#3554 Next Gen NYC S2E014 Part Two: Secret Tingles with Kara Berry

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2:27Ronnie Karam: spot and so she had to take an uber and then she was like why didn't you just come get me and he's like you don't understand i was trying to get us a spot at this club and they were like well did you get into the club and he's like yeah it turns out i just have to be with a gorgeous influencer so they really need it this poor guy um i lost my question but i i like them i i do think that there's like an end game with that with shy and ava yeah i was surprised because i thought the vibe she was giving was like oh he likes me clearly but whatever it's shy ah and then it turns out she did like him yeah i think she's waiting for him to like continue to make a consistent effort and he's like oh i don't know why he's not picking up on that yeah because it's I guess he's just never had a girlfriend before, you know.

3:22And what was I going to say?

3:24Ronnie Karam: The cast really doesn't seem to like Shy. Why do you think the cast doesn't like him? So, okay. I think, like, if you want to, like, imagine in your mind a world on Vanderpump Rules in which Katie and Schwartz were never together. I feel like Katie is Gia. Like, I'm working. I'm trying to do this thing. And I'm a professional. and then here's this like guy just like hey what's i don't know what's going on and i don't know what's happening but i'm here and he keeps like failing upwards even though i really like shy i can see why from gia's mind she's like you were a plus one of a plus one why are you on season two i'm here to work and you're here to like flop around i think she finds that really aggravating but it's not justified.

4:13Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I think that's a good point. I think that they, I think the Bravo Nepo babies look at him like, this is like, we earned it because we've been on TV before, but who are you? Yeah. It's like Shai walked on a set accidentally and they're like, you know what? Put a mic pack on him. And Jane's like, oh, I've been working years for this. Yeah. I was on TV since I was like, so. So now we move on to Hudson. Hudson's going to be coming out soon. And they're like, oh, my God, Hudson's coming. Hudson's coming. It's so funny how everyone acts like Hudson's a big deal. Hudson is just some little rich kid.

4:57Ronnie Karam: Like, what is everybody afraid of Hudson about? It's hilarious. And they keep coming to Hudson. It's like he's waiting backstage at boxing. They're like, you ready? He's like, yeah. Somebody's squirting water into his mouth. Yes. Andy Cohen. Guess who's joining us on stage? Hudson. Hello, Hudson. All right. The most important question out of the way. Have you made it back into the group chat? He's like, yeah. And the person who let him back into the group chat was Ariana in the first place. Good for him. Kind of, but don't have me take somebody off of group chat because of you and then put somebody else back on the group chat.

5:42True. Yeah, don't have Riley do your bidding next time. He's got to go.

5:48Ronnie Karam: Do it yourself. Although Riley did love it. She's like, I loved every second of it. She did. She really did. so now we see ariana and hudson stories and um uh baldy from more more wants to know why you went back to atlanta after you and ariana broke up you didn't even make an ever to keep ariana and he's like well i started a business like i was starting a car company okay it was like a lambo company but then you know we hit a couple bumps in the road and someone's like no pun intended because my Lambo blew up and Andy, who clearly doesn't even watch his show, is like, what? Yeah, the Lambo blew up.

6:30Ronnie Karam: And, you know, then I, is this where he said he went to rehab too or something? He went back to rehab? No. No, this is, it goes, they ask Liam about when he started being interested in Ariana. Oh, he's like, immediately, immediately. That's what you do. I showed up to set. I saw my leading lady and I said, a bam. Hey, ma 'am, would you like to do the same dance I'm doing, but backwards? Fred Astaire. It's a Fred Astaire reference. You'd get it. You'd get it. If you're an actor.

7:07Ronnie Karam: So Ariana's saying she basically wasn't ready because it was so quick. And Liam seemed like such an honest person and he made her a closet. And so why not date him? But what happened off camera that made you so confident of how you were feeling about her, Liam? And he's like, well, we talked about a lot of things I don't think people talk about in the first week, you know, namely having my children,

7:31Ronnie Karam: house building a home for us in the woods that we would live in that she would never leave. I would just leave and bring back wood to chop. You know, stuff like that, Andy. It was pretty deep. Her dog walking schedule. Yeah.

