#3548 Below Deck Med S11E16: Disbrocated with Ryan Bailey

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2:20Yeah. I've known you for so, I mean, I guess it's, but I've known you for so long, even before, way before I did my podcast. And I always tell that story of being taken to one of your live shows. It was part of a podcasting conference in a small room where like 50 people were there. And I was like, whoa, 50 people showing up to a live podcast. This is insane. And now like, you know, you're selling out huge theaters that my favorite bands can't even sell out. It's insane.

2:46Ronnie Karam: Oh, God, Ryan, that was so much fun. That was a comedy festival or something. I think that's the first one we ever were in. And it was in that hotel room. I remember not a hotel room but like a conference room yeah so weird attached to a hotel we did the Real Housewives of Melbourne you were with malls oh I'll never forget it the times the times we've had over the years your podcast is oh go ahead no I was just saying I was thinking about the the time we saw Countess Luann at like the underground cabaret facility in Los Angeles and then we all went to like sir after we all went to sir afterwards and it was uh ridiculous and that was when dj james kennedy was asking if i could score him blow you know and i was like he's like i know you and i was like you don't know me he's like no i do you have blow i was like i do not have blow how dj james kennedy greets everybody probably to this day i was scared I already thought I was Randall Emmett.

3:47Ronnie Karam: I was a little snockered at that one. I got kicked out of the end of Countess Luann, and then I ended up literally under the bar with James Kennedy, just sitting under the bar the whole night. That was the time. So all the people that have been canceled since that night, there have just been so many. You out Countess Luann Luann. I mean, Luann is like on the, you know, she's on a generational run right now on Ultimate Girls Trip. It's amazing. Oh, she really is. making megalomania fun again bless her heart uh well everybody check out ryan's podcast it's so bad it's good with right ryan bailey wherever you get your podcasts and follow him on insta listen to him on the jeff lewis show he's a jump he's a jumper and um also come see us watch what crappens is going on tour we start october 3rd this is where we're going to be in october and november i'm just going to say them real quick kansas city chicago minneapolis detroit philadelphia Washington D.C.

4:44Ronnie Karam: Dallas Texas Austin Texas and Houston Texas that is all in October November so go get your tickets at what and there's a lot of cities just go get them all right now watch what crap happens dot com and today is below deck Mediterranean have you felt about this season of below deck med I love this season and now we're getting to the end of it where I'm getting sad they just had the preview for below deck that's going to to start airing in a little bit and just means we have to say goodbye to these people and i would be okay if this season just kept going on forever and ever it is like my vibey show that i oh i love i mean not you know not i mean this actually is kind of story heavy compared to other episodes but i could just i could just watch surveillance cameras of this cast i love it i mean you kind of do you know that's what this show is is watching surveillance camera of people cleaning a boat you know and then well no but this was great because we had somebody we had somebody near death this this week i mean somebody broke a bone and that's really exciting on a below deck episode when you have somebody like get bodily injured yeah dislocated the shoulder threw her right over and man her friends didn't really give a fuck huh they didn't go with her to the doctors at all they just kept they were like what are you gonna wear tonight it was insane that was and she was pretty good I think for I mean she has to go to surgery now they say on the show so she's gonna have to fly back on a plane miserably and then go to surgery I would have been the biggest complaining mess and she was like I'm fine well maybe it hurts a little to sit she didn't even complain and then they left her ass sitting down there waiting for the doctor on a different deck and they went to a different deck and we're like oh well it's nice to know her she was I like captain sandy shutting the door to the minivan that takes her to the hospital she's like there you go don't see i'm not helpful all right so we open up with this she's on the guests are on this spinny thing and joe and nathan who are both awful douchebags um are fighting over head squeegee position like they both want it really really bad like i want the biggest squeegee and so they're constantly fighting so now it's joe's turn to get in trouble because he is driving the spinny thing too fast yeah and he's so cocky because the last couple of episodes he had to take over for nathan and so it's really gotten to his head so he is like i can do the spinny thing the best and nathan is scared for his job so he really is trying to like it's like a big pissing contest with these guys yeah um and i don't i don't want either one of them to win i think that's what bothers me about this show this season is these two because you've got nathan who's you know the big fat abuser on the way you know on the run from the law and then they're editing in all these sweet scenes nathan and nathan and gail nathan and gail i thought there was i thought there was no way we would see those see i thought they would edit that date out at the very end i thought there was no way that they were going to show gail and nathan hanging out and Aisha babysitting, but yet they, they left it fully in.

7:52And this dude is currently on the run right now. Like I always like think at the end of the episode, they should put a, like, have you seen this man? Like, because he's out there on the lamb.

8:02Ronnie Karam: Yeah, actually that would be, that's not a bad idea. Of course, I guess if they've seen him, well, yeah, you still have to have a number to call, you know? Yeah. At least put the number up there for people to call. Cause if I saw him in the grocery store, I'd just be like, Oh my God, read it. Guess what? guess who i saw yeah yeah he was buying the sushi with the spider sauce noob or the dragon sauce what's a really sweet one uh anyway i don't know what's wrong with me today and i'm completely sober i apologize so um nathan is on the run i agree with you i was surprised they kept those scenes in because throughout the season people are like why are they keeping nathan in when normally they edit out people who do shit that terrible no one's done anything that terrible i think nathan actually takes the prize for that one but normally they edit out problematic guys like gary they put on the cutting room floor you know to the point i mean we don't have an interview it's like i was a good episode they cut me out of that it was actually a lot of good drama gary ruined below deck sailing yacht but we'll never see sailing Yonigan because of Gary.

9:09Ronnie Karam: Pretty much. Yeah. So they edited him out and then canceled it. But this one, I thought, well, maybe they are editing Nathan out because we don't really see that much of him. We've only seen him being like, oh, Joe. Joe's trying to take my squeegee. But I thought maybe he's not in it that maybe they have edited him out, but not today. Not this episode. Yeah. Because I thought I thought the back half of the season would be Nathan and Joe Bradley you know just really going at it head to head where it would get physical and i thought oh they're going to edit that whole storyline out but yeah this episode shows that they're definitely not editing that out because i think it leaves on a to be continued when gail like tries to have a conversation with joe at the end in the uh the van yeah um yeah i don't need the nathan scenes left in for sure so sandy calls the medic for this lady and you know this lady's in such good spirits i I think this is why you should be more of a drama queen in life because squeaky wheels get the grease, you know, and this lady is not a squeaky wheel.

