


Watch What Crappens recap of RHOC S20E08 Part Two (“Same Old Songria”), focusing on Heather and Carmela tensions, Vicky’s sincerity vs ulterior motives, and the fallout at Carmela’s Rancho Santa Fe party (including Danny, hot dogs, and Heather’s “sangria” mispronunciation).
Kim and Penn Holderness (Laugh Lines podcast hosts) provide commentary; no RHOC guests are interviewed in this episode.
Heather is portrayed as hypocritical—calling Carmela “trashy” off-camera while consoling her on-camera. Vicky’s Vegas apology is debated as possibly sincere or self-protective. The group’s “no kids” rules are criticized as hypocritical. Heather’s anger is framed as entertaining because she’s “a gun” until triggered.
Carmela and Heather compare Vicky to late-stage Betty White; Heather’s “sangria” becomes a running gag. Shannon helps with Shannon’s finances with Vicky’s planner (Uber/rent/debt figures). At the party, Vicky awkwardly enters, Danny is met awkwardly by Gina, and Heather tries to dominate the sangria moment while being excluded from group photos.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes.
Discussion about Carmela's feelings regarding Vegas and Vicky's apology.
“Designer-quality, custom-sized rugs cut to the exact size of your room and delivered in as little as two weeks.”
Discussion about Carmela's feelings regarding Vegas and Vicky's apology.
“And she's like, I'm a chronic overthinker.”
Shannon discusses her financial situation with Vicky's help.
“So Shanna's like, well, Heather was the one questioning her the most.”
The group shops for gifts for Carmela and discusses colds.
“All of this comes to$3 ,500, which is cuckoo bird.”
Discussion about Gina's cold and her interactions with Heather.
“because Gina's like, yeah, and like Heather got like a good laugh out of it when I told her.”
The group discusses Carmella's invitation and Heather's controlling nature.
“I got every piece out there from Wayfair.”
Exploration of Emily and Shane's relationship dynamics during a date night.
“Yeah, well, you also have terrible fashion.”
Explore the complexities of Emily's relationship and her partner's reactions.
Carmela gets ready for her house party with unconventional food choices.
“I mean, just every sentence between these two is pure pain.”
The cast drives to the party while calling Vicky, setting the tone for the event.
“So they're all excited to go to the party.”
The cast reacts to the strange decor, including a Pilates reformer in the foyer.
“And they're like, even for these ladies, they're like, that's weird.”
Carmela introduces her kids while discussing appropriate behavior at the party.
“lot of taste happening yeah it feels like a creamy hued version of like the black lodge from twin peaks it's just like every room is cream colored and it's sort of like an existential like empty nightmare world.”
Vicky's entrance is met with mixed reactions, showcasing her unique personality.
“And Gina goes, yeah, well, I do feel the Pilates reformer is an interesting decor piece.”
Shannon humorously describes her interaction with Vicky and the party atmosphere.
“But Shannon, of course, she's like, oh, hello, I just walked in.”
The group discusses hot dogs, revealing their differing opinions and preferences.
“Well, Vicky just stuck her finger up my butt and I've got Spanx on.”
Gina expresses her discomfort meeting Danny, highlighting the show's drama.
“Watch me walk along a New York City street and I'll spill some hot dog on the sidewalk because I'm just someone of the people.”
Tamara brings up cheating rumors surrounding Danny as he arrives at the party.
The hosts discuss a humorous scene involving Heather trying to make sangria.
“So then Heather's like, everyone, everyone, I'm interrupting this stagnant scene to announce that I will be making some sangria.”
Carmela shares her feelings about her relationship with Danny and motherhood.
“And Jen is like, you had sex two times a day, Emily?”
Shannon talks about being single and her past experiences with relationships.
“She's pathetic, but at least she gives blowjobs.”
The group dynamics are revealed as Heather feels excluded during a photo session.
“I love getting some quote unquote feedback from Emily and Gina, who really have so much world experience on everything.”
The hosts discuss the dynamics of group interactions and personalities in social settings.
“She says, all I care about is the good light.”
Heather expresses her frustrations with Emily and the misunderstandings between them.
“So then Heather tells us, Emily is very frustrating to me because the things that she accuses me of, I think are the things that she does on the regular that I don't complain about.”
The conversation shifts to discuss public outbursts and their connection to family trauma.
“And then, you know, when she was shitty in Vegas, then you just dropped from the ceiling and all of a sudden you're in the middle of it.”
Vicky prepares to leave early, leading to reflections on the events of the season.
“Jesus, it's going to take me two hours and 45 minutes, and my party starts at 7, and I'm going to be there at 7 to 40.”

Get the gist, explore an idea or ask about something said.
On Watch What Crappens, what are the key points of this episode?
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.
0:00Finding the right size rug can be hard. Enter Ernesta. Designer-quality, custom-sized rugs cut to the exact size of your room and delivered in as little as two weeks. Not sure of the size or the material? Start with five samples for just$10 today to see them in your own light and match to your decor. Plus, get$50 toward any rug of your choice. Visit Ernesta.com today. That's E-R-N-E-S-T-A dot com. Hi, this is Kim and Penn Holderness from the Laugh Lines podcast.
0:30Ben Mandelker: This episode is sponsored by Oli, your wellness partner for back to school and beyond. Back to school season is here. Packed backpacks, packed lunches and packed schedules are officially back. Oli Kids Sleep helps little dreamers wind down with a gentle blend of melatonin, L-theanine and botanicals for restful sleep. Translation, an easy way to put those school night negotiations to bed. And for the grown-ups, Ollie's sleep helps you fall asleep, stay asleep, and wake up feeling refreshed. Because as you know, the morning mayhem comes early. Visit Ollie.com and stock up on back-to-school must-haves today.
1:06Ben Mandelker: That's O-L-L-Y dot com. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
1:23Watch what crappens, watch what crappens, who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens? Let's move on, watch what crappens, watch what crappens, who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens?
1:40Ben Mandelker: Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap. So Carmela and Heather are talking about Vegas and Carmela is was not happy when she thought about what happened in Vegas. And she's like, I'm a chronic overthinker.
2:07Literally something no one's ever accused this person of. I can guarantee you that right now.
2:16Ben Mandelker: No. Like, really? so um uh yeah she talks about how basically she says something happens then she ruminates about something later she's a slow processor essentially what she's trying to say and now she's sort of now wondering if vicky's apology was it sincere or is vicky just trying to get herself out of hot water and then carmella naturally takes it to the to a place we were not expecting she goes you know it's just that like you lose your filter when you get older because i think back to betty white when she was alive like she would say whatever she wanted because she was betty white and then they show footage archival footage was of right it was like betty white and heather and was mendy malik in this footage or is that just my brain playing tricks on your brain puts her there you're like i swear to god i saw her at popeyes last night wendy malik wendy malik was at my place that's my getting drunk together uh but that was funny she's like she reminds me of betty white oh really roll the clip of me and my good friend R.I.P.
3:18Betty White. Betty. Ha ha ha, Betty. Ah!
3:23Ben Mandelker: Yeah, she was like a mother to me when I worked with her because I've been on television. So basically, Carmella's saying that Vicky is like late stage Betty White right now.
3:37Yeah. It was kind of weird that they started playing the Golden Girls-esque music to be like, oh, Vicky, she's just like Betty White. No, she's not. I would like to think that even Betty White would have kicked her in the nets.
3:50Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I think Vicky's more in the Mama's family vertical. So Heather is like. She's more of a Naomi. A Nomi. She is a Naomi. She's 100 % Naomi. Oh, my God. So Heather's like, I mean, you know, she's just hilarious. And that's why I think everyone goes, oh, it's just Vicky. And then it cuts to Jen being like, oh, you know, Vicky, that's just Vicky. she just says stuff what is that oh well it's it's it's a lot well carmella she was just really grateful for the apology instead of taking vicky to task and you know what i was so grateful for her being grateful i mean what a good person well it's not only that tamra was upset when we were at the gambling tables and heather was advocating for carmella and we see again that heather is like, this girl is fucking crying.