7:47Ronnie Karam: um riley said that she warned ariana you just got out of relationship etc and uh andy asked charlie do you think hudson not coming to bravo con was an opening for you and he's like uh i don't know if it was uh bravo con specifically but i mean like it's overall demeanor i mean look at him like he doesn't do anything it's like if you if a girl breaks up with you you should like make an effort he made no effort so i'll do you know it's like i'm i'm going to show it's like if one door dash delivery persons cancels ding another delivery dash driver gets the notification they show up they pick up the pizza that's just kind of how it works look at the guy fucking loser can't even get a decent haircut this is what i mean like he thinks everything is on his terms like he's created these arbitrary rules that hudson has to abide by to get his girlfriend back and if you're not going to do it I'm going to fuck her I had no choice yeah I tried to help you out bro but you didn't want to play by my rules yeah exactly it's like but I was in the office and when I opened the fridge there was a sandwich in the fridge and if you wanted the sandwich why'd you put it in the fridge that's not what you do with sandwiches you know she's that guy yeah he's so wild like and he says it like this is normal this is not what people do you don't I'm never going to like look at somebody who I'm friends with who broke up with their partner and be like okay well time's a ticking and if you don't come back then my hand is forced and so is my vagina yeah and Charlie's like hey well I understand I just I mean I was constantly constantly telling you like bro like you're gonna lose your girl you got to come back and he's like no you were telling me to get a party bus and pull up with a bunch of bitches to a scene like i didn't need to do that to make her jealous that's what i would have done

9:50Ronnie Karam: that is such charlie advice too and he's like yeah uh uh attorneys listen to that this is charlie admitting to rounding women up like he did at that torture house going to brandy melville and finding women to go back to the townhouse that's what he was doing that's what people were saying right that he was going to the store and like finding young women and being like i'm in reality tv want to come over yeah they're like who's this 28 year old unk leave us alone sir yeah so gross he's weird seriously and andy's like well i shouldn't say bitches on tv i've learned that's disrespectful so you think if she saw him with a party bus full of skanks and they're like whoa whoa andy we don't say skanks he's like oh okay so i didn't say that i said bitches we're using the respectable term here andy bitches god boomer okay so g is like yeah but that's snanky charlie and he's like well he didn't take my advice what am i supposed to do okay what am i supposed to you lost a girl like what am i supposed to just not make out with somebody.

11:08I don't know why he's acting like it is ridiculous for anybody to think that he's been trying to hook up with Ariana this whole time when that's literally what he said season one. Why do you guys think that?

11:20Ronnie Karam: Yeah, exactly. And Ariana's like, it just shows your morals and your character. And he's like, I just wanted him to do something. Okay, my God, I'm sorry. You're not feeling good. Get a bus full of bitches. It's like. What would your advice have been? And I say this as the host of everyone's business but mine. Leave them alone. I'm sorry. It's like the best advice I could come up with. You guys try giving better advice. What would you guys do?

11:52Ronnie Karam: So, Charlie's. So, Liam is like, dude, you just wanted him to do that for your own entertainment. Because then he would get a bus full of girls. And, you know, then he'd make himself look stupid. And you'd think that was funny. And he's like, yeah. of course and Charlie's like well you should do something you should do something like what'd you do nothing you went you went you blew up Lambos in another town fucking weirdo loser of course people took your girlfriend he's like I was also in rehab I also went back into drug addiction and Charlie's like oh wow okay sorry I can't handle your drugs either

12:31yeah he's like well i get you were in rehab but i was calling you being like bro you're about to lose your girl to me so do something i'm not going to tell you it's me but you're out you are

12:44Ronnie Karam: so you're in rehab what so that stops you from leaving a building to come get your come get your woman i mean come on it literally it literally does whatever loser so um andy's asked i wouldn't have had sex with his girlfriend i why what's not clicking with you people yeah um but of course charlie also said to the straight to the camera like i don't really like hudson just leading him on because i'm gonna steal his fucking girlfriend or whatever he was saying on camera so hudson's mad and then charlie's like what are you mad about god she's diabolical truly andy asked ariana um how deep the connection with hudson is um you know was he there for her what was she there for him when he was in rehab and she's like yeah because like we're a family and like i'm always there to help him and take care of him and andy's like well must have been like spinning plates i mean you had him charlie leo i mean there was a lot going on ariana she was like but wait wait i would i you said dating and i was not dating Liam.

13:49Ronnie Karam: I just want to clarify that. And he's like, okay, hanging out? She's like, I was not his girlfriend because I'm not a cheater. And he's like, okay, sorry. You were a skank that was hanging out with a non-bitch. Okay? Did I get that right, kids?

