#3547 Crappy Hour 9/21/26: Kempire and Crappens

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1:55Ronnie Karam: hello welcome to crappy hour and campfire hour welcome to the show campfire hi how you doing hey long time don't see i know thank god for the internet because this is like the only time i see people i know same because i don't go on ben leaves town you don't go outside i don't have to look at your view campfire just moved check out that apartment

2:26i'm trying i literally just moved not too long ago but i'm getting it together i'll be in my studio and then you guys will be all in my business

2:36Ronnie Karam: everybody everyone's still going to be in your business yeah everyone's still gonna be now especially in your business because we see that view hell yeah um okay uh everybody uh i'm sure you already know campire but if you don't follow him on youtube follow his podcast and check him out live in new york city at the green room 42 friday september 5th 25th um 25th did i say 5th i'm literally reading it what's wrong with me it's how i walk around uh there's also a meet and greet and live stream tickets you can get them at kempireafterdarklive.com slash nyc that's kempireafterdarklive.com slash nyc september you just always introduce me and everything and just record that really i just got the date wrong and i was reading it off of the thing we'll fix it with ai oh shit i need just a regular eye uh so let me see here i just saw a comment in here hi everybody we're reading your comments on youtube live where is this it said something like campire i know you're not recapping real housewives of orange county but where is it god there's a lot of comments in here stuff right okay campire is not recapping oc so curious to have his thoughts of the season if you're even watching and also thoughts on katie janela's new podcast and all the accusations she's making that's from omg steph oh hey omg steph which is funny because i knew i was going to be here i have been watching oc just that was my homework torturing myself watching it oh god it wasn't that bad though i have to say watching it wasn't that bad but it also wasn't that great either yeah that's kind of what i believe oc represents like good old ashen american mediocrity like you just don't expect much it's it's oc you just kind of come and just let it just let it go it's like how are you i just watch oc and i just kind of go through go through vicky makes me crazy um i'm not psyched that she's back but as the season goes on i'm really enjoying watching her kind of break down and people not take her bullshit that's nice to see finally the new girl looks like she's gonna let her have it i was just watching her relationship with that guy her new guy michael is his name i think yeah i'm like wow i hope when i'm her age that i am not in a relationship where i have to sort of tap dance for for my partner that's crazy Oh, yeah.

5:16How did she end up in another relationship like this?

5:19Ronnie Karam: She's always in a terrible relationship. And it's kind of, I always say, you know, Vicky dates a lot of bad men, but the men also date a lot of bad Vickys. You know, it's not like Vicky's great. That's true. I don't know. So what you're saying, she gets what she deserves. Well, I don't want to say that because, I don't know, what if he turns out to be abusive or something? I don't mean it like that. I know, but it can't get dark on these shows. So I have to be careful. I don't mean that. I just mean you get the kind of fish that, I don't know, is bait relative to the kind of fish that you catch?

5:59Ronnie Karam: Like if you put a nasty worm in there, are you going to get a good fish? I guess you will. Maybe that's a bad way to put it. No, I get what you're saying because I've said that about something. You don't catch puppies with honey. You catch bees. Yeah. I feel like with some of these other housewives, Ashley Darby is a perfect example of this because for so long, we were like oh poor Ashley she was with Michael Darby's cheating on her and now that we fast forward to now in 2026 and we see how Ashley navigates this group and she's kind of creepy as well I'm like oh so that's why it works between her and Michael Darby yeah and she had kind of a creep shield before because he was taking all the creep heat but yeah she can be a creep as well I I don't think anyone's as creepy as Michael, though.

6:41Ronnie Karam: Darby. I think Ashley might take the cake. Really? Yes. I never saw it before until recently. I'm like, oh, that's why it worked. Or worked. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, they prowled together. Weird.

7:02Ronnie Karam: All right. So what else is going on here? Let me read some of these. Foxy the Swede says, I think she has low self-esteem when it comes to men and being around the other housewives. I think so, too. And, you know, sometimes people, and this is Vicky we're talking about still. I think so, too. I mean, I get that, like having low self-esteem and stuff like that. I just keep myself cordoned off for the most part. I think that that's our responsibility. I have a podcast where I get all my negativity out. I don't need to take it out on, you know, a man. I guess. Yeah. Well, that's good. That's very mature of you.

7:42Ronnie Karam: It's just exhaustion, honestly, at this point. You're too tired to do it. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so what are your thoughts on the state of Bravo in general right now? What are your favorite shows that are airing to least? I was about to say The Traitors, but then I was like, wait, that doesn't air on Bravo. Close enough. Close enough. the traders new blood i'm loving that we're getting back to just regular degular people i mean i love the the celebrity version but i really love season one where it's a mix of both because i feel like yeah reality stars know how to counteract with other reality stars but they don't know how to to interact with regular people and i know they're regular yes you get what i'm saying yeah and the celebrities kiss each other's ass a lot more it's really hard to get people accusing each other of stuff.

