#3508 Next Gen NYC S2E09: Turkey and Snogs-age

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2:07Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hello, Ben. Hi. How's it going? Oh, good. Welcome to the show, everybody. It's next gen NYC day. If you want this on video, you get that at Patreon with all of our videos. It's also where you get bonus episodes and ad-free listening. So go over there for that. Thanks to everybody who's a Patreon member. Also, we're going out of town this weekend. Well, we're doing gigs this weekend, both of us, separate things. I'm going to be interviewing Hannah and Daisy from Below Deck in San Francisco on a dinner cruise for City Cruises.

2:49is. You can find links to that on either one of their Instagram links in bio. It's going to be Sunday night. It'll be a good time. And Ben is going to be interviewing an excellent cookbook author who's written a cookbook.

3:04Ben Mandelker: Ben, tell them about it. Yes, I'm going to be in conversation with Martin Sorgi based off of his new cookbook, Great Bakes. And that's going to be at Friends and family, which is in East Hollywood. And those tickets you can get by going to the website or the Instagram of Now Serving, Now Serving LA Cookbook Shop. So go check that out. Come join five o 'clock on Sunday. And there, I have been told, well, actually I've not been told. It just says on the description that there will be pastries. So let me bribe you with some carbs. Yeah, should be a fun time. I'm excited for it. it's gonna be some great time so i was drinking water thought you were gonna talk longer um everybody welcome to next gen nyc season two episode nine no f's giving i don't give a f um it's a friendsgiving episode yes jen yeah so we see um it's like the day before friends giving and george is just like in a car riding through the city and she's like yeah i feel like there's been like no stopping like i got back from vegas landed and then it's been like go go go ever since like i chatted with brooks a little bit like oh and rowan a little bit because i saw her mom at a charity event i was at the other day it's been like non-stop what is what what does Georgia do for work these days?

4:32Ben Mandelker: Again, event planner, event thrower, like why has her life been nonstop? We haven't seen her do anything. I was wondering that too. Yeah, I was like - Anything with business. This is - What are you doing? I mean, yeah, she does party planning, but I don't know, we haven't heard of any specific ones. Yeah, I kind of wondered too. I was like, what is a day in the life of Georgia like? And she drives in the city, that's pretty rare. Well, I don't think she drives. I think she was just in the backseat of a car. oh i thought she was driving no no no i think she was riding in this in a car oh uh never mind that question's gone it's like oh look at that so grocery store uh gia and ava are shopping and ariana comes and um ava is wearing like a fur coat and a crop top they're like oh my god where you going fashion week stunning yeah carrie bradshaw is my inspiration i signed my lease today moving in on monday and like oh my god so happy for you blah blah blah and we go back to the car uh where george is still sort of like giving her thoughts on anything and she goes i'm going to make an adult mac and cheese i'm like pretty good at boiling water i taught charlie actually how to boil water true story i swear i swear past his 30th birthday He like didn't know how to boil water.

5:56Yeah. Just put a camera on Georgia and just let her go. That's what she does. Please. I don't know what she's talking about. She goes from like, yeah, it's been like, go, go, go. It's like so rough. I've just like not stopped. So I'm going to make an adult mac and cheese. Like Charlie doesn't even know how to boil water. Like I do. Like for real, for serious. It's true. It's ridiculous, I know. We're going to keep her how much footage that is. It's probably just like an hour and a half of Georgia going from one location

6:30Ben Mandelker: to another and just not shutting up. Oh my God. It's just, and all of it's just got to be hilarious. Just her commenting on things and her hot takes on stuff. I mean, she really is. She's amazing. So back at the store, Gia is checking what everybody's bringing. So she's sending them messages and stuff. And then we go over the fact that Ariana is bringing vegetables with Liam. It's huge. It's a huge deal. And we find out that Hudson has been removed from the group chat. Because he got all pissed off when he found out that the group vegetable thing was happening. Or the couple's vegetable thing was happening.

7:13And so Ariana made Riley do it. She's like, I don't want to look like the asshole for doing it.

7:18Ben Mandelker: you do it Riley yeah um so Riley is like she said that she got a text from Hudson being like wow really but she's like I didn't respond so now back to the store and Ava um is asking Ariana if she's actually dating Liam and she's like oh we're not dating no I mean like we're going on dates and like we're just like figuring it out but like that's it and so then we see a flashback of them on a date the night before and Liam is like, I don't know what's going on. And she's like, I don't know what's going on either. Even though you make me nervous. It's a good nervous. It's a good nervous. Yeah. Butterflies are good.

7:57Yeah. But they don't really have a lot of anything. They show them on the date and it's like, just kind of staring around. Should we talk about something? I don't know. So it doesn't seem like much is going to happen there and but they do have a date tonight and she tells them that they've made out and he invited her for thanksgiving and they're like oh my god that's a little fast ava says these men these men have lost their minds like liam inviting ariana to his family's thanksgiving that's like literally crazy like i would invite someone to my dad's thanksgiving but he's literally asked me for twenty thousand dollars to pay for the thanksgiving in the first place i'm not really sure where we're

8:37Ben Mandelker: gonna go from here um yeah i mean i feel like he just had ariana over for like what was his birthday with his family and now he's having her over for thanksgiving thanksgiving's a big deal it's a big deal yeah and then she talks about the stuff with shy and she's like i mean what the hell shy asking if he could kiss me while i'm still living with my ex he was on one bed i was on the other and he said can i kiss you and i said no like where are the boundaries yeah where are they where are the boundaries these days um so uh i don't know i i think i lost track of where we are in this very they're basically teasing her that charlie's gonna cry because ariana is dating liam she's like he can suck my ass like yeah he would so they're like what if hudson shows up to this friendsgiving thing what will we do because obviously the plan is to have Hudson show up and start some drama at Friendsgiving.

