#3541 RHOSLC S7E1: Homegoing

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1:29Ben Mandelker: Watch What Crappens

1:58studio to like a little meeting booth it kind of looks like prison but i don't know i think it

2:02Ben Mandelker: looks cool it's cool like nice neutral gray background it's better than mine little office background yeah i'm in childhood bedroom still recording from there today will be my last day from the childhood bedroom and it's the day after i know you know we always love that hotel wi-fi you never know what you're gonna get um uh today pad in here and look someone made a palm tree well well well crap secrets if you will it's just a fellow maybe it's a fellow Acast podcaster like well we know now we know the next episode of Iris Podcast is going to be about palm trees I think I'm the only podcaster who's like can I use your meeting booth to record in we record 20 hours whenever they schedule me here they're like okay well we've got you in there for an hour and a half I was like oh this is lots of crap and there's no hour and a half here okay it's gonna be six hours that's correct in the meeting room well today is a very big day uh today we have the we're talking about the season premiere of uh real housewives of salt lake city before we get into that um we're going on tour in a few weeks like basically in just over two weeks somehow um we are starting our in the mix tour at kansas city kansas city mo then And Chicago, that's going to be October 3rd and October 4th, respectively.

3:29Ben Mandelker: And then we're going to Minneapolis and Detroit later in October. We'll also be going to Philadelphia, D.C., Dallas, Austin, Houston, Nashville, Clearwater, Fort Lauderdale, San Francisco, Salt Lake City, Denver, Charleston, Atlanta, Seattle, Portland, Toronto, Boston. And finally, New York City for the Golden Crab is February 25th. That's the end of our tour. And we will be celebrating 15 years of podcasting by the time this tour ends. so go to watchacrappens.com get your tickets but we're definitely flagging high alert go get your tickets for kansas city and chicago because that's coming up super fast normally we like to give several months heads up but why not be crazy and give you guys just several days heads up so here we are uh go check out check out those those shows we'll see you there on the road we're excited.

4:18How long it took me to draw Bueller? There he is.

4:22Ben Mandelker: Let's see. Wait. You just drew Bueller like that right now? Yeah. Those are little Bills. First of all, that was really good. It's also really cute. You should make that up. Why don't you scan that in and make it into a Crappens t-shirt. A Bueller. I just want someone to come in here and be like, well, it's not a palm tree. It is a Bueller. I wonder who's in here. I'm looking for a tchotchke on my desk to show the world. And look at what I drew. You've got your air conditioner behind you from childhood. I think that that's all we really need. I love to see that a couple of times a year whenever you're home visiting.

5:03Ben Mandelker: True. I've got air conditioner. I've got the printer. I've got childhood stuff here. There's a photo of me as Dan Rather in the school play over there. You want me to go grab that photo and put it up on the screen? Yes. Can you vamp for seven seconds? Yeah, sure. Why not? Yeah, so I'm just in here drawing, and I'm watching people because it's a glass booth, so I'm watching all the people who work here. Okay. You guys want to see? You just saved a bunch of A-cast people from being ragged on. Oh, my gosh. That is so cute. We have – this is a fourth-grade school play. Starting here, we have – this is – oops.

5:45Ben Mandelker: This is Chris Wirth. That's me. That's Randy Wilson. That's Alyssa Friedman. In the back, that's Arvin Penumblom. Wow. That's so good. What was the school play that you were playing Dan Rather? I think it was about fairy tales. And I was Dan Rather, and I was investigating the Big Bad Wolf or something like that. And Randy was playing Diane Sawyer. I remember that. So we were representing CBS. I was Dan Rather. She was Diane Sawyer. I don't remember who Alyssa was, but she was obviously part of the media. She was part of the press corps. And I think Chris was Walter Cronkite. And I don't remember who Arvin.

6:27Ben Mandelker: Arvin may not have been a media member. Arvin may have just been in the background while we were the press corps. Well, I'm shiny. And so I'm wiping my face. There's also a photo of Geraldine Ferraro downstairs. But that's my brother. It's a photo of my brother with Geraldine Ferraro. This is the Salt Lake City premiere. And I think a lot of us were wondering, how is Salt Lake City going to handle the tragedy of Robert Jr.? Because, as we all know, he passed just days before they started shooting. It's such a heavy thing. And I think the show did a very nice job. I think they honored him very beautifully.

7:10Ben Mandelker: and it was a very lovely episode you know this show is known the last season it started to teeter into silliness and like on-screen gags and like the stuff that always makes me concerned about like oh no they are they are starting to run out of material because they have to do a lot of like silliness on screen so it was actually very i really enjoy that we just actually stayed present with women and like they weren't trying to be super funny obviously they couldn't do that anyway i thought it was a very nice episode what'd you think well i started laughing when you said teetering into silliness because this is salt lake city i mean it's the silliest one on bravo but i know what you mean like with the wow here's a wacky gag let's put some 80s font up while they do 80s things or what yes um yeah i thought they handled it really well i was crying i we're doing this early because you know we're both in the city it's it's we've got a lot going on this week episode wise we've tried to fit one in early so i woke up this morning to take notes and i was just in the bed crying you know because you know obviously death and then i don't know the whole thing is just so sad i thought they dealt with it really well um i do worry because it's a season of salt lake city and this is the funniest show on tv and so i I literally don't come here to feel things.

8:35That said, things happen in real life, and sometimes you do have to feel things. And it was just brutal, and I felt so bad for myself for having to watch. No, I'm just kidding. I felt so bad for Mary. I mean, the whole situation is just awful. And it opens with Mary talking to her cousin, right?

8:56Ben Mandelker: Yeah, this was actually a heartbreaking little scene that they put in here. It's right when Robert has gotten out of jail and she's saying, you know, oh, I'm just so glad to have him back and he's in his room. But, you know, at least he's sober now. And the important thing is keeping him sober. I'm just so thrilled to have him back. And, you know, it's like three months or a few weeks later or whatever it is. Yeah. That was really heartbreaking to see her optimism after he got back from jail and he was telling her cousin Joe, like, I'm clean. And so even though it was rough, it's like, okay, like we can, like this fresh start, like he's home, we can take care of him.

9:40Ben Mandelker: and so then it fades to black and we see it's like three weeks later and the they show all this footage of sort of clouds gathering dark clouds it's just and then it's just sort of we go through each one of the housewives as they sort of recall what happened when they found out and they're all they're all devastated and it's it's real you know i mean i think it's i think it's it's just a it's a horrible situation and so it starts with angie and she's saying that she was with Elektra, and then Mary called her, and then her heart sank. And then Angie called Heather, and Heather says she could just hear from Angie's voice that something terrible had happened.