8:37Ronnie Karam: I mean, this one, the very first one, and of course, it's the one who's like, I'm a Southern mom. I love my sons. Hashtag boy mom. I'm just sweet as pie. And you know what? One thing I'm afraid of on this show is that it's going to be a witch hunt and that someone's going to just come after somebody for no reason. And then by the end of the episode, she's like, it's her. She's the witch. Or it's him. They're the witch. Get them. And immediately turned and got a really evil face on her. I was like, of course. Of course. I loved every second of it. Because this is like a new reality star to us. Like, this is a completely different person that we never met before, and now we're being introduced to the crazy that really exists in the world.

9:21Ronnie Karam: Yes. Because I could imagine her kind of on a TikTok being like, do you belong in this neighborhood? Sorry. Is her name Karen? What is her name? she did give me like tiktok karen vibes i mean did you see that hair yeah and i was thinking because i did think it right when i saw her and i thought you know don't stereotype that that's just as bad as what you're accusing her of doing in your mind and by the end of the second episode i was like called it called it so who do you think is going to be in the top three of this new traders guest oh it's too soon it's too soon for some reason i always kind of root for the traders and i don't know why but i always got a root for the traders so i'm right now i'm rooting for the traders because the faithfuls usually are are pretty dumb and we say dumb lovingly because god forbid we were in their place we probably would also be very dumb too you know yeah well it's one of those where we feel smart because we know we know who the killer is i mean they tell us if we had to guess i don't think we'd feel very smart i don't think you know what i love about i love about this new season though the whole accomplice idea where they they have to choose between these two faithfuls on whether or not they're going to become traitors and they also are implicated in regard in regards to knowing who who was murdered i'm like i like this little change of events okay so they have to choose so they there's two people that alan just tells them these two people could be a traitor but first they have to find a card in a book after who and you have to so there's all these hijinks that they have to do to become the traitor isn't that what determines determines who's going to be traitor and then yeah right right now but that's a new thing they've never done that before yeah i wish i like to bring those football players mom back i really liked her she was like the worst traitor of all time and she was gone very quickly.

11:25Travis Kelsey's mom. I was just, I rewatched that season as well before this new season of, of, of traitors. And I was glad when she, when she, she got murdered. Um, well not murdered, revealed. Um, damn, I'm like Porsche from that season. I'm just, I would have, I would have told on myself, my God. Well,

11:44Ronnie Karam: that's what happened on this traitors. It was another Porsche where someone said, I'd have killed or I'd have felt bad killing so-and-so. And she's like, oh, I heard you say I felt bad killing so-and-so. I swear I heard it. I heard it, Burner. See, that's what would make me so nervous playing the game, speaking out of turn. Yeah. Not meaning it. Would you want to be a traitor or a faithful? I would want to be a traitor. And I think Candace said it the best. I said, why would you want to be a traitor? And she's like, it's the title of the show. Like, duh. you want to be the star of the show so i wouldn't want to be a traitor on the traitors but i would be horrible at it but i think i would be also terrible at being a faithful i think i would be bad at both but my but i think our commentary sorry about that i thought i turned my notifications off i'm more professional than this please hold sorry we're not those things i could that could have been mine i'm no no it was and i meant to turn it off but anyway i would i think both of us if we either even if we were a traitor or faithful our commentary in the confessionals would be lit yes i think i would excel at that because it's just being you know shitty behind people's back and stuff but i think i would be voted off really quickly you think i just yeah i think whether or not i was telling the truth people would be like he's he's a fucking liar get rid of him you know what i don't think so you don't think no i don't think you you would be i I probably would be, and I would probably say this in my confessional, and I'd probably say this to Alan Cummings as well.

13:23Very much like in the horror movies, on Traitors, the black person always dies first. Just saying. It seems to be the Traitor.

13:35Ronnie Karam: That happened a lot with the drag queens that they would have on the show. They would get off really, really quickly. And I feel like it happens with the gays, but I feel like this time they really stacked the gays. There's a lot of gays on there, right? There are. They were eating me up in the comments, Ronnie, when I did not mention Bianca Del Rio. And I said, guys, I know who she is, but I'm not a Drag Race fan. I don't watch Drag Race. I know a lot of the stars. I mean, I know Bob's Drag Queen. I know Monique Exchange. I know Bianca Del Rio. However, I didn't recognize Bianca outside the drag.

