#3516 Next Gen NYC S2E010: The Windham Beneath My Wings

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1:54Ben Mandelker: Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens?

2:24Ben Mandelker: August 27th. And I'm calling out the date because tomorrow on August 28th, we will be announcing the cities and dates for our next tour. So everyone tune into the orange County episode because the cities are dropping. The dates are dropping. We are, we have still have yet to find out when our tickets will be going on sale, but we're going to let you know the dates because this way you can pencil them into your calendar. They're coming up sooner than you might expect. And we're really, really excited for this one. So everything from what cities we're going to, to when and where the golden crappies are, stay tuned.

3:04Ben Mandelker: And of course, it'll be on our social media as well. Of course, it'll be everywhere. You know us, but keep an eye on an ear out for that. Also, thanks to everyone who tuned in to the first three episodes of What's Your Order. It's the new show we just put up on YouTube. We had Kiki Monique and Courtney Frane and Eric Williams on three different episodes to talk about countdown things in the world of Bravo. Best one and done housewives. Best housewives dinner parties. Best housewives locations. Things like that. And there's more to come. So, new episodes. I'm going to drop the new episodes Tuesdays or Wednesdays.

3:41Ben Mandelker: I don't know. So keep an ear in line. Congratulations on the new show, Ben. It's a good one. Thank you. We're loving it. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, the response has been so warm, and I really appreciate it. I finally got to put this little studio behind me to good use beyond just board game content. Well, that's good use, too. It is. Use it. You built it. Now you will come. You built it, and now you can. You're your old dreams. If you build it, you will go to it. That's like a very low-stakes thing. Oh, we're not promising any ghosts. We're just saying if you build it, you'll probably go there.

4:18Yeah, so go check out Ben's new show where he's coming. No, I'm just kidding. Fabulous. Yeah, it's a good show. Everybody's loving it. It looks great. Sounds great. Feels great. Feels great, guys. It's like a warm sweater. Today is Next Gen NYC, which you can get on video over at our Patreon, along with bonus episodes, newsletter, ad-free listening, all that good stuff. Go over to Patreon. And thanks for being here today. Next Gen NYC Season 2, Episode 9. You win them, you lose them.

4:56Ben Mandelker: Well, well, well. This was a fun-ass episode. I really, really enjoyed this one. First of all, I loved that the first half, they just put all the kids into tiny cars and just stuck them in traffic on the New York Thruway for hours on end. And the way they were all, like, they had no room in there. They were like little sardines, little adorable sardines in those cars. I was cracking up. Of course, they would do this to the youngins on Bravo. But I thought everything was so funny. Well, they do it to all ages on Bravo. They don't get sprinter vans at this age. Yeah. But Bravo has shoved people into cars for a long time.

5:36And it's always so fun to watch it. I know. A bunch of divas. you'd think they deserve more being shoved next to each other into a car.

5:45Ben Mandelker: Yes. So Charlie and Ava are, they're walking through the city and everyone's getting ready for the ski trip and they're excited and there's a lot of like back and forth about it. Amira has decided that she wants to arrange a shady secret Santa experience that they have there and she's like, gonna like arrange all the people who will be invited to that, but then she leaves off Georgia, which is inherently shady, but she can't remember. Amira's just doing every scene now like she's doing Gossip Girl. Like, even, they're just like, okay, Amira, sit on your couch and, I don't know, just do something.

6:22And she's like, well, we were thinking of doing a shady Santa. It was 6 p.m. when she thought to herself, why just have a regular Santa when you can have a shady Santa? Then she tilted her head back and laughed.

6:38Ben Mandelker: I mean, isn't Santa inherently shady? He's literally sitting there being like, you're naughty, you're nice, you're nice, naughty, naughty, nice, and now I'm going to invade your home. And I'm going to eat the cookies that you left out. I'm going to break into your house, I'm going to make out with your mother, and I'm going to eat all your carbs. And then I'm going to judge you afterwards. And then I will decide if I'm going to give you gifts. That's like pretty shady, actually. He's a shady bitch. yeah then they he gives you shit like you know less calories more filling it's like how is this christmas santa he leaves a note like i'm not gonna pay a lot for that muffler i'm like what are you talking about santa you're in a sleigh you don't even have a muffler he's just doing uh he's just he's just doing advertising taglines he's sponsored boy spanks and then advertisers for a pet boys on the way out where's the beef

7:40liam is walking through the city and he's like you know i love hosting yeah it's on my black this could get interesting but you know it's an adventure it's an adventure by the way i'm in love with somebody that i met two days ago on a tv show is it for storyline probably but you know what i'm an actor i'm a firefighter i'm a car racer i'm a horse rider basically do it all renaissance man include love bomber and possible stalker onto that okay because i do have her location already got liam this was the episode liam officially gave me the creeps

8:14Ben Mandelker: i think it well first of all let's let's not like overlook the him saying that hosting is in his blood. What does that mean? I come from a long line of people who love having people over.

8:30Pretty big. My 23andMe was dinner rolls and white wine.

8:36Ben Mandelker: That's right. My bloodline came over on the Mayflower and once we arrived, we said, hey everyone! Who wants some anti-scurvy oranges over at our place? We'll put them out. Hosting is in our blood. we started one thing my family taught me on the mayflower long long time ago bring your guests blankets you never know when it's gonna get cold out there

9:03Ben Mandelker: yeah man uh back in back in norway where my bloodline goes to that's right there were norwegian pilgrims little known fact but uh back in norway uh we would go out see a moose and say Hey, miss, come on over for dinner. I'm going to feed you some brown cheese. Sorry, hosting. It's in our blood. That's what we do. Now, back to what you were saying about the episode that gave you the creeps on Liam. I don't have the creeps on Liam. I just think that Liam is playing a persona he's seen on TV. and the person that he really is is just a little nerd who's really not gotten very far with a hot girl and suddenly he has and he's like so excited and he's doing all the wrong things and he's because he's like basically he's like oh my god i can't believe this is happening i gotta lock it down i've never had a hot girl like me before so uh he's just like oh really that's the vibe i get way of looking at it that's not how i'm looking at it i'm looking at it like this guy comes onto TV show immediately wants the most popular girl so he can be with the most popular girl on TV.

10:13She's just broken up with the guy. He doesn't care, which is, you know, OK. But then he's immediately getting jealous and he has her location and shit. I don't. It's weird to me. Like, I don't approve. And you know her only on TV. So I think he seems like a fucking weirdo. I don't like him.

10:32Ben Mandelker: Well, he's definitely a weirdo. I don't approve of this. And I'm not saying like One thing doesn't have to be different from the other. I just feel like the version of Liam that he presents to us, I don't feel like it's a real him. I just think he's like a nerd. And he's just spiraling out because this is very exciting for him. And I'm not saying this like, isn't that so cute? I'm saying it like, dude, get it together. I do think the whole thing of like, wow, I said I was going to bed and then she didn't come up to bed with me. It actually really took me back to high school because there was a child actor in my high school who acted exactly the same way as Liam.

11:11Ben Mandelker: That's why I have so many direct mental comparisons because every single thing he did, the way he carried himself, the way he talked, the way he did things, but also the way he tried to create codependency with his girlfriend. It's exactly the same. And I'm like, is this just what child actors do? based on a sample size of one and then someone on TV. I don't know. But that's where I'm coming from. Man, Jonathan, Nicky really threw you over. I'll tell you. He did a number on you. I'll tell you. Man, now is, I guess, a good time for me to mention that I was held back 14 years in a row. That's why he became my classmate.

11:57That Webster. God, really?

11:59Ben Mandelker: really did something to you yeah it's a blind item it's a blind who is the child actor there's no one famous i'll tell you that much hmm oh were they just like a local theater actor or what or i think they appeared they appeared on stage and they had like one like bit role in like one movie and he's very nice he's very nice but it just like in a relationship he was just so overbearing. It was like, ugh. Well, now we go over to Ava's apartment, and they're talking about the trip while they set up a little Christmas tree that they bought. And they're talking about rooms. Like, who's getting their own room?