4:40Ben Mandelker: Why are you doing this? And Tamara's like, yeah, I know, but yeah, but you thought it was weird, huh? She's like, well, I said to her, it's weird that you said to her that I'm going to give you$20 ,000. Yeah, but you said that and now you're trying to be over here being the savior. So if you think it's weird that someone's getting $20 ,000, you should be happy that everybody's bullying them and making them cry, Heather. I mean, good. Yeah, yeah. Basically attitude, right? So then Shannon, now the thing is, Shannon's like, well, she said Heather was anti-Carmella, and now all of a sudden she's trying to save Carmella.
5:18Listen, you can say, I think this person, listen, I think this new girl's probably too trashy for us. It's not the nicest thing to say, but it turns out to be kind of what she says. Like, okay, we're casting new people, and this is who we get. This person seems like a trashy person. And then you get to know them, and they're kind of nice. and then you see them getting bullied by the group and you stand up for that person. What's so wrong? The thought that you have to be like, wow, my first impression was I don't like this person. So then after that, you just have to be mean to them ever. What the hell, cast?
5:54Come on.
5:55Ben Mandelker: And by the way, it is verified that Heather felt that Carmella was trashy because in the mid-season trailer that dropped after this episode, we see Heather talking to Carmella and she goes, I did say that you are trashy
6:13Ben Mandelker: so
6:20Ben Mandelker: she probably does say that to a lot of people on a daily basis thank you for this Starbucks now before I leave this establishment I want you to know that just over there I did say that you are trashy okay have a great one I hope we can be friends now I'm sorry. So Shanna's like, well, Heather was the one questioning her the most. And, oh, I guess she said some things. Well, you know, it's frustrating because Heather says she makes these moves off camera. And then it's hard to sit on the other side of that friendship and be like, well, I genuinely love you. And I genuinely want this friendship with you because it feels calculated.
6:56It just it feels calculated.
7:00Ben Mandelker: So Shanna goes, I don't know. You know, I don't know. so then uh back to revitalize tamra's like yeah when camara's not around she says a lot about camara she's over there going like she doesn't fit in tamra i know you're not the one who's going to be complaining about someone talking shit about someone behind their back and then being nice them to their face i know tamra's not gonna be that person any of you you're all doing it right now to heather so um and uh emily tells us that heather was not a fan of carmella and she made it very clear multiple times off camera that she thought she was really trashy looking and that she didn't fit in with the group and she shouldn't even be here okay well that's why we say things off camera i mean for christ's sake are we just not allowed to talk shit anymore yeah seriously so we go back to the oppahein group and for for some reason heather goes oh they just opened a caviar store do you eat caviar and carmel is like i ate toast and monster and heather just like Hold on, hold on, hold on.
8:03One second. Let me just open my notebook here. A ding! Ding! Another ding against you, Carmela.
8:09Ben Mandelker: I'm just going to smile at you. Not even sure what monster is, but I know I don't like it. But I need a buddy, so great. If I invite you over to dinner, will you put a napkin in your collar, or will you not do that? I just need to mentally prepare myself. I don't know what monster is. However, as your friend, I will say this. Toast gross. Gross. But is there caviar on that toast? You know, like a breakfast caviar. Breakfast caviar. So then Emily is still complaining about Heather's being in the center. And she's like, I heard her. I walked behind her. She was like all up, you know, she was like being very Heather Dubrow about it, complaining about Carmella being in the center.
9:04And then Tamara's saying, yeah, like when she was crying at the table, Heather was the first one to go over a car. It's not fair. Was she so mean to her?
9:13Ben Mandelker: They're basically just going on and on about this, that Heather's like basically a two face, like calling her trash, but then but then consoling her. And it's like not fair to them. They think that she's a hypocrite. They're being such assholes that even Vicky stands up for Heather and Vicky forgets that she was just mad at Heather two seconds ago. But they're like, yeah, I mean, she's talking that shit about Carmela. She's being nice to Carmela. Like, what the fuck is that? And she's like, well, that's compassion. I mean, it's like compassion, you know? Like, if Carmela was sad or something, that's not compassion.
9:41Carmela was crying, you know, that she was hugging her. That's what compassion means. You know, I hurt her feelings, made her cry, and someone hugged her. It was compassion. It'd be a stupid compassion. It's like giving dollars to somebody under the bridge and expecting them not to snort it.
9:56Ben Mandelker: so now we go back to shannon's house and vicky comes over to help shannon talk about financials because shannon's whole thing is like well i decided at 62 that money matters and i should pay attention to it so um because you're out so that's the only reason anybody suddenly decides well i really should start paying attention to finances oh maybe getting some so troy starts to lick vicky uh which like you know that's probably a sad surprise for troy it's got vicky flavor well we have found the one thing that makes troy choke congratulations he's like oh god ah troy stop wiping your tongue on the couch it's troy I don't know what's gotten into him.
10:44Ben Mandelker: He's, do we have an EpiPen for Troy? I've never seen him react like this. Troy, why are you trying to eat the ham soap off of the kitchen counter? I don't know what's wrong with Troy.
10:58Ben Mandelker: So, Shannon is, she's trying to make, she's trying to get her financial shit together. She's like, you know, Vicky really knows her stuff. She's a financial planner. You know, I've created some debt. I get my, you know, because I know I give money to my kids, so I call my kids my little, my little, my little, my little debt, debtren. So children, they're debtren, you know, because they're basically three walking piles of debt in my life. I'm so happy that they can gallivant across Europe and do drugs and narcotics while I'm sitting here with, with creditors calling me and I just live in poverty, but that's okay.
11:34Ben Mandelker: You do everything for your children. And I put all my savings into real for real. Well, unfortunately, I had to shut my company down. I don't real for really understand that. It was an amazing title for a company, RealReal. It's not fake real. It's a RealReal. I don't understand why people thought there was brand confusion when they signed up for Real for Real and all they got was salmon stuffed with cream cheese. But that's, I guess, I don't know. so vicky uh brings her a financial planning thing and they go through her debt and it's insane family twenty thousand dollars a month no goodbye you're all cut off yeah ubers three thousand dollars a month that one i'll give her because dui like what else is she gonna do i'm true and you have to go far distances in orange county but i but she she should maybe still look at some more maybe some Uber pool once in a while.
12:32That's still Ubers every single... That's like twice a day, Ubers? I mean, that's a lot of Ubers. Okay, and then healthcare, 900. Okay, that's understandable. Rent,$10 ,500. Oh my God. No, that's too high. Too high. Too high. All of this comes to$3 ,500, which is cuckoo bird. I would say get rid of the family, cut your rent in half,
12:58Ben Mandelker: cut your ubers in half you'll be good also like ten thousand dollars a month in rent at that point i feel like you should you should buy right at least build some equity rather than just like throw out ten thousand dollars every month i mean i know she's happy where she is but come on so um uh yeah vicky is like yeah this is not good we're gonna we're going to um we're gonna fix this for you um so now we go to uh melrose in the oc and jen emily and gina are shopping um and emily has some readers on because she needs readers now and they're looking for gifts because they're gonna be going to carmella's place and they're gonna get like a little gift gift for carmella yes um so they're just talking about they're just making small talks talk about colds like who has a cold and stuff.
13:50And they're talking about Shannon. Oh yeah, this is actually funny.
13:52Ben Mandelker: Wait, the cold thing is funny because I think that Gina has a cold now and she got it from Emily. And even this gets used against Heather because Gina's like, yeah, and like Heather got like a good laugh out of it when I told her. And we see a flashback of Gina telling Heather, I got Emily's cold. And Heather goes, see, that will teach you for rooming with her. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Sick person. they're so mad at her I'm gonna get her I'm gonna bring her down for that so they're shopping for Carmella to get her a little gift and Gina's like do they sell them to your bags yeah and we're like do the vibrators oh so hilarious we see Shanna yeah she's like no you'd have to go to Zensations for that so then we do see a flashback of Shannon reading the invitation from Carmella and she texted, I want to invite you girls to hang out at my place in the ranch, pool, lunch, and a little R &R.