10:26Ben Mandelker: And then Whitney and Justin were crying. And I mean, what's so fucked up about this show is this is truly one of the saddest things that's ever been filmed on The Housewives ever. This scene, and it's just like it's gut-wrenching and they cut to Whitney and she's crying obviously because it's terrible and then she goes I was wondering how can this be real and I'm like god damn it why did you have to say that line why are you making me laugh right now it's still Salt Lake City you know I was thinking that as they were doing these scenes because you know like you said it's a touching thing but at the same time it's so camp and so Salt Lake City it's like okay well what do you think lisa well john was in the other room and then i heard and i i said give me a glass of water and then i just started screaming

11:20the little salt lake you're like we don't need the accents we don't need the you don't need the choir yeah they can't they can't help themselves but um you know just go through all the ladies talking about how sad all of this is and then um and we go to angie's house and angie's standing in the middle of her gigantic kitchen being sad with just those big gold ball things above her and um people start coming over to grieve you know yeah and she's a ranger when someone passes

11:53Ben Mandelker: yeah so she's got she's putting together all these grapes on a plate like lots of greek food and everything i am greek still and uh whitney says whitney announces that she's i've learned the hard way that times like this is not the time for me to drink and heather's like really um and on camera publicly being wasted and making an ass out of myself after an entire season of calling someone an alcoholic which he doesn't say but That's what's unsaid to the rest of us. So Lisa arrives. I'm a new person now, and I've changed because I got caught out in public. Let's be real. It's Whitney 2.0. So Lisa shows up, and she's like, hey.

12:44Ben Mandelker: Everyone's arriving very seriously. She's like, hey. And Angie's going. Hi, you guys. Listen, I know you're surprised that I could find this time in my schedule But I did And Angie's like, let us be nice to Lisa today I know, I thought that was funny So then Lisa's like, I keep taking my jacket on and off Because it's like hot and then it's cold and then it's hot And Angie's like, well, it's called the weather Or it's also called perimenopause Just kidding And she's like, no, I have my labs done No, it's not that. It's not Perry or anything. I had my labs done. Yeah, I'm actually on my period right now.

13:25I'm on my period, not on pods.

13:29Ben Mandelker: They're like, okay. And Heather goes, yeah, I can last till you're 70, Lisa. She's like, stupid Lisa. Wait till I tell the other girls on the franchises about this. so they all gather around and they are um they're sharing more stories and angie angie tells this story that's so sweet she says that she um she and electra brought stuff over to mary's house for christmas and robert came downstairs and told electra that she had nice eyes and and angie was like he was i mean like i thought what a sweet love what a sweetheart and then they start reflecting that you know um robert was okay what did you do over there faster over here i'm not did you i might try to tell this very sad and i'm like oh i need to get comfortable in this chair

14:25Ben Mandelker: yeah very sad like they're reflecting about how robert was her only child and that's just made him even more her world they just can't even imagine and then angie says that mary will you know she keeps saying oh well robert's with god he's with god it's good but then she'll look out the window and say i'm never gonna see him again it's just like each passing reflection is just heart-wrenching to listen to um and uh they're just you know it is and i you know i put that stuff to the side in my real life even though it's been happening in my real life um on a personal level well i guess that is your real life but you know there's part of me that's thinking about that and you know my own mom's death so i'm getting upset over that but i'm also repressing it the same way that i try to do with everything and so i was just i mean it was just like such beautiful gay repression because i was sitting there watching and i was like this is so sad but god everybody looks so pretty you know and then when they kept cutting to everybody i'm like oh my god her new face looks so good and like her new fillers look so good and bromwood's outfit is so beautiful she's wearing this like multi-colored ombre blue floor-length sweater thing and i was like god you guys really know how to grieve like every single one of you looks fucking amazing i don't know they really stepped up to grimy i don't look like that really ever but jesus especially grieving it's like i'm walking out with like donut crumbs on my face and you know like boogers dropping out my nose and stuff and you guys are like wearing floor-length ombre like what the hell yeah i i loved actually angie's dress she's wearing this like a black dress but it sort of was structural and it was both like respectful to the moment but also like looks great um so uh yeah they're just sharing more about like you know bronwyn offered to get mary an outfit for the funeral and mary is like no no you you look good because that's what he would want it because he loved clothes so much.

16:29Ben Mandelker: And so, Heather's like, you know, we all have the shared concern that we have definitely taken each other for granted in our sisterhood and probably have been very careless with the bonds that we have. You know, she's doing her two-finger point. It's like, we're being careless with the bonds that we have, but something like this should remind us of how fragile our relationships are. In these moments, we're going to need each other to go after Lisa together as a group. Who else is with me? And someone's like, oh, you know, Lisa's been dropping off stuff for Mary to share. And Lisa's like, yeah, you know, like in times like this, you really need to remind people chicken nuggets from Wendy's and like Vita tequila.

17:16That's where it's at. It's like really important to understand. You're welcome. I just dropped off Mary a framed autograph this morning. I hope she appreciated that.

17:26Ben Mandelker: Can I say something? I cry when I talk because my heart is heavy right now for a lot of reasons. And we all have things that we need to work on for real. And I have things I want to apologize for. And then it just cuts to Meredith being like, and Lisa being like. My head is tilted. My eyes are wide and looking to my shoulder. I will not be discussing this right now. But I will glare at you. That's what you're referring to. And I know you're not going to use somebody's child's death to get out of something awful that you did to me at Bravo. Hold on. I mean, Whitney does have a lot of things to apologize for.

18:09Ben Mandelker: But right now is not the time or the last. So, Whitney. Yeah, because she knows. Whitney's just going to try and come in here and brush everything off. Like, this is sad time. Sorry. Now we're moving on. Like, no, you just literally were on somebody's ass a whole year for being an alcoholic. This is going to need to at least wait until lunch in two episodes when your ass can be properly ripped into. Okay. That's right. Thank you. Talk to me like rescinded. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial. Losing weight can be like trying to roll a wheelbarrow up a hill. You can do it, but it's so much better and easier with support.

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22:25Ben Mandelker: So I'm going to try making it, which I dare to dream, Lisa. Dare to dream. I hope you're able to find the way and the strength, the fortitude, and the stamina to make it through the complicated recipe that is grilled cheese. Also, I don't know how well it's going to work because the bread is very thick and you're putting it on a frying pan. You're going to have to put that into an oven of some kind. Or cover it. You have to cover it with a lid. Oh yeah, that's true She ain't gonna do that though But I was worried that Lisa was gonna do Another season where she's like Look, I cook Like I totally know how to do this Do you remember when I made asparagus?

23:05I made that one time Yeah, I was like Please, we don't need this from you But then she's like Hey John, John, I don't know how to turn on that stove That burner thing Could you do that?

23:18Ben Mandelker: Good luck with this grilled cheese so John's like whoa she's then like grating cheese with a cheese grater and John's like whoa you do get dangerous with that cheese grater and she goes oh my gosh it terrifies me I'm like trying not to be afraid this is like the scariest thing I've ever done oh my god my fingers are so close to the grater oh my god John it is terrifying I mean I've sliced myself on stuff a million times and burned myself I don't know why she's even allowed in the kitchen just stay out of there okay so Jack's like mom what are you doing in the kitchen what's the occasion and oh no that's Jack so he's like mom what are you doing I've been away mother how's it going in the kitchen it is so nice to be having a lovely home cooked meal in America with new hair non mushroom top hair and Henry's like what's up legend he's like what's up legend I'm like oh gosh I need to leave this scene.

