#3533 Next Gen NYC S2E012 Part Two: Love ‘Em and Liam

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1:58Ronnie Karam: Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Happens. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show.

2:16Ben Mandelker: So now Ariana's going to once again make a proclamation about herself. I don't think I'm the same person that I was when Hudson and I broke up or when he left New York. I'm like, it's been three months. you do not get to make these proclamations this quickly unless you went on to Survivor or something like that you've just been doing the same thing you've been doing since you broke up with Hudson, like nothing has changed

2:38Ronnie Karam: yeah, and so she says she's really evolved and he's like, well, I really didn't expect it to be you and Liam I figured it would be Charlie before Liam and she's like, oh no, I'm just good friends with Charlie, but whatever hey, by the way, do you want to come to my New Beginnings party? it'd be good for you since you know cut off you're gonna have to make a new beginning without me and he's like i love you so much she's giving her those eyes like oh you think that you're dating someone else but you know it's always coming back to me my little precious i have a billion dollars my lambo caught on fire i don't even care

3:21Ben Mandelker: now Ava's FaceTiming with Amira and Amira's like I think I threw up so hard I broke every blood vessel in my face because basically Amira's saying that she will not be going to the New Beginnings party and because she's sick and we know she's sick because she's taking this big poofy comforter and like wrapped it around her face she basically looks like she's in a papoose she's just like fully wrapped in it and she looks so cozy she's like yeah I'm sick, but I'm also serving high fashion at the same time. Duvet high fashion, that is. So I can't go. But I know it's going to be tea, and I wish I was there.

3:55Ronnie Karam: Liam Kendall and Jackson are on the way to the party. And Liam's like, yeah, you know, the other night at Shia's thing, I was in a little mood, I guess. They want to go to Charlie's to smoke a joint again. And I was like, I'm not going to that. I've got better things to do. Breath exercises. Brushing my toothpaste. I mean, brushing my teeth without an actual toothbrush just to see if I could still get the improv down right. You know, stuff like that. So it's pretty important. Building a huge sink. I really worked. Building a sink. Walking upstairs that weren't there. You know, mimory is really more important than you guys understand.

4:36Ronnie Karam: You know, everything is green screen now.

4:40Ben Mandelker: It's a thing. So Ariana is, I'm sorry. he's talking about like like about how Ava and Shy made out and Kendall's like are you serious so then we go over to Rowan's apartment where Brooks and Riley and Rowan are there Rowan's apartment is so cozy I'm not sure is this Rowan's apartment or where she this is just I think this is just her home this is where Brooke Shields this is like she lives with her parents but they have like a really kind of like Nancy Myers kind of house and it's very cozy nice in there and Rowan is like so I went over to Ava's to make gingerbread houses and she was like I kiss shy and I was like what I didn't hear that because I was packing my house to go but apparently she kissed shy and I was like wait really Brooks like seriously I'm just shuck

5:31Ronnie Karam: Ava talks to her dad Damon and tells him that she made out with shy and he's like you know you made his whole life you know that right I mean shy wow you really need to ask questions And so before anyone puts their mouths on you, everybody has herpes.

5:47Ben Mandelker: You have to say, do you have herpes? Point fucking blank, okay? Just, that's how you do it. She's like, oh, dad.

5:59Ronnie Karam: So then back in the car with Liam, Candle's like, how's the whole Charlie sit? She's like, oh, that's her friend. I'm not trying to be her friend. You know, I'm trying to be her fucking man. So if you want to have shitty friends, have shitty friends. Why do I care? At the end of the day, you're coming home to me.

6:15Ben Mandelker: Yeah, that's right. Real man over here. Fatten fires Lake George. Building Ikea dresses. Reshooting the beginning of Carrera. So that way I can get more film festivals. That's right. The new beginnings are literally about Carrera. Yeah, keep going to Charlie's house.

6:30Ronnie Karam: You can't smoke an Allen wrench. That's how I put her closet together. So good luck with that one, wifey.

6:36Ben Mandelker: You could either deal with a tool or you could deal with a man who knows how to put on a flannel and hug a girl in a gas station and send her off in a car. That's the real man.

