioli

15:19Ben Mandelker: really good ioli who says that what not a compliment it's not don't call someone an aioli or an aioli is it ariana or ariana aioli or aioli whatever it is i only don't are i don't are only

15:39Ronnie Karam: so he's trying to make small talk and this is like one of his best friends but she's just like um something did somebody fart like she just has like somebody farted face and doesn't have anything to say so he's like did you even talk to charlie and then they now they get everyone else's opinions on her and charlie's like yeah she seems like watching paint dry frankly like literally she's like a shadow like i don't even realize she's there

16:07Ben Mandelker: they convert her on screen into a shadow there's i feel like the producers were so angry i feel like the producer liam was like hey i've got let me bring my friend kendall on to this uh onto the show she's so great i think she'll mix really well and the producers are probably like who is this fucking dud we're turning her into a shadow for America. Yeah.

16:29Ronnie Karam: So Shia's like, yeah, I think that she's in love with Liam. So they're betting on that. And Charlie's like, yeah, Las Vegas is putting down that she's in love with him at a minus. They show a shadow

16:43Ben Mandelker: with a minus. Whatever the sports betting, whatever it means.

16:47Ronnie Karam: That's something to this girl.

16:48Ben Mandelker: This girl's done literally nothing to anybody and they're just dragging her. They just, out of nowhere, first she gets called an aioli by the by this person who's actually in her corner and then the other people just like yeah she's just a shadow i've forgotten about shadow we don't even

17:05Ronnie Karam: know she's there oh so now uh liam comes up to shy and charlie it's like hey guys actor here we good we good guys we good on set okay like what are you talking about it's like well you know like how you said it was weird i'm trying to talk to ariana blah blah blah i'm just trying to fuck you know you remember all that stuff and they're like oh oh no he's i'm sorry first he's telling

17:30Ben Mandelker: uh kendall all this stuff and she's like yeah they said all of that stuff he's like yeah yeah yeah like and like it's like i mean like me and chive like only hang out like a couple of times you know and like it's like not even been significant because you know what they say like whatever happens on set does not happen in real life right it's just the actor's life you know what I'm saying yeah I don't know it's just like weird yeah yeah okay well um I don't know what something about you Kendall that makes me want to have some french fries and just poke them in your face strange never mind anyway uh so this whole thing just like sucks man because I'm just like trying to be part of this group and now all of a sudden like they don't like me anymore so like it's weird right you know yeah am I talking too close to you yeah he like talks really close

18:16Ronnie Karam: to my face. We find out Liam is an extreme close face talker. Extremely close face talker. That's his thing. It gets right up in your face. And she's like, gross. It's really gross. So now Brooks finally goes up to Charlie and says hello for their big confrontation. He's like, can I chat with you for a sec? Because I just want to have a really chill conversation. I don't want to get contentious. And he goes, what you don't want to get pretentious is that what you just said he's like no contentious my god you're getting so pretentious over contentious i can't you know we haven't really been talking

18:57Ben Mandelker: that much the past year like i've been walking everywhere on my feet no scooters and i just it's like we sort of drifted and stuff he's like yeah i think you like behave like a little bit more like immaturely like i just don't want to have to like walk into a fucking room and have you be like giggling and making things like any more awkward than they already are and and it basically tells us like yeah brooks's discomfort is like visible around me and i like makes me feel uncomfortable and then like you know if you wince it's okay but like once once more it's like shame on you once five times like you're doing too much brooks is like that like if he doesn't like somebody he's

19:34Ronnie Karam: just like oh my god i can't i can't uh and it's really weird to kind of be on charlie's side for something brooks is really like this and brooks is like but like i literally have a nervous laugh though like it's like literal that i have it like i laugh you know like i can't i can't breathe It's my worst trait. And Charlie's like, yeah. And, you know, I was speaking to Shy. And the whole, like, I can't believe you guys are speaking was kind of awkward. And then I tried to, like, sort of neutralize that at the ping pong night. And then instead you're, like, sprinting down the street. He's like, please stop telling people that I run places because then they're going to expect me to run and I don't run.

