#3501 RHOC S20E06 Part Two: Ain’t No Buddy Loves Me Better

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1:34Ben Mandelker: Watch What Happens part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show. So let's go to Benny and Mary's. Oh, yes. Here we go. This is what I live for. Heather and her mother, Carol, arrive, and then Shannon joins. And Carol is great because, first of all, Carol is like sharp as a tack I and another thing we didn't talk about Was um She stabbed like what too Little tack stabs Yes She's like oh Heather well thanks for bringing me to yet Another restaurant in this wretched county that doesn't have Perf stools Mother I told you We're still working to catch up They never stop with each other Wow I like stairs You do not like stairs mother why are you pretending you like these stans you hate stans i never said i hate you've always said you hated stans why is my brother such a liar compulsive so carol because shannon comes and carol's like oh you look wonderful you're getting younger you're like benjamin button oh oh uh yeah well i i thank you for that i unfortunately am not allowed to wear buttons on my clothing because they contain heavy metals that could be toxic to my skin sorry i think you misunderstood me i meant benjamin button at the beginning of the movie oh wow that's that's great thank you carol by the way i have that exact outfit i wear it to the pool uh when uh didn't you feel like carol's outfit i was like this is the quintessential older rich woman outfit it's just like it was to me i was like uh black this is westchester with jewels kind of be dueled to something on the shoulder to the collar i mean i do think that shannon has that outfit and they all showed up wearing black it was just such a funny scene to me everything about this scene was gold gold and like i mean carol is she is definitely heather's mother to me i was like oh my god this is where i grew up you know i literally you know they they talk about chappaqua chappaqua was just down the highway from me it was like a few stops down it was where my favorite sushi restaurant was that's where i would go and uh so i see carol and i'm like transported to these these ladies of westchester of my childhood it's just it's just like it's like the ladies of westchester ladies of my synagogue it's all mixed in together she they went to the synagogue that was like there was a synagogue that was there's there's like like two synagogues in town and like I went to one they went to the other one you know so it's just like it's just so I'm just like in the God blade rivals because I went to some I went to some bar bat mitzvahs there but to me it's just like it's it's just so um I I you know it's I it's like how you have these moments of recognition when you see certain people from like your neck of the woods when you grew up it's like this is totally totally what I grew up around and it's so funny to me and so shannon shannon sits down she has that chronic phlegmy cough so she's and you just see carol's face this they let sit at the table hand to her chest like oh and i thought she was going to be mortified by the cough as you know you would be or you know i would be but she's like uh shannon goes oh i wanted to tell you you know my mom she gets these coughing jags too so she has a remedy okay mom go it that was your cue mother mother she's like oh i've got it the remedy is tequila oh well if tequila cured things i'd be a ham but thank you carol the other remedy is a daughter who pays a visit once in a while mother that's not part of the script what can i say i'm a comic genius well um happy gilmore's mother doesn't have a cloth i don't know who that is wasn't that him who played happy gilmore adam sandler wasn't adam sandler oh right mother who go who always wanted to visit his mother elver and quag it's like she would go you know adam sandler so vicky shows up and she's like it's really nice for me to find other people that love puerto vallarta the way i do because carol's house is actually right up the hill and so apparently carol has a house in puerto vallarta up the hill from vicky which does not match with my perception of carol like i do not see carol living in puerto vallarta but apparently she does and apparently vicky visits with her it's a little strange yeah um that is weird that's a that's a weird piece of lore.

6:56It doesn't match. New lore. It just doesn't make any sense. So she's like, yeah, there's been a few times when I was having a lunch and she was there. And I'm like, woohoo, Carol! Hey, Carol, can I ask you a question? Who do I gotta whoop it up to get a woohoo around here? And she would just roll her eyes and call me a Debbie Downer.

7:18Ben Mandelker: We have to escape. So Heather is like, Shannon, I've noticed you're looking more haggard than usual given that you have a baseline of haggardness so i brought you some skin care hold on let me bring up this giant bag that says to bro for some reason here it is my custom bag where is it um let me look is it under the tiffany jewelry the harry winston the take out from nobu i know i have this skin care in here somewhere

7:52hey i've got um i've got a little uh a little vial of something that you need plenty of skin care just go find it any skin care i don't care noxema water just try something here it is i found it try anything try anything

8:16Ben Mandelker: Oh, thank you very much for that. I didn't ask for it. Does this have any electromagnetic radioactivity in it? Because that will not be good for my skin. Oh, by the way, woohoo! I'm done with the process of becoming a Mexican resident. Now I just have to learn Spanish faster. I really want to learn to go into the neighborhoods and say, do you belong here? I'm calling ice. I'll learn it. I'll learn it. It's coming slowly. Vicky, now that you speak Spanish, maybe it will work to give a recommendation to Shannon. How do you say La Roche-Posay in Spanish?

