#3517 RHOC S20E08 Part One: Same Old Songria

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1:30Ben Mandelker: who cares what happens when there's so much that happens

1:43Ben Mandelker: hello and welcome to watch what crappens a podcast about all that crap on bravo we just love to watch i'm ben mandelker and joining me is the beautiful and handsome ronnie carham how are you hi what's up with you baby not much we guys uh everyone i know people say that orange county is not having the most exciting season but we are here to make this more exciting for you all because we have we have as promised news about our upcoming tour okay we're we're we have some news about the cities and the dates we do not have a uh tickets on sale um date just yet but since it's going to be coming up relatively soon we want you all to start reserving some time in your calendar to come see us and we will come see you so without any further ado save the date we're like not even gonna we're just gonna dive right into this okay um so here is our um our calendar for our upcoming tour, which we're calling the In The Mix Tour.

2:49Ben Mandelker: In The Mix. Oh, number one, In The Mix. In The Mix. Staying downstairs this time. I'm going to be in The Mix. We're going to be in The Mix. This tour is in The Mix, guys. It's going to start in October, and it's going to culminate in February in New York City at the Golden Crappies, which will also, by the way, we will be celebrating our 15-year anniversary in early 2027. So this is a very special tour. We are starting October 3rd, kansas city october 4th chicago october 17th minneapolis october 18th detroit november 5th philadelphia november 7th dc november 12th dallas november 13th austin november 15th houston december 8th uh nashville december 9th clearwater florida december 10th fort lauderdale florida january 9th san francisco january 23rd salt lake city the 24 january 24th denver colorado january 27th charleston charleston south carolina january 28th atlanta georgia february 4th seattle february 5th vancouver february 7th portland february 20th toronto the 21st february 21st boston and on thursday february 25th we return to new york city for the golden crappies so be there or be square so excited to go back to some cities we haven't been to in a little bit and revisit those uh where we've made friends with all of y 'all on the road all this time so that is the sketch how excited are you ronnie i'm excited yeah it's a lot of a lot of shows i know it's a lot as reading it i was like i kept on lilting my voice up like and the grand finale i was like no we got more it's so exciting it like you hadn't seen it before which i really loved like whoa charleston i was i was acting like that but i kind of was there's something about like reading it out loud where you sort of realize the like wow we're going back to charleston that's crazy like you know like you know we knew now we know yeah um you're right i mean hearing you read it out loud i'm i definitely thought about halfway through that oh shit shit we agreed all this i'm i'm tired i'm i know first next every year we're like next year we're just gonna do 12 cities now here we are 21 21 cities or so again it's gonna be so much fun we love it and you know we're as disastrous as possible so we're making sure to do a lot of this in the winter so you know we you know how we roll we're like we like to travel during bomb cyclones so um we do and we love cuddling up in the theater with people when it's freezing outside i mean there is something so it's not our first time that we've done that and we always have such a good time just kind of cuddling and bitching about stuff uh but my day is oh good i was gonna say my hot take is i think actually now nowadays summer travel is riskier than winter travel with the the the increase of severe thunderstorms um i think there's more cancellations and delays in the summer now that's my hot take everyone so well there's a lot of delays period now because the way everything is being run is absolutely off the rails so yeah between land and the plane i'll be like oh just sit there for a couple of hours.

6:26We're just waiting. We don't have any employees to come to the gate because we fired everybody. So hold on. Don't worry. The guy who's delivering the donuts will be coming to the gate very soon once he's done unloading all of the luggage and letting the dogs out to pee that have been in the cargo

6:44Ben Mandelker: hold and cleaning the commissary. I just can't believe that the combination of climate change and And the guy from the real world running our FAA has led to all this travel chaos. It's crazy. It turns out you eat an airplane now, you get Ebola. You can't even have a decent airplane salad anymore. So, yeah, the world's falling apart, but so are we. And we'll all be together. So join us for that. Today is Real Housewives of Orange County. If you want this on video, it's on Patreon. Go there and get it. So let's get into it. Real Housewives of Owens County. Wow, this show. Okay, you know how it's been hot.

7:29It's the end of summer. Everywhere is probably hot. And I'm in L.A. right now. It's almost 100 degrees. And everywhere you go, people are like, pretty hot out there, huh? God, I can't stand this heat. God, I hate this heat. That's so hot. I'm one of those people. But I also think to myself, we know it's coming every fucking year. We know why are we sitting here complaining about this? We know it's going to be a disaster. We know we all hate it. And we're just sitting here as it happens. Basically, I was thinking of this because it's the same same feeling I have when I watch Gina and Emily. It's like, what are these fucking why?

