#3479 Below Deck Med S11E08 Part Two: Come From Away

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1:48Ben Mandelker: Guess what happens when there's so much that crappens? Guess what happens when there's so much that crappens? Guess what happens when there's so much that crappens? Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap.

2:15Ronnie Karam: So then Coop is telling Kat that Luke is leaving, but she can't say nothing, okay? And now we're in the tiny walk-in fridge, and Joy and Luke are toasting with Red Bulls. And he's like, so, I'm going to leave. She's like, what? Why are you going to leave? I think it's best. I'm leaving today. She's like, oh, because you fucked up and you think it's too much tension? Or what? Well, do you think it's best for you? It is not best for me.

2:46Ben Mandelker: he's like yes well here's all i want to say i would like to ejaculate somewhere right now how do you feel about that our paths will cross again because that's bullshit he's like look i know you're angry but you can't be angry at me for this uh she's like oh well you didn't come to

3:06Ronnie Karam: me to make decisions you made on your own so whatever decision is made goodbye joy think about your words again you didn't come to me so uh i like that she's like whatever goodbye and she's like yeah but she's saying that she regrets being hard on him because she was hoping that they could fix things during the season well then i'm glad you were given a blocker

3:31Ben Mandelker: yeah seriously um so then everyone gets into whites for guests to disembark and amy tells amy's whole thing suzanne's whole thing is she wants to walk off with will so amy's like okay we're gonna kick off all the guys so that way suzanne and will can walk off separately so amy's like hey guys so good morning i just want you to know that suzanne has made a choice I won't say who it is, but she has made a choice. They're like, it's the guy who's not here. Is it Will? The only one who's not here. Mm-hmm. Well, I can't, I can either confirm nor deny, but you all have to get off the boat because now you're reduced down to the level of vermin.

4:10Ben Mandelker: Okay. Please leave. Please leave as soon as possible.

4:14Ronnie Karam: Yeah, this is tacky as fuck. Suzanne doesn't even come out and say, everybody, thank you so much. It was so nice meeting you. I've made a choice in it. Or like, hey, guys, thanks so much. it's been great meeting all of you bye nothing she just yeah i thought that was so she just hides

4:31Ben Mandelker: in her room and kicks them off that is that's tacky as fuck suzanne damn unless it's unless it's like a thing where like um they just didn't show us but i was like wow they just kick off these guys so then um so asia's like well it's a little bit awkward so let's just get them off this boat as soon as possible. And then Coop is, you know, they're docking and Coop is telling Jen that they're down a deckhand and Jen's like, what do you mean? And Coop is like, Luke's leaving. She's like, oh shit, when? I'm actually glad if I'm being honest. And she's like, wow, wasn't expecting that. I felt like Luke was too cocky to ever admit his mistakes and leave the boat.

5:13Ben Mandelker: And it makes me like, have just like the idiots bit of respect for him, but like, It's literally microscopic, as big as a tardigrade, even smaller. And then they show a tardigrade on screen. Someone in post was like, I've been waiting to use this tardigrade effect for years. Finally, it's happening. I've had this screenshot on my desktop for six years.

5:35Ronnie Karam: Never been able to use it. Her parents are at home like, well, she is pretty embarrassing, but she did say tardigrade on camera.

5:47that's something we are we are happy as two as two of the leading

5:52Ben Mandelker: charted grade scientists in york city this does make us proud

5:56Ronnie Karam: oh god i wasn't supposed to tell nobody now everybody knows i'm terrible at this shit so suzanne leaves with will um for this relationship that's never gonna happen and uh then we go to the main salon for the tip meeting was that not the hardest charter ever two times in a row. Jeez, talk about the stamina of this group.

6:21Ben Mandelker: Wow, just you know, but your hard effort just, it just got over everything. Just everywhere. Everywhere, everything. It was just a big puddle of hard effort. So, good job, everyone. And, you know, and Joy's like, yes, this was a real challenge, and the child humbled me a lot. She goes, yeah. Well, I think you handled it like a champ. Sorry, that's American slang for champion. So, there you go. And Luke and I, I just, Luke, do you have anything you want to say? Do you want to come forward about anything? Luke?

