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15 Sep 2026 · 1h 15m · 25 chapters

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#3537 Below Deck Med S11E15: Rag and Boned

In short

Watch What Crappens recaps Below Deck Med Season 11 Episode 15 (“Rag and Boned”), focusing on Jen’s escalating breakdown, Luke’s ongoing troublemaking/“love bombing,” and the crew/guest dynamics during a charter.

Guests (podcast hosts)

Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Caram (comedy commentary on Bravo shows). No Below Deck guest list is provided in the transcript, but the episode’s charter primary is “Kaz,” and there’s “Kelly” (represented as a blow-up doll after she can’t attend).

Guest backgrounds (from the episode recap)

  • Jen: second-stew/crew member spiraling after humiliation involving flowers and stress affecting her wrist.
  • Luke: male crew member previously involved with Jen; sends flowers/texts; framed as manipulative and attention-seeking.
  • Joy: chef; receives flowers and is wary of Luke; later calls Luke while Jen is nearby.
  • Coop, Nathan, Aesha, Kat, Masey: crew members discussed for roles, conflicts, and shifting duties.

Key claims

  • Flowers weren’t for Jen; they were for Joy, triggering Jen’s rage and “laundry” punishment.
  • Luke’s gestures are portrayed as performative love bombing, not real effort.
  • Joe is favored by Captain Sandy over Nathan, heightening tension.

Notable examples

  • Jen storms off after learning the flowers aren’t for her; she later rage-texts Luke.
  • Joy and Luke phone call happens while Jen overhears.
  • Charter setup includes Kaz as primary and Kelly as a blow-up doll; Joy makes “play-doh” food for Kelly.

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Chapters

3:56

Exciting Tour Announcement

Details about the upcoming tour and possible celebrity appearances.

5:38

Reflections on the Game

Discussion about a recent game and the Kelsey brothers.

6:39

Tom Cruise and Therapy Insights

A humorous take on therapy and Tom Cruise's stunts.

“get some respect so it's not even it's just that you you know you do sports and that automatically I do.”
9:11

Recap of Below Deck Med S11E15

In-depth discussion of Below Deck's latest episode and character dynamics.

“Someone called wrong number one day I picked up, and I talked him through it.”
14:00

Cabin Conversations: Emotional Turmoil

The hosts discuss the challenges faced by Jen and her emotional struggles during the charter season.

“stool that you keep falling off of because you have no coordination.”
20:30

Below Deck Goonies: A Fun Concept

The hosts brainstorm and joke about a Below Deck season with a Goonies twist, discussing character interactions and plot possibilities.

“Thank you so much for putting me in laundry.”
28:00

Effort vs. Image Building in Relationships

Discussion on the difference between genuine effort in relationships and superficial gestures.

29:18

Gossip About Joy and Coop's Relationship

Exploration of the gossip surrounding Joy's relationship with Coop as seen on the show.

“But you know, some people I've learned are my real friends and then some people I've learned are not my friends.”
29:48

Joe's Relationship Struggles

Joe discusses his rocky relationship with Nathan and his desire to emerge victorious.

“Listen, I still really like Joy on the show.”
31:06

Production Manipulation and Humiliation

Debate over whether production set Jen up for humiliation with the flower delivery.

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33:19

Support and Grudges Among Friends

Discussion on the dynamics of friendship, support during tough times, and the nature of grudges.

34:27

Joe and Coop's Night Out

Recap of Joe and Coop's fun night and the ensuing drama regarding their relationships.

36:19

Guests' Unique Dietary Preferences

Discussion about a guest's peculiar dietary restrictions and the cast's reactions.

“And then he hangs out with Joe, who's like, you can't let him pin you down.”
38:27

Charter Preparations and Introductions

Setting the stage for the upcoming charter with character introductions and expectations.

“Asha's telling everybody to get ready and she announces that Jen is going to be in laundry and Kat is being moved to service today.”
40:41

Navigating the Boat and Internal Conflicts

Discussion about navigating the boat and underlying tensions between crew members.

“So, they motor out and Sandy's like, Joe, hey Joe, I love your sign language.”
42:01

Joe's Moment in the Spotlight

Discussion on Joe's experience driving the boat and Captain Sandy's favoritism.

“God you're so good at that just resting those palms right on a wooden wheel.”
44:13

Joe's Moment in the Spotlight

Discussion on Joe's experience driving the boat and Captain Sandy's favoritism.

“You know those pieces in your closet that you find yourself wearing on repeat, the sweater that goes with everything, the perfect pair of pants, or the tee you somehow always reach for first.”
46:28

Kat's Rise and Jen's Frustrations

Conversations about Kat's promotion and Jen's issues with her crush and stress.

“So then Kat and Kaylee are talking about Kat's elevation in the stew ranks for the charter.”
55:02

Conflicts and Tensions

Joe's shallow relationship, Joy's feelings of isolation, and Nathan's leadership challenges.

“He's like my acting boyfriend and I'm his acting girlfriend.”
56:00

Conversations on Yachting and Life

Explore the challenges of yachting and the need for personal connections.

“I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about, but I feel like this is what you want me to say.”
57:10

Texting Drama and Relationships

Dive into Jen's texting drama with Luke and her reactions.

“So then we go to laundry and Jen's still texting Liz.”
58:40

Anchor Watch Tensions

Discuss the scheduling of anchor watch and crew conflicts.

“and she's like, oh, oh, Bloop, guess what we're going to see what this man-child has to say.”
1:01:50

Dinner Discussions and Emotional Outbursts

Jen talks to Asha about her feelings regarding Luke amidst dining.

“You know, last charter, I feel like it was Joe pouting, and this charter, Nathan's taking out on Joe.”
1:05:40

Laundry and Jealousy

Jen's jealousy and the fallout from her actions with laundry.

“So then Joy is asked, like, what do you think of him?”
1:10:00

Drama on the Yacht

Explore the chaotic interactions and interpersonal drama among the crew.

“Nathan, you're going to change the schedule for us?”
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2:00hello and welcome to watch what crappens a podcast about all that crap on bravo that we just love to talk about i'm ben mandelker and joining me today is the one and only ronnie

2:10Ronnie Karam: caram hi ronnie how's it going over there good what's going on with you today not much um you

2:18Ben Mandelker: look nice and comfy over there in the a-cast studios uh did you have a very fun time uh circling Manhattan last night with some Bravo liberties.

2:28Ronnie Karam: Yes, it was fun. Austin and Hannah. It was a good time. Thanks for everybody. Or thanks to everybody who came out. It was great times. You know, I've never seen the statue of Liberty up that close.

2:38Ben Mandelker: Isn't it crazy?

2:39Ronnie Karam: It is. It's so beautiful. I lived in Staten Island when I was 18. So I passed that thing every day, but I feel like she was smaller. She was just so majestic.

2:49Ben Mandelker: Yeah. You know, it's, it's kind of amazing.