14:06I don't get these rules of dating at all. I feel like we're all just saying words. Dating now means that you're boyfriend and girlfriend. But that's not what it was. I'm so lost. everybody changes shit everybody has a different answer and that's it's not that's their right

14:25Ronnie Karam: you know yeah like every generation comes out with like a new thing right but dating used to be much more intense it was like oh okay you were seeing each other then you're dating then your boyfriend and girlfriend then you're divorced then you get married then you get i don't know There used to be like a certain order. It wasn't that. The talking stage, I think, is what threw a wrench into everything. Now we're all akimbo. All the rules are thrown out the window because we're talking. And nobody knows what talking means. Yeah. I don't know what it means in this regard. Because if we went by their language, I'd be fucking everybody.

15:10Ronnie Karam: Like, that's all I do is talk. Exactly. I don't know how it works. And Andy's so confused. He's like, okay, so hanging out. So what were you doing with Liam at the time? You weren't dating, but you were what? You were what? And Char's like, hooking up. That's the right face. Yeah. Banging. And she's like, yeah, I wouldn't classify that as hooking up. And Liam said, getting to know each other. Okay, yeah. Like things were intense so quickly and it was like communication was there. Okay, well, why is that not dating? Can someone explain to me? isn't dating what happens before your boyfriend and girlfriend she's like no dating is when you are boyfriend and girlfriend and liam goes welcome to new york andy excuse me andy has been living here longer than you've been alive sir literally welcome to new york so wild so i still don't understand what they're saying i think that if ariana is with a guy that came over and built the closet and then he's like i feel really serious with you i haven't felt this for a long time and then she says yeah i haven't felt like this about anybody and i i will come meet your family and you're my dream that has been manifested i manifested you and then you see pretty much only each other i think you're dating and you're saying i only kiss one man at a time you're the only person i'm kissing even though that wasn't true um like what else is he supposed to think yeah i was confused by this whole thing i mean where i come from if a man shows up and builds my closet i'm locking the door and i'm keeping him in here and then he's gonna be like but i work for angie and i'm paid by the hour and yeah we're not dating and i'll be like we are we're talking to each other we're dating we're married and we're in a relationship you're my boyfriend before those little packets of screws even come out of the box yes keep that l wrench in your hand yeah and call me daddy it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial fx's american horror story returns for an unrivaled 13th installment with the iconic horrors you'd love to fear and an all-star cast reprising fan favorite roles light your candles draw your pentagrams and prepare for Supreme Surprise, FX's American Horror Story 13 premieres September 24th on FX and Hulu.

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19:35Ronnie Karam: Like, you're funny, you're smart, and you give off the impression that you're a good person. So I fell for it. What can I say? Who would you go for between Hudson, Charlie, and Liam? um Hudson Charlie and Liam like if you Liam's the cutest I think Liam's the cutest yeah um Charlie is probably the most entertaining I could talk the most shit with and I mean Hudson's just rich as hell so yeah he was very I don't know it depends yeah and he seems nice all of these men across is kind of a douche yeah all of these men are too short for me personally, but I'm happy for them. I like a short king. Like I, I'm not one of those with like a tall preference.

20:26Ronnie Karam: I'm more of like a job. Like how tall is your job?

20:32Ronnie Karam: If we put hours in a day on a scale of height, like how high would your scale go? Like, do you work a lot of hours? Cause that would be great. Exactly. I'm looking for someone 10 hours Right. Right.

20:48Ronnie Karam: Who do you think? How would you rate them? Like if I'm going back to like being Ariana's age, 24, I think it would be Liam. I think I would have issues with Charlie immediately and I would not find him entertaining. I think he'd probably do a racism to me. So that would count him out. So Liam. Yes. Yeah. You were thinking of other things. That's a big enough one for sure. Yeah. I think, you know, he's, I think he's the type of person who's mean to his partner to get attention. You know, like he's mean and they cry and he's like, yeah, well, they must like me because they're crying. Right. And I can't walk a guy through his early 20s leather pants phase.

21:34Like that's something that you, that's a journey you go on your own. That's a single man behavior.

21:40Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I agree. That's rough. And then also just like sweaty butt. It's like, but you were wearing leather pants. You know, I just don't want to deal with that. I don't want to have to teach you. Yeah. But Liam would never shut up. Oh, my God. And I would never feel like Liam really loved me because he's just in love with the idea of being in love. He seems like. Yeah. I am wary of men who wear rings like that, like chunky rings like Luke. Luke from Summer House. Luke is very similar to Liam. They've got a lot in common with the whole, oh, look at me. I chop wood. I chop wood and I make jewelry.