6:52Ronnie Karam: Well, it's been such an honour to work with you. You're such a high-performing team. Bam, bam, thank you, ma 'am. I wish you the best. I think the right thing for me to do is leave. the same water that boils an egg is the same water that softens a potato and you've given me the best mix of what what what the same water that boils an egg is the same water that could have cleaned those sheets what the fuck are you talking about now you're

7:28Ben Mandelker: into boiling water what are you in this metaphor what is the metaphor i mean it's a I see what you're trying to say, but I understand the metaphor, but it's not a great metaphor. It's not very fascinating, the boiled egg. It hardens the egg, but it softens the potato.

7:49Ronnie Karam: Why are you talking about getting hard and soft in the meeting that you're quitting for getting hard too much?

7:56Ben Mandelker: The same egg that boils is the same egg that turns into mayonnaise. And the same mayonnaise that goes into the egg and the potato is the same mayonnaise that coats the dill. And the same salt that seasons the potatoes. Hey, are you just trying to make potato salad? I am. Yes.

8:14Ronnie Karam: So wait, in one of these examples, you're getting something hard. But in the other example, you're taking something that is hard and turning it soft. I just don't know what to make of all of this, but I'm still just thinking of your boner. Okay? Can we just do something else? Why are you rubbing your head on the coffee table? That's just something behind my ear. I just, that feels good.

8:40Ben Mandelker: That feels good. So he, I don't understand how this metaphor that he came up with is, how it's applying to his experience. Is it that like, is it that the duress of this boat was also like something wonderful for him?

9:00Ronnie Karam: like i think he's saying this experience could make someone harder like it could be i could believe this experience as a you know bitter person or i could leave this experience softer

9:16Ben Mandelker: or like uh more compassionate because i've gone through things and i've learned from them i mean

9:23Ronnie Karam: i don't fucking know i think kat says it best she's like does the egg or the potato represent the fucking sheets.

9:29Ben Mandelker: Like, what? I know. But the best part is he goes, the same water that boils an egg is the same water that softens a potato, and you guys have really given me the best mix of both. You literally are talking about potato salad now. He's like, you've given me some hard-boiled eggs with some soft potatoes, and I just want to make it. Some of you have made me

9:48Ronnie Karam: hard. Some of you have made me soft. You're going to smell like sulfur and mayonnaise by the time I'm gone.

9:57Ben Mandelker: I just, I just don't understand the use of this metaphor in this context. It's already just not a good. Also, like as metaphoric crap goes. It's a himbo speech. It really is. Like, I kind of think I want something that's more inspiring than an egg and a potato. You know, I guess I just stay away from potato salad ingredients. You can do something with an egg. You can do something with a potato, but don't put them both in the same metaphor because then it just becomes comedy.

10:20Ronnie Karam: And hard and soft. Like, let's just keep that stuff out, you know? So they're like, whatever. Nobody cares because nobody's surprised. So he doesn't really get a huge, oh, people are like, okay, bye then. But the tip is 25 grand. And Sandy's looking for a replacement for Luke.

10:40Ben Mandelker: Who's it going to be? So then everyone's changing and cleaning and Luke comes to the galley to see joy. And he's like, he's like, Oh, I think there's something behind your ear. And he pulls out a tomato, like a magic trick. And she's like, the same water that hardens the egg is the same water that softens the tomato. You cannot do that one with me. Just because you changed the P to a T does not impress me.

11:08Ronnie Karam: Why is this potato slimy? It's like, well, the potato currently is soft and I am hard. And the space between us was the boiling water. Oh, God, get this out of my face. And he goes, you know what? I will find you again. Get the fuck out of here. You're not in a romantic movie where you're going to war and you don't know when you're going to come back. You came all over somebody's sheets and let them sleep in it. Okay?

11:42Ben Mandelker: You're also. Please. Yeah, you're not. This is not some fantasy where you're going off on your noble steed and you're on a quest. This is not the Odyssey. Okay? Like this is 2026. you know you have you can tax each other she's like i'm going off again good luck good luck to me she's all right well even if everything happened i like this guy since the beginning and i'm going to miss him even though he's screwed up a lot he's like i've been a lot through a lot of my life and this is not the worst thing that's happened it's just the stickiest so knowing when to leave is something that i'm getting better at practicing by me leaving the boat i'm choosing the harder route, the potato route, oh, sorry, the egg route, if you will.

