#3564 Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip S509 Part One: Leave No Bluestone Unturned

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2:11Ben Mandelker: What happens when there's so much that happens? It's so funny. What happens when there's so much that happens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker. Joining me here is the one and only Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? Hello. What's going on with you? Not much. We just got back from a whirlwind weekend in the Midwest. We were at Kansas City. We were in Kansas City, and we were also up in Chicago to kick off our In The Mix tour, which was so fun.

2:56Ben Mandelker: Thanks to everyone who came out to see us. It was great seeing all your faces again. We haven't been on tour in a moment. It was tremendous. If you want to get tickets to see us at a future date, go to WatchForCrappens.com. Next week, we go to Minneapolis and to Detroit. Two amazing, wonderful cities. And you guys always bring it. So come join us for that. We will have our next week. We'll decide what we're going to cover at those cities. But if they're anything like Kansas City and Chicago, it's going to be a great, great time. So thanks again for everyone who came out. You know, another thing that's so funny.

3:31Ben Mandelker: By the way, Ronnie just put out a new newsletter that's on our Patreon. It's at patreon.com slash watchfulcrappens. We have crappy hour tonight. If you listen to this in time, that's going to be at 530 West Coast time. You won't. You won't. This will not be at the time.

3:44Ronnie Karam: It was already 330 West Coast time. We just walked in from the airport. The airport.

3:48Ben Mandelker: Yeah. We got on the plane. We flew across the country. And now we're on the microphones. You know, it was so funny that we, I totally meant to bring up the Kansas City show, but I didn't. But I have to say to anyone who watched our interview on the local news, we actually went onto the local news in Kansas City. And it was so hilariously awkward because we were both on it, but for some reason Ron - I was gonna say we didn't both go on there.

4:13Ronnie Karam: Yeah, we were both on the Zoom,

4:15Ben Mandelker: but like Ronnie's feed did not get sent in. And we both thought that this was a pre-roll. We didn't realize we're on live television. And so they're asking questions. And so, you know, normally when Ron and I do press, we sort of like sort of informally trade on and off with questions more or less. and so the anchor who was lovely asked me a question i responded and then she asked another question and so i don't say anything because it's like and ronnie starts to respond and you get like maybe a sentence out and then she just starts talking over you and i was like oh wow and then happened a few times then you started talking over her and i was like something's going on here and then it turns out she didn't even she couldn't hear you so what and it was on live tv and you weren't even on the tv or see you so what happened was anyone who was watching this broadcast was watching me on screen with her and she asked a question and i just stared at her and smiled so she's like yeah i mean the city is crazy with taylor swift mania isn't that right and i just smiled at her like man i'm just yeah on my end like making jokes and i would like credit

5:17Ronnie Karam: for the amount of work that i will put into making somebody laugh at the same joke like if she she didn't respond so i was like i'm gonna give her the same damn joke 10 times in a row and I was over here by the third time I said the same thing I'm like doing flaps like tap dancing over here and Ben was like I don't think you can hear her she said oh god I thought it was my questions she thought we were like dissing her up she thought she was like insulting

5:41Ben Mandelker: me or something she thought like if I didn't like the question I was just gonna stare and smile and just like not respond so it was so awkward but for me it was like a normal zoom because I could see you and you had a really your joke was funny it was about the cookies you're like well our goal was to have a cookie made out of us and um but she couldn't so she just thought i was still involving her and probably everyone at home just thought i was doing that and it was i am like mortified in retrospect but it's also the

6:06Ronnie Karam: funniest shit of all time so and she was a sweetheart but i felt so bad for you ronnie

6:13Ben Mandelker: because then you just you were just stuck on the sidelines and it's not fair so you know

6:18Ronnie Karam: whatever i mean i thought it was funny and it was very very us to just have the most awkward news interview of all time and then to try and get people to come to our show thankfully people came to our show anyway i know it was live for you i wasn't on the screen you were the one just sitting there in the silence thinking that this was being filled while she's staring at the camera like uh is anybody going

6:45Ben Mandelker: to answer my question well i almost said well it's okay because this is all we'll just you can edit this out right and like i had and then i got this feeling like wait a second we're live because the thing is then our segment ended and so we thought it was like a i think i thought the entire thing was pre-tape and then the segment ended and it was like clear that we were actually on live television because then they cut to like a a press conference for the kansas city chiefs and then we just were sitting there watching a press conference and we're like they gave us a

7:16Ronnie Karam: time to come on and they're like well the traffic around the you know kansas city circle let me tell you what they're doing at the power and light district today there's a band playing and someone made sweaters in their neighborhood and became very popular and then it's like and now some just ben staring at a camera awkwardly alone ben ben answering precisely every other question

7:37Ben Mandelker: and the other one's just staring at the anchor like she's crazy yeah and then when we were done

7:44Ronnie Karam: it was like and now the kansas city chiefs and then this straight guy gets up there he's like

7:49Ben Mandelker: football football maroon maroon we love maroon taylor swift we just sort of went away it was hilarious but thank you for having us really truly always when in doubt um taylor so together speaking of superstars we are here today to talk about a bunch of superstars it is the real house wives ultimate girls trip season five episode nine bluestone manners it's the season finale of Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip. The show has come to its epic conclusion and more Housewives than you can ever imagine under one roof. And so where we left off was that everyone was mad at Luann and Giselle had just said something like, well, if you think I'm going kind on Luann now, it's a long ride, so buckle up.

8:40Ben Mandelker: And so I was like all getting ready for Giselle to lay into Luann. And I just want to say, she never does. She's just like, no, we love you, Luann. We just think that sometimes you're too active or something like that. I was like, Giselle, that was a false tease.