8:56So, Shannon's. Carol, I'm going to need to exchange numbers with you because you seem to have a lot of remedies for things. And Heather goes, oh, my two doctor friends, all with the remedies. girl's like well I was gonna be a doctor once but they said I'm sorry you're too attractive you're gonna make the book you're gonna take a boy's place I don't think so mother no one said

9:22Ben Mandelker: this to you you've never been found attractive well seriously no I was I wasn't a student okay well we'll just let that go okay she just always telling tall tales of being a hot young wannabe doctor. No, it's true. You know, one time Heather got out of the doctor and I picked her up and I took her for ice cream and the man who was scooping it told me single. It's wherever I go. I'm telling you. Believe it or not, it used to be called Ben and Carol's, but I was just too attractive for the ice creams. They brought in Jerry and kicked me out. What can I say?

10:05no one ever told that it seriously seriously it happened i look fabulous listen i had a gorgeous black jacket that was her first chanel pictures that wasn't my first chanel pic i had the jacket

10:17Ben Mandelker: and you got the jacket i had chanel before you had chanel mother no i had chanel before you had chanel i had the chanel you had the chanel wait are you using reverse psychology on me you can't Do that to me, mother. I'm the Chanel influencer around here. Cut to Gina in her house. That's Dr. Mother to you. Cut to Gina telling her mom, Mom, I had the Tupperware before you had the Tupperware. Cut to Gina going, I had the channel first. No, I had the channel first. No, I had the channel first. Put it back on entertainment tonight. It's like a rabbit ears TV.

11:03Ben Mandelker: I love this Guess what With my mom I was the first one to buy flip flops from the drugstore Now I was the first one to buy the flip flops from the drugstore, Gina We both shoplifted the flip flops from the drugstore Okay So Heather's like My mother is never wrong I don't even know why I bother wasting the breath I should just smile No, not. This has been my whole life. You know what? Heather, she was such a good little girl. She always came home with a list of names of new friends. She wouldn't actually have the friends. She just had the name of the friends. It was so adorable. It was so sweet.

11:45And let me tell you, none of the other girls reciprocated. Heather was never on anyone's list growing up.

11:53Ben Mandelker: That's hot. What age was this? Well, let's see. Heather, how old are you now? whatever age Heather was, subtract two years. That's how old she was. Well, it was in fourth grade, and I went to pick her up at this girl's house. Oh, they took a walk. A walk. You don't take a walk in Chippecroa. Chippecroa, sorry. You're on a main road, and there they are coming down singing. I said, she's never going there again. Never going again after that um main road my daughter my daughter walking on 133 no thank you like you like me flexing my knowledge of the local roads in chappaqua um is it really dangerous it's just i mean it's as the the speed limit's probably 45.

12:44it's not like it sounds like nothing bad happens in chappaqua on the you know what i mean it's i I just don't feel like I've ever, I don't think I've ever heard anybody being like, whoa, those wrote in Chappaqua.

12:57Ben Mandelker: You know, you know, what's based in Chappaqua other than the Clintons is Reader's Digest used to be headquartered there until I think, I don't know what's going on with Reader's Digest. You know, you just made so many people think of just being on the pot and taking a poop because that's where the Reader's Digest is. That's the first thing I think is my grandpa with the stack of Reader's Digest on his toilet. And by the way, two concepts that you wouldn't... Story of the matter. Literature. Well, it all came from Chappaqua. Two concepts that you're not really going to get in Orange County, reading and digesting.

13:33So Carol is like, I'm never letting her have friends in Chappaqua. So...

13:50All right, let's go to Vegas flight. The Vegas flight. Okay. So Tamara and Heather arriving to the airport and Emily comes. Now Emily has her knee wrapped. And Tamara's like, oh my God, how's your butt off an e-bike, you fucking idiot? She's like, well, there was an e-bike there. I have a fucking Luke. insistent on driving at first i fell off the email it's all luke's fault i could have died

14:17Ben Mandelker: yeah now i'm just here i'm gonna have to spend this whole time in vegas just limping around limping curtain

14:30i actually made up that line she never said anything about limping i just was like i don't know when i'll have a chance you're just gonna get it in there we still got two thirds of this show ago like what if we were better be now or something there better be a presence i better

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17:24Ben Mandelker: um carmella meanwhile um is decided to take a page out of kyle's book kyle richards and she's she's got a fear of flying everyone and she goes when i started working for playboy i just remember having like panic attacks the whole five hours from cleveland to lax and uh i think that it's like leaving home and leaving my comfort zone and i'm very ocd and i don't like leave my kids or my dogs or home like it's always afraid of something that's going to happen it's hard like you know i honestly i don't need to hear the history of why you're afraid of like you could just be afraid of flying and i understand the rest like afraid of flying is not some crazy thing i just read a story last night about how ryan air uh just settled with something or it came to the end of an investigation because a bird went into one of its engines and like a part of the engine broke off and crashed through a window and a passenger got halfway sucked out the window and he had to be pulled back in so i'm like you don't have to explain why you're afraid of flying you You don't have to tell me why, because it stems from OCD and you might miss your dog.