12:24Ben Mandelker: And I think Captain Sandy appreciates that. She's more of the potato in this. I've learned one thing.

12:31Ronnie Karam: You know, when things get difficult, you should just take that pain and swallow it.

12:45Ronnie Karam: It would have solved

12:47Ben Mandelker: literally every problem I've had on this boat. I also like how the more he fucks up, the more convicted he becomes in his stance that he should just leave the situation that he created. He says, knowing when to leave is something I'm getting better at practicing. So what's going to happen is this is going to apply to romantic situations where he will cause shit. He'll get his nuts off and then he'll be like, this is too much. I have to leave. And now I know I've been through so much my life. I know it's better to separate myself from a situation than to keep going through it, which is what he actually already did to Jen.

13:26Ben Mandelker: So, he's giving this little monologue as if he's having some sort of introspection when actually all he is doing is confirming his own strategies to getting out of the messes that he's going to make in the future.

13:40Ronnie Karam: Yeah, exactly. Making the worst possible choice, you know, making the biggest wussy decision after a bad choice. like leaving you i cheated and that's why i'm leaving on you know i'm not saying this i'm just

13:53Ben Mandelker: saying for the future you know i don't want to cause any more trauma so it's 3 0 2 p.m um wow i i thought this episode i thought this scene took place at 3 p.m 3 0 2 p.m and uh everyone is like talking about like wow luke left luke is leaving wow this is crazy and it's just like checking in on joy and if she's okay and everyone's fine and and kelly kelly's telling nathan he's a good boss and um you know jen's telling cat that like look this isn't the worst trouble i've got my vagina into i'll tell you that much i'm pretty chill i'm chill jen now she's like yeah i really

14:35Ronnie Karam: meant to come into this boat with a positive mindset which clearly i mean clearly i felt so for that but um like now that luke's gone i'm hoping for a reset no more negativity just happy positive gen zen gen yeah i'm sure i don't think anybody yeah i don't think anybody believes that but i can't wait to see you try i love that you're one season people on bravo really have to get it all in there in one season usually it takes a couple a season or two for you to come back as a second version of yourself but this is just like three weeks later she's like it's me it's new gen

15:09Ben Mandelker: season two gen yeah gen 2.0 so uh koop and joe are on the deck and joe is saying like cart is lovely are you gonna go on another date with her or just one is enough and koop's like i don't know i do like the girl that's my person on board but i definitely want to go a bit slower because the pressure from everyone's too much i mean we live in different countries you know the industry because i'm in i live in south carolina she lives in florida i made how we gonna make that work it's two different countries where do they live i have no idea where he lives in south carolina is she like canadian i don't know that she lived in like i assume she lived in like florida or georgia or something like that i have no idea where she is i was like you mean she's she lives in a different country.

16:03Cat?

16:05Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I don't know. It doesn't seem like that's her vibe.

16:10Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I don't know. I just, I don't remember her ever saying. So Joe's like, Joe's like, oh, yeah, it can be hard with pressure from other people. You don't see that with me and Kaylee because everyone knows we're just here to have a good time, right? He's like, yeah, that's where I am right now. I'm due to the industry. Like, I'm not sure where a boatman is supposed to go. I heard don't screw the crew, but they met the love of his life and had a baby, and that's working out great. Just don't fast forward. Just do not fast forward. It's turning out great. Yeah. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

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18:23Ronnie Karam: so he now he's deciding that he just got out of a relationship and he just wants to be single no i mean look it's not like you're supposed to marry somebody but you've clearly said i like you i'm not gonna hurt you this is come on man yeah this i i also feel like something that i

18:43Ben Mandelker: noticed here was when when joe said you know um something you won't see is like with with me and Kaylee, everyone knows we're just here to have a bit of fun. To me, Joe saying that is his way of ensuring that his stance has been properly noted amongst the crew and the cameras and the audience. So that way, if she turns and she starts to get into it, it's not his fault. He's like, I'm establishing exactly where we are, America. So don't get mad at me this time when she gets, when she starts like clinging on. I'm like, I know what you're doing here, Joe. And I see the groundwork you're trying to lay.

19:24Ben Mandelker: He's basically trying to lay the groundwork for his escape hatch. And I'm onto it.