10:11She's like, well, I mean, ow.

10:14Ronnie Karam: I mean, I think I heard a crack, but I'm not sure. They're like, whatever. Yes, margarita. Yes, I have to spinny thing. No, I am the same way as this lady was. Like, I remember when I was like 13 or 14 years old, we took a trip to like Glendale for like from Arizona. And we were at my uncle's place. I dove off a pool slide at the top of it that all my cousins were. And I was scared to do it. And I tripped on the slide and I came down on like half of my body. It just like hit the cement. And then I passed out. But I remember like they were like, he's going into shock. And I said, no way. I'm not going to the hospital because we were going to Disneyland the next day.

10:53So I was like, I'll walk it off. Turns out it got worse and worse. And I had broken all the ribs on the left side of my body and bruised my kidney. me but i wouldn't have said anything but the pain became too much yeah well damn yeah i'm kind of

11:08Ronnie Karam: like that just because i don't want to look embarrassed you know yeah i was like no it's bleed i'd just rather bleed out how did ronnie go out he bled out captain sandy was right there he didn't say anything uh so they decide she has to go to the hospital and then um jen sees the medic and sounds like oh my god why is that medic kind of hot like i do him i do we know the way she gets so horny immediately when she sees a guy like or a new guy that was one of my favorite parts of this episode was jen immediately going what's his deal what's his number like is he like is that a sagittarius he's amazing i don't i mean thank god it wasn't an ugly medic she would have just been like ew why is he ugly you know what just bring me another medic i'll just wait i'll just wait i'll just wait for medical help until there's someone hotter it would be great that's how she's gonna go she's gonna get in a bad accident and refuse anybody that's not hot although the medic's gonna send joy flowers next week and like completely like jen's gonna lose her mind um so cat's like oh Oh my God.

12:21Ronnie Karam: Not now. Now's not the time to talk about hot people. That lady is going to the hospital, John.

12:30Ronnie Karam: Such a good person. I mean, but this is what they train for, right? Like Captain Sandy in these moments, you really see her like this. You can tell this is like, this is when the job gets to be the job. So she's like, bring those toys in as fast as you can. And I always love it. It's like bringing the toys in, bring the pool toys in as fast as you can that's sandy's saying the toys and the tablescapes although she's been lighter on the tablescapes lately i think after the hannah stuff she was like you know what i'm gonna calm down a little bit on the tablescapes i think that's why america hates me you're just going a little too hard on the tablescapes so now she's all water toys all the time but i love that your job is like bring in the 30 foot inflatable slide as quickly as possible a lady's clavicle is on the right yeah it's like 9-1-1 sandy what's your take well we could take her in with uh with the tender but that's going to be real bumpy for her so the only way we're going to be able to get her back is to get these toys in asap get the toys in it's a matter of life and death i like the cat was like there's a bone sticking out where it shouldn't stick out and the lady's like it's all good just whatever you need to do it's all good everything's good you guys my favorite was jory the chef going ah poor michelle eats carbs only for three days and now she break her shoulder her bones are probably hollow and then the new guy is like it's like spaghetti it is like spaghetti her bone is like spaghetti not the good spaghetti the twisty spaghetti all right 35 minutes 35 minutes max before michelle just kills over dead right get that slide in get that slide in so they're doing that and um sandy gives us her monologue about emergency situations jack you got to stabilize a person get him straight to the hospital in this case we got to deflate the banana god i love that banana

14:33and then joe joe is like she's going to be traumatized for the rest of her life and i did this to her like joe always joe thinks he's like like mel gibson or something like he always talks like really intense i did this tour it's gonna be traumatizing for me for the rest of my

14:48Ronnie Karam: life he has that whisper talk where he talks with his teeth and makes his eyes really wide he's like i feel so bad because i'm driving and it's my responsibility but a gust of wind came from out of nowhere and moved it it's like well you're on the ocean i mean that's how it works i like that he's making it sound biblical. He's like Moses. We had the pool slide. I mean, I love it was like Maverick and Goose from Top Gun, where it's like Goose died on Maverick's watch. And Joe Bradley is like, that's all I need is for this lady to die on my watch. Because this will then he'll have to hang up his cleats forever.

15:28Ronnie Karam: Oh my god, this is so hot! Do you think it was sort of on the fact, man? Jim, inappropriate. It's 20 years later. um so they do get the toys loaded on yeah and then um michelle is telling her friends she's like just leave me go watch a sunset on the sun deck guys like i'm i couldn't will i be dead in the next 10 minutes probably i don't know just make sure i'm buried with bagels lots and lots of bagels anything bread anything don't worry but you don't think you don't think these women would listen to her and these women listen to her implicitly they do not check up on her once from that point on yeah they go up to the other deck and this poor lady is like sitting down there waiting for the ambulance by herself for doing what she's doing guys you can also see the sun deck on that deck or the you can see the sunset because the sun is setting and it's the whole sky well there's usually like the one friend that will stay with the hurt friend like there's always the one friend that even if they're not doing it with good intentions they want to be known as the friend that helps out none of these friends are the ones that want to help out this lady and she seems like a nice enough lady she's nice enough i think that they're uh i think that everybody hates her because she only eats carbs and i i've really never thought about it because it's kind of like me i really only carbs as well and i mean some cheese you know some stuff to put on the carbs occasionally but like my life is mostly about carbs and i really never thought of like how separated i've been from society until I watch this.

16:59Ronnie Karam: Because this woman gets no respect, and I think it's just because of the carbs. They're like, fuck her. She's dying. All she ate is bread anyway. Just leave her. Leave her on the lower deck. She deserves it. I hate that. When you watch your skinny friends that can eat anything, like the hate, like I do pray for people to get fat as they get older, and I know that's nice to do. But like as somebody that's like yo-yoed my whole life, I'm like the Luther Vandross of podcasting, and it is very frustrating, as Lisa Barlow would say, to watch people that are able to eat anything like to to eat bread without any sort of worry about your waistline would be so that's like a superpower well i'm medicated so i can only eat so much of it or i'll pop like a goldfish oh dude running i just got on i just got on wagovi a couple months ago and it like they they up the dose every month and now i'm finally up to a dose where it rocked me on saturday or sunday we got like some donuts and i ate a donut and i felt the sickest I had felt in years.