12:41And Charlie's like, I'm not sharing a fucking room with anybody. That's crazy. Like, honestly, but like, we don't get enough intel. Like, we need to ask, like, how many beds are in each room? Charlie, you're not getting your own room in someone's family cabin. it's just this is like classic housewives where we go to a family cat how many rooms do you think

13:00Ben Mandelker: they have do we does anyone want to be rooming with charlie though i mean i feel like uh based on the last person they found in a town home that charlie was in i'm not sure that's a situation i want to wind up in tell you who doesn't want to room with charlie anybody with Bitcoin. No one. No. Shy, make sure you stay analog. Yeah, I think I should do the rooming thing because he's following around Charlie like a puppy dog and Charlie's trying to use him for, you know, being his little sidekick or whatever. So there you go. You aren't shy. You got shy. Yeah, exactly. I'm surprised Hudson wasn't on this trip, but maybe he was busy at a brother from Don't Tell Mom I Killed the Babysitter's Dead hair convention.

13:56He's like, guys, I saw one of the cleaning ladies using a Swiffer duster, and I said, I've got to get that hair.

14:02Ben Mandelker: So I'm working on it. I said, guys, I just saw Weapons and Amy Madigan's character. Wow, her hair was amazing. I thought, I just got to follow it. I just got to lean in. that's just somewhere with his arms out running towards method he's running running towards like douchey jewelry um so charlie uh is not gonna share a room he has he has boundaries um and now he wants to know what the house he wants a link to the see what the house looks like he's like he wants liam to send a link so he knows what the airbnb is and then um basically everyone's making all these demands like what about the i don't want to live here i don't want to be this what's that what's the layout how where is it how far is it is it got northern exposure what's going on yeah uh then uh we go to georgia and shy and they're like is there a hot tub well there needs to be a hot tub here do we even check to see if there's a hot tub i don't know if there's a hot tub we should probably text them and see if there's not a hot tub we'll bring the hot tub i can't tell if it's a good thing for georgia go to the hot tub because it's probably the closest she'll get to being cleaned or is it a bad thing because then people have to be in the hot tub with georgia's germs hey how dare you she's coming out with a cleaning product called yuck formerly the artist formerly known as yuck yeah um so now liam and ava are on facetime and they're checking in on these rooms and stuff and um she's like is there any info you can give about these rooms yeah me and ariana are working on it right now we're basically married so uh charlie you're cool to share with shy right he's like definitely not bro i don't share that's ridiculous how many bedrooms are there it's just what we're trying to find out just so let me know okay charlie you can't you can't both try to sleep with the guy that sleep with the girl that this guy is dating and be an asshole the whole time to him and then demand the best room in his house you have to kind of manipulate here charlie you have to at least pretend to be a good person until you get the good room come on yeah yeah could just try um ava's like i truly don't think liam knows what he's got himself into i love that when ava talks like her head starts to tilt over it's like ah this talking is heavy i just she never really quite stays up um so then If I didn't hear Ava speaking, if I was just watching this, like, you know, you kind of scroll through TikTok or whatever on silent.

16:39You just see what people are doing, don't hear it. If I was doing that and I saw Ava, I would think that it sounded like this. Because her eyes are just blank. Like, she's got this blank kind of stare in her eyes. But she doesn't talk like an idiot. It's not like she looks stupid. It just looks like nothing is happening behind her eyes. and then whenever she talks or says something really funny i'm surprised because i just see

17:09Ben Mandelker: yeah seriously and she's she's really come out of her shell this season she's way more energetic she's way a way bigger part of the show she seems to be more all in i think last season i felt like she was still considering modeling and like as her main gig and this time she's like oh this is now my new main gig so like definitely like great improvement on ava's part but i definitely get this energy and by the way as long as we're talking about ava i'm really amused that the producers still keep using that random footage of like her face and shy's face superimposed over little like hand-drawn bodies i don't know why that cracks me up every time they show it they just keep showing shy's head bopping back and forth on this little like crayon man body yeah i was trying to make out with her in vegas yeah so now we go to amira and she's talking to riley about the room situation and of course you know charlie's having a fit about it and um Riley said I said I would do a room with the mirror but I know she's not doing a bunk bed and the mirror's like yeah I've never slept enough it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial I have a giant deck outside and needed to furnish it and was worried about getting things that matched and getting things from different stores and making it all work together well it ended up all working out beautifully with Wayfair I got every piece out there from Wayfair.

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19:56Ben Mandelker: What if it wasn't Thanksgiving? Being the Grand Dame isn't a one-day-a-year affair. Every day is a chance to get down with turkey burgers, ground turkey, and more. Eating turkey is like watching Bravo. You can do it anytime, and the more you do it, the happier you are. Yeah, Butterball Turkey is made for everyday moments that bring people together with ease, and it tastes great while doing it. Do you think if a Butterball turkey showed up at the Real Housewives of Rhode Island reunion, it could bring everyone back together? Maybe it would, girly. Maybe it would. I love a turkey. Butterball simplifies cooking so you can focus on who you're cooking for.

20:31Ben Mandelker: Butterball has turkey made for the way you care, whether you're cooking for your best friend or mending bridges with your frenemy. Butterball. Care hard, cook easy. And then we go to Rowan's apartment, and this is a lot of just back and forth about the room. It goes on and on and on and on. Nobody wants to share a room, okay? We don't need to. Well, some people said if they have to share a room, they may not even want to come. And I'll give you one guess who's saying it. And Brooks is like, I'm totally great if Charlie's uncomfortable with that. That's perfect. Liam's like, I knew there was going to be some fuss about the room situation, mainly because in a short film I wrote once that I never shot, I played a guy who didn't like rooms.

21:19Ben Mandelker: And so I went from room to room. You ever hear of back rooms? It's called front rooms. And you're just trying to get out of rooms that are perfectly visible. And it was a great role. It's a shame it never got shot but uh at one point we had cleanly attached um uh as someone who would hopefully see it someday and i don't know if that ever worked out but it was great i learned a lot from it i know about rooms because i'm an actor now so thanks thanks everyone um so now we go to georgia we see bright neon splat graphics that say yuck and like comic book font and we find out This is the logo for Georgia's cleaning product.

22:00Ben Mandelker: It's so fun. Yuck. Yuck. And she's meeting with her guy, Christian. He's like, um, hi. You're so excited about yuck. We're all thrilled about it. How are you feeling about yuck? You excited every day you wake up in the morning? We are. This is going to be huge, Georgia. Hey, yeah. She's like, um, yeah, I don't like to talk too much about what I'm working on unless it's like coming to fruition yeah and so then christian's like yeah so um we're gonna go we're gonna show you a direction where the splat is the logo itself so before it was like splat supporting a logo now splat is the logo what do you think about that oh my god that's like sick can we talk about this logo okay so you've got the comic book font already that says yuck which is pretty stupid but then he says it's going to be a splat it looks like it's just like splooge like it's like a long stream of like it's not a splat it's like a long drip it's disgusting it the product looks like something you use to to get a stain not to remove a stain it's called yuck and it's like a stain and it's like hey are you concerned that your sofa doesn't look lived in get yuck yeah do you have too many people wanting to come stay on your couch well here just spray some yuck on it it'll look like you've been splooging on it for years so um so that he's like christian's like well do we need to talk about the elephant in the room which someone asked her i guess now every season she's like um like where's cooper like i'm gonna to be like moving in a different direction with a partnership like my idea is basically cooper stays on is like creative consultant you know this is cold she dumped cooper from the business project that's bad georgia cooper's your gay you can't just do that to your gay what do you think is going to happen to you when you dump your gay that gay is a vault he's full he's full of all of your information, Georgia.

