#3482 McBee Dynasty S03E07: Digging a Tallow Grave

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1:59where you can access our bonus episode, which is a trailer trash of the new Roni trailer, and also ad-free listening, newsletter, all sorts of great stuff. Video. So come join us over there. Today, we are discussing the McBee family dynasty, where the tallow drama continues to consume the brain trust known as the McBee sons. Yeah. Brain trust. Mm-hmm. Wow, that tallow. It's very controversial business. Tallow. It's hot, hot business. We all love the Tallow drama. And as noted on the House of the Dragon recap, is that Tallow made an appearance even there in Westeros because there's a Tallow shortage.

2:50Yeah, one of the poor people was like, we need more Tallow for the candles. There's no Tallow for the torches. Where's the Tallow? and Rhaenyra, the queen, was like, you are the most pessimistic person when it comes to Talo, and I'm sorry that Kasey has everything in her home fridge. She needs help. And this is why we should all vote to give my girlfriend a five minutes, 20 % of this company. Yeah. So we are catching up with this family. They are still in their RV. They just dropped off dad, and they just dropped him off in prison, and they're going through the streets. And Steve Jr. was like, yeah, don't worry.

3:31There'll be better days ahead. Days of waking up at 4 a.m. and journaling. Days of coming up with memberships in the afternoon. Days of journaling at night also. Days of sending our kids off to the private school of their choice. Of our choice, I should say. God damn it, who would ever put that idea in my eye that the kids would get a choice? Anyway, better days ahead. And this is the final step. Don't you worry. And Christy, the mom, zoned out kind of robot-eyed mom. It's just like, don't worry. Now the countdown begins. What does that mean? It's the countdown waiting for Daddy to get out. Right?

4:07Yeah. It's for Daddy to come out. But, like, why do you care? Why do you care, Christy? Christy's crying and stuff. She's really upset over Steve Sr. lately. I mean, she really forgave. Talk about forgiving her relationship. Good God. Christy really did. So she asked the boys how they're feeling. and Cole's like well you know it feels weird because I feel like we talked about this all last year like we prepared for it and like anything in our business is but now that it's happened it's like we talked about dad going to jail and then dad went to jail it's crazy he's a real cause and effect kind of guy so yeah he's all sad he's like I won't be able to see my daddy for two years I'm like, there are people who won't see their daddy for 30 years, so let's relax.

5:00Well, it's just weird, because whenever we're going through something tough, or something sad, or we're just looking for the perfectly sized blonde woman to send our future kid to membership school with, we call daddy. That's who we call. Now we can't call daddy. Let's just collect. I think that only works reverse. Do you call prisms collect? I don't even know how to call daddy. we definitely need some sort of voice of reason and some advice and chrissy's like well i'm here to help any way i can assuming that the advice you need is how big of an ice latte you can order from a coffee shop the answer is good guy very big he got a huge one today i'm sure you noticed it but i was thinking of you i was i thought this is like a shout out to ben they even did a close-up she was talking and then the camera panned down and gave a nice full close-up to that.

5:50They really, it was huge. It was like a log. It was like a log. It was as big as her. Yeah. Put some corn straw on the top of her head and it would have looked like Christy with a spray tan. I mean, she could have cradled that drink in her arms and become a cast member of Twin Peaks. Christy's like, it's hitting me that I'm the only parent and I know that they're adults, but I think they're just so buried with everything going on. I just want them to have fun again because boys will be boys and you know life will get better. My poor, poor boys going suffering so much in life. We've spent the entire season watching these guys mope about having to sell HQ.

6:31Selling off a combine. Gotta sell off some soybeans. Meanwhile, they're sitting there. They have enormous houses. They have city condos. They go off to Vegas and we're supposed to feel bad for these guys that like, oh no, things are tough right now. Please give me a break. Yeah, at least your cars are clean. So So she's like, it's hitting me that I'm the only parent. And I know they're adults, but I worry for my boys. You know, life is going to get better. Things are going to get better. I love you, boys. They're all like, we're going to get through this. So then the girls, Casey and Allie, are like, Allie, do you want to go back to the RV and have a discussion?

7:10And she's like, sure. So they go back and they're asking about Texas and Stephen meeting the family. and she's like, I mean, it's just like so much pressure because I thought my dad was going to give me his blessing, but my dad didn't even say anything, literally nothing. That's, yeah. And so she's like, yeah, my dad always is like, if you have to ask, that's your answer. And it took me a long time to figure that out and I'd be like, what do you mean by that? And he's like, did you not hear what I just said? If you have to ask, that's your answer. I'm like, but dad, I need to ask about, you're asking about the answer.

7:44And anyway, this went on for 20 years and I think I understand it now. and like that's always been his thing is that he didn't say anything and my family's the most important thing to me and i've messed it up in the past and maybe like being with people that they didn't approve of like i told them like i would never do that again and like i have to like verbally hear we're giving you the go we see this for you and i pledge allegiance the united states of america i need to hear that okay and we'd love this for you it's a big deal for me yeah um and And Allie's like, well, you know, like, yeah, that sounds really rough.

8:19It's tough having two Allies. So influencer Allie has so much personality. Oh, my God. I know. Okay. So she's like, yeah, obviously, like, I don't know you guys very well. Like, and obviously, when you start dating, you know, like, so you don't even know someone until six months. I mean, like, I was shocked, like, how everybody's saying that Steven gets mad all the time or that he has a temper. That's, like, crazy to me. I haven't even seen that. So how many months in do you need to be to get that? Yeah, thankfully it's not documented anywhere on television. So Casey's like, well, I'm sure Steven told you, but him and I have been having a few conversations about the tallow business, and I know he wants to bring himself and you into that.

9:07And Ali's like, oh yeah, that's what I told Steven too. I was like, I know there's been conversations around it, And I'm like, I don't know what you, like, I've said this to him candidly. I was like, I don't know, like, if Casey needs my help. I mean, like, I want help. I told you that. I want to help. I don't know if you need my help. Yeah, and she's playing it very much. Like, I mean, like, Steven, I told her, like, I'd help. But, like, you know, like, he wants me to have ownership. And she's probably thinking, who's this chick who's asking for ownership? Like, I was not part of these conversations, okay?

