#3539 RHONY S16E2 Part Two: One Good Bessette Summer Left

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1:26Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens. this is part two of a two-part recap if you're like hey wait a minute i didn't hear part one guys it's because we put out a lot of recaps go back and listen to part one okay it's before this

1:41Ben Mandelker: one bye enjoy the show so hayley actually says it best she goes i honestly i black out when she talks to me like i really don't know what she's saying half the time because i'm just so bored she's like freaking strawberry jam and they're like what what's wrong with strawberry jam and She's like, you know the jam on the table? You ever go to a diner and there's jam? And you don't care about the jam. It's just like jam. It's just there. You take it or leave it. I thought that was such a good – At first, I was confused when she said that she was like strawberry jam. But then when she actually contextualized it as just like the generic jam that's on the diner, I thought that was so funny.

2:21Ben Mandelker: But then I also love when Erica's like, honestly, sometimes I put it on my toast. i mean is that weird to like like jam i mean i have john jam tacos i always have time for a taco she's like well yeah sometimes i mean daisy and i were salt like too much you get hypertension like you can't handle it but erin's just jam she's so boring i'd rather read a book and i love that like that like the book is the second second most boring thing she's like she's so bad i'd actually like to read a book i'd rather read carol's book to be specifically like oh wow damn but it's great already it's just great to have a cast member call out aaron for this at last when we the audience have been enduring it for so long it's like thank you for addressing this on screen we're not crazy here yeah so daisy's like oh my god she called her boring boring i'd rather you call me like a bad mother then be called boring well by the episode people by the end of the episode people probably yeah because it's like uh are you gonna do anything for this child's like i'm busy no you do it so then so uh hayley's like it doesn't add i'm gonna call her jammy mcjamster so now it's like things going on around new york city jessel gets an invitation inside gets a cab and then hayley there's like a taco bell drive-through window that's just like an actual window on the sidewalk and she goes up and gets her taco bell and she's like okay honk honk i'll see you later because i'm in a car it's a drive-through okay bye

4:06um and i like that she's trying to make it look like look at me i'm so fun i go to taco bell would you like sauce sure what kind you choose girl they're like we only have strawberry jam Stop pretending. What are you going to put that on a protein bar? Get out of here. So now we go to Psy's apartment and she's talking to her lawyer and she's like, I want to go on the statement and that works. Alright? Here's what we got. House. Car. Car. House. Kids. What do the kids spend? What do the kids want? Jesus Christ is on. Fucking David. I'll tell you this. I've learned from my next marriage. We're getting the prenup.

4:42Ben Mandelker: And then we go to Daisy's apartment and the whole gang is at home. Eugene, her husband is there helping their son quentin with a spelling bee and um quentin spells uh beginner wrong which you know will be a problem and then uh daisy's like do you want to have wine and eugene does not want to drink which we know is an issue for her because he pretended like he liked to drink when they first met and daisy's like that's lighted her yeah and she's one of Or she was just too drunk. Are you sure that you don't want like a little tiny band just with me? I can put it on ice for you. Oh my God, just drink your own drink.

5:21No, I don't want it. Hate that.

5:24Ben Mandelker: And she's like, Eugene and I have been married for 10 years and our main priority is Quentin and we definitely have different personalities. Eugene is like definitely more structured and I am the opposite. And then we see like a montage of him being like, hey, by the way, you didn't close the front door. Oh, you didn't close the window properly. oh uh you lit the coffee table on fire and left the apartment so we don't have an apartment anymore so don't do that again thanks yeah i mean when it's good it's good but like when i lift the refrigerator door open or something then it's not good then i have to hear about it for weeks irresponsibility people who aren't into irresponsibility really piss me off I'm saying that right now.

6:06Did you pick up a kid from school? How so I know? You do it!

6:11Ben Mandelker: So they start talking about having a date night, and Daisy's kind of blowing him off. And then he wants to schedule a vacation or some time or whatever, and she's like, I can't. I can't with my schedule. I can't clear my schedule. It's hard. I can't do it. And then he's like, well, what about doing something tomorrow? And she's like, oh, my God, I forgot. I can't do it tomorrow. So just showing that the point of the scene is that he's trying to get time with her, but he's also maybe being a little unreasonable because she's on Martha's schedule and she never knows what her schedule is going to be until a day or two earlier.