24:14I wouldn't do this. Now, I would just not do this because they're so close, not because he really brought a lot to the table because of their first business meeting. Christian's like, oh my God, what are you thinking for cents, guys? What are we thinking? He's like, yeah, well, you know what? We could do like iconic things. Like, you know what's iconic? Pumpkin spice lattes.

24:35Ben Mandelker: Pumpkin spice. It's like, thanks. Thanks, Cooper. It's probably for the best that he, for him to not be messed up in this situation. And so then she's like, the producer says, so what's going on with you and Cooper? She's like, I can't talk about it, but if you have any questions, I can direct you to my attorney. And then they're like, yeah, she has not provided her attorney's information. It's Cooper. We just see the picture of the attorney. Cooper's like, hmm, yeah, I guess that this is my job now. I will be suing myself. Georgia. Gay's work is never done. uh new jersey mall two days before what's that cooper badore cooper yeah he's like wow i came up with the new soap idea wow it's not my fucking soap so uh meanwhile as we approach the ski trip rowan and riley don't know how to ski so they've gone to uh the place where everyone goes to ski to learn a New Jersey mall.

25:39Ben Mandelker: So there is apparently a bunny hill that's been built in a New Jersey mall. So these old malls are dying left and right. They're emptied out. They're being turned into office space or whatever. So I have to assume that someone said, hey, let's turn this New Jersey mall into like a ski slope, which is pretty cool because I thought they only did that in Dubai. So it's nice to know that New Jersey is getting even closer to the high standard of luxury that is. that is dubai um but uh they otherwise known as but why they have their own little ski place new jersey is the dubai of new jersey um but yeah it was actually pretty cool they go to so they go to learn how to ski in the mall yeah this one does and then one day before the ski trip charlie and liam doing their photo shoot for shy which is nice some people show up and Liam's like, yeah, how did I end up here?

26:41Pretty big, but you know, also an actor, acting's in my blood, pretty much, photo shoots are in my blood, modeling's in my blood, so that was pretty good.

26:50Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I know that you guys want, it's pretty cold. I know you guys wanted some space heaters, but as a volunteer firefighter, I had to actually nix that. I was not sure what the fire code is for those sort of things. So I just authoritatively said, you know what? We're just going to rough it out. We're doing this method, cold models. Let's get into it. Yeah. And Charlie is supporting, but Brooke still refused, even after the makeup. And he not only refused, he's having his own photo shoot the same day. And this is for Brooke's Mark's Resort Wear. Okay, everybody, we're going to put on Brooke's Mark's Resort Wear, and then we're going to cross the street.

27:30This is hilarious.

27:31Ben Mandelker: they're wearing the light Terry or the Terry light. They're all freezing because it's like five degrees. And for some reason they decided to film it and then they walk, they're all being like blase and they're like walking across the street together. It was like a clump of like Jen's ears. It's sort of like reminiscent of, of the old simply irresistible video or whatever the Robert, what's his face. And they're just, it's just the funniest image of them walking. I'm like, Oh yes. Thank you for selling us on your resort wear by showing people wearing it. a city street in the cold in the cold freezing out just where you want to wear your resort wear and they can't make it across the street they keep trying it's like frogger it's like watching frogger just cars keep coming trucks full of logs that are about to fall off and crush them they finally get a shot where they make it across the street and then a biker comes right in front of them and seems passing and then the biker like catches onto one little cloth and all the light terry comes as well terry light standing there naked no terry um so then the producer asked charlie uh do you think liam feels weird about you being here and charlie's like ah i can't really tell i mean i would imagine it's awkward i don't know if he knows what happened you know and liam's like i mean i had her location i knew where she was people don't actually understand how close we've gone in this amount of time she told me i have nothing to be worried about with Charlie.

28:58Ben Mandelker: She told me she wants to be with me and she wants to pursue me. And I was like, that's great, because I can't wait to introduce you to Mariska, a good friend of mine. And, you know, he's your friend, and that's where you get your weed. Do it. I can get you some weed, though. I know how to do it. I played a weed dealer in Law & Order. So, pretty skilled. So we see more scenes of the city. Everybody's packing. Liam talks to his brother, Wyatt. Tells them where they're going. And Brooks is still trying to make this Catskill Witch thing happened, which I'm not really getting, but they're doing it a lot.

29:32So I think it's hilarious to somebody. It's like, nothing says friendship and bonding like warding off the Catskill Witch.

29:42Ben Mandelker: It's so sad to see Brooks revert into his classic Brooks Marx form that we knew from Salt Lake City because last season I felt like we really got to see this sweet, lovable Brooks who's sort of shy and cute and like he was the center of the show and now he's just sort of back to being like ill about everything and it's it's too bad oh really he seems the same to me really has he ever changed i don't know to me just he seems like he's always been the same i just feel like he's like he's just very tertiary on this season and when they do check in on him He's like, this is like a lot. I mean, I'm amused by him, but I don't know.

30:26Ben Mandelker: I felt like we got a more three-dimensional person last season. Brooks, how dare you talk about my toddler? Yeah, I mean, to me, Brooks has a lot of things. One thing I would never accuse Brooks of having is an arc. He's just kind of the same. Yeah. So now we're talking about Liam's film. He's like, yeah, I had the most stressful day checking for Sundance. It was rough. They pushed a date to next Monday. So it's not a no. It's just a see you next Monday kind of a thing. You know, I wrote the script, turned it into a short and Sundance. Did you notice he did that? He said, I've been submitted to Sundance, but I had to rewind it a couple of times because I was like, wow, he made it into Sundance, but he wasn't saying that.

31:16He was like, I've been submitted to Sundance and South by everywhere. Academy Awards pretty much. We're up for an Oscar submission so it's going pretty good.

31:31Ben Mandelker: Yeah, a short film is called Carrera. It's about Marble. Just kidding. It's about a hard-boiled guy named Carrera. You gotta see it. I understand. It's pretty cool. So then the producer's like, well, since you're a ski instructor, do you have a nickname? And he's like, oh god I fucking knew it oh god did my boys tell you about that you gonna insert the sticker or the nickname that they give me on the slopes bro man being an actor's hard so Gia calls Brooks and um she's like I'm freaking out like I can't find that fucking brown jump so I need to find it saying Anthony please let me find it Oh my god, I found it.

32:17Okay, Gia's storylines wrapped up.

32:21Ben Mandelker: I don't know who St. Anthony is, but I feel bad for St. Anthony. Well, I just feel bad that St. Anthony is now tasked with fighting Gia Judas' missing brown jumpsuit. Like, of all the things. Someone's like, I can't find the will. We need to find the will. Oh, we need to do this. Oh my god, where are the keys? If we don't get to the keys, this whole place is gonna burn down. Where's that? Can you find my brown jumpsuit? It just goes with my outfit for going to Wyndham, New York. It just feels low priority for a saint. My brown jumpsuit. Yeah, St. Anthony of Padua is the Catholic patron saint of Lost Things.

32:57And the legend is a young novice lost his book and St. Anthony had to find his book. I mean, similar to a brown jumpsuit.

33:06Ben Mandelker: I feel like St. Anthony was sort of given. They're like, what should we give St. Anthony? How about lost things? So people stop asking us about their keys. Anthony was so sweet. We've got to give him something. We've got to give Anthony something. Wait, is that the guy who brought that book back to the lost and found? That's it. That's it. That's it. That'll be him. And just imagine, we'll tell him it's like a good thing. And then guess what? No more requests for missing papers. All the saints rejoice.

33:43Um, so Brooks is like, oh my God, you found your jumpsuit. That is kind of insane.

33:52Ben Mandelker: Um, so then Brooks, guess what? Brooks is stressed about the room situation. He's like, do you have any tea on that? And she's like, the only people who have their own room are Ariana and Liam. And he's like, wait, they aren't like together, right? She's like, what? And then, then she's like, you know, she's like, yeah, Brooks. I mean, like, they're together. Duh. Yeah. Brooks somehow has missed this entire storyline. What's that? Brooks has somehow missed this entire storyline. Yeah. He's like, I really believe in love. Like, I'm so emo when it comes to relationships. Like, you could literally run me over with my car and I'll still love you.