8:54Ronnie Karam: Well, it's really hard to lay into Luann as well because she's just such a mess. And she believes her own hype so deeply that you just – it looks like they felt like, oh, my God, we're really hurting Luann by calling her a narcissist. And Portia really tried to stick with it. She's like, no, Luanne, you are making us very upset because you're mean to us. How dare you? I levitated. I knew so much of that show. I mean, the show was great. Did you see the magic show? I mean, I gave a speech. You know how long I've been writing that diary and giving me a speech? You know what? What were you? Two or two or three?

9:29Ronnie Karam: Oh, it hurt me. And at some point, you're just like, well, maybe she is the victim. I don't know.

9:36Ben Mandelker: Yeah, but Portia's like, but is it not mean when you scream at me in the microphone? Okay, well, you know what? I'm not gonna be bullied one thing that I will do is I will levitate above all these allegations and Giselle's like who is bullying you Well, I'm hurt. I'm hurt and very sensitive about last night because I wanted it to be great Oh listen, I floated about 18 inches above a platform. Isn't that amazing? You can't even let me have that

10:04Ronnie Karam: Don't call out buzzwords like bullying Luann I Want a different word no buzzwords

10:12Ben Mandelker: you have a great vocabulary and french put them together fine you bullied me well okay

10:20Ronnie Karam: so just sounds like bullying is french who even started bullying french people have you ever heard of a book called this is why french women don't get fat or whatever the that was it's the original bullying right i mean people being mean to you for gaining three pounds while sit there and eat croissants all day i mean for real why do you think it was so easy for me to

10:43Ben Mandelker: levitate so that way i could look down on you even easier lee more easily yeah bullying root word french blay calling people that aren't even fat fat for eating too many calories because i live

10:57Ronnie Karam: in america okay there's bullying for you bullying well i feel like we have enabled some annoying

11:04Ben Mandelker: behavior. See, America? Look at the way I just laid right into her. Well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I did not realize this is how you guys felt at all. I don't know. Things just change when you're just a very little bit higher than everyone else. So, you know what? It's not my intention to all you terrestrial people. And I'm just having so much fun with you girls. Just, you know, I've never levitated with people I've enjoyed more. So just for me, I just feel like I really, I didn't understand what you were telling me partially because I was so high up in the sky from levitating but hearing from you all now now that I'm back on the ground I love you and I will pay more attention and I will check myself before I wreck myself upon falling down again from levitating because you can only wreck yourself if you're up in the sky

11:50Ronnie Karam: Jesus Christ why is your apology two hours the apology is even two hours

12:00Ronnie Karam: um luann knows she's not gonna win this so she just she's like sorry then they're like okay that's all we need i can't believe giselle wasn't talking on her microphone you know i know like porsche's bringing up the microphone like you were using your microphone as a weapon why didn't giselle bring out her microphone like luann here we are in the band let's talk about your bullying use of the French word bullying with a microphone. So, uh, Portia, you know, everyone basically forgives Luann because what are you going to do? And now you're going to be stuck in the car with her for four hours. So you've got this option.

12:37Ronnie Karam: You can keep making Luann cry and listen to her squeal and cry about how she was bullied, or you can make up with Luann and then just listen to her sing songs for the next four hours, which is more painful.

12:50Ben Mandelker: Exactly. so they are everything's like nice now and when you know louis like well sometimes i just need to be told what's up you need to check me and portia's like yeah yeah we'll check you look we're always gonna reel you in we're she's like i'm not saying you're annoying me 24 7 just there sometimes and those are the moments we're gonna like reel you back in all right all right am i the best

13:13Ronnie Karam: listener no even luann's confessionals interrupting okay i'm not the best listener okay you know why i'm a storyteller basically okay i'm a storyteller and sometimes you got to check yourself before you wreck yourself did i already say that probably heard who cares i'm gonna write it in my diary Write that down, Billy.

13:37Ben Mandelker: Did you ever hear this story? Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. I am sitting in a diner thinking about Sonia Morgan. Why doesn't she call me? And then I look up at the reflection, and there's Sonia Morgan on the sidewalk, hitching up her skirt, and as she fixes her hair, I turn and sign an autograph. Great story, storyteller.

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17:05Ronnie Karam: Now it's 7.06 PM. They're all stuck in traffic. I don't know why human beings are constantly surprised that we're stuck in traffic. I'm guilty of it. I just did it on the way here from LA. That's traffic. What do you think? The world is overpopulated. Everybody just keeps having children. They don't care. Nobody cares. We're all just stuck in traffic. Let's stop being shocked by it every day. Leave 10 hours early.

17:30Ben Mandelker: I can't tell if Bravo is going to send more casts up the New York Thruway in the middle of winter or fewer. because they literally are going through the same thing that Next Gen New York City did when they tried to go upstate to the Catskills. And it's basically the same route. You just go up north, except for Great Barrington. I think you just make a right. You go east over to Massachusetts. But in both shows, you have these vans that have been assaulted with snow and take hours and hours and hours to get up there. And it does kind of look like torture. I mean, they are in there for a long time.

18:07Ben Mandelker: Luckily, they can all talk and in some cases sing, but still, it's a lot.

18:10Ronnie Karam: And if you think about it, every single one of them is stuck in a Sprinter van with like eight other Real Housewives.

18:17Ben Mandelker: Yeah.

18:18Ronnie Karam: And you never think you're the annoying one, you know? They're probably like, oh, God, here I'm stuck in this van with eight goddamn housewives when you're Vicky and you're the most annoying person on the planet. But, you know, I feel for each one of them because it's not easy for anybody.

18:32Ben Mandelker: And you can really see the difference between being a Real Housewife on Bravo versus being on Next Gen New York City. because in next-gen New York City, they were all just crammed into the backseat of a compact SUV. And here, they're on a Sprinter van. They at least have room to move their legs around. So they are there. I mean, it's really a long time they're in that van. And it's in the snow. They're driving slowly. And Vicky's like, I'm not talking anymore. I'm like, I'm going to do the quiet game. I can't do this anymore. I've hit a wall. I've hit a wall. I've hit a wall. Well, Vicky, well, I'm glad that makes two of us, at least.