19:30Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but his, you know, arguing with his stance on that, I think that's, I agree with that. And I think he's making it out to be like, oh, they just always fall in love with me. But that's not the thing. You go to them and you're like, oh, you're the only one. You're the only one I want to be with. And they fuck them over. So don't make it sound like everybody just, nobody can help falling in love with Joe. He's just so irresistible.

19:58Ben Mandelker: And one thing that Below Deck is really good for is a second half of the season focus shift. I guess I can't think of a good way to say it. But a lot of times, the first portion of the season is consumed with a big storyline. In this case, it's Luke and these sheets and everything with Luke and Jen and Joy. And then once that passes, a new storyline emerges. And I would not be surprised if we now pivot over to Joe and Kaylee and watch that become like the main shit show of the boat.

20:33Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And see, that one actually would surprise me, too, because Kaylee seems so serious about not being serious. that I would be my guess is it's gonna but you know I've I'm tricked all the time on these shows um I think it's gonna be Jen I think Jen's gonna become I hope so like I think Jen's gonna become

20:53Ben Mandelker: unhinged about something because I want those braids back I want those two hanging braids and the stringy hair back yeah and full force I think it's yeah I think it's gonna be her uh so but

21:06Ronnie Karam: we'll see it can be all of the above too it's a show with a lot of people so then gail is texting nate and she's like okay you can go out with the crew but just making sure you can come here i really need you too i'm very sleep deprived and he's like okay yeah of course i know it's been hard just go home why are you going out with the crew yeah this didn't you just stay home didn't you just stay here because you were sick after the last one i mean i get that this is a tv show and you you know, part of it is going out and filming after, but he wouldn't be the first one that skipped that shit. And they hired him knowing that he's going to have a baby down the street or whatever.

21:47Ronnie Karam: Yeah.

21:47Ben Mandelker: I mean, his, uh, he, he should go home. Uh, I do think though, there is also, I think last time when he was sick, I think he should have gone home then because Gail was kind of of the mindset of like, I don't care if you're sick, I need your help. And he was like, but I don't want to get the baby sick. And it should have been, I think, I think it's kind of like, if your wife is saying she needs you, like go home, even if you're feeling under the weather. And I think that she's still carrying like resentment about that. Cause she basically has now had about six days in a row without his help, which is why she's at her wits end.

22:25Ben Mandelker: But I also do feel like, well, you guys moved here to Croatia with the understanding that he was going back onto this boat and he was going to be working. And you know, Like part of being on below deck is like, and like being on the show and making your paycheck on the show is that you have to like shoot these scenes. So there's part of me that also feels like it sucks for Gail tremendously, tremendously. But like they did this, they willingly chose to have this arrangement. So like, I don't, I don't, I'm not, I don't begrudge Nathan as much for just going to dinner and then going to Gail after dinner.

23:01Ben Mandelker: but i understand why she's frustrated but i also feel like well yeah i just what they were gonna

23:06Ronnie Karam: i think that he just did this last time because he was sick and now he's doing it's like now right again you don't you're not like okay now i'm well so i'm gonna you need to go straight home i mean nobody would have got her this is gonna be like raising a newborn she's stuck in fucking croatia doing this what looks like alone at some airbnb she doesn't know anybody she's you know this is her first time doing it. He needs to get the fuck out of there and go home and take her some dinner. And then they can shoot a nice little scene there. This is crazy. Or just don't come on the show if you're going to have a newborn.

23:41Ronnie Karam: There's that thing also. If production is going to say, okay, we're going to put Gail up somewhere really close, assuming they are putting her up. But we're going to do this and then we'll get to shoot your little cute home scenes of you being a dad. Then be prepared that he's going to have to

23:56Ben Mandelker: go home to be with the the baby i think i think it's okay for him to go out to dinner uh but i think in this case he should not have gone out to dinner just because he didn't go back home last time so this time he should have been like i'll skip dinner because gail is falling apart and i'll go there although she did text him and said something like go out to dinner but please come back afterwards so she did say that but i mean we all can read through the we can read between the lines yeah like like players and i really need you yeah yeah um i think i think i think it's okay generally if he goes out to dinner but i think in this case given what happened last time i love how i'm like i'm like making a case for like the for like a jury right now.