22:22Ronnie Karam: And he's trying to say like, I do this and I do that and I do this and I do that. It's like, but what are you, what are you good at? You know? Right. Right. Liam is going to make jewelry one day. I see it. He'll make jewelry. Yeah. I think it's a hot guy thing where they feel guilty just being hot. and so they have to come up with all these other things that makes them more you know worthy yeah and you don't really need more than that like you were given the gift of being hot just run with it i say the blow torch down and live your life yeah no one needs your badly chopped wood okay we can buy it at the grocery store so liam is pretty good i think about this He's like, look, you know, it didn't work out with Ariana.

23:09Ronnie Karam: Still like her. Whatever. I wish the best for her. She has the right to do whatever she wants. And Andy's trying to make it like, well, but she did make you think that you were dating or married or pregnant. And he's like, well, whatever. She could. Good for her. Yeah. Yeah. So he's not giving much. I do feel like this is the most tactical part of Liam is the like trying to be like, yeah, I'm totally fine. She's on a journey. She's a young woman. go explore your life go explore manhattan this i'm like no you want to be with her not the truth yeah yeah and so now the questioning is like well did him saying i love you too fast make you run to charlie and she's like um i don't want to say it made me run to charlie i mean we don't call it running right now and he is 2026 okay did it make you walk to charlie she's like well um i was i was just like freaked out because i have emotions and it was moving quick and i was like oh my god i don't deserve this it's not right and like i just and so she starts crying which is fine like i get it but um i wanted her from the end of the episode of the last one where she's like he manipulated me with jesus and i'm gonna let him have it and then she shows up here and doesn't say anything for two hours and then when she does say something she's like it's okay yeah i feel like the trailer for the reunion was a bit of a fake out because when she was crying and being like it's just gross i thought she was talking about charlie not to herself that was just depressing it is depressing and with knowing everything well knowing some things that are going on in her life yeah you know and i don't know how much of that was going on at this time or how much she was privy to or how much trouble she knew that you know her family was in and that yeah i mean i think not going home for the holidays was probably a big sign that we didn't know until we knew what we knew yeah and you've got her trash mother who's over there trying to get money off of her all the time and then you've got that divorce going on which was horrible you know all this the police being called all the time and you know all that stuff and so i think she has had a rough go at it so i get it um yeah i just was i i feel like i was promised something at the end of the episode and i didn't really get that so i was ultimately mad i was like god damn it yeah no i agree i would have appreciated a little bit more back and forth a little bit more aggression out of Ariana.

25:42Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but she cries and everyone's like, I'm really sorry. And Charlie apologizes. And now it's between Hudson and Charlie. And Charlie, you said you wouldn't sacrifice the friendship to do anything with Ariana. Was that a lie? And he's like, no, like, I guess in hindsight, maybe I shouldn't have said that. But like, I didn't foresee a world in which Ariana and I connected the way that we ended up connecting. So, you know, I don't feel like I would Hudson anything. And like, you know, like his motives for being my friend at the time have since come out as a little bit less than genuine than I thought.

26:14Ronnie Karam: Because Hudson was also saying, like, I'm not really friends with Charlie, but I'm going to trick Charlie by being his friend so that when he hits on Ariana, he'll be caught in a trap. Which never really made any sense. i i feel like once again charlie's like slithering out of something um to now be the victim when again he has been trying to plot and steam this entire time to hook up with ariana he knows what he was doing and i i just to be like i and actually i've been betrayed in all of this is so laughable yeah yeah i think he's right that he didn't really have to not go after somebody's girlfriend that was their ex i think he had the right to do it but he's still an asshole for doing it i guess some frustrating things he was ariana yeah yeah if ariana had told charlie season one let's go to the bathroom right now i hudson's like taking a shot and he's like working on his pants he'd be like let's do it and he would have done the heartbeat so i don't know why he's And like, this is not a fact.

27:23He absolutely would have done that. And yeah, he's a clown.

