#3484 RHOL S1E2: Flash in the Panthea

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2:25Ben Mandelker: new to these parts we've got a patreon patreon.com slash watch for crappins where we have bonus episodes newsletter ad free listening video it's all there it's a whole world so come join us over there today we are um we're we're going across the pond over to london uh laser london is we don't know if that's ever going to come back to us. We were given a gift with that show, and I think there was such an uproar about it being put on pause that Bravo was like, shit, we got to fix something. So they have thankfully given us Real Housewives of London. Now, it does not make up for the fact that Ladies of London is on pause, and we should have everything good, including Ladies of London and Real Housewives of London.

3:16Ben Mandelker: But in the meantime, I'm very happy that we have Real Housewives of London, And so we are here to recap the second episode of the season. What say you, Ronnie Karam?

3:26Ronnie Karam: Yeah, well, we did the first episode back when it came out originally on Hey You. And that was, I mean, 10 years ago. When did this come out? I think it was last summer. Yeah. I could be wrong, but I think it was last summer. In my life, I age like a dog. So seven years ago. And it was so funny. And we said, well, okay, we won't recap this unless it comes out on Bravo because, you know, most of our audience is a U.S. audience. And then it came to Bravo. I'm so excited. And it was so nice to finally see the second episode because the first one really stuck with me for so long that the first fight was about a child's dentist.

4:06Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Yeah, it was. The first episode was so good. But we had this weird feeling that it might come to Bravo. and I'm glad we held out for it because we thought a few times like maybe we should recap the whole show anyway and just put on the bonus you know like make it a patreon exclusive and we're like you know what we just think it might come to bravo and a year later it has now the next step is for bravo to bring back um real housewives of melbourne i don't care if the season four

4:33Ronnie Karam: happened many years ago what wait oh you mean bravo bring it back i'm sorry yeah yeah i heard I heard that Melbourne got renewed with only Gina as the OG returning. They're going to do a new Melbourne. But yeah, we haven't watched it since three. Since three.

4:49Ben Mandelker: We watched the first three seasons. So I would love for that to come back as well. But anyway, enough about that.

4:54Ronnie Karam: That was a good one. That's one of the all-time Housewives greats, Melbourne. Yeah. It was great. That's a good show.

5:02Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I think Bravo owes us that. So let's get back into it. By the way, in episode one We dropped on our feed last week So it's there, so go listen if you want to

5:15Ronnie Karam: Yeah, also the return Of London also Brought us the return Of Trixie Monocle And Three Arm Octopus, our favorite band Who creates music for these shows She is back in full force I mean, some of these songs she has on this show Are so good, one of them was like Gas, gas in a car Cars go vroom because there's gas in them. It's like, what the fuck is this song? What is it?

5:42Ben Mandelker: She's inspired by everyday life. She's of the people.

5:47Ronnie Karam: The light says stop, so I stop my car. And then the light says green and I move my car. It's a stoplight.

5:55Ben Mandelker: Paul, there's a pigeon on that bench. Quick, get me a pen. I've got inspiration. Okay, here we go. One, two, three, four. Pigeon on a bench. Pigeon on a bench. She's a boss bitch. Pigeon because she's a pigeon on a bench. The other pigeon's on the sidewalk. She's on a bench.

6:11Ronnie Karam: Why are you sitting down, pigeon?

6:17Ronnie Karam: So, his season one, episode two, Betrayals and Body Tapping.

6:22Ben Mandelker: Yeah. So, we start off at the park, and Juliet is with her husband, Tiggy, and Portia the dog, and she just got into a fight with Panthea about dentistry and borrowing clothes at What's Her Face's Women of the Year or International Women's Day. And so she's just sort of, you know, Juliet's wandering along. And then it's like, we lost our dog. And then we go over to Panthea's house and Panthea is scolding her housekeeper for putting out extra plates for her mom, which is always great. We always love when the housewives scold their help and you just see the help just looking like, I will get my revenge someday.

7:07Ben Mandelker: Someday it will happen.

7:09Ronnie Karam: Yes, this lady hates Panthea. Yeah. But not to blame her. Panthea's a lot. She is a lot. She is awful. She's like, oh, why are you putting out these plates for mom? Mom doesn't need these plates. My friend stole these when she went to the king queen's castle and she stole these plates and she got six. I stole six from her. Like, wow. They all brag about knowing the king or like being in proximity to the king and it cracks me up. Like, your friend went to a party at the castle, stole plates, and then you stole plates from your friend. Why are you bragging about that? You are so tacky. I'm embarrassed for you.

7:46Panthea is, like, wealthy,

7:50Ben Mandelker: and she tries to act like a lady of wealth, but she is not. And she is really, really tacky, and she's, like, abrasive in a way that's great for reality TV. And what's fun on a London show is how you see all the other women just absolutely disgusted by her. But what's so interesting about this show is that Juliette Angus from Ladies of London, the original, will be a cast member on it. She's on the ensemble. She's on the title card. But we haven't actually met her on the show yet. And Juliette Angus usually fills this role. So I don't know how – I'm so interested to see how this show is basically going to be with two Juliette Anguses on it.

8:30Ben Mandelker: it's going to be kind of a nightmare.

8:32Ronnie Karam: And another lady named Juliet as well. So there's two literal Juliettes and then another person that acts just like Juliet. So I thought that was interesting too because she even looks similar to Juliet. She does a little bit,

8:47Ben Mandelker: like with the little Ava Longoria mixed in too. So Panthea's mom. She's a monstrous as hell.

8:52Ronnie Karam: Oh my God. And she's really got theater kid energy. Like she's really coming on like, look at me, I'm on a television show. And there is a lot of that on most of the cast, I think, because they are new, you know, and they're really just giving it their all. But she's especially like, girl, I'm expecting her to whip out some tap moves or something. She's a lot.

9:16Ben Mandelker: she's really annoying. And honestly, I'm going to say this. I think her mom is annoying. I think she and her mom had a conversation beforehand about like what sort of scene they're going to do. Cause her mom, Shala arrives and Shala is already doing like bad improv. She's like, what? You dress crazy. You, this is crazy. You put on eyelashes. Why do you have eyelashes on? Whoa, this is crazy. I'm outrageous. Aren't I? What this kitchen? Look at this kitchen. What are you doing in this kitchen? I was like, okay, okay. you want to have a little bit of a scene this happens once in a while where like moms come on and they try to make a splash you're like okay all right thank you take a seat uh she's like

9:56Ronnie Karam: hypercritical a la mj's mom which i kind of do like she's like a higher energy version though where she's like oh what what is this eyelashes everything on you is fake it's like dull nothing like a human being. It's like, my mom's not just a mom. She's a glamour. Hmm.