2:52Ronnie Karam: everybody it's my armpits she's still out there raising her arm like do i smell yeah she uh

3:00Ben Mandelker: she's a site she's a site she should become a real housewife um well guess what real housewives of new york is tomorrow and i've already seen that episode i don't know if you have but i'll tell you it was quite funny it was quite funny but today um we are talking below deck which is just having such a crazy season blow deck med before we dive into that um everyone the tour is starting soon we're in the mix watch what crops is in the mix tour and we are starting our tour in kansas city we're starting it in kansas city on october 3rd saturday october 3rd so come join us we cannot say whether or not taylor swift will be there but there may be someone named taylor there and there may be someone who's moving swiftly so who knows but uh yeah we can't say she's not going to be there yeah we can't make any promises of whether or not taylor swift will be there but she might be there could be there you don't know who's going to be there al pacino could be there literally all those people could be there guys we can't we can't make any promises but i i'm just gonna say right now there is a chance that taylor swift could be there i mean technically there's a chance she could be like this is the time i want to go um but that's gonna be on october 3rd and then chicago is the very next night um and then we have minneapolis and detroit later in october so we're doing we're starting off in the midwest and it's going to be amazing also on patreon come join us for the patreon experience we uh recorded a bonus episode yesterday that is a trailer trash of the golden life which is essentially uh old school erroney uh down in palm beach so we had a fun time with that it was very funny it looks like it'll be a good time and patreon has so much more to offer we have crap is on demand ad free listening on audio all that great stuff um so get the full experience and wonderful discord community whoa so join us all there okay you know what people keep asking me

5:03Ronnie Karam: why it looks so amazing still you know ramona on that i did nothing i did nothing i just naturally look young and amazing i look i look the way i do because i did nothing okay oh today is all about oh by the way i was watching the game yesterday because i was with the straight

5:24Ben Mandelker: guy named whoa we gotta watch the game yeah you know team was playing kansas city chiefs yeah and somebody else who wasn't a red team i think they were blue my colorado perhaps flag boys like they were doing a flag boy dance when i was watching it you know like flag dancing that's what it's

5:45Ronnie Karam: called right flag dancing uh-huh i feel problematic saying that flag dancing that's a thing and so that was great um but also the kelsey brother was up there i was like oh that that's kind of a cute bear and he's like ronnie this is kelsey whatever he's like very well i'm used to him looking like

6:05Ben Mandelker: duck dynasty dirty are you talking about travis or um what's his face the brother i'm blanking on his name but you know travis kelsey and the other kelsey the bear kelsey the real bear the other one the other one who's yes why can't i actually follow him on instagram i don't actually follow travis kelsey but i follow the other kelsey and i can't even remember his name i'll look it up

6:34Ronnie Karam: it's does this he's also one of the biggest podcasters in the world so maybe we should get some respect so it's not even it's just that you you know you do sports and that automatically I do. It just, sports automatically turns my brain even more off. So I just don't understand it. But anyway, he was up there. And my whole point is people who look like you're from Duck Dynasty, really all it takes is a beard trim. Just shape it. And then look. I mean, the guy was just so cute.

7:01Ben Mandelker: He is adorable. He has like a, he's just, he's got nice eyes. He's got warm eyes. I saw, actually speaking of Taylor Swift, I saw a clip this morning. I guess Taylor Swift was in attendance of that Kansas City game. much like she might be at our crapping show i mean who knows but um she was there uh in the booth with tom cruise and they just they were showing this footage of them talking she looked so bored talking to tom cruise i was cracking up she was because you know taylor swift she normally has she's normally smiling like the big goofy smile like she's always like so excited about every single thing and she could not have been more serious she was giving that look like she was stuck next to someone on an airplane having to make small talk about brochures she's like wow yeah and you know he was like and when i filmed mission impossible 3 they said this time you have to get a stuntman i said no i'm not gonna do a stuntman because that's i'm not gonna do something and she's like yeah well that's like yeah well you know it's the business that's so

8:03Ronnie Karam: weird i was just talking about tom cruise last night because um austin someone said what have you learned from being on the show? And he's like, you know, the therapy is okay. And I go to therapy and I've worked through a lot of stuff in therapy and stuff. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like, you're still on the show. I don't need people going on the shows and getting over-therapized because like, you still need to be on Bravo and like be a mess, you know? Yeah. And he was like, well, thanks. Thanks a lot. Like, thanks for the support. And I was like, well, you know, it's like Tom Cruise hurt his back one time when he was doing Mission Impossible because he was doing his own stunts and like that sounds sad and everything but it's not like i don't want him to hurt his back because it was a good stunt you know what i mean and you just looked at me like no i i don't know what you mean and so it's a really insensitive moment for me but tom cruise was involved and here he is again this morning so what the hell does that mean for my life

8:56Ben Mandelker: i don't know but i just hope that uh that uh that austin's uh therapist is not the same as craig's craig's therapist who's gonna now like it's like my therapist told me i have to heal my inner child and then it developed a chemical weapon and destroyed some country craig you're talking to putin okay i would love that actually i would love it if like vladimir putin was actually like secretly craig's therapist like vladimir he gets his release he's Like, people think I'm such a bad guy, but actually, on the side, I provide therapy for sweet men in Carolina.

9:36Ronnie Karam: Someone called wrong number one day I picked up, and I talked him through it.

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9:45Ronnie Karam: I told him, you know what you should do? Take it to bed and dream on it. And he said, pillow. And the rest is history. Thank you very much.

9:54Ben Mandelker: We have developed a new AI. we developed new ai model based off of craig donover's brain oh god you have to start with the regular eye to get there we've heard of artificial intelligence what's artificial stupidity

10:11Ronnie Karam: rs real stupidity uh that would be this podcast at the moment yeah exactly here we are with Below Deck Season 11, Episode 15. Chips on the shoulder.

10:25Ben Mandelker: Ooh. Well, guess what? This is a great episode for Jen losing her mind. Hilarious. Hilarious work here by her resident adorable psychopath.

10:38Ronnie Karam: So she is really like a cartoon Looney Tune. She's like Lucy from The Peanuts. You know? She's like, ah! and get her way and her mouth just opens really wide and looks like

10:54Ben Mandelker: she reminds me of like a 1994 like a mid-90s um uh cast member of the real world like like her her nuttiness is at that level of someone who's gonna like hide a jar of peanut butter or something or like i don't know like maybe uh like throw a teddy bear into the into the into the seattle you know into the like into the waters of seattle i don't know like like all those all those petty moments that happened on the real world in the 90s that had like a certain kind of vibe to them

11:29Ronnie Karam: like that's what jen is to me yeah well jen has just realized that the flowers that were sent were not for her they are for joy instead so she has a bitch like fuck this charter i'm out of here it's ridiculous i don't deserve this and she storms off and then the new guy just goes well

11:50Ben Mandelker: she she really doesn't like flowers huh and nathan's like yeah one of the old dachshunds sent flowers to the chef but the stewardess that was holding them was the girl he was sleeping with and massy's like oh what the fuck is going on these guys need to be very handsome because to cause all these trouble without even being here or he's got a golden dick i do not know I'm like, he's got abs and pecs and there are limited options. So that's how this happens.

12:16Ronnie Karam: You know, don't underestimate tall male privilege. Those guys really get it all. The world parts. It's like the sea parting. They're like, wow, a tall man's coming through. Watch out, everybody. And then the guys, I'll look at him. Anybody under that height just looks at him like, wow, wonder what it looks like up there. I know. It's the Statue of Liberty.

12:41Ben Mandelker: It's legitimately crazy. I mean, you saw, I'm sure, firsthand last night with Austin. Like, Austin, the amount of times people, like, the amount of goo-goo-ga-ga eyes that follow Austin, purely because he's tall, is shocking. Well, yeah.

12:56Ronnie Karam: I mean, I was one of them. I told him. I was like, oh, my God. I forget how hot you are in person. And Hannah said, I think it's the height, honey.

13:07Ben Mandelker: It is.

13:08Ronnie Karam: A height privilege. I mean, that is a real thing. and he also has hair privilege yes he does you know that's also really unfair but anyway you know the point is i'm i'm super uh happy for him so i hope he goes great i hope austin goes great

13:24Ben Mandelker: i hope he i hope his hair turns like bright white so that way like when that happens he will look like a founding father his hair his hair is as thick as a powdered wig

13:37Ronnie Karam: yeah um i don't hope that other people like like i don't hope that he loses hair or gets shorter you know but i don't necessarily hope that i grow hair or grow taller either i mean what would i have to complain about so yeah i'm just i'm just really happy the way things are and i'm happy for him congratulations on being able to reach the top shelf every single time without a little step stool that you keep falling off of because you have no coordination. I'm really happy for you.

14:04Ben Mandelker: And you're yes. Congratulations. You were able to reach your backup bottle of fly by Jane.