6:47Ronnie Karam: Jackson's like, how old are you? It's like 29. And do you want to deal with this bullshit forever? Because this is 24-year-old bullshit. And we should be on 29-year-old bullshit now.

6:59Ben Mandelker: That's right. Which is why I will throw a lemon in your face soon. So Kendall's like, Jackson and I have known Liam since we were kids. Jackson brings the tough love always. Thanks, Kendall. So Kendall Jackson's like I feel like you're just not taking care of yourself I feel like you're putting all your eggs in this basket I feel like you have to Do the right thing Blink, blink, blink, blink Liam's like Liam's like Yeah, no, it's gonna be there I'm not gonna be all over her Like, I'll let her have her fun I'll let her talk to her people Let's see what happens, you know Big dick energy over here I'm just gonna be chill like I was around Mariska.

7:42Ben Mandelker: Okay, let the ladies come to me.

7:46Ronnie Karam: So Charlie's like, I mean, Hudson doesn't really need to know what's going on with us, but I'm going to tell him to his face. And with Liam, like, there's not much that needs to be said. I mean, I don't think he's an idiot. I mean, well, I don't know. I don't really know what he is, actually. We'll see.

8:03Ben Mandelker: So now we're at the New Beginnings party. And Shai's like, I'm like excited for this party. shy's always sitting forward like he's he's always sitting forward as as if he's on a gondola that's about to go under a bridge he's like i'm really excited for this party but like you know like after a kiss you'd be like all right but like a bit more confident but it's like i'm just like so nervous around this girl you know oh man i'm shy um and then ariana is telling shy she kissed

8:32Ronnie Karam: Ava before him. And then Charlie comes and finds them all at a booth and Ava's like, my agents are here. I'm going to go say hi. So then Charlie asks Ariana. Hudson was like, should I come tonight? And I was like, yeah, but I don't know if he's going to. She's like, well, we obviously went to lunch earlier and it was weird as fuck. And he said, I thought you and Charlie would date before you and Liam. And he's like, yeah. Part of me thinks he would deep down prefer that. Let's do it for him. Mariana, let's do it for us.

9:03Ben Mandelker: What would Jesus do? What would Jesus do in this situation? So Brooks, Rowan, and Riley arrive, and Rowan introduces Shai to her younger sister Greer, who we may have met at the top of the season, but I don't know why they hid this entire relationship between Rowan and Greer all season long, because we get a little snippet of it right now, and it is so good that I'm furious that they kept this amazing ginger on ginger sibling rivalry away from us

9:37Ronnie Karam: yeah it's pretty good career's like shut up stupid you're dumb

9:44Ronnie Karam: there's these two redheads and one of them is just so mean and rowan's just like well i'm trying she's trying to be nice to her sister and her sister's like you're an idiot order your own food because i'm not sharing i haven't eaten all day so can i have one of your meatballs like no that's why i told you to get your own fucking knee paws you dummy oh yes i wish we we better

10:05Ben Mandelker: get that next season i want more rowan and greer because um i don't know if you ever remember this show that was on mtv in like 2007 called eighth and ocean and it was it was like the hills except it took place in miami about models and there was a set of twin models on it and one had acne so she never was booking gigs and one didn't have acne so she was always booking gigs but then the girl with the act the sister with the acne finally like started taking medication and then she started booking more gigs than her sister and they had so many conflicts but it was so great like the sisterly conflict the it was just so entertaining and i feel like we could tap into that with these

10:41Ronnie Karam: two sisters yeah this is pretty good so uh rowan introduces shy to greer and uh shy is like oh wow you really look similar. And Greer goes, oh, does that make you feel good, Rowan? Thanks for making Shy feel good.

10:59Ben Mandelker: I missed that line.

11:02Ronnie Karam: She's like, thanks for making Rowan feel good, Shy. Does that make you feel good, Rowan? She goes, no, does it make you feel good? I mean, now you have a boost of confidence? Good one. I said it first, though.