14:54Ben Mandelker: Super low-key. We don't want super low-key. Stop this, Carmella. You're already super low-key. Let's get some high-key. You know what sounds fun? Driving two and a half hours to eat a hot dog in your backyard. No. Seriously. Jesus. If you're going to fake it and live in Orange County just for the show, that's fine. But don't make me drive to your other place. What the hell? I know. God. Heather Dubrow had to go all the way down from Beverly Hills to this. Period. It's too much. Period. Well, this time my kids will be around, and she wants us to meet a kid. So that's nice. Like, she said maybe our boyfriend, Danny, will be there.
15:30Danny. His name is Dan, by the way. Danny.
15:34Ben Mandelker: Danny. So they were, like, curious about Danny because they've heard so much. And Jen's like, yeah, she and I were shopping before Vegas. and she's like you know she pulled out this dress and said let me go pick a dress so i can cheat with you on vegas and she's like i'll just give it back to him because like some because i'm like so pissed and like oh my god like they're like not gonna stay together like there's like a part of her that like maybe felt like a little stuck you know they're like not all of a sudden gina whose whole thing has been like coming down on on uh carmella and then eventually is like well i just like want to get to know you like i don't know who you are like that's what i'm now all of a sudden she's diagnosing what's happening with carmela's relationship yes gina the relationship expert yeah seriously it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial i have a giant deck outside and needed to furnish it and was worried about getting things that matched and getting things from different stores and making it all work together well it ended up all working out beautifully with Wayfair.
16:38I got every piece out there from Wayfair. I got couches, I got chairs, I got tables with chairs, I got heat lamps. Everything I needed for that patio came directly from Wayfair and it looks fantastic.
16:52Ben Mandelker: Wayfair is all about quality. You can find quality materials that stand up to real life, especially outside on a patio. You can shop furniture and decor that's built to last and you can shop with Wayfair's verified. It's your shortcut to durable pieces hand vetted by product specialists using a 10-point quality inspection, testing things like quality materials and functionality and features, and even how long it takes to build. Wayfair Rewards members get 5 % back every day, helping you to get even more value from your Wayfair purchases. You can find options that fit your style and your budget and create a home that you love without overspending and shop across a wide range of price points to find what's right for you.
17:30Ben Mandelker: Join Wayfair Rewards today and get 5 % back on every purchase and start saving on your next home upgrade. Head to Wayfair.com to shop all things home. That's W-A-Y-F-A-I-R.com. Wayfair, every style, every home. Wayfair, every style, every home. This is Hannah Berner from Giggly Squad. O-Pill is the first over-the-counter daily birth control pill available in the U.S. let's be real getting a birth control prescription is not always easy and it's so much admin in fact about a third of women face barriers to access prescription birth control between scheduling appointments missing work class or just trying to exist it's a lot but now opill is putting birth control in our control opill is a daily birth control that's fda approved full prescription strength and estrogen free and 98 effective when used as directed grab it online or at most major retailers no prescription or doctor's appointment needed so if you're thinking about birth control check out opill to see if it's right for you use code giggly for 25 off your first month of opill at opill.com that's code giggly at opill.com birth control in your control we love to see it
18:48she's like i know because my relationship was being i can see like her relationship is being Yeah, well, you also have terrible fashion. That doesn't mean everybody around you has terrible fashion, too. You know, like let people live. So Jen is like, well, how was Heather after Vegas? Because, you know, I broomed with Heather and she would just be like, I'm taking it from everybody. Yeah, she was she was really upset with you guys. She was really hurt. And I was like, yeah, well, that last night, no, I was so irritated with her. She was controlling every conversation. She was so monopolizing that I get made out to be a villain because I said all you do.
19:22All you do is talk. And then we go to Vegas. sounds just, then she's mean and aggressive. Okay. That's you're really rewriting history here. You guys are coming for Heather. That's why she got annoyed.
19:37Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And so Emily's like, I'm continually perplexed that I get labeled as aggressive. And of course they show the footage of her losing her mind with Kelly Dodd, which was so fun, funny. And she goes, well, maybe I could be a little aggressive, but I will give you that, but Heather is extremely aggressive and I feel like she never actually gets called out on it jen's like well i don't really find heather to be aggressive i mean the way she went at vicky it was just like wow but like who's this but like you know but i feel like that came from a place that just came from a place for heather i feel like heather's not aggressive i think oh out of place sorry i think heather's not aggressive i think she just scolds and that maybe like i think scolding someone is different than being aggressive scolding is almost like in pursuit of reducing aggression in a weird way it's like no heather can be aggressive but she was telling someone who is being extremely out of pocket to shut the fuck up so i mean it's fine by me and then that's like yeah and this whole rule she puts in place like no kids no careers oh that's too broad oh really oh okay excuse me should we tell that to katie janela then who you ran off the show because um her daughter janela's daughter like like babysat your kids and like made this casual comment about heather dubrow and it's like kids are off limits and now suddenly we're going to um repeal that law yes coming from emily you see the biggest fucking hypocrite yeah like she was pissing you last night because you said something like maybe she's sensitive because she didn't get some role or something and then she shut that down and then we see a flashback to Jen being like, um, did you share about your audition?
21:15She's like, oh God, why are we talking about that? Well, I mean, I just, you know, people want to know what's wrong with you. And I said, maybe you're upset about that. She's like, no, I mean, I wasn't upset, but it has nothing to do with this. Like, oh my God, we'd really triggered Heather. Maybe that's it. They're really, they're really trying it here.
21:33Ben Mandelker: Unfortunately, everyone, I lost the role in one battle after another to chase infinity. So there, I said it. Listen, auditions are like big words for Gina. It's not often that I get them. Okay. But you just keep going. Did I feel like I could play Leonardo DiCaprio's teenage daughter? Yes. Did the producers not have the same vision? Yes. Am I moving on? Yes. And that's all I'm going to say about it. Betty White, Betty White, Betty White, Betty White, Betty White, Betty White Well, she got defensive And, you know, like, she thought you were, like, it was threatening to her It was threatening to her So now Heather was acting threatened because you asked about an audition And, um, so Seeing how thirsty these people are to get another season on this show They should understand And they should understand the disappointment one carries when you get rejected at an audition.
22:35Ben Mandelker: Okay? No kidding. You all should have been. So then Emily is like, well, you know, when it comes to Heather, I want to talk about my kids. You know, she only wants to talk about the positive things. And Jen's like, yeah, I want to talk about my kids with you guys. You guys, it's not that she was saying stop talking about kids. She was saying stop calling someone a bad mother. like why are you they're being so you know willfully ignorant on this to try and start a fight you guys are in the wrong yeah and like you guys are the ones who have pushed the no kids for years so um you know and Emily's like no we had the best conversation when I was at your house the other day and that meant a lot to me because we had a nice conversation so talks about she talks about how they had a nice conversation about you know children who have uh the pandas diagnosis etc et cetera.
23:28Ben Mandelker: And Emily is basically, so anyway, they basically conclude Heather sucks. You can't talk to her about kids. She has too many rules. She ruins everything. She ruined Vegas. She ruined this. She ruins that. She walks away to the center. It's just another season where they're going to come for Heather. But that actually makes me optimistic because I often feel like the seasons where they come for Heather wind up being quite funny because they're all so clumsy when they come for her, but Heather gets rattled nonetheless. And she usually destroys them, but also watching her like get enraged is so deeply entertaining for me so i'm optimistic that this path will be good for the show i i agree with you i mean heather is like a gun you know it's just it's just decoration until it's triggered you know it's like what's the point of this thing you need to get it triggered yeah so then we go to oliver's trattoria and it's Emily, Shane, Date Night.