14:14Ronnie Karam: So now we go to Jen and Kat's cabin and it's just like, Oh, are you feeling okay? It's all right to lose sometimes, you know, it's like, that was humiliating. I mean, everything with my wrist, like that's like a real disability like i've dropped two trays that's a huge thing and then just not getting the things i wanted out of the season i'm mostly because you're an asshole and wouldn't give them to me and then like now this whole loop thing is like it's really hard to pull things together you know it's just been really rough but i've really been pulling it together just to be professional when were you pulling it together you have not pulled it together one time

14:46Ben Mandelker: literally nothing has been pulled together ever this entire season also please don't pull things together yeah i mean she's she will 100 be back i believe she we will she is gonna be now on the le track so asia is like let me put you in laundry for the next charter so i just have a breather think things over which um seems like it'll be a nice idea she can just sort of be in solitary confinement and just like relax but that just gives her time to brew with her thoughts so it's

15:17Ronnie Karam: actually the worst idea of all time i mean she even finds a way to be evil from laundry which is yes that's where your parents like oh you know what just go to your room and just relax and have a think up there and she goes up to her room and she starts the house on fire you know yeah classic that way classic i would just jump out my roof i was on the second story but i would crawl out onto the garage roof and then climb down the i would sneak out is what i'm saying i always would have been a good time to be tall i really hurt myself not being able to reach anything back then either even with my toes i um i really applaud people who sneak out of

16:00Ben Mandelker: rooms because i or houses because i'll tell you one thing i i was raised on like a in the single story house so like if i had to sneak out the window which i never would do because i'm a good boy but if i ever had to it would be just a very simple like go out the window but all those like kids that are on the second floor that have to like go out the window then climb down a tree i'm like no uh-uh i'm staying in i am not bringing my ankle oh i just i didn't

16:25Ronnie Karam: you know i've never broken anything but i fell off that thing so many times i can't believe i

16:30Ben Mandelker: still have hips yeah i i i don't know i feel like it's that's definitely some movie magic you know the teenagers just appear in each other's windows i'm like realistically that's not a very simple thing to do you have to hope there's a tree nearby you have to hope that like the tree is like shaped in a way that can like support like like where do you get your purchase like how do you do that like how you do that so i just want to say all those kids sneaking in and out of windows all the teenagers i don't believe half of them that was me i did it i did it and i was

17:03Ronnie Karam: punished for and really what was i even doing i wasn't going out to drink or like do anything fun i would just walk around the neighborhood with my friends like walk on literal train tracks walk on train tracks wow um and now i won't even leave the house or get out of my bed so So you were basically a goonie. I tried to be. I even bought sneakers and cut the soles off. And then I took the springs out of the toilet paper rolls to put in the bottom so they could like pop like the kid from the goonies. I thought he was so cool. And then I had all my friends call me Chunk. And then I just started eating only ice cream and gained a ton of weight.

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20:33Ben Mandelker: What if there was like below deck Goonies and it was just like a below deck season that takes place on that boat

20:46Ben Mandelker: and like the charter guests

20:47Ronnie Karam: for sailing

20:51Ben Mandelker: every week it's always the same charter guests it's like ma what's her face and her kids like oh god these guests are the worst they're so demanding yeah

21:04Ronnie Karam: these kids keep taking taking things and making wacky sales out of them it's all baby Ruth

21:10Ben Mandelker: rappers making a sale and it's that and and like oh no jerry o 'connell wasn't in the hughes in

21:16Ronnie Karam: stand by me never mind thank god anyway um cat goonie is still i mean i was gonna say still with us but i don't mean like alive but sean astin right oh yeah okay anyway the point is jen is affiliated and her wrist so she was thrown into laundry and she takes it as you know a favor She's like, thank you. Thank you so much for putting me in laundry. You know what? I do care about you. I really, really do. Right. Please just be quiet and don't ever say anything. I do care about you. I care about you the same way I care about, you know, animals that haven't been adopted. Like I know they're there.

22:00Ronnie Karam: I know they need my help and they'll probably be put down at some point. And I feel bad, but I'm not going there.

22:07Ben Mandelker: You care about them in an abstract sense, but you're not like, you're not like, you know.

22:14Ronnie Karam: I care about you. It's not a high priority.

22:17Ben Mandelker: Yeah. You know. Not a high priority care for you. Now here comes the hate letters.

22:22Ronnie Karam: I care for you, but there's nothing I'm going to do. Yeah. We're going to get some emails now. You know, when you mentioned that, that was like so upsetting to me because as someone who works in a shelter, I just felt like you were really just like it could have been better for you.

22:37Ben Mandelker: We're going to. um we apologize we we're aspiring to help but we just don't so i care about that the same way that

22:44Ronnie Karam: i care about you know an extinct fish in the in a sea that i've never been to it's like i know it's a problem it's just it's not mine you know how about this okay because i do feel bad because i

22:58Ben Mandelker: i think we want to save the our our adorable animals that are in the shelters that need to

23:03Ronnie Karam: adopted so we do care about that is adopted i mean come on yeah but how about this it's like um

23:09Ben Mandelker: like i i remember reading about a giant um uh or fish that like washed up in san diego and these things are like you know they're like 20 feet long and they live in the depths and they're so rare and so it washed up on the shore and it was like this is crazy and there's an or fish that washed up it's crazy that it washed up but also is it like a harbinger of things to come and i care and that's where it ends and so yeah exactly i think jen is like the equivalent of seeing an ominous or fish sign wash up in san diego yeah like i hope that you find your way back to the water but i'm not leaving my table at the seaside restaurant yeah exactly your life or fish i mean

24:00Ronnie Karam: if you cared about everything too much all the time you'd just be a sobbing mess right

24:05Ben Mandelker: i mean precisely that's why we have to come on by the way things that we need to care about i'm

24:11Ronnie Karam: getting a call from seal beach and seals now there's something i care if there's a seal in trouble i will be running towards that seal right now wait what are the odds that that you're getting

24:21Ben Mandelker: a call from seal beach as i just literally talked about a giant fish washing up on a beach in

24:28Ronnie Karam: southern california is it is it an orfish tom cruise and now things on beaches that's these are the signs we need to pay attention to today in the universe the point is uh fuck jen she's and laundry. Okay, so she's like, yeah, this whole Charger season is like bringing up insecurities. And I'm like, I didn't get second stew. I didn't get Luke. I hurt my wrist. Cat's mad at me now. Like, what is going on at this boy? Like, what is going right? Okay, but all of those things are kind of you and your personality and how you're treating people. So, Luke is an asshole, too, so I don't want to, like, absolve Luke of anything.

25:10Ronnie Karam: I'm not doing that. But, you know, I don't know. if it's everybody in the world is it you yeah exactly if like at a certain point you've got

25:22Ben Mandelker: to ask the oarfish if you're washing up in san diego do you think that maybe you're the one who swam into the wrong place at the wrong time yeah do you think that maybe you went into the wrong

25:34Ronnie Karam: waters yeah about that yeah did somebody an m &m that you were trying to get on the shore that

25:40Ben Mandelker: maybe you shouldn't have been trying to get yeah can i tell you something since we're talking about coincidences i was like what are the chances that an oarfish has washed up recently and uh i'm sure everybody was thinking well yeah well an oarfish did wash up in march in cabo and it's funny because the headline says watch the moment when two oarfish washed up alive on a cabo beach which is like oh wait everyone stop stop watch the watch this moment but um all the headlines about orfishes that have washed up they're all called they're called the doomsday fish they're and like apparent because it's like when they wash up it means doomsday is coming because it's they shouldn't be washing up or they're called a palace a palace messenger of doom well i think i'm gonna upgrade the orfish situation to above jen

26:40Ronnie Karam: i don't feel like to say to any orfish who happen to be washed up and listening to this right now

26:45Ben Mandelker: you're not wrong yeah yeah seriously or maybe they just wanted to see taylor swift on tv but um uh yeah i'm gonna say animals needing to be adopted out of shelters is here which is if you're listening that's like it's right where my forehead is then at nose level we have orfish washing up and then at chin level we have jen's you know you know jen's jen's well-being yeah

27:12Ronnie Karam: okay so you know the sheltered animals are winning so in the galley cat comes in holding a random bag of lemons um to ask joy about her flowers and she's like oh i got them from luke and she's like, who are you going to call Luke? Are you going to call him? What a wonderful idea, my little kitty cat.