14:11And the people that follow me and watch me watch me for Housewives. So I talked about the Housewives mostly. yeah those are dueling fandoms i find apparently rare yeah there's like a there's bravo queens

14:25Ronnie Karam: and then there's drag race queens and very rarely do they meet in the middle but they were educating me in the comments about about bianca and i'm kind of excited to see her play this game they're always good their drag queens have all been good on this show they've all been really really funny i mean bob the drag queen i didn't know who that was and huge fan now yeah so funny so good who else is on this uh new traders i brought it up let me look here and this isn't the one that's on now this cynthia bailey the peach life is she gonna sing for us oh cynthia cynthia uh who so bianca del rio bowman martinez reed who's from tiktok he's really funny on tiktok Why is that guy so hot?

15:10Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I looked him up. He was for Bowman. Did I say Bozeman? No, no, you said Bowman. Okay, Bronwyn. Oh, yeah. Bromba Newport. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Now, I think Bronwyn would always look like she's lying. Because she does the head bob. Also, she lies a lot. But she's always like it. Yeah, she does. Casey Wilson is going to be on there. I wasn't sure if that was Casey or not. Because I was like, that doesn't look like Casey. I'm oh I don't even here let me fast forward down to the pictures boom and no it is Casey though yeah that's Casey yeah um Chloe Kim Olympic snowboard Olympic snowboarder wait did I pass Giselle where's Giselle at Giselle's at the very top oh I'm sorry I'm looking at the I'm looking at the other one you're you're going in order I'm sorry keep going oh yeah I'm just scrolling through pictures yes yes uh okay Bianca Del Rio okay damn it you made me scroll oh Chloe Kim okay this is where i lose it with these sports people i don't understand who anybody is and they make people cry because they're like we did this for america how could you get rid of us we fought for america in the olympics oh my god okay i i will say i love seeing uh who was it uh i was about say tanya harding but it wasn't tanya yes that's who we need you need to start working in casting Tonya Harding and Nancy.

16:36Ronnie Karam: Throw Nancy Kerrigan in there too. Both of them there. Can you imagine? Yeah. Hilarious. That's when I pay attention to sports. When a girl gets her ex to come after another girl with a crowbar. Then I'll pay attention. That's a real drama. Yeah. Hell yeah. Okay. Cody Simpson singer. Who's that? American singer. I remember him. I don't... I couldn't tell you a song by him, but I just remember the name. he released albums including surfers paradise and he toured the globe and he also made his mark outside of music his screen credits include finding cody bucket and skinner's epic adventures cooler town and he had it coming okay craig conover y 'all know him craig i don't watch southern charm i know about his relationship with page but that's that's that's about it what do you how do you feel about about craig oh southern charm is just um horrible douchebags fighting with each other and treating their girlfriends like shit and craig is a compulsive liar yeah but he's a really charming really cute douchebag and one time he got in a fight with his girlfriend at the time because he was just staying home all day and he was pretending that he passed the bar exam, but he never did.

17:58Ronnie Karam: He was just telling people he did. And he, I think he was just sitting at home, like being a stoner, is what I think. But he started, he got a sewing machine and he started sewing squares, you know, like making little pillowcases. And she's like, all you do is sit around and sew all day. And he said, but what's the matter with my sewing? And then one of his friends, who's like a very successful businessman, was like, let's make you a pillow company. And so now he's like a male Martha Stewart wannabe kind of a guy. And he's still a compulsive liar and stuff, but he's really cute. Now he's rich.

18:33Ronnie Karam: You really ruined my image of this man. I knew nothing else besides his relationship with Paige. And I was like, oh, he's handsome. And then I was like, oh, so he's a loser. He's a liar and a loser. And a winner. He lied so much. He lied himself into becoming a winner. I still don't think the man can sew more than a square. But he's got like a huge, you know. Is it doing well? Homemaking company. Yeah, I think so. He's like on the cover of Home and Gardens magazine. And he's just smiling his charming smile. Or it'll be like the home show. Denver. Sold out. Craig Conover appeared. You see pretty privilege?

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19:18Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Wow. Sorry, Craig. I had to say it. Well, I mean, good for him. You said he was cute. He was cute. He won me over. I know, exactly. I own a pair of his sweatpants. My friend got them for me. He has sweatpants? Yeah, he has a store called Sewing Down South, and so they sell all sorts of merch in the store, and someone got me sweatpants. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial. fx's american horror story returns for an unrivaled 13th installment with the iconic horrors you'd love to fear and an all-star cast reprising fan favorite roles light your candles

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21:26Ronnie Karam: Oh, are they good? They're sewn very well. I will say. It's about the season. But yeah, anyway. yeah he's a uh compulsive liar so it'll be interesting to see he'll probably be like the tom sandoval of this show like just a big idiot accusing people oh well traders has been really good about introducing me to people that i really haven't been introduced to before from reality tv so that should be fun yeah it's made stars out of a lot of people yeah and it's really redeemed a lot of real housewives people who left their shows kind of not well received like candace i think had a big resurgence on this phaedra phaedra's the biggest one for sure yeah lisa rinna i mean it definitely did it definitely did i don't know why it did but it definitely did because when i because i just re-watched and i was like she really wasn't that great after rewatching like no I think it was because she's such a dodo you know and she's just so campy like she was on the soap operas back in the day like oh you think you're gonna get me I'll get you first and I think there was a lot more people to hate on that cast so she ended up looking like an angel yeah well an angel but I don't know that show's so camp I love it Cynthia Bailey as you mentioned Cynthia Bailey.