24:23Oh, God. I hope you're all ready to believe in love again. Why do they keep showing us Emily and Shane Date Nights every single year? Out of all of the painful things that we have to sit through, this is one of the most.
24:36Ben Mandelker: Every season. It never gets better. Oh, my God. They two hate each other. They hate each other. It's actually pretty funny every time because they've never had one where it's like, wow, there's a couple that loves each other. every single time they're like so um normally the issue is that emily is wanting something from shane and she's like what uh what but this conversation goes the other way around where really it's shane who's wanting something from emily and um emily's saying how it's really hard for them to go out and have alone time because luke is always calling and texting and interrupting they often have to turn around and go home because he needs something or another it always ruins the night which again um just uh we'll just earmark this we'll flag this for therapy later on when uh luke has to talk about how his parents um blame him for ruining all their nights but uh also like is this naive this is another one where ben is not a parent in 2026 is it naive to say take the phone away from him can we do that is that an option the phone away i don't know i don't know because i guess not you know he's special needs and stuff so i don't think i don't know what the rules are on that that's why i'm genuinely asking it's not even i mean i sort of said in a snarky tone like it may not be he may throw a fit or something and it just is like it might be horrible for everyone involved but um my first instinct was take the fun away well there yeah i don't i really don't know what the answer is to that one um but you know i would suggest maybe stop blaming everything on luke on tv that would probably be a good first step for you guys uh for you emily so then they um she's talking about how she went to a new gym this morning and um shane is asking when he when she thinks that ryan is going to get married to uh that dingling uh what's her fun what's her funds and they're making small talk and then emily is like you know i wonder how shane and i've made it i think because we're both dedicated to our children and our family like i don't want them to be a part of our broken home i mean i was part of a broken home so i still kind of hate jane but we just stay together because i don't want my kids to be from a broken home well this has been romantic can i get this to go the fun happy anniversary so she asked if he's unhappy being a stay-at-home dad because uh and it's challenging for him he basically stopped working to help raise the kids because emily is a housewife she's a she's official celebrity so she's i think that's the implication is that she's going off and she has this very busy lifestyle as a housewife and she's shooting and yada yada yada so he is the one dropping the kids off making the food doing the laundry etc and then she comes home and she just like goes up to the bed and it's like on her phone and like just not paying attention and i'll say this is the same stuff that they talked about on wife swap and it sounds like nothing has really changed which is not a good sign and their first season and their second season and their third whether jane was working or not or emily was working or not or anybody no matter what the situation has been it's always been that emily just wants to be in bed reading her phone yeah so it's the same fine it's always boiled down which listen i'm someone who loves to be in my bed and stay on the phone so but that's also part of the reason i stay single so i don't i don't really know what the win is but i'm not getting out of bed so everybody can get off my ass emily does push back she's like well i did make a steak the other night and we've been having more sex he's like oh sure okay he's fine and she does every little thing like he orders chicken alfredo and it comes goes god it looks like you're getting the kids meal anyway he's just like yeah Okay, well, there was just another slam.
28:35I'll take. I mean, just every sentence between these two is pure pain. All right, let's move on and go to Rancho Santa Fe. Carmela's getting ready for her big house party. She's got frozen yogurt and hot dogs. Honestly, not mad at it.
28:51Ben Mandelker: That sounds like a Ben spectacular right there. I was like, if it weren't 1 a.m., I would have probably gone and found a hot dog. Because I'm very influenced. When they eat hot dogs on Bravo, I almost always go and get a hot dog myself. Yeah. It's a bentacular. Yeah. So let's see. Everybody else is driving to Rancho Santa Fe. We're with Tamara, Jen, Jen, and Gina, John, John, John, John, John in the car. Yeah. Tamara, Jen, Jean, John, Jehoshaphat. So they're all excited to go to the party. They call Vicky. And Vicky's pretending to be in a good mood because I think one of the producers is like, yeah, Vicky, it's the 20th anniversary and you seem miserable in every single scene.
29:34Could you maybe try? She's like, woohoo, I'm so excited to be stuck in traffic going to the sluts party. Scrap, scrap. Yeah, love it, love it.
29:43Ben Mandelker: Yeah, yeah. Then Carmela's taking photos with Dani. Dani's taking photos with Carmela and the kids, et cetera, and she's making jokes. Once upon a time, I used to take some photos. Like, yeah, mom, you were exposed in those pictures. so um carmella's like by the way on a serious note can we not say anything inappropriate in front of my new friends i'm like we're the appropriate ones you're not mother so people show up um and they walk in her sheena pose i was cracking up i was like oh my god she even does her sheen she even does the sheena pose so the the women walk in there's a giant Pilates reformer in the foyer.
30:26Ben Mandelker: And they're like, even for these ladies, they're like, that's weird. Yeah, I didn't know what the fuck that thing was. I knew it was some kind of exercise thingy. But yeah, it's tacky. And it made me wonder, is this their real home? Or is this a home they moved into specifically for housewives? Because you know a lot of people do that. And then they just like shove stuff wherever. but you would think that they'd move it for people coming over the first time but i don't know i will say none of the rooms looked really well done um it's like they showed an office and the office was kind of catty corner and then the chairs were another catty corner it feels like there's not a lot of taste happening yeah it feels like a creamy hued version of like the black lodge from twin peaks it's just like every room is cream colored and it's sort of like an existential like empty nightmare world.
31:20Ben Mandelker: Nightmare. Like a cream colored nightmare in there. Yeah. So then they're all like meeting the kids and stuff, which is And Gina goes, yeah, well, I do feel the Pilates reformer is an interesting decor piece. Like if I was selling this home, it would be the first thing. You're not selling this home, Gina, okay? You're selling teeny tiny old people condos in a retirement. Yeah, seriously. Stop. Unless Elizabeth Vargas is dropping something in your lap. Unbelievable. Undeniable house for sale. So people are still arriving. She's showing up like there's hot dogs here. There's this here. Ginger water, whatever.
32:08Ben Mandelker: Vicky shows up. Vicky meets the kids. And Carmela's like, these are the kids that I left behind. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. And then it comes to Vicky going, yeah, you did leave them behind. She's like, actually, all those apologies I swear were real. No. Vicky does that thing where she comes in. She's alone, and she comes in after everybody else has already gotten there, and she acts really weird. Like, oh, my God, am I supposed to open the door? Am I not supposed to open the door? I mean, is there somebody to greet you at the door? I mean, I guess I'll – I guess I'll – hello? Hello?
32:42Oh, God, should I go into the house? Should I not go into the house? oh my god what do i do do i go to that hallway oh god what is so rude like what i'm supposed to do walk through the hallway hello hello walk into the fucking house it's a backyard party why are you acting like miss manners and you can't believe that there's not a butler there greeting you give
32:59Ben Mandelker: me a break on delays get in there yeah carmella is like she's like you know it's like a boxer that kicks or hits a guy in the nuts it's like because he's unskilled and like there's just something unskilled here when it comes to Vicky. Yeah, unskilled Vicky. But Shannon, of course, she's like, oh, hello, I just walked in. Like, hello, fellow Rancho Santa Santa Fe girly. Well, sisters forever. Blood, blood, blood sisters. We have a bond, a Rancho Santa Fe bond, so I will always be nice to you. It feels great to be here. Thank you. Well, Vicky just stuck her finger up my butt and I've got Spanx on.
33:36Wait, hold on. Kids, are you watching this? Whoa! Is she going to fall? Is Auntie Shannon going to fall? Whoa!