24:45Ben Mandelker: I'm like, I actually really don't care. I don't care what they do. Whatever. Go to dinner. Don't go to dinner. I really don't care. I'm not invested.

24:55Ronnie Karam: I've just, you know, I've got a newborn in my life. One of my friends has one and I was just out with her the other day playing with this baby. It was not newborn. It's almost one, but she's so cute. But it's so much work. It's so hard. And I can't imagine doing that alone in a place where you've got no help. You don't know anybody and then your guy is didn't come last time because he was sick he you know he went out in in any way but didn't come to you and then is going out again instead of coming straight home for this one at least this one time i don't know it's i wonder if she hangs out with producers

25:30Ben Mandelker: you know because they all know her i wonder if if she just like you know while he's off let's see if she just like goes out and has like meals with producers and hangs out with them or Or is that like, are they not allowed to do that?

25:43Ronnie Karam: I think they're all on the boat, aren't they? Well, I guess some of them are on land.

25:47Ben Mandelker: I imagine there must be some that are sitting there in Croatia.

25:50Ronnie Karam: I don't know. So anyway, we go to the vans. Everyone's going to dinner. What?

25:57Ben Mandelker: I was going to say, it's too bad she doesn't know Ellie because Ellie is from the Balkans. She might know someone to be friends with. Although I think Ellie might be. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm literally saying nonsense right now.

26:10Ronnie Karam: that's who you want around your your baby ellie a lot of cheesecake you'll get a lot of cheese completely peaceful ellie uh so um everyone's getting on the vans and asha's checking with nathan and asking if he's going to the house and he's like he said uh i need you or she messaged me and said she needs me to come and she's like yeah you should go over soon she's got that kind of look of concern where she's like she doesn't want to boss you around but she's like oh yeah then you should go over there. And he's like, well, I mean, her messaging me something like that, you know, I mean, sorry to be a downer, but God, this is really hard.

26:48Ronnie Karam: I just didn't really know it was going to be this hard. What did you think it was? I know. I'm a newborn. And being like, her messaging me like that is really stressing me out. How do you think she feels?

27:03Ben Mandelker: Also, is Gail allowed to come to dinner? Is like Gail allowed to leave the house? can't she come with a baby to dinner is that crazy i guess i mean i gotta think it'd be fun for gail yeah but i mean i don't know i don't know people put a baby in a in a what do you call them baby bjorn head out to dinner more than a night yeah come on invite gail to dinner once in a while please so then we go to bungee beach bungee beach bungee um and joe orders six espresso

27:42Ronnie Karam: martinis because we're on bravo they're a pronounced espresso damn it very fast martinis

27:49Ben Mandelker: and everyone toast and the cheers and coop is sitting at one of the table away from cat and uh and he's um he also by the way did not go in the same van as um cat and jen I just want to point that out or cap most importantly. So Jen's like, are you okay? Have you thought about putting your hair in braids and just getting a lot of volume in the meanwhile meantime? And she's like, um, I'm not really sure what happened, but like, it doesn't seem like he wants to spend any time with me, which is like super strange because it hasn't been like that up to this point. So I'm, it's just like, what did I do?

28:20Ben Mandelker: And why are you treating me like this? What's happening?

28:24Ronnie Karam: Um, so then Nathan gets a text from Gail asking if he can come now because the baby has had a really rough day. and he's like of course of course i will and uh he's like this just feels weird i mean like i didn't anticipate it to be like this it's hard yeah well it's having a baby you decided to

28:44Ben Mandelker: you decided to unleash a baby on this earth so i gotta take care of it so it's just like well you guys are both in a hard position i just think you need to give each other grace and just breathe and just hang on which is as generic advice as you could give someone but she's like i really don't know what to say to you anymore. I already told you to go back to her and you're still here. So she says, I really feel bad for Nathan. He's trying to be a good crew member and he's trying to raise him to be a good partner and a good dad and Gail being at the Airbnb by herself. I mean, if I had a baby with Scott sitting there, focusing on a child, it would be the hardest thing in the world.

29:21Ronnie Karam: So he's going to go home and then Joy gets a text from Luke Luke. And he's like, just because I've left the boat doesn't mean I'm giving up on us. You can't shut up.

29:32Ben Mandelker: You guys were never an us. You're not an us. Stop. You're a Luke and Joy. You're not an us. What are you talking about? Oh, God, the love bombing.