9:36Like, I mean, Casey's probably really confused. So I'm going to clear it up by confusing her some more. not that it's hard to do because it is casey you know so casey's like well you know it's hard because steven really does have a temper and so we see a montage of steve jr just being like

10:00yeah he's a great guy and casey's like he's scary when he's mad and ally's like well what scares you about him he's just scary it's like an explosion like everything's kind of like stevens where like no way and i just like i don't know how to use my voice so i'll just use it slowly and like he says he's listening to me and stuff but i feel like he's not and like i just think we should like sit and like talk yeah so it's like yeah we show because like i don't like bad tempers that's not God. And so Casey's very intimidated. And, you know, she thinks that they would get further with a meeting that's the couples, not just Casey and Stephen.

10:43But we'll have Cole, who, by the way, never does anything to stand up for Casey. So I don't know why she's calling Cole, because all Cole is going to do is agree with Stephen and just word it in a way that's different. And then Allie. So now they're going to have a couples meeting about it. So let's go over to Me's Coffee and Car Wash. You get free coffees with your car wash. Yee-haw! So Galena's at her desk, and she's wearing green, the cardinal of money. And Jesse, the boys come in, or Cole and Jesse come in, and, you know, Jesse has a baby, has the summer in his arms, and so Galena's like, oh, baby, baby, this is nice.

11:26And Cole's like, well, now that my dad is officially gone and not working here. We got to figure out how to redistribute that responsibility and make sure everything's getting done. I was like, okay, you guys seem like you're really on top of that now in this entire episode and when you go to Vegas next week. Also, Cole and Jesse are such wussies. So, you remember that just last week you guys were coming in here telling Galena she needs to stop going out of town and she's a do-nothing, good-for-nothing. And now you're coming in here like, Galena, what do we need to do? of course yeah before they go out of town yeah before they go out of town exactly so galena's like well i feel like it was always steven steven steven you know what i mean like hit me in face with football am i right am i right brady bunch so he is gone now and now we all know steven is traveling to austin more often i'm just talking a lot of stevens in same place you try to keep up sentence and uh i like that galena's immediately getting revenge with her oh and you know steven jr never here now always in austin uh-oh yeah so then ali appears out of nowhere non-influencer ali um i like to call this one charisma ali and she's like oh i'm here i just gotta get the baby okay when did when when did summer eat and jess is like oh you don't know when summer ate it's like uh okay i'm gonna go so then galena's like well so i know you guys just got back from trip how did it go saying goodbye to love of my life and jesse's like um it was like hard for everybody and like i think it was hard on him and like you know to like actually say goodbye yeah so oh yes i wish i was there just to kill a chicken to show that i'm part of family you'll know But obviously Someone had to be here Good old dependable Glena Okay Yeah well you know what You're doing more for Papa by staying busy Than you could if I like coming in the RV With us So you know Taking care of business I agree which is what I did So Glena's really rubbing it in She's like when it comes to business It feels like boys have been completely off rails am i right everybody hold on alexis bellino texting me okay i will be there possibly saturday or sunday um i'm sorry for the automatic uh insistence that you are part of car wash text respond y or n hey by the way boys here's an example of what we're sending out weekly to all of the managers, how many cars we washed?

14:18What is our current membership? Membership? Someone say something about membership. Oh, I don't know who that was. And, you know, projections. And Jesse's like, yeah, I'd be interested to see at our events that we throw what we do here, like the events that are here to what are we doing to gain membership from that? She's like, well, it's about generating brand awareness. I'm like, are we literally watching people talk about getting memberships to a car wash right now? Yes. That's what they're talking about. He's like, I just want to make sure that, you know, like the things that we're doing here, like translating into memberships for the car wash.

14:51You know, we need to make sure these parties are really bringing people in. Yes, what everybody wants from their local car wash. A party, a weekly cocktail party at the car wash. Guys, I would love to join for dinner tonight. Thank you so much for getting that reservation. I know it's a tough one. I've got a party at the car wash I have to go to. So, brain check. It's super important, guys. It's community building. Okay? You guys going to the car wash party? Okay. So, Galena's like, well, I know a lot has been happening, but you're going to NFR, right? And Cole's like, NFR? No, NFR. Oh, I was going to go to NFR.

15:35I don't know what that is. Well, yeah. I mean, I kind of want to figure out getting a booth out there to all our stuff for next year. So, yeah, I want to go NFR. So, Gleon's like, yes. I'm fully in support of this. For those who don't know, this means NFR, the National Finals Rodeo. This is where we will promote car wash.

16:00Hey, is your bull getting dirty as it chases clowns around the rodeo? Don't worry. We have special bull deal when you come to that car wash. Not just for cars anymore. Also bulls. It is the Super Bowl of rodeo. And then we get a clip of this Super Bowl of rodeo. There's like 10 people in the audience. Like, whoa. And Jesse's like, yeah, it's like there's all sort of events and sideshows. It's like Cowboy Christmas. Cowboy Christmas is the name of a real event. Also, probably gay porn. So he's like, Cowboy Christmas, it's a huge convention. It lasts two weeks. You have everything you can imagine for Western themed products.

16:46Hats. Boots. Hats. Boots. Things you put on your... Wait, hold on. I see. They look like that. Damn ass. Boots. Hats. There's so many different boots. And it'll be a good opportunity to get out there and see if that's like something next year. We could sell tallow. So because, you know, when you buy your cabal hat, you're like, this cabal hat's good, but it would be better if it had meat fat on it. So where's the tallow, too? Yeah. Well, you know, your dad is away. We should be focusing on bullwash. But you guys going there, advocating for products, promoting it, that is taking care of business.

17:33I say you go to Las Vegas. And Cole's like, well, I mean, you know, we will be. That's about all I had, talking about business. That's done today. Meeting's over. Kalina said to go to Vegas. She's like, well, this is not all I had. I have one more thing on the agenda. Did we see news? Masra went to prison for speeding ticket? Ha, ha, ha. Karma. She's a bitch, but she is a bitch I want to have lunch with. Am I right, boys? You know what? While you're at Cowboy Christmas, I'm now experiencing Kalina Christmas. because I got my gift, a mugshot of Masha. Ha, ha, ha. Yes, Masha has been taken to jail for two days for speeding.