33:47Ben Mandelker: Oh, could someone help me? I do believe I got my foot stuck in the Pilates reformer. I thought it was a foot massager. Could you replace this with a financial reformer? That would be helpful. Carmella's like, oh, Heather, there's hot dogs. I don't know if you eat hot dogs. She goes, oh, I do. I love hot dogs. Watch me walk along a New York City street and I'll spill some hot dog on the sidewalk because I'm just someone of the people. The classic housewives. I love hot dogs. Me too. I eat hot dogs every chance I get. Once a year. Yeah, once a year. And then they sit there and nibble like one tiny little thing out there.
34:35They're like, yeah, hot dogs.
34:38Ben Mandelker: they're eating the hot dogs like corn on the cob this is how you do it right um isn't that like yolanda's party where they first saw the hot dog and yolanda's like the hot dog is ironic you're not supposed to eat it no have an almond um also she would not have served hot dogs no no you know what i mean heather shows up by the way she has these bags these branded debro bags and she's got some bottles of wine that we we will find out what those are momentarily uh maybe it's a new entrepreneurial endeavor for her so um gina is on the chair outside with emily she's like you know it's like weird meeting danny when we like know so much stuff like i feel weird i feel weird it feels weird to even say this like normally i feel bad but i just feel weird i feel weird lady yeah i feel like so weird you know like it's weird and you know what i don't have poker face but you get poked all the time no like the game poker oh okay i poke you i mean you definitely have poker face no i don't mean that kind but like danny cheated on it like i don't know if i'm supposed to like say hi like what am i supposed to do am i supposed yeah you're in someone's home so generally you say hello just fake it it's not that hard anybody raising either one of you for christ's sake fake it and talk shit afterwards so then gina gina's like you know i like i know all like the dirty things about him and like no now i just feel like hey man what's up like nice to meet you yeah that's actually exactly what you do so i was like yes you've served it it's called manners yeah yeah so they're well what i want to say is how long ago was it that you cheated on her loser was there like recently that's only oh that's so loud he's like right now so tamra comes comes over she's like hey how'd you say Well, you gotta go meet a boyfriend.
36:43Ben Mandelker: You gotta go meet Danny. Well, I don't know. I don't know if I can. Because it's not uncomfortable for you to meet him, knowing what we know. You guys live in Orange County. I mean, I haven't looked up the cheating rates in Orange County. But just from watching this show, I think they're really high. I think you've said hello to people who have had affairs before. Have you talked to Jen's fiancé?
37:11Ben Mandelker: exactly you know um so tam is like what you have about cheetahs and so then danny walks up while they're talking about this like hey everyone i'm danny and they're like oh oh hi oh are you overwhelmed by all of us isn't it crazy he's like yeah i am but it's good are you scared he's like no not really scared are you nervous well now i am okay don't be nervous we're really nice sometimes sometimes we're nice well not tammy sue not emily though we're back at steel just all the rest of the girls okay you can walk away right now cheetah bad cheetah so he goes in and um okay yeah he is nervous by the way seeing all these people he's like oh hi it's me danny hope everything's great uh so inside uh shanna's getting a hot dog and she's like i'll uh oh i guess We're not inside yet.
38:05Who cares? Wherever the hot dog guy is, I'll take some ketchup on mine. Well, you don't put ketchup on hot dogs. Not from Chicago, you don't. That is the same in Chicago. We don't do that. We absolutely do that. Who puts ketchup on hot dogs? Well, he's got a gigantic container of ketchup that he's splurting. So apparently some people do.
38:25Ben Mandelker: Well, I know that they don't put ketchup on hot dogs in Chicago, but I'm from Rancho Santa Fe. In fact, I'll have a Rancho Santa Fe dog, which will have no additives, no preservatives, no meat, no casings, no bun, no ketchup, just actually an empty plate. Thank you so much. Could you slip me a basket of hot dogs under the table? Thank you. So then they're all talking about the hot dogs, and they're all outside talking about the hot dogs, and Vicky is still pushing her Chicago hot dog agenda. and um heather is like plenty she's just wanted to there's like oh so that thing that you're putting in your mouth is that is that za that's what they call it right pizza za like it's a hot dog heather oh oh i love hot dogs i love them is that so good do i need to go eat a hot dog Do I need to eat one of those?
39:25I should eat one of those. I'm going to get one any minute. She just sits there. I just wait for one.
39:31Ben Mandelker: After the car, I just need to settle. My stomach is a little upset driving into this non-Beverly Hills area. So I just need to get my stomach to settle. So hot dog in a moment. The dog of hot. I was worried about the potholes in a low-income area. So I just got in a velvet box and had two Alfredos carry me here. oh my stomach is a little bit oh you know oh hot dogs can't wait to try one of those at some point sometime alfredo go eat a hot dog okay are you done that was delicious thank you
40:10wait someone hit me on the back alfredo burps well done thank you he's my hot dog surrogate
40:27so now we see Vicky still talking about hot dogs which I'm fast forwarding yeah and then Tamara's trying to start some shit she's like oh what's going to happen to you in the car better we're fine we're fine what do you want I mean she doesn't have anybody answering her door I had to walk in. I didn't know where I was. There was no one in the house, but whatever. I'm fine. Yeah, I'm fine. Sometimes you just have to accept that, you know, you're driving down the street, there's a lot of trash there, and you're like, well, it's trash day. So we're fine. We're fine.
41:02Ben Mandelker: Yeah, but hey ladies, you know what happened? Vicky walked in and was like, oh, are those your kids? And then Carmela said, yeah, those are the kids I left behind. And Vicky's like, well, that's what she did. I mean, we all leave our kids behind when we go traveling, you know? And Jen's like, Vicky, like, apologized to Carmela in Vegas, but let's be honest, like Vicky's like completely mom shamed her. So now you guys are like the same kind of people and, and you and Carmela are like best friends. No, no, you're not.
41:28Ben Mandelker: No. Hey guys, it's Paige from Giggly Squad. Okay. Can we all agree that hosting is so much fun? And I really do love it. Every weekend it's come over for snacks. Let's make dinner together. and somehow the second you put out a fruit platter, it seems that bugs show up before your friends do. This is why I have to have my Zeevo flying insect trap. You plug it in and you let it do all the work. It's specially designed blue and UV light attracts the bugs you didn't know you had. And wow, did we have a lot. Like house flies, fruit flies, gnats. And then with Zeevo, bam, next thing you know, the pests are caught in the sticky cartridge and away from your yummy treats without any mess or strong odors.
42:13The best part is the design is actually sleek and curved, so it hides the bugs it catches, keeping them out of sight, and when the cartridge is full, you just grab the no mess tab, throw it in the trash, pop in a new cartridge, and then you're done. No mess, no stress. So whether you're hosting a dinner party or spending an afternoon baking treats with all your friends, and you want to focus on hosting and not constantly swatting at bugs, Zeevo has you covered with 24-7 bug protection. Plug in a Zivo flying insect trap so you can work smarter, not harder, and actually enjoy your time at home. If your fashion wish list lives rent-free in your brain, you need to be on Poshmark.
42:51With Poshmark, you're shopping millions of listings from thousands of closets, each curated by someone with their own style. Vintage finds, designer pieces, and everyday staples, all in one place.
43:03Ben Mandelker: Search for your favorites or let the discovery come to you. Poshmark makes it easy to find what you actually want to wear at prices that feel like a quiet win. Download the Poshmark app today and use code AUDIO10 when you sign up to get$10 off your first purchase.
43:21Ben Mandelker: So then Heather's like, everyone, everyone, I'm interrupting this stagnant scene to announce that I will be making some sangria. Does anyone want some sangria? Sangria, anyone? Raise your hand if you want sangria. Wait, what? What are you saying? Sangria. Why are you making fun of me? Wait, so you say son? Sangria? I think it's called sangria, okay? That's not what it's called. Stupid. It doesn't even know how to pronounce it. Sangria. This is stupid. What am I supposed to say? Sangria. That's how you say it, dum-dum. So you say it sangria. No. Okay. Who wants some sangria?