10:14Ben Mandelker: My mother is larger than life. My mother's very up and down. But then again, I'm very up and down too. So glamour, she's like, well, next time I'm going to bring a knife because this knife is so dull. Crazy. I'm going to bring a knife. And so anyway, Panthea tells us that ever since a young age, probably about eight or nine, my mother made me stop calling her mummy or mum because she didn't want people to know that she was old enough to have a daughter. And I always thought I always had to call her Shala June. So Shala is her name and June means darling or dear. And it wasn't a nice feeling at nine to not be able to call your mom mommy or mom.

10:50Ben Mandelker: But I guess I just got used to it.

10:54Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she tells us about her kids. She's got three kids. One's going to boarding school. And it's the same boarding school that the princes went. Prince William and Prince Harry. the royals have been to the same school and then have sienna oh sorry go ahead i know i was gonna

11:12Ben Mandelker: say when she said that i was like oh don't tell caroline stanbury she's gonna she's gonna roll out her i was sent to boarding school too young and then lo and behold caroline stanbury shows up later in the episode i was like i should have known that this was gonna cause her to pop up on

11:26Ronnie Karam: the tv it's a trauma that a lot of them have i guess because they all send their kids to boarding school this one's got three kids and one the first one boarding school sienna who's a weekly boarder so i she only goes to boarding school through monday monday through friday and then coco uh who's the baby who's now eight who will be going to boarding school what i mean she has one year i guess so a lot of boarding school that's a lot um so panthea says i have my girls

11:56Ben Mandelker: home every weekend and my son home every other weekend and my eldest son for my first marriage so she has a son 29 who's in America and she sees him only about twice a year and she just she goes for me it's all about quality time rather than quantity time she's like meaning I will see you for about six hours on a weekend child and then you go away again and I can go back to flittering about

12:21Ronnie Karam: yeah she spent most of the first episode in bed like fully glammed out of course but you know being like i don't do anything isn't that hilarious and um so they're making they're talking about boarding school and stuff and how at least they come home on the weekends and why don't you come see a mom and the mom's like oh please i have things to do on my weekend i don't see children i'm a glamour i do wild and crazy things so panthea says is my

12:51Ben Mandelker: mom maternal? Not really. I remember once she called me up. It was my birthday. And she called to talk about something. And then two hours later, she called something else. And then three hours later, she called something else. I said, mother, at one point, are you going to say happy birthday? And she said, yeah, so. I'm the one that gave birth to you. What did you do? Aren't I outrageous?

13:10Ronnie Karam: That's kind of a good point, actually. I'm surprised more parents don't make that. Like, why am I buying you something on your birthday? I gave you life.

13:18Ben Mandelker: Isn't that what Wendy's mom said? Something to that effect? It was at the kids' graduation party. She's like, why are you celebrating them? I was the one who created these children.

13:33Ronnie Karam: So they tell Shala June that Siena made nationals for cross country. And she's like, so? Who cares? I was champion at table tennis. There we go. There we have it. She's officially Vita.

13:48Ben Mandelker: She is a new Vida. So then Coco's like, did Sheila ever congratulate you? And Panthea's like, never. She never congratulated me. And she's like, what? And she's like, she never even came to my school plays. Why do you think I come to all of your school plays? And Charles is like, no, I'm not the type. I'm not going to waste my time. Why would I go see some awful seven-year-old doing falsettos? Boring.

14:14Ronnie Karam: Falsettos. I love that that's the play at the boarding school. they're like you know what we really need to do a three part musical comedy saga about AIDS

14:26Ben Mandelker: there's been a terrible mistake we thought it was about teaching AIDS so we just cut out all of the AIDS parts we just had an end that track too we showed a little squash scene and then we just ended it

14:41Ronnie Karam: it's now about the common cold alright it's child friendly Five twos in a room Watching the hands Sorry, that's a very For people who don't know If I'll set out They're like, what are these guys talking about? Okay So then we go to the London Book Fair And Nessie, who is our probably most uptight Polite housewife She's like The London Book Fair Is the most Important book fair in the entire world. It's for literary geniuses, which is why I'm proud to announce my book, Cooking with Dinosaurs.

15:26Ben Mandelker: They say that Shakespeare himself once reincarnated as a ghost and came to this fair just to release a new play, but it was in ghost form, so no one actually read it. But they say it's around here somewhere. Anyway, Dinosaur Cooking. Please enjoy.

15:42Ronnie Karam: You understand that dinosaurs, they didn't have fire yet, right? Like they couldn't I mean, I guess this is supposed to be more fun for children, but

15:51Ben Mandelker: I think it's how to cook dinosaur. I think it's how to cook dinosaurs. Okay, then I'm in. Yeah, yeah. Because they'll be back one of these days. Jurassic Park that gave us the roadmap and eventually we'll have brontosauruses roaming around and then once we have the brontosauruses then they'll be harvested for meat. You know how it goes. It'll be great. Everything old is new again. Yeah. Yeah. At least for those of us who believe in dinosaurs, unlike, wasn't there someone on Bravo who didn't believe in dinosaurs? Someone that we liked? They were like, wait a second.

16:25Ronnie Karam: I'm sure there are plenty of people on Bravo who do not believe in dinosaurs. I don't remember who it was. Bravo's not a channel you want to say like, do you believe the earth is round? Because you really just don't know the answers you're going to get.

16:37Ben Mandelker: It was someone really, it was like someone, oh, it was that girl from Vanderpump Rules. It was the blonde girl, Audrey. Yeah. Who would have thought? Who would have thought that someone from Vanderpump Rules would question science? So Nessie is really excited. She says that aside from her cake company, she also has cooking with kids. And she's like, that's my social media channel. The children were fully integrated into the process of this. They were ground up and turned into pages. So no recipe has made it into the book without their say-so, which is why we have a recipe called Stupid Dinosaur I Hate You, and it's just peanut butter that you throw at a wall.

17:21Ben Mandelker: What can I say? It's a kid's recipe.

17:22Ronnie Karam: I do not want to eat your kid's cooking. That's period. I'm going to say that. Although I do like Nessie, I'm just, this is crazy. So she's meeting with her book person who has brought her the first copy of her book. So she's like, I'm going to cry just looking at it. Hold on. Something's about to come out. Am I crying? Do you see tears? No? Hold on. I'm feeling so many things. Guys, there is something wacky happening. Somebody is walking through here in a dinosaur costume. Who could that be? It's Juliet.

