#3569 RHONY S16E5 Part Two: Dunce On This Island

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2:15Ben Mandelker: Watch what crap happens. Watch what crap happens. Who cares what happens when there's so much that crap happens? Watch what crap happens. Oh, I mean, don't feed your crap. Who cares what happens when there's so much that crap happens? Hello and welcome to Watch What Crap Ends, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. and without further ado let's get right back into the recap the one that was really in the most dire straits was carol because she's like trying to be a hipster she's like but i brought

2:55Ben Mandelker: socks yeah erica's so excited about this and because she's she's probably saw it on tv she probably saw it on love island is like i want to do that too and by the way also the poor staff has to go out there and set this pool in the water that everyone has to get wet it's just i hate it i hate it yeah erica sells a kind of basic like a basic b from just tv shows that she's watched she's like i love taco bells very like vanderpump rules you know nine years ago or whatever or like we're gonna have this thing in a pool or like i'm so cool like i just shop i just shop online. I'm basic. She's trying to really oversell the basic thing.

3:39She's like Stassi-ing. She's trying to like Stassi. So they, she just, her going around telling everyone they have to eat in the pool is pretty funny because everyone gets like their own little scene. And we get to Jessel and she goes, so Jessel, I think you've got to get rid of your shoes. and she's like rid of my shoes like just don't wear shoes don't wear shoes that's but that's part of my look but i mean they're like plastic so they could be fine they're not plastic they're lucite like lucite a brand name for a clear durable acrylic plastic i love when jessel is disgusted

4:20Ben Mandelker: the look she gets on her face like like she does something with like her upper she like curls her upper lip up she's like and she's sort of like she pushes her head back into her neck and she just looks like she's just horrified scrunches her nose and gives you her teeth like her upper teeth she's like she did it like 10 times this episode it was great by the way i accidentally called carol carolyn she's like oh my god i know that's pretty bad it's pretty bad she went red in the face and And I just said, oh, shit. She's like, oh, my God, Jessel. Well, I mean, they are similar names. When I walked into Aaron and Daisy's room, there was like really weird vibes.

5:01I'm not really sure what's going on in there.

5:03Ben Mandelker: Yeah, because when Erica went in to tell them, she's like, Aaron just goes, uh-huh. Because Aaron's mad at her because, you know, Erica was part of the insurance fraud joking. She's like, uh-huh. And then Daisy was like, mm-hmm. So she's like, yeah, I don't know what's going on down there, but I'm glad you guys are more fun about it. And then we go to Aaron and Daisy's room and they're whispering. They're sitting outside. And even though I can't stand Aaron, I do love this kind of whisper moment. Because Aaron's like, I'm not even impressed by this. Like not even this much. Am I missing something?

5:41Ben Mandelker: And Daisy goes, Martha would think this is a dump. Which, by the way, I don't think this place is a dump, but I did love like, I've definitely had those moments before when I've been with someone. I've been like, this place sucks, right? Like, can we say that this place sucks? So I did like that. Yeah, but it's just people being snotty. I mean, I get why Erin's doing it because she heard this stuff, you know, about, you know, basic lady. But Daisy, it's just gross. I agree. Because you work for a rich person does not make you a rich person. And I know that she's aware of that, you know, like, wow, I'm rich.

6:23So now I think I'm rich, but I'm not really rich. It's like, I don't know. There's like a certain earned snobbery that you really haven't earned.

6:31Ben Mandelker: I 100 % agree. I'm not saying I think that they're right. I just liked the vibe of the scene because I feel like I've had moments like that before with someone where you're at like some party that doesn't have the food. and you sort of on the side you're like this party sucks right like i so i i enjoyed i enjoyed what the scene was representing but i also felt like daisy i was like daisy come on now like you're on a you're on a beautiful island in a in a nice mansion it may not be like a designer mansion but it's still really really nice like you're just being you guys are just being you're catty like you said but you know like just because you have popcorn ceilings doesn't that you can't be catty about someone else's mansion, I guess.