19:03Ben Mandelker: Okay, it's nice to not be alone in the battle anymore.

19:07Ronnie Karam: wait a minute let me look and see how long it's gonna take now blink blink blink wait it says offline it says offline now i can't see how long it's gonna take so they're going up and uh they're

19:20Ben Mandelker: you know they're talking they're talking about who's gonna come to the party who's it gonna be at least they're asking if anyone's coming from salt lake city and lisa's like i'm not sure i

19:28Ronnie Karam: don't know how to like them and teresa's like it's okay because i'm gonna stick with you so Don't worry about it. And Lisa is like. That's my favorite New Jersey rule that you have to be on the side of whoever you were in the car with on the way to the party. That's just the rule. Teresa and Dolores are the biggest rule keepers of that one. Dolores is like, we wrote together. That's it. I don't care if she's wrong. You're a cut fitness for coming for her. All right. You ready to go?

19:57Ben Mandelker: I just want to go. It's true. It's like a blood oath. so Lisa is like really upset that her cast members will be there and she's like it's like why are you still showing up just like when you think there's like nothing left to fight about they make something out of nothing like origami that's exactly what I think of with origami

20:16Ronnie Karam: she's really on a crafting she really is really on a crafting role a crafting role today and I love every crafting comment she makes because later she's like oh my god the color's like glitter it's like the herpes of the craft world i've mentioned that to you 10 times already and i was thinking about that to somebody today on the plane i was like that person is glitter the herpes of the craft world i think she even just said herpes of it's the herpes of

20:47Ben Mandelker: craft which i thought was even i love that it's just just she's succinctly called it just craft um yeah no she really is she is her mind really is on lots of um crafting things the fact that she makes an origami joke and a glitter joke she's like oh my god i can't even be with my cast they just all they want to do is they just want to like punch me out i feel like i'm literally a piece of paper that's going into a hole punch that's what i'm doing right now

21:16Ronnie Karam: i mean what am i what am i clay that someone's making into pottery it's just like artistic habits she's into right now.

21:24Ben Mandelker: I feel like I'm literally like a pipe cleaner, just like getting stuck in me in all different directions.

21:31Ronnie Karam: Yeah, you can literally do 20 crafts with that one. Just run with it. It's pipe cleaners. Pipe cleaners are only sold for crafts.

21:41Ben Mandelker: God, I love a pipe cleaner.

21:43Ronnie Karam: I do too.

21:44Ben Mandelker: They're so fun. I think of the craft world, that may be my favorite building block of something. My favorite material. I think my favorite material is the pipe cleaner because it's bendy, but it's strong. It does what you need it to do. It's colorful. And, um, it's just, I don't like getting poked. That's the worst when you get poked, but you always feel like it did it by accident. Like you, I already feel like I'm hearing an apology from the pipe cleaner. Whereas other things I don't feel like I hear an apology from like glitter. I actually don't feel like I get an apology. I feel like glitter just goes everywhere and thinks it's, it's right.

22:16Ben Mandelker: sort of like what Lisa says. But pipe cleaners, I think, they're like our friends.

22:21Ronnie Karam: They are, but they shouldn't be actually used for cleaning pipes because when I was a big stoner, I used pipe cleaners to clean out the gunk in my pipes. And I was having craft night with my nieces, and they were very young. And one of them got black stuff all over her hands.

22:38Ben Mandelker: You reuse the pipe cleaner for your crafting after you cleaned it? Girl, I'm not wasting.

22:43Ronnie Karam: Potheads do not waste the pipe cleaner. You can always be out of pipe cleaners. And they're rummaging around there for shit to find. And she got black resin all over her fingers and was like, Uncle, this smells. Why is it so sticky? And I was like, oh, sorry.

22:58Ben Mandelker: Why do pipe cleaners remind me of Joan Cusack? I feel like they're like the Joan Cusack of the craft world in the best possible way.

23:08Ronnie Karam: Why do I feel like we've said this? Why do I feel like we've gone down this path before? Joan Cusack is a pipe cleaner. it sounds like why would we have but i feel like we have she's kind of zany but she's very talented

23:21Ben Mandelker: and beloved you know and you're like where are the pipe cleaners like why haven't i seen pipe

23:26Ronnie Karam: cleaners around lately with just like you feel like with joan cusack you know yeah where's she

23:31Ben Mandelker: been where's her oscar um just because i don't smoke weed anymore on craft night doesn't mean

23:37Ronnie Karam: i don't want joan crawford around i mean joan cusack around both joan crawford you know that's

23:43Ben Mandelker: different i think really all the jones i don't think there's by the way i don't think there's a single joan actress that we wouldn't embrace joan joan allen joan crawford oh yeah john cusack

23:54Ronnie Karam: joan rivers joan just another man i mean she joan actresses name but she was still great am i right guys yeah guys so

24:07Ben Mandelker: some of us remember when she was on the that show on upn with um tate eggs some of us some of us remember joan before she was joan remember that show kevin something or other no i'll just don't

24:22Ronnie Karam: worry about me i'm just over here no i don't i don't i don't remember that one um so then we go they're still they're in this van forever they're in this van longer than we're talking about joan Cusack being a pipe cleaner. And now Lisa's got a really good idea. You guys, you guys, you know what? We need to go to Wendy's. Let's go to Wendy's. I love Wendy's. When everyone's tired and hungry, there's only one situation. Wendy's, let's go order the Lisa Barlow. I'm so relatable.

24:56Ben Mandelker: This all makes sense now because there was like a push like a week ago or two weeks ago for Lisa Barlow's meal at Wendy's. And it was a whole thing. Wendy's emailed us. They said they were going to send us something. They never did. Boo. But this Lisa Barlow-Wendy's thing, now I get it because she has this whole scene. But quite frankly, I'm totally in support of it because this is a total authentic Lisa Barlow moment. And so I love that. This was Lisa Barlow. She finally got to truly shine on the show. Everyone else has got to... Like Luann got to do cabaret. Kyle got to wear a hat. You know, everyone got to do the thing that they're good at.