9:38So then we see Charlie, he's walking through the city. I miss his skateboard personally. I loved when Charlie would have his like, yeah, I'm a cool guy. I'm a skateboard.

9:48Ben Mandelker: So whatever. Yeah, he was like one of the people back then. And Ariana tells us that Charlie, Charlie loves to be involved in the drama. And he told Hudson to come to Friendsgiving to tell Liam like, what the fuck's going on? and put him in his place, you know? And then we see Hudson, right? We go to Hudson and he says, right now I'm thinking about coming and crashing the whole thing. And Charlie's saying, you'd love to see that confrontation play out. I love that Hudson is this like dweeby threat from Atlanta that they never know if he's going to like show up and then sulk. Like that's his whole thing.

10:21Ben Mandelker: Like is Hudson going to do anything? Hudson just shows up and sulks. Yeah, what's Hudson going to do? No one's afraid of you, sucker. and the producer is telling Charlie, wow, you're friends with everyone's ex. Do the guys just like you more? And he's like, yeah, it better be portrayed on the show. It better be like an episode like Everybody Loves Charlie or some shit like that. Yeah. So then they do a little sitcom intro. So now we see Charlie and Omar. They're going to have a little drink, talk about their bar that they're going to open up. and Omar is all about giving a lowball offer to this one spot that's like really struggling and then Omar's like so how was BravoCon and Charlie goes it was good I mean one of the panelists I think the one with the hunchback asked who's the fame change the most and everyone around the home just like Georgia Georgia Georgia Georgia and it's just sort of like this like I don't know minorly putting she was minorly putting her place it was really good I really love that.

11:21He's like, you would have loved it. Yeah, and then me and Ariana fucked in the plane bathroom and everyone made a huge deal about it. It was fun. It was fun. They talk about Hudson and he's just catching Omar up on all the gossip, but Omar still just a bundle of charisma, that guy. So how's it going with Ariana? How's it going with Hudson?

11:49Ben Mandelker: yeah he just he just pops on camera that's what he does yeah he just comes alive so then omar asks how hudson's doing and charlie says that he's down in atlanta and he just dipped bro she's like fucking she she's like fucking lean for sure that's what i gotta say and like you know ariana's like listing her friends to like to also be weird to him and like she told like riley to go kick him out of the group chat and it's just like a cold world bro They got to bundle up. So the producer asks Hudson, oh, you're still in close contact with Charlie. Why? And he's like, I think Charlie is the most malicious person I've ever met in my life.

12:27So I'm going to buddy up to him. I don't think Ariana is interested in him, but it's inevitable that Charlie is going to try and make his move on Ariana. So I'm playing my hand the best I can. Like the entire motive is to keep your friends close and to keep your enemies closer. So I'm trying to figure out how to manipulate Charlie before he manipulates me and then manipulates her. Yeah. Your girlfriend broke up with you and now she's going to go hook up with other people. That's it. Yeah.

12:57Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I don't know what you're trying to achieve here. Or like if they, even if they do like have sex, what, how you're going to be able to fix it by being friends with Charlie. He's just an idiot. This guy. Somehow he's worse than Charlie. I think his manipulation is that he wants to still be on the show without dating Ariana, so he's got to have other people to shoot with, so he's being friends with Charlie. Yeah. I don't think he's as smart as he thinks he is. He's just, I don't know. His whole game plan doesn't make any sense to me. You don't have to be that literal with the expression. It's time for a commercial.

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16:21Ben Mandelker: So it's the day of Friendsgiving, and so Brooks FaceTimes Ava, and he's like, look, I'm making turkey-shaped sourdough. And she's like, oh my god, does it even look like a bird? He's like, oh my god, like, I don't even know.

16:38And then Teresa and Gia are cooking, and Teresa's like, I'm so over-anitating, like, who wants to cook? Like, you only like doing that stuff in your 20s. Haven't you been selling cookbooks for, like, 20 years? seriously did teresa forget that she's trying to sell books online i think she forgot that part

17:00Ben Mandelker: um then rowan and uh brooke shields are trying to figure out how to make butternut squash soup and and brooke shields is like she's like well there's a reason i did a segment called brooke don't cook am i right everyone am i right brooke don't cook oh god i remember that really no

17:20Ben Mandelker: what did she do a segment on that's what i'd like to know brooke don't cook yeah i don't know uh so they're looking up how to make butter squash butternut squash soup and um she's like mom uh she's she's asking the digital assistant sue she's like sue how long do we need to cook butternut squash and brooke's like we're going to just leave it in here until soft god damn it okay geez look back to gia's uh gia and georgia are facetiming georgia's gonna come up and she's like i don't even mind if your parents are there like i'm totally good with parents yeah um and so uh brooke is talking about how she met uh georgia at a meals on reels event and she's like yeah she was lovely she was so pretty and so sweet and and so effusive about you rowan and rowan is like oh my god you're she's like impersonating her mom being like oh my god your friend came up to me and she's like very excited me i love you and love you loves you um but uh georgia tells us she's like yeah i charmed that generation i think like boomers they just like really like me they show seth and brooks and brooke and they're like not boomers or Teresa Broke.