20:22Ben Mandelker: and Brooks goes I just like really hit my max that night to be honest he's like I hit my max last season every fucking night I had to speak to Chloe I had to speak to your fucking dad I just speak to everyone I just would like I'd be like if you just like show me the respect and courtesy of behaving as though like I'm not someone you're trying to make feel uncomfortable honestly I believe it or not I actually feel like Charlie is this is like a reasonable request That's for Charlie. I think Charlie's like, can you like not like giggle at me and run away from me and make me feel like an ogre? Charlie is like a piece of shit.

20:56Ben Mandelker: Don't get me wrong. But like, I think he's just basically saying, can you just like, you don't have to like me, but can you not like make me feel like the turd that I am?

21:08Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Or like ostracize or whatever.

21:11Ben Mandelker: Yeah.

21:11Ronnie Karam: And I mean, if we're all going to have to hang out, like, can we just be decent to each other and you not be like. like whispering at people and then running away. And he's like, but like, why would I do that? If you're like sending messages, quasi threatening that I should keep your name out of my mouth. And so we see the clip of Gia tattletailing because her boyfriend tattletailed. And he's like, what? Sending messages, quasi threatening. What are you talking about? Have you heard about the videos where I actually threatened somebody? Like you would be missing an ear right now.

21:48Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And he's like, Brooks is like, yeah, you said Brooks better keep my name out of his mouth. It's like a quasi threat. He goes, okay, well, I'm quasi sorry. And so Ava is like, wow, look, they're talking for so long. I didn't expect it to go this long. And Ariana's very happy because she goes, Brooks seems like he's got it handled. Like, I feel like if he needs me, he'll give me a special look. But like, I'm just gonna like my own business and just like watch because the whole thing last year was that Brooks always needed to have backup. and now he's having a confrontation all by himself.

22:20Ronnie Karam: And Charlie says, we were just hanging out a few months ago. Why was that okay? But now, and he's like, well, wait, but that was like nine months ago. He's like, so okay. That was since last season though. And he goes, yeah, but that was February. He goes, okay, but that was more recently than the drama you're referencing. So what, does logic not track with you, Brooks? Hello? Like, why is nine months so long, but 12 months? And he's like, but we all saw the show air, though. And you were like disparaging. You were saying disparaging things about my dad, though. And he's like, fuck your dad, Brooks.

22:57Ronnie Karam: Like, do you think I'm happy with the things you idiot said about me? And he's like, are you kidding? Did you literally just say fuck my dad?

23:06Ben Mandelker: He's like, OK, this is ridiculous. Fucking your obsession with harping on that one note when we're having a larger conversation. How about that? Brooks goes, honestly, I'm so over this. I'm not doing this shit. Sorry for yelling so much. It's just not okay. I'm like, you just said fuck my dad. Like, my dad was the only person who tried to help you last year when you were acting a fool, okay? So you don't respect your own, so I don't know why you respect mine. Yeah, Charlie is such an asshole. My gosh.

23:36Ronnie Karam: You shouldn't say fuck your dad. Fuck your dad. Dummy. So Charlie goes, you have the best respect my dad on earth. Yeah, so he's like, okay, yeah, that might have... he's like okay maybe that was a little he's telling us okay maybe that was a little bit much okay sorry sorry seth okay he's like you've been nothing but nice to me sorry

23:58Ronnie Karam: so um char charlie's like i mean i walk into a room and he fakes me fucking uncomfortable just like by giggling because now ava's there and she's like well you guys are both uncomfortable and i think like the point is like you should both say like I'm sorry I make you uncomfortable and stuff. Yeah, sounds great. Do you know what's right outside my window right now? I don't know if you can hear it. A pigeon. The coyote. Just listen. Did you hear it? Oh, it's that bird that sounds like a high beeping. It sounds, you had it at your house. It's like a fire alarm when it runs out of batteries. Oh, you heard it at my place?