7:20And Erin's like, yeah, I thought I was going to her own island. That's just like a house on an island. I'm really surprised. This is not that great. And we just saw the storyline on Real Housewives of London, where Australian Juliet is like, oh, you're gonna come to my castle? It's gonna be fantastic, girls. We're all gonna hang out in my castle. And then they get there and they're like, um you don't even own this castle why is she pretending this is her castle this is owned by

7:50Ben Mandelker: like lots of people yeah it's it is so funny how judgy they are about like these distinctions i mean maybe at the heart of it is this idea that like you're pretending like you have something more than you do or you're claiming something you're trying to pull one over us and you're not being authentic like that's the biggest crime you could commit on this show and so that's what they're reacting to but whether they own the island or they have a parcel on this private island it's still significantly better than really every party that aaron has ever thrown including her anniversary party with a had no food including the time at her house when she only served caviar and nothing after like a long drive and here they are on like a full-on beautiful caribbean island in a mansion with an entire staff waiting on them and she's like, it's honestly not that good.

8:44Like, okay. Aaron's engagement party that you brought up was also sponsored by like 20 different people. Remember? It was all advertisements everywhere.

8:54Ben Mandelker: I firmly believe that just because something is big and has the label of luxury does not mean it can't be crappy. For sure, you could be in a mansion on an island and the mansion is crappy. But I just don't think that's the case here. Well, Erica did say, like, we have our own island. Like, we have our own private island. So she was kind of full of shit when she first came up with it. But I don't know. It's just Erin. So she's never going to win with me. So Daisy's like, they don't know how to decorate. They don't have any style. Daisy, we just saw your house. I mean, is it in my mind, were there Barker loungers in that house?

9:35because there would be like you you do not have a stylish house either although i do tip my hat to the rent controlled or whatever you had i think that's great but you're not really in any place

9:46Ben Mandelker: you have you have a mckenzie child's kettle first thing we saw in this season was your mckenzie child's kettle that martha you actually martha saw it and was like get rid of that and you still kept it okay because that kettle is not rent controlled so you can get rid of it so yeah because daisy can't make up her mind like is she just the girl like with not with no money but she's still really cool and she doesn't give a fuck like i've got popcorn ceilings and store bought pie that's like kind of her thing but now she's really being snobby i don't know you can't have it both ways so then down by the pool uh jessel and erica are talking and uh jessel's like well daisy you know you're worried about erin but oh no she's like daisy uh actually you should be worried about her because i think that erin has her claws into her yeah and arca's like yeah that's why i think it was weird i just have never seen her act like that towards me before and we should also mention that um daisy and erin were also complaining about the fact that they didn't fly private down to this island like whoa you're supposed to be so wealthy and have a private island but we didn't even fly private so then uh carol comes out for dinner and she's got her jeans but they're rolled up you know because of the pool and she still has her tube socks on she's like hi and jess is like oh look it's carrie

11:06sorry her name's very common i do love her though

11:13Ben Mandelker: oh that's so perfect it's so common i love her though um so carol is meanwhile has a very different take on um aaron and daisy's on the house than daisy and aaron and she's like oh wow this place is really amazing i've been to a lot of places like i went to a bar in the lower east side where we played ping pong and just you leave the balls anywhere and that was pretty cool but wow this really beats it so date back to daisy and aaron talking and they're both talking like this but there's no one else around and aaron's like i'm just not in the moon for this i mean like don't fuck with me jessel if she fucking continues like i will release the shit i know and like we know everyone and i don't even say how the shit i know oh god erin just do it i know this is so erin yeah how bad is it i'm so sure it's terrible like she borrowed her shoes from somebody one time go ahead bring on your worst three years i've known this but i would never do that.