18:23Ben Mandelker: You're just a... Yeah, it's a somewhat reasonable fear. It's like, you know what I'm afraid of? Someone coming in and murdering me. Yeah, that's like... I think it might be my OCD. Yeah. You know what I'm really afraid of? Being burned alive. Well, that's reasonable. It's because I was in the Playboy Mansion when I was very young, and I had to go there from a flight from the Midwest, and I had OCD. and I really need to be. It's like, okay, we get it. You need a housewives thing, so you're going to be afraid of flights. But when she says, yeah, I can't be away from my children, didn't you get a whole place away from your children during the week?

19:01Or did your children live in the place with her? No, the kids go to school in the other place. Anyway, which is fine. I don't, well, they do sometimes.

19:12Ben Mandelker: Who needs school when you've got people offering to buy you shit in the Walgreens? That was the plot line. She's like, yeah, this guy was going to buy me the lipstick on the Walgreens.

19:22Ben Mandelker: So, um, they arrive, they land, and then there's like a showgirl, like a classic showgirl, that's like, welcome! Hey, I'm Bree from Girls' Night Out Getaways, or as we call it, G-N-O-G. G-N-O-G! So, we're gonna have a great time, we're going to turn to you guys all on the Vegas show, girls, get on the bus! So, So Jen is like, I'm sorry, I had to put the mic down. This is like a handheld mic, you know, in the hotel. And so I have to hold it and I had to, you know, groom. So I had to put the mic down. Sorry about that. But yeah, the showgirl welcomes them. They're going to take a showgirl class.

20:01They're super excited. And Jen's like, oh my God, after the wine party, we need to have some fun. Who doesn't want to be a lead showgirl when in Vegas?

20:14Ben Mandelker: so tamra's like i'm not expecting to be a head showgirl at 58 years old i may be the hottest this bunch but i'm not gonna be a showgirl bitch vicky is like i don't even know how we're gonna do this like like i like i'm not doing a high kick with one like i'll probably find it over so now they go to shots now let me see lots of vegas and they arrive at the showgirl boot camp experience and um we meet stacy i love stacy you know she's been there for like 40 years she's like Let me show you how I do it Daisy was my favorite Yeah, she was like, hey everybody, welcome to showgirls class Here's what you do It takes a certain kind of grace To be a showgirl I know I've been doing this I started at the Sands Casino What is the Sands Casino?

20:59Ben Mandelker: It's dust That's what they should call it, because they tore it down Anyway, three, two, one, places

21:08Are they in the class yet? Oh, yeah, they are. So Shannon's like, what is this? What if I fall? And they get their makeup done. And Emily's like, Jen, if Brian said let's go to the little chapel and get married, would you say yes? She's like, no, I need my kids there. I need my kids there. Who's going to drive through the front window of the chapel and crash it everywhere? If not for Grayson, who's going to start the wedding chapel on fire? I need my kids.

21:40Ben Mandelker: and carmela's like i just don't think you should get married right now you should just like pause because i think it's like a lot of pressure it's like yeah it's like it's the feeling for my kids like i want them to know that we're home yeah it's like maybe just like a conversation like ryan are together and we love each other and this is a safe stable why are you you guys are getting put into like crazy showgirl makeup why are you having this conversation right now why are like you've got like feathers coming out of their head and like yeah i really don't think you should elope at the little chapel.

22:10Ben Mandelker: No, the McBees did that last week. You don't need to do it this week. It's fine. Yeah, we don't need it. We do not need it. But also her saying like, oh, I just want to get married for my kids. You just had your kid on camera crying his eyes out because you were divorced from the dad in the first place and he can't adjust to the divorce. And now you're like, I have to do this for my kids. I need to get married. I'm 10. Listen, listen to the damn kids. So Carmela's like, My anxiety comes from wanting to give my kid safety and stability because of what I haven't had in the past. It's very touching.

22:44So then, meanwhile, they're still getting feathers put on and glitter everywhere. And Stacey's like, all right, I want to introduce you to Peter. He's the costumer. And it's like Lisa Kudrow's gay from The Comeback, R.I.P. The guy who was following her around. Like, you're great, honey. Everything you do is perfect.

23:06Ben Mandelker: this guy peter he's been through it all too he's like okay we're gonna pin you we're gonna nip you and we're gonna tuck you and make you look like a million dollars trust me babe when i was 27 years old i did this shit on broadway jerome robbins broadway specifically i was there now i'm here so get in nip tuck suck yes nip tuck suck we like that so not the suck that's an extra that's extra this is vegas all right so they are see them putting on their g-strings and stuff and heather's like oh i don't know about a g-string okay and you know it's like is there like a full brief option is there an i feel bad option so they uh they're they're like they spend a long time getting in the costume vicky is really annoyed about her knee she just wants her knee to be better and then um Gina and Emily have this moment, and Gina's like, Obviously, at dinner, it was like a little tense between you and I.