8:05Why are these fucking losers on this show? I think you knew this was coming. It's just it's it's butt swamp. It's heat swamp in your butt. And, you know, it's coming. and here they are being dicks for another hour of my life yeah it's just bravo

8:28Ben Mandelker: bravo has really been pushing their luck with these two over the years they're like well let's do one more season with them one more well congratulations now you made it to your landmark season 20 years celebrating 20 years of housewives and you want this season to be really as great as possible and you pushed your luck too far and now guess what you busted you busted with gina and emily arguably your most valuable season of all time so i hope you're happy we are taking back your bets yeah sorry the house always wins but unfortunately it seems like the casita won this time the casita always wins i have never been in a casita they saw that coming up next week and i died laughing yeah girl yeah girl we saw the dough don't don't be a can you casita denialists okay yeah you lived in one that was your thing um that was your thing with the fireplace in the middle of the room for no reason do you remember that was wait that was that was not this that was not the casita that was the pre-casita oh it was pre-casita yeah that was the more of the marshals the more her leg house that she had with her ex well i used to like i think that fireplace was once against the wall but then it saw how gina dressed every day and was just trying to get to her and ended up just trying to stop her from going out into the world i'm just trying to start her start her outfits on fire so she would have to change and just kind of got stuck there in the middle i hated her original house like i just seemed to remember there was like yeah there was that like fireplace right in the middle and then like the living room was like weirdly shaped wasn't like just strange angles it was like not like a i don't know i just remember nothing made sense about it and it just drove me it was bizarre it was bizarre yeah and the fireplace was also triangular or something or like diamond shaped yeah everything was just it was a nightmare and then she got the trauma the gina trauma sticks with me what is it nine years and i'm still like why why and then she seems like she's fine and nice but she's not fine and nice and that's what It makes me crazy.

10:37Like, I fall for it every time, and then she just does some mean shit just to do some, just to say she can do something, which I know isn't that rare in the Housewives world, you know? But she just has no class about it or any humor or grace or charisma. It's like both of them, Emily and Gina, like this one, they spend the whole time like, Oh, my God, how are we even supposed to hang out with this guy when he cheated on his girl? Oh, okay. Well, then don't go to his house. Isn't there a rule like you don't go to someone's house and treat them like shit? That's a big thing on Housewives. It's just general manners.

11:16You know what I mean? I'm not sticking up for the guys. Just get some class. And you're sitting there on their furniture with your heels all over it. It's classless.

11:25Ben Mandelker: Yes. This is a new tier of being angry at Emily and Gina is that now they're classless, which says a lot if we're talking about Orange County. i mean tamra's on this cast and we're calling out these two for being classless i think for me it's more just like i i see with the two of them that they understand the assignment that they just can't execute it i see them trying every season i do applaud them they they do try to stir the pot they ask questions they they try to get things going and moving but there's just not that other side that makes it compelling it's like they are they're they're not agitators in a way that's like super amusing i'm trying to think of a good example of an agitator you know you know it's like i think this is a this is i'm sorry this is the first person that jumped into my head it's probably not the best example but i think of whitney rose who also is an agitator and and she's so blatant about it but i think she kind of is more successful than these two because she's so ridiculous there's something kind of campy and silly and stupid about whitney rose and she's also like but wait a second weren't you saying that they cheated huh i don't know and you're like oh my god it's just so on the nose but i i can't describe what it is i almost wonder if there's something more shameless about her the way she does it versus emily and gina i i don't know i have to i have to i have to crack this hot take a little bit like if you're If you're thinking of Whitney, if you're going to describe Whitney to someone, you're like, she's one of the biggest ding-dongs on the show, which I love a ding-dong character.

13:02I think they're the funniest, you know. I'm no huge fan of Whitney Rose, but I see what she brings to the show. I mean, she's funny in that way. Her outfits are, like, stupid and funny. She's always starting fights that are so ridiculous you never believe her in the beginning. Like, she literally in her first season had to stop and be like, can we do that again? Which was hilarious. is trying to start a fight i mean there's character things about her that are just funny she's a funny character and these two just they just don't have it i mean maybe a better maybe a better example would be like an adriana demora you know you know she's going to you know

13:40Ben Mandelker: she's going to start the pot she knows she's gonna do something but she does it in a way that's like campy and entertaining or giselle bryant you know she's always gonna like bring something up she tells Angel Massey like what was going on with your photo and then that becomes a thing I don't know like they're able to like move story along in a way that's like funny and entertaining and you sort of are like secretly looking forward to oh no someone gave Giselle some information this is not gonna go well it's like but with Emily and Gina and I would even extend this to someone like an Aaron on New York City like they all understand what they have to do and I appreciate that but somehow the execution just does not work for me yeah uh so here we are with gina and emily it's a gina and emily show i'm glad we i'm really glad we covered this topic because i feel like we really have not talked about this before yeah we really have never talked about how obnoxious these two are on this show um but you know you never know when casting just happens to think well i'm gonna turn on this random podcast today i know what they what they have we're using you know Well, maybe someday we'll get through.