18:37So, Teresa, the cookbook author, who insists that she wrote every single recipe herself and did not steal them from her grandmother at all or her mother, is like, hey, so how long does it take to cook a 13.7 ham?

18:59Ben Mandelker: And then Rowan, this is where Rowan and Brooke are trying to soften the squash and Brooke is like, we're going to cook the shit out of it until it becomes ripe. I was like, well, that's not quite exactly how that happens, but that's fine. I know what you're going for. Amira has the best kind of grandma. The best. You know, we all love this kind of grandma, especially on TV. We're like, hey, grandma. She's like, honey, you look so good. Oh my God, you're so beautiful. What are you making over there? Candy? The grandma's name is Betty, And I think the rule is that if you have a grandma named Betty, like she can act in no other way than this.

19:39Ben Mandelker: Like, is there a grandma Betty who doesn't act like this? She's like, oh, my God, you look wonderful. And Amira's like, I'm making your pecan pie. That's wonderful, honey. I love it. Well, I'll see you next week. Kevin's coming with me. Kevin, oh, I'm so excited. What a cool guy. He's just such a cool, cool guy. so then we go like to think these grandmas hang up the phone they're like little fucking bitch shit calling me during my shows now you call me what do you need let me guess she wants to learn how to play mahjong i don't play it so now it's 6 p.m at ariana's apartment and liam and ariana are making carrots and you know what sucks is that they all have to make this food and transport it to New Jersey.

20:31Ben Mandelker: That's a pain. That's a lot to bring all these dishes out there. Most of them are driving, you know, driven. It wouldn't have been good for me because I'd have been like that damn train and then the stairs and then really anywhere in New York. I don't want to be bringing food over. I feel like New York is not a good potluck city because of that. Liam and Ariana are making these carrots and Liam's like, I need a favor you know what I need and then they kiss and he's like yeah actually what I needed you was to bring me my side so I can run over this scene for tomorrow I got a big audition actor's life yeah hopefully it's for somebody who really understands carrots method method and then we go over to and then she gives him another kiss and she can drink now you guys because she's off probation he's like don't love the solo cups but uh that's how we got to do it that's this is how she was raised this is fine china in the zolciac home it really is i love ariana also saying sobriety's been great but i'm off probation now and i'm coming back hard i'm coming in hard i was like okay i guess i guess the lessons were not learned so then he's like so what do you like stem or stemless wine glasses and she goes I like a big stem oh yeah you like a big stem he's like yeah I like a big one like last night oh yeah being an actor you're used to all sorts of flirtations from girls but when there's that one that you really like you're happy to show off your big stem actor yay how was liam in bed oh he had a really big stem it doesn't sound good it's long skinny uh so then we go to friendsgiving and oh wait first the producer asked liam what he thinks of hudson possibly coming to friendsgiving just going to be a total surprise to everybody and he's like i'm not gonna let some stupid ex-boyfriend bother me Is he a motorcycle riding acting firefighter who ice skates?

22:54Nope.

22:58Ben Mandelker: I don't think so. Did he audition for an indie film that was only to be shown in a regional film festival in the shorts division? I don't think so, bro. I don't think so. Doubtful.

23:12So now Charlie's texting Shy. Thanksgiving and Charlie is texting shy that he thinks Hudson's bailing. And then we see an Instagram post from Hudson that his Lambo caught on fire in the middle of the night after being hooked up to a battery tender.

23:29Ben Mandelker: I don't even know. What is a battery tender? Do you know?

23:35Did you lose me, Banoons? No. Hold on a second, everybody.

23:41Ben Mandelker: I'm still here. I'm here. I'm looking up a battery tender. It's a smart electronic device that plugs into a wall outlet and safely maintains a 12 or 6-volt vehicle battery at full charge during long periods of non-use. Wow. Okay. So I guess it caught on fire. Wow. Yeah. By the way, why don't you just have... What's so funny about this is, you're wealthy enough to have a Lambo. Why did you not pay like the extra$500 to make sure you had like a charger safe outlet in your wall? Like, why did you use this battery tender? Like, why did you do this cheap work around? And now your Lambo caught on fire.

24:22I have to do that to recharge my Lambo. Guys, I got to recharge my Lambo. But if I'm gone for a while, I have to hook a battery thing up to my car. Like you recharge it and then, yeah, then you put it on your car. I don't know. And this is different than the. This is different than the charger you just plug your car into?

24:43Ben Mandelker: Well, I don't know. Are Lambo's all electric? I don't know. But like, for instance, with my Kia, since it's a plug-in hybrid, I had to have an outlet installed. And it's like it can't be like a normal outlet that you'd plug a toaster into. It has to be a certain kind of voltage that's higher. And then you plug in like this box. And then that's like your charger box. and then you plug in the charger from that box into the car. But like the point is like there has to be an adjustment in terms of like you can't just like necessarily plug in from the household. Like you could do something from the household and be a trickle charge.

25:20Ben Mandelker: And that's like takes a long time and apparently very expensive. All I'm saying is that I feel like Hudson probably tried to achieve work around that I'm like, bro, you've got a Lambo. Why did you not pay to have a proper outlet installed for your car? Oh, yeah. I don't know how Lambo's work. But I do have one question. Whatever happened to Gaius? Whatever happened to it, you know? It's a good question. So now Hudson's fucked, so he's not going to be making it to Friendsgiving. Well, you guys have teased us a lot for this big thing that's going to happen at Friendsgiving, which isn't going to happen.