24:08Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I had to tell you to stay out of it because you were so aggressive. I didn't like that, and I want to talk to you about that. But even more important, I went to lunch with Heather the other day, and we're rooming together, and she's like, Well, was there an option that we were? Like, what do you mean? Yeah, Heather brought up that it bothers her that we roomed together. I love that. She's like, there's a real big beef between the two of us right now, and we're not on the same page and we need to be on the same page but more importantly look what heather did isn't she the worst yeah it's her she's like i'm gonna pretend like i have a beef with emily but i'm just gonna do a regular old scene of trying to trigger emily into going to fight somebody you know it's like oh here's the next person we're gonna fight she's jealous so then um we see the flashback of heather you know saying well whenever it comes up that you and Emily share a room.

24:58A lot of the girls, including myself, get triggered. We're very triggered. You guys, you know, you guys get to talk ad nauseum. What about the rest of us? Who am I supposed to talk to besides Reba McIntyre, besides Blair from Facts of Life? I mean, someone here. Who does Heather have at the end of the day?

25:20Ben Mandelker: I mean, what am I supposed to do? Call Christy McNichol in the middle of the night, wake her up from her sleep outside the convention, the house, the convention hall, trying to get into the sign autographs for the people. No, I'm not going to do that. I mean, what she's really saying. Well, it's just Heather trying to control things. She doesn't want us together because she doesn't know what we're saying and she doesn't have control. She wants to listen to every little thing we say. No, I think Heather might be saying, you and Gina are constantly teaming up against people, and it's not really fair.

25:57We all go to dinner, and we're fine, and then you two go off together, and then you decide who you're going to be mad at, and then someone is yelled at the next night at dinner, and it's usually me. So could we stop this and just break them up for a minute?

26:09Ben Mandelker: Yes, exactly. That's 100%. I mean, she literally says, you guys get to talk ad nauseum. I mean, there it is so and now they're like well she just wants to control things she wants to control and gina's like i just think heather's always in an endless pursuit to find a buddy and you like trying to break up our friendship at our room it like makes me like not want to be a buddy i just feel like also like gina is acting like almost empathetic to heather like heather just wants a buddy but i also feel like every time heather becomes friends with someone gina is the first one to be like why you like why are you doing that like i don't trust your friend like i feel like she's always undermining those friendships now i wish i had some hard evidence on that i mean i wish there was something where i could point to i mean there was the time where where heather did try to dress up gina as her own little doll her own little my buddy and i was like wait a second or even gina was like i don't want to be like this but um i feel like don't be empathetic to heather's desire to find a friend and then also undermine her i know it's a flimsy argument she's saying she's empathetic but at the same time she's trying to get emily to go yell at heather so yeah that's really for now now they are coming out in costume and they're in their headdresses and it's like it's funny and then shannon is like eating some reese's she's like well, isn't it funny that I bitch about how fat I am and then I eat a Reese's.

27:37Ben Mandelker: I know. I know. Oh, God. So then they dance. Vicky's putting her headdress on going, I wonder what's going on at Cotto Richards today. I just can't stop thinking about work. I'm a work show girl, and I'm proud of it. You know what? Get a job. Get a job. They all line up. Stacey shows them some moves. They all sort of do a thing. Their arms are out. They walk forward. They walk back where they do a little thing that's it's like a fun little little bit that goes on way too long and um and then afterwards vicky's like oh losing my balance difficult can i stand on heels and vicky's like i dare anybody especially emily to call me a debbie downer right now she just won't stop with the debbie downer i know stop please i beg you and then emily's like see This is what I want.

28:33Ben Mandelker: I want that Victoria. She's iconic. So now they go to Caesar's palace and you know, it's killing Heather to be like adjacent to the Nobu tower, but not actually be in it. And, um, the guy's like, welcome to Caesar's palace. We've got sky villas in the Octavius tower. And oh my God. Wow. The sky villas are like so beautiful. There's like a part of me that feels like, is this the way the Dubros live? And Heather's like, I mean, not really. I mean, this is basically like flying. premium plus. Okay? Show me Delta One.

29:09Now they're discussing rooms and of course Emily says that she and Gina are going to room together and we see a flashback to Tamara being like, what's the rooming situation? And Heather's saying, I told Gina that she and Emily can't stay together. So now we're going to have a fight because Emily and Gina want to stay in the same room. and now heather's gonna be upset about it so tamra tells him you guys you're in trouble for room together i don't know if you should be together because the president likes it and emily goes if someone thinks it's a problem then it's a their problem

29:43Ben Mandelker: oh it's a show problem if this is the best you can do so tamra um tamra's got um she's looking around she's like oh look at this this is nice we got a dining room table for kids and don't eat bitch and then um tamra offers she suggests that they give carmella the suite because she's new to the group and vicky's like but what about us like where are we sleeping i'm not gonna sleep on the street you're gonna make me sleep outside on the street i won't do that i won't do that and tamra's like yeah there's like two big bitches over there bitch