24:17Ben Mandelker: So Jack is like, hey, can I get one of those without goat cheese? He's like, no! You like goat cheese, remember? Remember Jack? He's like, fudge, goat cheese? Wait, are you saying you want goat cheese with fudge, or are you saying you don't want goat cheese at all? I can't keep up. How was your date? I was telling Dad I get conflicted when you bring girls home. It's really weird. You shouldn't do that to me. And John's like, uh, just because it's been so many. He's like, yeah, legend. Henry thinks he should be doing what you're doing at 14 and 21. Henry's 14. He wants to have lots of girls around.

24:57Ben Mandelker: So Lisa says, Jack went on a mission for two years and like he's been home for six months. And it's hard to have an adult person living with you, especially one that like lived on his own for two years in like a city that had Michelin restaurants in South America. And it's just like, it's like, Jack, like stop bringing girls over. Like, you don't even know them. Like, why do I need to know them? Yeah, it's so weird, like, being with Jack as an adult now, especially since he's lived his own life, you know? Like, he's got his own things that he does every day now. Like, every morning, knock, knock, knock, ding, dong.

25:32I'm like, what? And he's like, can we tell you about our spiritual leader, Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? I'm like, oh, my God. Enough. You like goat cheese. Don't you remember? Come back to me.

25:48Ben Mandelker: What happened to the days of enjoying Chevrolet? There's my boy with the goat cheese. Am I right? He's still in there. I know he is. So Lisa says, I told Henry, you're not allowed to date. And Henry goes, I'm not dating. I'm just kissing them. Oh, legend.

26:14Yo, he got close He gotta close that, Mom Ledge By the way, if anyone is wondering If there's an earthquake happening here There is not My laptop is propped up on the trash can A little wobbly over here Perfect Me, Henry, will always be baby gorgeous And now baby G wants some other ladies, baby G Was that dirty? That sounded disrespectful kind of the way I said it, but I didn't mean it like that. It sounds like baby G like wants to get some girl's goat cheese. That also didn't sound right. Hey, non-sexual way to say this.

26:56Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Hey, stop. Hey girls, stop calling Henry. I want all the girls to know I'm monitoring his phone and you're on speakerphone and I hear everything. And if you come over, you're going have to eat some goat's milk feta. Sorry, that's the way we roll. So the kids try the grilled cheese and they're like, actually, Mom, this is pretty, it's cheese and bread and butter. What is there to complain about? So now the kids are just like, yeah, you know, I don't date the ladies, I just kiss them, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, high five, Legend, high five. Okay, we're off to church. I'm going to go to church now.

27:32Ben Mandelker: Okay, have fun. Have fun at church. so then Lisa and John talk about Mary and Robert Jr. and how sad it is and Lisa's saying you know he was so brave by being so honest you know on national television about what he was going through and we need to have a safe space John and he's like yeah I've been thinking I don't know that I can put it into words properly but last year remember that time I was mean to you at lunch I know you're still harboring that. So I just wanted to say I've learned my lesson. And what I've learned is that Whitney should probably drink less. Oh my gosh. Thank you so much, John, for saying that.

28:16Ben Mandelker: Do you have anything else you want to add? Everyone loves goat cheese. You'd be crazy not to. Oh my God. Thank you for saying that, John. Yeah. Why do you think you were in a bad place last year? Well, everything was going wrong for me. I felt like it didn't seem like anything was working out and you've got everything working for you. And I guess I was jealous. I'm like a man. Can I have some of that luck come on to me? Oh, John, thank you for your emotional honesty right now. You really are a safe refuge. There's a lot of pressure in the church to be perfect. And the last two years, John had lofty business goals and he had two deals that were taking so long and just made him spiral.

28:58Ben Mandelker: But now, he's not spiraling anymore because you remember that he loves goat cheese. It was really difficult for John. He had a couple of businesses that didn't really go well, like Fresh Wolf. It's really hard when you're trying to get people to moisturize your face, but all they want to do is rub their skin with the gorgeous chicken fingers and french fries you're selling from Wendy's. At least he came to terms with that. he's like well you do so much for our family the way when we come to you with our problems you just look on your phone you say hold on one second i just need to finish sending this text and then we wait for 10 minutes and then you forgot that we were waiting for you and you go to the other room that does so much for us and i was struggling to hold on to get that win and i just i can't say sorry enough because yeah he really is not a winner oh sorry because what i'm Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.

29:51I thought it was a period.

29:53Ben Mandelker: It should have been. I'm still getting mine. By the way. But yeah, John was really upset. And you know that he's really groveling because he's like, wow, you know, I think that everybody watching this right now understands how good at Lisa is at communication. And they cut to the flashback of last season where he's like, yeah, like we need to communicate. She's like, I'm really great with that. Like, I'm really great with listening. And he's like, yeah, right. yeah but they hug and she's like john doesn't apologize at all like when he does he really means it like when he says i'm sorry that you felt like you had to throw my watch out the window i'm like thank you but him being vulnerable makes me feel that way like way closer to him there's like only one person whose opinion i care about and it's his just kidding it's not it's mine it's the opinion that i give him to say that's the opinion i care about so they hug and then we go to pickleball and it's bronwyn and whitney of course arriving to play the most basic ass clocky the fucking sound of pickleball even the sound bothers me and yes i've been to play all you pickleball lovers okay i get it i went to play with my friend and let me tell you something it hurt was this pickleball or did it wind up being padel because that's happened to us a few times on bravo where we're like oh it's pickleball but then it's paddle paddle paddle paddle because the paddle paddle ball has the thing where you hit it up against the wall right like the glass yeah i don't know life is hard i really don't know so they're girlfriends now guys they're like supes close they got really close in the off season and whitney's like yeah Life has been really heavy.

31:43One thing I know that will always make me feel better is the exercise with my friends. When we're in New York, we really bonded. And now we're playing paddle ball. Now we're together. For real.

31:57Ben Mandelker: I felt so bad because they show just footage of people playing paddleball I mean a pickleball in these courts and there's this one random girl who hits the ball into a net and you think okay whatever that's kind of embarrassing they chose your shot to be on the show and then Bronwyn actually goes oh my god that girl just hit the net I feel better because I feel like that's what we'll be doing stupid stupid pickleball player I was like man this lady was just trying to have to play a game in privacy one thing I want everyone to notice in this scene are how terrible the extras are. I know. I think terrible.