11:14Ben Mandelker: Stupid. He goes, was that passive aggressive or super supportive? I can't tell. This is crazy. I don't know. And Greer's like it was passive I was like yeah never supportive

11:24Ronnie Karam: Yeah she's never supportive We're like polar opposites And this is where we see them at dinner And she's like well I mean I do love her But we may not always show it You love me too right Greer Greer's like I hope you die I've always hoped that you were dying If we were on top of a building right now I'd push you off If we were in a pool right now I'd hold you under

11:45Ben Mandelker: Give us more If I could order anything off the menu right now

11:48Ronnie Karam: It would be cyanide for you

11:50Ben Mandelker: she's so mad it was so mad that she wanted to have her own meatball um so Georgia and Gia arrive and Gia's like how are you feeling and Georgia's like I had strep I still have to you know you know what I mean like I've just I've been like spitting you know what I mean just like spitting you gotta get it out you know just gotta like spit just gotta spit and get it out

12:18Ronnie Karam: and Brooks is like But what? What do you mean? She's like, spitting. And she goes, mucus. And he's like, oh, I thought you were talking about resolving your stuff with Charlie. No, I'm talking about spitting. No, I'm talking about spitting.

12:36Ronnie Karam: I'm a spitting literalist. They asked Georgia what it's like seeing Charlie now. She's like, I mean, you get older and you realize even peace is better than war, you know? And I'm good with everyone right now. Even Riley and I reached the Cotskills piece today. Like, we're fine.

12:53Ben Mandelker: We see a flashback that they both agreed that they were miscommunicating a lot and that they were just going to be cool. And Riley goes, I'll even shake your hand, which is a big deal. And George is like, really? So they shook. And so they're in a better place. And Riley is just basically like, yeah, we're going to keep it cordial. We'll never be like, oh, let's get dinner. But, you know, it will be nice. We'll be cordial. so Liam Kendall and Jackson arrive and Liam and Ariana go to the bar to talk about things yeah

13:26Ronnie Karam: he's like that was your day oh I don't know I mean I saw Hudson but like you know I don't know I'm just not expecting all this in my life at the same time you know like I didn't expect you to come into my world when you did he's like Charlie Hudson tomato tomato you know you had a dream your dream was me your dream standing here you won congrats and she's like well i mean i mean it's just me and we see jackson watching this from afar she's like look i'm just not at the place that you want me to be at he's like well i know that i mean we're not in sundance but we could be in you know chicago there are other film festivals

14:09Ben Mandelker: Los Angeles Film Festival very acclaimed and so she's like she's like no I just want to make sure that like you understand this and then all of a sudden something hits Liam in the face bro bro and it turns out that Jackson has thrown a lemon at his face thank you Jackson

14:30Ronnie Karam: he's like why'd you throw an ice cube at my face he's like it was a lemon bro why'd you throw a fucking lemon in my face what was that what are you doing because jackson doesn't know he's getting dumped you know jackson's just like uh you're getting too close i'm trying to give him the signal so jackson yeah we had a conversation if you saw me hovering and you see me being too much pull me out but god it was never was throwing a lemon in my eye disgust jackson had great aim

14:59Ben Mandelker: and also i just have to say i love when liam's like you threw a fucking lemon at my face and And Jackson goes, are you serious? As if like what he did was a perfectly normal thing to do. Of course I'm going to throw a lemon in your face.

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18:47Ben Mandelker: Which is funny. Every time they talk about these kids getting into a fight, not a single one of the people on this cast has raised fisticuffs against anyone else. I'm telling you that right now. Yeah, nor should they.

18:58Ronnie Karam: I don't think they'd know what to do. Turn into a big, like, slappy fight. So Hudson tells Riley, he's like, oh, hey, Riley, miss removed me from the group chat. What's going on? She's like, I'd do it again. So are you going to respect the fact that I got your girl or your ex-girl or what? And he's like, well, it looks like Ava's got her now on the beginning of a new era.

19:25Ben Mandelker: So Charlie's like, hey Hudson, what's good boss? He's like, hey, how you doing brother? He's like, come yap with me for a sec. So they're going to go have a talk. And so Charlie's like, so there's been this narrative of Ariana and I flirting. I don't know who started it. I guess maybe I did, but people have been really running with it. I don't know why people are running with it. I keep on telling people it, but I don't know why they're running with it. But anyway, this is narrative and I just want to let you know about it.