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14:47Ben Mandelker: That's A-N-G-I.com. Cy and Haley come down and they go to the bar and they get some drinks and then Aaron and Daisy head up to dinner and Daisy's like, so what are you going to do? What are you going to do with Jessel? And Aaron's like, I don't know what I want to do. So I need a minute before I decide whether or not I'll destroy her family. Because she joked about a flood maybe being insurance fraud. I'm going to break down her family. Right. I mean, I'm here calling Jaisal thirsty, spitting out facts, but she's calling me a criminal. Like, fuck you. Fuck you. So, yeah. Good. Sorry. No, like I said, like you said before, you literally just accused someone of breaking up a family with eight children.

15:31Ben Mandelker: So, you know. Yeah. So outside, everybody gathers. Daisy and Aaron aren't there yet. So, of course, they're talking about them. And Jessel's like, well, Erica said she got weird vibes from them. She's like, but are they mad? What's happening? Was it the drones? Erica's like, I don't know if they're mad or sad. I don't know what's happening. They're just like old people. You know, it's weird. And Jessel's like, Aaron's always like that. I mean, what is she upset about now? And Cy's like, well, my business is all over the tabloids. I don't want to hear about anybody that's mad or sad, especially Daisy and Aaron, a bunch of bitches.

16:09Ben Mandelker: I just know I'm just trying to have a good time. I don't care. Which I kind of like this from Cy because she's like, I don't care what offends you. I'm the one who literally got blindsided with a divorce yesterday. I will trump you all. Don't take this from me. This is my moment. Yeah. Sorry. But who would you rather watch? Aaron and Jessel fighting over insurance fraud claims or Cy talking about how she's blindsided. Well, it's not fair because you added Jessel in there. So that lifts up the Aaron part. But if it was just Aaron, I would go for Cy.

16:49So Daisy's like, are there any windshields that come with your island? Because it's pretty windy.

16:58Ben Mandelker: Good one, Daisy. she's like yeah i'm gonna go up in flames about a minute from the fire so they sit down and it's awkward they're in the pool and by the way it's just like they're in that are they in the pool yet or are they just sitting down for cocktails now i i'm i forget but yeah now they go to that they're like having cocktails but now they go into the pool now they go to the pool and now there's like it's like size dress falls into the water because they have to like gather their dresses and put it on their lap and then like people's fabric is already falling down the house manager comes out and gives them like shawls or something you know because it might be cold which is another reason why you shouldn't be in the pool if it's cold enough that you need something to wrap around you you should not be in the pool and then those things are falling in the water the edges of it i'm just i hate all of it carol's still going around with his staff do you guys have any silk pillowcases i'll just run right down to the home goods and camp really we're on a private island No.

17:51I'm getting a soap polo case. I'm constantly shocked by how these women are dressing. You don't wear a gown when you're having dinner in a pool. I've had a lifetime of wearing gowns and I'm not going to wear a gown in a pool.

18:11So they're making small talk and Haley's really obnoxious to room with. So I was trying to take a nap and Haley wouldn't shut up. So she's like, shut the fuck up, Haley. Now they get some tapas. And Jessel's like, so do they make everything in the kitchen here? And Erica's like, no, you order it like a week in advance. And then boom, it's all there. It's crazy.

18:33Ben Mandelker: Daisy's like, wait, so I'm confused. Is this your island or is this somebody else's island? And Erica's like, well, there's seven families who own the island. And so we all have estates on the island. And Daisy's like, oh, so they say like it's our island. She's like, yeah. It's like, oh, so if you have an estate, it's considered like, I don't know. I don't think I understand. Like, how does this work? If you live on the island, you can say it's your island. What is there? Do they have popcorn ceilings on this island? Is that allowed? Well, we all pay for the island. So, Mike, you know, we all have to share like we share the beach and we share tennis courts and we like pay for the HOAs of the island.

19:14You know, it's like like we pay for the development of the island. It's like a lot of people who own the island.