18:20Now, how does she have to go to jail for two days when Galena's drunk ass crashed into a whole tree and she got out? I guess that really is the problem with Steve Sr. being in prison now because he's not going to be able to bail him out of everything or call the cops and, you know, one hand while she's the other. Cut to Cole make me like, wow, Masha going to jail. I mean, that's going to be two whole days we won't see her. I mean, by the time she gets out of jail, Blair won't even know who she is. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappin's commercial. This episode is supported by FX's The Shards, a seductive drama from executive producer Ryan Murphy.

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21:07And then in come Cole and Casey, two professional lumberers. Like, you want to go lumber up there? Yeah, let's go lumber up there. So they come in. And, uh, Stephen Jr. is like, hey, what was that Mel Robbins thing? People's energy? you're either a bluebird sky or a thunderstorm and she's like yeah do the bluebird sky bluebirds okay well Mel Robbins

21:30Steve Jr. sitting around listening to Mel Robbins it's hilarious ridiculous so Stephen Jr. tells us Casey and I had such a good relationship that it's really just fallen apart over the last few months we've been butting heads for a while now and that's just causing so much drama Monday engine. Which is weird because I was like, I never knew that they were best friends. I don't even see that. I feel like they've never liked each other. But also, I literally don't care. So, Stephen's like... That seemed to just come in today where suddenly Casey and Stephen were best friends and everybody knew they were best friends.

22:06I don't remember that being in here at all. That's why the show is so bad. Like, how are they planting the seed now in the episode that they need to call upon it. It's called building stakes into shit. This should have been something in episode one. Casey and I have become really good friends. So that way now when they have fights over the tallow business, it means something to us. But instead, we just have this low-wattage tallow situation. And then we have a bombshell at the end of the episode. I'm like, you mean you've been sitting on something that could have been driven some interesting past dynamics all season and just going to casually drop it at the end of this episode of tallow?

22:45I was like, this is why I can't stand this show. They're so bad at storytelling on this show. Yeah, this really came out of nowhere. So they sit down. Casey is like really pissy. She's just like has a look on her face like she's over it. And she's mad. You know, she doesn't want to. She's kind of a pouty look. So he's like, OK, well, thank you guys for coming in here today. And Casey's like, let's just get this over with. Aren't you the one who called the meeting, Casey? See, they just showed in the previous scene, you telling Ali on the RV, I think that we as couples should discuss this. And now they have a meeting and now you're all pissed off.

23:24It's happening. I support her being pissed off. I'd be pissed off, too. You're dealing with Steven Jr. He's so condescending. The last time they had a conversation, he was a total dick to her. I'm not saying I don't get why she would be pissed off at him in general. It's just weird that she would call the meeting and then act like pissy that she's even at the meeting and be like, let's just get this over with. Like someone forced her to come in here. you called the meeting you know it was more than this let's get together at the house because this way I can take care of Blair and then Stephen's like no it's going to be on my territory and he was probably a whole dick about it and then it's a whole thing because Stephen didn't want to do it someplace they finally have to go to the Farm Fullman Center which was inconvenient for everyone you know it was like there was more stuff going into this meeting than what we saw on camera I'm going to be conspiratorial about it okay so he's like well But the telebusiness, we've been needing to meet for a while now because I want this figured out.

24:18So that way it benefits all of us and there's no hidden animosity. OK, for someone feel like they're taking more of the blame than they should be. Casey, who's not doing anything. OK. And Cole's like, well, she just felt like the way that everybody's been, you know, like coming on, you know, and, you know, she's doing lots of stuff. And then people are like, hey, you can't keep up with nothing. but like she's doing stuff when she can you know but she's got a baby and stuff and there's like a baby at the house so it's like hard to keep up with stuff but then people maybe get mad that she's not keeping up with stuff what were we talking about again i forgot yeah because like no one offers to help unless there's like a percentage being talked about he's like well i don't think anyone should be expecting help unless they've got 500 of the company in case He's just like, yeah, but like, I help out wherever I need to help out all the time.

25:10And Allie's like, when you own a business, that's usually how it goes. High five, Stephen. I got one in. Finance degree. Finance. Yeah, Allie, stay out of it. This part's not, this isn't your part. And Casey's like, but I'm not talking about the tallow, though. I mean, the other businesses I help out with, you know? So Stephen is like, well, you know what? If we're expected to help, 100 % of the profits shouldn't be funneling to you, is what I was saying. She's like, I agree, but do you even know how to make tallow? You haven't even stopped by to look at it. I make tallow. And he's like, no, I have not stopped to look at it.

25:49That's true. I have no idea what's going on in any of this business. That doesn't stop me from saying I do. Stop me from getting a percentage of it. Stop me from saying I should be the boss of everything. Okay? she just pulled the do you even lift bro card about tallow because it's so steven he's like this with every aspect of the business he's like i'm the boss like you just flew in here from like la or wherever the hell he hangs out and not not shooting part of the season he's like i know everything there is that what do you mean you bought a soybean what do you mean soybean yeah what are you talking about so casey's like steven I have a complicated relationship and we were like really good friends at one point, but he's also my future brother-in-law.

26:34He's also now my business partner who tries to be my boss in every conversation we have. And I just feel like he talks down to me every single time. And so then Steven's like, as far as Allie making sure that she's incentivized, the value you bring to the online sales does become important. I mean, what are your thoughts called, Casey? Correct me if I'm wrong. This is kind of a marketing genius we got right here. I mean, Don Deutsch is more like we got Allie Deutsch right here. This is a smart business lady right here. Well, it's like, well, I agree. And I do think that, like, something that I want, like, Casey working with you on, like, it's like maybe she can learn from you and how she can, like, sell stuff on, like, Instagram and things like that and such.

27:12Well, yeah, but you know what? There's some concern. If Allie comes and helps with the marketing and then we break up in two and a half months, then she leaves forever. And what do you pay? You know, okay, how about this, Allie? Why don't you just, you're paid a commission based on everything you sell right now. And that way it's immediate. And she's like, oh, my normal commission is 20 % on 10 ,000 posts. So, yeah, there's no way. Okay, so you don't just want to help. Like, if you say, like, I just want to help, then that just means guiding. I don't think she should be working for free for these people anyway.