17:58Ben Mandelker: And Juliet is like, boo, boo. Guess what? Your favorite Australian actress is here to be entertaining for you. So she's here. Juliet, her whole thing was about... I remember in the first episode, I'm so sorry, everyone, because we watched the episode like a year ago. Her whole thing was that like, there's something with Shakespeare with her, wasn't there? Like they named their daughter Ophelia. Her name is Juliet. They're like obsessed.

18:21Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she names all of her children and pets after Shakespeare.

18:24Ben Mandelker: Right? Characters. And those characters always end up in such good places by the end of the plays. You know, Ophelia, love her journey. Juliet herself, I mean, really came out on top. Loved to see what happened with Othello. you know Richard III he really happily ever after that's just what these are the things I associate with all these people yeah

18:51Ronnie Karam: all signs of good luck for sure Juliet's the one that is being accused of she's been accused of being fake that she's fake she is very like hello it's me dressed like a dinosaur oh god isn't this wacky and hilarious you have a book Look, that is fascinating. Could, can't wait to talk to you. I'm so excited for your book, Nessie. So anyway, that last part of that woman was a real bitch to me, say. God, I mean, it's just, to me, it's just so horrifying

19:26Ben Mandelker: that anyone who would be at a higher rung of British society would be fake. I mean, of all places. Of all places. There's nothing sacred anymore.

19:35Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And Nessie is also, Nessie can be pretty faked. They're all pretty fake on the show because they're, you know, like you said, it's polite society. And Nessie's like, this is fascinating to discuss as my first dinosaur book has been printed. Please do go on, Juliet.

19:54Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And I just want to say one more point about the fakeness. It's just it does call back to like Mark Francis on Ladies of London, who is of the mindset that like, yeah, being fake is actually great. it's totally like an American thing to be like you are acting so fake and he's like well why wouldn't I I think it's actually so lovely to be fake yeah

20:16Ronnie Karam: so it's funny that Panthea is also shocked because Panthea came to Women's Day and just attacked her and you know accused her of not appreciating the child's dentist and then taking the child's dentist side when there was a problem and Juliet's like but darling I mean this was six years ago can you believe it she's coming in with something six years ago six years ago that dentist shit is six years old i i did not realize that at the time that is really desperate panthea

20:45Ben Mandelker: is desperate to be a reality star it's just i think i think that's why i really am not into her because she just is not effortless like my favorite ones it's time for a commercial it's time for a

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23:22Ronnie Karam: um but that is hilarious the addition of it she sees me at parties and then she cuts me out of pictures yes team juliet so far so he's like but you were friends once upon a time don't you remember darling you did hang out and she's like but then she double-crossed me ed once twittin once bitten twice shy. Three times not your dentist. Do you understand, Ed? She lies. She lies about everything. It triggers me, Ed. It triggers me. It triggers me when people lie.

23:53Ben Mandelker: Yes, two things that get you are lying and people pretending to be things that they're not. That's the same thing, Ed! The other thing that triggers me is when people put the same bullet point twice in different wording. I'm so sorry, dear. I'm so sorry. I can't bear it. Just own it. Just say it. They're phonies, Ed. I have a question. When Panthea talks to her husband, does she end every sentence with Ed? Because I feel like that's all she's doing.

24:19Ronnie Karam: I think so. And she's just so intense and emphatic about everything. She's like, come on, Ed. Come on. You know I'm saying the truth, Ed. You know it. Because Ed has that look on his face where he's like, darling, can we just not have a fight in public just for one night, please?

24:34Ben Mandelker: Don't be so daft, Ed. So now we go back to Blonde Juliet, and she's like, I would love to get to the depth of what has made her like this. And if I've had any part in triggering that, I will apologise and find out what it is. And Nessie's like, you're so gracious. She's like, just like I am, inviting all those children to cook dinosaurs. It's like, yes, that's right. But she's a little bit of a loose cannon.

24:58Ronnie Karam: Well, listen, Juliet, Karen has invited us all to dinner. How do you feel about coming along to the dinner? even though you know that Panthea will be there. Jack, listen, I just want it to get resolved. I don't want it to be awkward for anyone involved. RRAH! Sorry, just staying method for the children passing by. RRAH!

25:18Ben Mandelker: If she has any issues, we should discuss it. The problem is Panthea doesn't listen. Panthea speaks to you, and that's definitive. So Nessie says, well, how would you feel about me reaching out to Panthea to try to kind of resolve things? and she's like, listen, any avenue that she's going to be receptive to it, I'm happy we can go down that route. She's like, well, I will try and dig and find out what's going on. At the very least, we can laugh about her being an insolent pig afterwards.

25:47Ronnie Karam: Okay, go for it. Yeah. So then we go to Amanda's house. Amanda, glamorous Amanda. Love Amanda. She's like, darling, everyone knows who I am. I'm Amanda. I'm a bit of a myth she's so up her own ass yeah Amanda's always in the papers but she's clearly calling the papers she's like clearly calling the gossip vlogs everyone knows who I am I'm myth Amanda the only person with a beauty product made in London

26:23Ben Mandelker: she is so funny she really is up her own ass she's like she really she just had her whole vibe is hilarious to me so she's like i'm still thinking about how panthea came to my women's day event she came in touched the joint and left it was just embarrassing to do that at me amanda's house i thought julia handled it very well but honestly i'm not going to get involved i'm gonna stay out of it because i'm amanda look i'm also one of the people watch

26:58Ronnie Karam: me calling my stepdaughter, Sophia, aren't we just friends? Aren't we just girls? Sophia, tell me about schooling. That's hilarious. Sophia, all of my children tell me, you're hilarious. You are the most hilarious person. They love me. They just call me cool mom, the only mom that people want to be around. Me, normal Amanda. You know, my daughter, my stepdaughter's 25, and being a young mum, there's not such a massive age gap between us.

27:32Ben Mandelker: Only about two years or so. I had her very young. That's why, if you do the math, you can see that I'm obviously 28 years old. By the way, Amanda is 57, and she's like, there's such a small age gap between me and Sophia at 25. Oh, it's so hard being a young mum. But then at the same time, you can do cool things with each other like a TikTok or electric slides.

27:57Ronnie Karam: There is a 22-year gap in case anybody wasn't doing the math. I thought her daughter was...

28:03Ben Mandelker: You're right.

28:04Ronnie Karam: Well, her daughter is... Basically the same age. Huh?