27:35Ben Mandelker: By the way, it's not a wonderful idea. I hate that Joy is even harboring any sort of warm feelings for this guy. So she says, I think it's cute to send me flowers, and Lucas made mistakes, but he has shown me day after day by texting me and calling me and sending me flowers that he is here by my side. You know, he's showing me he can be a good love bomber, but we have to put them in time out when they do wrong but we have to appreciate when they make efforts like but here's the thing this is not effort if you ask me this is not effort because

28:07Ronnie Karam: there was a time flowers this is probably somebody yet this is presentational bullshit this is love

28:16Ben Mandelker: bombing if this guy is calling up and like maren maren can't wait to see you here's flowers is that effort or is that just image building on his part sorry that's i don't see him doing anything for you if you want effort you should he should offer to like set like send you a meal or like get you a massage i don't know something that's actually going to benefit your life more

28:36Ronnie Karam: than that yeah um well you've heard the gossip about joy right have you been following the

28:43Ben Mandelker: gossip um no because i'm more plugged into or fish or fish talk

28:51Ronnie Karam: go on um cat i saw a video of cat on instagram being like hi guys it's me cat acting really weird i don't know maybe it's like tiktok face like she kept sticking out her tongue and being like hey guys it's me yeah it's like really fun i don't i don't know because i really like her on this show maybe just not tiktok but anyway she was talking about don't worry guys i'm doing fine. But you know, some people I've learned are my real friends and then some people I've learned are not my friends. And you know who you are because I've unfollowed you. Wow. Queen. So people are like, what? What is this?

29:33Ronnie Karam: This must be about Joy because she's calling her queen and there's no gay guy on the boat. She's saying that too. And then the pictures came out from this most recent season that's being shot and Joy and Coop are walking hand in hand. Get out. Joy and Coop are now together. Listen, I still really like Joy on the show. I think she's one of the funniest chefs we've had in a long time. But the taste in the boys.

30:05Ben Mandelker: Come on. That's wild. I would think that Coop is just too dumb for Joy. But then again, she likes Luke. I don't know. I don't get this. I think she just likes a big...

30:16Ronnie Karam: Somebody was like, why are you eating Nutter Butters? I haven't seen somebody eat a Nutter Butter in years. That was what was in the vending machine. It was that or like spearmint gum.

30:28Ben Mandelker: It's just what we had. It's what was there. It was offered for snack and it was either have snack or don't have snack. Do you want to have a good recess? Then have your Nutter Butters because guess what? Tomorrow's going to be those weird orange cookies. Those orange squares with the peanut butter in them. also that do not exist outside of snack time in elementary school.

30:49Ronnie Karam: Well, that's another good point. It can always get worse, I guess. So Joe calls and checks in with his mom, and she's staying really positive, and she's going to get a procedure and get everything taken out, she says. And he says, you know, I've not ever let a relationship in my entire life go so sour as it has with me and Nathan. but it has and now i can only solve it by beating him and winning and becoming the boson the most important thing in the entire world becomes boson over nathan just a few more touches and i'm never gonna have to see him again and uh normally i'd be like we choose over there what are you fighting for yeah um normally i'd be like yeah you will be stuck with him because bravo's gonna keep

31:41Ben Mandelker: shoving you guys together but now he is right i don't think we will be seeing nathan on our televisions ever again hopefully yeah i just choked i just choked up my saliva i am in here i feel like an orifice in its final moments i was gonna say that that came to you from the orfish doomsday saliva oh uh-oh i took myself off the screen but i'm still coughing blatantly into the audio so for those who want to know the difference between watching the show and actually just listening to it the listen if the audio portion has uh 50 more coughs okay i literally am truly choking on my words we've had a dumb doomsday or a fish washing up in pacific beach so uh now we go to laundry room and uh cat and jen are talking about jen's state and she's just like that was like so fucked up which by the way i also just want to say it wasn't me do you wonder if maybe what was fucked up was that like production said hey jen could you go get those flowers that are arriving like and then she's holding him and then it turns out it's from luke i could kind of see that being what's really going on here that it wasn't so much that she like ah like oh i accidentally got these flowers it's that production set her up to be humiliated yeah because she did look at the cameras like she did look like what the fuck the camera like how

33:13Ronnie Karam: dare you it's sort of like there's and there's also the possibility that luke is doing this just to piss off jet you know because he is one of those he's like oh i'm gonna keep two people on the hook and he's like what why are you upset it's crazy like i just slept with you last night now i'm flirting with someone in front of your face and then dumping you so i because i like them more you know he is doing that thing i think he gets off on people being mad at him you know does well it's attention but joy is nice to him again he's gonna do something mean so then he gets the whole oh my gosh someone's someone really cares about me because they're mad that's the

33:49Ben Mandelker: thing or like oh it's going too fast but um you know but you know what my instinct says that the producers told jen to go um receive the flowers and then she's humiliated but then she proceeds to text luke for the rest of the day these like rage texts that does suggest that no she was actually just furious about the flowers and whether the producers set her up or not was immaterial because she's just so mad at him yeah so uh cat cat and jen could have a little hug and jen is like you know i thought you were telling me to stay positive and shit like that but it's just like it's so hard to stay positive i'm like well to stay positive you first have to be positive i don't know if you've gotten there yet on this season but you know tomorrow's a new

34:38Ronnie Karam: day yeah stay positive positive needs to be replaced so like get positive okay it's like yeah it's like really hard like i don't even know what am i doing like i've heard my ribs and then the thing happens like everything's happening to me and cat's like we're a team so like we're gonna stick together just go lay down for a second she's like yeah like i really hate doing this to make you do more of my work but like i really need some time

35:07Ben Mandelker: so cat is like recently me and jen have had our differences and a lot of the stuff she does i don't agree with but just seeing her so upset i'm just like i can't hold a grudge i just have to be there for her um so you don't by the way you don't have to be there for her sorry to say um

35:26Ronnie Karam: i also feel really bad for people who can't hold grudges like what do you do with your time i know you spend your mental capacity what do you hold that's like half of my life i'm still mad about people from kindergarten first grade like i will hold a grudge like i just what else would i do i know it's exhilarating i'm so coffee shop he wouldn't let me use my damn computer i almost went there today and i was like well guess what i will be making a coffee at a cast today

35:58Ben Mandelker: i am still trying to win my first oscar purely purely to say i told you so to the but the drama teacher who cast me as a tree 15 million times in the school play you're that casting directors put me in put me in get me my oscar i've got a vendetta i got to

36:18Ronnie Karam: work out yeah some people call them grudges i call them fuel okay yeah so now we go to the sun deck uh joe and coop are talking about the fun crazy night out and coop's like yeah i can't was on my ass about jen flirting with me what am i supposed to do and she said what even are we

36:37Ben Mandelker: well last season there was a bit of a there was a bit i was consciously involved with but i just didn't want a relationship anymore and i didn't know how how to get out of it and i fucked up the whole boat just to be honest mate you should just save yourself from a fucking mess oh yes yes joe joe i'm sorry this is not this does not smooth over the shit that you caused last season like it was oh i was i i just didn't want to be involved with it anymore and i wasn't i wasn't you it wasn't that you didn't want to be involved anymore you never wanted to be involved in the first place but you let her on and then you made out with someone behind her back while she was sick and honoring the anniversary of her boyfriend's death i mean really you had the big

37:24Ronnie Karam: oh look i've done all this for you because your brother passed away and like had a big romantic night and then cried cried to her about how much you feel for her and you've never felt like this and then you went and made out with somebody yeah you were trying really hard joe yeah like

37:40Ben Mandelker: joe bro so don't try to act like you have some sort of perspective on this yeah and also coop was coop started off this like oh my god i'm so into cat what i believe is an old-fashioned love When you love somebody, you take them to a restaurant. You treat them right.

37:58Ronnie Karam: And then he hangs out with Joe, who's like, you can't let him pin you down. Let's go flirt with some girls. And Coop is immediately like, I'm going to go flirt with some girls. Why are you mad at me? So he's so easily influenced by Joe. So manipulative.