27:42And I don't think Casey is suggesting that. Cole kind of is. But I think Cole is just saying, why don't you give her the know-how and see if she can do it or whatever. Or I think if McBee Farms is going to be getting 40%, why wouldn't marketing and stuff be part of that budget? That doesn't make any sense to me. I think they're all just very dumb people. So Cole is like... I just put a needle into your brain. You're like... Lobotomized to you. Stephen's just... Cole's like, Stephen's just trying to give Allie part of his business to keep her around. I mean, it's kind of probably going to be a little harder to break up when you're business partners.

28:24And I've heard people baby trapping others, but I've heard business trapping. Steven's definitely doing that. So Ali is like, I don't know. I mean, I just don't see my role in this. I'm going to be honest. This is between you guys. I'll support you on the back and where I can. But if I'm going to get involved, it's going to look pretty different. I'm like, oh, wow. Okay. Thank you for your support, Barbara Corcoran. I get that Allie's a pretty successful influencer, but that doesn't mean running. She's not running the skincare companies that she's doing influencing work for. If they're paying her$10 ,000, you know, they're making it sound like she runs.

29:00She knows everything. She runs skincare. She's an influencer. Come on. Yeah, it's not the same. Is it? Do you think it's crazy? I don't think an influencer would just take a 20%. They would get paid by the post. But I don't know. I don't know how much you get 10 ,000, not you personally, but people get$10 ,000 a post. That's a lot. Yes, for sure. But like the other thing is people who do work for companies, it's reasonable that they don't get ownership stakes. They get a salary commission. There's like other ways you can incentivize someone to do work that does not involve giving up an entire fucking percentage.

29:40It's just ridiculous. I mean, it really bothers me that I have to spend time thinking about what the business structure of this tallow business is going to be and having to weigh in with my opinion. But this is where we are in the McBee family drama. This tallow generation. So Stephen's saying that this is fair and Casey's like Casey basically says she wants McBee to be the majority owner and Cole's like, I'm thinking and the farms get 40, Casey gets 30, and Steven, you get 30. And Ali's like, well, I think, like, what's your day-to-day gonna be? Like, how's that gonna go? And Steven and Cole's saying that, like, Steven's gonna run the business.

30:24And Steven's like, yeah, I'm gonna do website operations fulfillment, jerking off every few hours, and there's no more money out of the pocket from your end, okay? And then all the funds go back into the company, and no one's gonna take any funds out. I will tell you that one thing you know about the M &Ps, we are not gonna take any funds out from places that should not be taking funds out of from. Okay? You have my word and my daddy's word on that. Here's the thing. They just took more money from, they just took a bigger percentage from Casey, and Cole's supposed to be standing up for Casey. He just took more of a percentage from her.

30:54I know, why didn't you do that? Wasn't it originally that they, Cole, wasn't it originally a bigger percentage? Wasn't it supposed to be like 40-40-20 or something? McBee, then Allie, then Casey. than 20 % to her. And now it's Casey gets 30 % and Steven gets 30%. And the farm still gets 40%. Isn't Steven part of the farm? I'm confused. I thought it was going to be 60-40. Casey with the 60. No. Yeah, this is... I love that she's like, Cole, come in and stand up for me. And then Cole lowers her percent. He lowers the percentage. So, Allie's like, well, you guys need to align because like that was a pressing point for both of you like everyone wants to get paid right because steven goes yeah all the funds are going back into the company and no one is taking any funds out she's like well people should get paid right in case he goes well i haven't gotten paid anyway so i get what am i missing okay let me get this straight you had your man come in here to sit with you and bargain a deal he's lowered your percentage and now you don't get any money at all what the fuck what kind of partner is that it's like watching a bunch of bowling pins trying to hammer out a deal like i'm just waiting for that bottle to come down the alley and clear it out it's just it's ridiculous yeah so ali's like yeah this isn't how you do business i you know there's no operating agreement like they haven't even narrowed down exactly what everyone's role is, I don't know what's going on.

32:27So Stephen Jr. is like, okay, so now, just to make this clear, I get a bigger percentage, McPhee gets a bigger percentage, and Allie gets less of a percentage and never makes any money. Okay, is that a fair deal to everybody? They're like, yeah, I'm really glad. Casey's like, I'm really glad with what we did today. You know, it's just, I don't think I get credit that I deserve. You know, because like, maybe you can make me make a sale, but then the repeat customers come back because they really like the product and I make the product. Okay. So you're happy with getting absolutely nothing ever.

33:00Yeah. Thank you so much for hearing me out. Fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. So they leave and then Allie and Steven hold back, stay back. And Allie is like, so how'd you feel it really went? And he's like, well, it's very hard to do a meeting with Casey's attitude. I'll be honest. Oh God. Suddenly Steven is going to be policing someone else's attitude, when he's the one being a dick in every single scene of every single episode of all time and throwing up his microphone after he talks to Allie outside Jimmy's party or James whatever that guy's name is. Really? You're going to be the one to complain about someone's attitude?

33:34You're literally sitting out here foaming at the mouth complaining, Roy had raged out and you're going to complain about someone's attitude. So Allie's like, I was surprised that you didn't tick. He's like, well, are they out there? Can they hear me? She's like, I don't know. What's wrong? That's a scary face you're making. Oh, this is my happy face, actually. But did you hear, at the end, she says, oh, this product is mine. Casey says, Stephen, you haven't even come by one time to make a fucking recipe. Casey, I could hire$50 an hour to work. I could hire$50 an hour to make this fucking shit.

34:06Like, then why don't you? And that's exactly what Casey was talking about as far as, like, not being valued. He's like, how dare she accuse me of not showing her any value when I could get someone less than minimum wage to do the shit that she's doing, idiot. Well, you obviously think that there's value in what Casey's doing because why did you suddenly come in and decide you can blow this up into being a multimillion-dollar thing? And now suddenly what she's done is just like, oh, whatever. You can just get some temp worker and just throw it on there, get in some gloves and mold the tallow into a jar.

34:42Yeah. Yeah. So, um, Ali's like, oh, I don't think he's speaking up because he's afraid he's going to burst on TV again, and he doesn't want to do that. And she says, why didn't you say that to her face? He's like, because I didn't do that because she's sitting there already pissed off, and that's the problem with family businesses. You can't be direct like you would be with a normal situation. Literally, Casey was direct about everything, and the one who is the most furious is you right now. So, yeah, Casey was pissy. I mean, Casey did come with the pissy attitude, but I think that you're right that he's the one screaming and yelling all the time.