19:19Ben Mandelker: I mean I think that's fair I think if there's like seven houses on an island and you all are paying for the upkeep of the island together I think you can say it's your island I'm okay with that but popcorn ceilings over there is like gross really and Hayley's like what does it matter whose island it is it's like the most ludicrous question who cares I think it was Tupac who once said Why are you worrying about the shishka bibble When you're on an island? Isn't that enough? Daisy's like, I'm not trying to be a bitch I'm just trying to get clarity I mean, she kept saying it's our island She didn't mention it was our island Plus eight other families Which immediately makes the house a garbage dump It's like, you might as well be in a shoebox Now that you know that you share Some space several, several, several Acres away with someone else I mean, you might as well just be living in a, I don't know, some trash can off the lady begging for Martha Stewart's FIFA scraps.

20:29Is it FIFA or FIFA? I was pronouncing it wrong last time.

20:33Ben Mandelker: I say FIFA. I'm pronouncing anything correctly. FIFA, Cedar, Seder, Cider, FIFA, FIFA. You're just using, this is your art. You're just expressing yourself. You're just rethinking what it means to pronounce things. what is language so daisy's like so is there more of like a majority holder and erica's like no then aaron's like bon richard branson owns this island right richard branson huh and she's like well no he's one of he owns necker which is another island and she's like he owns like a piece of this one but like that there's like families and like she's like i don't know Erica's vibe is like, what are you guys trying to get to?

21:14Also, Erin just Googled that, which she's like, Google, she Googled me like that's just me. Yeah. And Daisy's like, well, we're just trying to figure it out. Like, whose island is this really?

21:30Ben Mandelker: That's the mystery. And so Jesse's like, I'm. Seven families own this island. None of them are you. you hanger on okay seriously just was like i'm sorry but like let's not get granular on who owns what on the island because you don't even have an island which is a it's a great argument to make you don't have an island you can't argue about this sorry so erica's like well i have a house on this island i mean i don't even know what you're questioning i mean have you you know do you want to look at the deed do you want to look at the deed okay here's how you know i own the island i've petitioned together to talk about on the island yes so then size like well is there anyone single on the island maybe there's someone single and jess is like richard branson is which and they're all laughing but i'm like wasn't it highly publicized that like richard branson's wife of like 70 years died last year like richard branson's single and it's just funny that like amidst all the like don't talk about carol but sit this way don't it's this is a tragedy and you're being lighthearted i'm like this man's wife just died like literally last year i'll double check it right now everyone don't you worry i'm on top of it like score carol that's all you carol uh yeah carol you and carol can duke it out right and then we see a clip of carol being like well i hope i can find a single person here to come richard branson where are you they like by the way so joan templeman was her name love that name uh she died in november 2025 which meant it was probably like two to three months prior to filming this and richard branson met her in 1976 or something which meant that they were together for like basically 50 years Well, it's not dramatic because Ryan Murphy hasn't made a show about it yet.

23:31Ben Mandelker: Not yet. Not yet. Listen, I'm not trying to be like, guys, let's protect Richard Branson's emotions. I don't give a shit about Richard Branson. I just think it was funny in the context of this that like, be nice and don't say bad things about Carolyn Bissette. But then they all are like cackling hags about Richard Branson, who literally is only like eight weeks out from, you know, losing his wife. Yeah. So Carol's like, well, you can have him, Jessel. He's too old for me. However, I did get asked out by three guys who were auditioning to play Richard Branson when he was 19.

24:18Yeah, just one of the perks about being a cool Gen Zer. I almost made it onto Love Island.

24:27Ben Mandelker: So Jessel asks Si how she's... Sock Island. Another bombshell enters the villa on handlebars of a bicycle. Si's very open about sharing her life and to some degree her kids, But I think that, you know, she's worked to keep her public relationship or her relationship out of the public eye. And I just can't imagine what she's going through. And so I was like, yeah, I'm not doing well. I'm not doing well. I imagine everybody's seen every news outlet in the world talking about me. Well, I mean, it definitely made the news. But, like, I mean, let's – this isn't like Heidi Klumann Seal. I don't know why that's the reference.