25:58So thanks a lot, dicks.

26:00Ben Mandelker: Also, was he going to drive up to Friendsgiving in his Lambo? I don't see why his Lambo catching on fire prevents him from going to Friendsgiving. BG dubs. Oh, well, that's true. But I guess that's like your baby. You know, my Lambo's in trouble. I need to be with it. So now we go to Gia's apartment and Georgia comes over and Gia's like, oh, my God, last thing I have to do is make the Chaco to re-wash. Like, I'm good at that. Let me wash my hands so there's not a riot. Yeah, it smells good. Like, I'm going to make a cleaning product just for you. Like, I'm trying to show people that, like, cleaning can be, like, fun sometimes.

26:43Ben Mandelker: Yeah, because she hates cleaning, you know? Then Gia's boyfriend, Christian, shows up, and they're setting the table, and people start to arrive. They're in the common area of the building. They've taken it over. and um brooks and shy are you know there's there's still tension between them because of brooks deciding that he doesn't want to be a shy's photo shoot and then liam ariana are making out and um ava and then here comes kendall oh kendall arrives and liam is like kendall he's still trying to you can see he's still trying so hard to sell kendall on this group at this point jackson has dropped off.

27:24Ben Mandelker: I don't know. Maybe his dad was like, please don't be on reality TV. I'm an esteemed director. I don't need you to be on this show. Or maybe Jackson just realized, I don't want to be with these awful people. I can be with much better people. But either way, we still have Kendall with us. And for the first time ever, someone outside of Liam says something nice about Kendall, which is Ava. And Ava's like, Kendall's quiet, but she's clocking shit. Yeah. It's me, Kendall. I love Ava She's like so funny I went out with her the other day In Vegas And we ended up in a stretch limo Here's a picture of it We didn't even know how we got there Oh Kendall I mean it's amazing She doesn't have her own spin off at this point Kendall just kind of comes alive In one moment like What are we doing in a stretch limo Where am I Who are you Where's Liam

28:26Yeah.

28:26Ben Mandelker: She's the battery tender. So then Georgia, Prez arrives. Prez. You know, there is a lid for every pot. That's for sure. That's right. And Prez is definitely a lid that Georgia needs. Because he just shows up. And they're just, they just love being grossed together. They do. And I'm looking for them. They do. she's like um she's so happy to see him and uh she tells us what she said like prez and i are like in a really good place i could be like what do you think about getting marriage night and i'd be like maybe saying yes so charlie and shy are like talking about prez and everything and um charlie says look george is a fucking handful but if you're gonna sign up to be your boyfriend you should be loyal to her and prez is maybe smart enough to see that she's like a little bit crazy or whatever but he at least has to has to fake it for his girlfriend right man yeah so then it just cuts to prez and georgia dancing like really awkwardly to no music playing and george is like yeah it's really annoying because like his name is prez and so like every time he gets to meet somebody they're like prez wow is that short for something what is that it must be annoying that's why you don't name your kids weird names and they're like well what are you going to name your kids she's like only option is sushi

29:55Ben Mandelker: sushi this is from the lady who wants to open up a club club so Prez is saying yeah I was worried this was going to be a shoes off party she goes why are your socks mismatched and he's like no they just stink she goes oh did you just realize that today and he's like I've known it for days she's like yeah well wow you're making a really strong case for just like not smelling good she goes that's very anarchist actually just think at a party and know it is it anarchist to like have stinky socks on and have them on for a few days and then still wear them like um so prez is like yeah it's almost endearing to wreak like all over the place yeah yeah you're making a really strong case about not smelling good he's not let's get just stating that he he knew the socks were stinky a few days ago and still wore them like the moment you know your socks are your socks are stinky that's the moment they are they're out of play for wardrobe uh needs that means they're in the laundry Boomer.

31:01Ben Mandelker: Whatever, Boomer. So, Brooks and Shy go outside to talk, because they need to sort this stuff out. And Brooks says, Honestly, the whole situation with Shy has been weighing on me. I just want to be direct. I'm not really happy with how dinner went in New York. And Shy's like, I can only take so much shit, you know? at some point, I want to take a certain amount. And Brooks, I just can't take it anymore. So Shia goes, you know, just to say my piece, I've been frustrated about stuff, but it's also been like affecting me a lot. And like, you know how I mentioned, I was like, you know, I was like not authentic and distrusting.

31:43Ben Mandelker: You mentioned that about me. I like, I just felt like, I just felt like a fuck you for no reason, you know? And like, I've done, I'm done like walking around eggshells around you. Like I've tried for the past month and a half and I'm like, this is it for me. Like, honestly, I'm gonna like just say how it is, which is, here's the first thing I'm gonna say it like it is. What is this show? I said, what is this? Like a reality show? I've never even heard of a reality show. It's crazy. Bravo. What's that? Come on TV right now. This is not. And Brooks is like, well, I hurt your feelings. I didn't know I had that kind of power.

32:13I like you now. Let's be friends. He's like, okay. Well, we don't have to like walk around like being best friends in the West Village or anything. But like maybe we can have lunch. Like talk about fashion. He's like, for sure. Yeah. I completely agree. So there you go. Boom. Now they're friends. They settled it. They settled it. So he goes in and Brooks announces to everybody. He's like, Shai and I just pressed a reset button and nobody pays attention. And Shai's like, yeah, nobody gives a fuck.