6:47Ben Mandelker: And he's getting frustrated because he wants to plan things out because that's his vibe. Yeah, but he wants a family trip. And you're like, I can't go on a family trip because Martha. What is Martha going to need? Because she only works for Martha. So she's at Martha's beck and call. Someone else is just going to have to do the – someone else can do Martha Stewart's face for a week. Yeah, you can do it. Yeah. Yeah. Good snoop in there. Yeah, exactly. So she says that she and Eugene like bump heads, and Eugene's a hairstylist, and his schedule's more consistent. But sometimes, as a result, she and Eugene are like two ships passing in the night.

7:25Ben Mandelker: And, you know, oh well. So then Eugene does – A stylist is like being an accountant and being a makeup artist is being like an on-call emergency room worker, I guess. Yeah. I'm not really sure why that would be so crazy different, but I guess because she has that one client. And it's Martha. Martha! I'm not sure of her, but her name is Martha. But Daisy has a workaround for this, her crazy schedule, which is that she says that she has installed doggy cameras all around the apartment. And so she just checks in on the cameras when she's remote. And she's like, I could be in Paris climbing the Eiffel Tower with Martha, and then I'm searching the camera, and I'll be like, Quentin, Quentin, what are you having for breakfast?

8:05Ben Mandelker: Tell daddy to call me. You know, the norm. So I love that there's just like this disembodied voice of Daisy going through the apartment, just spying on everyone who's there. Just a robot mom. And while they're showing the kid on the couch spelling with the dad, he's like, beginner, B-A-D-N-L-O. It's like, that was great, honey. And he just ignores her and high fives his dad.

8:36So that's her. That's their thing. And then we go to Maison. Maison clothes for Daisy's brunch.

8:45Ben Mandelker: Woo-hoo! um this by the way winds up being a burlesque brunch and if you heard my oh i don't know if you heard i don't know maybe it's on the upcoming salt lake city recap or maybe it was on something that we already did but i'm just gonna reiterate i don't need performances with my brunch i'm barely awake please please don't put a burlesque performer in front of me while i'm just trying to sit my cold brew um so uh they are uh they all gather at this at this table where they all have assigned seats and everything and uh everyone eugene calls daisy to ask if she turned off the electricity and locked the door before she left she's like yes yes i did yeah i left the curling iron and the gas on jesus christ he sought the place on fire one time and he never leaves you alone about it my guy my rye so erica is uh talking about this is sleeps alone because anchor is on a business trip and she's like oh and i have to stick all of my valuables outside the bedroom door so a burglar will take that and just leave without disturbing me and then i get a knife i sleep with the knife this was erica's best scene in the in the episode i thought she's like so this is what i do because i'm just kind of like you know burglars they just want the goods right so So what I do is I gather all of his watches and I put them in a box and I put them out my door and then I lock the door and I take a knife and I put it under the pillow and I sleep that way.

10:12Ben Mandelker: And we see her doing this and she just puts this box out like it's one of those lazy trick-or-treater homes where it's just like, take whatever you want, kids. She just has it out there. I'm like, well, okay, well, I guess now all the thieves of New York City know where to get their goods. No kidding. It's like the most convenient place to go steal now. Yeah. She just has a little sign there. It's all rented. It's all rented. So she tells us that her husband is the CEO and founder of Built Rewards. And he travels a lot for work. And he doesn't even know that she does this. And he would think she's a psycho.

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13:55All right? I'm gone. And whatever you're going through, I've had it worse.

13:59Ben Mandelker: And Erica's like, is this the one in the Hamptons or the one here? She goes, no. It's my house in the Hamptons. I sent an architect over because it's that bad. And he goes, I had a house in New Orleans, and it was pummeled by Hurricane Katrina. And your house looks like that. so just everyone just take that in for a moment i i basically need to reach out to fema i uh it's tough it's tough so whatever side is going through it just wants you to know that i'm going through something else and i said it first so now jessel comes and aaron starts rolling her eyes and uh they're both giving each other like housewives and just is like i thought i called pest control But the pest is back Roaches are really hard to clear New York City Am I thrilled To be at a lunch with her?