23:00Ronnie Karam: She could last a long time. On Big Brother. Did you watch her on Big Brother? She was on Big Brother? Celebrity Big Brother. Oh, yeah. I guess I did watch that. But it would be interesting to see if she can last on this game. Just sort of like playing under the radar. But she's very friendly and personable. So I can see her lasting a while. And if there's someone in the turret that likes her, they might keep her around longer. And she's good at not really making waves, you know, just kind of being likable. Yeah. She'll make waves if you're calling her boring. Like she'll come back for a season and be like, oh, really?

23:39Ronnie Karam: Really, Portia? Kind of kick Portia in the stomach or whatever that was. I love that season. Activated Cynthia. I kind of wanted to see Cynthia and Crystal on the same season and make one of them a traitor so that it could break up their friendship.

23:56Ronnie Karam: Very dark. it's actually lasted a long time i feel like for two housewives to partner up outside of the housewives world yeah i think because they really get each other you know sometimes it doesn't work chemistry doesn't necessarily work they have chemistry yeah and they both show up yeah all the time which is also i feel like rare for kind of a housewives like two reality stars in general although tamra and teddy have been also doing it for a long time they've been going strong what do i know uh dominic that's you just mentioned you just mentioned two other ones there's not that many yeah out of all of these years and all of these housewives 20 years okay uh dominic monaghan he's not looking like i think that he's supposed to look hold on let me see who he is who is he uh an actor film and television actor best known for playing mary in the original lord of the rings film oh he's charlie from lost that's how i know who he is oh yeah that is charlie from lost How the mighty have fallen.

24:54Ronnie Karam: You're on reality television. That is a big one to be on reality TV. Like a Lord of the Rings and Lost actor. He doesn't look like he's from Lord of the Rings.

25:09Ronnie Karam: Just saying. Give that ring back. Give that ring back.

25:17Ronnie Karam: um flash forward x-men origins wolverine pet and long shadow okay so it's not that far of a fall okay so amira from next gen yes do you watch next gen i watched season one season two i just never got into it but i've been hearing about what's been going on on on season two i don't know i I just feel like that's not my era. I don't know. I just can't get into their drama. And Brooks. I can't. And Brooks. Brooks. No, I can't. I can't do it. Every episode, they're like, Mel, see what's Brooks doing? I'm making sourdough. And then they just show him making sourdough. One time he made it in a turkey shape.

26:02Ronnie Karam: So ratings, chuggernaut. How are you feeling about Next Gen NYC? I like it because we cover it I don't know that I would watch it if we didn't cover it but I do watch it and I crack up they're just really dumb you know they're just young young in the city what's that river called which way is north and which way is south oh youth

26:32Ronnie Karam: that's the extent of it so Giselle Giselle. Giselle's going to be trouble on this show. But entertaining. At least this is a space. This is why I probably enjoyed Phaedra in this space. Because at least here, it's not involving anyone's personal story, their family. It's just her playing a game and she can just show up and be calculated and funny. I think I'm going to love her in this space, I hope. You know, Giselle's taken me years to finally just get used to Giselle and accept her for who she is. because I would get so upset with Giselle. She's always coming for people for no reason. She's always betraying everybody.

27:11Ronnie Karam: She doesn't really have a lot going on. But now I think it's really funny for some reason. Like I'm loving the, I'm loving her on Girls Trip, even though she's doing the same thing. Like you were late and that was going to be her thing forever. And now it's the, what is she upset about now? Oh, Luann. You know, I guess when you're on her side of whatever she's, whoever she's annoyed with, when you're on her side against whoever she's annoyed with, suddenly it's entertaining. You know? She has her moments. Yeah. I look forward to her entree. Karen eat her up. Yeah, me too. She's going to be accusing people.

27:49Ronnie Karam: That's Giselle. That's what Giselle does. And you, ma 'am, the way that you spoke the other day at breakfast. I see you. I wonder who's going to be a traitor. That's what I wonder. gosh i don't know there's so many people let's see i hope i kind of want because they went so housewives the last time i kind of want them to go the other direction because i want to see the gamers play the game because they're going to make it interesting for everyone watching yes i don't want the housewives to go early either but i i really would like to see the gamers play this game yeah the gamers do make it more interesting and i think the housewives would be more interesting if they weren't so paranoid about looking bad yeah on the show it's weird right because on housewives that's the whole point you know they get messy but on this show they're very careful about not getting too messy that's not why i'm watching this exactly oh this one's good Ian Sterling, the comedian from Love Island.