32:43Ben Mandelker: No one cared. The drama everybody has been waiting at the edge of our seats to see finished. Seriously. Amira and Kevin arrive and Amira's nervous because Kevin and Charlie haven't seen each other since Halloween. But then Ariana's like talking to Charlie and asked about like what he did for his birthday. And he's like, I just chilled, sleeping from Vegas, from our long flight home. A lot of skateboarding during the day. It really tuckered me out, you know? It was hard, bro. She's like, yeah. It's a flight that we can't live down, am I right?

33:20And yeah, Charlie is like, Hudson was removed from the chat. I'm convinced he set his car on fire as a crash out.

33:29Ben Mandelker: which would be hilarious. That's like the ultimate, like spoiled little rich kid move is that he sets his Lambo on fire just for attention. So shy is like, I just think that Charlie's like kind of like an agent of chaos. He's flirting with Ariana. Like I'm sure he would like have loved it. If Hudson was here just for like the chaos of it all. Right, man. And so, uh, he's an agent of chaos and he loves chaos. It's like chaos. It's like a lot of chaos with Charlie. So they get food. They all sit down. The food looks pretty good. I was impressed. Yeah. with everybody um so riley starts giving ariana shit she's like you want to swap seeds so you can be closer to charlie and charlie's like huh yeah it was really funny it's really funny charlie's like that was chaotic and then they're talking about how the food is so good and then brooks says i love that we can trust each other that like no one poison them and mira's like oh my god wait until you get a bite of my pecan pie can't wait for you guys all to have the pecan pie a lot of hype on this one it's grandma betty's so then all right guys i've got a game we're gonna go around and say what we're thankful for about people so just pick somebody so they have to pick a name i guess and then go say something they're grateful about is that a game or is that just like hokey friendsgiving stuff so they go around amira pulls kendall first because um kendall i'm thankful for you because you always bring a positive vibe it's like as generic a statement as possible you know amira's like who's kendall uh hi i'm sitting right in front of you oh i thought you were a pa i thought you were just sitting in that chair waiting for the the actual cast member to take over okay oh well yes great to see you kendall kendall's like ah thank you um ava i'm really grateful for how our friendship Pepper's grown this, yeah.

35:19And then Riley's like, wow. Rowan, we always like laugh when we hang out. It's, you know, they need to do some Bravo games. Like if you're going to whip out a game, it needs to be like, okay, everyone take a little piece of paper and fill it with how you're going to make Brooks cry within the next five minutes. Okay. He wants to make Brooks cry first.

35:44Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Charlie says he appreciates Riley's honesty and that she has a good heart. And she's like, thanks. I would swap out my first class seat for you anytime. Shut up. So they're just all. Georgia was pretty funny. She's like, okay, I got Georgia. Georgia, I feel like I love everything that you wear. She's like, oh, my God. I'm honored. You're thankful for my clothes. Thank you. Yeah. So they're all being really nice to each other. And Ariana's is like, Charlie, I'm grateful for the way, one, that you make me laugh. And you're like, not as much of a dick as you give off. And I don't know, like, you're a douche.

36:26Ben Mandelker: But like, you know, I appreciate your douchiness. And everyone's like, ah, look at her being nice to Charlie. Yeah, so, I mean, everyone's like, what is she doing? And they're like, wow, there's a vibe. There's definitely a vibe with Ariana and Charlie. There's no denying it. And she does give the longest speech out of everybody. She's like, yeah, maybe other people don't like you, but I get you, Charlie. You're liking my heart. What the fuck is she talking about? And she's like, sorry, guys, this is my first night drinking. Well, drinking again. So, yeah, they're like, this is kind of crazy. So then we have officially a pee break.

37:11Ben Mandelker: It literally says it on screen. and ariana even riley go to the bathroom and ava's like um how's liam dealing with charlie and ariana's like well i mean who wouldn't be worried about it and riley says you know i'd be worried if my girl switched up her first class seat she's like well i love i love to give up my seat literally never heard anyone say that they love giving up their seat in a nice cabin on an airplane yeah no one no one's no one loves giving up their first class seat so meanwhile amira is trying to get people to eat her pecan pie, but not many people will for whatever reason. And George is like, I don't like pie.

37:47That's my only flaw. I don't like pie.

37:51Ben Mandelker: My only flaw. My only, I just don't like pie. But it's so funny because like for the rest of the episode or the rest of the scene, we just keep cutting back to Amira being like, does anyone want the pie? Does no one want the pie? Like she was so excited to bring this pie. She even teased it during dinner, like wait to try the pie. And then no one wants to eat it. Well, it's also the most we've seen her eat. You know, it's like when people don't eat a lot, but then they've made the pie. They're like, oh, my God, this pie is so good. Okay, but you're into it because it's your pie. Like, you don't have to sell me on the pie so hard.

38:25Of course, you don't really have to sell me hard on a pecan pie in general. I love a pecan pie. That shit looks good, especially if it's like an Aunt Betty pecan pie.