24:39Ben Mandelker: No, remember I was recording at your place because my internet was out. and I heard it and I thought something was happening in your house and it was the bird. It was the bird that sounds like a fire alarm. You know who doesn't sound like a fire alarm? Pigeons. Kat is the way on the defense of the pigeons. So Charlie is... It's just like a squeaky

24:58Ronnie Karam: a squeaky fence or a squeaky gate being... Beep. Beep. Beep. Oh, fucking bird. Okay, go ahead. I'm sorry. Birds are really getting it today. Sorry, birds. Birds are getting it everywhere.

25:10Ben Mandelker: So Ava's saying, like, look she's trying to help the situation and she's saying you want to just tell him like that you don't want to be as close to them anymore and that's fine brooks and maybe don't with the giggling because that really triggers him for some reason and charlie's like just like be fucking normal for the love of god i already have like georgia to deal with and george is like oh my god guys i think charlie's getting confronted by everyone right now i'm like not even joking kidding like i don't want to go over there to see charlie but like i'm very curious

25:39Ronnie Karam: um so shy's like don't forget to put on the pigeon hat so she does and charlie's still like i don't want to be haunted by multiple ghosts in a room you know like one is enough guys george is enough and so george ambles over there but she can't see through her pigeon mask she's like god i can't see anything well though so brooks is like yeah but like i feel like there's like an elephant in the room and it's up to you if you want to address that and um charlie's like okay whatever what are you talking about my spring oh you want to talk about my spring i love that's how he refers to it my spring my torturing charlie's like okay everyone open season any questions

26:24Ben Mandelker: right now and amira's like about what amira come on keep up so charlie goes this good good everyone get everyone over here okay okay questions anyone who wants to ask questions about the crypto shit okay i'm open for business one time only ask me anything you want i will give you an honest answer and you will get all your answers that you've ever wanted get it together right now so amira goes

26:44Ronnie Karam: okay we're like we're like friends so i'm gonna ask you this in a very friendly pr savvy way so you can answer it were you involved in any way in any of this crypto stuff he's like will not answer cannot answer absolutely not will not answer that like the it's like the number one question

27:03Ben Mandelker: and he's like okay guys all right all right here we go ask me anything anything at all were you cannot can't nope nope absolutely not nope have you but you just said any question he's like nope not gonna say anything ridiculous ridiculous question i'm not gonna say anything okay So Brooke's like

27:23Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but I've seen on like media It's like been insane and like I don't even know what's true and what's fake and Charlie's like, oh yeah, yeah, okay well, by the way, all due respect Ariana's on probation, why isn't anybody questioning her about that? She's like whoa, whoa, whoa, excuse me, I can hear you, he's like yeah, well I'm saying you're on probation and I have legal troubles too and she's like, um yeah, I should have just stayed at the bar drinking my sparkling water

27:51Ben Mandelker: our situations are not similar if you made a fucking what's it called a Venn diagram there would be nothing and we see a Venn diagram that says DUI and crypto torture and they overlap so then Brooks is like I care about my reputation so Ava's like what Charlie does is not a reflection of you Brooks think about the housewives think about your mom's show there was a lady that was arrested does that mean that your mom is a criminal too and you can see brooks is like uh i was like wow ava got you on that one

28:30Ronnie Karam: he just kind of shorts out a little bit like that or on that one he's like uh and then uh he's like but i like don't feel safe yeah he's like i don't like feel safe and she's like charlie's not gonna hurt you he goes oh yeah what do you think i'm gonna kidnap and torture you too soon

28:49Ben Mandelker: And then they all laugh. Like, no, I'm glad we can laugh about this now. So Ava's like,

28:54Ronnie Karam: What is Charlie possibly kidnapping and torturing somebody with a bunch of friends to get their Bitcoin wallet password? It's scary.