28:54Ronnie Karam: He does all the voiceovers on Love Island. Do you watch that? No. It's another show that just requires too much of my life to get into. And also, I just feel like I'm not an old man, but I sometimes feel like an old man watching certain shows. I'm like, I can't watch those. I've tried. I've watched Love Island. I get it. I can't. It's too much. Yeah, you know what? I am an old man and I am too old to be watching. I do feel I feel like a pervert watching Love Island. That's Ben. Ben loves Love Island. That's like his favorite show. A lot of people do. Yeah, a lot of that. That's like his thing.

29:30Ronnie Karam: So we watch I watch it kind of like to support my my husband, my work husband. Your work husband. I'm not very supportive, though, because I do bitch about it the whole time. But I feel like a pervert. I'm like they're 20. I am. I'm like over double some of their ages. And it just feels weird. It makes me wonder how Andy Cohen feels. He's hot. How does Andy Cohen host a show when he's like triple their age? Yeah. What did you feel when you made out with her? Do you think that was fair? And then they start crying and stuff. I just, I feel like, shut up. I want you to be old and on your second divorce.

30:09Oh.

30:11Ronnie Karam: Not your second. You got to get married first. yeah or the tail end of your marriage like you come on housewives to get rid of your husband you know like bronwyn with todd where she's like i'll just bring this man on and uh showcase what an asshole he is and then have the whole world on my side that's what i want in my reality people um she's very good at jag jag baines from amazing race i don't watch that one do you oh he was on big brother too he won both he is uh see that's a game i want to see play this game jag is really a good gamer. So that's someone I want to see. Look, outside of the Bravo world, I love myself some Big Brother.

30:51Ronnie Karam: Love it, love it, love it. Big Brother, I have a love-hate relationship with. Mostly love, but I've just watched so many seasons. And this season, I was like, no, I'm not doing it. And then I heard it's the best one that they've had in years. No, I wouldn't say that. That's a lie. It's good, though. Oh, really? It's not the best that they've had in years. Especially the last few years, they've had some good ones. No, no. Well, I do love watching Angela in an egg costume. That's the clip that Ben keeps sending me ever since. Angela having a nervous breakdown while dressed like an egg. She's insane.

31:25She had quite a few nervous breakdowns this season.

31:28Ronnie Karam: Oh, yeah, that's how she rolls. Yeah. Janae from Love Island. You don't watch that. I know the face. She was great on Love Island. Oh, she's stunning. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah. She's a stunner for sure. joey grizzieldy from the bachelor hmm cute season 20 of the bachelorette as runner up and then the star of the bachelor season 28 wow i really fell off on that show who the hell is this guy no i have no ideas who knows we may end up loving him by the end of the season yeah who knows johnny's still god there's a lot of people on this huh i'm talking about okay i'm gonna start going faster. John Sibilli, actor from Great Canyon.

32:12Ronnie Karam: Oh, Queer as Folk, Pose and Hacks. Even before that, he's a bit like a content creator. He used to create content on social media. He's been around a long time. He's funny. He's very funny. Oh, he's cute. He has a very serious headshot. His headshot's like, hello, I'm handsome. So that's good that he's funny. Yeah, but he's very quirky and funny. So that headshot really doesn't do him justice. Kristen Chenoweth. popular. I'm surprised she's going to be on here. I'm kind of feeling like, and this is coming from something that recaps and talks about reality television. I'm just sort of like, there's certain people.

32:48I just feel like you're doing reality television, a competition show. I mean, her Broadway show was canceled. So, okay, I get it. Nevermind.

32:57Ronnie Karam: Yeah. She had a, she had a canceling year because she was in that queen of Versailles Broadway show. And then she also got canceled herself during that. Yes. What was she? I think like sticking up for Charlie Kirk or something. Something like that. People are like, no, no, no, no, man. This is Broadway. Yeah. Now I get it why she's here. Yeah. So she's doing a little sweeping up, I think. Michelle Fitzgerald from Survivor and the Challenge. But you know, I have to say, the show turns me on to gamers that I've never met before. And I'm like, oh, I see why you're a legend. Oh, yeah. Did you watch The Lost Survivor?