18:00And she was like, I was like, I was like, yes,

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20:09Ronnie Karam: Okay, I get that. It's noise. That's annoying. But you guys are a TV boat. You've got to be the most annoying boat to be docked next to. Yeah, you have camera crews everywhere. But I like that they set it up that this is traumatizing for Nathan because five weeks ago he got rattled by the party bus and they crashed in the dock. And so Nathan's having flashbacks of this instance. And I thought they were setting up that Nathan was going to go off on the party bus. Like, shut the F up, party bus. I thought he was going to lose it. That's what I felt like they were setting up in that moment. yeah you want a piece of me party boss you can have a piece of me to look scared of yeah um so it's very dangerous so everybody's scared that they're going to crash again and um you know it's nathan we get nathan nathan nathan meters nathan meters he's like 18 meters until i beat somebody in their head you know whatever and um he's calling distances uh our note taker emily says nathan calls all of his distances beautifully

21:17god bless this note taker that's amazing but also i love that sandy compliments nathan on his docking like nathan that's very good you did very good docking today like you did she was like overly

21:29Ronnie Karam: complimentary for nathan yeah it's like a baby who doesn't throw their food on the ground one time. You're like, oh my God, you did it. You're the best person ever. I also was having flashbacks because I'm re-watching season three of Rony, and I just got to the first part of the Scary Island episodes where Ramona visits the Hooters yacht, and then she's like, Turtle time! Bethany, do you have 15 minutes for turtle time? I was just like, it would be great if the party bus just had Ramona walking out and dancing. Well, you know what? That spinny thing, I think I may have dislocated my shoulder, but I don't even know.

22:06Ronnie Karam: Party! Just keep going. Any of those ladies will just keep going. So now we're in the crew mess, and they're talking about what to do for dinner, and Joy's like, oh, the lady who only eat carb is gone, so now we do only meat. Barbecue. It's like, geez. God forbid you make some toast for a day. I like that Sandy goes, I really have to make it up to these ladies, so I'm going to eat with them tonight. I like that Sandy's the big prize. Like, I've got to really pull out all the stops now, so I will watch and eat with them. They're going to hear a Gigi Fernandez story if it's the death of me. I'm giving these ladies the ultimate reward.

22:48Ronnie Karam: A free women empowerment session with Captain Sandy. I interviewed Captain Sandy at BravoCon last year, and she has a book, like a motivational book, I guess. and um she was showing me pictures of a young captain like her young captain sandy riding horses and i was just like this is incredible you know she you know pre getting sober and things like that and i was just like man i would give anything to see a you know captain sandy at her tipsiest on a horse yeah on a horse just bareback on a horse yeah she used to do uh i think she still does them but like women empowerment things you know that was her thing like she'd tour around and be like wow women of the sea by captain sandy at the marriott you know and you'd pay to go be empowered i would kill to get one of those tapes here's the first thing bring in the toys bring in the toys okay if ever you're doubting yourself do your food do your food and no volume whatever you do no volume oh yeah well no volume or um vapes oh god what a what a c and that that season happened during the pandemic and i remember we were already angry during the pandemic and that whole thing happened with hannah and i just remember just like damn it i was so angry at captain sandy during that season i was too i think she's had a pretty good recovery over the years i mean an amazing i I mean, yeah.

24:22And Hannah was just on a couple episodes ago, which was amazing to see.

24:26Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And Hannah's like, I forgive her. She came to see my baby. And we're forgiven. We're friends now. I'm like, come on now. But yeah, that pandemic thing was rough because it was, you know, it was all of us stuck at home holding Valium and a vape. Like, how dare you? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, how dare you judge me? I remember Salt Lake City premiered during the pandemic And it was just It was so bizarre Watching your Bravo But you watched it with such an intensity During the pandemic It was already bad But that took it to the stratosphere We were freaking out about every show Yeah Well that was the old Real Housewives of New York Yeah that was the season Where everything had to change after that right?

25:13Ronnie Karam: Yes the ebony season Yeah Yeah. Okay. So Sandy gets a text from the medic. Michelle's clavicle, fully broken. She's going to need surgery when she gets home. For now, it's going to be stabilized. And she's sleeping with someone whispering in her ear what I've told them. Do your food. So he sends a picture of the x-ray, which, I mean, I don't need that. You know, like I believe you. I believe you, hot medic. I don't need to see broken bones. Watch yourself. Watch what you text me. yeah jen's like send me those photos it's like is this a hot medics x-rays oh my god she's so hot so sandy tells asha about uh the bad news or whatever blah blah blah so now we get the yearly male strip tease on this show that's another thing i don't need i don't need your x-ray pictures and i don't need i don't need the cleaning people stripping I just wonder like it makes you like because all the all the guests always seem pretty psyched about these performances, but all the performances always seem so mid.

26:22They seem so like not good and not a lot of talent. And the stripping thing was even worse. They were like Eiffel Towering that like blow up doll. And I was like, this is borderline. Like if you are on a fancy yacht, like I can't believe Sandy's like we have to have the best food, but the cheapest entertainment known to man. like they I mean it is so weirdly off-putting and if I was working on there like I don't want to I don't even take off my shirt in the shower there's no way that I would be like oh now I have to strip after working all day getting the pool toys in that's how I feel I see myself coming out of the shower in the mirror and I'm like why why can we just go back to mirrors that are only this big