44:10Ben Mandelker: I've never heard. Now I can't even say it properly because I've got these two other bastardized ways like infecting my brain. Sangria. Sangria. But like the fact that she can't even say it. Sangria. But she can't even say it. Is this her company that she's trying to make? Is this like a sangria? See, now I'm going to say sangria. Is this a sangria mix that she's making? is this like a Heather Dubrow thing? I have to imagine, because why are you bringing it all the way down to Orange County in your own Dubrow bags? Like, she must be trying to be like, girls, I'm a fun time. Who wants to try my sangria?
44:50My sangria! Well, I didn't realize. Like, it's so weird. Carmella, come over here and talk to us. It's girl time. Like, I didn't understand how weird it was going to be meeting Deeney because, like, Deeney, like, we know a lot about Deeney. It's like, oh, yeah, Well, I mean, I feel guilty. I mean, I don't know. I shouldn't have even told you so, but you guys shouldn't ask me so many questions. Literally nobody asked you questions. You came in the first episode and were like, Danny cheated on me and I want to leave him, but he takes care of my kids.
45:21Ben Mandelker: Yeah, seriously. You've all achieved that. Yeah. And then Jen asked if things have been better since Vegas. And Carmela is saying, you know, like, well, I go back and forth. You know, like, it's a big thing to step up and to have your kids. And, like, sometimes I'm, like, so angry. and I had to let go of that, not just for him, but just for like me and my kids, you know? She says that her kids love Danny and that really helps because he's so good with the kids that it does like, it does sort of chip away at her resentment and everything. So Heather's like, ting, ting, ting, ting, ting. The sangria is here.
45:53Ben Mandelker: Who would like some sangria? Sangria, sangria. So Danny's like helping with the glasses and like, who, isn't this yummy? Isn't this of the people? All television's own Heather Dubrow bringing sangria to other friends. Oh, what have you got going on, Emily? Oh, really? Well, I probably her taste buds are backflipping. You say sangria. I say sangria. You say sangria. Heather, both of those are wrong. Like, this song is completely wrong. Okay, Emily, you talk about your exciting life. Okay. Speaking of somebody who's only staying with a man because of the child care, Emily, take it over. And Heather's like, hey, I thought that you had two times sex in a day with Shane.
46:44Ben Mandelker: Isn't that funny? Isn't this a funny thing to talk about over sangria? And Jen is like, you had sex two times a day, Emily? Two times? With Shane? Two times? Shane? That man that lives in your house? before and after dinner wow look at that wait carmela goes not even like eight hours in between oh god i really am not a good partner yeah but you know what else they need besides attention oh man they want gratitude like they want me to say oh thank you for taking out the trash thank you for taking care of the kids thank you for making dinner oh it's exhausting yeah you know who else likes gratitude?
47:25Ben Mandelker: Everybody. Everyone. I'm sure if we go back in the archives, we can see one of these awful Emily and Shane date nights where Emily's like, I just want you to just say thank you once in a while. I'm sure this is in the archives. I just don't have the tolerance to look it up. Well, everyone wants to be seen. Get back in the bushes, Alfredo. No one wants to look at you. Sorry, everybody. He's digesting. Thank you. Thank you, Alfredo. He's digesting right now. Nobody needs to be involved.
47:57Ben Mandelker: I'm going to get one of those famous Rancho Santa Fe hot dogs. Excuse me, everyone. God, I'm so fun today. So then Shannon, does she ever get one? Cause she just keeps saying, hot dogs. I love them. I shall get one. And then she just sits there.
48:22Ben Mandelker: Oh, sorry. that one went down the wrong pipe cuts alfredo coughing in the corner um
48:31so um okay so inside wait is it inside yeah we're in the kitchen well now we're inside and tamra's danny vicky and danny are standing around and tamra's like oh hey yeah danny well we're in horse candy you have to come out with that husband's not significant others And then it's Shannon. This loser Shannon. She's got nobody. It's so funny. We always have to ask for an extra chair.
48:56Ben Mandelker: The invitation everyone can't wait for. Getting to have a meal with Eddie. So Shannon's like, well, I guess there'll be a couple's dinner. And then I'll just be like some third wheel, fifth wheel, ninth wheel, twelfth wheel. Do I make the top 20 of the wheels? No matter the number, I'll tell you this. I'm the odd one. And it's, you know, I've just learned to accept it. But maybe you can find your last guy, Danny. Maybe I should have renamed my company Wheel for Wheels.
49:30Ben Mandelker: So, yeah, Shannon's like, I'm good right now. I don't need to date. I am obviously a very happy single person right now. I love being alone. You know what's great? When you are just a single wheel and you have no cart to attach it, just a wheel on its side. and you're waiting for someone to pick you up to be rolled around and you can't because no one wants to pick you up. You're just a wheel on its side and it's$10 ,000 a month rental. That's where I'm at right now. Yeah, that's me, Dad. But you should find her a guy. She's pathetic, but at least she gives blowjobs. I don't mean sexually. I just mean to start a car.
50:04That's how she has to start it.
50:08Ben Mandelker: So then outside, Carmella is complimenting Jen's body, saying she should be a swimsuit model and then danny brings carmella a drink and she's like thank you so much do i have a straw he's like i'll get you one because oh is that too much i'm sorry okay it's okay i'll give you a blow job later and her daughter is like right there and she's like mom sorry it was an inside joke honey sorry well i don't know how she went from thank you to a blow job but wow that was a whole different level can't wait to judge her next time so um five weeks except one moment, I mean, she said blowjob right in front of her daughter.
50:44Ben Mandelker: It just seems like she has no filter. Told you she was a terrible mother. I told you, I told you she was. So Vicky, back to Vicky, Shannon, I don't know, Vicky Tamra Shaman, Shaman. Okay, so now they're taking photos. There's like a little photo booth area and they're taking photos and Heather comes up and she's like, how fun. Okay, do you wanna take your picture, Heather? Yes, I would love to be in a picture. No, we already did it, you go alone. They like hit their limit of, I guess, how many photos they can be in. Unfortunately, we only took three of our three photos. So it's just got to be.
51:18Ben Mandelker: Heather's like, I don't want to take a picture by myself. Who am I? Wendy Malick on a red carpet trying to be friends with people. So Vicky's like, but you do love taking pictures of yourself. What am I, Wendy Malick and a Popeyes? Not even bothering with the delicious sandwiches because she's too busy trying to get a photo of herself alone. yeah um so they're like whatever we have to do it to yourself nobody wants to take a picture with heather and so heather walks away and she's her feelings are all hurt because they're clearly being dicks to her on purpose but they do show that they show they do show like like you do like to take photos alone and they do show a picture of heather at the at the showgirl boot camp and she's taking a photo alone She's like, okay, this one.
52:06Ben Mandelker: And one more. Okay. From the side. Okay. Let's go for a fifth time. Great. All right. Now I've got seven more poses. Are you ready? Yeah. But that's different when you're like at a specialized costume place getting a picture done than it is when you walk up to a group of your friends and like, no, we already took a picture. I know. That's crazy. How would you ever say no to someone? It's wild. It's really fun because they're trying very hard to piss Heather off. And they've been trying for a few episodes now. And Heather is just not giving into them. She's like, okay, I will not be mean to servers.
52:42So thank you so much for everything you've done for us this evening. Unfortunately, I don't believe I ordered this. But if I'm incorrect, I'm willing to pay for a difference.
52:55Ben Mandelker: She has bitten her tongue all season. I've noticed that. She keeps on saying, I will take that note. I will take that note. And I'm like, oh. She's not taking that note. And she is going to throw a plate at Alfredo when she gets home. She's so angry. I hear you. Your feelings are valid. Am I saying the correct things? I love getting some quote unquote feedback from Emily and Gina, who really have so much world experience on everything. Yes, I will take that note. Uh, so Tamara and Vicki and Shannon are like, oh, we're going to have a party. It's almost Vicki's birthday. She's like, oh, I'm almost on Medicare.