38:18Ben Mandelker: 100%. um so uh one of the guests uh the preference sheet one of the guests only eats carbs no vegetables

38:26Ronnie Karam: nothing only carbs my kind of person right there yeah this is this is new and then um really i mean i've turned into that since that parasite thing came out and you told me i can't eat lettuce i have not touched i think maybe i've had a couple of bites of salad since that whole thing i'm strictly bagels bread and cheese now i mean i guess cheese isn't a carb

38:47Ben Mandelker: yeah well it could sort of be a carb um uh anyway so jen meanwhile is muttering to herself she's about luke she's like fucking bitch ass 40 year old moron but you know what sabrina carpenter got played by barrick yogin i think i'm doing okay if that's the mental workaround you need then god bless she's like i'm basically sabrina carpenter guys.

39:19Ronnie Karam: So now we're in the main salon. It's 39 minutes before Charter. Asha's telling everybody to get ready and she announces that Jen is going to be in laundry and Kat is being moved to service today. Kat's really deserved this opportunity. Jen needs this time to recuperate. Oh my God. It's like a blessing in disguise on behind the scenes because like it's just too much like i'm taking too much i need a moment to myself

39:52Ben Mandelker: she the amount of times that jen has to take a moment for herself is hilarious so the guests arrive we meet the primary her name is kaz and then there's kelly kelly's a blow-up doll kelly was supposed to come on the charter but the last minute she couldn't make it because of an emergency or something like that so uh guess what she will be represented in blow-up doll form um it's like Kelly is going through some horrific life experience like but guess what she's a blow-up doll on TV

40:23Ben Mandelker: so they meanwhile in the galley joy has made some play-doh food for Kelly so it's like fake food which is cute it's also it's actually like very well made and she's made like a little pasta and everything. Asia's like... So then, now it's time to leave the DAC. Okay? So, they motor out and Sandy's like, Joe, hey Joe, I love your sign language. You're doing great. Okay, you know what? Hey, Kenya, do you know the sign language? Do you know what the sign, how did the ASL for saying or fish? Okay, because you want to talk about a sign language, those things, when they wash up, watch out. 23 more days left on this earth.

41:05That's what I got to say.

41:06Ronnie Karam: Here. I need you to learn how to say this in Orfish. Go back. Go back. This is the shore. Hey, can you tell us? Say this in Orfish. Say this in Orfish. No talking on the CBs while I'm docking. Okay. Thanks. Hey, Joe, you want to drive daddy's car? Okay. Come on over here. Touch the steering wheel. Look at that. You're driving. Oh, watch. Oh, no, you're turning. Oh, gosh. You did it. I love to teach people. That's who I am. You know, it's a women empowerment session. I've been doing it for years. I mean, it's just Joel, but still, sticking with it. Joel, be a strong, independent woman, all right?

41:47Ronnie Karam: Steer this boat.

41:49Ben Mandelker: So, Joel is there. He's staring. He's like, oh, God, I've got to look intense. Like, I'm taking it seriously. And Nathan's, like, so upset because Marcy's like, lucky Joe. And Nathan's like, yeah, but he definitely doesn't deserve it. like sandy lets like literally everyone drive that boat at a certain point like it's fine okay and then joe is like it's so noticeable that captain sandy is choosing me over nathan it feels pretty damn good it's like oh god this is the best experience of my entire life it's truly the most amazing thing i'm like joe all you did was press a button she's like okay press that button it's like bloop you did it congratulations joe you drove a boat you're captain now you're

42:27Ronnie Karam: basically captain and you're a little kid and you show up to school like i do have the car here okay uh but captain sandy is kind of choosing joe over nathan and i love it like she's not really even hiding it because nathan's fucking up left and right and she's like yeah you know what i choose i choose joe well car hey uh radio radio sandy sandy person who drove the car person who drove the car today as i'm only talking to you you know who you are this goes out to you joe the only child Joe wasn't it fun putting your hands on a steering wheel but not actually having to move the steering wheel because we're in an open ocean so there's really no like sharp turns you have to make.

43:08God you're so good at that just resting those palms right on a wooden wheel.

43:12Ronnie Karam: Alright Joe well just a reminder you'll be a night's discharge or midnight to six and he's like six hours yeah you know can you get changed into your wets now? I'm the boss and that's what I said so that's how many hours you're going to be up

43:27Ben Mandelker: it's crazy i mean nathan's a real dipshit so um joe is like complaining about it in his cabin and koop's like honestly i feel like joe has kind of taken a lot from nathan up until this point but joe's also given some back but i feel like it's just a lot of built-up tension and now it's just ready to explode yeah wow thanks for the observations uh koop i'm glad you were here to fill us in on that.

43:51Ronnie Karam: Meanwhile, Jen's like slowly losing it in the pantry. She's like, oh my God. Or in the laundry. She's like, oh my God, I can't believe I just I go out with pro athletes. Okay? I mean, I'm losing my mind over a fucking Woody from Toy Story. I'm a pro athlete getter.

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46:28So then Kat and Kaylee are talking about Kat's elevation in the stew ranks for the charter.

46:34Ben Mandelker: So Kaylee is like, so does it feel good to be out of the laundry? She's like, it does, queen. growing up i prioritized academics and then i got into law school and my mom actually sat me down and said cat take a year off to go explore the world she was probably the first parent who told her kid not to become a lawyer can you even believe it i'm like she had gambling debts cat dad i hate to break it to you she couldn't afford law school for you so she just pretended like she wanted you to be empowered but she's making that money back right now

47:07Ronnie Karam: you know where you're really going to learn the most? Bussing tables and Applebee's. And it's going to be great for you. It's like, hey, wait a minute. My mom did that. Okay, so Laundrie, Jen texts Luke, and she's like, hi, you made a good decision leaving the boat because it was extremely disrespectful what you did with those flowers today. And this will be the only time that you hear from me in this five-minute stretch. You son of a bitch. You son of a bitch. i've dated pro athletes okay i mean the sport was like you know frisbee golf but so

47:45Ben Mandelker: yeah i dated a kelsey as in uh their name was kel and i would see them once in a while i didn't really see them we actually never met anyway this will be the only time you hear from me i love i love like the disclaimer by the way enjoy this text it's the only time you'll hear

48:02Ronnie Karam: for me take a good look it's the last time you'll see these yeah blocked but she didn't block of course um so she's like oh my god this stress is making my wrist worse oh my god i've had limp wrists for years and i still actually i don't really do anything never mind uh so dining table cat is serving lunch and um she's like oh my god hi you guys like lunch and she's like oh my god look at her she's a natural the way she is with everyone it takes charisma you've got to make them feel welcome you've got to make them have conversation she's doing great and um uh then

48:48Ben Mandelker: everyone's like the lunch service is happening jen breaks she drops more stuff she brought she drops a bunch of ceramic mushrooms which is probably for the best because we don't need the ceramic mushrooms on this on this boat but uh you know jen's like i'm sorry i just this my stress wrists my wrist my wrist can't hold ceramic mushrooms when i'm stressed sorry it's a lot

49:11Ronnie Karam: yeah that's my sign to be a person you guys this is my sign to be a person

49:17Ben Mandelker: um so then joe's talking to massey um and joe's like you know we're very happy that you're here bro, how old are you exactly? And Matthew's like, 26. He's like, you're 26, brother, with 10 years of experience. But why do you look like you're 57 with two years of experience?

49:35Ronnie Karam: I've also been smoking that long. No, no, no, I was legal. But my mom got the contract with me because I was underage and I've been working ever since. I was two. When did you first start working? I started when I was 13, 14.

49:51Ben Mandelker: um i think my first paid paying job was when i was i think it was when i was 18 actually i worked in the box office at like an arts festival but i had internships before then i worked for my like local like state representative and i'd go in there i'd move files around i don't know did i have a jobs did i have a job i don't think i had a job until i was 18. and child labor i think it was very good for me to have things to do yes i think you know what like putting children on boats is an age-old tradition in literature so why not

50:31Ronnie Karam: so uh he talks about growing up by the sea and all that stuff i mean we've only got two episodes left how much do we really care not that much i would rather talk about or fish but i love you Massey. Okay, so the producer is like, well, if you weren't a Yachty, what would you do? And he's like, I don't know. OnlyFans?