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41:05Ben Mandelker: Higher app engagement was associated with greater weight loss at 16 weeks. Back in the bathroom, Ariana is saying, yeah, I think I've heard enough about Liam saying he's going to have his dessert later. He said he wants dessert and he's going to eat my effing pussy. Like, ew. Everyone's like, ugh, gross. so Riley's has literally did like he bless it before he got to eat like oh my god Riley Burris I did not have sex with him so you're just like thank you for your service take me to brunch so I can eat now oh my god I know what Riley's saying right now in her head like what did I say after Hudson Riley goes yeah you're like my next boyfriend has to be tall and then you end up with five foot seven long stem over there he's like shut up riley okay he's like five seven one and two it's not about the height so uh rally then they start like trying to guess like how big liam's dick is um which you know this will be a 10 minute segment on the reunion and ariana's like everyone should know liam is doing great down there okay he's got height where it counts okay

42:22so she's like well i mean i can't tell you i can't i don't care how tall you are if you're an honest person he makes my heartbeat quick and my stomach turn in butterflies

42:33Ben Mandelker: so then everyone goes outside to take photos and charlie tells us as a group i think that we are closer in vegas i'm always in favor of keeping as much peace between me and the rest friend group as possible yes charlie the uh the peacemaker of of the group the one who is just trying to make sure everyone gets along and then liam tells us i think he's trying to get on good terms with the group maybe he's also trying to look like a different person for ariana was he trying to be an actor escaping into a role sorry bro got to be there who knows i see right through it uh so the producer asks if liam should be concerned at all that charlie and ariana flirt and he's like oh it depends on uh how seriously he wants to be with her you know like i think liam is perfectly fine rebound material but i mean like he's nice he's nice i i don't i don't have anything negative to say about i mean you can see him liam's like ariana tries to tell me charlie's a good person sometimes but the majority of people don't really say you're a good person so So if it walks like a duck, I don't know the saying.

43:39Ben Mandelker: The duck's a dick. Here's what I would say. If it walks like a duck and it can talk like a duck, has it ever had tacos at craft services with Mariska Hargitay? Think about that. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's probably a very qualified actor portraying a duck. Been there. Been there. so Ava is moving into her apartment and she's like oh my god it's so so real like moving into my apartment like no guys are allowed here only like women and gays and then it cuts to the mover standing there it's like ding yeah and then there's headlines cause Candy and Todd getting divorced so Riley texts you know Ariana about it and she was like not ready for it so then we see amira facetiming brooks and amira's like oh my god i look like hannibal lecter because she's in like one of those plastic masks like the infrared masks etc um she's like did you hear the news about riley's mom he's like i know it's crazy i feel like it's all over social media yeah and then we see all the girls texting in uh to check on her and see if she's okay and then riley and ariana go meet by the hudson river uh to talk about divorce and um riley's like yeah i mean today's been like low-key annoying i know my mom and taught her on a good page like they're co-parenting well i just like you know the young one so i'm like trying to deal with my emotions and see how i feel but like also be there for my mom you know and so she cries a little bit yeah i i feel bad although i was a little confused when she said she's the young one because i i thought she was the eldest child but maybe she meant like i'm the youngest one of the three adults in the household i guess you could say i'm not sure yeah i don't know because there's two babies so yeah i don't know but i don't know what she meant maybe she says that felt for the young one but no she said i'm the young one i don't know i think she just means I think she means that like she sort of views herself as an adult just the way her parents are.

45:57Ben Mandelker: But like of the three of us adults, I'm the young one. So she talks about how it sucks and everything and having to deal with a divorce and public opinion and public questions, navigating all that. And she says, I think people were pressing her a lot. And she was like, okay, I have to like publicly speak about it. But like I didn't know she was going to do it at that time. And I got like a text from a random number that was like, hey, is your mom okay? and she basically tried to reach she thought her mom something had happened to her mom and she tried to reach her mom her mom and candy was on a plane so she didn't hear back so she was sort of going through it etc yeah and candy just got annoyed with riley for having to find out stuff on the internet a couple of weeks ago candy he didn't give give her a heads up what the hell um so ariana's like well she's probably putting up a front that she's okay but she's not really okay and i want her to know it's okay to not be okay so i have like a nice little scene and then we hear amira doing a voiceover so i was like oh is this the is this it i thought it was the end like the season finale i'm so confused yeah but it was actually just like this is what we all did for thanksgiving so she's like well so um you know we all went often did things um mira um like amira and kevin went to texas for two thanksgiving dinners and brooks and kate also went to texas um and he wore brooks marks on the plane and then um riley went home brooks and kate maybe it's brooks and chloe riley went home to atlanta just everyone went home to celebrate thanksgiving i don't know why we needed all sorts of animation for this but i mean it was cute it was a very adorable little segment uh that was narrated and then they went to Thanksgiving.

47:45Ben Mandelker: And guess what, guys? Afterwards, they all came back. And now here we are, after Thanksgiving, back in the city. Yeah, so we see everybody doing their thing. Gia takes Pilates, Brex tries to figure out how to ship his clothes, and it's funny because he's asking the internet, how to get my packages from Austin to New York. It's like, please hold. yeah i think it just starts pressing zero over and over again um and then uh what basically liam is organizing the cast trip to go to wyndham to go skiing and he says skiing is a big part of my life i've been teaching skiing for five years now i have a buddy with a ski house in wyndham as a guy who loves upstate new york why not bring my friends to go ski bring this group of athletes to go skiing, bro.

48:38Ben Mandelker: That's just what I do. Firefighter in Lake George slash actor slash carpenter slash skiing professional. Brooks is like, I love it. I love group trips. What could go wrong? And we see flashbacks of fighting in their group trips. He's like, I'm more scared about the Catskill witch. And they're like, okay, what? Yeah, I learned about that in an online forum. Like, I'm like a paranormal freak. Like, I get excited by it. My house was haunted growing up. That was just your mom. I'd love the idea of a witch in the Catskills. God forbid Meredith tries to do some yoga or something.