19:51Ronnie Karam: And Charlie's like, yeah, I want you to hear it from me before somebody else. Meanwhile, Ariana's still dumping Liam over in the other area. And Liam's like, wait, do you still want to be friends with him or do you want to be more than friends with him? What are you saying? It's like, yeah, I don't want to be in a pick and choose situation is the thing, you know. I don't want to lie to you either. And Liam's just like, oh my God, I'm getting dumped on a season finale. Oh, Jesus. this. My mother is never going to let this go.

20:20Ben Mandelker: So Hudson is meanwhile saying, Ariana always comes off that way around and when she talks to you, you know, real flirty type, you know? And I'm like, you're just too nice. You understand? Like every guy takes that as flirting. I'm like, you were begging for her to hold your hand. You're like, wow, look at that flirt. Holding the hand of her ex, really leading him on. So

20:39Ronnie Karam: yeah, but the guy she's flirting with Hudson's like, oh, she's just like that with everybody. She actually does want to flirt with those guys. She actually is flirting. Sorry, Hudson. Sorry. He's like, don't get too excited because Ariana's just a flirt. She's been seeing both the guys.

20:58Ben Mandelker: She's allowed to actually explore the options of the guys that she's interested in.

21:02Ronnie Karam: Of course. For him to be like, yeah, sorry, she's just flirty. She's just too nice. No, she's actually flirting.

21:12Ben Mandelker: He's saying she's such a flirt. It's a flaw. And we're saying, it's a feature. So Brooks and Riley and Ava are spying on Ariana and Liam. And we see Liam and he's like, I'm not going to tell you to pick and choose, but I don't know. If I were you, I'd be less like Sundance and more like my mom. Not rejecting, but accepting. You hear what I'm saying here, Ariana? She's like, yeah. look she's like I'm not gonna go fuck Charlie just so we're clear so don't worry about that

21:51Ronnie Karam: so then Hudson's like whoa does anybody see Liam anywhere where's Ariana like I don't have my glasses I can't really see anybody I didn't want to look like a nerd today so Kendall's like obviously I feel bad for Liam but Ariana juggling Liam Charlie and Hudson like she needs to teach me her ways cause this is amazing

22:14Ben Mandelker: so um uh then hudson uh goes over to liam and shy at the bar and that's because this is liam and excuse me liam and ariana have i'm getting choked up it's such an emotional scene i'm but liam and ariana have finished their conversation so hudson goes up to liam he's like hey so the conversation we had that first night that we met has been a little disregarded bro and liam's like yeah it's like you don't get them go make laws and rules for

22:41Ronnie Karam: people that you don't even know. Isn't that crazy? Yeah.

22:44Ben Mandelker: Yeah, exactly. In cities that you don't even live in. So Liam's like, yeah, I heard what you were saying, but the relationship was over, so sorry, bro, actor come in.

22:54Ronnie Karam: He's like, well, I guess that was a sign for you to go ahead and fuck my ex then. He's like, well, I wasn't waiting for a go-ahead from you. He's like, well, I'm not gonna fucking sit here and let myself be a bitch. Then go away. This is none of your business. You got broken up with. Your girlfriend started dating somebody else. Bye.

23:12Ben Mandelker: Yeah, sorry, bro. So Shai's like, and Shai's like in the middle of them talking and he's just staring without blinking into a void because he feels awkward. He's like, this is the last place I want to be. So I'm like trying to find like a happy place. Like in my happy place, the supermarket, in the cereal aisle, Special K, Captain Crunch. Those are my favorite, like mini marshmallows too. Hey, Georgia, what are you doing here? There is such a breadth of selection of cereals in your happy place. I'm like so impressed I'm coming up with a serial

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23:56Ronnie Karam: so Hudson is still talking to Liam and he's like okay well I'm glad you get along you know and I hope you're taking care of her because she's a pretty special girl he's like yeah she really is special meanwhile Liam just got dumped by the way I like that he didn't back down so now Hudson has to back down and Shai's like yeah I'm gonna go find Ava so bye guys this is awkward so Liam's like by the way how do you deal with all this bullshit with Charlie he's like I mean what the fuck are you gonna do it's fucking Charlie I know Ariana's not gonna go there what do I care yeah I believe that too alright well at least we can agree on something now we can team up on just two guys that still aren't dating Ariana but that hate Charlie don't want them to

24:38Ben Mandelker: deal bro you know i'm gonna give liam some credit i thought he handled hudson very well because hudson was hudson is a jackass and he came in trying to like like swing that big stick around and liam's like no bro and it worked yeah i think hudson's used to being able to do that

24:57Ronnie Karam: because he's a billionaire but these kids are also like rich so they don't really care it's like i I may not be a billionaire, but my mom knows. My mom started Nickelodeon, or she made Nickelodeon big. My mom knows Nick of Nickelodeon.