30:16so vicky's like uh you know what she's tamra's up to something you want me to be bunsey once with carmella then why don't you be bunsey once with carmella you do it first Maybe then I'll do it You know, like maybe if I see someone being friends with a slut Then I'll be friends with a slut But not until then

30:35Ben Mandelker: How, I mean, if Carmela just bought insurance from Vicky She'd love her to death It's like, okay, well, okay If I don't sit down soon, I'm going to decapitate my leg So then we go into Gina and Emily's room And now they're going to have a heart-to-heart heart So Gina's like, what's going on with Heather? Yeah, we've been rooming together since I met you what is she doing trying to break us up oh god yeah she drives a wedge she drives a wedge well you can't even drive a wedge they're covered in blue cheese no a wedge it's a saying listen emily i'm telling you when i went to lunch with heather she was like you were soft on emily and i don't like that you guys are like i thought you should be mean and emily she's really coming for you emily like oh you know i don't like when heather has an issue with me but then she makes persuasive arguments to other people.

31:26That's literally what you just did with this Carmella thing. When you had a problem with the purse, then you called Heather about having a problem with the purse. Then you made Gina have a problem with the purse. And then you told on Gina for having a problem with the purse.

31:39Ben Mandelker: Yeah, exactly. So Gina's like, you know what? I do regret getting in. I do regret getting into it at dinner. I do like. What? I'm sorry to laugh. I was just thinking, this life, it's so funny what we sit here and do. And then she got mad at Heather. And then the other thing. And then they were mad about the purse. And I get myself so upset. I'm like, who are you and what are you doing?

32:08Ben Mandelker: So then now they start talking about themselves, like their relationship. She's like, you know, I'm like, sorry, I feel bad. Like, you know, because you're like a strong personality. I'm like, I feel bad about like, you know, dinner and everything. and like sometimes like you know when you're defending yourself you're like very aggressive and i like i don't know why you went and told carmella about the bag thing why is that a problem i didn't know that was a secret you're gonna tell me that that's like confidential emily you were being a shitty friend and we all see it it's all on camera you can try to spin it however you want but we have us so and also when either of them confronts each other they both use the same wording like you were aggressive and now scenes later jean is like you were aggressive oh and then when you went to walk a bunch of about me when all i was doing was be curious and being curious about a gift yeah you were not just curious about the you two are so full of it i can't so they keep talking themselves into rosencrantz and guildenstein guildenstein whatever yeah right yeah so um basically they agree to disagree because this isn't a real fight anyway i don't know why we're getting worked up about it it's stupid so they're back together and now their anger is turned at heather yeah i think by the way this was totally a fight to be like look we don't always have each other's backs guys um so now we go speaking of heather we go to jen and heather and shannon and they're they're in this suite and shannon's like do you hear that noise do you hear that noise jen listen carefully buddy jen listen do you hear it hover by the wall it's in the walls.

33:43Ben Mandelker: I swear to God. Look at... Okay, do we have any Christmas lights? Okay, I swear we hang some Christmas lights. The elevator's going to talk to us. Look at it, Jed. Look, it's electromagnetic goes from the other side. I think that the girl from Strangers Things is stuck in the wall. No one's seen her for a long time. I know this may sound far-fetched, but I think there's a portal to another dimension. It has doors. They open up, but you go in, and then it swallows you up, and you go to a different place. Shannon, that's just an elevator. Oh, I didn't realize. This is the box. You go into the box.

34:20There's buttons. What button do you push? I don't know what button to push. It's straight down. It's the elevator, Shannon. It's still the elevator. The girl from Epoenema is playing. I don't even know what to do with it.

34:34Ben Mandelker: It's numbers. Just a cascade of numbers. But then strangely, there's one number that's just an L. L's not a number unless it's Roman numerals. What sort of sick game is this? There's nothing wrong with this room. I mean, what is wrong with this room is that Heather got a better room, in Shanna's opinion, and now Shanna's upset that she doesn't have the best room. Which is true, because Shanna's like, I'm not a room hound, but I have a high EMS. I used to have high EMS at my house, and I just need to sleep somewhere else. I cannot sleep around high EMS. I can't do it. And then we see a flashback to her and her first season walking to her house and a guy testing for electromagnetic frequencies with a little thing.

35:17And he's like, well, here's one, Shannon. It's right on the bed. Oh, well, of course, it's on my side of the bed. I told you. I told you I'm not crazy.

35:28Ben Mandelker: Heather, do you want to move your room? Yeah. Can you move yourself into Jen's room, please? And Heather's like, I'm already unpacked. Absolutely not. No way. This is when Heather, Heather, you know, she tries to be like, I'm a cool girl. I'm a joiner. I love showgirl stuff. I've got champagne. But the real Heather's like, absolutely not. If there are electromagnetic frequencies, they won't hurt you because your brain's already rotted. Good night.