28:08Ben Mandelker: Yeah, her daughter is 28. Her daughter is 28. So, yeah. The point is that she was acting like she had the baby when she was 15 or 16.

28:18Ronnie Karam: Hey, in case anybody else wasn't doing the math out there, they are 76 years apart. Right.

28:23Ben Mandelker: This is not Gilmore Girls. That's the point. And she's like, being a young, hip, cool mom with a very small age gap. In fact, some would say it's the first time in London that the mother's actually younger than the daughter. It was the craziest bit of science, but it's true. I don't know. I just become a cool mom.

28:43Ronnie Karam: Yeah. It's just very difficult, you know, when you're basically the same age and you're having to say, TikTok, just make sure your penmanship is good on this application you're using.

28:56Ben Mandelker: Sophie and Sophia, actually, I'm sorry, Sophia and Sophia, one's with PH, one's with an F. Well, they're always like, Mom, you are so funny. It must be because you're the exact same age as us. And I say, it is because of that. Thank you.

29:12Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So she's like, well, you know, it does get quiet on the weekends. You know, Sophie is away, Sophie's away. You're not here. The other Sophie is not here. There's no sort of man around anymore. During my divorce, I didn't see my kids for a while. Yeah. A couple of, well, it was a while. I had to win them in the divorce. Mainly because I was in the womb.

29:34Ben Mandelker: I went back into the womb and lost 10 years. So the age gap is completely reversed. It's incredible what science can do.

29:41Ronnie Karam: You know, I went to first grade. They were in preschool, right pre first. Very, very difficult.

29:51Ben Mandelker: I didn't see my stepdaughters after, during our divorce, but that's mainly because I was at uni and they were at a different uni. And once we both graduated the exact same year, we then were reunited.

30:03Ronnie Karam: But now that we're back, you know, it's just, I'm a person who loves bridges. I love bridges. You know, it's like the phoenix rising from the ashes. I love that concept.

30:16Ben Mandelker: I love bridges in Phoenix, Arizona. When I went and visited, I was like, let's just drive over this tiny bridge over and over again. Listen, there's not a bridge I don't love, whether it's Beau, Jeff, or Lloyd. Give me all three.

30:36Ronnie Karam: So then we go over to Karen at the nail salon with her daughters, the nail bar, Jolin and Yovana. mm-hmm so uh karen she's like besties with her parents with her kids but she's like you know it's different i'm different than how i was raised i'm a very strict background and with my children i'm more open we tell each other everything we're like sisters sometimes the last episode she's like we're redoing this house the kids will have their own apartment self-contained and she's like so we're not do we get to come into this kitchen she's like no you'll have your own kitchen you won't need to come here into this house we're not going to look

31:19Ben Mandelker: at you so she's talking about how she's strict and everything and then she finds out that her younger daughter has been dating and she's like what what you're not allowed to date until you're 16 and by 16 i mean 34 what is wrong with you yeah she's like you're not allowed to date till

31:38Ronnie Karam: you're 16, madame. So then she's telling us about her fashion line. And she's like, my samples have been approved. My clothes have all been shipped from manufacturers. And now it's just up to me to do social media for my clothing line. And her older daughter is very polite and sweet, but I get a sense that she thinks her mother is obnoxious as hell because she's always just like, oh wow you've got your clothing line coming out wow what passion it must be a monumental moment

32:11Ben Mandelker: for you mother she's like it is she's like and this is just the beginning um so then we go over to the pilates studio and it's amanda's there and nessie and they're they're going to do pilates And then Katie, who's like the friend of, she is actually their Pilates instructor. But they're not just doing Pilates, it turns out. So they're going to be doing something else entirely. It's going to be called Chinese yoga. Or actually, I'm sorry. That's what they call it. But it's apparently, what's actually called is Qigong. And so now we get to see how Katie is going to probably bastardize whatever this is.

33:00Ben Mandelker: Yes.

33:01Ronnie Karam: It's definitely one of those times where you're like, oh, God, thank God this show is not an American show. Like, we don't have to, you know, you don't feel that need to be like, oh, God, sorry, other countries. Yeah. How we're, you know, imitating you over here or whatever. She's like, welcome. This is basically Chinese yoga. alright smack yourselves on the wrist and start going hee ho hee I was like oh no no and they're all white lady shit for sure I've seen tapping obviously she's doing basic tapping but she's added in all these sounds and stuff and she's like we must smile big to the heavens and say woo woo woo

33:40Ben Mandelker: she's making all these noises like oh god it's funny cause last episode I remember thinking god you know this katie woman seems great why didn't they make her like a full-time cast member and then we cut to this scene of her being like, I was like, okay. She botched it. The producers were like, yeah, we're not having this lady as a full-time. So they do this whole exercise and all the real housewives are mortified. You can see them. They're like, we are not doing this on camera. They're just sort of like swaying back and forth and sort of moving, but no one's really doing it. It's only Katie's the only one who's into it.

34:17Ben Mandelker: And then they finally sit down and now Now it's time to gossip.

34:21Ronnie Karam: I was cracking up at Amanda though, because they're all looking around like, this is so stupid and crazy. This doesn't make any sense. But Amanda's like, you know, Chinese medicine for me, I lean into it probably more for stress during my divorce, during that stressful time. I lost everything. I lost a lot. So God, thank you for Chinese yoga. Really came in. Stop it. You did not.

34:50Ben Mandelker: so Amanda's like so how did you all like my women's day party you're welcome everyone for being invited and Katie is like well I thought it was amazing and Nessie is like well what did you think and then Amanda's like well I thought it was a lovely party thank you so much me for inviting me and obviously I've not seen another woman lay into another woman like that before my life and then that whole layering of the stuff on top of it. It just was so unpleasant, like borrowing clothes. That's just a little bitchy for me. But what do I know? I'm just some earnest member of Generation Z.

35:32Ronnie Karam: I guess it's just another thing that kids don't understand. Am I right? When she was talking about this, I was cracking up because they show the coming this season at the end of last episode, and they should just show Amanda being so nasty with people. And at one point, they're at some castle or something, and she's like, you shut up, you pea-brained, you dumb idiot. This phrasing cracked me up so much, and she's like, oh, I've never before seen a woman lay into another woman like that. Crazy, isn't it? And so they're like, yeah, that lady's seen, everyone else is kind of agreeing with her. And Karen's like, well, from my observation, Panthea wears her heart on her sleeve, you know.