27:00Ronnie Karam: I mean I remember when I first well that actually wasn't my first time gaining 200 pounds but like my fourth time gaining 200 pounds i didn't even notice until i was like three sizes i kept having to buy new clothes but i didn't really i was like i still look great because i could only see this much of my face in the mirror well that's the thing there's no standard mirrors too like different mirrors make you look great and other mirrors you're like what the hell like there needs to be a standardized mirror that we're all using or we just don't use them at all because i've seen myself in some mirrors where i'm like that looks great and then you see yourself under like an outdoor mirror and you're like this is insane i look like sloth from the goonies it's insane yeah from the way that i actually look from the way that i stand when i know there's a mirror there i'm like an evolution chart like i'm standing like this but then when you see me walking my knuckles are dragging on the ground i look nothing like i do when i see that there's a mirror there we need like filters instagram filter mirrors where you can just put the filter on yourself and see yourself that way why does it only work digitally no i mean but if we go that far why don't we just have filters that like we carry around with us that just that people see us through a filter 24 7 that's actually a really good idea you know that black mirror where everybody is digitized so like you upload yourself and everyone's like oh this is the darkness of the future give it to me that's all i want i don't like my sister like my sister's really into religion my sister was telling me like she's really into religion she tells me her church they believe you go to heaven and you are your most beautiful like you know like like whatever age you are your most beautiful and i'm like but what if you've never thought you were beautiful your entire life i don't mean this to sound dark but it's like what if you like like i was like i don't want to see myself at 50 i mean i look like a dork throughout the entire time who chooses what age you're the most beautiful at and you get to be like you know actually i i don't love this can i go to something else like i think about that all the time if that heaven exists how do you how to who judge who votes on what when you were your most beautiful which version of you yeah because some people say like oh it's younger you know everybody's more beautiful when they're younger i i wasn't really i mean i've always been kind of the same dork you know so i'm with you i wouldn't really want that i think only hot people like that religion is your sister hot yeah she's good looking so there you go she's like oh i'm gonna be the hottest i've ever been in heaven like that's not what heaven is okay heaven's a club heaven is a club and you can get bottle service and it's amazing yeah the normal homely people are like well here i am in heaven still stuck at homely set 16 for the rest of my life and then if you're ugly in heaven you know you're gonna look at other people and be like you're silently judging me because i'm not as good looking as you yeah because they will even in heaven i don't think people are gonna like suddenly be good people in heaven just because it's heaven yeah how do you like forget all of the contempt that you have for other people in heaven does that magically just go away no i think it would get worse you because they're their hottest version of themselves i mean at least now when you have contempt for people you're like well maybe they're insecure but in heaven they're like i'm not insecure now i'm the hottest yeah religion don't need it okay also don't need um my waiters stripping i just don't need it it's like i don't i was a singing waiter once nobody needed that and i just saw the horror on people's face as i opened my mouth to sing proud mary was there a level was there a level of shame was there a level of shame associated with that job like every night where you're like, what am I doing?

30:44Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but it's also one of those things like being young in New York and you're like, I'm a professional singer. I'm doing it. I'm burning. I'm at the off-off Broadway Sbarro's, yeah. Yeah, like I'm telling all my friends, I'm a professional singer in New York City. Ronnie's really, he's really doing it. Yeah, I'm also holding a chicken cutlet in my left hand. But the point is, I'm paid to be here and I'm singing and people are going to sit there and they're going to listen to it. So they strip. It's gross. And the part that you brought up was the fucking the blow up doll. Yeah, it is creepy because it's not just a blow up doll.

31:25Ronnie Karam: It's got the face of their friend taped on there. Yeah. And then the new guy who was like, like he was very enthused to like strip. He took the mouth part of it. Like so Joe took the behind part of it and then he took the mouth part of it. and it did get like even awkward for me at home and i have the ability to turn off the television but i was like they are way too into this it got way too crazy and sandy was like i should have i should have left at this time i should like i'm shocked that he she doesn't talk to them about performance standards yeah i mean i it was it was problematic i thought and i feel weird being like that with a blow-up doll but it was i didn't like but ron but ronnie was like but also hot as hell hot no no because it's joe it's just like i don't know it's just not bring strippers you know what i mean i feel like it's it's disregarding all the work that strippers put in people just assume that strippers was like oh that's the easiest job in the world you just take off your clothes no you do a lot of push-ups and pull-ups and helicopters on your wiener to get it just right you know you have to sit there and like get it ready rubber band it off i mean i don't know what they do but it looks it doesn't look easy to me when they both got in and i was like oh my god how many times have austin and craig been in this exact same situation with somebody i was like this is austin and craig at their worst back in like pre like when they hung out with each other during the pandemic sorry i keep bringing up the pandemic it's just been on my mind okay we're really going back today i also like the one lady at the dinner was like sort of attracted to messy the guy she was like he's so cute it was like he's he's filthy well just how she said it was so rude too because she's like guys um are you gonna judge me because i'm kind of into him to him i'm into that one they're like no i mean he's he's cute i think he's cute but listen i love the smell of a cigarette you know because i used to smoke for so long and so So even when I pass people smoking cigarettes, I'm like, but I still sniff really deeply when I pass them.

33:30Ronnie Karam: So I think that I would be like that with him. But, oh, he smells like, he smells like habits. He smells like bad habits.

33:40Ronnie Karam: So we have a little scene of Kat getting annoyed with Jen because Jen is the worst, you know, not doing anything, being lazy, putting on her wrist thing. So she has an excuse to not do anything. and Kat's like, Jen used to be a good star who was negative and now she's just like a bad stew but she's also negative.

34:03Aisha's hidden Jen away and trying to not let her like really kind of move around with people but Jen still finds ways to like negative the whole vibe so she'll just like pop in and say something negative and pop back out and we're coming off her putting Chef Joy's like clothes in with the dish rags so she's on a generational run right now of just negativity and she knows it too. Like she loves being a virus on this ship.

34:27Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she really does. It's very Jen how she gets later in the episode where she starts victimizing herself in every situation. She starts a terrible situation and then makes herself a victim and then goes to the next person and retells a story in a complete lie-y way to make herself the victim again. But it is classic. You know, you don't get this many people who are that unguarded on TV. No, that's what I'm saying. Like, I think people are like, oh, I hate her so much. But that's part of watching these shows. You have to have somebody you passionately dislike. And it's great. I think she's doing it a little different than other people I passionately dislike.

35:03And it makes the show entertaining. So I would say bring her back for another season at this point.