25:12Well, one of the things that Real Housewives Ultimate Girls trip taught us is how famous these people are in their own minds. I mean, to us, they're very famous. You know, these are our sports stars. Like, to us, they're very famous. But to hear them talking about it, it's like, I don't know if you're that famous. You know, when Vicky's like, 1.6 billion people. 1.6 billion. Hold on a second, guys. Sam Donaldson's on the phone. He wants to do an exclusive with me. It's all over the press. Sorry, guys. Gotta go. Please, I'm trying to have a private dinner with my friends. Please stop taking my picture.

25:50Ma 'am, I was just bringing you a local drink that we invented on this island called a screwdriver. Oh, my God. Look at that.

26:00Ben Mandelker: ABC News filming me from the skies once again. I'm not interested, Diane Sawyer. We actually figured out that... It's a ground bird. It's a seagull bird. Don't trust them. It's Cindy Adams riding on the back of a pigeon. It's John Chancellor. He has something to say about you. So I talked about how devastating it is to have her life splattered all over the papers. And she tells everybody that he took the kids for spring break. And then the next morning he filed and she was all alone. and it crushed every feeling she's ever had for David. And then she has a really long monologue about it. Yes. I'm past four or three.

26:53Ben Mandelker: I know. I'm like trying to – I'm looking at it right now, trying to cherry pick anything that was interesting. She says it's hard when you have a teenage daughter and it's like the daughter will ask questions and then she has the daughter's friends follow her on Instagram. So the mothers and everyone – You know, when you're an influencer and all these people follow you, like, what do you do? And you try to keep it private, but you can't keep it private and yada, yada, yada. And about the yada, yada, yada is not dismissive of anything she's saying. I think actually everything she's saying was it's it was real concerns.

27:23Ben Mandelker: And I felt for her. I'm just saying yada, yada, yada, because like, I feel like it's not interesting to actually regurgitate right now. Yeah. So then Haley's like, well, let's hope he doesn't go after you for the alimony. Oh, my God. If I were a congresswoman, men would not be eligible for alimony unless they could show they're taking care of the home and child rearing 100%. Yeah. So then Daisy is like, well, I have a lot of women. I have to say a lot of my women friends make more money than their husbands do. Like, Erica, maybe not you, right? Because, like, you're a fitness instructor at Equinox and your husband has a fake private island.

28:08Ben Mandelker: But, you know, other women. Yeah, I know. I get it. So, Ankur makes more money than me. Ooh. I mean, look, like, obviously I didn't, you know, buy this private island by myself. So, I just want to clarify. I don't think you're not, like, your own business person. And I know you have your hustle. You know, you like work out and stuff and you make other people work out. So that, I guess, counts as hustle in New York City. But so, you know, I don't want to make you feel bad by pointing out once again that your husband is way more successful and you're basically a catwoman. I don't want to make you feel bad, just to reiterate that.

28:42So he's like, no, like I love it. Like he's a provider for our family. Like we're partners in business and life, like building a family. I'm rich. I'm a billionaire. Am I supposed to feel bad right now? and erin says funny that erin that there daisy's coming in on her like oh wow look at you not working i'm a billionaire what part of being a billionaire do you not understand i know like

29:07Ben Mandelker: let's like wow you really contributed a lot to this private island that's not even a private island i'm like do you want a dinger for not having as much money as she says or do you want a dinger for not bringing as much money as her husband because her husband brings in so much money like which way do you want which way do you want to go yeah it's weird and erin's like yeah well that's how i feel too i'm partners with my husband too and daisy says well i'm popcorn partners and erica goes what does popcorn partners mean first of all she meant i think she meant like um i eat popcorn while he does the work or something like that i i think she made a gesture i i can't i can't remember i watch it like you know i watched it more than six hours ago which means that 70 % of it has already left my memory.

29:51Popcorn! I ate popcorn last week in the confessional while people were arguing. It was iconic. Blah!

30:03Ben Mandelker: So Erica is like, oh, what kind of popcorn? From the ceiling? I'm dead. I'm dead. I am dead with my own joke. Oh my god. And Daisy's like, not happy. She's like, yeah, I wasn't expecting that from, I was expecting that joke from Jessel, but not from you. um it was a very simple joke the fight last week was about popcorn ceilings and then this week she heard popcorn and said popcorn ceilings i mean how humorless are we come on guys so how humorless are we we have aaron on this cast so the answer is very and here she comes she goes you guys she was actually really she was like offended she was really offended she was like really offended about the popcorn ceilings.