36:15Ronnie Karam: and she explained everything and it seemed like she was more loyal to Juliet than Juliet was to Panthea. So for Panthea, maybe it's loyalty. At the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing. So she's team Panthea and as we find out later, it's just because Panthea is at least interesting. She's at least fucking funny. She'll say anything.

36:35Ben Mandelker: But Nessie is not. Nessie is team Juliet. So Nessie is like, well, I would say that Juliet's really loyal. She did dress up like a dinosaur and walk around the best book show in the entire world for three hours until she found my boots. That's loyalty right there. I've known Juliet for years, and Juliet's never been the person to shout over someone else, and when her time comes, she would explain everything.

36:59Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and Karen's like, well, I'm not going to judge Panthea and make her look vulgar. I can't do that. She's like, no, but I don't know Panthea, so I'll continue to judge her. I think she's vulgar in my mind. Thank you. I make cakes.

37:18Ben Mandelker: So Nessie's just basically like, yeah, I just think that Juliet needs the floor. They're like, yes, she does. And Karen says, I just hope the girls can come to a good reserve at my dinner party. But I think that Panthea and Juliet are just going to kick off again. So maybe that's just wishful thinking. At which point we now go over to Jimmy Choo and we see Juliet. And she's meeting up with none other than Caroline Stanbury, fresh off the traitors. at least for us traitors hadn't happened with this film but whatever she is here and she's here to shoot a scene

37:51Ronnie Karam: she's like hello it's me Caroline your store is disgusting thank you I will take a glass of champagne

37:59Ben Mandelker: so Juliet's like my good friend Caroline is here from Dubai we go way back Caroline was a friend with my husband even before I met Caroline and you know I think it was her Jerry Halwell my husband they would go out to the clubs all the time and we have a lot of laughs and a lot of history together. One time she came to my house and said, this place looks disgusting. So many laughs that we had that day.

38:24Ronnie Karam: I thought it was funny that she's like, oh, me and this woman, oh, we're so tight. Yeah, the memories. Yeah, my husband knew her. They would go out with Jerry Hallowell. That's not your memory. You're trying to make that sound like it's your memory. There is a sense in here of ladies of London. You remember how that one lady knew, why am I blanking on her name? The main lady, our favorite one. Caroline. Who was like, oh yeah, I knew your husband. Huh? Oh, no, this lady's of London. Yeah, the newer ladies of London. Kimmy. Where she knew the husband and she was more friends with the husband. And we never got to see how that's going to grow into a beautiful flower as the years go on.

39:07Ben Mandelker: I know, seriously. so Caroline's just there to shoot a scene and she's just happy to and you know but Juliet's talking about how her daughter and Yasmin also started university together Yasmin is Ophelia and Yasmin Ophelia's Juliet's daughter Yasmin is Caroline's daughter as we know and so they're just like catching up and everything and basically Juliet's like well she's like I don't know why I'm talking about you know I left I left home at 12 and 12 and a half and just it's just so different with boarding schools these days. Caroline's like, well, I left home at six. I was sent to boarding school and it was terrible.

39:43Ben Mandelker: Let me tell you about all the ways I was terrified. They put me in a brown uniform every single day, wearing brown. Could you imagine? Hold on one second. My husband is calling really quickly. Barari, Barari. I'm sorry, what were we talking about?

40:01Ronnie Karam: It was awful. It was this cold stone building and everyone's shoes. I mean, you'd look at the bottom. No one had red on the bottom. I mean, you can't even find a shoe today without red on the bottom. Just look around you here. It was utter poverty and misery.

40:20Ben Mandelker: If it were anyone else, I would laugh. But it was me, so it was terrible.

40:24Ronnie Karam: And Julia's like, oh, my God, you went to boarding school at six. Girl, you were really not loved, girl. I'm joking. Why are you not laughing?

40:35Ben Mandelker: I don't laugh. so then julia tells us that she went to music ballet drama school she's like lady diana went there and jane seymour went there and also the british lady in the taste of choice commercials so i mean it's got an amazing history with some of the best training in the world and we just see like young juliet being an actress which is exactly how we'd imagine it to be like probably singing songs on a lute at ren fairs and stuff and now ophelia's about to leave the

41:10Ronnie Karam: nest so i just want to like grab my children hold on to them and never let them go so anyway do you know amanda you know you know a girl named amanda she's like of course i know amanda

41:26Ben Mandelker: she's she's doing okay i mean no man at this point so i mean how okay can she really be am i right? I think she's kind of taking her time. It's probably the first time she's been single, I'm sure. Caroline's like, well, she had one of the biggest divorce settlements in the UK, and she did really well. She's an icon.

41:44Ronnie Karam: Well, good on her. You know, I suppose if you're going to have to divorce, you want to come out well. She's like, yes, exactly. Can I try these in 18 different sizes just because I can, poor person? Thank you.

41:57Ben Mandelker: well i guess the only step left for for amanda is to marry a 28 year old man with no brain and still doesn't understand where babies come from okay well it's been fun shooting a scene with you i'll see you in another 10 years yeah caroline's like well was the divorce good enough

42:14Ronnie Karam: that she could date uh someone half her age and keep him in fresh clothes and filters i didn't think so. Nice try though, Juliet.

42:26Ben Mandelker: So now we go over to Sabine Rooftop Bar and it's time for Nessie and Panthea to have a conversation to get to know each other a little bit. So Panthea Nessie's telling us, Panthea's mercurial. She's unpredictable. So I'm going in with a little bit of trepidation. That's why I've chosen public space. Because what's the worst that could happen?

42:50Ronnie Karam: Oh, okay. You know, most of the atrocities in the world have happened in public spaces, right? Yeah, a lot can happen in public spaces. Don't read the news. So Panthea is like, well, I presume you asked me for lunch because I know that you're very good friends with her. And you just wanted to air things out. All right. All right. On game. Go ahead.

43:14Ben Mandelker: Yes. Well, Juliet is a good friend of mine. And I saw how upset she was by everything. And then I didn't see you for the rest of the party. and I just thought it'd be nice to get to know you and see if you're just as awful as you seem to be the first time around. Well, here's the thing.

43:29Ronnie Karam: I hate bad vibes. All right, I hate them. And I left that night. Meanwhile, she's the one who came in and started shit from the very beginning and then like stormed out. She's like, yeah, I just hate bad vibes. And I left that night. I didn't want to make a scene and I was just feeling when somebody's fake, it just triggers me. I just hate fake people. Isn't that right, Ed? Come on, Ed. It was triggering Ed.