25:16Ben Mandelker: So Shai finds Ava, and he's like, well, everyone's coming over and being like, oh my god, what happened the other night? And I'm like, how does everyone know already? You've been going around? She goes like, it's me. She goes, my dad says that one in three people have herpes, by the way. He says I should ask the question before I decide to kiss anyone. He's like, uh, I mean, I don't have herpes. You told your dad that we kissed? She's like, yeah. He's like, that's cute.

25:39Ronnie Karam: She's like, yeah, he'll probably be calling you later to ask you to borrow some money. Just go with it. So now they're going to go party at Cowgirl Seahorse. So is this cowgirl in the village that they've redone to be something else?

25:57Ben Mandelker: I'm looking up right now. Cowgirl Seahorse. It looks really cute in there. Oh, it's very close to South Street Seaport. It's on Front Street. I'm thinking of Cowgirl. It's right by the Brooklyn Bridge. Oh, my God. How trendy. It's a bar underneath the Brooklyn Bridge. Yas.

26:16Ronnie Karam: Oh, yeah. I was thinking of Cowgirl in the village. We went there with your friends once, but that's an old classic.

26:21Ben Mandelker: That was so fun that night. That was a great night.

26:23Ronnie Karam: They've got a great black bean burger over there. Love you, Cowgirl.

26:27Ben Mandelker: That was a fun time. Well, maybe this is like a second location. It's like the seahorse.

26:34Ronnie Karam: Oh, maybe. Because it looks similar inside. Anyway, that does not matter. Okay, I was just hungry for a black bean burger. It's great. So they're kind of walking in different little groups, and Charlie tells Ariana to stay back so they can yap. And he's like, wow, alone at last.

26:53Ronnie Karam: So he's like, yeah, I told him, I'd rather you hear it from me. And I think it's fine. I mean, it would be fake if he just, like, dap you and, like, pretend like everything was, like, normal. like obviously like ariana and i are like talking and then he respected that and he was chill with

27:06Ben Mandelker: it so she's like i don't think anyone respects it okay i don't think i don't think he respects it at all and then meanwhile liam um is he's walking with like gia and brooks i believe and um he's like he's going through it you know and they're trying to cheer him up and he's like you know he's he's saying well you know ariana said that she wouldn't touch charlie with a with a 10-foot poll everyone loves bringing up that quote because she said that at bravo con and then we go back to charlie and ariana he's like i mean do you want us to be limited to just friends or more and she's like well i was trying to be respectful but that's like not really where i'm at and i don't want to set that boundary with you necessarily and then he just goes right in for a kiss and then she kisses back they're just like making that right there underneath the brooklyn bridge right by south Street Seaport.

27:55Ben Mandelker: And I was like, oh my God, because they showed in the preview for this week that he goes in with a kiss, but I just assumed it was a classic Bravo fake out where he was going to go reach down and get his phone and then it was not a kiss at all. But it was an actual kiss and it was very cinematic to me because I feel like this doesn't really happen in real life. It felt like they were reciting movie dialogue and then he kissed her unless of course this was all completely produced but um i definitely was like oh it's happening yeah it wasn't real it was a tv show on bravo it was a reality show like i can't believe i can't believe they recited romantic lines and then made out on a show that had producers following their every steps that

28:43Ronnie Karam: has been trying to push this romantic thing the whole time but ariana is like wow he's absolutely forbidden fruit, like from the Bible. Wow. I already said I wouldn't touch him with the 10-foot pole. How much forbidden fruit does it get? The 10-foot pole was in Philippines. 9.4. Why did I pick that book of the Bible? Is it Philippines? I don't know. The book of the Bible. Philippians. Philippians. Awesome Bible people. Philippians. Philippians.