27:29Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So Hudson's like, well, you said you wanted to fuck her and you were pretending to be my friend. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't even want any of that until BravoCon. So you can't even get mad at me because I was filmed at a different time. And he's like, oh, OK. so then um charlie pulled uh hudson aside to say that there would be a narrative about him and ariana flirting and you didn't take it seriously hudson he's like no i mean i thought it was complete bullshit i mean my family owns a fried chicken conglomerate so

28:04obviously she was gonna stay loyal to me have you seen her chick-fil-a rewards they're out

28:09Ronnie Karam: of control she has a golden ticket card to get pre-fried chicken wherever she wants so hudson's kind of mad but charlie keeps out talking everybody like basically charlie kind of looks right even though we know he's not right but he's like what yeah and hudson's just left they're kind of blank blinking yeah uh so then it's the liam thing because charlie kissed liam and um so ariana had to call liam and say this happened you're gonna find out and he's like yeah you know fuck me up i got it wrong hudson told liam thank you yeah yes and liam's like why are you calling me bro yes thank you and he's like yeah i thought that was a little awkward to get that call from Hudson.

29:03Ronnie Karam: Hudson's like, whoa, yeah, yeah, I'm really sorry I did that. That was insane on my end. It was embarrassing, but I get it. He was trying to seek community and be like, we get it, right? And Liam's like, no, we are not a we. It was my number. Yeah. So Ariana's like, well, you know, the conversation started, would I never date you? And you were kind of making jokes, like laughing about it. And then we ended up kissing. And Charlie's like, I mean, like, look, here's the story. We made out of my place. That's it. And he walked the dogs. That's it. That's the story. Okay. Back off. Do we think it's just making out?

29:46Ronnie Karam: I don't know, because I think there must've been Coke over there or something that everybody wants to go to Charlie's at two in the morning. I've never heard anybody at two in the morning. And I've been a partier, you know, for a very long time. And no one at two in the morning has been like, you know what? We need to go to the person's house with marijuana. Certainly not in New York where there's a dispenser in every corner. Yeah. And it's two in the morning. Like who needs that? You know, I think that's usually a cokey thing. Or you want to hook up. Like I'm not going over to a guy's house at two o 'clock in the morning unless we're doing something.

30:23Ronnie Karam: Yeah. But they use those terms on this show, like kissing. Like they'll only let themselves go to certain places. And who even knows what they mean by kissing or making out. Maybe that means something totally different now that we don't know. What hearts are we kissing? I don't know. Yeah, we don't know. So Ariana's like, hand on the Bible. And I'm suddenly an extremely religious person in the past few episodes. A good Christian woman. yeah this stuff kind of makes me crazy when she starts her whole like this is not how a woman of god would act with her pink bible come on it's so funny it's so funny but it's so silly bless her she's finding her way bless her heart bless her heart she's like it's my i was an example of somebody who's a woman of god and you know it's an example of somebody who's gross i'm like you're not gross you're not gross ariana you're great no like stop beating yourself up you are a woman of god and she's like i don't need anybody to judge me because i do it all by myself

31:35ariana don't do that don't beat yourself up i would appreciate more seeing more of like ariana and riley's relationship because she's riley keeps having to be like i've talked to ariana about this I talked to Ariana about that. I feel like the way the show played out, you would almost think that like Riley had no idea about this whole Charlie thing. But it seems like she did basically the whole time.

31:57Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Yeah. Riley's pretty quiet in this one. I think Riley's a little gun shy because she got in so much trouble on the Internet. Like the Internet went really crazy on her for having one bad episode. I mean, my God. Right. And I think she came back like, what? I'm sorry. Yeah. I agree. Yeah, I agree. Commercials. Here comes one right now. Losing weight can be like trying to roll a wheelbarrow up a hill. You can do it, but it's so much better and easier with support. Noom combines GLP-1s to kickstart your weight loss with healthy habits to help you keep it off, even if you stop the meds. Noom helps you lose more weight.

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34:45Ronnie Karam: Hero Bread is offering 10 % off your order. Go to hero.co and use code CRAPPINS at checkout. That's code CRAPPINS at H-E-R-O dot C-O. So it's a lot of, you know, Ariana's crying and stuff. You've grown so much, Ariana. look at how far you've come. Like before you were a girl named Ariana. And now you're a girl named Ariana with a pink Bible. Like you're huge now. She's like, thanks guys. Thanks. And Ava's telling Charlie, come on, Charlie, say something nice. He's like, but like, I'm the reason she's upset. Like, what do I even say? That's stupid. What am I supposed to say? Okay. Ariana, I just want to say, I would suggest you get a van full of bitches.