14:53Ben Mandelker: No Do I hope that Daisy doesn't see me next to her? Yes Who says I'm boring? Wasn't that hilarious? Is this as bad as Katrina? Almost So Sly comes And they all yell surprise at her She's like, why? What are we celebrating? Surprise Surprise. Wow. Surprise. You're getting divorced. Wow. Congratulations. You're alone. Hey. Hey. Woohoo. Surprise. You're going to be paying David fucking alimony for the rest of your goddamn life. Where's my cake? Erica's like, I have no idea what we're doing here, but like, whatever. Daisy said it was bottomless brunch. And I was like, okay, say less. I'm in. And then I ate the taco that I had stashed under my husband's pillow.

15:37Ben Mandelker: And then Haley... So, I think that it's Aaron that says this, because they're like, oh my god guys it's brunch what are we gonna order and Aaron's like um I don't even care you guys order stuff because like I'm literally fine to share it's brunch you don't share brunch you don't share brunch brunch is not no no you can do what are you gonna share an omelet no you can share like a muffin tray or something like that this is not like the Hyatt in brunch okay table pancakes are fine like I find that sometimes they'll be like a like if there's something that we all want but like none of us want to just take it on ourselves like a table french toast or a table pancakes but generally speaking yeah it's not a family style thing it's kind of like it's like you get your own eggs that's just how it is um i i'm glad you clocked that because i definitely did not notice her she that she said that and now that you brought it to my attention i'm like furious i was upset so hayley is saying she doesn't she's like i don't even know what's going on i smoked my entire cartridge and a nug of weed and it's only a nug because it was an eighth and now it's dwindled down to a nug because i smoked half of it i smoke weed do you get it very very edgy yo do you guys hear the song that i like my new favorite song my favorite karaoke song it goes like this i i smoked a nug before brunch because i got high and i went to taco bell drive-thru because I got high.

17:07Ben Mandelker: I broke my corkscrew last week because I got high because I got high because I got high. Isn't that funny, guys? Pass that touch. Pass that touch. Pass that touch. Am I right? So Carol comes. She's like, oh, hi, everyone. I'm Carol. And Carol sees Cy and is like, oh, hi, Cy, I met you once before. How are you? And she's like, actually, we met more than once. Oh, we did? Yeah, we met more than one time. Oh, because I remember when we met at that influencer thing. Yeah, and then we met again. And Carol just stares into her face and doesn't give it. She's like,

17:58Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you were the, yeah, yeah, you were the person I ran into in the past six months. That's great. Good to see you again. And Scythe's like, I was in front of your building. It was right in front of your building. She goes, Oh, in front of my building. Okay. That was so fun. Wow. Well, nice to see you again.

18:23Ben Mandelker: Well, Scythe's like, well, welcome to my surprise party. She's like, oh, a surprise? I mean, I think so. I mean, what are we celebrating? I mean, I don't even really have a lot to celebrate right now. And Carol's like, first of all, I hate brunch. Let's go to breakfast. Okay, I like breakfast. I like eggs. I don't need to drink champagne or mimosa with my eggs. I don't think it tastes good. You know what I love? I love Bialy served by guys with beards that look like farmers in Brooklyn. Because I'm hip. So people make a small talk and Daisy, you know, they're talking about their husbands and stuff like that.

19:07And then Cy brings up Daisy's tutor. She's like, oh, how's it going with your tutor? He's 26 years old. You're flirting with your son's tutor. How's that going? And they're like, oh, my God, your son's tutor. And she's like, yeah, guys. He wrote me this text message and it says having a crush on a married woman is actually making me hopelessly fucking stupid. You make me feel like I'm 12 again. isn't that hot you guys wow

19:37just was like 12 years old that's a little creepy i mean even with carol sitting here

19:43Ben Mandelker: and and erin's like like oh my god erin's like just like reading her eyes or just like why that you know that she's just like finding a way that she's gonna spin this and gossip about it like cut to next week i mean it's like kind of crazy right i mean she's like texting with like a tutor Like, really? Who does that? So Aaron is now reading some of the texts that this tutor had sent. And the guy said, if I actually ever implode, I'm probably going to want to completely cut ties. And Erica's like, whoa, saying I'm going to implode is crazy. That's an orgasm. No. No, it's not. Imploding is not an orgasm.