29:01Ben Mandelker: I don't. It's so weird. I just, I really want to hold my space. Because, well, if you want space, I'll be thrilled to give you space. And Ava's like, Well, what you said I think is very fair. And I think what you said is very fair. and I think you guys should just agree to be done and he's going to give you space and he's going to respect your boundaries and now you have to do the same and I'd like to conclude by saying your feelings are valid valid valid and valid valid you know and I hear you valid they shake hands and Brooke's like ew I feel like I made a deal with the devil

29:40Ronnie Karam: um so then Georgia is pissed off because she sees all these people making up well she's like wait a minute everybody's supposed to be against charlie and now everybody's making up what's going on and uh her friend cooper is like well honestly like they were just trying to keep you out of it so like that fight wasn't involving you she's like um whatever i don't give a fuck he fucked me over to an extent that is irreparable okay so i was like wait a minute i don't know if she's trying to say or irreparable or what or is that even a word look What's she talking about?

30:15Ben Mandelker: Oh, man. This is just the epitome of illiteracy here. That's what I've got to say.

30:25Ronnie Karam: Isn't it funny how it starts sticking in your head that way? Once you hear it on Bravo a couple of times or say it. Epitome. I've said epitome so many times in my life.

30:38Ben Mandelker: The epitome. It's a calm promise, as Jen would say from Love Island. So I love Shy getting all huffy about this. This will come back at the reunion, I'm sure. He's like, God, it just seems like, why is she trying to say irreparable that way? Irregardless, I'm sure that that's a word, but it's very serious. It seems like she's going to go to thesaurus and figure out more words that she can express her and Charlie are never going to be friends again. I love Shai. I feel like Shai was generally doing so well overall. He definitely got more involved than he should have been in this situation with Ariana.

31:22Ben Mandelker: This is his first major goof. Taking a big stance about Irreparable.

31:30Ronnie Karam: He's made some major mistakes this whole time because he's producer playing you know they're using him as the producers and he's letting them use him and he's just not going to end well for him never does well hopefully it's not a repairable damage so rowan and her boyfriend go talk to the uh fortune teller who gives them a bunch of nothing as usual and um george is like wait should we go see what what happened like we should go see like Like, everyone's making up with Charlie. We have to say, okay, BRB, BRB. We're going over there. Kendall, you stay here and do not say anything, but look like someone farted, okay?

32:11She's like, okay, good.

32:14Ronnie Karam: She's safe. So George is like, what the heck? Like, we went into the fall very aligned, and now Ava's, like, trying to broke her peace of cords. What is going on with her?

32:26Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's, like, not cool whatsoever. whatsoever um so she's really mad and uh she's uh so then we go back to shy and kendall and shy is like wow she's always on her own thing kendall's like she's so funny and so liam this is where liam sits down he's like hey bro uh you good man you good bro you good bro like i hope there's no bad there's no bad blood and shy's like um i don't know why there would be it's not like anything you know irreparable happened so liam's like well yeah i mean just like that conversation earlier i just like don't want it affect you know like me coming in and getting to know everyone like i still get to be a full-time cast member right i'm an actor like you can't not have me here pretty

33:09Ronnie Karam: cool pretty cool guy yeah it's like no no like everything's cool it's just like you know like maybe hudson might want to get to know you you know what i mean and he's like oh yeah well i'm gonna stand my ground because i'm a positive person and if we have a problem we're gonna have a problem i'm not afraid to get a little uh loud you know what i mean i project to the rafters as actors do i will be tough so want me to roll up my sleeves i will roll up my short sleeves that's what i'm gonna do don't you better fucking watch out i'm a i'm an actor i know how to use my

33:41Ben Mandelker: diaphragm is what i'm saying i've i played uh one of the guys from greece i know what to do you ever put a cigarette pack in your sleeve yeah it's an art so georgia is still talking to ava and

33:54Ronnie Karam: um ava's like well i mean charlie was just over there saying i don't want another georgia situation and georgia's like what do you mean i don't want another georgia situation like then don't be fucking horrible to people charlie i mean charlie's like a cult leader like it's a cult and i'm like the one standing over here like it's a cult you're in a cult guys but they're like

34:13Ben Mandelker: because I'm in a cult. Because they're in a cult. So Liam is still doing this whole thing of like, I'm here to get to know people, bro. Don't ask me out from the cast. Come on, man. I want to be one of the bros. And Shia's like, yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I love Ariana. Like, you seem like a great guy. And Ariana's like, I can hear you. This is like Ariana's entire episode. What were you saying about me? I hear you. She's like, she has the best hearing in this entire bar. This loud bar. She hears what everyone's saying. She keeps coming over and be like, what were you saying about me? What? Huh?