35:09Ronnie Karam: Ten. You know, there's like a lot of things on this show I concentrate that I don't want to see. Like, I don't want to see the waiters stripping. I don't want to, you know, blah, blah, blah. It's always complaining. I do want to watch Jen get old. oh you know that i want i want 50 years of jen i don't care if she gets her own spinoff and it's just like a little ring cam in her apartment that's fine i just want to see how it works out for jen yeah i have a feeling i know how it's going to work out for jen but i would love to be wrong also she provided us with the jizz towels which i've never in a million years i never thought we would get a below deck episode about jizz towels i was like the jizz towels need to be at bravo con or like in the clubhouse or something like that because oh the sheets sorry the jizz sheets yeah um um that to me was just i never thought i would see the day where captain sandy would have to write an incident report about that yeah i had to tell uh every captain who's ever worked as a captain about your uh your jizz so uh it's a comfortable email that's right luke thanks thanks for that he's like oh my god i can't take it did you just come did you just come right now that's very inappropriate now i have to update my incident report ah oops he did it again love you captain sandy so uh cat and coop are talking about their plans after the season because he told her i think last week he's like well i'm gonna take a couple days after the season just kind of hang out in Dubrovnik and say oh well that that sounds funny he's like well you could come which I guess she took as a romantic like oh me and you two days in Dubrovnik finally no Ronnie I thought no I thought he was giving her the signals that he could be romantic with her away from these people on the boat I feel like he did mislead her in this moment he's misled her the whole time he misleads her every single time because he's like well we need it for people not to see us it's just i think it's like watching the traders where we know who the bad guys are and so we're like are you idiots you can't figure this out because we see them being that episode where he tried to hide from the cameras and threw her in like a closet on the boat where he's like we can talk here without the mics you know and i was like how much is she going to put up with like he's like throwing her into like little dark corners so nobody can see or hear them and at the same time he wants to be a good guy to everybody else and allegedly he might be doing something with chef joy because they are on this next season which they i think just finished filming but that's the big rumor is that chef joy and coop might be doing the hippity-dippity yeah cat had a whole tiktok video where she's like oh my god hi guys did you see that yes it was so weird i just see i want her to stop talking about it just like stop talking about it you learned your lesson don't like you don't just act like you don't care just act like you don't care yeah don't make one bad chapter your whole story am i right wait wait i could have learned that at the captain sandy event had i gone but yeah i i think i just i've seen him treat her like shit so many times now that i'm getting mad that she is still like oh i know but i get mad because i see myself it's like projection you know because that's i just have so many bad stories with men you know like where i'm just thinking what what what kind of idiot were you but i knew and i was still like but they love me and that's just how i'm in horror I mean he's so sweet when he called me that sweet little nickname My Little Shame Oh my god I just miss him so much My Little Hidden Ronnie Yeah But Haley on the other side Haley has fun with it because Haley makes out with Joe Bradley all the time But she seems like she's good with like Keeping it chill like I like to kiss boys But I'm not too caught up in any of this Yeah I don't know I think Joe's just doing a better job at like keeping that part hidden because she did call him out the first time.

39:28Ronnie Karam: The one episode. Where he's like, I'm going to flirt with other people. What do you think of that? And she's like, I don't like that. And so she called him out right away. But I don't want to give Joe too much credit because Joe is such a bastard on this show. And I've seen him be such an asshole to people. People forget about what he did last season. And I think that if he had another option, he would be jumping on it. Oh, of course. He was so horrible last season. And I do feel bad about the situation he's going through with his mom, but it is funny how Bravo audiences forget. Like he'll say one sweet thing and he like, he has like the best voice ever and the biggest eyebrows that'll distract you that you forgot.

40:02Shit. Hello. Oh,

40:04Ronnie Karam: Ronnie. I'm vaping. Oh, I mean, I've been, I've been vaping on camera, but usually I take myself off. Sorry. I should have warned you. I do that. So yeah, I was like, Oh no, take it all. Take all my smoke. Okay. Go ahead. He was, No, I was just saying that he was a bastard last season. And I think Bravo audiences are easy to forgive or easy to forget. And so they're just like, oh, he's a really cute guy and he means well. And he really wants to do good for the boat. And he doesn't. He is tricking you, stopping stupid. All of you. Once a Joe, always a Joe. Sorry. Especially when it's not like it was one little mistake.

40:40Ronnie Karam: It was two seasons in a row of him doing that shit. So I think if he had other options on this boat, he would be taking them for sure and fucking with Kat. I mean, he is the Wes Wilson of the high seas. I mean, he is slightly hotter than West, I guess. I'll give him that. But slightly is doing heavy lifting. So Coop tells Kat, oh, by the way, Joe's going to be coming on our trip. Isn't that great? She's like, um, what? What in the hell are you saying? I'm going to be like third wheeling it with you and Joe. Yes. So say you don't want to go, please. I know. Have like a little self-respect. Do not, or just go to Dubrovnik by yourself for a couple of days.

41:25Learn more about yourself. But like, it is weird how he like, he's eaten in the crew mass and he's like, oh, it's going by great. It's going by great. And like, you know, really trying to like, oh, it's going to be the most amazing time. And I'm like, dude, if you were like, and I've done, you just be straightforward with her, cut her loose fully because this dude kept playing her even when this season was airing. And he went on watch what happens live and was like, he kind of insinuated they might still be dating to Andy, which was not the case at all. He's trying to be a good guy, but he wants to be a normal Bravo Liberty.

41:57And I would love to see this dude's DMS right now.

42:01Ronnie Karam: Oh, yeah, I'm sure he needs to be a Southern term guy because he's got the whole he's got it down. oh yeah and doesn't he wait doesn't he live in charleston yeah wow he'll be on there he'll be on there one day so uh and he's the worst kind of guy to me because he picks you with his oh good guy and he's really good at keeping it up but he's really bad at keeping it up when they're around joe every single time they go hang out he turns he has a couple of drinks and gets really mean he gets a really mean glint in his eye and he does something to hurt her feelings on purpose and he thinks it's hilarious like he and joe just keep looking at each other like hey yeah nailed it do not go you're in dubrovnik dump him go go hook up with dubrovnik people yeah she's really cute she's like she has a great smile she's like she's awesome she just needs to get away from this dude yeah agreed so now um mossy is flirting with joy and um she's like you look like salt bay it's kind of funny and kind of true yeah and she says yeah i see this man is flirting with me but listen this is below deck and people don't end up with good guys on here i'm really into the sheet splooger silly were you surprised that were you surprised luke sent the flowers do you think that was just because cameras were rolling or do you think he really really feels something with chef joy i think it's because cameras are rolling yeah but i think it's also someone who stood up to him and so you know it's like he can be an asshole to somebody and then he gets to say i'm sorry to somebody because you know when you're an asshole a lot of people are just so used to people being assholes that they write you off but i think to someone with a sick mind like i think he's got like a sick mind where it's like oh she cares because she she stayed mad at me yeah she's she sees the real me yeah and she's still here i'm gonna send her some trader joe's flowers But also, I think he probably did it to piss Jen off, too.

44:15Yeah. Oh, well, mission accomplished. Mission accomplished.