32:30Ben Mandelker: Whitney and I have noticed that other people have noticed that we notice each other. There's a little zazu with Whitney and I. Or I should say zazazu. And there's like, you know, something that just syncs up about us. So they're trying to allude to the fact that there may be some sort of like lesbian chemistry between them. To which I am going to groan because I know it's just going to be them. This is going to be Andy. Andy is going to be having wet dreams over this oh my god i can't wait to ask this for 15 minutes at a reunion do you guys ever have sex do you guys ever figure do you guys ever lick each other's vaginas tell me everything yeah but this is this show so they'll rescind you know because it's like when they did the thing last year where they're like oh my god you know like why would i sit around waiting for todd like if i want to date somebody i'm gonna date somebody yeah me too what's the point in being in a closed relationship when you can be in an open relationship sister and then at the region they're like what open relationships that is absolutely not what we were talking about talking about um so uh they they are playing they're they're playing pickleball but they're also uh ronan's also talking about todd and so while they're playing she's like uh when else would you talk about your senior citizen husband it's like let's find the most senior citizen anything we could do?

33:52Can we do a scene at Water Aerobics? I'll use that one up on Orange County, guys. We've got a sponsorship deal with Pickleball. Can we just do that?

34:03Ben Mandelker: So Whitney goes, are you going to bring anyone to the service? It's not the prom. Why is she asking? Is this like the climax of Back to the Future? Why are you asking who she's going to bring to the funeral? don't accidentally invite your dad because he's young and hot so bronwyn says wasn't like wasn't alex p keaton kind of in love with his mom or was his mom in love with him mom was in love with him in that one mom was in love with him by accident she's like oh my god calvin klein so um so bronwyn uh bronwyn saying that she doesn't want to go by herself and that Todd offered to join her, but he's not going to join.

34:48Ben Mandelker: So, that's nice of him. And when he's like, wait, what does Todd think that you are right now? A human. Oh, he didn't think you're like a robot or like a box of fruit roll-ups or like a mattress. What does he think you are? Well, you know, this whole time he's been wanting to talk and figure it out and I'm just, Ow! I hit my thumb. Look, when I hit my thumb, it cracked open.

35:20Ben Mandelker: Brownman's like, the power ball. Okay. So they go inside. She gets bandaged up or whatever, and they're sitting inside sweating. And Brownman's like, okay, back to me. So I'm always the one that's like, we're not going to see each other. And it's over. We're separated. And him and I, it's like, as a duo, we had night fun banter. and we're good in front of other people. But when it was he and I alone, it wasn't banter. It was an argument or I just didn't say anything. And I just got tired of arguing. So I just stopped saying things. And Bronwyn's like, so I surprised Todd. I'm surprised that Todd didn't do anything for my 40th Bob day.

35:55Ben Mandelker: And there was no gifts, no party, no trimming up of the Bob, making it look extra nice. And it's my first birthday. Since my dad passed, I'll just add that in there. And that was really the death of it. That was it. That was it. that's valid you were born with a bob and somebody should be there to celebrate bob's birthday sometimes you don't need words you need actions yeah but you know while i was married to todd i mean you're still married to todd by the way but there were times you know i was angry and i wanted to talk about it but it wasn't beneficial when you're trying to work through it and stay in it and i've just realized that i need space for todd i just need space and no i'm not getting a divorce right now because I don't feel like I need a divorce.

36:36And also Todd has squirreled his money away. He's not an idiot. So I will still be with Todd and have a really hot boyfriend on the side. And we see a picture of her boyfriend and... Yeah.

36:51Ben Mandelker: So when he's like... So, with the Brandon of it all, when I met him at Sundance, it seemed like he was like, don't tell anyone. But then, a week later, it was like all over the internet and she's like well the new thing is really fun and I can feel myself smiling as I'm talking about it and he is darling and he is great and clearly as everyone knows when you're recently divorced and you wind up dating a model that's going to be a forever relationship you know Brandon Good this is a gentleman I've been seeing it's 32 and we've spent all of New York sorry New Year's Eve together I saw NY and said New York I mean it wasn't New York because we were fashion week We did that together.

37:33We've been to so many places together. A friend said to me, you guys kiss on New Year's Eve? I mean, you could say that. You could say a lot more.

37:45Ben Mandelker: I'm in this phase of if something feels right, I do it. And if it doesn't, I stop. When he's like, wow, and he's not bad to look at. It's like, I'm aware of that. So, we have talked me to death. So, what are we going to do about you? You've got about 30 seconds before we start talking about me again. Well, obviously, I have something to apologize for with Meredith and Lisa. Oh, was it that you were accusing Meredith of being an alcoholic all season and Lisa of calling blogs that you had no proof for, except proof that you made up from a YouTuber? and she's like no it's because i i said that they were bitches at bravo con and they were filming me and then we go to a drag brunch in brea california oh it was the drag brunch you're right i keep saying bravo con it was the drag brunch and so at this drag brunch whitney's on stage and goes meredith is a fucking bitch i hate her and then some lady goes is lisa as big of a cut fitness person as she comes across on tv I actually support cut fitnesses Even if I don't like them Ha ha ha ha Well that was a very poor choice for me to make I was at a drag brunch And so they were egging me on This is what drag queens do This is what they do It's the drag queens fault Okay I'm never I'm never going to a drag brunch again From now on, drag dinner only, because then you won't get egged on, because eggs are for brunch.

39:27Ben Mandelker: Like, um... By the way, I have to... Have extra dinner as well. Oh, no! Wait a second. Is there any meal that doesn't involve eggs? They can really be served any time. Oh, man. I'm so sorry. I don't even know what's happening to me anymore. Oh, so I decided that alcohol is not serving me. I'm serving it. So you're a waitress now? Huh? Nevermind. You're serving alcohol. Yeah. So can you get me a drink? Oh, what do you mean? I'm serving it. Did you mean to say you're serving IT? Are you into tech now? what okay no i i should never have gone down that path huh i went from a social drinker to using alcohol to cope with my struggles at home i was like oh god whitney is gonna pull out this whole thing now i'm so sure i'm not giving this to whitney i'm sorry this is suddenly like i got in trouble so now suddenly i'm gonna have this storyline where everybody has to be nice to me because i'm gonna talk about drinking girl please i don't believe you for two seconds that you are stopping drinking or anything and by the way i don't care i'm not even judging you for it i'm just saying take responsibility for the shit you are doing i hate when people come on here and they're like but it's because i maybe drank too much and now i'm thinking about it and then soft music has to play and then we all have to be like well whitney's making an effort so let's just get off whitney's ass no yeah this is what whitney you should never have gone to that drag brunch that was the problem by the way i have to say queens do florida is trying to tell you guys i fully 100 support the drag arts they're fabulous i personally have zero interest in going to a drag brunch only because it has nothing to do with drag it doesn't it could be like any i don't want to go to any sort of something brunch it's too much it's too much i cannot i cannot have anyone on a microphone while I'm eating my brunch.

41:47Ben Mandelker: Cannot do that. Like, let me have my eggs. You don't want any kind of like Crapins brunch or just any brunch where they're, you know, talking. There's a performance. I just want brunch to be like me with my friends and I'm quiet and I'm drinking my coffee. I'm coming to life and I'm eating my eggs or avocado toast or French toast or whatever it is. I would not be. It's not. It's actually probably not even so much the performers or the production. It's probably just the other people at the brunch. There's a lot of, I'd be like, no, I'm gone. You know, I go to drag brunch fairly often, a few times a year at least.