34:35I'm not a disatism, though. Hmm.

34:40Ben Mandelker: um now we have a scene with ariana and brielle and uh and various friends and ariana is just like so happy that brielle's there and she's like guys last night like you know i was like grilling um i was like grilling him uh like i don't know who she's talking about she's talking about carson i don't know about they're talking about fucking talking about fucking guys etc what are they talking about here they're talking about charlie they're talking about liam um i was talking about guys and ariana says i've not felt this way in my heart in my mind and my vagina all in sync at the same time i mean this man is in front of me and like i don't want the next bitch to get him because i want him and rielle is like wearing sunglasses inside at night of course because she's real it's like yeah he told me what he got you for christmas like i'm not telling you but it was like the most sweetful thoughtful non-car item that you've ever gotten like he's amazing and then uh carson's like carson's like their friend and carson's like wait you're spending christmas with liam and ariana's like i mean i'm assuming so i'm like not trying to move at a too fast of pace which is why i told him but like don't ask me to be your girlfriend yet though so um brielle is telling carson like maybe i think he would give you a ring tomorrow right and carson's like no gosh like don't no you're going too fast like how long have even known him and ariana's like two months and carson's like yeah well you don't really know someone until like it's like a psychopath needs like three months so on the three months we'll know if he's a psychopath yeah who's that carson person just that thinking friend of theirs who's interesting i want to see more of that i want to see more of whatever whatever is going on with carson i want to see more than that she's like yeah wait you're gonna wait yeah you know they're gonna be a second of three months honey i guess bring more carson where where'd this person come from need more yeah um so uh now it's time to head out to the to upstate new york and they hop in the cars and they uh originally it's they get in the car at 10 8 10 0 8 a.m and their ETA is 1 p.m.

36:59Ben Mandelker: Swift three-hour drive up the New York State three-way. What could possibly go wrong? Yeah. And Cheyenne Rowan are talking. And he's like, oh my God, this is so crazy. We're just taking an e-bike. I was like, I'll get to therapy on 72nd. It's crazy. I even go further to the psychiatrist. Let's look even further. I do it on the e-bike. What is even a car? I've seen i've like heard about them i've actually like never been i just like only ride bikes like that's what you do like i ride bikes i just like upcycle some clothing have you ever upcycled a bike into a shirt like that's what i do like a car i don't like i don't even know what this is like what is this is like it's crazy and then we go to georgia and rowan and georgia's like yeah i'm like a terrified of like highways i would be too we we see this giant suv going between two cement railing things what are those called when they put those on the freeway they're always there I feel like in New York.

37:56Ben Mandelker: The way that was such a, the way you just were like, you were so, in that moment, you were just purely full of disdain for those pylons. You just literally, I hate them. Always there. Because, you know, you should be staying in your lane either. It's not like I'm saying, oh, you should be able to drive all over the road, but you have like two inches on either side of the car. And otherwise you're fucked. And you see the side of those things and they're covered with scrapes and cars crashing. yeah it's kind of cozy though kind of feels like you're on your own little when you're driving it feels like you're you're like you're like a ball bearing you're sort of like in your own little thing and like you know this just can't go super fast though it is a little scary but it's cozy scary and cozy george is like yeah i don't even have my license like i mean i haven't had it for like seven years i don't know where it is so like when i need it i just show like people a picture of my id and that works like nine times out of time i like when they They were like, so wait, does it mean like when you say you don't have a license, does that mean you don't have a license or you don't know where your license is?

38:58Ben Mandelker: She's like, yeah, I think I lost it like seven years ago. Please don't ever let this lady drive. It will not work that well for anyone. Georgia pulls over for some breakfast and she's like, oh my God, I got my bacon and my cheese or as Cuomo says, egg, cheese and bacon. i think that lost him the election honestly like who says everyone's like what egg cheese and bacon that's fucked up she just has these monologues of the producer like in the back in the back of cars like if they could just drive her around and just capture that footage and put it on bravo we'll be happy she was like i mean everyone missed that he called it egg cheese and bacon like who does that so um then amira has something to say because they're all now they're stuck in this awful traffic and so amira is like do you guys know about my google review account i have an alter ego in google reviews his name is john blake and he's a local level seven guide and john blake is this part this persona where she leaves like either massive raves or massive pans of restaurants with on google yeah she says she has like a hundred thousand followers or something for this guy, right?

40:14Didn't she say she has like a ton of followers or something? It's crazy. So she reads one of the reviews and she's like, we're enjoying our drinks and appetizers. Large middle aged man said he was going to change his baby's diaper at the table directly next to us. And if you want to enjoy the fine fragrance of a used diaper cooking in the sun while you wait 30 minutes for an ice water refill, then this is your place.

40:40Ben Mandelker: I say John Blake more of it um she goes yeah no one will ever suspect it's me like you're on camera so uh georgia is still just like uh puttering her way up to the ski house and now she is uh-huh now she's talking to her cousin and she's like so gordon the big update is that i'm 99 sure it's not gonna be called yuck anymore so don't feel super strong the trademark's gonna get approved So back to the drawing board on that. I was thinking about like, ew, gross. Or maybe, holy shit, that's the worst fucking thing I've ever seen. Do you think that'll be allowed? Yeah, I've like always been under the belief that like it's better to do business with someone that you're like close to.

41:29And then they show Cooper with an X over his face and Omar with an X over his face. She should call it club club soda. Cleaning agent. Oh my god. She should call it Country Club Club. So then we go to the other car. Now the current ETA is 5pm. And they're like, what the hell? That's crazy.

41:53Ben Mandelker: That's a full-on fucking nightmare. That's crazy. Sorry. I'm just going to say it again. That's crazy. So many hours. Yuck. So then... Trademark infringement. Crazy. They're four hours behind schedule. That's terrible. Stain, stain. Stain, stain. So they're playing games in the car and Charlie's like, okay, shy. Would you rather two inches off your height or two inches off your dick? Depends on how much meat you have to work with, I guess. He's like, uh, off my dick, I guess. But yeah, I just really don't want to be short. and then um kendall meanwhile kendall's in the other car and she goes my mom got me this game it's called bad people and i pulled a card yesterday night yesterday night and the one i pulled said who would who would be the worst reality tv show star and then gia just turns to kendall goes i mean i would just say like maybe right now like just because like you have to get more comfortable kendall kendall's like oh she didn't say somebody in the car just said who would be the worst reality star pick literally anybody in the world she's like you kendall sorry kendall's like i was about to say probably me i mean it wasn't great hearing it from you guys i'm glad you guys brought me jay goes yeah but like you're not like the worst that sounds like a john blake review um charlie asked brooks uh okay it was a good one i become chloe's boyfriend or shy marries meredith and he's like neither i don't want shy as my stepfather ariana is like giggling with liam and kendall's like i have never seen him fall so fast for anybody wow i wonder if it's because he's on a tv show it's crazy well it also it seems like he falls faster the slower you talk kendall so she goes yeah i mean he's like he's like a la boo boo or something and then we see like liam's face on like a drawn the boo boo thing so then shy is like uh meanwhile shy's like talking he's asked he's looking for a charger and charlie goes oh it's in It's in my shoe in the back, bro.

44:28Ben Mandelker: And Eva's like, Charlie, since when do you jewel? He goes like, oh, no, I don't. It's Ariana's. Yeah, she came over to sesh last night. Yeah, she came over and left the charger at my house. Yeah, Ariana. Putting it out there. Yeah, you know, just late night horny booty call type shit with Ariana leaving her jewel over there. Yeah, pretty much. You know, just trying to bang me. Basically getting a blowjob, if you think about it. Yeah, still doing this shit. He's such a little asshole. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

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46:42And Brooks has headphones. He's like, sometimes I do this thing where I wear headphones because I don't want people to think I'm listening. And then Ava is like, so she just said, hey, can I come over? No one thinks you're listening. No one who sees your face thinks you're listening to anything.