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48:00Ronnie Karam: That was really fun. Alright, we're going to bed. Have a good time. Hey, could you throw her a piece of sour dough or something? She's starving to death. Alright, bye, stupid. Do you think it was weird that she came back on the boat? If like, she really, if this is not going to be, it needs surgery, it's not going to be fixed, wouldn't you put her in a hotel for the night? Why did they put her back on the boat? I don't know. I don't know, man, but she's a trooper. I think she just wanted to, you know, see the rest of her trip. She probably paid 10 grand to be there. It's like her portion. So she just wants to go have fun, but I don't think anybody likes her.

48:34Ronnie Karam: They're like, she's broken. Don't talk to her. She's a broken lady, physically and emotionally. Okay, so Kaylee, Cat Clean. Kaylee is asking Cat about her season plans, and she's like, well, I mean, I guess I'm going to be staying in an Airbnb with Joe and Cooper. What the heck? You know these are the kind of guys that's going to like fart right in front of her and like, ha ha, good one, Joe. Yeah. Yeah, it's not going to be good. And Kaylee's like, oh, God, I wish she would just stand up first as elf and, you know, just not even give him the pleasure. Just not go. Just don't go. Which she's, of course, correct.

49:16Ronnie Karam: Then the next morning, Joe and Nathan have an awkward moment where they don't speak to each other. They just stand on the deck, not speaking. and Nathan's like I don't know what more I can say about me and Joe at this point it's a joke it's a complete fucking joke

49:33I'm ready for both of these I don't know how this is good this is I guess good for TV drama but if you were running this boat you would not use either of these guys like there is too many there's a lot of mind games being played and it doesn't need to be this way it's a yacht you just need to put the bumpers out and park correctly that's all we need and get the pool toys in it doesn't need to be this sort of like mind games where there's like all of these pathos and layers and people are going to their therapist

50:02Ronnie Karam: later in life about how they treated each other yeah i think a lot of it is just because the show is limited because if you work on this boat you have to be really worked out you know how whenever they show the crew that's not on tv but they're really the people who run the boat they used to every season where they're like here's mike and lynn and mike and they're all you know cousins and they worked the boat like hey who worked the boat like but they don't work out this is the last time you'll ever see them so i think when she's calling norma for new people she's like norma do you have anybody that can possibly do this cleaning job that works out a lot and has a six-pack no okay i mean dubrovnik has to be so tired of captain sandy calls because she calls him like every day for something new.

50:51Ronnie Karam: Yeah. This is not going well over there on this season. So now we get Kat getting more and more annoyed with Jen because she's like, Jen, could you ask the shop if she needs these plates? Like, yeah, whatever. Yeah, okay. Did you ask her if she needs a plate? No. Okay, well, I guess I'll ask her if she needs a plate. Jen's just like, she's not hot enough to answer. Wait, did you, I forgot. There was a moment, and I don't know if you caught this on the dinner where they were bringing in like the food dishes from the dinner and i swear to god jen was eating somebody's leftovers from the plate one of the guests did you catch that at all no she was eating food off one of the guest plates that she had like cleared that's that's a gross um uh i've done that and i think that they do that ronnie it's like i think i've done that too i've done that too I've done it.

51:44Ronnie Karam: I'm sorry, but when I was a poor waiter, I'm like, whoa, look at all this wasted focaccia. Jesus. This is disgusting. Take that, capitalism.

52:00Ronnie Karam: So Aisha comes in, and Kat's like, you know, she's like, are you okay, Kat? What's going on with you? There seems to be some clouds over the port emotionally. Tell Auntie Asia. And she's like, well, it's just like I'm at my website with Jen because, like, she's so negative. She's like, hmm. Well, I've tried to be soft and shove her in the laundry, but apparently that doesn't work. I'll show some leadership. How do you feel about that squirt? Do you think when she does go and give Jen the firm leadership, Did you, cause I mean, Asha got a little serious for Asha and Jen immediately freaks out. Jen is like, I've never had somebody talk to me that way in my life.

52:46And I was like, whoa, that was like nothing. That was still pretty nice.

52:51Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And most people would get those signals from Asha because Asha is so over the top sweet that if she doesn't like you, it's got to feel, you know, cause she just gives you that look like oh wow that's really your personality and i feel horrible for you you know she just looks like i feel so bad for you for having to be you you know yeah and most people would pick up on that but not jen not jen she never knows it well it was like larza talking to lisa barlow on ultimate girls trip this week where she was like you've really got to stop name dropping you really got to stop name dropping and i'm like dude lisa if larza pippin's the one telling you to stop name dropping that's why you should probably listen but she doesn't listen and jen is clearly not hearing asia no matter if asia's nice and no matter if asia's mean she will make herself the victim in any scenario she's that talented at it that it is doesn't matter what asia does from this point on yeah yeah um i think cat's doing a pretty good job of sticking up to jen though because jen comes back and she's like oh my god i will never understand the cat or what's her face is stupid face pretty face uh kaylee i will never understand her like system with the laundry i mean it's like so stupid you just washed rags with joy's laundry are you really going to be the person to say this today and she's so badly because it's probably worked so many times in her life where she'll say something negative and somebody will be like oh my god i totally know what you're talking about that's horrible and i love that cat's like yo just chill out like it's not that big of a deal and jen's like what's your deal you don't want to talk shit with me you're crazy yeah i mean that's how i make friends especially waiting tables or something where you're like oh my god that lady and they're like yes i know and then you're like oh we're best friends forever you know those those are the friendships that really last but if you try that shit out on someone and they're not negative back you don't just keep being negative no you know you just learn to put on your mask and pretend you're a good person yes well but i do love that once asia gave her like a firmer talking to she comes back in and she's like jen i appreciate that you've always been so honest to me like you are always just so honest with me and asia's horrible i was like that i mean that kind of switch up that takes talent yeah but she's just she's just such a bad manipulator i have to say i mean it's i guess it's a talent i guess it's a delusion right that she's just so that cuckoo that she'll try and victimize herself to everybody she sees but she's so bad at it i mean for someone who's been trying this hard to not manipulate one single thing the entire season is just really it's so sad but obliviousness i think is one of the greatest qualities the reality star can have if you are oblivious and you will never learn that is something that will provide oodles and hours of entertainment for us like if we have people learning all the i mean the thing about when when jacks was acceptable to like you know it would because he was like a work in progress that never had any progress and it was like the fact that he would keep saying it you're like lol like it was a joke and now it's like the joke's not so funny anymore but like those kind of people that like everybody's telling them like you need to course correct and they don't course correct that's amazing because most people do course correct yeah and i think you're right it fuels bravo you know like i always say what what would you rather have if you could have one of these two things, hands down, would you rather have the talent of a brilliant singer or the delusional self-confidence to think that you're an amazing singer, even though you can't sing for shit like Luann, you know, somebody like that.