35:59Oh, well, everyone's getting pissed at me. This is bullshit. This is bullshit. Some people have real, real allergies to electromagnetic frequencies. If this is an ableist, I will not take this.

36:11Ben Mandelker: I never fight for the room, but I didn't get involved in the choice. And Heather just, she just goes into the room and goes, Oh, oh, are you staying here? And she goes, Well, I just took off my shoes and Jen should have the primary. And it's just like, why am I not involved in the choice? Why do they stick me next to the portal to another dimension that's giving me electromagnetic poisoning? I don't know if anyone's checked my Instagram not to get political, but I am pro-choice. And everybody knows that. What I mean is I should have a choice in my room. And that's the period. I just don't understand this.

36:42They're all so used to Shannon being an asshole. Heather just goes, keep your room. Boom.

36:51Ben Mandelker: Does anyone have a purse stool for Shannon's brain that's been turned into mush by the elevator? Just put it right there on a jar and we can all look at it. I'm trying not to let it ruin my trip, but then I was unpacking. My back room's up to the elevator. And every time the elevator goes, I mean, that is pure electromagnetic radiation. And then it just comes to the room. And it's just silent. It's like, no, electromagnetic radiation. Meanwhile, you're in the, you're like in a casino surrounded by slot machines and smoke and booze. There's like literally nothing but toxins down there. But how about the elevator?

37:37Ben Mandelker: That's the real problem here. The whole city is built on lights. The all you see are lights everywhere. The walls are light. everything is air conditioned to the nth degree it's just all electromagnetic frequencies girl so tamer's like yeah i wouldn't be shocked if the noises were in her head since christmas and her teeth have to be saying something so shannon's like what uh everyone i just want everyone to come to my room please listen please i i'm not crazy there's a little girl coming out of the tv in fact i i don't like her she's she's being drawn to the she's being drawn to the electromagnetic box of to hell so please everyone please you have to save me i also you know what's hilarious is what shannon's basically saying is guys this room is so close to an elevator it will literally poison us to death so i would like someone else to die and i will take your room thank you so you guys take it Here's my pitch to you.

38:40Ben Mandelker: Why don't you get poisoned by the electromagnetic frequencies and I'll take your room and make sure you're remembered. It just matters for me because I am allergic to electromagnetic frequencies. Oh, geez. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

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40:37So now they leave and Emily shows off that she's got the Dior bag that Carmela gave her. And now they go to a restaurant called Carmela. It's like Carmela, but with an A. We've been here before.

40:53Ben Mandelker: This is where the next-gen New York cast went just last night on Bravo, because this is where Charlie got a reservation, and everyone was impressed that Charlie did something proactive for once, and a lady opened a door. They went through the back. It was amazing. Now Shannon's fine with going to a restaurant that you have to walk through a refrigerator to get to. This is all very picky, what you're going to be afraid of. Well, Dr. Moon says that some electromagnetic frequency is better than others, and the ones that give you a worse room in Vegas are the most toxic of all, unfortunately. So now they order drinks, and Emily is like, Oh my God, it's the Bellagio.

41:37That's where I got married. And Vicki goes, Oh my God, you did? How did you know he was the one? She's like, I still don't.

41:47Ben Mandelker: Which is funny because they played that in the trailer. Like, oh no, Emily's having a crisis in her marriage. I don't know if he's the right one. But in reality, she's like, I don't know if he is. Anyway, pass the margaritas. So they do a cheers. And Carmela's like, guys, I don't want to offend anybody by injecting insulin at the table. But let me, you know, it just started with anxiety and OCD. The first time I got on a plane to go to the Playboy Mound, I was really rather just shoot yourself up. Shut up. Jesus. Gina does have a fair point. All these women are like injecting themselves with so much shit that I don't think you're going to offend anyone.

42:28Ben Mandelker: I think that's fair. That's going to be on the appetizer menu soon at restaurants where you just go and you're like, oh my God, I forgot my GLB one today. They're like, here you go. And I'll be the first person ordering it. So Tamara's like, Camilla, what are you whispering about? It's something. Because like, are you talking about vibrators again? Slut. Slut. Did you bring those slutty things? And Jen's like, I want my own room if you brought me a dildo. So Carmilla's like, yeah, I threw them all in the garbage. And Vicky's like, what? All the vibrators in the garbage? Like you didn't share them with the girls?

43:05Ben Mandelker: I told you she's not a developer. She's a flipper. She takes vibrators. She throws them out. She's a flipper.

43:13And Shannon tells a story that the cleaning woman came up to her and said, we have a problem. And then she walked into her bathroom and all the vibrators were outside.