47:02Ben Mandelker: This is an attentive listener right here that we're seeing in front of us. But you see Bricks Mark's face. It's like, yes, this is someone who is taking things in, synthesizing it, and having thoughts about it. yeah uh so they're like wait a minute ariana stayed at your house she was like can i come over and try i was like basically yeah what do you what do you want me to show you the fucking child i can show you the chat i mean i've got the chat what do you need proof jesus so um shy is like i mean i already knew about this but i didn't say anything to anyone because i let ariana's business i left it alone we're learning um so she's saying like well i mean i'm sorry shy is saying you know it's like it's not like she's dating liam i mean they're like they're like not together so i don't know if it's like that big of a deal i mean you know what i'm saying guys like i mean what is even dating in the first place like what does it even exclusive mean look at me i'm getting joked up just talking about it right now yeah well like if we just put aside the obvious fact that she's like trying to me i mean if you want to do that we can do that you guys okay and so rowan's saying yeah i don't think ariana would appreciate that and it's not the first time he's done it he does it over and over again he's a little ass so yeah now they're like wait a minute really and he's ava says so she was trying to fuck and he's like no no i'm just trolling you know that you know you know i'm just trolling now that i've just uh given it to you all to repeat over and over in this episode i'll just say just kidding i'm just trolling that's it um so then producer asks uh ariana like would you hook up with with uh with i'm sorry yeah asked charlie would you hook up with Ariana under the same roof as Liam?

48:40Ben Mandelker: He's like, sure, like, right off. So, um, uh, Ariana, and in the other car though, Ariana has no idea that Charlie's sort of speaking so disrespectfully about her. And she's like, she's like, you know what Liam just told me? And Charlie, Liam goes, guys, uh, Charlie's growing on me. Yeah, it's pretty cool. But you know, that's just what it is. I think it's cause he, he's coming over to my place right now and, uh, hosting. It's just in my blood. So I just have a warmer feeling about people who just come over. now the eta is 6 30 p.m don don don liam asked georgia to pick up some desserts and so she goes to the catskill country store and she's like yeah i don't really like grocery shop but like i love it like there's so much stuff in here like one time i went to a store and they had mac and cheese it was like sick uh one of my favorite things is letting bravo stars loose in a grocery store and she's like looking at things she's like oh my god this is like crazy so you guys have like food here you just sell food like if you're hungry just come in here and buy food and there's such a breadth of selection i don't think that's talked about very much like people don't really give grocery stores credit for all that they sell there's such a breadth of i just don't think that's talked about much you know between the uh between the way como um rearranged um bacon egg and cheese and the breadth of selection in grocery stores there's just so much that she's picking up on that the rest of us are missing yeah like guys have you heard of them grocery stores it's crazy i love what she says like i just don't think that's talked about much like guys we as a generation we need to talk about how wide the selection can be at a grocery store it needs to be discussed they get to the house and liam doesn't have a key so he has to be let in by georgia oh my god georgia being the first one at your house is kind of a terrifying thought and this is the perfect metaphor for georgia too right she leaves late for whatever reason she dawdles her way up there she's on her laptop she's just she's marveling at random roadside attractions and somehow the people who are actually trying to get there on time and be on top of it and cater to a schedule they still somehow wind up there after her like she still somehow gets first place without even trying that's what's right through yeah you know yeah amazing amazing so um the room splits dun dun dun they're assigned this is not a housewives thing where you just get to run around and pick your rooms unfortunately so brooks and gia are sharing shy and charlie are in a bunk bedroom and then there's a room with four bunk beds and it's going to be georgia rowan ava and kendall that's that's too much i think it's a lot well we know when you're young you're young you do crazy things right well that's true yeah we did a lot of floor sleeping and stuff we're like yeah let's get like a airbnb for like a one-bedroom airbnb and we'd all sleep and this is i wasn't even that young i mean jesus we would just all sleep on the floor as one person we get the bag like three people like that three weeks all over the floors yeah it wasn't really that long ago um so uh then amira gets a nice single room and then um liam's saying um he's like wow i'm surprised i didn't get more pushback it's surprising um and then we see how like 20 minutes ago there was all sorts of chaos in the house as like everyone's like i want this room i want that room and charles like there's no way i'm able to be in there and then everyone's complaining and moving everything around and they're all pissed off yeah charles like sharing a fucking bathroom with four girls this shit is a joke i'm not doing this shit you know at least And we'll have to share a bedroom like they do with four people.

52:43So then we go to Brooks and Gia's room. And now it's Brooks, Gia, Ava, and Riley's room. And they're all getting ready, talking about the car ride. And Gia's like, how was your car ride? And Ava tells them, like, oh, yeah, we got some tea. Ariana went to Charlie's house on Friday night. It's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I need more details though

53:11Ben Mandelker: did anyone see my brown jumpsuit yet by the way did you guys talk about that in the van and so Ava's like yeah Charlie said Ariana booty called me and I was like I don't believe that but I'm gonna have to ask her and like that's like crazy but like is it tea if it's like not true and Brooks says like did everyone else miss the part where she said she doesn't want to touch him with a 10 foot pole like hello did you hear that like why does ariana keep catching damn strays from this man but maybe charlie was like making it deeper than it actually was and charlie comes in he's like what what are you guys talking about in here and they say we heard your story he's like i didn't make it that deep like i just made everyone i just made sure that everyone knew it wasn't that deep like that's what i was doing i mean like so she tried to fuck me it's not that deep sleep about that and he was like but you definitely did say she booty called you and he's like i mean i was trolling obviously i say a lot of shit and riley's like but i just think it's crazy that i'm hearing it not from her and charlie's like um i don't think she's gonna go out of her way to tell that i mean you're probably gonna react the way you're reacting you know not that deep she want to fuck me we fucked we didn't fuck i mean what big deal i don't know you guys are crazy trolling yeah but so she just called you to smoke weed it's like yeah i mean we were texting from like like you know like come out and i was like well we're not going out tonight but then maybe we'll go out tomorrow and then i ignored it because i was out and then she was like changed my mind where are you so i was like i'm getting home at that point so i was like i mean basically like i've got a dick come jump on it if that's what you want so bad all right so she did jumped on my dick i mean she's probably pregnant we're having a family it's not a dude not a dude so it was like it's kind of tea so gs says if leah if liam knows then it's fine but i'm sure he wasn't happy about it i mean i know christian would not be happy i'm like is christian happy about anything all he does is christian is not happy about anything ever so it was like i don't think they're like boyfriend and girlfriend though so like whatever and charlie's like yeah i mean you've been with like christian for like how many years right like this is like this is like whatever It was like a set.

55:28Ben Mandelker: We're like, we're doing a sesh. We're doing a sesh. Whatever. Yeah. So they're going on and on and on about this. And Ava's like, well, are they dating? And she says, but they're exclusive. She's like, oh, but like that's the same as boyfriend and girlfriend, right? Yeah. But they're like not getting with anybody else, but they're not girlfriend and boyfriend. I'm sorry. But if you reserve a table, that is your table. Period. Stop labeling things in such a stupid way. I think this is all Love Island bullshit, where there's like five different levels to dating anybody. If you're not dating anybody else, that's it.

56:06You've reserved the table. That's it.