33:37Ronnie Karam: No, I never watched Survivor ever. It's like the 50 ,000th anniversary or whatever. It was good. Q. I heard he's one to watch. He's good. Yeah, he's good. He'll be good on this show. Rachel Robinson from The Challenge. I don't watch that one. It's too much exercise on that show. Rashad Jennings, NFL star, again. Oh, he looks familiar. exercise he looks familiar though i don't know why he looks familiar

34:11Ronnie Karam: nfl taylor hale big brother oh wow love taylor's on here yeah i like taylor too i'm interested to see how she'll be on big brother i remember talking to her about doing uh doing the traders because i was like any other reality show you would you want to do and we talked about the traders oh i would love to see you play the traders game so i'm really excited to see her play this game i kind of see her as a trader yeah i want to see her as a trader too i think that would be good whitney levitt oh jesus christ isn't she's on everything when she's just on brogway isn't she tired she's on nine million things oh so that was the that was the last one whitney i'm excited wow that's gonna be a good one okay so i know you said it's too soon but just tell me who just make a fantasy final three for this Traders.

35:02Ronnie Karam: Not the celebrity one, but the one that's on right now. I'm going to say Bianca Del Rio. Just so I'm not canceled. Taylor Hale. And Cynthia Bailey. I won't get canceled. Taylor and Cynthia. Taylor Hale, Cynthia Bailey. Who do you think for the regular? Oh, for the regular? Well, I'll get a buzz. I'm writing them down. I love to do this and then flip through my notebook later. Okay. So Taylor Hale, Cynthia Bailey, and Bianca Del Rio. And it will be two traders. It will be Taylor Hale and it will be Bianca Del Rio as the traders. And Cynthia. I'm sorry, Cynthia. It was like, oh, my God, we made it to the end.

35:45We're both traders.

35:47Ronnie Karam: I'm sorry, Cynthia. We had a contract. Okay. Who do you pick for your regulars? Oh, my gosh. I don't remember their names. Okay, I'll say the evil southern lady. I'm rooting for the traitors. The one that I'm rooting for to get kicked off is the guy's like, Oh my God, this is crazy.

36:13The one reason that I want, spoiler alert for anyone watching, the one that I wanted to see more of was she's a lawyer, but she said that she was a basketball player and she was the first one murdered.

36:26Ronnie Karam: Oh, Kim. yes i i want to see i want to see more of her because i feel like she would have been good reality television i really feel like her commentary would be the dumbest lie i've ever heard first of all she's like well i'm a lawyer but i don't want people to know i'm a lawyer so i'm gonna get them to trust me by lying to them and telling them that i'm a basketball coach and got rid of and they got rid of her they were like who trusts a bachelor who trust who trusts a basketball coach in a three-piece suit and they got rid of her right away i told you but i already told you the black ones always die first on these games just proving my point that's true though that i was thinking that too i was like no don't go in that shed don't go in that shed like he's doing a horror movie um i don't yeah i don't i don't even remember anybody from the regular one right now i know i'm just gonna say i want you will get back together at the end of the season just to see how this game is going.

37:25Ronnie Karam: Yeah, we do. We are going to need to talk about that. Okay, what else is going on in this Bravo world here? Okay, so we talked about really nothing. I'm really bad at leading sometimes. I'm like, hey, let's just talk about traitors for nine hours. Okay, Girls Trip. What are your thoughts on Girls Trip? I enjoyed this week's episode. The Atlanta episodes I thought I was going to enjoy more. I love seeing Nene in the first, you know, her very, well, it was technically her second episode. I enjoyed seeing that and catching up with Nene. She didn't seem herself, though. And I get it. She's probably what's nervous coming back into this after seeing the network.

38:03I get it. So for me, that was a highlight. But being in Miami, you know, everyone keeps saying they want Miami to come back. And seeing Miami and seeing the episode of Miami, it just felt good. It felt fun. so I'm enjoying these middle episodes and towards the end now that they're in New York I always loved Real Housewives of New York as well but it's not an Ultimate Girls Trip that I would go back and rewatch and I just did a rewatch of Ultimate Girls Trip during the winter just because I wanted you know they're usually in the Caribbean somewhere yeah which one did you rewatch?

38:40Ronnie Karam: which one? all of them you watched all of them? yes it's not that many oh my gosh i think it feels like it's sometimes watching it maybe because it used to be supersized so they used to be like an hour and a half and it would just be like luann drunk at a pool fighting you know trying to find something to fight with her into about i always think they're funny i think that the this girl's trip is really proving that the most entertaining are the people who don't give a fuck what anybody thinks and are just themselves like even vicky is kind of somewhat entertaining because she's just so annoying and terrible you know be like nobody likes me she's just so gross um but it's somehow i guess because people are calling her out or like luann being such an arrogant narcissist lisa barlow being such an arrogant narcissist portia is one of the most entertaining i think and she's just she's just so light all the time she's just so like fun she makes everything so fun yeah sexy i don't know i'm loving this i'm loving this season i'm even enjoying kyle richards and i usually do not like her she's she's my least favorite of all of them kyle has been winning me over lately and i think it might have been seeing her get down at Bozema St.