35:35i mean i guess we had like a real connection or whatever so sorry my bad yeah and she's like well

35:43Ronnie Karam: obviously the show ends with me telling you i'm gonna eat you up and spit you out and chew you out but you know like obviously you texted me since then and um like a part of it did feel that it was all some part of a big game that you'd been playing for so long and andy's like Like, you felt played. Yeah, that's what I meant when I said it was like a game. It's like, oh, okay. So that's still English. Charlie's like, yeah, like that genuinely like hurts me to know that you would feel like it was some sort of a game. Because like what I was doing was I was like playing a game, you know? I've been strategically planning for over a year to hook up with you, but I'm so sorry that you caught on to that.

36:25Ronnie Karam: So how did it end? And Charlie's like, well, I don't want to, like, say anything because it's, like, private. But, like, you know, I don't want to expose any more details than Ariana's comfortable with. So, like, I respect her privacy totally, 100%. I'm a gentleman and I'm not going to. So what happened, Ariana? She's like, well, we went to the Bahamas. It was, like, a petty argument and some things were said that were not kind. And Charlie's like, yeah. And emotions were had. And I would never, ever say what she said to me because it's just not. It's not right. It's not my place to say it. All right, we're going to go on break.

37:00Ronnie Karam: She said that I made her pussy tingle. It's like, Charlie. This is the other thing that irks my soul. Like, he always is like, there's a big bomb out there, and I don't want to be the bad person by making her look bad. But there's something. But I don't want to say it. But maybe you should. This is, like, really explosive information that's going to make Ariana look awful. But I don't want to say it because I'm a good guy. but I am going to say that something happened and make it sound really explosive and vague so that she sounds like a bad person even though I don't want to make her seem like a bad guy because I'm a good one yeah okay time for a bathroom break yeah she said that I made her pussy tingle guys like oh jeez Charlie God Ava having to be like you know you're still mic'd up oh yeah that's wow I totally forgot that if I just didn't whisper that they would keep listening to me oh oh right right whoops so they go through ariana's timeline she was she hooked up with uh charlie in the bahamas and then something happened we don't know what and then she was with hudson for a minute and then things flared up with her and charlie they're trying to figure out this whole timeline meanwhile um liam we find out liam wasn't in the Bahamas and also Georgia wasn't invited to the Bahamas yeah yeah I would love to know more of the timeline too because if you said you were done with Charlie why were y 'all hunching in the Bahamas again she won't answer anything in a real way yeah which kind of makes me crazy and I really like her and I do think she's a sweet girl and stuff and I like her on the show but I can't with this if you're gonna do it like you're coming onto this show you're clearly making storylines Like, I'm just a single girl in the city.

38:53Ronnie Karam: And you're having to, which is her right, by the way. Date whoever you want. Date as many as you want. You're single. But she's kind of enjoying the storyline part of it. But then when she's questioning about anything later, she's just going to literally cry and clutch her Bible. And I'm sorry. Not accepted as ma 'am. Yeah. Yeah. We can't be singing, Lord, I lift your name on high every time we're called to the carpet, babe. Let's tell the truth. Yeah. You have to answer something. But also, like, to your point, totally fine. go out there and spread them like mention it all do what you ought to do girl nobody cares we're rooting for you yeah and you don't owe anybody an apology you were single if you were dating liam kind of and you wanted to make out with charlie that is your right to do that so i would kind of like to see her grab that power instead of being like i'm a sinner that shit makes me crazy so um she finally does find something to say to charlie and she's like i didn't appreciate the way you spoke about me in the season when you said how many times you can get away with grabbing my ass and he's like whoa whoa whoa but I said that to you over text though so like I'm like disrespectful behind your back and to your face and she's like yeah but that's different if you're like writing any text but saying it behind my back is worse he's like oh okay sorry no that's totally valid I get that that's valid yes valid you have feelings I get it I'm a gentleman she's like yeah i felt like just an object and i was like oh my god i'm a woman of god and he's like valid valid valid valid it's the holy trinity valid it's valid it's the it's the valid the sun valid and the holy valid she's like well thank you that should be his new tattoo just valid across his stomach valid uh so he wants a friend hug from her at break and uh she's like no and this is where He's like, yeah, she said I made her pussy say tingle.