49:21Ben Mandelker: Brooks is under his bed terrified. I love the idea of a witch from the Catskills. The witch is like, take my cats, please.

49:34Hey, anybody here want to piss on a fire hydrant? You're not dogs.

49:40Ben Mandelker: I'll give you five shekels just to get out of here. Otherwise, I'll hug you.

49:50So, listen, you can call me a lot of things. Don't call me a pussy, huh?

49:55Ben Mandelker: I said, there's something strange in my cauldron. And my friend, my other witch friend said, what's wrong with what's in your cauldron? I said, it doesn't taste right. She goes, okay, well, let me taste it. Okay. I said, okay, taste what's in the cauldron. She goes, okay, hand me a spoon. I said, okay. And she goes, wait, where's the spoon? I go, aha. And then she said, you saw that from coming from America. And I said, perhaps I did, but it felt right for this region. One of my friends who's going through menopause, she said, oh my God, is it hot? I'm burning up in here. I said, too soon.

50:35Ben Mandelker: so um they're gonna be going to the cat skills and uh um ava is now with rachel roy and there's they're setting up a budget and ava's like oh my god i made a budget for the move and i'm over by like two thousand dollars and i love rachel so sweet and so lovely saying And by over it, you mean in debt. You put it on the credit card, right? That means that you're in debt. You're in debt$2 ,000, honey. Just remember when you're buying things with a credit card, you're not really buying them. You're borrowing them. Okay. Yeah, honey, it's called being an American. What the hell? Guess what? It's time for Ariana and Liam to go on a date.

51:20Ben Mandelker: so Ariana is talking about how her ski stuff should be delivered because Hudson has to send her ski stuff over and Liam's like did the assistant send it? it's okay I have my hazmat book in case he puts anything in there so I'll check don't worry you've got a big week ahead of you you got mom coming to town you got Brielle coming into town don't you worry honey it's a lot of covering of your purse you're going to have to be doing Kim's coming to town. I get it. So then we go to Brooks, who's still on hold with the shipping people. And then they just hang up. They're like, thank you for calling.

52:01Have a nice day. He's like, oh. So now Ava, Amir, and Kendall go have a girls' lunch.

52:08Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Amir's like, this trip's going to be interesting. I mean, I feel like there's just like underlying tension. But I don't feel like there's anything that like there's like no drama. It's just like famous last words, right? And Kendall says, I know that Liam does love the group and wants to be friends with everyone. Like, he speaks highly about everyone except for, like, Charlie. Doesn't, like, don't, like, Ariana and Charlie, do they have, like, their own weird thing or something? I'm Kendall. Yeah, so the girls are like, so basically Charlie will go to any girl, okay? And Kendall's like, not me.

52:41He goes like, well, I mean, I think he just, like, has a crush on Ariana is what I mean. Like he has had a crush on her since the day he met her. And Kendall's like, well, I think Liam's picked up on that and he doesn't like it.

52:55Ben Mandelker: A million percent. It's like, but I also think that like if Liam's not hype about it, he needs to stand up for himself. Cause otherwise like Charlie will bulldoze. And so they're like, yeah, Charlie's good press spam boundaries. Like, yeah. And by the way, it was like really bad that Liam wasn't there in Vegas because like we all bonded in Vegas and things got like really close. And there was like flirty vibes back and forth to one another. and Kendall was like, she was giving flirty vibes to him. And they're like, yes, Kendall, yes. She was loving it. She was loving it so much, Kendall. She was loving the attention.

53:27He'd be like, oh my God, let me eat your pusese. And she'd be like, oh my God, no. But like, you know, like in a flirty way. And Amira's like, yeah, she's not exaggerating. So Kendall's like, wait a minute. from talking to the girls i'm sensing that there might be some energy between ariana and charlie

53:50Ben Mandelker: i love how quick she is then we go to charlie's apartment and charlie and shy are facetiming and talking about packing and charlie's like you seem exhausted shy what'd you end up getting into last night he's like oh i just went to the lower east side i was like what is this neighborhood i even heard of it lower east side like what there's a lower east side is there a lower west side too it like doesn't make any sense yeah well i've been busy last night ariana and like a few of her like girlfriends came over to like sesh you know how it goes i mean clutch your pearls bro are you ready to clutch your pearls and he's like why did you hook up with the ariana he's like yeah we only for like a second but i mean come on i don't kiss and tell bro you know you know i don't you know i don't kiss and tell stop asking me she just comes over in the middle of the night what do you think is gonna happen you're not gonna hear it from me though i'm not gonna say it yeah i'm not gonna say it's such a man it's so ridiculous and then the producer's asking he's like yeah nothing nothing too interesting happened um so shy goes sounds like you had an interesting night bro he's like yeah no it was like it wasn't like it wasn't like that eventful but like she definitely did come over drunk at 1am and i wonder like what liam would feel about that and shy's like this is too complicated like come on bro girl comes over drunk at 1am and she has a guy that she's dating I mean, bro, it's crazy.

55:06Yeah, I mean, that's just how it is, bro. He had another angle of interesting shit that could go down this weekend. So you never know.

55:16Ben Mandelker: They're all teasing up their trip. Like, who knows what could happen on the next-gen New York City trip coming next week on Bravo. Like, it's okay, guys. We're invested. What if Hudson comes? The ongoing story of the season. What if Hudson's there? Yeah. So Charlie's like, yeah, well, I'm not going to be beholden to anybody else. But if she wants to respect her thing with Liam, that's her decision. I owe him nothing. You know, the question is whether you tolerate it or not. There's an argument that if there was a girl I was talking to, I'd be like, what the fuck are you doing going over to someone's house late night drunk?