25:37Ben Mandelker: You know, Vicky got to show like life insurance. But like Lisa's like, guys, let me show you my expertise. And she went in and she came out with all these bags of Wendy's. And she was legitimately so excited. And she talked to such authority about all of them. And she was like bartering. She's like, okay, I'm going to trade like a Frosty for like McNuggets. Well, it wouldn't be McNuggets, but you know, the equivalent of. I was so happy for her.

26:02Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And, you know, it's natural influencing. Like, it's nice to see when people get to advertise things that they actually really like, you know? Like any kind of carb. Like if I get to do any kind of carb. But all the housewives are really always trying to get influencing deals. And she's just getting them from, you know, only feeding her children fast food because she doesn't like to cook things. You know, she never got an asparagus thing because she clearly hated asparagus. That time she tried to cook it for her family. She's like, look, I cook. When I'm not at the upstairs, I make things for my family.

26:35Ronnie Karam: And this is disgusting. Please never do this again. Okay, back to Wendy's and Kit Kats. And boom.

26:41Ben Mandelker: See, it all happened.

26:43Ronnie Karam: It's been happening for a while because at the Bravo Con from two years ago or three years ago, she had a Wendy's booth. It was like, come see Lisa Barlow at the Wendy's booth. and then there were like 200 people gathered and she's like, hi, you know what? I love Wendy's. Everyone's like, oh my God, it's the best day I've ever seen my dad. It's like the best show that anybody saw at BravoCon. She's just like, wow, you know what? Fried chicken nuggets, am I right? Yes, I love this song.

27:13Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's so natural that like, even if this entire moment was planned and was like, okay, we're gonna have like Lisa take them to Wendy's, it felt totally authentic. That just shows how natural.

27:27Ronnie Karam: If I ever got an influencing deal for lying down, nobody would ever question it. They'd be like, yeah, you know what? I'm going to lie down too because it's just coming so natural to him.

27:36Ben Mandelker: Look at him. Is this now the time when we should mention that we have an influencing deal with the Pipe Cleaners Association of America? God, we love those pipe cleaners.

27:48Ronnie Karam: Okay. Someone's going to get mad. Now they are talking about how much travel it's been. This has been such a crazy trip with all the ladies. And now they go to the Red Line Inn where Dorinda famously used to work back in the day. And it is also famously not really remodeled or anything. It's one of those places in the Northeast that's like super proud of being like old and dusty. Yeah. And they walk in and they're like, oh, wow, it's so old and dusty. and they had the whole town there. There was like the whole town to greet them. They're like, oh my God, it's the housewives. The two gays in town were there insisting on carrying everybody's luggage and not leaving their rooms.

28:30Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I think that people gathered at like 7 p.m. because the hotel manager clearly was like, hey, just so you know, a whole bunch of housewives are coming through tonight. If you hang around, they're going to be here. And then they told their friends, but they all were waiting so long that enough people were able just to sort of accumulate. And they just were waiting and waiting and waiting and playing like Stratego and like Checkers in the lobby. And then finally they walk in and like the ovation that the crowd gave the women was partially to say, wow, you made it through all the weather, but also like, and now we can finally go to sleep.

29:04Ben Mandelker: Thank you for showing up.

29:05Ronnie Karam: Nobody wants to be up here till 11 or whatever the fuck it is here for you guys. Geez. The best reactions to me were Giselle and Portia just looking at all looking at the hotel first of all and trying not to diss the hotel because you know everybody i think expects something glamorous you're on this trend they come into this hotel and they're like oh and portia goes who are these people they're happy to see are these real people are these ghost people are these shining people and vicky was so funny because she's like i just

29:41Ben Mandelker: want to go to bed she's like i've been stuck in this van next to luann for hours and now i have to be on and have to be like a celebrity she's like thank you for waiting thank you everyone thank you okay i need to go i need to go thank you everyone thank you thank you she's like holding me early this is like a lot okay i just want to go to bed i want to wash my face i want to have like a glass of wine and play like the quiet game with myself okay like i just want a shot of tequila i just want to go night night and i can't i want to put lotions on my face just

30:06Ronnie Karam: multiple lotions. Just want to go to my bed, put lotions on my face. So this local gay is like, do you need help with your luggage? Luann, Luann, Luann, first choice Luann. Can I carry your back? She's like, no. No, I've been stuck under this one before. I've ended up in the wrong hotel room. Fucking somebody ended up in a cop car, punched a cop out and told him I'm going to kill him. I don't think he was a gay, but what the fuck do I know? I don't even know the wrong. Vicky wants it. Vicky, take the gay. oh god oh god and vicky probably is not approached by many gays and this guy didn't approach her

30:40Ben Mandelker: either he just kind of got stuck with the runoff housewife and he poured her in a storm apparently so then um so he winds up with her and then luan's like well the red line in is very famous in the berkshires dorinda used to work there as a kid and it's very well known to be haunted Maybe the girls will have a visit from a really hot ghost. I mean, my door is open. What ghost wouldn't want to fuck a levitating cabaret star? Come on, spookiness.

31:13Ronnie Karam: So they walk into the rooms and people are like, oh, wow, this is nice. What a nice room. The superfan guy goes to Vicky's room and he's like, oh, my God, come on. Here you are, redlining. It's your room, Vicky. It's like, okay, so, okay, you can leave now. Thank you. Thank you, homosexual. I don't believe in your rights. Get out of my room. Get out of my room. Wait, you don't work here? Yeah, I don't want you in this room. I don't want you in this country. Okay? Call Jesus. Call Jesus. Okay? Guard your butthole and call Jesus. Buttholes are exit only. There! I said it! Get out!