14:45Maybe. All right. So we're at a place called We Vitalize. Yeah. And it says, they have a neon sign that says, health is wealth.

14:57Ben Mandelker: We Vitalize. Is that a pun? We Vitalize. Yeah, health. Is that health is wealth outside?

15:11Ben Mandelker: We Vitalize. um so here's what i love they all we have tamra vicky and emily gathering at we vitalize um to get hydrated after several days of um being in vegas and tamra comes in with raising canes salty ass fried chicken for them to eat while they're hydrating i was like okay that seems like it's an affront to the we vitalize community, but that's fine. Yeah, you're getting we vitalized while you're shoving down sodium. We vitalized.

15:54So Emily's like, I love chicken. Is this a Diet Coke? I just love fried chicken. And Vicky comes in. She's like, what is this for the South? What is it? it's like fried chicken is that for the south yes vicky

16:12Ben Mandelker: it's no it's it's from northern sweden um it's literal samaras like what do you think it's from can i tell you something uh two things first of all this will be a three-hour recap because i keep on doing this to you but second of all last night some friends came over and they brought over popeyes and i had a popeyes chicken sandwich for the first time in years, you know, with like the fried chicken with like the pickle and like the sort of, it wasn't mayo. It's like, I don't, the special sauce. When I tell you. Where was it from? Popeyes. Oh, okay. I've always liked Popeyes, but I just haven't had it in forever.

16:50Ben Mandelker: I try to limit my fried chicken because it's so good. And I know it's like my cholesterol, but I'll tell you that fried chicken sandwich was so transporting. It was so, I felt like I was in, we vitalize myself. But it was a dream. And I just need to say, like, thank God for Popeyes. I just want to say, Popeyes, you're doing great, great, great work. I feel like I sort of got disconnected from you for a little bit. And I'm so happy you're back in my life. And they're not even a sponsor. I just felt like announcing, telling people that this is something more entertaining than Orange County. That happened last night.

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19:51So Vicki's like, oh wow, this is for the South, right? Fried chicken. I kind of feel like Brooks would eat this, like Mississippi style. What is Mississippi style? Without teeth? You got him the teeth, Vicky. Vicky's really just bringing up all of the past failed relationships lately. And I'm wondering, I was wondering, like, are things just not going well with Mike? But then we see in the previews that things are, in fact, not going well with Mike, which I don't know that anybody's really surprised at. I think we knew that when Mike was like, yeah, if you're a good girl, I'll give you this ring.

20:24I'm going to keep it in the safe till you're a good girl.

20:28Ben Mandelker: yeah um it's strange because she's usually pretty good about picking out men um so they are they're there and they all falter even a broken clock is right twice a day or in this case wrong um literally almost the entire day so they are uh getting revitalized and um emily's like i don't know what's harder being in vegas with you ladies or being at home with my children uh just uh just just earmark that for your future therapy bills for them um so then tamra tamra's like being hungry your children's harder bitch it's harder being harder than your children am i right it's all exhausting i mean the minute i get home he's like i've been with them for four days straight here they are well yeah i would too stuck with them kids for four days like here take these fucking kids i'm going to temple or whatever like i don't know we'll go anywhere the hell out of here it's literally gonna go to temple university he's like i'm gonna fly to philadelphia just to get away from here so emily is like yeah there's no how was vegas was it fun did you have a good time it's like transactional it's like tuck and roll it's like he's already driving down the street and again i'm like i i i get it personally.

21:52Ben Mandelker: Yeah, me too. Like, bye. Oh, now, you just got a break. You got to go to Vegas with your friends for four days. Well, I'm stuck with these monsters alone, and now you want me to, like, sit here and put a smile on my face and ask you how great it was and then listen to you go on about it? No. If anyone gets to bitch, it's the person that got stuck with them kids. Okay? I agree. You should have said, how did it go with the kids? You want to complain about it for three hours and drink Diet Cokes until your head pops off? Great. I'm here for you. Yeah. Yeah. I sort of get it. So Vicky's like, not to talk about me for a second, but like my spike protein is at 2 ,800.

22:36Ben Mandelker: It's over 2 ,800. We should be between zero and 0.4. Okay. I don't even know what spike protein is. And Vicky's like, Google it. It's not good. Yeah, I don't have my phone. I don't want that on my album. girl can you just tell me what it is spike protein can persist in the brain's protective layers contributing to long-lasting neurological symptoms so now when i tell you i can't remember carmilla's name i can't remember it the spike protein maybe it's because vicky got hit by that football all those years ago that's literally like it was spiked into her head that's how she got her spike protein um now speaking of which speaking of camilla um we go to the oppenheim group and And Carmela is, she's at a table and Heather walks in.