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33:56It's Sheen. And they just start laughing. She's like, my whole storyline is that I'm basic and that I shop on Amazon. Like, why would that offend me?

34:07Ben Mandelker: Yeah. But then Jessel is offended. And she's like, chin. And so Jessel's like, I would be offended if someone with fashion taste was schooling me. And I have an idea for you, Daisy. Why don't you just stick to your face painting and leave the fashions to me? I was like, oh, that was harsh. not the face painting erica's like okay well i feel like you guys both felt hurt and okay i guess that's not somewhere to joke about but like um and days wait what she's just sort of saying things that she thinks is will like mollify the situation she's like i don't know what i have to say but i'll just put some generic like oh sorry you know and erin's like erica you'll joke but you'll laugh and joke about other things that are not places to joke right and erica's like i'm not following yeah i'm like what i'm saying like this is really witty so just try and follow me like you'll laugh about other things right erica and she's like um yeah i'm like racking my brain trying to figure out how i pissed erin off and i like i i don't know i mean because i can think of are gorditas because it was jessel who made the comment and then erica kind of just like yes answered it and like laughed like so she barely even said the thing and it was such a minor quick thing that she doesn't even remember and so she's like what did i do and everyone's like think about it think about think think about it think about it think yeah think about it erica think about it one man pansy scheme houdini wants you to think about it erin why don't you think about taking off that hat with the giant flower on it hashtag blossom so then hayley's like guys uh i don't want to break up the shishka bibble but is it raining but everyone's ignoring her and erin's like think about it really jessel do not do not she's like guys i think it's gonna rain soon i think i'm feeling some rain but the things that i heard you guys were saying about me are like the meanest things i've ever heard as long as the meanest guys it's raining it's raining guys it's right does everyone believe me?

36:35Ben Mandelker: It's raining. And Aaron is like, you know what you said? The things he said are despicable, and I don't want to go there tonight, even though I'm sort of going there tonight, but I don't want to go there tonight. And Jaisal's like, but what? Me and Erika, what did we do? So now the rain just pours. I mean, it just pours down on their head. And I love this for Aaron, because Aaron's just like, I'm going to have a huge storyline fight right now. It's going to make the season and it just rains on everybody's head and they have to god god's just like let's power wash this situation away he's like uh yeah it's one of those situations where you know people always say things like oh god you know when they say god please and they're like god's not watching housewives yes he is yeah got you tonight yes she is yes yes god god took out god's hose i was like go inside God's like how many chances do I need to give you this is the like third reboot God's also like I did not I did not invent pools for you people to put a table in them go inside and Daisy's like don't get your sheen dress dirty let's go sheen bitches and Jaisal says my dress is expensive it's not sheen it's fucking two thousand dollars So they go inside, and then Carol, she falls off this path into the plants, and you know that somewhere Luann was furious.

38:09Ben Mandelker: Oh, really? You're going to do the falling in the bushes thing? Really? The indignities just keep on going with this woman. First, you steal my chef while he was only 17 years old, and then you steal the bushes. Not cool, that rides well. Not cool. so inside carol hayley and aaron are playing pool and size like i'm going to bed and uh jessel daisy and eric are chatting and they're still fighting about the dress thing and daisy says you came from my apartment i'm gonna come for your clothes it's the same thing i can be self-deprecating but i or self-deprecating what did she say i think she said something like self-depreting or something she's like i can be self-depleting or something but you can't talk about it like if you could be self-deprecating like oh my husband's a dick but i'm never going to call your husband a dick and erica's like i don't think that's self-deprecating because that's talking about your husband self-deprecating is about yourself daisy's like i know the definition of self-deprecating i'm not going to go like be like oh my god look at look at this like really whack furniture who decorated this joint pier one and erica's like well i don't know if daisy has the sense of entitlement because she has leeched off the benefits of Martha.