43:54Ben Mandelker: Nessie's like, do you think that she was overly nice? I feel like that's how she is generally every day. She's like, well, she was. You know, I see through it, Juliet, okay? I understand that she can be a very good friend to you, but she has done things to harm me. And for me, betrayal is everything. It's the loyalty and it's the trust. She's like, but you've got to admit you came in guns blazing. It was toxic behavior and she was shocked. everyone was shocked. You can't just leave a trail of destruction. Do you think it's like beyond Juliet? Like how come Juliet has that impact on you? Do you have a traumatic backstory that you could use right now?

44:34Ronnie Karam: Because when people lie and they cheat, they lied and they cheated. You're talking about a dentist. Someone barked loving. You're talking about a dentist, for Christ's sake. It's like, I have a loyalty issue. Maybe because my father left when I was 13 and my ex-husband lied every day of my life. I didn't know he had four wives and ten kids, and, you know, three months after being pregnant, he got somebody else pregnant. I mean, so forgive me. He's just like, oh, what? Oh, wow. My husband, I was sorry. I just found out my husband had multiple wives and 80 children. Excuse me for living. So that's why I don't like liars.

45:14Ronnie Karam: That's what I don't like when someone takes the dentist that I recommended and then takes their side when I was trying to fight with the dentist about how much they were billing me for cavities.

45:27Ben Mandelker: Before Ed, I got married very young, 21. But that relationship, I thought that was real love. And it all came crashing down. His ex-wife called me to tell me that she's pregnant whilst I had just had a baby. So this guy was a bit phony. And so I felt my world had crumbled. and to be a single mother with a son, I had to keep that smiling, that happy face. And when you see a happy face, you see happy teeth. And when you don't get good teeth, it obviously is going to trigger a lot of trauma. Don't you understand now? Dentists are triggering for me.

45:57Ronnie Karam: Well, it is quite a breath of fresh air to hear somebody speaking their mind in this town. So I'll give you that. And I'm so glad that we're sitting here together. do you ever wonder what the salad would taste like if it was made out of t-rex

46:20Ben Mandelker: nessie is so uninterested in panthea she has no respect for her and she's like oh this woman's awful so yeah of course the way she says i don't like your honesty i love that you can speak your mind. Her, like, her way of saying, I hate this bitch, of saying, I really feel for her. To go from being in love with someone to finding out that they betrayed you to then being a single mother, that is such a huge amount to undertake at such a young age. And now that I've established that, in spite of that, I still don't think it's warranted such a public humiliation of Juliet.

46:57Ronnie Karam: She has to let that go. Clearly, you have some kind of respect for each other. Otherwise, you wouldn't feel the way that you do so that said karen's hosting a dinner would you be willing to come and move on and respect and she's like well i'll be honest that i can do i'll get it off my chest i mean listen let's just agree to disagree because i know i'm right we can move on who cares just me chill chill panthea yeah exactly commercials here comes one right now One thing my mom loves is to bargain hunt. She will go to a garage sale, to a flea market, any old sale at the mall. I'm taking her from sale to sale to sale to sale.

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50:57Ronnie Karam: there I've done everything I love when they do that they're like I did this entire party myself and they walk in they're like I moved a flower I do the best parties yeah so Panthea comes in and she's like, oh my god, what a place! And Karen loves her. She's like, she's funny, she's loud, she's got a lot to say. You know, I like her vibe. I like her energy. I could really see us being friends, but I wouldn't see a dentist with her.

51:28Ben Mandelker: And then Amanda and Juliet are in a car together. And Amanda's like, how are you feeling about tonight? Are you looking forward to it? And she's like, well, obviously I'm a little anxious about my last meeting with a pianthea. I mean, it was a lot of shouting. It was shaming. It was pretty shocking, to be honest. And Amanda's like,

51:47Ronnie Karam: Well, it's just not conducive to being in a group with elegant women.

51:53Ben Mandelker: It's not. And so it's like, you nailed that on the head. So the best like, well, maybe you can move on.

52:02Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So Blonde Juliet's like, well, I hope we don't have another Jekyll and Hyde moment with her. So now we go back to the restaurant, and they arrive and everybody's, you know, giving each other sweet little hellos. And Juliet's wearing this cheetah print dress that kind of is almost like it's a party dress. I thought it was cute. And Panthea's like, oh, of course, Juliet's a bit overdressed, as usual. How is she overdressed? She's not dressed nicer than anybody else.

52:33Ben Mandelker: Yeah, she looks pretty consistent. so of course Karen seats Juliet and Panthea across from each other and so Panthea's like she's like Karen literally has my name on the card opposite Juliet I don't want to be staring her eyes the whole time so then Karen gives a speech saying that she hopes that they can all move forward because it's a sisterhood blah blah blah blah blah so they all clap

52:56Ronnie Karam: I feel like that's aimed at me am I right girls am I right so now they're making small talk and someone's like, oh, what kind of fish is this? Does it have the skin on? And Amanda's like, oh, I thought you were talking about the fish on the skin, the sperm facial. All right, ladies. Not that I would know about that. I'm not quite old enough to get one of those.

53:24Ben Mandelker: I've only learned my letters a few days ago. I'm afraid to say I'm seven years old. So Nessie tells a story about how she met her husband, Remy, And she talks about how, you know, like we're not we are we're celebrating 19 years. I met him when I was 22. We met on a train platform and then it turned into a date and the date turned into a brunch and then brunch and drinks and drinks and dinner. And then she's like, your place or mine. And then he came over and the rest is basically history. And they're like, whoa, wow. It's always the quiet ones. Look out.

54:00Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So then Karen is asking Amanda if she's dating. And she's like, I go on dates from time to time when mommy and daddy allow it. And she's kind of squinting at everybody, which is really funny. And then Karen's like, but any special person? And she's like, well, you know, people are interested in me, of course. That's not an issue. But, you know, I am taking my time, girls.

54:29Ben Mandelker: I did match up on Raya with Peter Davidson So I've heard that people are shipping us, as they say So I don't know, it's a young person thing

54:41Ronnie Karam: She told us in the first episode that she's been dating the other guy from Wham

54:45Ben Mandelker: Yes Whatever that guy's name is The other Wham It's like, you know me Andrew Wrigley is his name

54:53Ronnie Karam: Always somebody famous, celebrity, rock stars You know, the other guy from Wham That's right. I'll wait until the applause is done.

55:02Ben Mandelker: You know, when I think about my dating life, there's been a lot of erasure. Literally, I've dated all the members of erasure. I think they're all gay, but it was fun. Well, it lasted.