42:24And I take my nieces and my sister, and they ask to go every time they come in town. And then they're like, oh my god, I cannot believe they're using this language, my sister. It's like, that is inappropriate. I'm like, we're at a drag brunch. She's like, but there are children here. Like, there are children in a drag brunch. What are you going to do? And yell at the parents, not the drag queen. But they love it. They ask to go every time. But I will say drag brunch is dangerous because you're sitting there and you're eating. And it's, you know, it's like breakfast food. So it's breads and potatoes.

42:53Well, it was my whole life anyway. But then you're running the risk of, like, being told off in the middle of a bite of something. And everyone's looking at you while the drag queen's giving you shit on the stage. So for that reason, it's pretty dangerous.

43:07Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I just don't want, I don't, first of all, I also just generally speaking, if I'm eating food, I don't want, like, I don't like, like, live music or anything. I just don't. Yeah, that makes sense. I generally just don't like live music. And, like, unless I'm going to an actual proper concert. But, like, when people say, oh, like, there's a band that plays at this bar. I'm like, see you later. Have fun. No, I get it. But I'm an old dinner theater queen, so I don't like people having dinner while I'm trying to perform. You know what I mean? It's like the opposite. I would hate it. I can't imagine what it must be like.

43:46How dare you? But anyway, also, one more thing I don't need at Drag Brunch, Whitney.

43:54Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I don't need Whitney at Drag Brunch. Why? Why? I think this is the underlying problem we all need to discuss. Drag queens. I get that we need to get people in the seats. Not Whitney. Okay? It's anything else. It's like the furthest thing from drag. Yes, seriously. I mean, I will go to a drag brunch. If someone says, man, will you come to a drag brunch? I'm like, sure, I'll go. But just know, I will be on the inside saying, this is too much. It's too much. Too much. I'll honestly turn it to Vicky, which is very sad. But again, it's nothing to do with the drag. It has nothing to do. It's just any sort of brunch.

44:33Ben Mandelker: If someone was doing a... I would do an Ina Garten brunch. If Ina Garten was up there and she was talking and we were having brunch at a table at a ticket event, I would do that. Because I could deal with an Ina Garten level of energy. But anything else, really, I don't... It's too much for breakfast. I can't do it.

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47:12Well, obviously, I was carrying around fillings for Lisa and Meredith, but there's other things going on under the surface of my marriage to Justin. You see her being like, Justin, that hurt my feelings. I do not like what I did or said, and I felt really bad about it. I'm hopeful that apologies will be accepted. Lisa will probably be more receptive than Meredith. I just wish we had a cut to Meredith being like,

47:49Ben Mandelker: Yeah, Whitney really trying to launch her separation storyline that's just not catching on already. It's the first episode, first scene of it. I still can tell you, it's not going to catch on. Yeah, it's not working. Speaking of things not catching on, we are now going to go to Heather's house to learn about her love life that has suddenly arrived out of nowhere. So, Georgia is there. She's in from school. And Heather's making brownies. and she's like, do you even know how to make brownies in this sisterhood? Not the kind of brownies you're used to eating. These are just normal brownies. Aren't I a cool mom?

48:24Ben Mandelker: Referencing the fact that you might be eating marijuana brownies. What, am I even allowed to say that? Of course I can, because I'm a bad Mormon on bookshelves now. In Mormonism, you're not allowed to have marijuana. But I've escaped and some of my children, and now they could possibly be having marijuana brownies at college. Suck it, Joseph Smith. When you come home from college, George, it's time for me to assess what life skills I've blessed you with because if you can't make brownies, how are you going to be able to keep a man? Ha ha ha. But seriously, do you know how to pick out a bolero jacket?

48:59Ben Mandelker: It's very important for weddings. But seriously, I am making these brownies for my man who's coming over in about 10 minutes. Okay, scram. Am I right? This is my first time living without children, and I love it. It's amazing. It's important that they live independently and that they've got it all on them. You know, they can do it. They need to learn that they can do it, too. But they don't feel it unless you push them out of the nest and then deadbolt and chain it and move away. so then they decide to facetime annabelle one of the daughters one of heather's other daughters and annabelle's like you guys are so beautiful did you lose your voice from kissing lots of people you're a bad mormon too available on shelves not my daughter of course but she'll have the book soon enough what do you have planned tonight georgia sex just kidding i never would have been able to say that a few years ago and then heather's uh saying she's going out of mormonism and also because she would have been really underage.

50:02I guess that was an inappropriate thing to say, but I don't even care anymore because I'm not Mormon.

50:07Ben Mandelker: Guess what, guys? Everyone in the audience last year said, Heather never shares anything. When was the last time we even saw her go on a date with someone? Well, guess what? I'm going on a date tonight. And then it cuts to a guy on a motorcycle driving through the tough streets of a suburban enclave. And it's like, I was like, please just tell me this is a burrito arriving from Chipotle. Just Postmates Postmates People think it's crazy That I suddenly have a boyfriend But let me tell you, there's nothing fishy about it I met him when I hired him off Angie To fix things around my office Merica It's surreal to say it out loud But I'm officially Off the market I mean, I never was really on I tried to be on, they wouldn't let me I was just at the gates I was like, I'm open for business But then I met Tripapa.

51:02Ben Mandelker: And when we first opened Beauty Lab and we needed someone to help us with how to open a faucet or turn on lights, here he came. He was a man, and he fixed things the way men do. Trip is a very bad Mormon. And when he left, he was 17. So we're horrible Mormons together. It's so hot. He takes care of me. He takes out the garbages. I don't know if you've ever heard it said that way, but that's how he does it. All of them. He fixes everything around the house. He doesn't sleep over. We just hang and bang. But when he's at the house, he's quite useful, especially on big garbages day. Can you believe it?

51:46Ben Mandelker: Okay, girls, girls, let's do the math. December, January, February, March. Okay, is everyone still doing the math? Yes, Mom, you've counted four months. Oh, good. I was getting scary. I thought I might have to ask Tripp to come in and help me because he's a man. Well, so I met Tripp in 2016, and you're worth the wait, that's for sure. He's like, yeah. When I first met Tripp, he only had one P in his name. Then we started dating. It was just so fast and tumultuous, and I caught him texting other girls. He was saying, sure, be there in about 10 minutes. Do you have a ladder? Should I bring the one in for my trunk?

52:30And I felt so disrespected. But then, you know, the show was coming back and I needed some stuff fixed and also a date on this show finally. So I said, are you up for it, Tripp?