43:22Ben Mandelker: Isn't that funny? Oh, sorry. It's just a story that she tells us. It's a little, you know, when you're both from Rancho Santa Rancho, you share things with each other. Sorry, I guess I just have a buddy, Heather. So, well, look, you're talking for Carmela again. And there's a big shocker. That's what Emily, I mean, that's what Gina was thinking. Oh, you know what? Okay, you know what? Gina, I wasn't going to bring this up right now because I'm afraid I have some brain fog due to the elevator poisoning. But I will now. The other night when we were having dinner, I did start speaking for Carmela because I felt badly for her.

43:57Ben Mandelker: Look who's rubbing off on me now. And I did start speaking for Carmela. And I saw how upset she was because she didn't even participate. So that explains my reactions, okay? Well, I understand all this from your perspective, but from my perspective, Carmella, I could have used the opportunity, and as a woman, I love giving women opportunities to stand up for themselves against other women who are attacking them for no reason. So I stand for women. But, like, she did communicate. Well, it was like you were trying to communicate them for her, and, like, I hadn't even heard what you said. I'm sorry.

44:36I'm sorry. I misunderstood what you were saying. And then so I jumped in. But like, it's useless enough that we both say it.

44:44Ben Mandelker: Oh, look, there's the electromagnetic radiation happening right now in your brain, Gina. I can hear you having conversation with yourself. You're losing it. Be careful. And you got so angry, and then you shut me up. And I have every right to speak as much as I do. I felt like a person on a no H8 campaign with tea put over their face. like like they're prisoners that's actually no hate campaign that's just the gay people oh well i guess i misread that one yay gays it hurt my feelings gina well last time i checked uh the the the the the people who were making sure we couldn't speak out about issues whereas the elevator lobby anyway you you got so angry and you shut me up and i have every right to speak as much as you do.

45:34Ben Mandelker: And she was like, I never doubted that. I was just like trying to have a conversation with Carmela. And by having a conversation, I mean, screaming at her baseless allegations and claims that were deeply rooted in my own paranoia. And then when she tried to say some things, I just doubled down. But you were aggressive. You were aggressive. That's the 90th time someone has said that word today on this show. So Heather's like, well, Carmela's at the end of the table. And she kept turning to me and saying, oh my God. And I said, I know. it's the Chanel jacket I bought before my mother's. Am I right?

46:05And then she said, what is going on? And I said, oh, say it out loud then. But she felt like she couldn't talk.

46:13Ben Mandelker: Well, every time I tried to say something, it was like, I'm fighting against you because I'm not going to scream to get my point. I think everyone knows after 12 years on Bravo, that it's well documented that I do not scream to get my point. Thank you very much. well Shannon I'm sorry for that I'm sorry and I would just like to leave you with this ding oh god what's that an elevator just fucking with you Shannon just fucking with you um I just want to say I definitely appreciate the support to step in the line of fire when it's like uncomfortable so thank you Shannon and thank you Gina and like I think they actually are both right here I understand Gina's perspective and I need to be able to advocate for myself but I really do have mad respect for Janet.

46:58Ben Mandelker: Why do I call her Janet? Who the fuck is Janet? I mean, Shannon. Have you been sleeping near the elevator bank? I think we really need to take her check, get her to the hospital, get her checked out. I can't even move. My Botox is so tight. It's ridiculous. Thank you, Shannon, not Janet, for sticking up for me. That is hilarious. I hope you frig yourself later with a little gift I left under your pillow. Hey, Betch, Jeter, what's wrong? You look like you glitched. What's going on? I feel like you have another fight, and you? Do you have another fight? Fight, fight, fight. She's like, oh my god.

47:31Ben Mandelker: Okay, I need to clear the air on this one. Heather, first of all, you have shrimp cocktail in your hair. I feel bad. Get out of your hair. It was really bothering me. Okay, it wasn't shrimp cocktail. It was the blood of Alfredo, but that's fine. Go on.

47:49When we went to lunch with Carmella, by the way, everybody, welcome to a Gina fight episode. This is how it's done. All the people saying I don't do anything on this show. This is like multiple fights I'm having at a dinner table. Okay. Now, look, like, I have a problem with that. Like, when we went to lunch with Carmella, you were like, I don't like that you share a room with Emily. I am a real problem with that.

48:12Ben Mandelker: I was being honest about it. just how I'm honest about how terrible this restaurant is because I'm having to hold my purse in my lap. Where is the stool? Um, you have a calamari in your hair. First of all, get the calamari out of your hair. That's Alfredo's wedding ring. It's really, really difficult to talk to. What was that? That's Alfredo's wedding ring. I took it from him as down payment. Until he builds me a purse stool, I will hold it in my hair. But I feel like when we all go somewhere, there's like a buddy system. You know, there's a debrief of the night and there's a debrief of what's going on yeah you guys think that but all we do is eat gummy bears that's not true but also you're allowed to like be with your friend this whole fight is stupid you're allowed to go be with your friend and talk about other people i hate standing up for gina and emily but no you're allowed this is they heather as much as we understand why heather is frustrated because there is they do i think sit together and talk about what they're going to do on the show.