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31:33Ben Mandelker: slash wwc so ariana and charlie head to the bar and she's like oh you're the devil on my shoulder and they put a little devil a little charlie devil on her shoulder and um so then she's like yeah i said this thing about forbidden fruit so now over at cowgirl seahorse i love this little scene because this whole group has now crowded into this little bar and they've got all the tables they got all the chairs and it like there was something about this cast all crammed around these little tables in these wooden chairs that was so identifiable about hanging out with a group of friends in your 20s and going to a bar i don't know there's something about i mean you still do it even when you're older let's not like it's not that it doesn't happen anymore but i just feel

32:21Ronnie Karam: like when you get older they don't just suddenly give you bigger tables but there was just

32:26Ben Mandelker: something about seeing this friend group all there that I thought was I just like loved it like I deeply loved seeing this group because like they're reality stars but you know when we see other shows if we were to see the real house of Beverly Hills going to a bar and they're all sitting around it wouldn't look like this and there was just something so real and these are yes all these rich kids from New York who are the Nepo babies but like I don't know. I felt like there was something so universal about a friend group going to a bar at night and getting drunk and cramming in and gossiping together and having little side conversations and little side revelations.

33:06Ben Mandelker: It warmed my heart so completely.

33:10Ronnie Karam: Well, it's cute. They're a pretty cute group. They're like, where are Ariana and Charlie? They're like, where are Ariana and Liam? But then Ariana shows up with Charlie and they're like, oh no. But then what happened to Liam? Where's Liam? Kendall's texting Liam. She's like, something's off. Something's weird. I just want to know what happened with Liam. Did they kill Liam? I think Liam got dumped. And so she's texting him. Meanwhile, he's walking over with Gia, Christian, and Brooks. And she's like, Ariana and Charlie at the bar, get over here. So now they come over. And Ava's asking Ariana if Charlie kissed her.

33:52Ronnie Karam: And she's like, yeah. She's like, did you kiss him back? She's like, yeah. And then Ariana tells Riley over text that she kissed Charlie. And Ava's like, are you going to tell Liam? She's like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I'm not going to. What do you, why do I need to tell Liam? Hey, Liam. No, we just had our talk. Just wanted you to know. I just made out with Charlie.

34:14Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And meanwhile, it's like Liam, they're giving Liam a pep talk, you know, on the way over. Like, no, she still likes you. no, she's not going for Charlie. Don't worry about it, Liam. Don't feel bad. Don't feel bad. Well, and she's actively making out with Charlie. So Ariana's like, I mean, we see Ariana and Riley in the confessional and Riley says, I mean, Charlie just swooped in there. He's strategic. And Ariana goes severely. And you know what? He's actually a genius. Have you heard his vernacular? He's very smart. Oh, God.

34:50Ronnie Karam: Riley just laughs. And so then Charlie and Shia are smoking outside the bar and Charlie's updating Shia on what happened. And he's like, we kissed. I mean, that's all the details I can get. Okay. And Shia's like, well, wasn't Liam there? He's like, no, no, we were just talking. And then I asked her something and then she kissed me. And that's it. It's like, it's like nuts, bro. It's nuts. So then Liam arrives at the bar and Ariana's like, where were you guys? And she was like, well, Christian was kind of talking and giving him like die advice.

35:25Ben Mandelker: And Ariana's like, well, I don't know how to behave. She goes, why? What happened? She's like, I guess Charlie. She goes, oh, fuck off. The timing is just not great. And I mean, like whatever was going to happen was going to happen. And it did. And it just would have been nice if it didn't happen while Brooks, Christian and I were coddling Liam to make sure he doesn't, you know, have a heart attack.

35:45Ronnie Karam: So Kendall's like, Liam, how was it? He's like, I mean, am I sitting with her right now? No, I'm not. I just need to stop, like, being an idiot. Like, it sucks. Like, I know it's going to be different, but I always have feelings for that girl. She's a special, special person. She'll always live right here in my ticker. So I'm on the right side of the chest. Whatever the side of the chest your heart is on, I feel her there.