50:50Ben Mandelker: Yeah, that's a niche audience there, I think.

50:54Ronnie Karam: OnlyFans was too competitive, I think, now. Everybody's on there.

50:57Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's now it's like

50:58Ronnie Karam: tell people, come to my OnlyFans. Don't forget to go to my OnlyFans. I don't think it should be like, you shouldn't have to work that hard for OnlyFans, right? I mean, I know it's hard. Literally.

51:11Ben Mandelker: There's a lot of competition.

51:12Ronnie Karam: a lot of competition a lot of competition it's like you're always running for something but it's like so look at my wiener i don't know nobody needs that for me i don't know why i think about

51:21Ben Mandelker: that i just think god a lot of people are on there so uh jen there are a lot so jen who uh recently uh declared that luke would not be hearing from her again then goes and texts luke she goes you have no idea what's happening this season since you've been gone this is almost my final straw to leave take a long think about that one i don't think that luke is capable of long things first and foremost and second of all i don't think he really cares yeah and you just said

51:51Ronnie Karam: you'll never hear from me again she's like you man child looking ass bitch so joy calls luke now oh thank you for the flower uh thank you for the flowers and jen hears and she's like out of my wrist. Ow.

52:10Ben Mandelker: Because she's in the background. We see Joy's talking to Luke on the phone and she has no idea that Jen, or maybe she does have an idea, but Jen is in the pantry and we can see her in the pantry in the same shot. And, you know, Jen's like... And so Luke says, well, I just received a fucking wild message from Jen and I'm wondering what's really cooking. I don't have time for drama at all. I wanted to send you flowers. That's what I did. What do you mean you don't have time for drama? what are you actually doing with your time? Because you have a lot of time to send texts and love bombs and flowers.

52:42Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And Joy's like, oh, I don't know what she's upset. And we see Jen pissed off in the pantry. And she's like, emotionally, this really hurts my wrist. So then Joy is telling us, I thought she moved on. She practically drew herself to Cooper. And they knocked out. It's very juvenile. Very juvenile.

53:02Ben Mandelker: Too old for the shit. so now jen is goes over to coop and she's like i literally haven't had a crush out a crash out that bad in like seven months and the thing that pisses me off is that he made me look like a jackass i just want to say when she says i haven't had a crash out that bad in seven months i feel like that's still a pretty small window it should be like in 10 years or five years or i've not pushed somebody down the stairs in like happier it was like when on the valley when luke is like i haven't

53:38Ronnie Karam: gone out and gotten like super wasted in over two weeks yeah so uh joy walks to the crew mess to put something in the walk-in and jen's just ignoring her she's like hello coop and he's like well it's only up from here no worry about it it's like i don't know man i don't know dude i'm just i'm just like this season needs to be over do more charters do more charters and Joy just ignores her but behind her back she's sticking out her tongue like stupid and

54:15Ben Mandelker: Joy's like she's fucking annoying to me so Nathan calls Coop up to help and Jen Jen is like well he goes off to the swim platform and then Jen mutters whatever he can take that uncircumcised dick and suck it himself okay

54:36Ronnie Karam: every time she disses him she makes him sound even hotter right because she's like oh my god that's 40 year old with a baby face okay well isn't that good she's like oh my god that's six foot or fine motherfucker dick big enough to suck itself why are you advertising for this guy now i'm like could you could we bring this guy back he's actually sound sounding hotter the more that

55:02Ben Mandelker: you diss him i know so then um in the pantry joe's talking to kelly and joe's like come here let's see what your eyes look like in this one she's like my eyes yeah they're very meal which is honey she's like yeah so everybody's warned me that whatever i'm doing with joe i'm swimming with sharks and like it's not my experience it kind of feels like we both need each other you know when someone's filling in for a role like, I was acting Chief Stu and he's like acting boyfriend. Oh my God. He's like my acting boyfriend and I'm his acting girlfriend. That's so cute that we just have a very shallow, shallow relationship together.

55:38Ronnie Karam: It's not cute, Kaylee, but bless your heart. It's like when someone's like, yeah, everybody tells me that fire burns things, but it warms me. I don't know what they're talking about. so then um jay for everybody okay you just haven't gotten close enough yet to get burned it's gonna happen it's gonna happen so joy is talking to asia and she's like you know when i

56:04Ben Mandelker: go home nobody will look for me you know i wanted to stop yachting because i wanted to have a stable life and then that was too lonely because i have you know the habit to be surrounded with people She's like, yes, it's so addictive. I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about, but I feel like this is what you want me to say.

56:23Ronnie Karam: And Aisha talks about how great her life is because her and Scott both love to travel, and that's why they're perfect together and all that stuff. So then we go to the swim platform, and Nathan's radioing that he wants everybody, he wants to tow everybody on the gigantic raft, so he asked Coop to do it. And Sandy hears us, and she's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Coop, what are you doing here? Did you not see the scene earlier where someone was chosen to drive the boat for daddy? Okay. Joe is better at towing. Okay. You can't spell Joe without maybe changing one letter and turns into toe, which is a different kind of toe.

57:01But it rhymes with the toe that I'm talking about. You get the point. Have Joe toe. Okay. Joe. O. A. B. T. Always be towing. Joe. I. Y-N-J if your name is Joe.

57:18Ronnie Karam: Do your toe. Do your toe. Thank God I walked back there. It could have been coop towing. That would have been a mess. So then we go to laundry and Jen's still texting Liz. And another thought. And another thing. You are so immature for a middle-aged man. It is ridiculous. You need to grow up and you will never hear from me again after this text.

57:43Ben Mandelker: She keeps on aging him up. She's like, and another thing. Now that you're an AARP, I hope you're proud of yourself. Why don't you go sleep with someone your own age with lots of wrinkles?

57:56Ronnie Karam: And Jen over here is Sandy because she's like, wow, those guests are warriors. Look at them getting on a raft, if you told. Those are real warriors. And Jen's like, yeah, sometimes I feel like a warrior. The amount of bullshit I have to deal with. I think all straight men should literally go extinct.

58:13Ben Mandelker: Yeah, you know, a real warrior has to live with the burden of carrying a ceramic mushroom, knowing that each step may be the last for those mushrooms, that is. A real warrior picks up those broken ceramic mushrooms.

58:30Ronnie Karam: Nathan and Masi are talking about plans off the boat. Masi's like, I'll do whatever as long as they pay me. And then we go to Jen and Kat's cabin and Luke is texting Jen back. and she's like, oh, oh, Bloop, guess what we're going to see what this man-child has to say. What is Hottie McCotterson six foot four, barely tight, because his hands are so strong, have to save me. Asshole.

58:55Ben Mandelker: He goes, I'm sorry, but it's my life too, and you don't have authority to decide what I can and can't do. Oh my god, what a disrespectful asshole. Speaking of which, his is bleached and beautiful. And so then Kat comes in, and Jen and Kat are like, like well it's time to get into blacks and everything um and jen's like okay i'm just sorry i've got to text luke again okay honestly luke i don't care enough to have a conversation with you about it fuck off anyway stay in this space i'll be texting back in about five minutes

59:27Ronnie Karam: i'll be texting you back 10 times but also look jen obviously is immature and a weirdo but why is luke even texting back just block her that's what i was gonna say like he like why are you being a

59:41Ben Mandelker: weirdo now see he likes it he likes it i was gonna say if it were me she would have been blocked i would have been like oh she's psycho i'm blocking her she's gonna make my life hell and uh end of story but he likes it he loves he loves it in fact yeah so um the swim platform sandy's like

1:00:00Ronnie Karam: And Nathan, wow, you know, the scheduling decisions. Who's on Anchor Watch, by the way? Joe. And from, when is he on Anchor Watch? Not that I've been giving a heads up on this. I just suddenly care about Anchor Watch schedules. So when is he on? Midnight to six. We switched it back because someone had to wake up. Six hours. Oh, they're going to fall asleep. You can't do that for six hours. That is not going to happen. Come talk to me on the bridge right now. It's either you or Mary Time Law. Get up there. okay come to the hug station he's like well they were complaining about three hours i don't care what they complain about i fired a guy for falling asleep on anchor watch where's joe's schedule he was one and you know it was it was a good one ask him where it is by the way was that the guy who

1:00:46Ben Mandelker: fell asleep was that alex from last you know i'm not even gonna bother asking this but i know it

1:00:51Ronnie Karam: from last season but i do remember some hot lunkhead going up there and falling asleep and they started dragging. It's like, oh my God, what are you doing? Where's that? Listen, where is Joe's schedule? The amount of ink it churned through, wow, it was impressive. But you got to... It went into Joe's schedule, scheduling between three people on Anchor Watch. That was intense. We need Joe's schedule and only Joe's schedule. Get it over here right now. Did it cost$120 to refill the green ink cartridge? Yes. But was it worth it? Absolutely. I kind of feel like you put Cooper to drive that tender because you didn't want Joe driving.