49:12But ultimately, you know, they are also

49:16Ben Mandelker: friends like you let them live, let's let them share their room together. Keep the stupidity contained to one room, please. So Emily is like, she's like, well, this is what doesn't make sense to me. It's been eight years that Gina and I have been sharing a room. And then all of a sudden, eight years later, and Jenna's like, Maybe it's the buddy thing. Is that the thing? Is it the buddy thing, Heather? You know, the little doll that ran away from you and like ripped itself out of a bottle. Your mother was mentioning something about ran away down a Chappaqua freeway or something to get away from you.

49:50I don't know. I'm just taking steps in the dark. Please do not mention Chappaqua.

49:58Ben Mandelker: So Emily is like, that town is too waspy for you, Jen, and it should not be in your mouth. So Emily is like, she's like, the bunny thing is not my problem. But you don't ever pick her to stay with. Well, she wouldn't want me to stay with her. Heather, Heather, Heather, stop everybody. Heather, do you want to be invited just to stay the night for one night with them? Do you want to, Heather? Let's do that for Heather, everybody. Thank you so much. Can someone just invite Heather to stay in a room? That would be great. This is still mortifying for Heather. Yeah, sure. that's like inviting the the weird kid over to be on the sleepover um so gina's like you're always invited everybody's invited just like bothers me because like it feels like you're like trying to control everything heather and like i don't want to feel micromanaged in my own things and i don't want my trips or my relationships and he goes done done like when he mounts career done done Yeah, that's a boundary.

50:58And as someone in real estate, I really understand boundaries now. So like put a little flag in it.

51:03Ben Mandelker: As someone who has a lot of acreage between each boundary on their estate, the boundary is set. This is what's great. We're friends. We should be able to have these conversations together, which we just did, which I loved. And next time you come by my house with an iron mug asking for change and you bang it against my front gate, I'll just say, that is my boundary. No solicitations, please. Well, you talk about how you don't have a buddy and you said Gina and I are paired up and Tamra and Vicky are paired up and Shannon and Janet paired up. Shannon's like, well, I'm paired up with Heather. Oh, geez, thanks.

51:48That's great.

51:51Ben Mandelker: Yes, I am paired up with her, which is why it's so kind of her that my buddy will give me her room and then she will sit next to the elevator of death. Right, buddy? Right, buddy? Yeah, what are you talking about, Shannon? You're mad because she didn't even let you have the room you wanted. Oh, oh, God, no, Heather, Heather, no, no. Well, okay, well, Heather, I will be honest with you. As your buddy, what bothered me, Heather, there wasn't even a discussion. You were just telling me, oh, please, I swear to you, if you had said from the beginning, let's flip a coin, let's rock, paper, scissors, there are certain ways to do things, and you have to do them at the beginning before I've unpacked.

52:31Ben Mandelker: By the way, I'm sorry, Gina, for outing everything that's in your kitchen pantry. Rock, paper, scissors. Anyway.

52:44How else am I supposed to roll down?

52:49Ben Mandelker: Well, to me, it's like, you know, because, you know, by you not including me in the discussion of the rooms, to me, that is me demanding a nice room. But it's like, I'm just saying, I just wish we could have had a talk, buddy to buddy, because that's what we are. Shannon and Heather, famously two of the best buddies on Bravo, iconically so. We'll always be for some buddies if you ever, for me or my family, ever again. And Joan's like, oh my God, I'm just so over this. You know what? I don't want to listen to it anymore. I want this time with my girlfriend. So if that means I've got to go to my room and pack up all my stuff, I'm going to do it.

53:31Shannon, just take my room. Just take my room. Gosh. Oh, thank you so much. Wow.

53:38Ben Mandelker: You know what, Jen? You're my new buddy. Heather, enjoy being out in the cold, bitch. So Tamara's like, yeah, we should go to strip club tonight since, yeah, I'm still here. This is weird. We're having a group dinner. I haven't even said anything. And Carmela's like, oh my God, I haven't been to a strip club in like 20 years. Oh my God. Maybe they have amateur night Maybe we can showcase our moves It'll be hilarious So they're gonna go into the strip club And Vicky's not Because you know Vicky is the biggest sex shamer On Bravo And she's like I'm going to the bathtub tonight I'm gonna love it I'm gonna love it I'm going to the bathtub Not a strip club And Emily goes Don't be a funny duddy Oh my god Looks like we have another nickname

54:31And that brings us to the end of Real Housewives of Orange County.

54:35Ben Mandelker: There it is. Thanks, everyone, for being here. Ronnie, have a great time in Orange County. And we're going to talk to every single one of you on Monday for more Atlanta reunion and more ultimate girls trip. Well, I don't know which one's going to be on. Maybe both will be. and of course, Amazon. They're both on. Live. What? Yeah. They're both on. I just watched a girls trip screener and it was hilarious. Great. It was really, really good. So I'm excited to recap that on Monday and we'll talk to you guys later. Have a great weekend. Bye-bye. Bye. Watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors.

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