31:47Ben Mandelker: Yeah, but he was crossing a line. I mean, she's like, so you're just a strange man. You don't work. You're just a strange man that's coming to my room. He's like, yeah, yeah, I am. I'm just nice. Luanne told me to take your back. Okay, but who are you? I didn't know if you worked here. He's like, no, no, I don't work here. I'm just going to linger in your room. I'm just your friendly new gay digital assistant. I'm not even real. I'm a hologram. Anything you need, I'm here for you.

32:13Ronnie Karam: Okay. I don't know that I need a homosexual body. I don't know. Does this work in this room? He's like, really? I'm a gay person and I'm stuck in Vicki Gunfleson's room. Okay? you think this is my dream all right let's just let this let's just let this unfurl okay bitch

32:32Ben Mandelker: she's like well i just i just met you the first time you just like followed me to my room i mean you look like you're like you're a doctor so yeah um thank you very much thank you thank you thank

32:38Ronnie Karam: you thank you for coming so many followers after i post these stories of being in your room okay you know how many people are going to turn against me the least you could do is offer me one of your

32:48Ben Mandelker: chocolates uh okay goodbye goodbye goodbye vicky just like lays down on the bed and then he finally And he's like, I guess I'll go. That's crazy. Like, you should just, like, drops up there. I don't know. He's probably also drunk. He's waiting in that lobby a long time.

33:06Ronnie Karam: I mean, it's crazy. And, you know, I think it is our duty as gays to say, gays, stop it. Stop it. But we're also saying this from a place of being those gays. Because, you know, we would be like, oh, my God. Love this room. Love this room. So are we friends now? We've got some clips to show you.

33:26Ben Mandelker: We're best friends now.

33:29Ronnie Karam: Yeah.

33:30Ben Mandelker: Then there's like a wacky moment. Yeah, I know we love it. And especially me. Like, look, you put me near someone who's famous, even like marginally famous. And I'm like, hello. You know, it's like, hey, this person appeared in a commercial for butter. I was like, really? Wow. Are we friends now? Guys, I'm friends with the person in the butter commercial. I can't help it. It's just the way I. Did you see the famous guy on our plane?

33:52Ronnie Karam: of course i don't remember his name i'm gonna have to look him up he's a character actor um he had kind of like longish this is why i shouldn't have brought it up because i'm really this old person you remember that guy from that thing was he in first i don't know yeah he was in first but he went back to your bathroom oh um there was there was someone in

34:14Ben Mandelker: first that looked vaguely familiar but i didn't recognize him maybe that was you have to look up who the character actor is now.

34:20Ronnie Karam: I have to know. What am I supposed to say? That guy from something at some point who didn't go to the first class bathroom and came to use our bathrooms? Like it's not bad enough that we all have to sit and coach all the time. You guys have your own, go poop in your own first class fancy bathroom.

34:35Ben Mandelker: I was seated at the bathroom. I saw almost every person who went in, but I mean, I did get distracted, so I must have missed the marginally famous person that I could have become best friends with.

34:45Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I thought surely Ben is going to know that guy's name because I'm never going to be able to pick out anybody's name. You don't ever want me on your side in any kind of game show. I don't remember anything or anybody. But I thought Ben is going to see this guy, and Ben's going to be like, did you see that guy from that character actor who dated Monica one time on Friends? Ugh.

35:05Ben Mandelker: I wish. I wish I had really... I really wish I had turned on my famed AR this morning. I'm so good at that on an airplane. I'm so good. I just wasn't in that headspace.

35:16Ronnie Karam: Disappointed.

35:17Ben Mandelker: I just wasn't there. Yeah.

35:20Ronnie Karam: And I knew it was famous because I just happened to look, you know, because you watch people as they go to the restroom. As they walk down the aisle and you think, you have to go to the bathroom on an airplane. Loser. And then he, like, looked at me and then kind of, like, went like that with his face. I was like, you're not that famous. I don't even know your name. Stop hiding your face. Like, I'm trying to get something from you.

35:41Ben Mandelker: You should give him the eyes. Yeah. Like, really? You think you're famous? Last time I checked, you were using our bathroom. If you were really famous, you'd be flying private. Bye. I'll tell you who's famous. Coach.

35:53Ronnie Karam: The coach section.

35:55Ben Mandelker: You're coming to our bathroom now. Craig T. Nelson was on the flight.

35:59Ronnie Karam: There are more of us than there are of you, first class.

36:05Ben Mandelker: One credit to American Airlines. American Airlines was really on my shit list after they fucked up my connection to Kansas City on Friday. But I have to say, their snack game is pretty strong because they have Tate's Cookies as a snack now. And I've got to say, that is a big.

36:27Ronnie Karam: So she said, I thought the options were impressive, but I didn't hear the first one. And I didn't hear the first one. I didn't want to ask her. I don't want to be that guy. She was in no mood. That's how this famous person is. But yeah, she was not having it. And I could tell. But she was like, do you want blah, blah, blah, blah? Or goldfish? Or sweet and salty? and I was like, well, what's the sweet and salty? I don't know what that is. Like, what's in it? But I didn't want to ask her because she didn't seem like she was going to love it.

36:50Ben Mandelker: She was in no mood.

36:51Ronnie Karam: So I just said goldfish because I knew what they were.

36:53Ben Mandelker: That's too bad. The first option was Tate's cookies and I took some. And then I asked, I was like, can I get a second one? Normally, I always put on my like a charm with a flight attendant. I was like, is it possible to maybe get like a second one? And they're normally like, okay. And she was like, um, I'll have to circle back to you on that one. It's pretty low. I was like, bitch. But she, um, another person, across the aisle was like she's like um taste cookies goldfish or sweet and salty and the person goes i'll have the pretzel she goes not an option taste cookies goldfish pretzel i mean and sweet and salty the way she went not an option it was like lindsey hubbard it was like if you had lindsey hubbard as your flight attendant coming down with snacks like not an option i said taste cookies goldfish or sweet and salty and i resented her just saying sweet and salty what the fuck with sweet and salty.