39:28Ben Mandelker: But I actually like Pierwan, and I'm really sad they went out of business. Yeah. Also, Daisy should be careful because we learned last week that Martha actually gets her FIFA ticket from Erica's husband. So this guy's really rich and connects Martha with a lot of things, and he's not going to like Martha's worker bee coming for his wife. I feel like Daisy's time with Martha is very numbered because if this show does well, Daisy's going to have actual obligations to Bravo and to the fandom and just being a reality star that are going to get in the way of Martha. And I, I think, I don't think it's going to last.

40:07Ben Mandelker: I don't think she can. I think if you're going to be the makeup person for Martha, you are working for Martha and you, and, and like, there's, I think there's only a certain a number of weeks left. Yeah, she said it last week when Martha was on. She's like, I don't like this. You're coming in the way. You're getting in the way of my life. I don't like this. You're having things to do. So Daisy is saying, well, that's not my style. Just was like, well, clearly you went and told Aaron everything we discussed at your apartment that day. She's like, well, I told her what we were talking about, the problems she was having.

40:39And then we talked about her house. And you said you think it was a scammer, like an insurance thing. I did say that. And Aaron's like, um, not, don't even, Jocelyn. Like, if this is being fucking talked about, don't even. You're despicable. It's like the worst thing that's ever happened to me. Every time anybody says anything about Aaron, it's always the worst thing that's ever been said to Aaron, ever.

41:05Ben Mandelker: Exactly. Like, I do believe that that flood, first of all, I don't think that flood was for insurance. I think it fucking sucks. I 100 % think it's like, I mean, you know, we laugh about how she sort of compared it to Katrina, which felt tone deaf. But like, it still sucks. She still lost her stuff. But yeah, Aaron's going to take it and run with it. And so Jessel is like, I mean, all three of us were discussing it. And Aaron's like, no, no, no, no. Hold on, hold on, hold on. She's like, yeah, no, I'm sorry. I'm not taking full responsibility for this. And Aaron's like, well, then who then? I want to hear from you two.

41:38Ben Mandelker: And she's like, why two? Why you two? Because that's what I just heard from her tonight Because the two of you were talking about something really mean And she's like, oh, so Daisy left herself out of it? And then Aaron's like, wait a minute Daisy, you said you defended me She's like, no, no, no, no I didn't say that, I never said that She's like, wait, what? Okay, what happened? Wait, everybody hates me now? Like, did Daisy say the worst thing that's ever happened? Daisy's like, wait a minute. Hold up. I don't fuck around. I don't say that. I never said I defended you. I never, which I think is so funny because like these shows are all about like, why didn't you have my back?

42:17Ben Mandelker: It's like, I did have your back. I was, did you not see how much I had your back? But here she's like, they were talking so much shit about you. And excuse me, I was not defending you. How dare you accuse me of defending you? Well, Daisy was saying that the house was flooded. yeah and erica says yeah and then someone said something about i don't know um like it's a scam maybe something like that that is fucking disgusting there's like uh jessel says i didn't say it was a scam i said it was an insurance thing it's different it's like a thing when you defraud an insurance company by acting like something terrible happened but you planned it So it's not a scam.

42:59Ben Mandelker: It's just a very large-scale fraud. Yeah, well, maybe you don't understand because you don't own a house. But, like, owning a house is not happening. Like, you lose your pictures. And, like, I lost my memories. And it's painful that you say it flippantly. Do you understand? Jessel's still doing that no-scrunch, top-tooth look. Like, all right. So, yeah, she's like, I worked my ass off, okay? And so Jess was like, let's be clear. I didn't say scam. I said it's an insurance thing. So first of all, Daisy, why are you talking about everything that happened to Erin when we're not there? Because, like, clearly you said a lot more than that.