53:42We're going to whoop it up. Who do I got to whoop it up to? Woohoo right here. Blah. And Heather is telling Emily, well, the three Amiga, the traits Amigas are being a little odd today. Are they excluding you? Oh, I can't wait to tell them you said that in about five seconds.
53:58Ben Mandelker: And Heather is like, well, they were taking pictures and I was walking by and they go, come take a picture take a picture by yourself and i go i don't want to take a picture by myself that's a great story out there so then um and you're coming to the wrong person for sympathy you don't realize that emily has been the one riling everybody up against you for the entire episode and now it's working so emily's just sitting there happily she's not gonna intervene on your behalf and then this was definitely something a little easter egg for the audience Vicky and Shannon Sit down on like She's lounges Basically They're exterior chairs But Shannon still has Like her sandals on And because Don't put your shoes On furniture It's like Oh I guess someone Has been taking Getting some lessons From their son-in-law Like a mother Like son-in-law So now Tamara's asking Carmella If she had fun In Vegas And They You know She said yes But she's trying to get her to say she's mad at vicky or whatever you know so finally tamara's like i remember when heather was like stand down oh that was so scary she said i was so scared of heather but everybody was scared i was pretty scared it was so creative it scared me yeah and emily is like yeah that was like a lot and heather goes well yes that was loud that was loud and emily's like i just feel like maybe we need to back up and maybe just kind of like talk about vegas more than just that one isolated incident oh good here we go let me buckle in poor people feelings about heather here we go wow this would be much better if i had my good friend here betty white betty white betty white i just want you to know that i do offer complimentary handy wipes for the poor person suggestion box that you're about to put a deposit into so uh heather is like so tell me uh i would love to hear what you have to say to me about vegas well you're being sarcastic no no i'm i'm good listen even though i have been trained in the world of sitcoms and i am an official groundling um i i am able to take things seriously okay well i just you know after vegas i was feeling irritated why well it's it's like i need to like sit at the center of the table or i need to be the first person that walks in i never sit at the center of the table what what that's crazy yeah but you walk in first walking in first every time we're in a group thing you always push me behind you no no that's not true ask victoria who walks in first heather heather walks in first Told you.
56:51Ben Mandelker: She says, all I care about is the good light. Why in the world would I, television's Heather Dubrow, want to be seen centered amongst the poors? That's just not my brand. Listen, I would stand behind you if the sun were out or I needed shade. You're like a giant tree stump. Otherwise, why would I do that? so vicky's like i like heather more today than the other day because like i love her mother and she's like a product of her mother and i just want to like know why she like brought sangria mix to the school party so then uh tamar's like what do you think nothing oh financial advice here's the thing we love you but sometimes you're a lot i think that's so insulting and so condescending to say you're a lot especially when you're coming from tamra and heather's like taking the note, taking the note, taking the note.
57:50And it bothers you that I'm a lot. What was irritating? Yeah, you know what? It bothers a few people. Yeah, it's a few people. We won't talk about it. Everybody's super bothered by aggressive behavior. It's like, okay, well, guess what? I'll have to watch that. But guess what again? There are people that fucking love how much I am. They're called the Dubrosnicks. It's a whole fan club of people all across the world. They have something called the internet and they write me on it often. Alfredo's told me about it and it sounds wonderful.
58:25Ben Mandelker: I guess we'll just have to bring this up with Richard Marx. Am I being too much when I trap him in my basement and make him sing Right Here Waiting? I don't think so. So then Heather tells us, Emily is very frustrating to me because the things that she accuses me of, I think are the things that she does on the regular that I don't complain about. She's often in the middle of the photo. She's often in the middle of the table sitting there. She often walks ahead of me. And while Heather says this, they do such a massive montage of photos as all Emily in the center. And like, they're like, it was like 50 photos back to back to back.
59:05Ben Mandelker: And it's like, Emily, Emily, Emily, Emily. I was like, oh, I kind of feel like Heather got Emily on this one. She did. And also the editors are getting Emily over and over again. I like that the editors are calling Emily out on her bullshit in a way, you know, because earlier when she was saying some bullshit, the editor, like, she called me aggressive. And then they showed her yelling and screaming. And then this one, she's like, I'm never in the middle. They prove her wrong. So the casting people, the network, whoever is keeping Emily. But the editors are like, please trash. Please trash. thank you yeah so then shannon and vicky are like shannon's like well i'm grateful we're sitting over here in peace this is the old lady section rope it off and vicky's like yeah i just you know what you know i want to learn how to do is to dance this is all i know and she starts going cha-cha cha-cha i think that ship has sailed vicky the dance ship is done so carmella um comes to sit with them and um vicky's like oh we had an opportunity to talk to uh barry poppets i'd be Daddy.
1:00:08Sorry, Daddy McPhee? Daddy McPhee? What do we call him? Oh, he's so sweet with your kids. We saw that. And they love him. But I wanted to talk to you without being in front of everybody because I came home from Vegas and I was very heavy-hearted, Vicki. It was very heavy. I appreciate your apology, but I just want to make sure we're good. You know, do you feel like you went too far? Do you really have those thoughts about me? Well, it just didn't make sense to me. You know, it doesn't really matter. It's not my choice to have it make sense. You know, Did you know that hamsters eat their babies?
1:00:38I wouldn't eat my baby, but sometimes hamsters do it.
1:00:42Ben Mandelker: But they also get quite a good amount of exercise on those wheels, I'd like to point out. Well, there you go. So you know what? You're a hamster of a human. And I've just had to learn that that's okay. You're a hamster in a string bikini with nudie pictures all over the internet. But, you know. But you know what? Even hamsters can be sluts. So Shannon's like, but you never mom shamed her. that's the most important thing, right? She's like, no, no, I never mom shamed you. But it could have been perceived that way, but it wasn't your intention, right? No, no, no, of course not. Look, it just didn't make sense to me.
1:01:17Ben Mandelker: I mean, if you want to live in Corona Del Mar, live in Corona Del Mar. If you want to live in Slotsville, live in Slotsville. I don't get it, but it's like your life, whatever. Like, you can't walk away thinking I was like mom shaming you because that was like never my intent. I wasn't trying to mom shame you. I was just trying to just generally like life shame you. I was more feeling shame up for your children who don't have a mother. Does that make any sense? Okay, good. I'm glad we had this talk. So Carmella's like, well, I hope she's genuine in her apology. I mean, whatever. So I'm back to Emily.
1:01:45She's like, you know, Victoria's being shitty to Carmella right now. You just know it. And then, you know, when she was shitty in Vegas, then you just dropped from the ceiling and all of a sudden you're in the middle of it. Gina's like, oh, my God. It was like Mission Impossible.
1:02:00Ben Mandelker: I don't even know what happened. And you were like so aggressive. And I was like, what just happened? And then that's what bothers me that I feel like. Yeah. Like, think about it because last year you said, I don't like that. My dad did that. And we see a flashback to last year when Tamara always knows exactly how to bring in, like, the family trauma. You're bringing up the dead dad, Tamara. And we see the flashback. And Heather's like, the reason that it affects me when you have public outbursts is because it reminds me of trauma with my father who would have public outbursts. and it's like tamra's response says yeah but i don't have family outbursts i don't have outbursts with my family in public oh my god so now tamra's saying basically you had a public outbursts just like your father did and heather's like really don't bring my dad into it she's like but you brought your dad into it so they're like that's a little different but last year you brought your dad i was like you know you're being aggressive and i'm supposed to just sit back and go like oh yeah no no hypocrite she can't take her own medicine heather was ending a situation aggressive i think sort of implies like i think the aggression that they're talking about is like heather starts up something comes at someone really hard in this case vicky was you know it's vicky and you know with vicky you just kind of have to give a loud reproach and so to me it really that's you know some sure rebranded as aggression but I think they all know this was not an aggressive moment in that way she just said this is Tamara being upset because Heather started the season you know with I like Tamara but I put her in a box and I know who Tamara is and I accept her for who she is and that turned into oh she put me in a box and I'm really my friend and then Tamara puts that in her craw and she sticks with that until she can get everybody to go against you and of course emily's been there too because emily got into an argument with heather and so now it's they're just going to keep coming for her over and over until they break her no one really thinks that heather is anything similar to tamra tamra loses her shit curses everybody out screams in public leaves she quit the show like three times on camera like no one is going to even ever accuse heather of doing the same thing and they fucking know it they're just trying they're just trying you know they're trying and heather doesn't give it to him she's like well thank you very much for your opinions and i have listened to them and then vicky uh vicky gets to do the thing that the audience is trying to ask because like do you matter if i live like can we come with you no we've been wanting you to go all season just go so she's like well it's my birthday party tonight lakita so i have to go it's like two and a half hours to get home.