37:42Ronnie Karam: What is that? And you're asking me to ask you a question. What does sweet and salty mean? Sweet and salty? I like sweet and salty, but you have to be more specific. Is it gummy bears and, you know, peanuts with salt? Like, what is it? I don't know,

37:55Ben Mandelker: but I did not appreciate the vagaries.

37:57Ronnie Karam: I didn't either. Well, the goldfish are delicious, though.

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41:17Ronnie Karam: So anyway, Vicky kicks this gay out of her room, and then we see a producer tricking, Portia's talked a producer into tricking Kyle, who's scared by everything. and they're under their bed and grab Kyle's ankle. Five minutes of hilarity.

41:34Ben Mandelker: What do we do without Kyle on this show? Yeah. That was funny. So everyone's getting ready now for the day up there in Great Barrington. And Giselle's FaceTiming her daughter which is fun. And then Teresa's FaceTiming Melania which was sort of... It was, you know, obviously there's other things going on in the world of Teresa and Melania. So Melania's like, oh my God, you're like a literal queen. It was like, actually, it was sweet knowing that the challenges they're having now. And then we go back to Giselle and Giselle's like, I do want to show you what I'm wearing at the door. Can I show you?

42:17Ben Mandelker: And she's like, what? Like, what are you doing? Where are you going to? She's like, well, have you ever seen that show, The Gilded Age? She's like, weren't you on that? which I don't even I haven't been able to figure out what Adora thought what show it was is that like Love Hotel or what did you think Giselle was on?

42:36Ronnie Karam: I don't know if that show was funny she's like weren't you on that mom? no I wasn't on the Gilded Age Teresa's like the Gilded Age today I don't know what that was like what 1926 1826 1997 I don't know The Gilded Age. I mean, I like SNL.

42:57Ben Mandelker: Like, that's Gilda Radner. That's not the Gilded Age. Oh.

43:01Ronnie Karam: Teresa. What year is it now? Are we in the Gilded Age now? It's like, what is it, 2021? No, Teresa. 2000? No, Teresa. So then we go to Lisa, who's FaceTiming with John. He's like, I just wanted to let you know I'm really sorry about how I treated you last year when I said, please, Lisa, please, for once in your life, listen to me. It's okay, John. I really appreciate the apology again. You know, it's really good. We got to go to Vicky's today. I mean, I'm sorry, not Vicky's. God, that chicken would be disgusting. We went to Wendy's today. It was amazing.

43:40Ben Mandelker: And then we see Vicky, and she's like, I don't even know what the Gilded Age is. Like, I know nothing. I think it's like the old times, like back in the day, like whatever it was. Like, I don't know, like 1900s, like 20 hundreds. Like, I don't know. I wasn't alive at the Gilded Age. So like, I don't know anything about it, which is great. I love that. That's Vicky's mindset.

43:55Ronnie Karam: Like every part of the Gilded Age is when the chicken nuggets. That was so good. Sir Nugget.

44:04Ben Mandelker: Like, why do we even care about the Gilded Age? Like, we don't have gills. Okay, we've got lungs. Like, what about the lunged age? Like, I don't get it. Like, what?

44:15Ronnie Karam: The girls start gathering. Giselle, Lou, and Kyle are gossiping in their room. and um they're talking about how much they're gonna miss each other and lisa is telling portia in a different room like oh my god it's been such a good job like everybody's so nice like nobody's bullying me it's amazing like i don't understand why people on my cast are even still coming on this show to bully me you're on a real housewives show that every housewife is on that's why they're coming like that lisa's shocked that anybody is coming to a housewives reunion show yep yeah i

44:49Ben Mandelker: I know it's like you're at a show that's celebrating the best of the best of 20 years of Housewives and you got the golden ticket to be on it. And Heather is the queen bee of your show and she wasn't picked. And you're damn sure she's going to go and whip the cast against you out of jealousy. Of course that's what's going to happen.

45:12Ronnie Karam: Yeah, unlike Vicky, someone's doing their job. They're showing up and they're making you cry. Do I love it? No. but you know they're doing what they're paid to do. So then we go over to Bluestone Manor and Lou comes to help Dorinda and Dorinda has tons of helpers there. It's going to be a huge Dorinda party and she's like, oh my God, look at you coming into the back door. I haven't said that since I was married.

45:41Ben Mandelker: And I love that she's like, oh hey Lou, I was just going to make a quick ham sandwich. You want a sandwich?

45:48Ronnie Karam: I don't know why that like was so funny.

45:52Ben Mandelker: Like, because there's like an entire staff in there that Bravo has brought in to cater this whole thing. And, and just Dorinda just making a little sandwich and she's like, you want some, you want a ham sandwich? And it was just like, it's what I'd love about Dorinda is that she is actually so giving. And like, that's, there's something very maternal about like, Oh, I was making a ham sandwich. You want a ham sandwich too? And I just like, love that about her. And also just the idea of offering Luanne a ham sandwich. You just know Luanne's like, a ham, ham. I don't even know what that is. A ham sandwich.

46:24Ronnie Karam: I have had bologna back when I was in prison. They threw one in my face. Got a little mustard on it. It was worth it. It was worth it for the story. It was worth it for the cabaret.

46:34Ben Mandelker: Will the sandwich be able to reach? What are you talking about? My mouth, I'll be levitating. Can you make the sandwich levitate as well? Otherwise I'll pass.

46:42Ronnie Karam: Do you have levitating ham? Otherwise, sorry. Can't really help you there.

46:50Ronnie Karam: So now we see hits from the Berserk Shears. You know, all the clips that have happened over the years. One of the funniest ones, Muzdorita has all these Halloween decorations and she's got that like terrified, like dead zombie woman, like eating off her own hand and the frightened remote passing it going, is that Bethany?