35:13And for him to judge that is crazy. Also, there does seem something we don't find out till later in the episode what is maybe going on. But first of all, it's super weird that he was like, oh, sure, Casey, you can make a beef tallow company with all of the products, all the discarded products of our cattle and just keep 100 percent. I don't, that sounded crazy to me that he would ever do that because it sounds very out of character. And then her coming in like clearly upset and then them talking, there is something fishy going on here. It's something, something weird. Are they doing it? Let's go to Jesse and Allie's city house.

35:55Jesse is watching the baby crawl around. And she comes in and, you know, their chemistry is burning off the screen. They still resent each other and stuff. Jesse's just sitting there with this creepy little doll smile. And now they're talking about Vegas because there's going to be this trip to Vegas for the cowboy Christmas. And she wants to go. And he does not want to go. And she's like, I think it could help our marriage. And he's like, well, I mean, I just don't get that. You know, the bank's got to see that somebody's working here. You know, if they look on Instagram and see everybody's in Vegas, then they're going to get real upset that, you know, Jesse McBee's not sitting there waiting for the bullwash to complete business for the day.

36:41Yeah. I think what's more damning is just filming this TV show. I think that's going to be worse for investors. Not you going to Vegas, the cowboy. You just shot a scene of taking your dad to prison. so Vegas is pretty small compared to that. Last week we watched you not be able to get out of a combine so you literally could not open the tractor door so well they say that these people we now have to double double check that yeah nothing important so Ali is telling us now We used to be so in love, and now we're just like friends who live together. So she's asking him why he doesn't want to go. And he's like, it's bad optics with my dad going to prison, and now we're all out in Vegas partying.

37:34She's like, it's clearly not the optics. Since when does Jesse give a shit about any of this? Yeah. And so we see a montage of their relationship. And Jesse says, I mean, the truth is that Allie and I's relationship is not the best that it's been right now. And I don't want others to see that. and let me tell you something we are seeing it and we're bored by it it's like we've always kept everything in-house and i really don't think it's a good idea to go out there and air out all our problems so they can give their advice and honestly it's not their relationship to like you're going to vegas bro like let's not overthink this you're gonna go get some beer do something weird and kinky at cowboy christmas and you'll come home and act like nothing happened it's fine if it was just a boy's trip he would want to go but that it's all the all the girls are coming to he's like no he's already avoiding ally as much as possible he would actually have to sit and have multiple meals with ally and spend time with her i think he's he doesn't want to be with ally so he could yeah yeah and he doesn't also want ally to go and like talk about how bad their relationship is with all the other girls and he doesn't want the girls to be like what's going on with you guys when do have you guys started your 10 days of intimacy he just doesn't want any of it.

38:47You're right. If it was just boys trip, he'd be perfectly fine. Yeah. They'll be like, kiss, kiss. You guys should kiss. They'll be like, kissing in public. What are we, praying for Satan to enfold us in his arms? So then we go to the Farm Fulfillment Center again. Big day at the Farm Fulfillment Center. Big day. Yeah, Steve and Cole talk about nothing. What is it? It's not called Fulfilling for Nothing. We go back to be fulfilled. They just keep me. They need to keep putting up the word fulfillment over and over to kind of brainwash you into thinking this is worth your time. So Stephen's like, you know, this whole tallow deal, it's got me more stressed because, you know, not because of the personal relationship with Casey, you know, but because of the personal relationship I have with you as my brother.

39:37I want this business to be what it could be. And I can see the potential. We're sitting on a good opportunity. OK. And Cole's like, well, me and her talk. And I said, Casey, you really did have an attitude the whole time. You know, I was like, you know, you're not really pleasant to talk to in that meeting, Casey. And he's like, yeah. Does she just shut down like that whenever you're arguing with her? He's like, well, she definitely just shut down a lot more when talking to you compared to with me and her arguing. But like, you know, she usually lets me hear it. Then Jesse walks in and is like, so, hey, Jesse, wait a second.

40:08Did you not get packed up for Vegas yet? Why are you not packed up? And Jesse's like, no, not yet. Or you better get packed up because soon we're going to have to get more packed up. He's like, yeah, we're about to leave here soon. We're about to go to Vegas for Catboy Christmas. He's like, yeah, I don't know about Vegas. What? What do you mean you don't know about Vegas? That's Catboy Christmas. And NFR. Rodeo and Christmas. Rodeo and Catboy Christmas is the best time of the year. The most wonderful time of the year. Just like the dog says, why aren't you coming to Catboy Christmas? I'm not going to Vegas.

40:39And that's the end of it. people have to know at least someone here cares about the businesses. Aren't you serious? This is the most important cowboy thing in all the planet. You better come. You better come to show some face. And he's like, well, someone with the last name McBean needs to be here. Okay. So, it's ridiculous. So, Cole's like, but mom, mom's got all these sweets out there. You got to tell mom you're not going to go and say no to mom. If you think mom's going to cry. She spent this entire fall getting pumpkins for our homes. Now, Cole, you do know that Mama left me, got us sweets.

41:16S-U-I-T-E-S, not S-W-E-T-S, right? Oh. Oh, okay. No, that's fine. I'm still excited about Vegas, I guess. Gotta eat. So Junior is like, he seems like he's in the funk. You think so? He's staring at the ground, like kicking dirt, being like, I just don't think it's possible. So, Jesse refuses to bend on this, and he leaves, and he's like, Fiva Las Vegas, bitches. He is literally the most pessimistic person about a cowboy Christmas I ever met. I mean, what's going to happen when I sit on Cowboy Santa's lap and wish for Talo, and no one's there to take a picture of it? You know, Colts would be lost in some sort of chocolate fudge fountain.

42:00Jesse's supposed to be the one taking the picture. Now who's going to take the picture of me with Santa Pappy? I don't get it. yeah so now we go to tegan shopping with uh ali and the girls at a country western store to get vegas stuff oh yeah it's be fun yeah uh yeah they're going to the fashion capital of missouri my grows western store so uh ali is uh she's like they're browsing through the dusty racks of clothing, and the girls all meet up with each other. Tegan comes in. She's like, guys, I dressed like ketchup today. They're like, oh my god, Key Tegan looks so nice. And Casey is like, I really like Allie, and I want to go get to know her on a personal level, but after the meeting, it's just like a little awkward for me.