20:27exploding would be an orgasm unless your wiener is pointed backwards which you know i guess could happen maybe you have an orgasm like on top of a rock or something i don't know so anyway this whole thing of the tutor sending her all these love messages is weird and so everyone's looking at her like oh it's like what it's like well maybe you should tell him no i'm married she's like why would i do that like i don't i don't know how to do that like why would i do that like i

20:59Ben Mandelker: can't do that well they're also like did you respond to it and she's and hailey's like she pressed love on it so she daisy gave this thing this totally inappropriate text message a heart and um and then like aaron's like trying to grab the phone like wait wait i want to see it i want to see it and then they're like no no and then like in the in the madness of this like trying to rust the phone away, they realize they've been recording it on a voice memo. Everything they've been talking about, and they all start to scream. And they're like, cancel the voice memo! Cancel the voice memo! JT has two addictions.

21:38Shopping and attention. So, Jaisal's like, that text message sounds kind of like you're leading him on, or made out with him, or giving him eyes for something. How can he be so comfortable sending that to you? I don't know, about that it's like what i didn't i didn't give him the green light and she's like well you need to give him like you need to say i'm married sorry she's like um yeah no the only way i know how to do is ghost but like my my kid still doesn't know how to spell beginning so like

22:10Ben Mandelker: he's literally joining a spelling bee tomorrow and doesn't know how to say beginner like what am i supposed to do so uh they're all just like just is just like looking at her like you're absolutely crazy. Don't you dare come near my child who's going to Tom Cruise's school. So Jessel then leans over to Sai and asks if she's doing okay. And Sai's saying she's doing well. And then Aaron stands up. Because again, it's a brunch to make sure that Sai feels better and for her to know that she's surrounded by love, she's surrounded by support, and that whatever tough times she's going through, she has got her village around her, because today is all about Psy.

22:52All right, everybody, it's me, Erin. So I just wanted to make a toast to you. I love you. You're an amazing person, and I'm so impressed by you every day. Like, you look good, you, like, smile. You really care about your friends who are, like, suffering national tragedies like a broken water pipe and you know like i respect that and you know i think it's important to be truthful about how you feel about your friends you know and like look i'm not going to kick you out of your own party side okay i would only kick you out if we weren't actually friends it's it's not only um tacky and rude is it's not funny or well constructed i'll say that it's a fail on every level, because obviously she's coming for Jaisal, and Jaisal's just sitting there rolling her ass, like, oh god, don't regret it, I'll kick you out again, stupid.

23:47Ben Mandelker: Yeah, and she's made this moment, this toast to Sai is actually just a way for Aaron to get her lick back, you know, by trying to humiliate Jaisal, so it has actually nothing to do with Sai. So then everyone's like, okay, and Sai's like, that was a beautiful speech! And Jaisal's like, is it? Am I cheering for that? Is that what I'm doing? What just happened? That was crazy! Well she kicked me out of her party Last week That was a really big deal for me Yeah I did Because you were being loud and obnoxious I was being loud Cackling hag I forgot about cackling hag Cackling hag Did you give me a cackling hag Cackling hag So Aaron's like You made a speech about me And said I was not even a cackling hag I was a snake And Jess was like, I didn't make a speech about you, girl.

24:42Ben Mandelker: She's like, no, the whole speech wasn't about me. But at the end, you said something and looked right at my face. And she goes, yeah, I said I don't like being called a snake. She's like, well, I don't even know if I called you that. I can't remember what I said, okay? But everything that I said was like in private. Well, you talked about me to so many people at the Ultimate Girls Trip finale party. Marnia Riley didn't talk about you. Then what are you arguing about? why are you bringing it up and arguing about it jess was like well the thing is i didn't think i had conflict with you in that moment all right well i'll explain it to you we have history my dad passed away your dad passed away six months later we had lunch we had a real conversation i felt connected to you and then we kind of kept in touch but not really kept in touch and like i checked on you or like if i saw you in person i'd be like how are you doing and you'd be like okay okay but like that's not even what we had in that moment so it's like why are you acting destined after that moment your complaint is you said how are you doing and she said okay you have nothing as usual or maybe it's just that like maybe jessel like she thought i mean she may have thought like okay we are closer now and then when she reached out with jessel it was like a little frosty or like it just wasn't received the way that she was expecting but that doesn't doesn't mean you then go off and like tell everyone on the girls trip that like jostles like talk shins and it's like crappy or whatever commercials here comes one right now you know those pieces in your closet that you find yourself wearing on repeat the sweater that goes with everything the perfect pair of pants or the tea you somehow always reach for first those are the pieces that make getting dressed easy and that's what quince does best quince focuses on high quality wardrobe staples made with premium materials like 100 % Mongolian cashmere, organic cotton, and merino wool.