40:01John's Ghanaian wedding. Just seeing her have some rhythm and twerking. I was like, I might be turning a corner with you, Kyle. Really? So she did well at that?

40:13Ronnie Karam: She did. I was like, whoa. She was getting down. I couldn't see past Dorit. That's all I can remember from the whole thing. And I watched a lot of clips, but the Dorit dancing in the street or all the, you know, People in the town are like surrounding them and supporting them. And just Dorit was so embarrassing that I think I blacked out. Not too blacked out. So I don't remember anything else. The only other thing I remember is the cake being lowered from the ceiling in the wedding. And it was like this humongous cake. And it's coming down. It's so glamorous. And then it just stops. And it's like.

40:52Ronnie Karam: And I was just so worried for the cake. And it drops. Well, here's the thing. I'm actually looking forward to Bozema's wedding. I'm not looking forward to Bozema's marriage. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like we all tried to tell her. We did. But it is what it is. She's going to give us a fun African wedding and I am here for the glitz and the glam. Yeah. It's going to be a few years of Keely just, I feel like, sitting at home living off of her. I don't like it. And everyone was asking me, who do you think paid for the wedding? I was like, why are you ask any stupid questions, people? Why are you asking me stupid questions?

41:31Stop asking me stupid questions. Who do you think? Clearly. Clearly we know who paid for that wedding, okay? Paid for everything.

41:42Ronnie Karam: Yeah, this is going to be... She's a former CMO, so she got some of that sponsored. Oh, yeah. Well, she's also really good at all of that. Oh, my gosh. She probably got most of that paid for, at least that cake. I'm sure she also got his hairline sponsored.

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44:38Ronnie Karam: Ben saw him in a grocery store and said he was really cute. He is very cute. I think he's a cute man. I don't think he's not cute. Look at Craig. Yeah, I don't think he's not cute. I just think, I just worry. You know, because when you really like somebody and they're dating a shithead and you're just like, please. You're trying to be supportive. Well, I mean, I'm a podcaster, so I wasn't trying to be supportive. I was like, fuck Keely, don't do it. I don't know. It's like Vanderpump Rules when they came out with that big billboard at the bar that said, Brittany, don't do it. And she started crying and she's like, whoa, they were saying Brittany, don't do it.

45:14Ronnie Karam: Listen, read the signs. Look, at this particular point, I think Bozema just wants what she wants. And there's nothing that anyone that could have done, you know, could have said or done to change her mind about it. And I'm OK with that. Girl, you like it. We get an African wedding next season. Well, yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's like an Indian wedding. The extravaganza of it all, I'm here for. Oh, my gosh. Like a nice 10-day Indian wedding. not 10 days watching yeah on i'm tapping out after day two family karma they're like oh yes a traditional bring back your wedding it's like seven days like it's a long time like they go family karma gave us in their season three two indian weddings yeah two we owe them so much that was a good one that was a good show i miss that show so uh still on beverly hills did you hear the latest Dorit stuff that PK is beating her in court.

46:17Ronnie Karam: Dorit, why aren't you getting a good lawyer, you dummy? That's another one that you've been rooting against that man. Are you surprised? I am a little surprised that someone didn't hook her up with a good lawyer. Sutton didn't hook her up in a way that she could at least fight PK. I mean, PK just bought the debt of their house and is going to be able to kick her ass out of there. And he created the debt of the house. He created it. Yeah, and now he's bamboozled the whole situation. I was like, damn, PK might be really, really freaking smart. And she's not. But people did try to help and warn Dorit, too, including Erica.

46:57They did try and warn her, and she just kind of ignored it. I think she thought she was better or she knew more. Well, no one wants to hear it when they're the ones being warned. The man allegedly staged a, whatchamacallit, a burglary, allegedly. Allegedly. Oh, yeah. Oh, gosh. Allegedly.

47:14Ronnie Karam: Well, Garcelle thanks you for the backup on that one. Everyone acted like, what? I can't believe you would say that. It's like the whole internet said it. You know what I mean? So the fact that he's been able to navigate his life like this, I don't know why she's surprised, because she probably knows PK better than any of us. But that move that he made this week in regards to buying the debt of the house, I was like, damn, I didn't even think about that. And where did he get the money from? Yeah. I wouldn't even think about it. I didn't even know you could do that. I had to read up on it. I was like, what?

47:48Ronnie Karam: What is this happening? I just didn't think he had the money to do it. I don't know where he gets his money. I mean, what does he have? He's got Boy George, who he manages. And Boy George is in trouble for writing AI songs about Israel or some shit. Like, what? And didn't you hear about that? He got recanceled. And I think because PK owns like some AI company and I guess it's writing music for Boy George now. I don't know that whole thing. So I thought, what is PK? I mean, I don't know. He's got enough smarts to beat Dorit in this thing. I mean, it didn't take a lot. No, it didn't take a lot. It's Dorit.