42:53Yeah, and Allie's like, um, the telemeeting didn't go as expected. I still want to make sure whatever's between her and Stephen is between hard Stephen. So we're going to talk about that. So I'm going to bring myself into it by talking about it right now. Okay, Allie. So they're talking about how they're going to do a bachelorette for Casey. And it's a surprise. And she's like, wait, what is the surprise? Girl, they could do literally anything and it would be a surprise. I'm sorry. But just so she's not too shocked. Yeah, they just tell her. They're going to the Thunder Down Under. Crazy! I can't believe a reality show is gonna go see a strip show of men in Vegas!

43:39In case he's like, what is that? He's like, oh wow. We forgot that this girl only saw her first mountain last year. So Ali is like... And then Cole beat it up. I've never done seen a mountain before. So, um, it's strippers, strippers, and Ali's like, yeah, I mean, I did get my bum played like the congos and I got in trouble so I don't want to hear it. So they're like excited that they're going to be seeing some hot guys and then Ally is like, oh yeah, and this needs to be activated in a 10 days challenge by the way. How's the 10 days of intimacy going? And Ally's like, well, I mean that was out the window the day that happened.

44:1710 days, more like zero days. You know what I'm saying? So their relationship still sucks and Jesse doesn't even want to go. So they're like, what? We have to make Jesse come with you Let's find you something sexy Here at this general cowboy store I know Do you have any burlap lingerie?

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47:33Now we go to Jesse and Allie's house, and Jesse's just sitting there staring at Summer on the baby cam, and Christy walks in with gigantic coffers. I mean, get them a doll. They need wheels. They're huge. Rappuccinos. They were, it was like she brought in two giant arcade games. So, she's like, you want this coffee? It has Pac-Man on it. And so they're talking, and she's like, so I know the girls were shopping and you had summer and everything, so I thought I'd come up to see how you're doing. You know, there's such a thing as a sex messaging, Mom. You don't have to come all the way to this house.

48:13And he's like, yeah, I'm getting excited. I've been on you just mandolin' with a baby. It's just so hard on a man. He's like, yeah, it's me. I'm in charge of babysitting today. Really? Men still say that? So he's saying that he's not going to— It's your baby, dummy! I know. He's like, I don't know. I'm not going to go to Cowboy Christmas this year. She's like, what? You have to go. NFR. Come on, Cowboy Christmas. He's like, I could list a million excuses, but I think I kind of put our relationship on the back burner a little bit. Not that I wasn't still there, but it's like, okay, we have all this other stuff going on.

48:54So I don't know. It happens. And look, I kind of made a deal with the Golden Nugget Casino that we'd take up three of their suites and we'd get them for free as long as we showed three different suites on TV. So you kind of have to go. Otherwise, this whole thing goes to shit. But dad just went to prison. I don't think that's appropriate. It's like, honey, Las Vegas was built by either men in prison or men whose fathers are in prison. This is the most appropriate place to go. things are hard in my relationship well you know alice is suffering through a little postpartum that's something you can't really prepare for okay you don't know how that is you just need to go with ali for a couple of days stop staring at the phone is that a still picture on your phone he's like i'm babysitting you don't know it's like the optics of all those upstanding car wash and beef people in our industry.

49:53I just don't want them thinking that we are irresponsible. You know how it is. She's like, okay, well, just let Allie feel a little bit normal again, a little connected with you, and I think that would help. I mean, you've been her person since high school. And he gives this sigh, like, yeah, since high school. Yeah. Just me and Allie. Yeah. We see pictures of them as kids, basically. She's like, thank you. She talked on the phone 24 hours a day, and now you're telling me they can't get it back? Yeah. Looks like it. So then we go back to the women shopping at the cowboy store, and the conversation has moved to Stephen.

50:35Casey's like, do you think it's gonna be awkward with Stephen and I in Vegas? And I was like, do you think so? I mean, I don't know. I mean, what are you feeling? She's like, definitely not happy with them. Oh my god, are you guys mad at them? is everybody mad at him like no it's just casey and she's like oh my god i hope you're not mad at me just yeah you'd know if casey was mad at you you'd know casey give me a mad give me a look when you're happy give me a look when you're sad give me a look when you're mad see not really but i guess i'll trust you on that one so casey reveals a steven shocker sent her an angry text and told her that she was miserable and yada, yada, yada.

51:20And the text says, the attitude in that meeting, I want absolutely nothing to do with. And that meeting with you, I left absolutely fucking miserable. And it was like the whole text. Like, just the way you acted like that. I'm trying to make talent with you. I'm trying to get in the talent business with you. And the way you're acting is absolutely unattentable. That attitude, that little stupid attitude, now go to your room. So, Allie... As someone who is five foot eight and blonde, I naturally respect you. But this is too far. You haven't even tried to sell any memberships this afternoon, which is the only thing you can sell memberships.

51:55And Alan's like, what? I mean, I didn't even know that. That's crazy. Did you respond? And she's like, well, I've been calling him and texting him, and he won't answer about it. She's like, really? He told me you were the one who wouldn't answer. Okay, so you do know. You do know about this. She's like, well, I knew he sent a text, but I didn't know it was a mean text. And so Casey's like, typical Steven, you know, making himself sound like a hero in a story. So Ali's like, tell me about the text. What did he say? Because I didn't know that it was bad. And she's like, it was a bunch of rage text.

52:27So I just told him, I just want to tell you my side of things. And then he didn't answer those. And so I unsent them. He unsent them. Why would you do that? Yeah. Let them sit there. So Ali says, she's like, well, from what Stevens told me, he has a very close relationship with Casey. And I'm just trying to figure out exactly what their dynamic is. Let's put this finance degree to work, okay? Because the tension between those two, I think it's just weird. So she's like, I want to get to the bottom of it. And she's like, Ali goes, I need to ask someone to show me the messages. I'm like, Casey is literally right there.

53:04Why don't you look on her phone? Yeah, but Casey also just said she unsent stuff, which is, I don't know, who does that? Especially if you're having an argument with somebody, you want to keep the messages because that's your proof of stuff later. You whip out your phone. Duh. Are you guys new to Bravo? so um tegan's like yeah i would definitely ask to see them um but also like you know that he's sending that energy to someone else so part of you's got to be like god i hope he doesn't send that energy to me one day and ellie's like uh okay yeah yeah people with bad tempers they famously are really good about like making sure that people they love the most don't receive it so don't worry about it.