29:40Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So now it's 1040 p.m. and Nathan has left. Everybody else goes to dance. And Aisha really does dance like she is raising that avocado from a baby. and she's just at a dance class with the avocado and she's showing it how to get mushed. She's just like, she's doing a mushy avocado dance. I don't know how else to explain it. I need a super cut of Aisha just dancing in every season.

30:10Ben Mandelker: At BravoCon, Ronnie and I, we went to dinner with Aisha and Hannah Ferrier and our friend Kimberly. And afterwards, I think we sort of split into two groups. And so I was with Asia and I was with Asia and one of the, one of the producers from below deck. And we were walking around the, what casino was that again that we were in the next to the four seasons, you know, the big one, it's not the MGM, but it's the one across it's anyway, we're walking around this casino and then we wound up going to this bar that had dance floor and it was playing hip hop. They were playing hip hop in there and Asia was like music.

30:50Ben Mandelker: And I love hip hop. And she just like, boom, goes right on the dance floor. She's like, and she's up, she's down, she's shaking her booty. She's like, she's got like hands and shoes on the floor, but in the air. And she like, like in real life, she just like lose it. Like there's the moment there's a beat, she just loses herself to the window, to the wall, to the sweat drops on your balls.

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33:52Ronnie Karam: They're all dancing and Kat is talking to some girls at the bar and one of them is from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. And she goes, oh, my God, that guy over there is from South Carolina. She's like, oh, my God, really? She's like, yeah, Coop, come over here. This girl's from South Carolina. So he's like, wow, you're from South Carolina? Where from? They start making small talk. And then Kat's like, why is he talking to that girl? Not even Amir.

34:21Ben Mandelker: That girl's like, are you really from South Carolina? Because you're not wearing Tama Bahama. So Kat's like, I mean, what the fuck? I mean, oh, that's crazy. I would tell Coop to talk to a girl, and then he's like talking to the girl. Why'd that happen?

34:35Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I mean, I see what made her sensitive, because he goes from being like, Hi there, my little sweet pea, to just distancing himself, and she doesn't know what the fuck is going on. But this was funny. I was like, you did introduce him to this girl. So then she pulls him for a chat, and it's raining outside, and she does not care. she's like you will stand in this rain and you will talk to me gotcha and uh he's like i'm good i'm having a great time what's going on it's like um i haven't even talked to you in the past two days and it's like really getting in my fucking head okay and that's how i feel this is very love

35:14Ben Mandelker: island coded because this happens all the time and he's like well fuck that and it's because he's like he he tries to go in for a kiss to sort of solve it all and he's like no no no no don't do that and then the audience or the audience people in the bar are like kiss kiss kiss and he's like they're telling us to kiss i guess we'll do that she's like no it's like i just like i don't want you to fucking hurt me because like actually i'm like so fucking seriously though like don't fucking hurt me he's like do you think i am she's like yeah so then this guy then the waiter comes over and like brings him an umbrella which by the way that is great service like that's that's amazing that he did that but i guess it's also because everyone's invested in them kissing for some reason so um but we also know like the first rule of a romanticus is that it has to be in the rain so that umbrella was actually working against the romancer in that moment yeah really it's kind

36:03Ronnie Karam: of a cock block in a way um and she's like you know you don't really go out of your way to make me feel special it's like i'm just another fucking stew so and he's like i'll hate that's how you feel but it is how i feel it's like then i'll do better i'm just in my head a little bit i'm so sorry if you have relationship any kind of questions about like am i moving too fast like don't talk to joe you know what i mean yeah because he's not going to fill you with he's never going to be like um are you worried that you might like her too much you should talk to her or anything like that he's just gonna and he didn't say anything really bad he was just like oh yeah that is a lot of pressure be careful be careful on a boat i just feel like i think getting older, you realize like who the fuck cares if you're going, if it's, oh, it's going

36:55Ben Mandelker: too fast. Like who cares? If you're enjoying each other's company, you're enjoying each other's time, then great. And then if you're, if you're concerned that like, oh no, I've, I've, I've got the ick and now I'm really going to hurt them by trying to extricate myself out of the situation. You're going to hurt them either then, or you're going to hurt them now by pulling back. So you're still going to hurt them. So why not just enjoy the ride? And when you decide you no longer are feeling it, that's when you do it. But like, I just feel like watching people, you know, spend so much time talking about, oh my God, it's going too fast.