23:22Ben Mandelker: Heather, I'm sorry, everyone. Every time Heather's on screen, I just laugh. She does nothing and I just laugh because I feel like she comes in with this idea of what her scene is going to be like. And it just like her little plans just crack me up. She's like, in this scene, I'm going to walk in and be totally cool. I'm going to hang out with Camilla in one of those cool desks. That's like a wing from an airplane. I love it here. I don't know. And her eyes, she always does a thing where her eyes are both squinty and wide-eyed at the same time. Like, that's her talent. But it's out of control now.

23:54They're so wide. She's like, hello, Oppenheim group. How lovely. I'm television's Heather Dubrow. I can't wait to see what non-set homes you have.

24:07Ben Mandelker: Are you my new buddy, Carmella? So Heather's, like, saying. The most shocking place for Carmella to be working. in all of California is the Oppenheim Group. Wow, can't believe it. A gorgeous woman on reality TV. What? Oh, wow, look at you just tagging along on Selling the OC. Some of us have been tagging along on the original show, Million Dollar Listing Los Angeles. But that's okay. You've got to start somewhere. Am I right?

24:44So, you saw the place that I texted you and Max sent me. Do you think that the... Do you call that South County? Not that this is a test. Don't fuck it up. Well, actually, that's kind of North County. Oh, but it's south from here. Okay, well, hold on a second. I'm just taking this pen and I'm writing down in my pocketbook. Bing! Bing!

25:06Ben Mandelker: okay if you ever say that someplace south of us is north of us it will cost you a lot

25:16so we see the house it's a two bed two bath in la jolla and um gorgeous gorgeous wait wait

25:25Ben Mandelker: wait way too nice for someone who's like just a recent college graduate i'm sorry you know you do not need to be you do not need to be paying for your kids apartment at this place at this point i understand if you want to pay for them to go to school fine but like now they're an adult and they're out in the world they can get a dingy studio apartment like the rest of us did when they were 22 i don't feel like that's a part of you know growing into a good person is yeah living like other people live at least for a minute you know one minute for one minute when like i think you have to i i think you have to like live in a studio apartment at one point in your life and understand like understand the madness of the studio apartment you have to understand what that's like you have to understand a futon life yes um so she's like okay well i know that rentals are, you know, below your pay grade, but I wanted to find her something where she'll be happy.

26:27So will you slum it for me? Yes or no? Do not make me write ding down again. Do not make me do it.

26:35Ben Mandelker: And what is your pay grade anyway? Is it like$7 an hour to find this? Just let me know. I'll have Alfredo write you a check. Business Alfredo, that is. So Carmela's like, yeah, Well, the ones that she sent me in La Hoya, like it's really different to get in and out of. So if she has a four o 'clock class, she's going to take 40 minutes to get to school. I'm not a Carmela hater. I would appreciate something. Carmela's not really a big character either. She's just another lady with kind of low energy. I'm not really sure what they're doing over there. We're like on episode eight or nine at this point, which is crazy.

27:13Ben Mandelker: and i'm i'm i am i flagged it a few episodes ago i was like i think that carmella is a one and done she's just not doing it although you know this show i mean we got emily and gina so when i say one and done i may be talking about decade right but um they're like hmm she's she's not very interesting and hasn't contributed much the show let's put her on for 10 years but seriously i mean i think she seems perfectly nice fine you know i mean i like her okay i just wow she's really she's really low energy and she looks to me she still just looks like sheena and does not even in a different font like literally sheena and she even poses like sheena when she took a picture today with her kids she even turned to the side and gave sheena's good side yeah i i agree i i think carmella's likable i i think she has like a good q rating um but like she's just i i don't think that she's i've yet to find her to be incredibly interesting i think that's my issue yeah um so she's gonna show her a place in bankers hill and there's coffee shops i mean it's a vibe and so heather's like well she's a realist agent in this exact area plus her kids are already similarly the age to my kids seems like a no-brainer hmm we'll see if any wackiness ensues with this one i don't understand what the kids being at the same age has anything what is she even trying to say here she's saying like because our kids are the same age she's gonna be an even better real estate agent for me i guess maybe she's saying that she knows my my needs i don't know she's just i don't really know that's for a friend well we have kids the same age so she'll know what kind of apartment my daughter would like i mean i don't i don't really know we are so similar carmella where is your drake you have a drake next door as well no oh that is that just me who lives next door to drake oh my apologies you know it's funny the other day i was asking drake do you know any um neighborhoods with good neighbors and he's like i don't know but if you tell me that if you find one tell me i didn't realize how rude that was until i got home Then I called the HOA Drake's got a little notice About his trash cans being out a day later Let's just say that

29:41Drake She's like get this woman out of my She's on his lawn everyday Well just happened to be walking by Hello Drake