1:01:34Ronnie Karam: No, no, no, not at all. Not at all. And you've got to get your shit together. Okay? Whatever your difference is between you and Joe, that man drove the car this morning. And you need to have some respect. Fix it. Fix it, Nathan. He goes, well, I did a good job annoying you today, didn't I? She goes, no. You need to stop. Okay? This is not the time for jokes. You know, last charter, I feel like it was Joe pouting, and this charter, Nathan's taking out on Joe. This is high school behavior from my deck team, and I'm not going to stand for it. Okay, I'm going to go back inside and take a little nap.

1:02:04Okay, bye.

1:02:06Ronnie Karam: So now Jen, during dinner, is talking to Asha. She's like, I wanted to speak to you because I was really serious. Luke's been messaging me, basically saying nobody should get upset out of a bunch of flowers and that I should quit with the theatrics. okay, you didn't mention the part where you've texted him like 10 texts. Yeah.

1:02:29Ben Mandelker: And H is like, well, it's easy to try just to not think about it. And Jen's like, I'm trying not to. But then I just texted the bitch, fuck off, essentially. And H is like, yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, you get instability for instability. so don't let it cloud every second of your day and my day and please stop asking me about this i'm trying to i'm trying to wrap up my time on below deck as nicely as possible by talking about scott a lot and i don't really want to deal with this let's complain anymore worky worky know what

1:03:07Ronnie Karam: i mean so we go to the swim platform and nathan is telling cooper that his schedule's changed and Now he's going to relieve Joe at four instead of six.

1:03:17Ben Mandelker: So that was a four-hour shift instead of a three-hour shift.

1:03:21Ronnie Karam: What the hell? He still won't listen to Sandy. This guy's an idiot. So then he's complaining to Masi about it. And Masi's like, oh, stop thinking about it, man. It's not going to help you. Okay.

1:03:34Ben Mandelker: So then over in the galley, Sandy goes up to Joy and sees the flowers. She's like, hey, so you got flowers. That's nice. It was Luke who gave it to me. Oh, wow. Well, you know what they say. The person who gets the flowers is the one who most deserves them, and the one who doesn't get them, it's probably because they probably did something wrong sometime in their life and probably let down their parents. I think that's how the saying goes.

1:03:58Ronnie Karam: Wow, Jen really got Norman, huh? So then we see Jen in the pantry, and she can hear this. She can hear everything. And so she's like, oh, they want to see real New York Jen come out? Yeah, they're going to get it.

1:04:11Ben Mandelker: real new york jen new york jen would this be like the next gen new york city i don't know so jen is like let's put her on next gen new york city she's like it's in my name is in the title so then she's like she's like i know i shouldn't get so hyper fixated on luke stuff but it's really difficult i've been a grudge holder literally since i was a child i still hold i'm like you by the way, you still are a child, Jen. She goes, I still hold a grudge with my fourth grade teacher because she called me out for laughing too much. God forbid a child has joy. I'm like, oh, so that's where it happened.

1:04:50Ben Mandelker: That's where her joy went away.

1:04:53Ronnie Karam: And I think it's important to have characters on TV that you relate to. So at least I got this.

1:04:59Ben Mandelker: And there's also something poetic about her tracing so much for psychology back to the moment where she was robbed of joy and now here she is many years later basically attacking joy herself yeah i'm considering herself robbed by joy yes so um she goes back to the laundry cursing

1:05:20Ronnie Karam: i'm in my fella villain era now watch out watch out you've been in your villain era so then we get a camera close-up of the washing machine and it has a post-it stuck to it that says joy plus

1:05:34Ben Mandelker: rags and the smiley face a little the little smiley face cruel um like killing somebody and

1:05:46Ronnie Karam: then putting a little post-it next to it like um i killed this person yeah villain era jen

1:05:52Ben Mandelker: and later on she's gonna she's gonna play dumb like she didn't realize what she had done like what the gravity of doing something like that well at the same time she's advocating for herself to be like seconds to exactly and no it doesn't work i'm leaving the post-it yeah i mean the post-it i mean really so um uh joy uh joy gives massey a dinner plate and he's like in love he's like i think that joy she's like she's fucking stunning man uh you know that little french accent it turns me a little bit you know uh you know they're like well what kind of woman do you normally go for goes, the one that says yes, I have limited options.

1:06:32Ben Mandelker: I mean, look at me.

1:06:33Ronnie Karam: Well, that's a good start. So then Joy is asked, like, what do you think of him? She's like, oh, I like all these guys. How old is he? She goes, 34, 35, 50? I don't know. They're like, 26. What?

1:06:52Ben Mandelker: She can't believe it. So then Kaylee and Jen are washing dishes and Kaylee is like, so is wearing that glove helping your hand? She goes, kind of, but I hate wearing it. It makes me look like an MMA fighter. I'm like, maybe it's the scowl on your face that does that too.

1:07:10Ronnie Karam: So then Nathan is giving instruction to Joe and Joy is saying goodnight. It's just nighttime. Asha calls Scott. Okay, so the next morning, everyone wakes up and Joy comes down and she finds the rags. And Kat's like, you don't have rags upstairs? Jen's on laundry. She should have brought you rags. And Joy's like, I hope she did not put my clothes in with the rags. What is this postage? Joy plus rag? What?

1:07:38Ben Mandelker: And Joy is like, this is fucking crazy. You don't mix rags with personal clothing. Kat's like, oh my god, I would never ever do that. That's like crazy. Well, I don't know why she's a jealous bitch. Because I got flowers. I cannot believe she did that. What a bitch. She's like, yeah, your clothes really smell like shit. It's kind of amazing. So then Joy is like, I can, you know, of course it was intentional. Like I can be very aggressive and I'm starting to be like some volcano inside. And I'm going to make her cry and send her to psychiatry.

1:08:09Ronnie Karam: Oh my gosh, please. Don't make promises you can't keep. Come on. We've needed this from you all season. Please, Joy.

1:08:16Ben Mandelker: Please.

1:08:18Ronnie Karam: So Joy tells Aisha about the rags. And Aisha's like, really? Yeah, I've been boiling and boiling and boiling. and I know if I talk to her, I'm going to make her cry for real. It's your department, you do it. She's like, all right, well, I'll talk to her, be very understanding and believe anything she tells me. All right, you can feel secure with that.

1:08:40Ben Mandelker: I like that Joy is basically like, with great power comes great responsibility. Don't let me unleash on her, because once I do that, there's no turning back. It's going to be a problem, so you should handle this. so then um sandy sees joe and she's like hey good morning joe there he is there you hey wait since your name is joe i have to give you the traditional new jersey greeting there he is hey will you do me a favor and go get me your watch schedule that you made remember that nice one that used up all of our ink toner that was great can you print it out print one out for mom yeah

1:09:16Ronnie Karam: since apparently nathan's not going to listen to what i asked him to do go get this your schedule I forgot to put a gold star on it. Okay, go get that. So Nathan hears this and he's pissed. And Joe's like, oh my God, mommy likes me. Mommy likes me the best. Thanks, Joe. You know what I like? No egos. Yes. Congratulations, Joe, for being the winner of the world. Sorry, Nathan. Winner of the world. Okay, everyone. Now, this giant green blob of ink here, what this one says, well, it's just about to represent midnight. night. And then this giant blob over here of green ink, the one that takes up half the page, that represents 1 a.m.