47:10Ben Mandelker: It was like Bethany crying. it's just like such a fast quick drive-by read it's like a classic to this day so um drinda's like wow god you know for like two days now i got people here we're going upstairs okay let's go upstairs here makeup okay so what's going on well i'm gonna go upstairs i hope my dress fits you know not that i've gained any weight or anything it's just that you know when you start floating things fit differently you know you gotta account for air coming in etc you understand how it is oh you never levitated apologies yeah you were so sad last time i talked to you when the

47:49Ronnie Karam: girls were being mean to themselves a lot of we got with the goose and you know when you were driving with the girls in the spinny van oh well you know i forgave them i realized love is love you know what are you gonna do all right let's get on with it turn this like uh i thought i thought you were traumatized i made you have a sandwich you don't need a sandwich come on i said to you facetiming

48:14Ben Mandelker: me for an hour and a half to sleep complaining about this girls and you come up here and say everything's fine what's the heck so um now it's the evening everyone's getting into their cars and um they are gonna start shuttling housewives over i don't even know how they did this production because there's like a lot of real housewives coming to this house are there enough hotel rooms in Great Barrington to support all these people coming in? I mean, I know it's a tourist destination, but still.

48:39Ronnie Karam: I felt bad for the other housewives because the top-tier housewives, like the regular cast members, were staying at the Red Lion Inn. Where the hell was everybody else staying? God bless their heart. And no offense, Red Lion Inn.

48:54Ben Mandelker: Yeah, but like some Marriott, like 45 minutes away or something. I just feel like the carpet's not clean.

49:01Ronnie Karam: I've stayed in enough hotels that I know that that carpet's not very clean. That's it.

49:05Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Yeah. So Kyle's like, oh my God, black eyes. Oh no. I had to wear tights under my dress. Like, this is when I realized I'm from LA. Am I right, guys? And Portia's like, yeah, I'm from Atlanta. We risk it all for the look, honey. Oh yeah, like me too, totally. Like, I totally do that too. Like, I'm actually like very cool. I'm like, cool. Yeah, I don't mind black eyes. I'm totally cool. I'm Kyle.

49:26Ronnie Karam: Kyle always forgets her plot lines. She's like, oh my God, I can't handle the cold. Kyle, don't you remember that you're like super glamorous and you're always in Aspen and you have a house in Aspen? Everybody asks me.

49:38Ben Mandelker: That's true.

49:41Ronnie Karam: So Lisa is recording on her phone. She's like, oh, my God. Hi, everybody. I'm on our way to celebrate the start of Wendy's in the Gilded Age. I'm here with Teresa. She's like, oh, my God. Hi, everybody.

49:59Ben Mandelker: Yeah, we're here together. We're having a great time road tripping. And I've been accepted by the big OGs, which makes me more popular than everyone else in my cast. And Vicky's like, do you mind? I have to get off the... I just have to finish this call with American. Just like, shut up. Shut up. Sorry.

50:16Ronnie Karam: So it's the finale. They're all excited. We go back to Bluestone Manor. People start arriving. We see Greg doing this friend. Like, it's showtime. And here they come. Melissa Gorga is first. She's like, wow. This is really a very icy situation. Why don't you all give Melissa another season? Have we learned nothing? If you have learned nothing, then she's going to reteach you with this episode.

50:45Ben Mandelker: And then Marisol's like, well, I'm from Florida. We don't have snow. We don't have snow. I'm like, I would actually beg to disagree. I think you actually have quite a bit of it down in Miami. Know what I'm saying? And then Boz is there. She's like, should I give you my coat? Where's Kitty? And then here comes Heather Gay and Angie Kay and Jaisal and Aaron and Alex McCord and Mary Cosby. And there's Chanel Ayan and Ashley Darby. And oh, my God, it's cold. So cold.

51:16Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Heather Dubrow comes and she's like, well, this is very, very scary. A lady with really short hair just came up to me, breathed something. I don't know, like an espresso martini without the espresso in my face. And I've offered me something called a ham sandwich.

51:39Ben Mandelker: I don't understand. There was something funny about seeing Heather Dubrow in the mix of these women. She is still, I think, at her core. She still is like that drama club kid. Did you pick up on the energy? the drama club club kid who is like not necessarily part of like the popular girls but is like popular in the world of drama club and i don't know like she is so wealthy and she is like so austere on orange county but i feel like in the context of all these other housewives you sort of see her like trying to be like hello i am cool i'm a cool girl i can hang with everyone right and I just thought that was like so funny and also endearing you know what else is funny you

52:21Ronnie Karam: using austere and orange county in the same sentence that's pretty good I mean I will not in orange county but you're austere in orange county you know what I mean I mean it's right

52:33Ben Mandelker: but like I mean the show the show itself well because like it's the trashy show but then Heather comes on and she's like the fancy one she's like oh fancy pants you know and she's the one who's

52:42Ronnie Karam: like scary yeah she's never in but you never see heather like as a guest on other shows you know how they they they'll be like oh look dorinda's visiting london or heather gay is on everything you know they show like different iconic housewives but heather's never on girls trips she's never on stuff like that so yeah it was kind of crazy to see her here yeah and like she's the same with everyone i have to give her credit she walks in and she does look at everybody with those big black intense eyes like hello it's snowing outside isn't that wild yeah because

53:14Ben Mandelker: like on orange county it's like with heather dubrow it's like oh if you're gonna if you're gonna go up against heather dubrow you better get ready you better have all your facts right you better have everything like all your all your ducks in a row get ready because she's about to annihilate you she's got like that final boss energy where she like pretends to be nicey nice but the moment you cross her she like turns pure evil and so it's just funny to see that energy now in the midst of all these other women and i felt like she actually shrank a little bit which i was not expecting at all but um you know maybe she needs to be put on one of these crossover shows and we could really see how she'll how she'll fare i would love that actually you know