29:49Ben Mandelker: Drake would you like to see my hotline bling Drake No They put up the ages of the kids I don't know why, but it really jumbled my head. Because she's like, our kids are similar in age. So it says Heather's kids, 15, 19, 22, 22. Carmella's kids, 14, 15, 17, 17. Literally not. Like there was only one child that was the appropriate age range. There was like a 14 and a 15. And then the difference between 15 and 19 is major. One's in college and one's a freshman in high school. They're not hanging out. And then 22 and 17. two are college graduates and two just got their driver's license there's nothing whatever play date she's ready to set up it's it's not it's not working in my in my brain yeah so carmella says oh you know it's a nice option everything i can do to get your baby home is going to be great what's going on the friend front let's talk about that well i was very upset with emily i did not like all of these you know character assassination vibes she was giving me i just i said listen just because i'm a character actor does not mean i want character assassination am i right mimi so then we we see a flashback and jen is telling us you know she doesn't like it she doesn't like when you try to tell her how she should operate.

31:13Ben Mandelker: And Heather goes, I don't care. I don't understand what that flashback was, but I love it. I love Heather being like, excuse me, poor people are only allowed to talk until 9.30 p.m. and it is currently 9.47. Like a McDonald's breakfast menu, this option is closed for you after 10.30. Could you have Susan Bender send in a pair of size eights? give emily something to focus on that would be great and we see another flashback of emily being like oh no you're acting like you're the rule follower what's that about and she's like um to someone uh oh gosh you need to talk to me great well does the waiter need to have a talk with me too this it's just going to be a flood of poor people trying to talk to me sounds great i oh you know what's so funny i first of all i also want to point out i'm not gonna lie i did i did watch this episode kind of drunk so i thought that heather said you know popeyes there was a it was a things were things were going down last night i'll tell you what was going on last night i love it i had a i had some friends over a double birthday party it was it was fun so um heather i thought when emily's like you always are acting like you're a real for now you're actually like you're a real follower i thought heather said does someone else have a greater need to talk to me as in like does like surely someone else wants to talk to me i don't not just emily i'm so sick of hearing from emily but it makes more sense if she's like does the waiter need to talk to me look everybody decides that heather's gonna be the one they're gonna go for this year and that's kind of the problem with the show like heather didn't even do anything and listen i'm all for giving heather some shit but she didn't even do anything this is so stupid and so uh heather says this is hurting the group because they should all be adults and now we're gonna go to the canine learning academy where shannon is getting her dog trained by a person and she's wearing a four-leaf clover sweatsuit skin suit four-leaf top of the morning to you production was like we're not gonna sit through another year where shannon yells top of i'm wanting to yell all day long so like well shoot one scene with a dog and she can say it once and never again she will not be in a bar get get out her skin tight timu you know saint patty's day outfit jen's like oh my god i love your outfit what beautiful daisies those are those are clovers jen oh i'm so sorry i i don't know anymore i was told i'm not allowed to even and talk until we hit 11 a.m., according to Heather.

34:00Ben Mandelker: Clover, it's Jen! Why does this not surprise me about you, that you're wearing a sparkly green shirt to the dog trainers? Shannon, thank you so much for being so you. Well, I, you know, I have to every year. Oh, what do you call your dog? Hello, dog! That's Rita. It's Rita. She has a new harness, Shannon, because we grew a little bit. Okay, don't be blaming the dogs. for getting chubby. You are feeding that dog that poor thing. Susan Bender is getting that dog an outfit ready. So then... Poor Rita. Rita, I love that. Everyone's weight shaming me here. I don't even have opposable thumbs. You guys are acting like I'm calling dominoes and shit.

34:42Ben Mandelker: I'd love that there's a dog named Rita, that Jen has a dog, just a big old dog named Rita. And you know, like in my mind, I'm hoping that Rita was named after like Rita Rudner or, you know, or someone like that. But, like, you know it's going to be something super like Margarita. Ria Moreno. But, you know, it was probably named after, like, Margarita, which is, like, so much more basic. Yeah. Well, I've got someone who's kind of like the death of me over here, Troy. Jesus Christ. Gets me Achilles heel every time, Troy. So she complains that Troy is a pain in the ass, But Troy is a baby, okay? We need to leave Troy alone.

35:25She got Troy to help her with Archie because Archie is getting older. And I think it was like a – sometimes people do that. You know, you get like a transitional pet. So you're not without a pet when the other pet passes. I don't know. To me, it's very sad. You know, it's dark. I couldn't – I can't do that. My sister wants me to because Bueller is so old. And I'm like, I'm not bringing in, like, Bueller's replacement while he's still at his desk. Like, that's just so weird. I don't like the thought of that. I'm not really judging anybody. My point is when they got Archie, I'm sure there was someone else there to train Archie because Archie is so well-behaved.