55:15Ronnie Karam: So Panthea is like, oh, there's a lot of buzz around Amanda. She's got two divorces, I've heard, and her husband apparently was worth$100 million. Oh, she got a very good settlement. And some people say$20 million, some people say$50 million. I mean, you don't really know. Some people are just so clever. I'm the only one that gets out of a marriage and leaves with nothing.

55:34Ben Mandelker: And by the way, what led up to her saying that is that Panthea is talking to Amanda and she goes, well, you've had the experience of being divorced twice. So you definitely know what you don't want. And Amanda just nods and gives this smile like, you cut fitness. Yeah, she's giving her laser eyes. Yeah, this is Amanda's superpower, is that she can smile and squint her eyes and just give the nastiest, coldest look at someone. And she does it to Panthea about five or six times in this entire scene here. So then Amanda is like, yes, well, in my divorce, it was tricky and I kept my daughter's status, you know, to the expense of a lot of things I was doing.

56:18Ben Mandelker: And so Panthea's like, well, I heard, I know you don't like rumors, but people do hear rumors. And I heard that you were so clever that you made your ex-husband because he doesn't have any heirs. He doesn't have any children and stuff. Right. And Amanda's just looking at her. No, no, no, no.

56:34Ronnie Karam: That's not true. That's not true, actually.

56:38Ben Mandelker: Yeah, just there.

56:38Ronnie Karam: She's like, oh, so he does have heirs, does he? I have two stepchildren, actually. Yeah, so that's not true. Oh, I heard the opposite. Well, see, this is why you shouldn't listen to rumors. I heard you made him adopt your daughter. Oh, my gosh. You are so gauche. Like, I'm an American, okay? Yeah. I'm an American in sweatpants who will probably go get McDonald's french fries after this. And you are so gauche. Like, I can't. I'm embarrassed.

57:06Ben Mandelker: I am mortified. So Amanda is just giving her this face. Like, I mean, it's so amazing. Just this steely-eyed rage face that she's giving. And so then Penthea's like, is that not true, what I heard? Is it not true? Okay, well, at least I said it, everyone. At least I got it out there. Because I got out what I heard. There you go. I'm honest. I heard something and I said it. I reported it. I reported it. Panthea. And Amanda's just like, yeah.

57:37Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Juliet's like, well, we've all heard the stories, but Panthea's only the one who's going to bring it up to make people uncomfortable at a dinner table. There's just no filter with her. So she's like, well, it's good that I said it. Right, guys? And Amanda's like, no, no, no. Look, he was the father figure, of course. But no, that story's not true. We have three children. I have three children. I have two stepchildren and one child. And she's like, oh, so you're still very good friends with them, even though you divorced their father? Really? Really?

58:10Ben Mandelker: And Amanda's like, hmm. Well, yes, I'm very close to the children. It's hard not to when your age gap is only about three months. I mean, it was an amazing birth. So Panthea's like, that's nice. That's really so sweet. Wow. Yeah. And she's like, mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So Amanda's like, if Panthea doesn't know the truth from the untruth because she listens to all the gossip and passes it on, I don't think anyone said anything. I think it's Panthea causing all the trouble getting attention. Gossiping.

58:46Ronnie Karam: It's a bit immature and chavvy, really. She called her a chav. Uh-oh. Yeah. It's not good. It's like a hick, basically.

58:57Ben Mandelker: So Amanda's like, I have a red line when it comes to gossip. It's 100 % a red line. I will not listen to gossip, as I like to call it, careless whispers. Oh, yeah.

59:11Ronnie Karam: She only said she hates gossip because she knows that people gossip about her. I mean, there's no smoke without fire. And Amanda, there's a lot of smoke coming off that one.

59:20Ben Mandelker: I love Panthea raging against fakery. when she comes to this party, and she is like, so, I heard this rumor, and you are so clever, the way you got out with that money, well, I'm so, oh, oh, so these are all rumors, and there's, oh, okay, I'm glad you cleared that up, I'm so glad, now we know the truth, this is wonderful, and then in her confessional, she's like, that bitch, that bitch, she has the money, and where there's smoke, there's fire, and it's all true, so like, who's the fake one now?

59:49Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and so, of course, Panthea now is like, well, it's the Iranian New Year, So bad vibes out the window. It's a new slate. Let bygones be bygones. Let's move forward. It's you, though. You're the asshole.

1:00:02Ben Mandelker: I love when assholes come on TV and forgive themselves. I know. They do that all the time. And in fact, she does it right here again. She goes, now, if I can just take a moment. I was like, another moment? Okay, sure. She's like, firstly, I would like to apologize, Amanda, because you very kindly invited me to your house that you only have because you divorced two times from someone. and force one of them to adopt your child. And I feel like, I don't know, that outpouring at your party, I'm not making excuses and I'm just the realest person that you know. And, you know, I just say it as it is.

1:00:36Ben Mandelker: And out of everybody at this table, the person that to me was more of a friend and, you know, that we shared some beautiful memories together was you, Juliet.

1:00:48Ronnie Karam: It's like, oh, God, I know you're thinking, this crazy girl, she sees me about now, she's like, I had this out. but it was just, I can't stand the fakeness. Do you understand? And I hate the saying, like, let's agree to disagree. I mean, but in this case, we're going to have to agree to disagree. I mean, look at her. She's in a borrowed dress. I mean, God bless her. God bless. So, you know what? We're never going to pretend to be best friends, but let's just enjoy each other's company for what it is and enjoy the moment. And what will it be? What will it be? I'm forgiven. You're welcome. I know.

1:01:18Ben Mandelker: Well, that says that. Shall we move on? I was like, wait, what? You just had the entire burying the hatchet conversation with yourself. Yes.

1:01:28Ronnie Karam: And so Blonde Juliet's like, I'm happy to move on, but I think you need to take responsibility for the way that you came at me. I mean, that episode that we talked about, you'd said it had been resolved. And then, you know why we disagreed. It wasn't about one party being right and one party being wrong. It was about a dentist, a dentist being ripped apart in the public forum. I just can't stand by while dentists are dismembered. She's like, but I've got something to say. I've got something to say. Okay, Mom, I've got something to say. I'm still talking, though. I'm still talking, though. It was a character assassination.

1:02:04Ronnie Karam: And, you know, it was a lot. It was a lot.

1:02:07Ben Mandelker: Wait, I believe the, sorry, Ronnie, the exact quote was, an emotional bamboozle attack.

1:02:14Ben Mandelker: It was an emotional bamboozle attack, just like in Shakespeare.