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28:48you are talking shit about me i agree and i didn't say anything that was that bad

28:53Ben Mandelker: well okay you did you said she was obnoxious desperate and thirsty

29:01i would never say that about a friend um oh my god carol what the fuck are you doing you don't even know jessel you're supposed to be my friend and this is probably not the best time to let her know that I also talk shit about her to you.

29:19Ben Mandelker: And so, basically, Carol just outed. Now you're threatening to out Carol for you talking about Jessel to Carol as well? Ooh. But I never kick people out of my party, so why don't you throw me out? Because you are being rude. Well, let's talk about, should we talk about the dermatologist that injected me, who you treated like shit, and then all of a sudden a new petty squabble is unlocked now we're on a dermatologist fight will this be a real housewives of london's dentist fight no but it is another example of erin having absolutely nothing so she's like well i have a dermatologist and he injacks me and then you you were really mean to him at a party and then they show a clip of this party where jessel is supposedly really mean and she goes that's all that says so-and-so and she's like oh hello and that's it that's the whole clip of just being horrible to this man yes someone's like do you know this man she's like no so erin's like you thought he was a nobody and you treated him like a little whatever she goes what the fuck are you talking about i still go to him and she's like well he told me this because well i still go to him yeah but like now you're nice to him because you found out that he does martha's botox everything goes back to martha this season this is so stupid and fuck this dermatologist too if i found out my botox person was doing this i would well i mean really what am i going to complain to groupon because that's usually where i get my botox but you know what i mean like you can't do that what are you but also like do that that's like a that's like a a hooker walking away and saying that guy has a small dick.

31:11Like, where is the, what am I trying to say? I guess Carol says it better. She's like, so many HIPAA laws are being broken.

31:20Ben Mandelker: But also this is crazy. I mean, like, is it possible that Jessel had no idea who he was and then found out that he's not only a dermatologist, but like a dermatologist to high profile clients that made her intrigued to want to go to him because she wants to get the best dermatology that she can get. So she starts going to him and then she knows him and now she knows him and she's nice to him because before she didn't know who he was but now she knows who he was so she'll be friendly to him is it possible that that very logical you know path of social experiences may have happened yeah and why are you supposed to fall all over yourself fawning over somebody because they do martha stewart's botox anyway like i'm sorry but you didn't win the fucking oscar award you know what i mean yeah yeah exactly calm down so then daisy's like um he's actually my dermatologist he was mine first and hailey's like i mean is this a popularity contest because like because that is the corniest shit i've ever heard and carol's like i mean who fights over dermatologists who fights over their german who fights with she goes who fights about a dermatologist and then she goes and who fights with their dermatologist

32:32um so jess was like well you don't even have real friends you just invited all of your Botox people. She's like, I'm a million friends, and I'm friends since I'm two, okay? Since I'm high school. Okay, so who are your friends forever? Who are they? She's like, they're in London. Hey, I thought this was supposed to be a feel-good lunch for me. You know, I thought this brunch was supposed to cheer me up, but I'm not feeling cheerful. But to be honest, watching these girls fight is such a good distraction. It's like I'm not actually thinking about my own messy life right now. Alright, now, let me say I'm actually taking ownership Now that I'm just trying to ruin your reputation In front of everybody For dermatologists everywhere I'm truly sorry for talking shit about you, Jocelyn Okay, I should have called you And been like, where's my friend at?