34:41Ben Mandelker: Huh? Say it louder.

34:45Ronnie Karam: So Shia's saying, well, I was just telling Liam, like retrospectively, like I feel guilty to Hudson because he's my friend. And just like, you know, like maybe I like setting something up. Like I shouldn't be setting it up. And she's like, wait, OK, but I've been closer with you a lot longer. And two, Hudson and I are broken up. And he's like, yeah, but like literally a couple of days ago, you know, like he was expressing like, by the way, Gia, sit down. She's like, I'm going to sit here on the arm of this couch in this yet another storyline that has nothing to do with me that I'm going to make about myself.

35:20Ronnie Karam: And it's like, but sit on the couch, though. She's like, no, I'm going to sit on the arm. They're like, sit down, Gia. It's like, no. He's like, sit down. She's like, yeah, this guy's like trying to get creepy with me on the couch.

35:32Ben Mandelker: But then she goes and she finally squeezes into the couch. She's like, yeah, this is too much. So she goes back to the arm. I'm like, the entire show. five minutes for Gia to get comfortable on the arm of the sofa. Yeah. So you want to let people tell you where to sit.

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37:59Ben Mandelker: So basically Ariana's like, it's not cool that you did all this stuff, okay? bro um and then meanwhile uh our brooks and eva are watching liam and ariana because ariana's sitting next to liam at this point telling talking to shy and brooks is like what would their couple name be would it be like liana what about like aria are are liam are liam it's like no liana yeah liana so it's been decided yeah but i think it doesn't have to be

38:33Ronnie Karam: like the same amount of syllables? Well, I guess it wouldn't be the way I'm doing. Liam, Liam, Iana? I don't know. I would call it... That's not the same amount of syllables anyway.

38:45Ben Mandelker: Liamana. I would say Liamana. I wouldn't do Liana. I would say Liamana.

38:50Ronnie Karam: Liamana sounds right to me. Arianelem? It's not a good couple, I think, because they don't have a name. They don't have like a couple name. What'd you say? Say it again. I was trying to... I like Liamana. liamana okay or liorana liorana yeah that works with the syllable scheme liorana okay damn it

39:10Ben Mandelker: what about just like lariana lariana is what it should be just keep it simple lariana lariana

39:17Ronnie Karam: just with the lariana you need to have more of the person's name in there but just not just the l

39:22Ben Mandelker: like bennifer bennifer i guess you get ben and jen that's it has overlap yeah i don't know i like lariana okay this show's too stupid to be talking about this at an hour and 70 so we go back to amira and she's like hey charlie um i want to get to the bottom of something here so um i was talking to georgia and basically last year uh when we're in atlantic city i you know i i was feeling like that you know she was being flirted with kevin and she said that she found out first from like maybe it was like cooper and like maybe or maybe my assistant um but then like she changed her historian said that she may have heard it from you and i'm like wondering he's like uh yeah i'm not gonna stand here and say i definitely didn't do that so i don't want to lie to you but like i also might have accidentally slipped the tea to her like so i honestly don't remember she's like okay well i just want to make sure because like if it's my assistant there's like an nda and it becomes a whole work thing he's like oh yeah well don't don't get anyone fired just it probably was me so whatever she's like okay all right fine mystery so she's like mystery solved then thanks

40:21Ronnie Karam: So then we go back to Ariana arguing with Shai. Like, I don't want to sit here talking about my ex-boyfriend, okay? And that's how you started off the night, like, talking to Liam about me, right? You and Charlie? And he's like, oh, no, we're just like, whoa, you're stepping in some glue a little bit. Liam's like, no, I'm not stepping in glue. Because stepping in glue would be if they were still together. And that's like expired glue. So if you step on it, it's, like, crunchy. You don't stick to it.