36:08Ben Mandelker: That sweet 24-year-old girl. I just, I'll always love it. so um Liam's telling them tells Kendall like he's still pissed about the lemon thing and Kendall is like well you said just to you said to stop you from being with Ariana and he's like but like how would how would how would you have done it and Kendall's like I'm sorry Kendall was the one who was saying like well you told him to stop like to to interrupt you and Kendall's like honestly I probably would have thrown something at you he's like oh my god I am I am speechless. I felt like a fruit ninja, right? America, you can kind of agree that Kendall Jackson and I are kind of an amazing trio for television, right?

36:51Ben Mandelker: Look how hilarious we are.

36:53Ronnie Karam: So then the group does a cheers, but Liam doesn't raise his glass because he's like, I'm feeling things, right? Sometimes you just need to let me go through my process. And meanwhile, Shia and Ava are in the bathroom. And people are listening in. And Georgia listens in, doesn't hear anything, but they come out together. Like, and now it's Christmas Eve and we see pictures of Ariana and Liam together. And he's like, even after everything, we spent Christmas Eve at the house. And I don't, I don't know what I'm doing. What the fuck? What the fuck?

37:26Ben Mandelker: And she's like, I'm all over the place. Is that not clear? And then we see, then it's like this end of the, end of the season, kind of like social media blitz on screen, like they did last year. You see all these TikToks, and Riley's in a new apartment, and Amira's going to fashion week with Gucci, and Georgia is pulling out a book of poetry because she's writing a book of poetry. And she goes, I say shoot for the moon, and if you miss, you land among the stars, or whatever the quote is, because history doesn't repeat itself, it just rhymes.

37:59Ronnie Karam: so Gia goes to the Bahamas with a group of people and Brooks was supposed to go but he missed it because he lost his passport I left my passport in Austin and then people have to mail it to me but I'm not sure how I'm gonna get it mailed on me Ariana is saying plot twist Charlie and I walk in together lol what if we come into the reunion together that's gonna be crazy and she's like god send me to a mental asylum if i do what is it called a 1099 no that's for taxes what's the one where they send you to the mental asylum riley's like 9-1-1 she's like no that's

38:38Ben Mandelker: the police 7-1-1 and they're like it's a 5150 she's like oh yeah you have to 5150 me if i walk into reunion with charlie zaccor and um gia's like ariana said i would never touch charlie with the 10 foot pole we get it everyone we get that she said that you don't have to repeat it to us a million times we get it the pole shrank the pole went away there is no pole yeah but they're like

39:02Ronnie Karam: lady in that movie lady in the you know the train what is that is that lady in the train the tramp that's inappropriate i'm gonna look on my phone why is it called lady in the tramp oh because the lady dog is rich and the tramp dog is poor and then they get together oh my god That's so numb. That lady in the tramps.

39:26Ben Mandelker: Three months later, Ariana's like, I don't want to be around Charlie. I want nothing to do with that horrible human being. I was so naive because he manipulated me with Jesus. It was the twist I was not expecting, the Jesus manipulation. She goes, he said his ideal woman was a Christian girl. And I was like, wait, you believe in Jesus? And he said, of course I believe in Jesus. And he got a tattoo a few weeks later that said only God can judge me. And he appealed to me in that way. okay this person has an opportunity to be saved and maybe god called me to help this version to

39:54Ronnie Karam: find the best version of themselves ariana what give me a fucking break with this oh my god i just thought i was god's project like he was my project for god i was gonna save him girl please no she's like yeah god called me to help him to help him find the best version of himself and he worked hard to use that advantage with me and that's the lowest blow of anything you can do. He doesn't deserve me as a friend. He used Jesus against me. Okay, give me a fucking break. I like you. This Jesus shit has got to stop.

40:30Ben Mandelker: You don't have to save Charlie. If God wants to save Charlie, God will do it himself. So then she's like, I can't wait to fucking eat him up and chew him up and spitting the fuck out at the reunion cut to Georgia you gotta spit you gotta just like get it out you know oh I'm still talking about my club

40:49Ronnie Karam: what are you talking about Brooks still not getting a spitting Charlie I mean spitting Brooks we're talking about spitting and that brings us to the end of Next Gen NYC they have a two part reunion which is pretty crazy

41:04Ben Mandelker: yeah it makes sense

41:06Ronnie Karam: they didn't have one last year now they're getting a two

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