56:08Ben Mandelker: I do think, though, Ariana's showing up at like 1 a.m. It's a little, I don't know. It is a little weird, but she was with friends, which sort of denatures it a little bit. But still, it's like, I don't think, if I had this guy, Charlie, who's always sort of saying inappropriate things and rumors are already starting to swirl. I just don't think I would go over at 1 a.m., especially if I'm like seeing a guy who I'm like really into. So she's more into Charlie, I think. I mean, Charlie's interesting. Liam, Charlie's a bad boy and he's interesting. Yeah, they literally say that to him. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

56:42And Liam's, you know, clearly. Like Charlie wants a storyline for TV to be like funny and then he's going to eventually fuck you over. he wants it in a different way whereas Liam wants to be like prom king and queen so I feel like she knows that she's being used in a way by both guys and she's convincing her to give a fuck what Liam is

57:06Ben Mandelker: thinking she's convincing herself that she really likes Liam because he's good on paper and she's probably had a bad track record with guys aka Hudson and she's trying to do that pivot and we all see it the chemistry is just not there it's just not and so i think that maybe she's doing something maybe she's trying to self-sabotage who knows but um yeah and they what i like is that they're even like assessing it right there right to charlie's face you know because gia's like i mean you know ava says she'd let she does like flirting with charlie and she goes yeah because he's fun and dangerous and like out of a comfort zone he's like the bad guy you know he's like the he's the bad boy they're like yeah you're the bad boy you're the bad boy he's like okay i'll take it yeah um so brooks is like well but in the car you said that she was trying to hook up he's like wait what what did i say what i say that yeah you said she was trying to bang he's like well i mean she comes over drunk at 1 a.m i mean one could objectively say that's giving that right yeah so so so then they're um asking So he's like, I'm not saying that she was trying to fuck me.

58:16That was trolling, but she was clearly trying to fuck me. I mean, what are we? Look at Charlie. So then we find out that Liam has location. And Charlie's like, he already saw. He knows where she was. Location. And Ava's like, no way. So Brooks is like, why does Charlie think that she wants to hook up with him? She literally said she doesn't. But yeah, but like Brooks, it's like the actions are speaking louder than the words, right?

58:44Ben Mandelker: yeah and so uh just like i mean when you say i would never touch this person but like deep down it's like maybe you know what i mean does that make sense and then again this is where they say that um that charlie's like the dangerous the bad boy and that you know she secretly likes it so then um charlie's like all right like you know go get get our girl in here like she's she's gonna be like so mad at me and now this is all gonna disintegrate he's like you guys are turning this into a whole thing after I turned it into a thing. Even though I, like, used hyperbole and, you know, stirred the pot.

59:16Ben Mandelker: Now you guys have stirred the pot. And, like, the pot's swirling. And I don't want it to swirl. Whoa, it's, like, turned into a whole big thing. I don't want anything to do with this. Look, we gotta get her. She can be mad at me. Yeah, so she is like, oh my god, Ariana's my girl, so, like, I don't want her to feel like she's in a conversation where I'm not in the conversation where we're talking about her, but she doesn't, like, know the conversation. we know you're gonna tell her just do it jesus so um charlie's like oh my god you're gonna confront her well i mean i know you're gonna confront her let's just fucking do with that and just just come over just not just make sure you don't phrase it as like well i said she was like trying to come over to fuck me or something like that yeah so ariana that is how you phrased it to multiple people on multiple days but ariana actually comes to the room and everyone's like ah so she goes it's very interesting when I walk in and everybody's like, um, who, like clearly something's about me.

1:00:09Ben Mandelker: So G goes, um, okay, Ariana, I want to tell you that what the conversation just was, because I'm getting a little bit of anxiety about it. And like, I don't want you to be mad at me. Gia, you are the one who you weren't even in the car. Why are you going to be the ones like, oh my God, don't be mad at me. Like you have nothing to do with this. You've inserted yourself into this gossip and now you're acting like it's your responsibility to carry the carry what you've learned onwards it's so important we need to talk about it but like later so now they're gonna put it off so ariana's like oh my god i walk in and they treat me like it's like i'm the police the way everybody's looking at me well you would know you know um so so riley uh riley and brooks and Gia decide they're going to all talk to her together.

1:01:01So then we see a text from Gia to Brooks and Riley being like, oh, we have to tell Ariana what we're talking about. What are we going to do?

1:01:09Ben Mandelker: So they go to a place called Lily's Steak and Cocktails and they go to this table and everything and Liam's like, hey guys, just actor to non-actors. I just want to say thank you all for being here. Let's have a fun weekend. Let's shred hard and let's get back to the city all in one piece. And if you think I was directing this message to you guys. You're incorrect. That was a monologue from Carrera, recently submitted to Sundance. Thank you very much. Guys, just want you to know there's a lot of food on the menu here, but coffee is for closers. Alright, I'm an actor.

1:01:45Ben Mandelker: Hey guys, one last thing to remind you all. Yaren Brigadoon. Thank you. That was just I've just got my sides for an audition for that musical tomorrow all right let's do first impressions we're just gonna go around the room and then you have to like say the person do your first impression of the person but only using one word and so um they start with liam and ava's like okay well my first impression of liam is that like liam you're like super like i don't know like outgoing one word one word just say outgoing and then Ariana tells Gia I feel like you're a real ass bitch one word one word it's all you have to do so the producer asked Charlie what his first impression of Kendall was he's like I mean god just the thought of her cracks me up I don't even know she's in the room what is it's like you know when like something electronic turns on outside and you just hear the buzz like coming through your walls and you're like oh shut up It's like that, but it's like you can't even be mad because you don't even know what it is.

1:02:57What is it?

1:03:00Ben Mandelker: They are so mean to Kendall. I mean, she seems like just a sweet, lovely girl. And the fact that the show actively trolls their own casting choice is so funny to me. But actually, what was so amusing was that later on in this episode, it winds up actually being a functional part of the plot. Like that Kendall is so forgettable. People forget that she's literally there. so then later on momentarily charlie's gonna talk a whole bunch of shit right in front of her not even paying attention that she's sitting behind him and it's clearly gonna lead to drama but man like a few episodes ago when they said kendall's just like a shadow just like she's just sort of there and then they showed her as a shadow person it's so rude he's like god brooks has more energy in his voice than kendall does jesus yeah i mean poor candle she probably was supposed to be there with with jackson all that time and then spike lee was probably like jackson you will not be on this show i am an acclaimed filmmaker i want an oscar you're not being on the stupid reality show get your butt over here and work at a jamba juice or something but i'm not allowed it's like i googled the cast no no sir um so brooks is like this sparkling water is like the most sparkly sparkly I've ever had.

1:04:20Ben Mandelker: So, Georgia is like, wait, what are we doing? What's the, what's the task? Like your first impression, do shy. She goes, okay, shy. Clown. And he's like, what? She goes, yeah, because the first time I met you, you did a headstand.

1:04:37Ben Mandelker: As all clowns do. so what is it supposed to be a compliment it's not even a compliment okay but i meant a gesture i meant a gesture though he's like what is that oh like in a court like a queen's court like a gesture he's some just just that's not a compliment either like if you're not funny they cut your heart off like none of these are a compliment i love that he's actually somehow more offended by jester i think clown would be worse he's like jester i don't even know you talk about the guy from amen and she's like no jester and she's cracking up okay so um now ariana and gia are having their conversation at the table she is like yeah like charlie said you went to his house to smoke and he said she was with the two friends and then this is where i felt weird this is where i felt weird.

1:05:33And Brooks and Riley are like, why are they having this conversation without us? Now we're being left out of the conversation. Now we're going to look stupid.

1:05:39Ben Mandelker: Yeah, and you know what? They should be mad because they all agreed they'd tell her together. And on top of that, they were the ones who heard it firsthand. And Gia, she should if she wants, if something's weighing on her, she should just say, listen Ariana, after dinner, they told me something they heard. I know they want to talk to you. So let's like, why don't we switch seats so we can talk about it now? Or something like that. But the fact that she took it and made it her gossip to tell when she heard it secondhand, I thought that was actually fucked up. I don't know why someone didn't just say at this big group dinner, hey, Charlie, remember how you told everybody that Ariana was trying to fuck you Friday night?

1:06:16What's up with that, Ariana? And just embarrassed Charlie. Not that he would be. He's past embarrassment. That would be fun if someone did that, actually. It's weird that they're making it like, oh, we have to talk to her privately aside from everybody. You've already all talked about it, and Charlie's told almost everybody in the cast that she was trying to fuck him, so bring it up.