40:49Ben Mandelker: so not just an actor guys so then shy is like um he's like i don't i mean like i don't know how i even found myself in this situation like it's crazy i don't know like it's crazy how did i even how does this even like this is his whole thing his whole thing is like what how did this how i don't even know what this was a reality show so uh messy shy messy she's messy and ariana's totally right don't like just you can hold you can be friends to both of them but don't bring information from one to the other because now that's he's like yeah but even rowan were the

41:22Ronnie Karam: ones who said it at lunch the other day they told me to they told me to talk to him which we see a clip and we saw it when it happened and it absolutely did not happen they're like yeah that's your place maybe you should talk to ariana first and then decide they literally both told him that yeah yeah so then he lies and ariana's like yeah i don't believe that rowan would say that

41:43Ben Mandelker: she's my girl and i'd like when um because because ariana's basically like you fucked up you fucked up joe you fucked up and then charlie's watching from afar and he's like shy's face is like so shook it looks like he just like storm normandy and he's just like whoa he's like zoning zoning off in the distance and everything yeah overthinking the experience he just had

42:03Ronnie Karam: that was such a funny analogy liam can't liam can't have i mean not liam shy can't handle this this is too much for shy he literally does not know what's going on now he's like oh fuck how do i get out of this so then amira is she needs to talk to georgia now so she goes over and it's like hi candy queen like gives her a hug like a fake hug like hello and george is actually so

42:28Ben Mandelker: warm georgia turns around she goes oh hi what's up like she's like generally so happy to see amira and amira's like so i talk with charlie she's like regarding she's like regarding what happened last summer down atlantic city and i just like wanted to get to the bottom of like who got the information back to you and he admitted to it so i was just kind of like like now i know that i can't share like information with him and george is like yeah yeah um i'm gonna be honest though um i don't know if he would not say that like he wouldn't say the like the nicest things regarding that topic like, either, like, regarding you, so.

43:08Ronnie Karam: So Georgia just here is like, okay, we worked it out. Now, you know, Georgia has just seen everybody's made up with Charlie. And Georgia's like, oh, shit. Now what do I do? So she comes up with this. And so she's like, yeah, but, like, before you make up with Charlie, you should know that he says really mean things about you. Like, he literally told me, like, whenever it would get brought up, he would always end up laughing and saying well that can't even be the case because kevin's a gay man and oh no georgia no you don't understand how that's like what how that's gonna affect amira you fucking idiot oh yeah it's just it's a delicate thing that should not be brought up

43:55Ben Mandelker: like just sort of casually at like a party as just like gossip so amira is just like and george is like and i want you to know that this was like said multiple times and if you consider charlie your best friend like that's something you should know and i'm sorry i'm so sorry are you okay and amira's like yeah i'm going i'm gone like i am leaving taking off my microphone like get me out

44:17Ronnie Karam: of this party yeah so she's out of there she's pissed yeah she's like get this mic off of me fuck these people so she leaves and um she sees charlie and she's like you have said some nasty shit and i don't want to be your friend anymore it's like what she's like i'm done and so she's going outside and i think this is the first time we've seen a mirror like this right where she's

44:42Ben Mandelker: like i've had it with you fuckers it's great she does a great storm out you know like she will be a real housewife someday she will graduate so brooke's like what just happened did it affect my brand i don't understand and charlie's like what what could i have possibly done he looks like rattled he's genuinely rattled so um so then ariana is still talking about tashai and she's Like, by the way, I hear Liam is like, when I received that text saying like, I hear Liam is flirting with you. I heard, I got that from Hudson. And she was like, he texted you? He's like, yeah. So going forward, like, don't say shit to him.