53:49So now we go to Steve Jr.'s Kansas City condo and Allie and Steven are there and Allie is like, hey, so the girls asked if you freaked out and I said he didn't and like how, but how mad were you actually? He's like, I was a man, I was working on my patience, a lot of Mel Robbins, a lot of Mel Robbins, like watching Mel Robbins and Danny Glover in LA fighting crimes and watching Mel Robbins and And, you know, with Goldie Hawn just, you know, trying to escape from bad guys. And a lot of Mel Robbins getting a little drunk and going off to Mooch's. You're talking about Mel Gibson? Oh, that makes more sense.

54:28You know, Mel Robbins. I would, you know, I would hear a ding, ding, ding. And I would say, kiss my grits, Mel. That's Mel from Mel Steiner on Alice. Oh, damn it. Oh. Oh. You know, sometimes I would just be listening to Mel Robbins. And I'd be like, you know what I got to do? I gotta say a shackle for your thoughts. That's Mel Brooks. Oh!

54:54So Mel Robbins made Apocalypto? You're back to Mel Gibson. Damn it. Okay, hold on. Let me look up Mel Robbins right here on my phone. Oh my gosh. I really respect this person. She's between 5 '6", 5 '8", and blonde. Perfect. Still gonna listen to Mel Gibson. That guy's got a lot of good advice. so uh ali is like yeah um so i want to talk to you about like patience and stuff and she tells us my most serious relationship there were signs before we went through with the wedding that my family strongly encouraged me to like knock a marriage person i was like what do you guys think of them and they just all ran away i was like guys stop playing this game with me i need an answer sometime in my life so there were red flags and i just want to make sure that like something like that doesn't happen again by dating steven mcbee someone whose red flags have been documented in pop culture for now going on to a third year yeah so she says like i was talking to the girls they're making you feel like you sent texts i don't know about because their reaction was you sent like relationship altering texts texts so i couldn't defend it because you know the three people that you know really well were making it seem like i was the one missing something so i was like a steven a liar it's like no and i will tell you this is not the first time that they have taken something, those three, they get together, and they take something, and they twist it, and they twist it, and they twist it.

56:17In other words, they're women. Okay? And we all know how women are, not you. Not you. You're the only one that's not like this. Cannot wait to raise my children with you in a private school where we talk about memberships. They need to spend more time journaling, specifically between 4 to 6 a.m. I'm sorry, that's when men journal, because the women are still asleep, because the woman wakes up at 6 a.m., if we remember correctly. But anyway, the point is this. They're women. They just get together. They got nothing else to do but just to talk and gossip and go after the man who wants to save them.

56:44And Ali's like, well, can you just tell me what these texts are? And he's like, okay, here we go. Thanks for meeting. I'm happy that how it went, isn't it? She's like, can I just see the text with my own eyes while you read him? She's like, okay. Well, I said, no offense at all, but the attitude in that meeting yesterday, I was absolutely nothing to do with it. I don't want anything to do with it. I will not work with someone who acts like that in the business meeting. I mean, you got a lot going on with Blair, and I don't want to run your personal relationship to work together. And when it's like, I don't want to ruin our relationship.

57:14When it's obvious by the eye rolling and the attitude that you're not happy with it. And as a woman, you shouldn't roll your eyes at a man because the man will be provided for you. Thank you very much for your time. So it just goes on and on. And it ends with, and candidly, being in that meeting with you, I left absolutely fucking miserable. But he's reading it kind of like it's calm. But Allie's just like putting her hands over her face like, oh, my God, like, duh. But then she says her answer to him is, well, that's really confusing because I don't know what messages they felt like they saw.

57:48If you got this message from somebody and you know the tone in his voice, you wouldn't take this as being told off. Come on, Allie. It's so condescending. At its best, it's straight talk, but condescending. At its worst, it's actually rude and aggressive. And calling somebody unprofessional and then being like, well, you listen here. I will not have that attitude. I look fucking miserable. Yeah, the whole, like, first of all, the eye rolling and the attitude, I'm not going to put up with that. Just say, I felt there was a lot of tension between us. I respect our relationship too much. I don't want to go down this path.

58:20I think that, like, maybe we shouldn't be working together on this because our relationship is more important. But instead, he's like, your attitude and the way you're behaving, that's absolutely crazy. You're unprofessional and you're just stupid. You know, it's like it was a terrible text. Yeah, he's like, but I read it back calmly, so that means I'm getting better at communication. And these three women standing around a cauldron making it into something it's not. She's like, yeah, I mean, maybe we should just call her then. Because, like, I don't got it. Okay, Allie. So Stephen says that he's really tried to improve his mistakes since his last relationship and be a good man and a good boyfriend and a good communicator.

58:59You're doing terribly, okay? And just saying over and over to the camera that you're working on yourself, it's very Bravo, man. You know? Yeah. It's just like, I'm a different man. No, you're not. You're doing the same shit. You just had a fit last week and screamed at production and threw off your mic. So Allie calls up. She's like, hi, Casey. Steven's with me. What are you doing? She's like, nothing. About to get my spray tan. I'm next in line. I got about a minute. the first time Casey has ever shown any urgency in her entire life. I've never seen her speak as quickly. So Allie's like, So Allie says, I just talked to Steven.

59:37We went through the messages and I will say there wasn't anything that was different than what he told me originally. So Casey's like, yeah, it's not the messages I'm concerned at. Like I was upset at first, but I just wanted to see where you and I were going to stand after that. And like, I had some stuff I wanted to say and tried to call you and then you wouldn't call me back, you know. And I said, I don't want to talk about the business. I want to talk about our relationship, Steven. You know, like I wanted to talk to you like myself directly to you. And not you on a fucking conference call with your girlfriend again, who you're trying to give percentages of my business.

1:00:19So he says, for me, Casey, the thing that I no longer will allow. is that I'm not going to allow myself to talk to you without Cole present, because I don't want to be playing a game of telephone, even though we are literally on the telephone, where you and I communicate and it gets back to Cole, and he wasn't there to actually witness it or hear it himself. And I think that puts me in a very, very precarious position. Like, I could have said some outlandish things to you, and there's no way it's proving to me that I didn't say it, because it's an offhand conversation between you and I. And Ali's like, yeah, well, I kind of disagree.