48:26Ronnie Karam: I just feel like so many people are warned. Everybody was kind of warning Erica about Tom. She was like, I don't care. I'm rich as hell. I'm rich as hell. Give me a fuck. Like everyone was warning Kyle about Mauricio. I mean, Lisa Vanderpump is still probably stoned in the street every time she walks down the wrong street because she was like, oh, so this is the young woman that Mauricio was seeing. I mean, that's been going on for years. And then Kyle's like, what? So, I don't know. I guess you just never hear it when it's about you. Even though I'm changing my opinion. Not that I'm changing my opinion.

48:57I'm turning a corner with Kyle because she can twerk. um even i feel like it's convenient timing that's why she hasn't divorced him i know everyone's speculating it's because of the millions of dollars that they share and she would get half of it half of it i'm sure that plays a part but i feel like she's like you've been doing what you've been doing you know behind my back for years so now i can use it as a storyline to extend my time on the show and you can gallivant and do do what you do freely cheat free and so

49:28Ronnie Karam: can i yeah and so can i while we still have the same killer bank account oh my gosh because both of them make a ton of money anyway i mean beyond that business she makes a ton of money yeah herself so i don't know i kind of i guess it's kind of like learning to be a gay man you know she's like embraced the gay man lifestyle just kind of an open relationship you know like let's we're still together for all intents and purposes but we can still do our own thing and still get along then have christmas together i guess that would not work for me just an fyi to the future man in my life that's not gonna work for me oh you're not like an open relationship no i'll kill you i'm like a no relationship gay but i mean whenever i've been in them i i would really have a problem if somebody cheated on me but i don't know i would be okay if it was just open for me i guess i'm selfish like that oh my gosh i'm not saying i do it yeah it's open for me that's not for you yes because i feel like i would be able to judge the situation i'm in and be like okay i know that i was safe i know that i was you know this person's not going to stalk us in the future but i don't know i don't have any i don't know how careful you're going to be why should why should i learn that yeah i was wrapped in saran wrap okay what were you doing some rando from the gym sir oh my god i can't and that's why i'm single forever i told you i cordoned myself off now okay let's you know what let's uh talk to the listeners for a little bit you guys if you're listening on audio this is the end of the audio portion but thank you so much for being here thank you for being here kempire i love you go see kempire after dark live in new york city friday september 25th at the green room 42 there is also an in-person meet and greet and a live stream you can get tickets at kempire after dark live.com slash nyc those of us uh or those of you on youtube who want to hang out for a little while stay on here we'll post a link Everybody else, I'll talk to you next time.

51:48Ronnie Karam: Bye. Okay. Let me just post this share link. Okay, so what else are you watching right now on the Braves? Oh, my gosh. I'm watching so much. Salt Lake City is back. Potomac is about to come back. Oh, I might have so much. Let's talk about Potomac. Oh, my God. I have so much tea about Potomac that I'm not sharing here. I'm sharing it behind a paywall at my live show on Friday. I'll tell you later, Ronnie. okay yeah i want to know i think it's looking really good i'm so glad they brought tia back i love tia oh do you what do you love about tia i'm it's not that i don't love tia but i i've heard no one ever say that i love her snottyness and i love her kind of little lisp and her accent and i like how she's like oh my husband's my the nanny the maid and then of course the second season she's like are you cheating on me i can't believe it i can't believe it well i wonder if that's a new situation or is it old oh because you know how they get us with the trailers and the editing is it old cheating or is it new cheating and if it's new cheating how dare he i think i feel like it's new but you know what i fall for every preview i really do i fall for everything that they tell me uh i like her uh i didn't like that she was kind of siding with whoever giselle told her i didn't love that yeah but i just find her funny i don't know um i love her i think she was a decent addition yeah i think she's pretty good um i like stacy as well let's see who else monique didn't do a ton in her first season back no do you think she will this time or do you think it's going to be a lot of stuff going on with monique i don't know if it's going to play out during the season but it's a lot of personal stuff but she's just a friend of us so they don't deep you know they don't dig deep into her own personal story they kind of alluded to it last season when it comes to her her divorce from from chris chris there's a lot of stuff going on when it comes to their their custody situation and people out here trying to ruin her name in these dmv streets what is he doing he's the worst oh my god that fucking guy yeah what has he been saying about her to ruin her reputation i can't say it here oh really okay it's the reason why i don't want saying it's not it's not that i won't say it at the next live show but it's just so bad because i feel like the intention they want us with our platforms to talk about it and i don't want to do that to monique because i feel like it really is trying to ruin her life and i don't yeah it's like playing into his plan he wants us to talk about it watch what crappens would like to thank its

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