45:20Ben Mandelker: So now outside Amira is like fuming. And she's like, fuck him. I never want to speak to him again. He's a fucking piece of shit. He's dead to me. And Charlie is like, what? Why did Amira just get mad at me? And so Cooper's like, oh, Georgia just said something. You don't want to hear it. It's bad.

45:40Ronnie Karam: And George is like, yeah, I remember like the past year when like Amira doesn't like me and like, you know, she thinks you're flirting with Kevin or whatever. And then you would laugh every time and you would say that's ridiculous because he's a gay man. And Charlie's like, no, I don't. She's like, come on, Charlie. He's like, no, I absolutely do not remember saying that. I mean, come on. Like we know like things. What does he say? He says something like.

46:06Ben Mandelker: He says, I say shit.

46:07Ronnie Karam: but i don't i wouldn't say stuff like that yeah look you know no he says look you know how i feel about certain things but i don't say shit like that what does that mean and george is like but you did though he's like not on how did that even come up it's like because she's like charlie's my

46:22Ben Mandelker: friend la la la and i was like uh-uh and then and then she's like this and she's like well maybe you don't remember maybe you don't remember i mean that's fair if you don't remember that's fair And he goes, I don't, I don't remember saying that. Like, I really, I really don't. And, and so then Georgia's like, oh, well, I was just like, there's something that you should know. And he, that he thinks about this whole Kevin thing. So yeah, I outed you. And he's like, you lied about me as what you did. Anyway, Charlie is denying that he ever said these things. He's saying, you know, you lied. And Georgia says, she's like, she's like, it's not a lie.

46:57Ben Mandelker: You've said that multiple times and I will go to my grave corroborating myself on this. So Charlie's like, I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I'm my own witness in this trial and I corroborate. I would like to call it the stand me. Okay. Me is what you said. Correct. It is no further questions. Your honor.

47:16Ronnie Karam: You are not guilty.

47:17Ben Mandelker: Wait a minute. So he's like, when did I lie? When did I lie? He's like, she's like, you know what? I'm going home. I feel like you have, you have a right to know what happened, but yeah, that's it. I'm going. He's like, uh, okay, well, thanks for telling me and lying about me, I guess. And she's like, yeah, you're welcome i didn't fucking lie you're the liar and so she and cooper walk out

47:39Ronnie Karam: yeah um so amira is pissed and she's like no and fuck charlie and i'm not protecting charlie anymore you know fuck that guy and kevin's like yeah you guys getting this cameras you getting this for the show because me and charlie we're gonna go into the boxing ring and uh they get inside and or inside the car and then inside the place charlie is telling his friend like oh my god george has just told amira that apparently i said kevin was gay i mean and now it's like well when did that happen and charlie says when she was homeless staying in my house like oh my god

48:19Ben Mandelker: so and now george and cooper george is like he's so fucking scared right now because amira was the last person in this corner and that fucking set her over the edge good job me and cooper's like yeah, do you think Amir is mad at you for saying that? She goes, well, I fucking hope not. I'm glad she knows. But like, I don't know if that was right context to tell her, you know, like, yeah, she, here's, I will tell you what's going to happen. Amir and Charlie are going to have a talk. It's going to be smoothed over. And then Amir is going to get mad at Georgia for trying to break them apart as friends.

48:48Ben Mandelker: We've seen this on literally every reality show.

48:52Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And there's just so much subtext to all of this that Georgia is just like clearly not getting. She was a little too careless with delicate stuff. Yes. Yeah. What an idiot. Oh my God. So not a great move, Georgia. But also fuck Charlie too, because Charlie probably did say that, you know? Yeah. So it's not even really sticking up for Charlie. It's more sticking up for Amira because I know that she's probably really upset by that one. Very much. And Amira's pretty good to everybody, you know? I mean, even when she has a problem with somebody, she's like, okay, here's my problem with you, you know?

49:36Ronnie Karam: Mm-hmm. Like, let's smooth over our problem and kind of gets over it, but this is not great. All right, everybody. Well, thank you so much for being here with us. We'll be back tomorrow with Real Housewives of Orange County. Thanks so much. Bye. Bye.

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