37:31Ben Mandelker: It's going too fast. It just feels so, uh, it feels so unnecessary.

37:36Ronnie Karam: Well, I think when people move too fast, a lot of times you get stuck with people who are just constant love bombers or move too fast. And then you're like, whoa whoa whoa i didn't see this coming but if you move slowly you can still be with somebody who has those tendencies but they've just learned how to manipulate it longer until they let the real one come out so i don't know i don't know i'm not i don't know i'm not talking about like

38:02Ben Mandelker: love a love bombing situation like i totally get it if it's like a casual moment and someone comes in really hot and heavy but it's more like if you both like each other and you like both like being around each other. And then like one person arbitrarily is like, wait a second, this is going too fast for me. I'm pulling back. It's like, why you're enjoying yourself. Why would you do that? You know?

38:22Ronnie Karam: Well, I think it's just another way of saying, um, I, we're girlfriend and boyfriend now. I didn't want that. I still want to fuck other people. I think that's exactly what you're saying. That's all. Like, oh, this is moving too fast. But you know, I see what you're saying too, because you can drive fast, but there's still a brake and everyone has the right to put on the brake. It's safe. It's safe to put on the brakes every once in a while or slow down. However you use that brake pedal. That was very sincere.

38:50Ben Mandelker: But I do see... Say it again? That was like very... I feel like that's something sincere would have said on Love Island in his confessional. I mean, you can drive, but they have a brake pedal for a reason and it's okay to hit the brake and sometimes it's even safer. But like sometimes I want the gas and the brake. so why not have the gas in the drink?

39:08Ronnie Karam: Sometimes you have the option of drinking with a straw but if you don't want to drink with a straw then you drink it with your mouth but then you can get stuff dribbling down your face. So the point is drink through a cake.

39:24Ben Mandelker: Why don't you have two straws? You can still do it. It's not bad. You still get the same suction.

39:31Ronnie Karam: They make up and they kiss and everybody's clapping. The whole club is now outside watching them, clapping for them. And he tells us he's surprised that it's so intense already. But he doesn't want to hurt somebody's feelings, much less the person I kind of have feelings for on the boat. And she's like, yeah, it's really tough opening up to somebody. It's like, I hope he doesn't hurt me. It's like so cringy to like open up and be vulnerable.

39:56Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's just like being vulnerable sucks. Meanwhile, while they're kissing, at 11.52pm, Nathan arrives at Gail's. That's pretty late to get, I mean, how far away is Gail's Airbnb? Jeez, he finally gets there. And he's like, hello, how are you? He has a different voice around her. It's like his, like, hey, honey, I'm home voice. And it's like very sing-songy. He's like, hello, how are you? She's like, not very good. I can't handle anymore. Please, I'm really upset and I So it took me a lot to calm down Gayle, I understand And I appreciate you expressing your emotions No, but I'm just trying to get to all of these Yeah

40:39Ronnie Karam: Yeah Hey, I really need you I haven't slept I'm going crazy here all alone And then you show up at midnight I can't I would throw him through the glass doors That's crazy I'm saying like Hey, I want you to feel your emotions it's very important no no no no it's not my emotions are not out of control it's midnight

41:03Ben Mandelker: yeah yeah exactly so then they're all in the vans and they're just uh the rest of them are going home and everything and uh they're going back to the back to the boat and kaylee is talking to us about cooper and cat and she's like i know cooper and cat are new to yachting even even i am i'm new to yachting and I can still do an amazing tablescape and be better than Jen. Isn't that so hilarious? And I can understand that a date in this business means more than that, you know? But like, I don't know, you might know someone for six weeks on a boat and it feels like you're known for almost two years.

41:35Ben Mandelker: So I feel like it's quite important that he understands what he's getting himself into.