36:02And now you've got Troy, and all Troy has is Shannon. And this dog is not well-trained at all. And it seems like he's not well-trained, but then he's very well-trained when we see him with the trainer. he does everything the trainer he wants and gets a cookie so maybe archie's a bad influence i mean

36:20Ben Mandelker: let's also you know let's not forget i mean when archie came around there was also a fuller house you had like the meaning i mean who cares about david but you had the the three daughters that could probably lavish a lot more attention onto that dog i mean shannon's not really doing much so she can lavish a lot of attention but like shannon's going to lavish neurotic attention that will probably make the dog like neurotic and as opposed to the kids that could probably give a different kind of vibe so like no surprise that a dog that's getting 100 % shannon mature energy is like well is that a shoe i think i'm just gonna have a little shoe for a snack okay thank you yeah yeah i see that i feel for troy because that shannon energy has got to be okay you're not sitting where are you sitting what is wrong with you i told you to sit Why are you sitting?

37:11Sit down, please. Oh, now you sit. Now I don't even care that you're sitting. Well, thanks a lot. I guess I'll just eat this treat. What? I'm eating it. What? I mean, oh, you want the treat now? Okay. Maybe I'll sit down for it. Okay. Standing up again. God damn it.

37:24Ben Mandelker: Maybe Troy's just trying to get an alibi. Troy's like, let me tucker myself out during the day by acting crazy around the house. So that way I won't be accused of needing a midnight walk when someone crashes into a house. He's buried. he's very uh forward thinking um it's bizarre did we ever question why archie was even in the car when she was having when she had her doi wasn't archie was probably a party or something huh it is kind of funny to think of that or why archie was in the car like why was arch was archie actually in the car is she what yeah archie was in the car because then she walked she she got the car pretend like she was walking archie yeah she's like i don't know what what do you mean house Did a house crash into my car while I was walking Archie?

38:09Yeah, I don't really remember the whole story there. But the point is— Troy was being a good boy here. No, just kidding. The point is she's trying to train Troy. So she's like, well, Troy is very sweet, but he is a lot. He has eaten well over$12 ,000 worth of shoes. Oh, oh.

38:29Ben Mandelker: This is the point where you don't leave your shoes out on the floor, I think. this is where you put everything away from that dog because that's crazy 11 860 dollars more shoes than gina's ever displayed on the show i know also like why don't you go get like a 30 pair 30 pair of shoes that he can just chew on does that ever work if you give like a dog like just some cheap cheap shoes to chew on instead girl puppies eat everything they just eat everything. Bueller ate a Diet Coke can when he was a puppy. He ate it. The edge of the Diet Coke, the circular part, well, I guess it's all a circular part, but the part where the pops open, that part was the only thing left.

39:15Ben Mandelker: He actually ingested it? He ate it. He ate a Diet Coke. I didn't see him do it, obviously. I would have stopped him, but yeah, he ate it. Then I was pulling Diet Coke can out of his butt. Thankfully, he had crunched it enough that it didn't slice him open or he wouldn't still be here. And here he is. Little question doctor. But yeah, puppies will eat literally anything. So I don't know. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

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41:23So now they're talking about Vegas and they feel like old ladies. And Shannon's like, well, I just I'm an old lady. No, Shannon, I'm an old lady. All right. The both of you just stop.

41:36Ben Mandelker: Silly. So back over at We Vitalize. So Emily's like, after the last dinner in Vegas, did you guys go out? Yeah, we went to have this room you guys catch us walking through the casino and Heather was like in front She's walking like this

41:56Ben Mandelker: The return of the walking

42:05I'm just putting yourself in the give me a break opening.

42:13Show me that walk through the casino. Walk in front like you're the biggest star. You are the most important person in the group being the center.

42:45I was just like pressing next on the jukebox waiting, waiting until Mr.

42:52Ben Mandelker: Belvedere comes. Mr. Melvedeer is by camera weird Al that's a thing about Heather yeah they're mad about this because they were doing one of the okay housewives let's do an entrance scene and that's when they all walk and they're all dressed up and they do it in slow-mo and then you know they're like and so they're mad that Heather was insisting on being in front of shooting this slow-mo scene that's basically the unsaid part of this argument and i was cracking up and when it got to be a fight later and heather's like well i want the better lighting so what but also when they do show the shot of it you do see heather's in the center and she is walking like look at me like when you used to always talk about how heather and her assistant would walk like her assistant would walk behind her with the bag like heather is walking like she has like like a gaggle of assistants behind her and she's like which way to the oscars please you know it's i just like cracked up the assistant used to crack me up because she would follow heather and walking exactly the same as her and they would both have their own bags but they would be holding it up like this like a waiter holding up a tray and then the bag would be hanging off the hand like that and they were holding it the same way like dangling back and forth walking in the same exact motion and the the assistant would talk just like heather oh so funny but here yeah she's just you know she's just in the front of this stupid group entrance line and i why do they always get to be inside the group entrance that's not fair i'm gonna be inside the group entrance one time yeah and bickie's like yeah i mean it's ridiculous she's got to be front and center always getting the room key getting this getting that what look at heather always She's got to be getting her room key.