53:51Ronnie Karam: i would love to see heather's energy because heather's also reached that point where she's like i am not going to yell at anyone i'm not going to make a scene i'm a lady of real housewives like she's doing that whole thing where it's like i'm a more evolved person now like in this last episode where she's like oh terry let us talk about deep childhood feelings and issues you know okay uh so i would love to see her get riled up by the other housewives from the different shows

54:21Ben Mandelker: yeah it would be it would be good um so yeah people are coming in and saying hello sutton is there sun's there and uh marisol is i guess marisol just got a facelift i think in this room but sudden shrinks anyway she always shrinks yeah she shrinks on her own casts

54:42Ronnie Karam: yeah um so we see all the ladies and carol uh is telling chanel she's like oh yeah this house has been through a lot hopefully they don't make a dramatized version of it it would it would ruin

54:54Ben Mandelker: me it would ruin me forever i a hundred percent forgot that carol named this place bluestone manor i thought it was called that way before i just always thought it was called that and then we see a clip where she's like she's like let's call it bluestone manor

55:14Ronnie Karam: and then ramona going whoa you know what dorinda i named your house called bluestone manor

55:21Ben Mandelker: taking all the credit and then there was something i also forgot about i remember of course when luann tried to light the fireplace and nearly blew up the whole place but uh carol's like yeah we lit a fire in the fireplace but it doesn't actually work and we see that they actually like lit logs on fire and like how that's like so incredibly dangerous to like light logs on fire in a fireplace that doesn't work. They like all could have died. I totally forgot about that. I did too.

55:48Ronnie Karam: You know, it's funny how many moments Carol brings up that's like, do you remember this iconic moment with me, Carol Ratswell, just a girl from New York City? And I was like, no, I don't think 90 % of us did remember this.

56:02Ben Mandelker: But it just shows how much depth there is in these episodes where there's so many big moments that other moments that would have normally been like iconic just get turned into like a little, you know, little detail. A little antidote, as Whitney would say.

56:20Ronnie Karam: So more people come. Kyle's talking to Melissa. And Melissa is - Oh, this is so Kyle. Yeah, this is very Kyle. This is so Kyle. She goes up to Melissa, she's like, oh my God, this dress. I wore this dress to the reunion last year.

56:35Ben Mandelker: I'm sorry, that's a bitchy thing to say. Just be like, oh my God. Or just say like, I have the same dress. Like you don't have to be like, I wore this already on TV and now you're wearing it on TV and arguably one of the most important televised things that's ever been on Bravo. Aren't you embarrassed now? That's basically what she's saying.

56:53Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I mean, I was kind of impressed that Melissa had the same dress, honestly.

56:58Ben Mandelker: Well, she is the owner and operator of Envy Boutique. She's on top of all the trends.

57:04Ronnie Karam: It's like, wait a minute. Why are these sequins not right? Is this a rip off of the dress that I wore to the reunion? I don't know what you're talking about.

57:12Ben Mandelker: Melissa's like, did it air yet? Which is also kind of funny because Kyle's like, yes! Which is great because Melissa's like, I didn't watch it.

57:22Ronnie Karam: Well, she uses Kyle's own weapon against her. You know, like, oh, I don't watch your show, but I mean, is that a girl from your show over there? What? Who's that? What's her name?

57:32Ben Mandelker: Of all the dresses to wear to a 20-year housewives anniversary party, you're wearing one I wore to the reunion last year, the fashion police would have a field day with this. Yeah.

57:46Ronnie Karam: Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one of a two-part recap. For part two, go look for the recap that says part two.

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58:15Ronnie Karam: She's not just a Sheila, she's a Daniela. Itchles. We never miss her call, it's Diane Call. Big yay, it's Emily Gauthier. Erin McNicholas, she don't miss no trick-a-less. Hala Nagila Weber. You'll never hide from Heidi Eleanor Jones. It's no BS, we love Hugo ES. Jamie, she has no last name-y. Sipped some scotch with Jessica Trotch. She's our pal-a-ger, it's Karen Gallagher.

58:40Ben Mandelker: She's our favorite streamer, Caroline Peacock.

58:43Ronnie Karam: Kristen the Piston Anderson. Let's give a kisserino to Lisa Lino. Fresh as a daisy, it's Maisie McHenry. Come again? We're obsessed with Margaret O 'Halloran. Megan Berg, you can't have a burger without the berg. I love-a-ya, Olivia Williamson. She's the lady of the house, it's Rachel Sherouse.

59:02Ben Mandelker: She sure is swell, it's Raquel.

59:04Ronnie Karam: Yes, we canna. It's Savannah.

59:07Ben Mandelker: Cast a spell with Shannon Spellman. Let's share with Sharon Eldridge. Darn Skippy, it's Tippi.

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59:33Ben Mandelker: Who, what, why, where, and Gwen Pentland. Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall. We got our wish, it's Jen Plish. My favorite Murdo, Karen McMurdo. Let's get savage with Laura Wildman. In the study with a candlestick, it's Leslie Peacock. We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder Barron. She's a whiz, it's Liz Sarthy. Always killing it, it's Lola Alkalani. Roger that, it's Marlis Rogers.

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1:00:50Ronnie Karam: There's a lot people don't tell you about owning a home. And for most of us, the questions pile up a lot quicker than the answers. The costs you don't see coming, the decisions you don't feel ready to make. It all leaves you wondering, do you own your home or does it own you? I'm Angie Hicks, co-founder of Angie, and in my new podcast, Own It, I'm talking to the experts for real talk and real tips to understand what homeownership really takes. Tune in wherever you get your podcasts. Still waiting in line? Again? That's time you'll never get back. save time and money with stamps.com over 4 million businesses have skipped the line with stamps.com join them to save up to 90 off carrier rates from your computer or phone right now print postage for

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