52:44Ben Mandelker: It's a foundation that we're building Quite literally, you're doing it Oh, sorry, Tripp, that was you who said that Tripp, why don't you say it? It's a foundation that we're building Oh, God, rebuilding We burn it to the ground and we rebuild it right back up Just like that Ellie Goulding song Burn, burn, burn Well, I think this situation was really worth the wait, don't you? Oh, are we calling this a situation now? When are we married? Yeah, you're my situation. And then Georgia comes in and she's like, hey, you guys, Georgia, do you have a notebook that I told you to bring into the room? Oh, that's crazy.

53:22Ben Mandelker: She's like, yeah, because you can't enter the gay family unscathed. What are we back at drag brunch? Mother. So Georgia is like To describe my mom's dating history Before Trippaba It would be dry as the Utah desert I think that's a good metaphor

53:42You're doing great What kind of questions Are you going to ask Tripp? And she's like Well, you have a bad boy energy I saw your motorcycle through the window I need to make sure You're actually the guy for my mom Okay

53:58Ben Mandelker: Please, we call it a hog He's got a big hog, Georgia Well, Georgia met him in December Because we were all together, all the girls We were staring at a light switch Thinking, how do we do this thing? Then he walked in, he put his finger under it And flicked it up, and I thought, wow He fixed it Then, he took out the garbages

54:22I was asking him how to fix the light bulbs as is And he was great at it So, George is like, here's my question. Okay, I wrote this down in my notebook. You're a Swifty, right? He's like, uh, Swifty means Taylor Swift. He's like, yeah, I know. Listen, it's gay enough being on the Housewives. I don't really know if I'm ready to go that far yet. You better come in or I'm breaking up with you again, Trip.

54:48Ben Mandelker: Okay, well, so the Swifty thing wasn't true. Okay, number two, have you passed the gray cat test? and Trippipa is like, I don't know if he loves me that much. And they have a little cat named Gray. And I don't know if that's like a Taylor Swift reference because Taylor Swift had a cat on the Emmys last night and it was a whole thing. So Georgia is like, okay, number three, you guys met in 2016, did you not? And he's like, we dated briefly and it didn't work out because the open road was calling me and I've just been traveling around like that old show Renegade on this hog, solving crimes and beating people up.

55:27Ben Mandelker: But now I'm back, ready to settle down, turn on light switches and take out garbages. Well, what's going to be this different? What's going to be different this time if it didn't work out the first time? It's like, alright, you know what, Georgia? Let me explain a little something to you. It's called time. You know when lunchtime comes around? You're like, I don't need to eat lunch today. And you don't eat anything. Then dinner comes around, you're like, I don't need to eat dinner. You wake up in the middle of the night and you're starving. You'll eat anything. shit eating a lunch. Know what I mean?

55:57Ben Mandelker: So, but I don't understand. It's time. But if I say what's different this time and you just respond time, that's not fair because you're just saying the last word of my sentence. Time. Well, that against me. That was literally two minutes of time ago. It was bad timing. So, from the author who brought you Bad Mormon comes her new book, Bad Timing. so trip up as like well the one constant has been how much i love and respect your mom and the friendship we've had forever i've i'm very happy and i love her very much ever since i first met her and uh now in retrospect we had a torrid love affair uh we are the love has been just love.

56:49Ben Mandelker: We're just so much love. But we've basically been together 10 years. You get that, audience? Okay. All right. Listen, we're very close. She doesn't even have to contract me on the app anymore. Okay? Doesn't have to go to Angie.com. She has my email address. So, it's huge. Listen, here's all I want, America. I just want a best friend who I think is hot. And I wanted a wild boy who would bring me wild joy. I wanted a man that could be completely in charge, but absolutely let me lead. If I planned it out, I couldn't construct a Tinder profile that would be as perfect a picture as he is for me. He's like my dream man, the sort of dream man that comes into your life, who then you don't see for 10 years, and then you realize people want to see you dating someone.

57:37Ben Mandelker: You're like, do I even talk to any men? And then I remember there was that one guy who came to fix the pipes back in 2016. That's who he is. Here's what I want. I want a man. A man to hold my hand. And I found a handyman. So, we're going with it, America. So, okay, just to keep score, this is two relationships in a row that everyone is already speculating are fake. Because Bronwyn's is like her, you know, young, hot model boyfriend from New York that everyone's like, okay. Most likely fake. And then this Heather one. So, this is shaping up to be a good Housewives season, I think. Yeah, but I think that the Bronwyn relationship, it's not so much that we think it's fake, we just know it's a dead-end relationship.

58:22And I think that she doesn't, I mean, it's clearly a rebound.

58:26Ben Mandelker: Everyone knows. I think she knows. She's just like, I have been in Todd hell for the past 10 years, I'm going to get some hot young ass. and like whether whether it has legs whether he's gay or straight whether he's using or not using i think she's getting from it from this model exactly what she wants which is some dick which is some penis um yeah i don't know i don't really know what i think of it yet because i haven't seen much of it on tv but that's you know that's the speculation on the internet so uh i just think it's funny playing out especially this one oh my god i'm just we've basically been together 10 years you want to take me on your hog i know like and they have zero chemistry on on screen which is what's so hilarious to me so then um and then she's like then they do get on this motorcycle and then they just ride off and i'm just like Oh, God, we're going to have a whole season of this.

59:25This, like, off-brand Jared Osmond, which is already an off-brand Osmond. Kind of a David Bedore-looking Jared Osmond.

59:37Ben Mandelker: Yeah, David Bedore, like, I don't know, meets, like, Chris Noth. I don't know. It's just all wrong. All right, let's go to Bronwyn's house. So, Bronwyn's with Muzzy. who has also learned from being on TV and is now all smiles at all times, even though you see the judgment coming from behind her eyes. She's like, hello, it's all right. Muzzy. Oh, well, I'm glad you can use me as a shooting partner, even though you've tried to ruin my life multiple times on television. She's like, don't worry, Branwen. I'll let my Bob do the frowning. It is in that shape. So, um, there, Bronwyn's like, hey, Muzzy, where, where do we get these scissors?

1:00:22Ben Mandelker: you can take them apart and she's like well that's so you can put them in the dishwasher and i stab you with a half of them can i tell you something i always wondered why kitchen shears did that i was like why do kitchen shears come apart that's so annoying i never realized it was that way you could wash them better i didn't either i just thought it was to annoy me yeah i was like why don't i am the person to lose half the scissor well yeah but i also it's like i'm also the person where they come apart while I'm cutting. And I'm like, I just never understood why kitchen shears had that design.

1:00:53Ben Mandelker: And now I'm like, this makes so much more sense. Although my kitchen shears, I got a pair of kitchen shears called the Joyce Chens. And they do not come apart. And they're also the most powerful kitchen shears in the entire world. You can cut through metal with them. They're amazing. Joyce Chen. You put them in the dishwasher? I usually just hand wash them. But what I do is, when I wash them, it's always weird. What I do is I sort of like chop at the stream of water. I cut the water so that way it gets in between it. I hit with soap and then I go... Because I'm hoping that I drive the water in between.

1:01:33The strongest scissors in the world they can cut through water.