44:42Ben Mandelker: Don't you hate people who try to get into their own hotel rooms? Ugh, so annoying. And we're supposed to be together as a family. She's very entitled. She's very entitled. And she makes me feel like she's, you know, ahead of the troops. She's ahead of the troops. Yeah, we just have to fall in line with her. She's like, well, I'm not going to follow. I'm not going to follow in line. Well, also, of course, Vicky's pissed because Heather told her to shut the fuck up when Vicky was trying to, like, you know. Stand. down shame or slut shame mom shame or whatever you want to call it the newbie who she considers to be a slutty slut mix in yeah heather that's that is one of my favorite things that she did this season no stand down stand down no kids sit no she should be a hostage negotiator get out of that bank stand down and get out of that bank right now otherwise do you want me to recite my monologue from hot in cleveland when i was a guest star in 2011 across from jane leaves do you well here it goes table for three thank you

45:56Ben Mandelker: so um so emily's like well you know i'm not gonna follow i go rogue all the time that's why i eat that's why i eat fancy food in a funny way and let it dangle out of my mouth because that's me going rogue that's why she's always mad at me and tamara's like yeah and when you got like when she got in your face and like yeah you're at the casino remember that remember that vicky do you want to be mad about that and because like yeah she told me to stand down it's like stand down i I was like, what? Standing down? What? And they didn't show the clip. I was shocked. I was like, why are you not giving me this clip again of Heather yelling stand down?

46:29Ben Mandelker: It was like the best thing that happened all season. Yeah. Just a couple of things. Emily, Heather is not always mad at you because you won't fall in line. She's mad at you because you're always trying to come up with reasons to yell at her in public when she's never done anything but be nice to you. Season after season. I'm getting season after season. You do the same thing to Shannon. Like you're just switching back and forth because you've got fucking nothing. You've got nothing going on. I can't. This Heather's always mad at me. You're always starting shit with people. And then she always makes it about herself.

47:01Like, oh, I can't believe so-and-so is mad at me. It's because you're an asshole on purpose all the time.

47:07Ben Mandelker: I think Emily is actually uncomfortable around wealth. I think that's, you know, and obviously like, you know, we owe it like in every story. It's always like the super rich people are like the villains, right? because it's like they're disconnected and they're mean and they control things um but i think in this case i think emily is like really i think i think there's i think i think heather's wealth fundamentally bothers emily and that's why she keeps coming after heather over and over again i mean heather's also an asshole that could that could probably contribute to it too but i think she has i think for emily based on everything she's told us about like how she was like like the environment she was raised in and everything i think she has a worldview that like people like heather are like fundamentally awful and guess what a lot of people who are as wealthy as heather are fundamentally awful but at this point you've been on the show with her for like seven or eight years you know who she is why are you why are you still coming at her for the same thing over and over and over again just like accept that she's just like wealthy like she's just wealthy heather dubrow like like i don't know i guess what i'm trying to say is that i feel like she's prosecuting the same thing over and over and over again and it's like now it's now this is becoming your issue it's not heather's issue if it if it was even bringing up something that heather actually did or when heather is actually being annoying okay but this like coming up with like oh she yelled at vicky in her face and she calls me aggressive you are aggressive and then they show clips of emily being like oh fucking and then she's like okay well i can't be aggressive but still Like, she was really aggressive with Vicky.

48:42Well, maybe Vicky shouldn't be telling people they're terrible mothers and then pretending she doesn't know their name and slut-shaming them and doing all this other shit that you guys let Vicky. It's like you guys stood up for Gretchen, one of the worst. Like, the shit that was coming out that Gretchen was liking and all that on social media. And you guys are still trying to make it somebody else. Somebody else's fault so you can stand up. You guys are the worst. I'm going to hear it for you.