1:06:37Ben Mandelker: They should just put, like, Tamara in there and dress her Gen Z. She could just, like, have her daughter's wig on. Not that her daughter wears a wig, but she just wears a wig that looks like her daughter. It's like, hey, guys, I'm Gen Z. What's going on? I love getting thrift store furniture and stuff. I'm just your cousin. You guys see those grocery stores? They got a breadth of selection. Anyway, hey, Charlie. So you guys had a Sasha had a booty car with Ariana You factored that he told everyone right Okay guys take a minute Did you go to Bachelorette? Yes or no Bachelorette

1:07:14Ben Mandelker: Facts Cinema right So And Gia also is not telling it properly Cause she's like yeah Riley was really Upset that you didn't tell her That you went to Charlie's house And she's like well I didn't tell any of you why the fuck would I report to you guys that I went to smoke a joint? Jesus Christ, mom and dad. She was a good response. She's like, like, what the hell? Yeah. So she's like, yeah. So everyone, correct. I went over to Charlie's house to smoke a joint. Congratulations. I'm sure we've all found out. And George is like, what? Like, oh my God. She like pretends to flip a table. And so, so Brooks is like, well, Ariana, why did you just like save that out of nowhere?

1:07:57Ben Mandelker: She's like, because you all were like kumbaya-ing about it in Gia's room, and if you had something to say about it, like, then just say it to me. Why is everyone so concerned with like, there's plenty of people who smoke a joint with Charlie all the time. And this is so annoying because the way that Gia's told her has made her mad at her friends instead of being mad at the fact that Charlie is telling everybody that she was trying to fuck him. And it's so obnoxious. So now she's mad at the wrong people. and so Ava's like well we were we were talking but like we we wanted the tea but like we were gonna tell you and Charlie's like yeah and I was the one who was like oh get Ariana over here I mean she's probably like horny as hell she probably wants a piece of me so like get her over here I think that like when we all heard that you went to Charlie's late night we're all like oh my god that's like such tea like it really is such tea you know and Brooks is like the bottom line is charlie said that you want to hook up with him and like you went over to his apartment and ever to booty call him and that's like well i'm sitting like on the way i'm here ariana's like okay you know what if i want to do anything with charlie i could do it at any point him's just sitting there like uh charlie charlie says something like facts something like or tea or something yeah but i'm just saying that's what was said and like you know but she said she wouldn't touch charlie with a 10-foot pole she's like and i stand on that yeah say you know whatever charlie and say whatever you want but i haven't touched you at all and he's like yeah if i want to pick ariana there's no one that i would not do it for at this table i would do it if i wanted to so what about that so liam's like bro i think she's made it clear to you i'm into her she's into me so like if the line gets crossed like I'm gonna have a fucking problem and you haven't crossed the line yet but all I'm saying is give me the respect as someone who arranged a nice weekend in Wyndham, New York, bro.

1:10:00Ben Mandelker: And so I deserve a little respect. I mean do you know the person who came up with the theme? I do. I do. Listen, I'm under a lot of stress, okay? The deadline for Sundance is on Monday. south by the day after that can you don't even want to know when that deadline is it's just a lot okay just give me some respect bro burbank gay and lesbian film festival at the burbank mall the thing it's a thing i'm worried about so whatever bro do not cross the line and charlie's like whoa god's honest truth like oh i don't know you so like if i want to fuck ariana you wouldn't be stopping me and that's honest truth like i don't even know you well enough to care yeah but you know what if you wanted to and you had that confidence you would have had it by now and you haven't had it so sorry whammy bro you got a whammy bro he's like no we've not had sex that's the bottom line like i didn't try to bring it up today like i'm not even trying to make ariana like slut shamed like you guys are like slut shaming ariana like what the hell like what was she gonna be slut shamed for smoking a joint at my house and like trying to fuck me which she didn't even do you know it's not it's not even that deep it's not as deep as it was like if i had fucked which she was begging me to do, which I didn't say, and I don't mean.

1:11:15Ben Mandelker: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, bro. Okay, what I'm trying to say is, as the actor, director, editor, producer, some call that a predator of Carrera, I don't want to hear it. I get you guys are friends. You rolled her a joint. You probably popped in DVD of Carrera. I'm like, let's check out this short film. I get it. I heard that a lot from people, but show some respect, bro. and Charlie's like, well, then no one should be talking about it then. And he's like, yeah, but it came up. So I'm just telling you where I'm at, bro. And I'll tell you where I'm at right now. Wyndham, New York. You're welcome, guys.

1:11:50Ben Mandelker: We're all at Wyndham. So wait, are you guys dating? Like, what are you guys doing? Have you ever been to a grocery store? And Ariana says no. And so they're asking, are they exclusive? And Liam's like, I'll let you answer that. Because, I mean, we did have the conversation, right, Ariana? That conversation where I said we're exclusively dating and you're my girlfriend. Right. So go ahead and tell them. She's like, well, yeah, but we're not dating. Like, I'm not your girlfriend. No, no, no, you're not my girlfriend. It's just you can't see anybody but me, clearly. We're just exclusive. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

1:12:19I've got an alert. I've got an alert. Ariana is here. She's right here right now. Just saw it on my location. So everybody knows we're together.

1:12:29Ben Mandelker: Oh, yeah. Oh, sweet. Sorry, Carrera was just accepted into IMDb. So it's pretty cool. so Ava is talking to Liam she goes wait I thought you guys are exclusive now and Liam's like yeah that was part of the conversation we're exclusive and Ava's like um I would say poor Liam but like we told Kendall to warn him and Kendall you're to blame we told you and then we see that like they told Kendall tell Liam to cool his jets and Kendall tells us the reason I didn't tell Liam is because I generally didn't feel like anything was happening between ariana and charlie and i didn't want to start drama where there was no drama and let me just like suss this out first before we take that step that's why i came on the trip oh sure you came on the trip to survey the landscape to make sure uh there would be no issues with charlie and ariana that's solely why you came on the cast trip got it candle you're already bad enough on this show you seem very nice but like you're already like g is already calling you the worst cast member in front of your face on national tv they literally pulls you for a scene to start mess it was very clear what was going on and you couldn't even take the mess to the other person like what kind of audition is this you're failing you're failing you were supposed to tell liam that ariana and charlie have a vibe going on she gave up her seat you didn't do it so Ariana's like if I'm making out with or going on dates or doing something with somebody else I'm not touching anybody else everyone and then Amira's like but as a group we have to respect what's happening here even if there's like no label yet it's just like let's let it be it's like a relationship that's blooming come on okay okay alright so no more slut shaming let's just all go home stop slut shaming Ariana for wanting to be a slut for one night god forbid it.

1:14:26Liam's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, that is really close to the line, all right? Oh, oh, what am I close to the line? If I cross it, tell me. I don't think I'm going to do anything about it. What are you, the line setter? When do you start set lines? It's close to it. It's close to the line.

1:14:42Ben Mandelker: He's like, so what? Then fucking do something about it, bro. I'll say whatever I want. And Liam's like, well, I don't want to do anything about it, okay? I'm a volunteer firefighter. You better watch out because if it gets hot in here. I know how to lower the temp, if you know what I mean. I'm trying to be a man and say, like, please stop talking about it. Like, don't say it. Don't say that shit about the girl I'm interested in. He's like, I'll say whatever I want. I don't care about you or who you're interested in. That doesn't determine how I live my life. I'm not telling, you know, whatever.

1:15:11Like, I don't give a fuck what you think. He's like, oh yeah, well, you're not pursuing her. So drop it.