40:50Ronnie Karam: And he was like, oh, Jesus. OK, now we move on to Georgia. And Georgia did a vulture interview. And she said nobody in this cast would get into any party that she threw. And do you consider how that's going to land when the group reads that stuff? And it's like, honestly, I don't. Because, like, what I was, like, trying to say is, like, I'm, like, a party planner. and like the things you know the places that i throw plate parties out like they have dress codes so like it's like different kind of it's like counterintuitive dressing everybody's really counterintuitive at my events so that's really what i meant like okay you wear your shoes on your hands literally was about to say

41:37people put pantyhose over their head it's like a whole thing ariana wouldn't get it that's what i meant you wear underwear as overwear it's like really confusing and it's like so much to explain to people to be fair i can't imagine georgia hosting a party that gia would want to go to what she really means is like i wouldn't host anything that anybody would want to go to on this cast no i think she meant like i'm a badass and i have

42:07Ronnie Karam: cool parties and they're all nerds. But what she should have said is that no one would want to go anyway, babe. Gia's not standing in line for Club Club. Yeah. And Andy's like, do you feel like you're part of the group? Because the audience loves you, but the group hates you. So how do you feel about that? It's like, yeah, like, I mean, like, I'm just not invited places. Like, I can't go to the Bahamas if I'm not invited. So, like, I don't know what I'm supposed to do about that. And it turns out the Bahamas trip was a Charlie trip. and so of course she didn't get to come and Ava's like yeah but I can attest that I was the one who was like should we call Georgia and then they were like no we hate Georgia so like you know I tried what was I supposed to do like betray all of my friends I did what I could I'm sorry that you didn't get the invite yeah and Georgia says well before season two we were really good friends and you expressed a lot of anxiety because you felt like everyone was against you and we'd been hanging out.

43:10Ronnie Karam: And so I remember always telling you, I got your back no matter what, which was true. That's a Georgia thing too, is that you've got my back no matter what, Georgia and Charlie. And then she's big on loyalty. But Georgia has every right to be like upset about this because they, well, I don't know. Their friendship wasn't really all that authentic. Like it cleared to me when they filmed that scene that they had made a pact with each other to remain on this show and also go against Charlie. And Ava lost Hook, broke up with Captain Hook and went right into Charlie's arms. I don't know. It's like, how upset could Georgia be?

43:47Because they really weren't friends like that anyway. But she did mess up the pack that they had. That's clear.

43:53Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I think it was one of those, we're on this show together. It's us against the world because you know they'll come for us or whatever. And Ava's like, yeah, but now people like me. so yeah exactly it's very like okay i'm gonna hang out with the loser because i don't think i really have the cachet but as soon as i can get out of here i'm leaving you girl and she did yeah and um so ava's like sorry i hurt your feelings but like accusing me of hanging out with omar is weird charlie invited me to one drink and i showed up and omar was there so it's not like i was hanging out with them i just hung out with them she's like okay like i'm sorry try to stop being obsessed with me maybe how about that stop talking about me georgia

44:38Ronnie Karam: okay well we've covered a lot today i want to take this opportunity to make sure everyone said what they needed to say everybody everybody got their yeah yeah yeah yeah and it basically ends with riley and georgia what is the status of your cat skills peace treaty they still want peace and And Shai and Brooks, are you going to possibly collab in clothing in your future? I mean, Shai is super talented, but if he wants to talk to me, he needs to go through my agent. Seth Marks. Seth Marks. What do you want to talk about today, Shai? Granny clothes? Shai, you are the CEO of Granny Panties Limited.

45:22Ronnie Karam: You are an icon.

45:27Ronnie Karam: and that brings us to the end of next gen season two who do you want to see back everybody i think everybody except for charlie um i think there need to be additions in the form of like more friends from riley i think maybe just bring amari angela oakley's uh daughter and just have her come film for a month. Because I think Riley wants to be in this group and I think she wants to continue filming. I think she just doesn't feel safe emotionally. And I think that causes her to crash out, especially with Georgia. But I think a season three would be really good for Riley. I just think she needs a friend.

46:13Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I think that was a good testing ground where they had the scene with Riley and a couple of friends. I think that was a nice audition scene. So yeah, hopefully they do that. I would like them all back. I think that if they bring Rowan back, they need to bring Rowan's evil sister on because I thought that brought Rowan's whole story to life. But other than that, she doesn't do that much. But yeah, enjoyable show. Thanks for being here for the end of it with me. Thank you for having me. This was a pleasure as always. So much fun. Everybody go find Cara Berry. You can find her, Cara B. Grams on Instagram and also the podcast, Everyone's Business But Mine, wherever you get your podcast.

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