49:09Ben Mandelker: I'm going to revise my thing about Emily and Heather. I think that Heather, like, I think Emily feels lesser than around Heather. I think Emily sort of has a feeling like I'm the poor kid. I'm the poor kid and Heather's the wealthy one and she probably disapproves of me. I think that that Emily feels like Heather just just thinks of her as like whatever you're just like a like a support person Heather may think that but I think that these are what I'm trying to say is I do think that like Emily is bringing an insecurity to this so I'm revising what I said before about like she's not comfortable around wealth or whatever she's she's angry at wealthy people it's not that she's angry at wealthy people I think that she is I think that she be i think she's taken back to some place that she was in in her childhood where she felt lesser than as someone who had like a like was maybe there were wealthier classmates or something like that like that's what the vibe is over and over and over again and so for me it's like you're bringing your childhood like insecurities around or like you're putting them all onto heather in a certain way heather is a wealthy obnoxious person but i'm just saying like at a certain point i feel like this is moved into like you have to sort out your your shit now because you're coming at heather each and every time and i feel like you're the one who's feeling like you're lesser than and then because you act then because you come at heather heather's like fuck this person and so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy where heather is gonna be like dismissive of you and like just brush you off because you're awful to her yeah i mean i think that's a very compassionate take of like oh her childhood and her this and like i appreciate that you know um i just think emily is a fucking asshole and i think she's always coming after people because she considers it to be her job and she's just gonna do it no matter whether she has anything real to come at or not she's gonna team up with whoever she's and she always does it in teams where she goes behind she's doing it all season against carmella like well carmella got me this bag and i don't know if Carmella should have got me this bag.

51:18I mean, what, is she trying to buy my friendship? Oh, Gina, you're mad about the bag too? Gina said it too. You know, she's always this, she's always like trying to get a team to go against somebody and she picks somebody different every year. And it's just, I just find it to be just insincere. You know, it's like, she just doesn't have anything sincere about her. As far as all of her childhood stuff, like, honestly, I don't even care about it.

51:42Ben Mandelker: No, it's just me just trying to like imagine what what like it's not and by the way it's not me being compassionate because she has childhood issues it's just like what i'm i'm just feel like i'm seeing it and it's like at a certain point it's like if had like your insecurity that is coming out being around heather like you have to start dealing with that rather than going at heather over and over and over again okay like like you have to now address why does she make you feel this way why do you feel like when heather puts together a nice luncheon you have to put a cucumber in your mouth let it dangle out like you're a kid like you know like it's like she has to like poke holes through this like oh it's too it's like this it's too it's too fancy like oh look how stupid this all is it's like this is actually saying more about you than it is about heather you know heather made you a nice luncheon i'm so mad about that cucumber two years later when she's had it dangling out of her mouth because it was so immature and i think it's just like she just has she just has to deal with her shit at this point yeah and she does that you know she she puts her initials all over everything at every party why don't we do a look at your initials or when she's at a really nice heather party you're right she always does try to trash it up to be like oh she thinks she's so classy well my husband's fucking me up the butt later you know yeah it's like a rebuke she's always got to do something to be like i'm you know i'm one of the real ones but yeah heather is ridiculous come from some kind of well that's what i'm saying like heather does have a lot of stuff you should come at her for but yeah like the bag she shows up with today that say debro on them right 100 make fun of that but like she but emily comes at heather in with such with more than just like you it's her vibe her energy is not like heather you are ridiculous her her energy is like you're always bossing me around you're always doing this like she basically puts puts heather and her i'm assuming maybe she's also sort of like transferring issues with her mom onto heather as well like authority figure or something i just feel like it's like the the energy that she gets heather is just way deeper than just poking holes in her pretentiousness you know yeah it's too much much like the energy she probably thinks that heather looks down on her and i would agree i think heather probably does heather wouldn't be hanging out with you losers if she wasn't on this tv show and we all know it and i think that they all know it so they're like oh we'll just bring her down this time but it's not just heather it's just heather right now you know it's been shannon before we're thinking oh my god let's go on with shannon we're shannon's friends now isn't it crazy that we're like best friends with shannon and then they take minute things that shannon says there about her feelings being heard about whatever and they're like shannon was talking shit about you heather and she said they didn't and then sets heather against you know so they do it every year so again she's just i don't know why i'm surprised it's not really surprised it's just annoyance i think she's just sort of like stuck in this she has like a teenager thing that she's sort of stuck in and she just rebels against her mom uh and one year heather's the mom and one year shannon's the mom and it goes back and forth you know and vicky will probably vicky sticks around vicky will probably enter that mix uh tamara's like well what you said with nice vicky but still but still she's like well i mean of course you know whatever i said you know i apologize and we moved on it was over it was done you know like she wants to be a terrible parrot who am i be a terrible parrot it's a free country

55:09Ben Mandelker: and um emily's like yeah we all told vicky that but like the point is victoria can address it with carmella herself oh suddenly emily is in favor of not meddling with something oh that's interesting so back to heather she sent everybody against have to go for heather for the rest of the episode so by the way notably notably we're still in the first scene of the episode you know what sometimes you just get triggered by gina and emily and that's it if they don't want if they want shorter episodes then get them off this show that's what i say uh so yeah then they go to carmella's house it was a boring party and that was pretty much the end of the show but thank Thank you so much.

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