56:30Ronnie Karam: I think I would choose the delusion, you know, before I got into that could get you further in so many different walks of life than just the 20. Yeah. No, 20 years ago, I would have said the talent. Now I would say the delusion. And like, I started off as an acting teacher and being able to watch people come in, not realizing they were bad is such the biggest gift that you can have because eventually you can be taught to be better. You know, if you like, because most people will be like, I'm bad. I'm not going to do this again. If they realize they're bad, but you would see people just not realize and not get it.

57:00And then they eventually get better. Like Luann now makes a decent living singing and you almost kind of weirdly find it inspired. We live in this real world when you watch Bravo, where you're like, that's inspiring like what Luann's journey is is inspiring it is inspiring because you know the

57:18Ronnie Karam: people who are brilliantly talented you know but don't have that kind of confidence they're probably off doing something else by now because they didn't have that like I can do it I can do it no matter what and then you've got people like Luann who are you know living their best life at in their 50s, you know, because they just, there's delusional. I like Luanne's voice is getting hoarser and hoarser throughout Ultimate Girl. Let's go, ladies! Oh, Dima style! Like, I can't wait to hear her voice in the very end because it keeps getting worse and worse each week. But she doesn't know it because it sounds the same to her.

57:54Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Hey, ladies, anybody hear my song? It's on TikTok. You want to watch it in the backseat? it's really it's eventually gonna just be like like i wish i had it like sandpaper you know

58:20so this cat and jen stuff so i'm just gonna go through it because it's so funny watching cat

58:26Ronnie Karam: pivot i mean a jen pivot with all of her lies so she's like yeah this girl sucks with laundry it's like well i don't think she sucks with laundry and i really don't appreciate you being negative about the second stew jen and you're negative all the time and i'm i'm sick of it it's like okay well i wasn't talking shit yeah you were and you're always like this do not speak about my second stew or any of the crew ever again in front of me and i'm sick of it so she's like oh my god so then she goes straight to asia and she's like um yeah like um i guess i was just having a conversation with her where i was saying i don't really understand laundry and then she was just like she just like really let me have it and i just want you to be aware that it really hurt and she's like really hurtful and i want you to be aware that you should like probably talk to her

59:20Ronnie Karam: maybe she's just looking at her like you poor poor lost thing poor thing i'm sorry but you know like if every person in the situation hates you it might be you that's hateable and maybe you should just fix yourself and be less of a disgusting human being and i mean that with Oh, kindness, you awful, disgusting girl. All right. Hugs. And she had the Kelly Ben Simone gummy bear face of like.

59:55Ronnie Karam: She did. That's so funny. And it's like, well, I mean, like, it's so hard to take accountability when, like, nobody comes to me about the situations. But they have. They have come to you. Maybe you can take accountability now. I'll let you just sit here and think about accountability. All right. Good shit. Good shit.

1:00:17Ronnie Karam: This is when she's like, no one has ever spoken to me this way in my life. I mean, to have somebody tell me I'm a bad person and that I'm the problem, that's beyond her fault. How am I supposed to feel? She goes and cries in the bathroom. And I love that she's like, this doesn't happen on bigger boats. okay they're nicer to you on the carnival cruise line that you normally work i guess well welcome to welcome to yachting like no seriously i'm like is she on like bezos's yacht or zuckerberg's like i would love to see like is she on that yacht that leonardo dicaprio visits every year like when he like it's it's summer uh yacht season like i would love to like her see her in a paparazzi shot on one of these big boats like i just wonder how much she's lying about her experience yeah i think it's like a disney cruise or a carnival cruise or something she's like the buffet lady at one of those so um now jen goes and calls her mom which i just feel bad for this mom she really talk about someone who has to keep up a positive attitude jen calls her yet again for the 20th time and the mom is still so positive she's like honey well you have to respect people and then maybe they'll respect you back this was such a good talk you sweet sweet girl Do you think they hang up and the mom just takes the phone And starts beating the character with it Like oh Like because she's getting a break from her daughter In the physical by having her this far away And then to be reminded vocally About that your daughter's still your daughter Has got to be wild And I would imagine it's a great release for that mom To watch this season because she realizes Like she's been gaslit maybe into thinking that Jen's perfect and the mom's the problem And then she gets to see she's like oh Everybody's had this experience with her yeah and you know the mom is one of those nature versus nurse nurture people she's like oh it's nature it is nature do not blame me for this shit it's definitely nature yeah it's like the bumper sticker on her car nature nature over nurture so um now nathan is just in the in the crew mess with his sunglasses on inside such a douchebag i hate this fucking guy so he's sitting there and he's like, yeah, well, guess what?

1:02:35Ronnie Karam: The deck looked like shit today. You didn't do good, Joe. And he's like, ooh, ooh, ooh. I'm going to breathe deeply because I'm getting very upset.

1:02:49You almost killed a passenger, Joe.

1:02:53Ronnie Karam: I know, but Nathan crashed a boat. I don't want to hear it from either one of them. So now Jen pivots because she's kind of been told by Aisha So now she goes straight back to Kat. She's like, I just want you to know, thank you so much for holding me accountable. Because right now, Aisha was being horrible to me. And all I was telling her was how much I liked you. And she was like, oh my god, you're a horrible person. So I really stood up for you. And I just want you to know that you're holding me accountable. Dude, she is the Michael Jordan of not taking accountability. I was like, that is brilliant.

1:03:28To go back to Kat after that's how it started. And to butter Kat up. I'm like, that is so like the levels of sociopathy involved in that is just in. I thought it was one of my favorite parts of the episode. Yeah.

1:03:42Ronnie Karam: And she seems to believe herself. Yeah. But psychopaths are like that. They they're so convincing and it makes us think that they really believe it. But I think she fully knows what she's doing because later on when they go out to dinner, she says something nice. She's like, this is the most amazing summer of my life. And then in the talking head, she's like, listen, you gotta, you gotta butter them up any way you can. Like, she realizes what she's doing. Yeah, she's, she's kind of just a creep, I think, at this point. And Kat's like, okay, well, you're welcome. Like, I really do like you, Jen.