43:39Ben Mandelker: And everyone's like, oh, really? Oh, really? And Daisy's like, what? No, no, no. And then we see a flashback to the full scene. Yes. And they're all talking shit, of course, as we saw. And Daisy's like, I mean, what? She's talking about money, but then she bought all these new Chanel shoes. I mean, what? Yes, the Chanel shoes are going back because there's a lot of debt there. There's a lot of debt. Oh, my God. And you heard that Hampton's house flooded, right? Was it an insurance thing? Daisy says, like when somebody sets their restaurant on fire and goes, whoops. Okay, now you're coming for Lisa Vanderpump?

44:18Ben Mandelker: Jeez, you guys are ruthless this season. um so daisy's like wait a minute okay this is actually gaslighting it's like no it's not we did have this conversation oh i'm sorry erica's like no we did have this conversation it's like this is gaslighting it's gaslighting which by the way there's nothing gaslighting you're what's nothing even remotely no it's not gaslighting you're lying you're misrepresenting things trying to get erin mad at these people and not taking responsibility that you were also talking shit. You're just straight up lying. So Daisy's like, but we had that conversation. And Erica says, well, if you listen, if you want to go say something about us, you know, if you're going to say something about us and you're going to talk shit, then we're going to say that you were talking shit when you were saying things about us.

45:05Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And Daisy's like, but there's no lie. I'm very honest. It's like, sorry, babe, but we were all involved in that conversation. And Daisy's like, well, that's, you know, that's why I wanted to tell her that. But she said you were defending me and you weren't, babe. You weren't defending her. But first of all, I don't defend anybody, okay? That's me, Daisy. I wanted to be known in this friend group, I will not defend my friends. Does everyone get that? I was like, oh, Daisy. Daisy's trying to orchestrate this thing against everybody else to get everyone in trouble. And now Daisy just looks like the biggest asshole here.

45:39Loved it.

45:40Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Yeah. so erica is like she's like i mean what you said to her erin erin gets up and erica's like you know what you said to her was obviously something different than what you're saying now it's like no there was no lie and erin's like you know what jessel i have not been doing anything to you for four years i apologize to you for talking shit and i own it i'm like you then talk shit right away right after that yeah she's like no you didn't own it you just you actually you said i do think you're thirsty and i do think you're this and i do think you're this and da da da da da well i do and you're gonna talk shit about me losing my house so she storms off and jess was like oh despicable it's like go buy some machine oh god it wasn't even good when daisy originally said it and now you're just gonna repeat it aaron is so sad oh god and i like that jess was like that's what you're wearing with your fucking printed whatever.

46:40Ben Mandelker: And she goes, And that's where it ends. Oh, geez. So silly. Silly times. Do you think it's still on a streak? Yeah, I thought the episode was hilarious. I laughed the entire way. I was very happy. What do you think? I mean, I think it's pretty fun. I enjoyed it. I was a little worried at first because the first scene was It's like Psy, who I just don't find compelling. I'm sorry. I just don't. I don't. It's not whether what she's going through is sad, whether it's sad or not sad. It's not even that. I just don't find her compelling as a character to watch. And then it went to Erica. And I was like, oh, no, Erica is so basic, too.

47:23She can't carry this with her like, oh, my God, I love Taco Bell. So I was worried. Like the first 15 minutes of the episode, I thought, oh, no. But then it got really funny. And I have to say, Aaron is contributing a lot to it being funny just by being so annoying. Yes. Yeah, totally. But people finally telling her how annoying she is. So overall, I'm enjoying it. I would give it an 80%.

47:50Ben Mandelker: Okay. I mean, it's way better than last year. That's for sure. That is true. Yeah. You know, sometimes we're just happy for anything, anything that's decent and watchable after last season. So everyone, thank you so much for being here Don't forget to go get your tickets for our live show Also, speaking of Erica and Amazon We are doing our Amazon Live this week on Thursday Tomorrow on Thursday So come join us for that That's going to be at 1.30 But then also, I'm sorry, interrupting you as usual You're right, it's 1.30 Pacific time But also, we are switching after this week to Wednesdays We'll be doing it on Wednesdays Yeah So join us for that And we will catch you on the next episode of Watch What Crappens.

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