1:15:18Ben Mandelker: And Charlie goes, and by the way, this applies to every single person at this table. I give a fuck about what you say unless you ask me questions about bitcoin in which case i care deeply but other than that i don't care what you say yeah so um amira's like well charlie is a friend group we have to respect that there's a blossoming relationship here there's a there's a beautiful woman sitting across from you telling you what she's feeling right now that woman is me and then she tilted her head back and laughed why are you talking about yourself like you're in a fucking story jesus okay so me me me saying enough slut shaming obviously like get up every on his back that's what i mean you know like jesus yeah but you're also kind of calling her a slut you know so he's like no it's implies that you are giving her unnecessary flack that's what the implication is actually you're giving her so much flack just because i said that she wanted to bone me and she came over late at night like a slut to do that to me and now you're calling her a slut you guys are crazy and ariana's like well because i knew how you meant it and it's just a crazy ass comment and leon's like whoa whoa whoa can i ask you a question charlie actor to non-actor are you a friend he's like yeah well if you respect her as a friend then you respect the fact that like you don't want to make her look bad okay so you're making her look bad by bringing up bring it up and saying that stuff ha gotcha oh fuck's sake let's just go up and meet guests Charlie is so over Liam.

1:16:47Ben Mandelker: He's like, who is this dweeb? So they get into their cars and Brooks is like, so Charlie, you didn't say that you said that she wants to fuck you. He's like, come on, bro. I'm like trying to like, I'm just trying to like lightly say it. That's it. What does that mean? You can't just lightly say that. And then Mira's like, yeah, you guys are both gaslighting. He's like, I'm not gaslighting. You know, you know what the truth here is and everybody with half a brain fucking knows it. so um uh charlie's like oh whatever like you know i'm like i'm not i'm not guessing at anybody she's like no you are you're but you're not explicitly saying it and he's like but why would i especially with bro there puffing out his little chest and mirror's like okay who cares charlie he's like i don't give a fuck what he thinks i don't i'll fuck his girlfriend if i was girl if i want to and george is like um just because you can doesn't mean that you should meanwhile kendall is right behind charlie is like fuck that guy i'll fuck every any girl he touches who the cares about the stupid little piece of shit and kendall's just like watching and absorbing the shadow will have its revenge about that watching i don't know about the absorbing she's like why would he say this in front of me who cares he just said it to his face like no one cares kendall ooh kendall's got the dirt but charlie will ariana if first of all this will i'll her if i want to then you'll her if she wants to you yeah thank you you're only such a little asshole.

1:18:13So Charlie's like, yeah, so you think I'm going to let a new man come tell me who I can and can't fuck? You guys are twisted. And so Mira's like, oh God, this is just going on and on. You know? So he's like, there's a line in the sand. And that's dust to me. And I'll blow it away if I want to. Here's what I say to your line in the sand.

1:18:34Ben Mandelker: I, by the way, I just want to emphasize that when I was watching this, I was rolling with laughter because it was so ridiculous. First of all, he's being so silly. second of all i did sort of enjoy him being like what the is wrong with you guys i'll say whatever i want like i did sort of enjoy that um but also the way he puffs himself up and he's like such a tough guy because this is like basically a cast of like nice kids and he's like he's like the like he is the bad boy or whatever but if he was around people who would who like were a lot tougher than this group he would be silent silent it's just so funny to me to see him acting like he's this big tough guy and you're like you're fucking charlie who's like asking your dad for fifteen hundred dollars to like you know pay for your bar tab from last night you're really not that tough yeah so the next day everybody's waking up and brooks listen if there ever needs to be a brown suit that's lost it's whatever the fuck he's sleeping in what is this it was like a minimalist rudolph the reindeer costume it was like a 1920s swimming outfit it was so weird it was like just a bodysuit i thought well at least listen there's confidence there so that's good but he's giving everyone a brooks mark sock watch out cat skill witch there's a new mystical creature in town yeah um and then we see flashbacks to their um their shady gifts thing and we see that uh rowan her gift um she was like um well i just want to say uh brooks i know that gia is your mouthpiece but i thought you could try this instead and she gives brooks a ball gag and then um and then ariana's like what is that what's that for and riley's like it's a gag she's like but why do you why do you want to she was confused um never saw full picture is what i'm trying to say yeah um charlie got rowan a sweatshirt that says my mom's the hot one ron's like well does that be the college because of it i'll take it so now they're getting ready for the day and people are gossiping because kendall uh well ron is telling kendall that Liam and Ariana were up till 6.30 a.m.

1:20:55And she's like, yeah, the wells are paper thin. And listening to her, listening to them talk, I mean, it didn't sound like they were doing anything else, but oh, God, just talking 6.30 in the morning, go to bed.

1:21:07Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And Brooks is asking Liam how he's feeling. And Liam's like, dude, that was weird last night. I felt like I stood my ground. I just want to, like, fucking respect where respect is deserved because all I've come in here has been, like, Like, I've just been, like, respectful since I've been here. And, like, he tells us, I don't want to fight, Charlie. Watch out for me, Liam. I'm a big fighter. By any means, I don't want to fight. But, like, I don't think violence is good. But you fuck with the wrong people, and you insult the wrong people, and you treat women poorly. Someone has to stand up to this fucking guy.

1:21:41Ben Mandelker: Okay? And I'll tell you who it will be. The SAG-AFTRA Alliance. Watch out!

1:21:49yeah when i went to bed i kind of expected her to come with me i mean and she eventually came in at like 5 a.m and i was like yo we gotta talk like i can't go to sleep like this and so i literally got two hours of sleep last night and she goes yeah uh i slept two hours and then we see flashbacks from the night before and liam's telling us that he was lying in bed he was trying but all he could hear was Ariana laughing downstairs with Charlie. And he's like, yeah, I'm not the one making her laugh. That pisses me off. Then get out of bed and go hang out with everybody. Like you can't come into a new friend group.

1:22:25She was already friends with Charlie. You can't just like come into a new friend group and then be like, we're dating. I have your location and you can't hang out now because Charlie's down there till six in the morning. This is where I was getting like kind of creep vibes.

1:22:38Ben Mandelker: This is just way too much. It's totally unreasonable. and also like you're an actor play the role of someone who's fun and so uh he's like yeah so ariana's like well so then i came upstairs and leem was awake and so and said like he wanted to have a conversation and so i was like of course like what do you want to talk about and then it's like starts out about like maybe like me not having his back the way like i should have and then like it escalated to like i love you and i just don't fucking understand like what you're doing with charlie he said i love you i love you oh no i mean it's been five minutes and you met her on a tv show that she was already the star of liam he's so transparent i think and um she's like yeah i don't know how to feel but like i just like i heard i loved you and i just like stared at the wall for another hour so but leah here's the thing that toxic that i don't like that liam did sorry to interrupt it just it dawned on me and how i was it i was going yeah yeah like this whole thing's happening with charlie ariana is like no big deal guys like i really don't care like i'm not concerned with this guy whatever liam jumps in like i'm the white knight i'm just gonna be here and i'm gonna be like bro stay away and you know and he's like he does this whole thing of like you're about to cross the line watch out for the line the line's getting a little closer it's a little closer you're gonna close the line and then he's annoyed because like later on it's like i I just stood up for you at dinner.

1:24:05Ben Mandelker: I did this whole thing. And now, like, you're just like chummy with this guy. This guy who was so disrespectful, who I stood up for you with. And the thing is that, like, she didn't ask you to stand up for her. Like, she was fine. She was capable. And, like, that's the thing with, like, Liam was like, ah, this is what they do in the movies. So I'm going to do it. And it's, like, not working out because life is not like the movies. And I don't think he's able to really handle that. yeah um i don't know about this one so that's how that ends so will this fake relationship make it any further oh i don't know will liam's fake relationship with ariana make it or will ariana and charlie's fake fucking thing make it i don't really know but they're they're gonna push both of them let's see well what will last longer liam and ariana or the terry light on brooks resort where we'll have to see yeah well thank you everyone for being here um be sure to keep an eye on and ear out for our uh tour dates and cities it's gonna be so fun we're so excited and go check out um go check out what's your order on youtube it's just the watch crappens youtube and of course our patreon all those good things and we're gonna catch you tomorrow for the real Housewives of Orange County.

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