1:09:55Okay. See, Joe likes to write his times out in abstract green blobs. Okay. Is everyone following the schedule so far?

1:10:02Ronnie Karam: Nathan, you're going to change the schedule for us? And he's like, I don't have a pen, Nathan, or a marker, Nathan, or a stick to start on fire and then blow it out and use that as something to write. Do it on my computer. Get on my computer. stop being like that you're gonna piss me off nathan well it's not today yes today nathan well it's not just that he look because she says hey so i'm like do you can go on my computer and you can change the names and the schedule goes i don't need your computer i have a computer she's like uh don't be like that i was like i was sandy i would have i would have demoted him

1:10:38Ben Mandelker: right then and there he is he is a real piece of work i mean he never should have been elevated

1:10:43Ronnie Karam: in the first place.

1:10:45Ben Mandelker: Yeah.

1:10:46Ronnie Karam: That was an undeserved move in the first place. So now Kat's like, oh my God, there was already drama today. I didn't wash Joy's clothes in the galley rocks and her clothes not like shut and really just didn't look on Kaylee. It's like, you know, I'm just staying out of it. You know, that I love terrible people. So I'm just going to make this work. Make it work. So we go to Swim Platform and Coop and Joe were talking about after the season and Joe's like, yeah i was gonna spend some time with kat and dubrovnik for a couple days and joe's like oh that sounds fun with kat and he's like yeah you want to come oh god you know you don't have to

1:11:26Ben Mandelker: do the secret romance once the charter is over like you know because koop says i've been looking around at things at dubrovnik and i found a cable car that'll take you up the mountain i love a cable car i mean even though we had satellite growing up cable seems cool he goes you know me and Kat, we've been planning to spend two days in Dubrovnik after the charter season ends, but there is a risk that us hanging out one-on-one could create some complications. So bringing Joe on these plans is a way to set up a little bit of a boundary as just friends hanging out. What are you talking about? So what we always knew and always suspected is that he had no interest whatsoever pursuing anything with Kat because now he's saying, well, if Kat and I are hanging out in Dubrovnik and we're letting our now we could be free and open about being in a relationship she may get the wrong idea that i actually want to be in a relationship so i need to add someone there to make sure nothing happens between me and kat and she doesn't think i actually want to be in a relationship even though i told her i wanted to he's pulling the west where it's like oh he's

1:12:29Ronnie Karam: telling her one thing and then acting oh my god she's so into me i hope she's not getting the wrong impression like this will surely get her off my off my tail or whatever but then for her he's like, yeah, let's go do Dubrovnik and spend time with Dubrovnik. He would rather please Joe, you know? It's like, he's choosing his bro. Like, if that's what Joe wants, then he would rather that. I think he would like to spend time with Kat, but if Joe wants to spend time, he would rather do that, you know? And then, of course, I'll treat her like shit the whole time, like she's the third wheel. So then, Aisha goes to talk to Jen, and she's like, the rags with the, what was that about?

1:13:04Ronnie Karam: It's like, oh my god, total accident. Like, crazy. I didn't even know. I didn't even know that's what I did. Whoops. Oh, all right. I mean, I don't want to think this is on purpose. Nope, totally not on purpose. Not on purpose at all. Yeah, my wrist, you know, it doesn't even know what it's doing. It's doing random. It typed a letter last night to the president.

1:13:28Ben Mandelker: And Jen's like, look, I'm not in Jen's head, so I cannot definitively say whether or not it was done on purpose. is and jen's like yeah well because of joy's attitude towards me especially in the last 24 hours i don't feel that bad about it joy hasn't done anything to you she got flowers and you've projected all this shit onto her but um either way jen goes karma's a bitch yeah i'm a close

1:13:53Ronnie Karam: up on the joy plus rags post-it note um so then the guests go on a little excursion they're having great time and um asha and nathan agree that they really like mossy and so we go to the excursion some people want to swim back to the yacht they're like oh i can do it that's not really far at all

1:14:14Ben Mandelker: and okay dumb those dumb bows yeah you're not that it's you that it becomes a whole thing because it's like some the some of the passengers are swimming before they were supposed to but maybe joe gave them some indication that they could do it or not i'm not sure if massey had to stay behind on the tender because someone wanted to swim on a on on a rock and then all

1:14:37Ronnie Karam: this for permission but she says the tender has to stay with them but some of them are already swimming off so they're like oh no and then joe of course is like oh it's a mistake that's not mine it's the biggest mistake ever a boat could come around and run them over this could end everything nathan isn't fit for this job he could have murdered somebody

1:14:57Ben Mandelker: yeah it's like this whole dramatic thing um which was by the way which i enjoyed because i liked seeing joe getting into trouble um for whatever stupidity he was doing i was like you know it's important to see nathan be dumb but it's also oh you're right you're right it was the opposite way

1:15:13Ronnie Karam: the joe i can't believe joe's done this he's almost killed the guests

1:15:20Ben Mandelker: um so uh yeah so it's a whole big drama meanwhile by the way back on the boat uh jen goes up to joy and he's like um hey joy i didn't mean to put your stuff in the in the in the machine with the rags i don't know like i just i think i think it was just the laundry was full and i was also tired or whatever and joy just looks around goes good which i thought was such a funny response to say good um but anyway so there's all this drama we go back to this drama in the in the in the water of like oh my god the guests are gonna get run over by an oil tanker get them out of the way get them to safety we gotta save them we gotta save them and everything's

1:15:59Ronnie Karam: fine yeah everything's fine you know we didn't know we were supposed to go we couldn't go out there. So Aisha is apologizing to Kelly, the blow-up doll, because she got a hole in her. Now she's deflating, and they're trying to taper together so she can hold the bear. And then Nathan gets to lecture. He's like, wow, do you have seen how much boats have been going up and down here? So if they want to come back and see Bobs or swim, they need to do it next to the boat, and that's it, or we're going to kill everybody. Do you understand? Masi's like, I understand. Good, because Joe could have murdered everybody.

1:16:37Ben Mandelker: Marcy's like, yes, I see them leaving, and I still have one or two in the water, so I called you. I told the boys, like, exactly, but that's on Joe, because, Joe, next time you need to wait until the tender's ready to leave and then go. You don't just leave before the tender goes, Joe. Joe, did you hear that a boat sank the other day? That's your fault, too. Okay, sorry about that. Oh, did you hear about the ore fishes that washed up the doomsday fishes? Joe's fault.

1:17:00Ronnie Karam: why does taylor swift keep coming up today

1:17:07Ben Mandelker: joe's fault did you see that joe was at the kansas city game last night instead of helping the people on the cbobs that's on you joe so now it's time for the spinny thing tender drama

1:17:17Ronnie Karam: dun dun dun so joe is like oh i'm gonna tell the people on this spitty thing and then he starts going too fast and it hurts the guests and someone flies off right does someone fly off this thing

1:17:30Ben Mandelker: yes this thing goes crazy so basically the thing looks so fun but joe goes too fast with it and there's a wake and because he has the wake it goes bouncing yes someone there's probably this cat went flying there's no way casting in that thing she is she is halfway to venice at that point she's in the air and um but this one lady she wants looks like i guess she um she dislocates her shoulder or something and she's like ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow it's like oh god oh no captain something we need a medic we need a medic and cat tells us because cat actually does not get flung out she says i'm pretty sure i see a bone like right here and it's supposed to be right here?

1:18:14Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So this was another big one for Joe. So he's messed up a lot. But now Sandy's in the rough position because she's been elevating Joe. And now she's realizing, uh-oh, maybe Nathan and Joe both suck. What should I do? I'm going to reward one of them by making them the Bosa next season. Who will it be? Who will it be? Yeah, so that is below Dick Mediterranean, everybody. Wow. it's a lot of wild bad things that happen on this one but god bless jen she's the best thing that

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