1:00:47I think you guys need to, like, talk more without Cole, okay? You guys need to, like, don't lose sight of that, okay? He's like, well, I don't know if I agree with that. Because when Casey and I are communicating directly and there's no one else involved, that's where things get made up and the major situations get in hand. For instance, the last time Casey and I would communicate directly, I would be telling her about my date. And then that's when Allie says, I have an inappropriate relationship with Casey. I don't happen during cowboy Christmas of all the time, the most precious time of the year.

1:01:12Whoa, whoa, whoa. So now it comes out. So he's been accused by Jesse's Allie of having an inappropriate relationship with Casey. What? So then he tells us a couple of months ago, Allie McBee, she was going around telling people that Casey and I had an inappropriate relationship. And it's weird that Cole needs to keep his eye on us. Whoa. The producer's like, where do you think she got that from? He's like, I think it comes from a place of jealousy because it was a female seeing me, handsome male, talking to a female. So that's pretty much all I got to say on that one. Listen, if you want to know what's inside somebody's brain, you need to check and see whether or not they have boobies.

1:02:01Yeah, that's right. He's like, well, how am I supposed to defend that? Because no one there is a witness of what's being said. Casey, do you agree? Do you not agree that the single most discriminated person in the world right now is a white, straight male? That's what I'm receiving right now. Casey's like, Stephen, I think that you and I just used to be able to communicate just fine. But I'm somewhere So it's hard to have a conversation I'm literally getting spray tanned right now I'm getting spray tanned Okay well we'll have a good spray tan We'll talk to you later bitch So Stephen says that he's never really discussed with Casey What Allie McBee said about Casey and I's relationship Just because it was so outlandish We were shocked, pissed off And now it's awkward as hell So embarrassing me to even have to bring this up right now And there is not one single thing That would be inappropriate between Casey and I.

1:02:48There never has been and there never will be, and now this makes it fucking weird.

1:02:56Casey is exactly on paper what you describe that you like. And suddenly, so, let's, I'll let, before I even say anything, let's see what Allie says. So, Allie's like, what? Did you talk to Casey? And he's like, no, I talked to Cole about it. And he's like, I understand it's a rumor, but it's so dumb. So, she's like, well, why would Allie start that rumor? Did you talk to Jesse about that comment? And he's like, no. Does he know about the comment? Well, I'm sure he does. Okay. Where would he have gotten that from? Where would Allie have gotten that from? She's like, I don't know. So she just pulled it out of her ass.

1:03:33He's like, I live on the farm. Colin Casey live on the farm with Blair. So I go over there a lot to see Blair. And I don't know if it came from a place of jealousy or why Allie would have said that. Stephen was just showing up to see a baby all the time. I don't believe that. It is weird. So Allie is like, well, it's a pretty bold statement to make. I mean, like where there's smoke, there's fire. I mean, where the fuck did that come from? She's like, you know what? It's so neat. So needless to say, there's a reason why I won't communicate directly with Casey one-on-one. And I think it's very, very smart of me to do that.

1:04:07It's putting me in a dangerous situation, and I don't like how you're telling me that because I need to communicate directly with Casey. And I'm telling you, hey, I'm not comfortable doing that because I don't like how you made me feel weird if I wouldn't want to do that. Like, okay, but like, you just communicated with Casey and Allie was there. So you had a witness that nothing, you know, crazy was going on. So why do you need cold air as well? And Allie's like, I just think it's weird. I mean, this is your sister-in-law. And the fact that you can't have a conversation face-to-face with your sister-in-law and you're going to be business partners with her, that's fucking weird.

1:04:36And I'm just going to be honest, that's weird without the context. And the context is even fucking weirder. Like, all of it is like fucking weird. and the fact that you and Casey never even talked about it is like, wait for it, even weirder. Really weird. This is all weird. Because if Steven, if this is all true and you're best friends with Casey and you're hanging out and then Allie's making some comments about it and it's completely ridiculous, I don't think the natural response is just, I'm never going to speak to Casey again. I think you guys would laugh it off and be like, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard and go about your day, right?

1:05:13You're acting guilty. But also, why would you go into business with someone who you can't be alone and have a conversation with, where you're concerned about that? So it is all strange. Again, I just think that this was really weird, if I'm going to use Ali's language, that they didn't plant this seed earlier in the season. This is so sloppy. Like, they just decided to, like, throw in this thing. We could have had, like, a very interesting personal dynamic going on throughout the whole season. There could have been something, stuff that we could have, like, cared about in terms of their relationships.

1:05:56This could have given us a way in to think about, like, maybe this informs why Jesse and Allie are having issues. Maybe he feels some sort of way about the fact that his wife, you know, started a rumor about his brothers and maybe like there's it like could have added so much texture to this show and the fact that they just like didn't do anything with it all this time to me just shows that like the mcbee dynasty is not in the right hands as a tv show well but it also kind of shows some shadiness of what is really going on because one second casey you're saying okay casey i want you to do this tallow business you're going to make a hundred percent of the profits, which sounds out of character, even though we know that this is true because he said it.

1:06:41So it's like he corroborated it. I mean, so that's odd in the first place. And then the new girlfriend comes in and then suddenly you're like, oh, no, you don't get 100 % anymore. Now this girl is going to get 20 % of it. And then she's sending him messages upset and then unsending the messages so they're no longer on her phone. and then he's suddenly coming out with, oh, well, we were just friends, and then they're making it sound like it's something more. It does sound like it's something more at this point. And at least Allie is smart enough to be like, no, there's something, what the fuck is going on here?

1:07:18This is nuts. Like somebody, or it's weird. So somebody needs to explain what's going on because when you come out with something that late, I don't even know if it's bad storytelling or if it's just somebody kind of backpedaling and trying to cover up something that's about to come out, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Well, either way, it is fishy and it is strange. And we'll be taking all these question marks with us to Vegas next week when they go to Cowboy Christmas. Will Jesse show up? Or will he be the only person that stays in Gallatin to show the banks that he cares? optics guys thanks everyone for being here and we'll catch you on the next episode of Watch What Crappens bye

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