1:01:40Ben Mandelker: They can go in the dishwasher, but usually I need them so frequently I can't just put them in there and wait wait for the dishwasher to start the cycle. Yeah. So Bronwyn is talking about this guy, Brandon. She's like, oh my god, I met him. I liked him. I just liked him. And so I said, you're great. Do you want to go here? Do you want to go there? And then we just started traveling. We went everywhere. We went to Montana. We went to New York Fashion Week. We were on the McDonald's playground together. That felt a little weird after a while, but it was a location. soon um we went to sundowns i mean that's close that's closer than the other ones i don't know should i have started with new york fashion week it's been very glamorous and then brawin says that basically um they're selling this house because a realtor a realtor called up and said hey are you are you really getting divorced because if you are do you want to sell that house because we can sell that house you want to sell the house i want to sell the house with the dog poop in it?

1:02:44The only thing I ask is that we stage this with a little bit fewer piles of dog poop that are dried for months at a time. Does that work?

1:02:55Ben Mandelker: And so, Bronwyn's like, this is my dark sense of humor, Mother. Last year, you lost a husband and sold a house, and then this year, I lost a husband and sold a house. She's like, hmm, monkey see monkey do. Everything's gonna be okay. Everything's gonna be okay! I don't even know what I want, Mizzie. Okay, I mean, I have you. Lucky me. Right, audience? Oh, and I have Gwenny, and I have Logan. By the way, Gwenny probably hates me now, because I'm calling her Gwenny. And I'm showing a picture of her, no longer with a bob, and her hair is blonde. So it's almost like she's doing her best to not be me.

1:03:36Fucking Gwenny. Well, that's great, but I told Gwenny I'd buy her a house, and so she's being nice to me now, Mom. She's getting a house.

1:03:43Ben Mandelker: out yeah so um uh bronwyn's saying that they haven't even filed for divorce yet and um there's you know there's absolutely been a handful of times i should have said you know this is the end but for me the final straw was i was gonna have a big 40th birthday and i thought he'd remember but nope nope he uh he just was on his sofa on his ipad at fart.com and i just was really upset. On the other hand, he really doesn't remember to put the toilet seat up when he pees. And I don't mean just the one with the hole in it. I mean the entire lid. He's kept closed before. But, you know, it still hurt my feelings.

1:04:29Ben Mandelker: So then Brahman's like, I don't think anyone understands that there was a period of time where I was really in love with Todd. And I think that period is done. And Buzzy is like, so you're done done oh well you do what you need to do Bronwyn hold on one second let me just sit over on your sofa now and I'm not gonna hug you but I'll just sit close to your sluttiness and that will feel like intimacy closer to you since I can't be judgmental with my words I'm gonna do it with my energy and hopefully you can feel that I'm not excited that my daughter who's already disappointed me in so many ways is not getting divorced and also doesn't know how to use kitchen scissors.

1:05:14Ben Mandelker: I'm just going to sit very close to you, very close to you, but please know I will not be touching you. I will be sitting with this nice piece of plastic off the back of the couch, though, which is ironically something I could suffocate you with. Isn't that crazy? Well, you're being so nice to me, and I don't know what to do with that. I don't think you've ever actually sat this close to me before. I think it's all our hugs in the past have been you just attaching gloves to yardsticks and having them touch my shoulders. So this is sort of strange. Yeah, I remember telling you the story of when you were born.

1:05:49You came out of me, and I literally moved to another couch. But, you know, things change, and I'm the new Muzzy.

1:05:57Ben Mandelker: Muzzy goes, actually, I just came over here to sit by this nice piece of plastic, and Brahman laughs. And you know, Muzzy was like, it wasn't a joke. I think it's a lovely, it's a darling piece of plastic. It's the most tasteful thing in this house. So Bronwyn's like, you know, I mean, my mother is very Mormon, and she shifts to her I should be married in a temple. But way down on the list is me being married not to somebody in the temple and also having sex with another man. So, you know, this is absolutely not what I'm supposed to be doing, and it is thrilling me to do this on camera with her right now.

1:06:30Ben Mandelker: Love this. So Muzzy's like, well, you know, I'm very old-fashioned, so I don't want you to skank it up in public with this model, is what I'm trying to say. It just, you know, it became public before Gwen knew anything about this person, and that's a concern from her. Because, you know, here you're setting an example that in life you want to marry an older, homely guy who keeps Werther's originals in his pocket, and then all of a sudden you're dating a model. I mean, what's Gwenny supposed to think? No wonder why she grew out of her generational bob. Oh, Bronwyn, I just want you to remember that your relationship may be public now, but so are stonings.

1:07:11So just keep that in mind. Mother, actually, that hasn't been legal for a long time. Oh, well, like I said, I'm very old-fashioned. God, whatever happened to the good old days?

1:07:21Ben Mandelker: Well, it doesn't even really matter because I'm buying Gwenny a house, so she can't say shit about who I'm sleeping with. Okay. Well, I understand where she's coming from. That's for sure. Okay, I'll go back to my guest bedroom, the house you're paying for. Okay, good talking to you, Bronwyn. So now we go over to a restaurant, and Meredith is walking very slowly over. Slow walking to a restaurant is so good. It is my first scene. I want everybody to relish in my new updated face and my old yet dependable recipe for bean salad. New face, homies. So, at least it's like, oh my god. Twitch, one eye closing.

1:08:13Is this animatronic? I know.

1:08:18Ben Mandelker: Hi, Mer. Hey, don't get up. How are you? Oh my god. How was that like? She's like, oh, it was so quick. It was so much fun. You know, GLAAD Awards. Brooksie was nominated, the first ever toddler to be nominated for a GLAAD Award. He didn't win the Southern Hospitality. People won that. Those adorable kids on a much smaller, less significant show than anything that Brooks has been on. I'm not going to tell that to GLAAD. That's for them to figure out. But someday he won't be a toddler anymore. and then they're going to regret not giving the toddler their warrant. So that's fine. Oh, my God, the Southern Hospitality people, they're like kids.

1:08:58Yeah, well, I'm calling kids, too, but I think I look as young as they do.

1:09:05Ben Mandelker: Listen, you look very, very young. And so the producer's like, tell us what you did to your face. Well, I got a facelift, facial rejuvenation. I then put my face in a glass pie pan, and I just stuck it in there for about five hours until it sort of all flattened out, became nice and round and smooth. And now here I am. I look basically like a teapot, but the nice kind, a porcelain kind. If you put an adorable face on a teapot, here I am. Here's my handle, here's my spout. That said, she does look stunning. Meredith has some of the best surgery on any of these shows. She's always looked amazing.

1:09:49And I think the biggest change is her sitting here talking about having surgery. She hasn't done that before, has she? No. Has it usually been like, well, I just have been praying and moisturizing and putting on literal diamonds onto my face as a mask form. And I have just stayed looking like this forever.