55:51Ben Mandelker: But she came over as a friend and we just hung out with her and her two friends. So I want to be super clear about that, that even though nothing happened and she came over with friends, I'm going to make it sound like she came over with no friends. and that something did happen but nothing did happen i'm like could you get your story straight you're changing it like mid-scene you're getting shy who's like the most easily manipulated person here on the planet probably to be like oh yeah fucked her just kidding didn't i wouldn't tell even if i did i mean i'm not going to talk about kissing and telling which i definitely did probably not do so just don't think that i'm talking about getting because i'm really not saying i'm with ariana even though we're together i'd just rather keep it a secret okay you got that shy okay don't say anything to anybody got it yeah um so shy's like uh dude would you actually do that though would you hook up with her he's like um would i have fucked you here well why wouldn't i i mean what's the downside shy goes um i don't know like hudson the guy's gonna be bankrolling your bar with Omar.

56:54Ben Mandelker: He's like, oh, yeah. I don't know. It's nuanced. It's nuanced. Yeah. It's not that nuanced. So Charlie says that Hudson's just not doing anything to try to get Ariana back. So, sorry. Like, try to get her back then if you want her. Like, don't just, like, bitch from Atlanta while your Lambo's on fire. Loser. Long story short, I believe Hudson might be kind of, like, fake with me just in the hopes that he can sort of, like, recruit me away from, like, trying to fuck Ariana. Which is hilarious because Hudson thinks he's being so sneaky and like Charlie's are just sniffed it out. He's like, I don't care.

57:28Ben Mandelker: I'll just get his money. Yeah, pretty much. So he's like, frankly, whether she owes her ex-boyfriend respect by not fucking me is also her decision, you know? So I don't owe anybody anything. Point is, I'm fucking Ariana, but I'm not saying that except that it's not really happening and I don't want anybody. I think that it's happening just because I'm saying that it's not happening, which I definitely said. Spread it. Tell your friends. Tell your friends. I love this show. I do love this show. I actually love this show. I think it's so good. You're bored? Yeah. I'm getting bored. I love it. I love it.

58:06Ben Mandelker: I think it's a hard one to recap. I like it for the most part. I think it's like, eh, all right. I'm totally invested. I think there is a way that they all talk with each other and with the audience that is, it's so unaffected. It's something that is so entertaining to me. And I think it's, I'm going to just sort of make my own boomer assessment, which is that these are people who are, they grew up in social media, making videos, talking directly to an audience on the other side of the camera. And now that they actually, I should say the other side of the phone. And now that they actually are on camera, they're just very much at ease, just sort of saying what they, just saying things in the confessional, saying things with each other in a way that's like very entertaining and kind of um it's i'm having a hard time articulating what it is about the way that they communicate and the way they sort of like interact with each other but you feel like you're just sort of like hanging out with a bunch of friends um in a way that i think that intimacy that like that false intimacy that comes from social media sort of this like it's like an extension of that i don't know i've been drinking coffee but i just really like the show a lot So you mean from the sense of – like the false sense of intimacy that comes from social media, you find to be – you find them to be like giving that social media vibe, which you find genuine?

59:31They're parasocial.

59:32Ben Mandelker: There's a parasocial vibe on social media when people like do their stories like, hey, guys, get ready with me in the morning. Like that's inherently very parasocial. Like you're inviting people into like your bathroom while you get dressed in the morning. And that's inherently very intimate, right? But it's so standard now that we don't blink at it. It's just like, that's how it is. And there's like an ease with which people on social media talk to their camera and say, hey, I'm doing this. I'm like chopping carrots. I mean, I do it. Everyone who's like making little making quote unquote content is used to that.

1:00:05Ben Mandelker: And it's like there's some reality shows that are very that like try really hard to create these very funny moments. I can think of like Big Brother, for example. Big Brother, whenever people are in the confessional and having to narrate how they feel or what's happening, it's very sing-songy. It's very much like I'm thinking I have to win this competition because if I don't win this competition, I could be out. And I'm not ready to be out. Like people talk like that. Whereas on this show, I think people are so at ease with just like communicating directly from what's in their head to a camera that there's just a vibe that's very accessible.

1:00:43Ben Mandelker: I don't know. Like, I was just trying to think about why this show sort of seems so entertaining to me. And that's the best I could come up with. Well, I get you. I think it's just a bunch of dum-dums. It's usually pretty fun. But they are really falling into the, like, uh-oh, what if Hudson comes to Friendsgiving? Hey, guys, Hudson's going to show up and have a scene at Thanksgiving. Oh, my gosh, what if Hudson shows up? Is Hudson going to show up? And then his Lambo starts on fire. that one's asked they're like bringing kendall to lunch to be like oh you know this liam should be upset because here's what's going on with i mean that part all seems so you know staged and stilted to me like they're really trying on that but i do see what you're saying as far as their confessionals and being so comfortable there and i guess it is that being comfortable with social media you know that's that's my theory i mean obviously people who are not gen z are also comfortable on social media but i just feel like there's just like an ease with which they communicate and i think the show is also really good at highlighting kind of funny little observations that that they make with each other in a group setting that it's like very endearing and likable so yeah i i'm i love my next gen new york city uh i love it well good news it'll be it's gonna keep on coming back next week we go on their group trip which looks pretty funny so We'll talk to you next week for Group Trip, everybody.

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