33:21Okay

33:22Ben Mandelker: Okay, well, apology accepted And I'm sorry I threw you out of my party It's not how I wanted it to end Alright, well I got it And I'm sorry So then Haley's like, can I just say one thing? At the party, you were talking to Allison and said that a tit broke my nose, which is true. You didn't lie about that. Yeah, because I don't lie. I don't lie. But to say to a date that I... That's people since I was two. But by the way, I love this phrase. You said that a tit broke my nose. Which is true. Yeah, and it's true. But to say it to someone To a date that I brought She's like well I wasn't sure If she was the one that broke your nose I know but Who would say that Well I was a little tipsy And I was just messing around Sorry She's like not talking to me Right now because of that So that was kind of a big deal I'm sorry Well you didn't have to say that Is what I'm saying Oh my god is this an errand pile on right now because this feels like an errand pile on really because you're the one who started the argument with yes and now you're the one you know who started this shit by doing something stupid and not just saying sorry i feel like this season is an errand pile on because i'm in yeah she's she's she needs one i feel like i'm a freaking deli counter worker giving people numbers it's like number seven oh you hate me okay great number eight oh you think i'm a huge bitch okay a little pastrami a little corned beef a little fuck you with some mustard i gotta agree with erin on this one it does seem like a pylon so then daisy's like okay okay can we talk about love story because i have so many questions for you carol because i'm watching this tv show and carol's talking about how like yeah everyone's been bombarding her with questions non-stop which is her way of saying i don't want to answer questions about this actually and they're like okay got it so here's some more questions yeah but i want to know about carolyn beset like i want to know about her they just asked the question was carolyn beset a bitch that's what everybody wants to do i was like this is as a reminder carolyn beset was like carol's best friend okay here's my question about love story is that the only ryan murphy show that hasn't fucked people over in the past decade like what the hell are people so excited about i couldn't even watch it and i just what i didn't want i'm not saying it's bad i didn't watch it because i've watched so many ryan murphy shows i've been fucked over i just finished the shards and that one really i was i'm so furious about that show where's my ending to that nothing you're giving me nothing so i'm instantly triggered the minute they start talking about a ryan murphy show i got very upset yeah well you know mad about the carolyn beset thing i was like well at least they get at least there was an ending built into that one i mean it was very tragic but at least you know how that ends you know right well i thought that daisy i mean i mean uh jessel asking carol if carolyn beset her long dead best friend was a bitch i guffawed i was like people online are clutching their pearls on Twitter.

36:44Ben Mandelker: They're like, this is so inappropriate. I'm like, you know what? Everyone shut the fuck up. This is the funniest thing I've seen on Roni in two or three years. Okay. I have been waiting for a cringy Ramona moment. This is why we said you got to send her Jessel because she says cringy shit and they took her out of the center of the show last season. And now here she is and she's Jesseling the way we want her to Jessel. And for her to sit there and be like, so your best friend who died, was she a bitch? Because I think we all want to know that. And Carol's like, Jessel, what? Jessel, you can't say that.

37:18It's like, well, okay. Aloof. Aloof. I mean, she's very aloof. What? No.

37:25Ben Mandelker: And Daisy's like, that wasn't my question. That wasn't my question. Don't, don't use up all of Carol's time with that stupid question. And she's like, here's my question. Was she fun? Like, would she vibe with us? Yeah, she was very fun. She's a girl's girl. Like before there was like a thing called girl's girl. I'm like, I don't know what she was like on the show Because I don't watch You know I haven't watched the show You haven't watched it You haven't watched a television show Where two of your best friends Actually died on it And they actually have someone depicting your husband Who also died You don't watch that No no I'm not watching the show You know who plays me You know what don't tell me I don't even want to know I just don't want to know So why wouldn't you watch the show They ask Well I mean okay Well I watched four minutes the other night with my best friend because she's like, oh my God, let's try to watch it together.

38:14And you know what? That was too much. That was just too much.

38:17Ben Mandelker: So then Jessel goes, so what do you think of Carolyn Bessette's summer? You know, like everyone dressing minimal again. She's like, yeah, I don't love that. You don't love that? Carolyn Bessette's summer, CBS. I mean, it's a rival network, but still, if you think about it, it's kind of cool too that it works out that way. Why are you doing that? It's like going back to minimal You know like Calvin Klein classic Like blacks, whites, neutrals I mean you're kind of doing it right now Look at you, CBS, look at that I'm Well I don't know if I want it Because I did it yesterday I was in black and white, I was like oh my god I was like Carolyn Bessette's Summer