41:39Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she's very good. She sits right with, she's even like holding his hand or something but she's like yeah hi so basically what you did when you take somebody on a date on a boat that means you're kind of married so that's not casual dating at this point like you can't just say oh now i'm gonna be casual it's like oh that's what that means she's like yeah you don't you don't take somebody on a date and then tell them you want to be casual you fucking idiot and he's like oh okay thanks so on the boat everyone's back and joy is texting with

42:16Ben Mandelker: luke and she checks him uh maybe one day you will explain to me why you chose the easier option good for you remind him remind him and then there's cuddling coop and cat cuddles a lot of talk about like my hooves watch out for my hooves i like your hooves and then everyone goes to sleep And now it's 1.20 a.m. on the bridge. And what no one expected was that there was a surprise episode of wind that dropped on Peacock.

42:44Ronnie Karam: Dun, dun, dun. Oh, my God. This is insane. What is that? Wind? This is crazy. Is Norma standing out there? Is Zeus just trying to get that hideous woman off of our day? What is happening?

42:59Ben Mandelker: This is insane. oh god guys i need you right now this episode is too good to watch alone okay we need to have we need to have talk we need to have popcorn okay we need we need to talk about this afterwards all right get on the deck so this storm has come in out of nowhere even though it was like lightning and thunder all night long and it was so windy they had to come in to dock for the night but that's okay um so they have to go out it's like it's like uh what's the perfect storm except They're completely docked. And they're out there. And the boat has drifted. It's like, get out there. Come on.

43:32Ben Mandelker: And it's cold. And it's rainy. And they're in raincoats. It's like, it's wild. And it's like, yo, ho, ho, Hans. I'm like, whoa. But guess what?

43:44Ronnie Karam: It is. They're like that even when they're docked. It feels like this boat feels like one of Nathan's sheets. Everybody. Hands on deck.

43:55Ben Mandelker: Oh, God. oh, it's going to be crazy. We're going to, the side's going to pop. We got to, those fenders can't hold us off for much longer. We got to fix this. So they get out there and they do it. And it's, they're fine. It's crazy. It's fine. It does look crazy. It's like legitimately crazy.

44:11Ronnie Karam: It does look. Yeah, it is. So now in the morning, Jen's asking Kat about Coop. Everything's fine. Okay. Aisha texts Nathan to make sure he's okay. Sandy is just sitting there staring at the, you know, TV. that's just waiting for a new one. You never know when a new one's going to drop. You never know. I am hooked on this season. And she's like, oh shit, it looks like we might get some wind tonight. We might get some wind tonight. You know, they made it look like Lou Diamond Phillips died at the end of last episode, but I believe in him. He's going to come back for Dame Judy. Why do I keep saying Dame Judy?

44:49Ben Mandelker: He always stands and delivers. See what I did there? because you mentioned Edward James almost earlier this episode. So I figured we'd just go through the cast that whole movie, you know? You get it. I'm with you. You get it.

45:03Ronnie Karam: You get it. So then Nathan's not on the boat, guys. Dun, dun, dun. Where's Nathan? Where is he? We check in with Norma again. There's still nobody who can fill the charter. What is going to happen?

45:20Ben Mandelker: Oh, God. If Nathan's not back, oh, and there's wind tonight and we don't have Luke, I don't even know what's going to happen. What are we going to do? So guess what? It's like two hours until the charter. We haven't even had a preference sheet meeting. But Nathan, he basically shows up very, very, very, very late. And he's like, I'm on my way. And then, of course, Joe, things have been pretty nice lately. But, of course, Joe pounces on this opportunity. and he's like, Nathan being away for all this time, it's just, you know, because I understand it's his circumstances, but he's the bosun. For him to be late without any level of communication, I think it's completely unprofessional.

45:57Ben Mandelker: That's not what a bosun does. That's not what a leader does. What example are you setting for this tech group? I mean, he's 100 % correct, but I just don't want to hear it from Joe.

46:07Ronnie Karam: Yeah, because you're right. Joe just waits for the second. I mean, the second it goes wrong, he's like, this is unacceptable. Ha ha ha. So we'll see. And Nathan finally gets there. And we get a, where have you been? To be continued.

46:28Ben Mandelker: To be windinued. Okay. Well, thanks everyone for being here. Fun festive episode, don't you think? Yeah. Luke is gone.

46:38Ronnie Karam: It's been good times, everybody. Thanks a lot for being here. We will be back later today with some Winter is Crappeting Game of Thrones House of the Dragon recap. So we'll see you later. Bye, everybody. Bye.

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