1:04:17Ronnie Karam: Like, you're, like, so great. She's like, yeah, thanks for the accountability. Besties. So then we get a wacky, Aisha's gonna babysit the baby. It's going to be crazy. The tips, the salon meeting, they make$23 ,000. $23 ,500.

1:04:42Ronnie Karam: And Marcy's like, that spaghetti lady, the lady with spaghetti and gave us that much? Wow. How much would we get if she didn't break a shoulder? Marcy's really fitting in. I thought he was going to be like a sore thumb, but he's really thrown him. So he did the striptease. He was on Watch What Happens Live after this episode. He's like fully ingratiated himself immediately. Yeah, he's good on this show. I'm really liking him. Nathan and Joe hate each other. And Nathan's sitting there when Captain Sandy's giving them critiques, like rubbing his lip like, oh, I hope this is a good one. I'm going to really get a good one.

1:05:17Ronnie Karam: What if I'm giving a raise? Another raise? And Joe's pissed. So let's see. Let's go to – what do we do now? Now I'm just fast forwarding through a lot of. Yeah, no, then it's like the. Gail's scared to be around Joe because of the situation, right? Yes. So Asia is saying, yeah, you know, well, Asia is trained how to take care of the baby. And she's like, right. Asia, this is where you put the the baby bottle. It's a hot water thing. It's like maybe I'll touch it. It's like, don't do that. It's hot water. Silly.

1:05:59Ronnie Karam: and she'd just still leave your baby you know i think that's how you should parent are you leaving your baby with randos no i mean i think we would we just i mean we're pretty we're in the hills so it's hard to get here i think but we would be up for leaving our baby with randos but it is because asia was that one like you know i don't want the baby to say asia as her first word we did we were talking about taylor frankie paul from secret lives or mormon wise the other day and i was like oh my god we've got to really be careful of the words we you know it's like could you imagine her saying like jacks taylor is her first word like how insane like the things that we say she's gonna pick up on our baby's first words were don't do it britney i don't know where she got that it was rotten hell um so nathan and gail are talking about how gail's kind of nervous to see joe and it's going to be so stressful but it's also stressful because nathan comes home every day and calls her all day every day saying what a monster joe is and that joe attacked gail that night out and was saying all this bad stuff against gail which he really didn't he just said well i don't get along with gail and that's why nathan doesn't like he's like you better keep her name out of your mouth or we're gonna have real trouble bro shut your mouth yeah so it's uncomfortable we get to the dinner and um they're like wow um everybody oh well joe and nathan and gail are all sat right together first of all that's the first thing of course and cooper's like sorry but i'm gonna share an appetizer so i can't sit over there so he's like ah so he sits there and then he just turns away from nathan gail and faces away from but that was pretty funny and then they were like okay well why doesn't everybody why don't we go around and everybody say their favorite thing from the season and jen takes over and she's like um honestly like oh wow you guys are like so hilarious like each of you like individually it makes me lol every day you are like so hilarious every one of you each of you are my best friend so thank you thank you guys

1:08:14i love how creeped out everybody is by this

1:08:19Ronnie Karam: kaylee smile was the best she's like and this is when she says yeah i mean earlier in the day i was like should i leave the boat no i'm gonna kill him with kindness

1:08:35Ronnie Karam: so now um gail is being really friendly and warm to everybody because that's how she is and Joe is like has annoyed face and Nathan has is staring at Joe the whole time like I'm gonna fucking kill him I'm gonna fucking kill him if it does one thing I don't like the way he's eating his steak so then Gail goes to the bathroom and she's like oh Nathan this is really uncomfortable and now it's on yeah and then that's when they get in the van ride back and Joe's making out was Kaylee, right? Yeah. Yeah, so they're like kissing, and Gail's like, well, I just want to have a discussion, Joe, because I'm sick of this tension, and I think we should just get past this tension.

1:09:17Ronnie Karam: I just don't like it. He's like, what are you talking about? I'm not even doing anything. She's like, uh-huh, because I stand up for my family, and Nathan is my family. And this whole thing is just so cringy because we know what Nathan did. I know. That's the thing, is that we realize the future, so it kind of ruins this moment completely. But even Joe's like, here we go. Here we go. And Nathan's like, you shut your mouth. You shut your mouth. And so we don't know where it heads. But already we hate Nathan because we know what happens in the future. And it's like a really weird ending to this episode.

1:09:51And it's going to be unsatisfying no matter what happens next week.

1:09:55Ronnie Karam: Yeah. He's a fucking child that he can't just be like, hello, Gail. I'm sorry that there's ever been any awkwardness. Good to see you at dinner. That's it. Why can't you just do that? you know especially when you've got nathan there giving you the eye like i'm gonna get him meet up meet up picket fucking blinders whatever like blowing up cars behind him as he walks poser little asshole so i mean nathan will never be on a boat again he'll never be able to work into this capacity again like i'm so curious where they're gonna find this guy or like i don't know enough about like when you skip out on a warrant or a couple of warrants overseas do they let people just like disappear into the night like are they actively looking for nathan like i'm so curious i don't know i mean i would imagine if there's a warrant out you're on some kind of a list but i don't know i don't i have no idea but i fucking hate that guy and i hope they get him i do think he'll work on a boat again though i just don't think he'll be on tv well he'll have to be undocumented though right because isn't it part of like the licensing thing of like who you higher on a boat like that i don't know but they've had some guys with some pretty shady backgrounds on these boats um i mean they haven't been this bad this is this is beyond shady this is yeah disgusting and criminal i don't i don't really know but i hate him and i can't wait for this season to be wrapped up although spoiler alert it looks like we get joe for next season oh yeah we get joe we get chef joy and we get coop so that will be interesting and we get the cast of summer house so that's like i'm curious if like joe hooks up with sierra or something crazy like that yeah well time will tell this has been so much fun ryan i love spending thank you so much i really appreciate you even asking me and and listeners i hope it was okay we miss ben we love ben good luck with the tin fish and uh as always thank you tin fish yeah tin fish forever yeah thank you find ryan on instagram at it's so bad it's good with ryan bailey and his podcast is so bad it's good with ryan bailey everywhere you get your podcasts we love you buddy thanks for being here thanks man we'll talk to you guys next time bye watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors ain't no thing like alison king our way is the amber way it's the foster and the furious it's amanda foster it's always automatic with ashley auto put your hands together for carly clap.

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