39:02Ben Mandelker: And Carol is just like Shut the fuck up Get this woman away from me right now Yeah, she does not like her And then we see Tussle with her team Talking about it She's like, yeah, you know what, we should do Something for Carolyn Bissette's summer You know, minimal things You know what I mean I just want minimal things I just want everybody looking very, very pale Alright, Carolyn Bissette's summer I want it to be that I want it to be that Anytime someone sees me They just think, there she is a vivid memory of carolyn beset nothing but carolyn beset can we do that team i'd love to make skirts that say gone too soon but then on the back it says question mark she might have been a really i mean we don't know so just is like it's a new trend because jessel's like i isn't she's basically saying isn't it so lovely that your late friend is honored by like the fashion world has honored your late friend like people are embracing her style isn't that like so cool for your late friend but carol's just like can we not just like reduce the memory of my best friend into just some you know passing fad that was inspired by ryan murphy you know but jess was like what's wrong with it it's the most amazing thing she's a trend um carol's like a walking human vibe diffuser I mean, listen, if I passed away, God forbid, and someone said, just take summer and wear the most outrageous couture and jewels and look fabulous all the time and told their husbands to shut the fuck up, you know, I'd be like, hell yeah, let's go.

40:42I mean, it's amazing. I know. I don't want that. No. No. So then you're like, okay. Obviously, you don't want to talk about fashion. All right, let's do this. Do you not think that family is cursed? I mean, look how many of them have died. They're just like, alcoholic, dead, dad gets assassinated, mother gets cancer. They both, like, died. I mean, that's horrible. I mean, it's a curse.

41:10Ben Mandelker: One of them even died on a ski slope. Who dies on a ski slope? They are literally cursed. And Carol's like, Carol's looking over to Erica. She's like, this is too much. This is too much. I can't do this. This is too much. It's a lot. And Erica's like, yeah, it's too much. so then erin's like i mean read the freaking room jessel not my room my room looks like katrina dude do you not see that this is her best friend and she's still like grieving i'm like it's not just that it's her husband you dodo does it even register to her that the tragic death of my cousin and best friend might be very upsetting to me i want to strangle her well i'll tell you who probably would have been strangled a kennedy you just have to be careful and so hayley is hayley's like i mean i can tell carol's getting agitated and uncomfortable but i'm staying out of it also i didn't watch it i have no interest in watching it i don't even really know where it's streaming the people at peacock thank you hayley so upset about if there was a raffle here i would have carol pull the number because her number's probably going to come up soon am i right I mean, cursed!

42:24Cursed, I tell you.

42:27Ben Mandelker: So Carol's like, bye! She just is like... I need a nap. So she gets out. She gets out of there just in time. I'm here a street sweeper. Gotta go! So she leaves, and then Aaron goes and leans over and starts whispering in Daisy's ear. She starts saying, God, Daisy, Jessel's a clown chaser. Did you tell Ben about that? She was like really nasty to him. She looked at him and was like, pass the hors d 'oeuvres you know and he was like offended and then she found out like and so basically jessel told the dermatologist to pass hors d 'oeuvres i guess i guess which maybe was rude and so she's just talking shit i think she just looked i think he was like hello and she just looked at him like um okay where are they you know where are the hors d 'oeuvres like she was just rude this guy wanted her i guess to kiss his ass or fall all over him i'm sorry someone just met you and jessel just acted like a complete asshole in this scene so it's weird to stick up for her after she just acted like that but i think the clip we saw of her saying hello how are you is perfectly fine aaron she's like oh my god clout chaser and if she's such a clout chaser why'd she just run the person who was married to jay you know a kennedy out the room you know what i mean yeah just ran the princess out of the room so a literal princess uh unless i mean is Was Aaron implying that Jessel already knew this person?

43:50Ben Mandelker: I don't even know. But Erica is like, this is the first time I'm realizing and understanding a bit of what Jessel was trying to warn me about with Aaron. Because how can you just make up with someone and then two seconds later be talking shit about them again? Make it make sense. Which is good because I like that all the newbies just don't like Aaron and are onto her shit. And Erin, who spent two seasons thinking that she was the one ruling the roosts and being the mean girl and talking shit about everyone behind their backs, now she's on the outs with all the new people. And the new people are cooler.

44:26Yeah. Yeah, fun times. All right. Well, that brings us to the end of Real Housewives of New York City. We will be back tomorrow with some Salt Lake City, the Salt Lake City premiere. And on Friday with Real Housewives of Orange County. We will talk to you next time, guys. Thanks for being here.

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