1:02:19Ronnie Karam: Okay, because I'm not a person that's nice, nice. Okay, but if someone, you know, I'm a person that I'm nice, right? Like, look, everyone here is like, what a nice person. Am I right? But if somebody comes across my family, all me, that's it. I see red. Oh, my God. The dentist filled some cavities in your kid's mouth. So her big argument is she sent her kid to the dentist. The kid went in to get his teeth fixed. He had a chip tooth. He came back without his toothpicks and said, oh, she didn't have the right dye or whatever, plaster. But I did have all these cavities. And then she got pissed and was like, hey, what are you filling all these cavities?

1:02:57Ronnie Karam: I didn't okay you to do cavities. What the hell? So she's accusing the dentist of basically ripping her off. So she goes on social media and lets the dentist have it and calls her a crook or whatever. We don't see the post, but apparently she went on and slandered her all over social media. And Juliette said, that's not cool. This dentist is a nice person. And now she's like, you came for my family with that dentist. It's like, it's so ridiculous.

1:03:25Ben Mandelker: So then, so now, but then what happens is Juliet is like, it was not six years ago, Penthea. She's like, but Penthea's like, I see you read. But it was six years ago. She's like, you riled me up. You stood and you said, darling, sweetie. It was so fake. Riled you up. Like, Juliet walked into the party and said, hello. Hello? And Benthia was like, oh, so we're going to be fake. That's fine. I'm like, she literally just said hello to you.

1:03:52Ronnie Karam: Yeah. She's like, well, you were so warm when you said hi. And she's like, yeah, I was saying hi. It's like, no, the point is, do you want to move on from here or not? It's like, oh, my gosh, six years ago. Or I'm sorry that six years ago I disappointed you as a friend. Or I'm so, so sorry. Right.

1:04:10Ben Mandelker: Amanda now has her knife and she's using it as a mirror as she reapplies like pink lip gloss. And she's like, bored. I'm bored. So then Panthea is like, Juliet, me and you, which it's already she's like, so Juliet, Panthea is pretending like she is a lady of certain distinction. But she's she's here at this restaurant going, me and you are never going to be really good friends. It's like, oh, God. Amanda is just sitting there. Putting plates in her purse. Common her. I know. She's so tacky. She can start singing about the best little pies in whatever. Yeah.

1:04:52Ronnie Karam: Whatever the song is. Let's meet pies in London. I'm like, whatever the town is. And Juliet's like, can I finish? She goes, no, no, because we're in a group. And Nessie's like, I would like to hear what Juliet has to say, guys. Juliet needs the floor. So she's like, you say that I'm fake, that I make up lies. She goes, you do, but go on, go on, go on then. I love when you speak. Go ahead, speak.

1:05:16Ben Mandelker: No more heckling.

1:05:17Ronnie Karam: Exactly, exactly. Liar, fake, liar, fake. Why don't you be faker? Be faker to me.

1:05:23Ben Mandelker: Please, people of my young generation are very stressed. We had to go through the pandemic. That's when we got our schooling. Don't stress us out more. Stop heckling. I love that.

1:05:35Ronnie Karam: No heckling. No heckling. Please. Juliet's like, what do you want from me? Okay, you came into this party, you degrade me, and she's like, but it's not degrading if you're admitting that at your age you borrow clothes. Why can't we just admit that you borrow clothes?

1:05:51Ben Mandelker: Juliet's like, oh my. So is there an issue about borrowing clothes? You can borrow these clothes anytime you want. It's like what Duncan said to Macbeth. Take my armor, please.

1:06:02Ronnie Karam: Well, I've never borrowed clothes in my life. you were literally bragging about stolen plates from the castle two seconds ago. I know. Come on. And Juliet's like, well, maybe you should. You'd have a better wardrobe, by the way. I was like, finally, Juliet. Yes. Thank you. I know.

1:06:19Ben Mandelker: And then Juliet's like, you know, I think that she probably peaked in the 2000s. She's just sticking with it. But like, can we be a bit current? I was like, there we go.

1:06:28Ronnie Karam: Love it. Yes, finally. I love the transition from like being victimized by this person to like fighting fire with fire. And so Panthea's like, oh, you're an actress, Juliet. This is your Oscar stage. Look at Juliet, everyone, in her borrowed costume. She's like, oh, and there you are, character assassinating me again.

1:06:48Ben Mandelker: Well, you bar your Instagram likes. She's like, okay, well, what are you talking about? You're going so low. Panthea, do you realize how low you're going? I came here to try and resolve. How can we resolve? So then they just like they're talking, talking and they're they're going at it. And Juliette's like, what is this vendetta you have against me? OK. And this is like one of these fights where they're going at it, going at it, going at it. And then like all of a sudden it like pivots to like resolution out of nowhere.

1:07:18Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Well, Juliette gets up to do a storm off and everyone's like, oh, God, no, Jesus, you've taken enough of this dinner. You two just sit back down. Please don't walk off, please. Yeah. So she comes back and continues arguing with her standing up. And she goes, okay, then I apologize for letting you down in our friendship, if that's what triggered you. But I'm just struggling. Like, how do I even make this right? And she's like, all right. Well, look, the good bits of you, we've had good bits. Let's just hold our hands, choose the good bits, and try and make this work. Let's hug. We're not going to stay.

1:07:51Ronnie Karam: Okay, it's all good, everybody. We're hugging now.

1:07:54Ben Mandelker: She's like, I hate fake people. So my answer to this is that let's pretend like the bad stuff isn't there and let's only focus on the good stuff because we're going to have a sincere relationship based off of that.

1:08:10Ben Mandelker: It's literally fakery. So then they just kind of like resolve and they go and they hug. And even the waitstaff is like, oh, thank God. They're all like laughing and cheering in the background.

1:08:21Ronnie Karam: so so i mean this is only their second episode and this panthea is really obnoxious as fuck but i mean she's making stuff move along i mean i normally don't like the ones the people on reality shows who are just like oh gotta move the plot forward so i'm gonna start some shit like every other turn but i don't know i i was laughing i was laughing i don't like her but i

1:08:45Ben Mandelker: you know i had no problem with what was happening if that makes sense i was like oh in this feud i'm taking juliette's side side because the panthea is like obviously doing the reality star thing but like you know you need to have these awful you need to have someone awful on the shows to root against so i'm i'm totally fine with it yeah well it'll be interesting to see where this goes

1:09:06Ronnie Karam: everybody thank you so much for being with us we will be back tomorrow with some real housewives of Orange County. Yeah. Bye, everyone.

1:09:15Ben Mandelker: Bye.

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