1:10:10Ben Mandelker: Yeah, she looks like she's 37. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. So Lisa is like, wow. Meredith's like, wow. I mean, I got carded when I went to Lisa's lounge. I guess that's a good sign. She's like, well, we card everyone who goes into our lounge. Even me. But you look great. We have so much to catch up on. Like, what's going on? You know, I told you about my hurt feelings with John. And he said, like, I hurt you because I was miserable inside. And I'm sorry. And you're right about everything. I mean, it's like really all I needed to hear on camera. You know, so it's great. We're great now. Do you know how amazing that was that he was able to get emotional?

1:10:54Ben Mandelker: I mean, my tear ducts have been long frozen. So if I can only dream of what it was like to be able to get my lips to quiver again. Well, he's only cried like one time when like the other non-Henry left home. And it was like so sad. But then there was like one other time. I don't really remember. But, you know, the point is that I'm really emotionally here for John, and it's great that he's here for me, too. I just forgot his traumas. I mean, who cares, really? But you know what? I met him 25 years ago, and I knew when I met him, like, I'm going to spend the rest of my life with that man. You know?

1:11:28And I was hurt. I was hurt. Because, like, I didn't really know that things were so bad at lunch, and I didn't really understand how bad they were even at lunch until I watched it on TV.

1:11:38Ben Mandelker: yeah i cried because my feelings always mattered and they didn't matter to him so i called john up and i said i think we're done and he said he can't live without me and i said no i said i think we're done with french fries we have to go get some more at wendy's can we go he said oh my god i love you and like i don't think you get it but like the other night i was like you do get it you do get it you do get it john like you do get the fries you go i'll be here bring them back you know what I was like you love me and he said yeah I said what else do you love and he couldn't think of that and so I almost kicked him out until he said I love grilled cheese and I was like that's right that's right you do and what type of cheese do you like at first he said sheep and I was like close try again he said goat and I said you do get it you do get it we're gonna be together forever oh my god how do you feel about going to MJ's What do you feel about, well, you know, I didn't feel anything except that we were there for Mary.

1:12:35I will keep all of my other comments to myself until I have a very special brunch to talk about how disappointed I am. And Whitney's.

1:12:46Ben Mandelker: Yeah, Whitney did make eye contact, and I think she felt embarrassed about going on stage. Yeah, well, I think it just sad. It's sad for her. Yeah, it's actually funny at this point. Like, ha ha ha, it's funny. Yeah, I mean, she's done it again and again. And you know what? You know what? Winnie told her truth. She doesn't like me. No, she actually hates me, let's be clear. And she hates Lisa slightly less than me. So I hate Lisa. Yeah, but you know what? No one takes her seriously. It's like clown behavior. It's ridiculous. Like, who even pays attention to clowns? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't tell Danny Bucco that.

1:13:28Ben Mandelker: he does not like being called a clown. And don't call Shy. Don't call Shy that. Don't call her a clown or a jester. Yeah, or jesters. Clowns are ridiculous. So, you know what? If I weren't trying to keep the peace, I would, like, fight at the service, but I'm not going to do with that. Like, I wouldn't even be in the same room as her if it weren't for the service. But you know what? She's just a dean bat. Like, she lost all her credibility. There's no credibility with Whitney, Clown Whitney. Well, didn't she ever have credibility? Well, I don't know. She was able to buy a house somehow. No, credibility.

1:14:04Ben Mandelker: You know, for seven years... Like her FIDO score was so bad. Like she couldn't even get a house. I don't even know how she did that. For seven years, she's been gaslighting and pretending to be my friend and doing things because she cares about me and then she finally admitted she hates me. So thank you. at least i know where we stand so mary um now we see that after three weeks mary returned to filming and she is calling the cat um it's not named gray it's clay no the dog the dog is cray sorry that's what i meant but i was trying to think gray so i said cat instead of oh geez we've got gray the cat and pray the dog cray she's like cray cray cray cray by the way so the dog at a cast who keeps passing my glass booth and i'm like every time he passes i'm like i love you you like dogs would you name your dog cray you're so cute this is a really heart-wrenching scene because basically mary says that like after robert passed the dog essentially went into the room and smelled the room and knew that Robert was gone, and now the dog goes in the room.

1:15:24Ben Mandelker: And then she says that basically Robert loved this dog, and this is what she has left of Robert. This represents Robert now. And so I was like, oh, God, this is absolutely gut-wrenching. Yeah, this whole scene was really rough. She tells she tells us that so many people have been reaching out and sending her so many messages and um she just wants everyone to know you know she thanks them and meredith comes over all the ladies start coming over and talking about how you know they want to be supportive and not be volatile right now and just try to support her any way they can and so mary is saying you know i love meredith and we bonded from the beginning and maybe we've drifted a little but i'd really love her.

1:16:15She's talking about Robert and how hard it's been, but she's trying to stay positive.

1:16:20Ben Mandelker: She also is like, I'm not going to just stop my life. She's like, I can't wobble. I can't stop my life and wobble. She's like, he's going to live within me. You can't wobble in life. That's what I'm always saying. Oh, okay. A life worth wobbling through. Am I right? so the everyone gathers and mary is saying you know she she thinks that they did the right thing and everyone's like you know you did everything you did everything right there's nothing you could have nothing you could have done differently and then they're reflecting more about like losing a child and how like you know how tough it is and how this is going to like the bond that they have transcends any sort of petty differences they all have amongst each other yeah but when heather says that she's like wow you know i've never known how to talk through this with her but you know now we're with this group sing salt lake city keeps putting in the sound effects no matter what um so uh everybody is kind of gathering together and talking and mary thanks them all for showing up for her and being there for her and lisa's like oh my god your service was magical it was amazing and uh basically they describe it as this big beautiful service that was filled with a lot of joy and appreciation of the person instead of a lot of you know sadness and it's so sad like it is sad they were they referred to it as for me to live through it let's just fast forward yeah i mean basically the the way the the show ends is that mary reflects and they talk about robert's but they say the home going and um and mary says like term i've never heard that term before same it was very nice and she's mary saying that like lisa sends her packages and sends her groceries and like she's saying that like her sister never didn't reach out like none of her family reached out and that basically these women are her family like this is the family that she like that she now has they're the ones that are checking in on her and making sure she's okay and she's like yeah you're my family even though i didn't ask for you and then mary's like this is like yeah you can't give us back and so then they all um they laugh And it basically ends on a note of like, we are a family, and we've got you, Mary.

1:18:57Ben Mandelker: And then there's like beautiful little clips of Robert at the very end. So it was like, you know, I'm sure a lot of people, like I was definitely getting emotional watching it, and I'm sure lots of people were. It was very sad. I wasn't okay for this episode. So, you know, RIP Robert Jr. RIP. RIP. really a sad sad sad thing but now the show will move forward and i'm sure we will get back to the the petty insufferable squabbles that we know from this cast and we'll meet the new girl kwai so um until then thanks everyone for being here and for listening and we'll catch you on the next episode of real housewives or of let's say real house with salt lake city but also watch what crappins.

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