1:04:56Jesus, it's going to take me two hours and 45 minutes, and my party starts at 7, and I'm going to be there at 7 to 40. So, love you guys.
1:05:03Ben Mandelker: So, she's like, bye. And so, Gina's like, I think that's, like, salute of Vicky. Like, we came all the way over here. Like, I don't even know where the fuck we are, but, like, we're, like, far away from home, and, like, you double booked it. Like, just, like, be here. I think she was here, and she realized I should probably book something else so I can get out of here right now. Yeah, this is one of the more boring parties that we've sat through. And that's saying something on this show. So she leaves. She's walked out by Carmela. And it's nice. You know, Vicky fakes it all the way out the door, which is impressive.
1:05:36And then back to Emily and Heather. Emily, or Heather's just like, so do you feel like I heard you? Oh, do you feel like, do I, do, do you feel like you heard me? Do you feel like you heard me? Sorry. I definitely heard you. I definitely heard it.
1:05:56Ben Mandelker: noted loud and clear written down tattooing it check the box check the box yes and so then jones like oh it's really fun to meet danny that was so nice i was surprised he didn't try to cheat on you with us right right there on the spot he's like yeah do you worry about him when he's not around you she's like well i think the honest answer is yes but i mean it's like not like he's going out at night but i mean people don't have to go out at night to cheat either you know what i'm saying Yeah, so they're talking about whether they have passcodes for their partner's phones. And Gina says that her ex would save the mistress under a different name to hide it.
1:06:32And for a long time, she thought the guy was fucking Don Knotts. Crazy. Heather's like, oh, it's a classic.
1:06:39Ben Mandelker: Well, do you guys know that when my ex and I got back together, we did Friday lunches. and he got up to go to the restroom and my heart was pounding because my salmon was on the way mainly. And I was like, oh God, it's Friday lunch. I've been waiting all week. And then I knew what her number was. So I put it in and it said a fake name and the texts seemed like they had gotten back together. And so let's just say that was one Friday lunch that did not go down easy. Friday lunch. And that's why I still remember phone numbers. You never know when you're just gonna need to whip him out at lunch. There you go, girls.
1:07:18Ben Mandelker: Unfortunately, he never came back from the bathroom, and I later found out he was walking along the beach with that slut while I was waiting for my salmon.
1:07:26And Carmella's saying, yeah, and then they flipped the script and act like, why would you even think that about me? Like, gaslighting us. Like, I'm the crazy one for being paranoid about it. And so she says, you know, when somebody makes you feel crazy, you can't even trust your own intuition. and Emily's like, wow, I really need to go home and have sex with Shane. Can't wait. Give us all the updates. What a moral to the end of this story. Jeez. Yeah, seriously. So that's that one. That's it. That's where it ends. Wow. Two solid hours of talking about this absolute shit season. Got it. Nothing happened.
1:08:06Thank you for making it though, you know, because it's fun to talk about it.
1:08:10Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it looks like we made it. Thanks everyone for being here. You're all such gems And we'll catch you on the next episode Bye everyone Bye
1:08:42Ben Mandelker: She don't miss no trick-a-less. Holly Nagila Weber. You'll never hide from Heidi Eleanor Jones. It's no BS. We love Hugo ES. Jamie, she has no last naming. Sips some scotch with Jessica Trotch. She's our pal-a-ger. It's Karen Gallagher. She's our favorite streamer, Caroline Peacock. Kristen the Piston Anderson. Let's give a kiss-a-rino to Lisa Lino. Fresh as a daisy is Maisie McHenry. Come again? We're obsessed with Margaret O 'Halloran. Megan Berg. You can't have a burger without the Berg. This is Livin' with Michelle Vivian. I love-a-ya, Olivia Williamson. She's the lady of the house. It's Rachel Sherouse.
1:09:24She sure is swell. It's Raquel. Yes, we canna. It's Sadana.
1:09:28Ben Mandelker: Cast a spell with Shannon Spellman. Let's share with Sharon Eldridge. Darn skippy. It's tippy. And our super premium sponsors. She's VVIP. It's Amanda V. Somebody get us 10 cc's of Betsy MD We're taking the gold with Brenda Silva Let's get real with Caitlin O 'Neill Put us on a stretcher, it's Charlotte Fletcher Don't get salty with Christine Pepper Can't have a meal without the Emily Sides Who, what, why, where, and Gwen Pentland Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall We got our wish, it's Jen Plish My favorite Murdo, Karen McMurdo Let's get savage with Laura Wildman In the study, with a candlestick, it's Leslie Peacock.
1:10:11Ben Mandelker: We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder Barron. She's a whiz, it's Liz Sarthy. Always killing it, it's Lola Alkalani. Roger that, it's Marlis Rogers. The incredible edible Matthews sisters. She eases our woes, it's Melissa St. Rose. There's a chance of meatballs, it's Rebecca Cloud. She's our princess, it's Rebecca Prince. She's the queen bee, it's Sarah Lemke. We cannot tell a lie, it's Sarah Talafson. Shannon out of a can and Anthony Please don't stop at Soli and Pop Let's take off with Tam LaPlane Strike a pose it's Tori Rose She ain't no shrinking Violet Kuchar We love you guys This episode is sponsored by Nature Raised Farms There are so many complicated things on Bravo Like opening the front door on Summer House Or figuring out how to wear a Linfinity dress Or understanding Tom Schwartz's purpose on the valley In a world full of confusing choices, thank goodness for Nature Raised Farms.
1:11:10Ben Mandelker: They believe that food shouldn't be complicated. Especially chicken. But the freezer aisle often makes it that way. Too many options, too many additives, too many compromises. Do I like complicated chicken? No. No. Chicken should be fun. Complicated chicken, not fun. Chicken should meet a higher standard. And Nature Raised Farms is free from gluten, dairy, and soy. There are no seed oils and no artificial ingredients. Also, Nature Raised Farms Chicken is a good source of fiber and only between 8 to 12 grams of fat per serving dependent on the product. Chicken, that's just chicken. When food is that simple, there's a quiet joy in it.
1:11:48Ben Mandelker: And we love quiet joy. Like the moment Erika Jayne puts down her microphone. Keep your life simple with your new favorite chicken. Nature Raised Farms Chicken. Because chicken shouldn't be complicated. You know that feeling when too many things fall through the cracks? Monday.com was built for that gap. The AI work platform where people and agents work side by side to deliver more together. Create your first Monday agent today at Monday.com. Your team just added its 67th AI tool and also your 67th security blind spot. The good news? The Vanta agent works like a GRC engineer in the background, finding every app your team uses, scoring the risk, and drafting fixes for you.
1:12:31Vanta is the platform used by over 16 ,000 fast-moving companies like Ramp, Cursor, and Harvey, who are shaping the future with AI and staying ahead of AI risk. Get started at Vanta.com.
This is part 2 of a 2-part recap
Carmella hosts a RIVETING party on The Real Housewives of Orange County where the women eat hot dogs, drink SONGria, and try to make Heather feel bad about walking ahead of them. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens.
Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.